BrainCells

Hi, for "Sandopolis" I do play with a 7 string guitar, I think the tune was B. For "Eggman" it was a 6 string guitar and i don't remember for sure if the tune was D or D#.

Listening to this song today made me want to listen to the whole Carcass discography (and yeah, I did it) kudos

I think that what we're discussing here is far different than "wanting to have ALL rights ALL the time". If you analize the section of the policy draft that talks about removal requests you'll see that it's pretty much the opposite, since OCR gives you zero control about it, It's like it said "If you want your song removed for whatever the reason you "think" is fair, it's up to us to decide, there's nothing you can do about it. Never. Forever." Besides it's absolutely clear that DJ Pretzel can't see a fair reason to accept the removal request, so it's probably never gonna happen. Did you understand when I said ZERO control? It's far different than wanting to have it all, even because that is not what I want. All I want is, since it's open for discussion, a fair policy that gives both sides at least one option to change things, cause the way it is , about this particular section, it's given the artist zero option if needed. It's important to find balance between both sides and this is the point where I think the weight goes all over one side.

Sorry to disagree, but that's like "he kills, so I'll kill too" attitude for me. That alone doesn't justify the situation, and is just another prove that something awful from this culture is entering through wide open doors in this comunity.

Actually what concerns me is not who listens to my song, but where my image is attached to. You see, when an artist signs a contract with a record label and produces an album, that piece of art will be available forever, but since it s in a distinctive type of media, most of all CD's and DVD's these days, it's not something that can be changed suddenly in it's content. I pretty much doubt that the record label can change, for example, Metallica's Black Album cover to a plain white image, or even change the songs order or anythig else you can imagine, since it's surely stated in contract that they can't. Even so they cease the contract in a distant future, what happens often, they are sure that who holds the rights of the material in question will not change it drastically, and, in most of the cases, the artist still have the option to make a deal and buy its own rights. That, for such a dynamic media as a website, is impossible to control. I really don't know tomorrow which path OCR is going to choose and it really bothers me that today I must give my "OK forever" for something I really don't know how is going to be in 10 years. Let's imagine DJ Pretzel dies (and I hope not, of course) and a relative of him takes the control of the site, changing its philosophy to something completely different, or let's imagine that due to some reason unknown he decides to sell OCR for some company or a third person. Things like this can happen and i'm not sure that in 2026 this will be an environment where i will want my image attached to. You see, I have these days asked myself about this policy, and if I would bother about that if it was already like this when i joined OCR, and probably it would make no difference for me, i'd go and submit a song the same way. About your question, yes, that really would sound better if some distinct reasons were stated in the policy for removal of songs, instead of the open way it is right now. I totally agree with the reasons why you are going through this policy and I even thik it is totally necessary. I just don't see where taking away the right of the user to remove his own piece via request clashes with the needs you state as necessary for the policy at all. A doubt I still have: How often does that happen that a user asks his songs out that can drastically affect the site in a negative way? For the cases of some people just angry about some bullshit in the forums or because a new song got rejected, why not to include a clause in the policy, saying that all removal requests will be effective in 90 days from the day of request, and a confirmation will be needed after this period. this way it would avoid from deleting songs from people who just were angry in the heat of a moment... I'm saying all this because, as a member, I was invited to be here. All I'm putting here are just my sincere opinions to make this policy as fair as it can be for both sides. However, I can say that the way the policy is right now, with the changes that DJ Pretzel said possible to me, would really be ok. I really think that all the future plans for OCR, like distributing songs in physical media and all the kind of advestising possible is VERY positive and of course I love the ideas. I don't think the way the new policy works would be impeditive for me to submit new songs on the site, however, what I suggest here i think is fair and in no way could bring any kind of prejudice to OCR and its contributors.

Well here's my opinion. I really like this place. I was welcome here since day 1 by Larry, and Djp made me really feel at home with his well structured and intelligent reviews about my arrangements. The whole community philosophy is ok for me, though I must say that for a musical growth I chose to be more active at VGMix.com. Everyone I met here are great people and I'm really thankful for being part of this community. I really consider DJP and all the judges around people of good will. However, the music I work in, be it original work or arrangement, is a part of who I am. It says so much more than how I play or produce. It tells how I was feeling on that moment and so much more of my own philosophy and personality, and I'm pretty sure that what I'm saying must make sense for every single person on this planet who created a piece of art in life. Because of that, it seems very important to me to have some control about how my music is distributed, and I'm not talking about profit at all. Untill last weeek, I could say that I was 100% ok with OCR's rules. Today, not anymore. This alone proves my point that things change, I can change and so the site's policy or philosophy can change into something I cannot make part anymore in the future, and I'm not telling it could change to something worse, just something I don't agree with, something that I don't want to be part of anymore. I saw in the past OCR going through all the songs already posted to see if some should be deleted. It's OCR telling us that what they did in the past may not be the best situation for the present. Let me say, as a musician, that I can't affirm what I did yesterday is my choice for the rest of my life. Also, I think it's very unfair that the site retains the right to delete your song at any time, but the reverse way doesn't work the same. I wish I can be part of all of this forever, but I can't set it in stone. Because of that, I reserve my right to choose the destiny of my music and that's all. That's where I disagree.

Well, I agree a policy is needed and honestly the terms here are not as hard as we're used to see around. I agree with most of it and I even understand your points about removal requests, how much work is involved and all that. However, after reading most of this thread, it sounds to me like "we're not taking your songs out no matter the reason" and it's not ok for me, since it's obvious that IF I someday have a reason to ask my songs to be removed, it will not be taken in consideration. My questions are: Will this policy work for previously released material? If I don't agree with the new policy, would this be the right time for me to ask my songs to be removed? Edit: I'm not saying I'm gonna do that...

I did it!! just a bit of pitch shifter but it's actually me laughing, hahahahahaha!

Any room for a keyboardist? two keyboardists? we can launch a Rick Wakeman tribute band

hahaha, you took so long to talk about that!!!! the kick is perfect, man, Rick Rubin couldn't have mixed it better. The drums are pretty much kicking ass all around and brought a new feeling to the song, it's like 10x heavier than before... Now move your ass to Brazil so we can begin the ultimate metal band. and bring Dennis with you

I just have to say this teaser is amazing and very sexy too!!!! And I have some italian blood, so hooray!!!!!!!!! also, my team lost a lot to france, so hooray again!!!!

Well, I was really willing to do another song for the project when SnappleMan asked if I could. We talked about it and decided I'd PM kfc to confirm with him which track to do. So, a few days ago I PM'd him to confirm, asking him to reply me before thursday so I could have some free time to arrange and record the song, but I got no response, so i'm here to say I will not be able to record the track anymore. Unfortunately I will have very little free time to invest on the song in the near future and the last free day I'll have is 06/15, but I didn't receive kfc's confirmation. I must confess I was not too much excited about talking to kcf these days because I don't agree too much about the way he's dealing with people on this project, including myself. Clearly it comes from both sides since he read my message but didn't reply.

Well Snap, tell me more details about what you need and I'll do it!

This is just awesome!!

Need some help? kfc - STFuck yoU

That's fine for me...

Yeah Hadyn, I understand your point, but one thing is waiting as long as it takes when you know some progress is going on behind it, the other thing is watching it stand still for so long with very little or even no progress on it. That (at least I think) is the state of the project on the last couple of months. And I believe there are so few things to be done here that the time lime seems kind of unproportional... Anyway, if I can help on anything, andreas and kfc know they can count on me, right?

although I have great expectations about all the tracks in this project (specially andreas'), I must confess i'm kind of saddened seeing it in a real procrastination state for so long...

Excellent work! Amazing! The beats are very strong, still there are some really smooth sound layers all over it and everything sounds really clear through. Not a very expansive arrangement though, if you consider that 90% of the music goes right from the main verse of the theme, and the ending is not the best it could be. Still you really got some style man, I loved the beats, definetly the one I liked more in the bunch...

please use my pic!!!

I have all the guitar tracks already recorded for akumajo's song and his basic tracks are all recorded too. Also, the mixing process is in a very advanced stage. Now I only have to get in touch with him (what I'm doing right now) so we can decide the best way to mix the track. Sorry if we're going to be a few days late, but it's almost out of the oven

Rexy, I've replied your PM on the Shizz the day after you pm'd me. And yeah, don't worry, I'm planning to get everything done in the weekend, the song is very close to done right now

You see, I had this dream... just kidding. I just caught him on vgmix one of these days and exchanged a couple of PMs with him...

I just talked to zyko yesterday, he said he'll send me the tracks for sandopolis so I can finish it, so you can expect it for the end of january for sure!

Being realistic or not is just a task of choice in my opinion. Still I think this arrangement is great and the sounds used fit very well. Awesome addition to the site library. Do caralho cara, parabéns!!!