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#1 djpretzel

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:03 AM

As highlighted in the writeup for http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02388/, we have revised our Submission Standards, effective immediately.

  • You can compare the Wiki versions to see exactly what changed.
  • We are still working on making the above changes to the translated versions of the standards.
  • We have added an information page on Encoding Guidance if you need help/advice on encoding your music.
  • We will be contacting artists in the future about getting improved encodings of mixes already on the site, especially for tracks that suffered in quality due to length in order to meet size restrictions.
  • Quick highlights:
  • 192kbps was previously the maximum bitrate; it is now the minimum, of two options.
  • In addition to 192kbps (CBR/ABR), the only other option is VBR1, which is higher quality.
  • We have eliminated the file size limit; we strongly recommend submissions between 2 and 7 minutes in length.

Let us know what you think, but do read the mixpost in addition to this announcement for the full description of this revision & our thought process behind it!

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:09 AM

Okay, so does that mean that you're accepting 320 CBR now?

Also do you that mean that v0 VBR is unacceptable?
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:13 AM

Okay, so does that mean that you're accepting 320 CBR now?

Also do you that mean that v0 VBR is unacceptable?


No, we're not accepting 320CBR, and correct, we're not accepting VBR0 either. The only two accepted encodings are 192kbs and VBR1.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:14 AM

Sweet, one step closer to lossless. It's coming any decade now :D

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:32 AM

Sweet, one step closer to lossless. It's coming any century now :D


Fixed. Maybe when $100 thumb drives are 5TB. :lol:

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:38 AM

I actually don't see it as a big deal to tell the truth. The default quality is... acceptable. If I want higher, I can usually find it on the artist's website. If not, I've never been turned down after asking the artist directly for an HQ version. Did that a couple times.

Heck, artists have given me their project files and samples every time I've asked XD

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 12:44 AM

YES! Where is CarboHydroM?! Post that EPIC 19-minute A Link to the Past Medley called Unsealed....NOW!!!

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 01:37 AM

Unsealed can be obtained on CarboHydroM's website in a OGG format So why would it need to be uploaded here?

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 01:42 AM

Unsealed can be obtained on CarboHydroM's website in a OGG format So why would it need to be uploaded here?


Quite a few of his songs can be obtained in OGG from his site.

Also, this nearly 12-minute long song was a BIIIIGG exception, as outlined in the mixpost djp linked right at the top. I don't think they'll even take a look at anything past 12 minutes. Which means Unsealed, Crystal Flash, and Grant Henry's Flesh Crystal are definitely out of the question.

And plus, just because something isn't posted on OCR doesn't make it any less awesome.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 01:43 AM

Quite a few of his songs can be obtained in OGG from his site.

Also, this nearly 12-minute long song was a BIIIIGG exception, as outlined in the mixpost djp linked right at the top. I don't think they'll even take a look at anything past 12 minutes. Which means Unsealed, Crystal Flash, and Grant Henry's Flesh Crystal are definitely out of the question.

And plus, just because something isn't posted on OCR doesn't make it any less awesome.


Why wouldn't we look at them?
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 02:06 AM

I thought Virt had issues with the site years and years ago, hence why vgmix was originally created,

Shame its still not around i would of liked to browse that site now :/

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 02:08 AM

Why wouldn't we look at them?


I was only saying that because the suggestion is 2-7 minutes, and those songs are 3-4 times that length.

They'd be looked at, but it's stretching the limit immensely.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 02:27 AM

Fixed. Maybe when $100 thumb drives are 5TB. :lol:


So, in less than 10 years then. :smile:

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 04:32 AM

Also, this nearly 12-minute long song was a BIIIIGG exception, as outlined in the mixpost djp linked right at the top. I don't think they'll even take a look at anything past 12 minutes. Which means Unsealed, Crystal Flash, and Grant Henry's Flesh Crystal are definitely out of the question.


You're not speaking for the staff. :lol:

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:21 AM

Maybe now I can add the original spoken word intro to In Mem'ry of Sir Anthony (A March Through The Plains) which helps explain why I named it that in the first place.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:17 PM

I thought Virt had issues with the site years and years ago, hence why vgmix was originally created


He did, but his two posts in 2010 showed that he was cool with sending stuff in if he felt desired to. :)

Anyway, let me throw a question in here - it's definitely taking effect for tracks to be submitted from this point on, but what about tracks that are pending to be posted? Is it possible for the mixers behind those tracks to send higher quality versions over, and if so, where would be the best place to do it?

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:23 AM

YES! Where is CarboHydroM?! Post that EPIC 19-minute A Link to the Past Medley called Unsealed....NOW!!!


Unsealed would likely be rejected on the grounds that it's a medley and not a cohesive track. OCR is stringent on that front. It's length wouldn't hold it back, on it's own, though.

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Also, this nearly 12-minute long song was a BIIIIGG exception, as outlined in the mixpost djp linked right at the top. I don't think they'll even take a look at anything past 12 minutes. Which means Unsealed, Crystal Flash, and Grant Henry's Flesh Crystal are definitely out of the question.


The reason DjP was questionable with tracks longer than 7 minutes is because long tracks have a very difficult time not sounding repetitive, not sounding like a medley AND sticking close enough to the source(s) to remain within the submission standards. If there is a song that's long, not repetitive, sounds like a cohesive, single entity (and not like multiple songs put together) AND the source is recognizable then given that it's production was up to par it would likely be passed.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:36 AM

Anyway, let me throw a question in here - it's definitely taking effect for tracks to be submitted from this point on, but what about tracks that are pending to be posted? Is it possible for the mixers behind those tracks to send higher quality versions over, and if so, where would be the best place to do it?


Larry. Send! WAVs/FLACs fine too for any and all mixes. There cannot be production changes, it has to be the exact same version as what's posted on OC ReMix if it's already posted. :-)

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:32 AM

The new standards were totally made in support of prog rock, right? Have you posted about it on TheShizz yet, Larry? Are you guys excited about receiving your first 30 minute prog rock piece or are you dreading that day? There's probably a fair deal of people who could make something like this: and sub it to OCR. >:]

Also just to add, maybe I am the only idiot who didn't care that much about his FILE quality, I always just bounced out a 192kbps mp3. I don't even know what VBR1 is...

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:51 PM

You're not speaking for the staff. :lol:


I wasn't trying to. 'Twas just how I interpreted the new standards, that's all. D:

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