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#1 BlueMeeple

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:34 AM

"Dies Irae" (Day of Wrath) is one of the oldest known european melodies (read more). It is used in many compositions: classical, pop, rock, movie soundtracks etc.

What about game music then? I started to make a list of VGM that include Dies Irae in form or other. All I remembered right away were these three:

HOMM3 - Necropolis (at 0:23)
HOMM5 - Title (at 0:18)
Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis - Room of the God Machine (at 0:03)

ADDED:
Sam&Max (Season 2) - Fugue And Dies Iræ (at 1:35)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors - Curse of the Tongue (at 0:00)
Final Fantasy IX - Ipsen's Castle (at 0:03)
Gauntlet Legend - The Battle Trenches (at ?:??)
Dante's Inferno - ????? (at 0:04)
Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes - ???? (at 15:58)
EverQuest II - Dies Irae (at 0:00)

Do you know more?
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:03 AM

That sounds a lot like the intro for the song used in Dr. Tongue's castle stages in Zombies Ate My Neighbors...


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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:59 AM

Haha, I remember talking about this at length in this ol' thread.

Gauntlet Legends has a pretty nice quote of that track. FFIX's Ipsen Castle quotes it as well, iirc.

Yeah, I'd like to find as many as these as possible, so keep them coming. :)!!
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:55 AM

Thanks for the replies! It's nice to know that others have also thought about this subject.

I had totally forgotten the FF9 one. Didn't know about Gauntlet Legends (could you find a better version with only the music somewhere? it's difficult to hear the theme in this link...) nor Zombies ate my Neighbours.

Let's keep the list coming!
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:00 AM

I'm sorry for the poor Gauntlet video - the one I previously used was taken down, for some reason, and I can't find anything better, right now.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:02 AM

Dies Irae was in the crossword puzzle at work today.

True story.

Now I can tell everyone what it means.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 01:51 PM

Hullo!

I made a YouTube-video about this topic. Maybe we can get more examples from there?

Please help share the video! :)
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

Sorry for the double post but...

YouTube says that my Dies Irae video is blocked in some countries (most likely because I inlcuded an excerpt from The Shining). Now I would like to know which countries are "some countries". I sure hope USA is not one of them...

So could you please check if you can view my video and then post the result and your country as a reply here? Thanks in advance!

BTW, I found a new dies irae piece as a video suggestion to my video, immediately after I uploaded it. :)
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:22 PM

Nah, I can see the video alright.

Personally, I'm glad to see more people interested in the oldest musical game that I can think of. Makin' more people aware of this is always fun.

Also, I'm glad you found another recording of the Battle Trenches - I seriously couldn't find anything.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:57 PM

Haha, I remember talking about this at length in this ol' thread (post #72, sorry after all this time I still don't know how to redirect to a specific post).


Clicking the number on the post will give you the link to that post.
You could also just add &postcount= then the number. Like http://ocremix.org/f...038&postcount=3
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:59 PM

Clicking the number on the post will give you the link to that post.
You could also just add &postcount= then the number. Like http://ocremix.org/f...038&postcount=3


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Posted 09 February 2012 - 09:47 PM

Works for me, Minnesota USA. Nice work!
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:01 PM

Thanks for your replies! I'm relieved my video isn't blocked in USA. I wonder in which countries it's blocked... Any ideas?

PS. Yay, another one! 8)
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 01:16 PM

Also, I'm glad you found another recording of the Battle Trenches - I seriously couldn't find anything.


Yeah I found a N64 gamerip in *.miniusf format and with track names (am I allowed to link to it here?). Like you said there are many tracks that inlcude "Dies Irae", modified or not:

01 Opening Theme & Altar of Skorne
05 Mountain Peak
07 Token Room (Minotaur & Sumner)
10 Mountain Dragon
14 Castle Treasury
27 Desecreated Temple & Ending Theme
29 Battle Towers
30 Battle Trenches
92 Unknown

You can also feel its influence (while not so clear nor strong) in many other tracks. Thanks Gario for drawing my attention to this, it's a great soundtrack. Maybe I try the game itself some day.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:17 PM

Bumbing an old thread with a new example:
EverQuest II - Dies Irae (at 0:00)

It's nice to see that my video is starting to bear fruit! :)
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:42 PM

I don't know if this counts or not, but there's a remix that has a pretty heavy 'Dies Irae' presence, as well. May or may not be relevant, but it's cool, regardless (gotta thank Dhsu for pointing that one out to be a few years back :P).
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

Dies Irae is used as Wolfgang Krauser's theme in the Fatal Fury/King of Fighters series.

Here are a few different versions:









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Posted 16 February 2012 - 01:24 PM

@Gario: That's a cool remix! It would work well as a BGM for a new game. Saved on hard drive.

@Retroman: That's actually a different Dies Irae compared to what I'm looking for (no shit sherlock!). Wolfgang Krauser's theme is Dies Irae from "Requiem Mass in D minor" composed by Wolfgang (!) Amadeus Mozart in 1791. Only transcribed to different video game console sound chips.

Requiem in D was one of Mozart's last works and it was left unfinished when he died. One of the biggest researched and argued subjects in classical music history has been (and is still) that to what extent is that piece composed by Mozart and which parts are compleated by other composers. But if I'm not completely mistaken Dies Irae is almost 100% Mozart.

The "Dies Irae" I'm looking for is the one composed in 13th century (maybe by Thomas of Celano) and which is used as a musical joke/game/easter egg by many other composers BUT it'd be fun to list usage of Mozart's Dies Irae in video games aswell.

These I could find with a quick search (beside Krauser's theme):

Still Life - Introduction
Command & Conquer: Red Alert - trailer

There are also many other Requiems (and therefore Dies Iraes) composed by other composers, for example Verdi, Dvořák, Bruckner, Stavinsky etc. etc... Dies Irae from Verdi's Requiem is one of my all time favourite pieces of music (that bass drum!) but is it used on video game sountracks? Someone on VGMdb.net forums said that "producers of Kingdom Hearts asked Yoko Shimomura to compose something similar for Destati". Well they do bear resemblance in one place:

Verdi
Shimomura
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

haha, zombies ate my neighbours was probably my first exposure to the dies irae.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:48 AM

Sorry for bumping my own old thread but maybe there's now new people around to find more examples (and spread my video) 8-)

ALSO: the dies irae by mozart (and verdi) seems also to be popular in vgm so I started to list them as well

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Mozart
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Fatal Fury - W.Krauser Theme (thanks RETROMAN for different versions)
-Fatal Fury 2 (Genesis)
-Fatal Fury 2 (???)
-The King of Fighters '96 (???)
-The King of Fighters '96 (???)
(are the more different ost versions of this one?)
Little King's Story - A King Defeated
(every piece of this OST seems to be a remix of a classical composition, neat!)
Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun - Dies Irae
(couldn't find a proper youtube video)
Still Life - Intro
Call of Duty 5: World At War - ???
(never played, at what kind of place of the game does this play?
Command & Conquer: Red Alert - Trailer

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Verdi
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Pandora's Tower - Catenae Fortunae (Dies Irae) Main Theme
(yet to be released outside japan)
Little King's Story - The World is Ending!
(yet a again a cool remix!)
Taiko Drum Master Wii - Requiem Dies Irae
(this seems too easy for this piece, but then again I've never played the game...)
Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun - VII Dies Irae
(also mozart dies irae seems to be on this "all classical music" soundtrack, I just couldn't find a proper youtube video for it!)
Harry Potter: Quidditch World Cup - Trailer

Did I miss anything?
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