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#1 HoboKa

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:12 PM

Found a good resource link to the classic versions of Fruity Loops and Garageband, etc

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

Finally, a legitimate program for making music. No more of this FL Studio 10 bullcrap.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:45 AM

Finally, a legitimate program for making music. No more of this FL Studio 10 bullcrap.


Only problem I'm finding is getting FL7 to recognize my regfiles - apparently my current regs are "out of date" despite that I have FL10 =/ god I wish I never made the switch.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:51 AM

7's a crutch. 1 has the best control over your sound.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

no need for it now, but i'll check back in a couple years for FL 10. cause i'm going to stick to that version. need the old ugly patterns.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:16 AM

Whats with all the FL10 hate? It added the one feature I had desperately desired for years. (A way to merge patterns together), better delay compensation, etc. I remember the days of 7, constantly having projects corrupt, think I'd rather stick to the current version.

Edit: I'm apparently the idiot who missed the trolling queue. >_>

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

Whats with all the FL10 hate? It added the one feature I had desperately desired for years. (A way to merge patterns together) I remember the days of 7, constantly having projects corrupt, think I'd rather stick to the current version.

Edit: I'm apparently the idiot who missed the trolling queue. >_>


Might be a troll post but I hate the new default piano roll and how it's zooming is inconsistent with the playlist(and really I don't like any of the ways it handles zooming vertically, obnoxious because it auto resizes too...), and if you just use the old PR it will revert to the ABC PR at random and every time you open a new song. Most of everything else is reversible through the options but I swear FL is becoming a less efficient program with every version, especially before you go in and spend like half an hour fixing the default settings. Saw a topic by neblix on looptalk earlier that reminded me of this

http://forum.image-l...p?f=100&t=92305

I hope he activated this by accident and this isn't another example of them making the default settings worse


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Posted 26 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

http://forum.image-l...p?f=100&t=92305

I hope he activated this by accident and this isn't another example of them making the default settings worse



Yeah that was a really bad mistake on my part. However, they did change the zoom piano roll shortcuts. Instead of pressing "2" for example for small, decent sized sixteenths, you have to press "Shift+2". So their piano roll is slowly degrading. X_X

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:19 AM

Might be a troll post but I hate the new default piano roll and how it's zooming is inconsistent with the playlist(and really I don't like any of the ways it handles zooming vertically, obnoxious because it auto resizes too...), and if you just use the old PR it will revert to the ABC PR at random and every time you open a new song. Most of everything else is reversible through the options but I swear FL is becoming a less efficient program with every version, especially before you go in and spend like half an hour fixing the default settings. Saw a topic by neblix on looptalk earlier that reminded me of this

http://forum.image-l...p?f=100&t=92305

I hope he activated this by accident and this isn't another example of them making the default settings worse


No, I ain't trolling, I really don't like FL 10. The piano roll is the biggest pet peeve for me here as well, but I also don't like how they changed the pattern system - which may be more efficient to some, but eh, I got used to FL7's (and still prefer it) - but yeah, I did notice that FL7 did get corrupt files here and there >.<, I'm willing to take the risk though.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:33 AM

but I also don't like how they changed the pattern system - which may be more efficient to some, but eh, I got used to FL7's (and still prefer it)


I can't believe people are STILL complaining about this after a few years since FL9 came out.




Go to Options > General Settings > Enable Legacy Pattern Blocks. Bejeezus. >_> (yeah they're still there)

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:09 AM

I can't believe people are STILL complaining about this after a few years since FL9 came out.




Go to Options > General Settings > Enable Legacy Pattern Blocks. Bejeezus. >_> (yeah they're still there)


D'oh, that would've saved me a lot of time and a pointless post :D
Well, thanks for the heads-up Neblix.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:08 PM

Might be a troll post but I hate the new default piano roll and how it's zooming is inconsistent with the playlist(and really I don't like any of the ways it handles zooming vertically, obnoxious because it auto resizes too...)


jesus yes, so damn annoying. constantly having to hit 4 to fit everything gets tiresome
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:52 PM

You guys are complaining about FLs piano roll? Has christmas come early or am I dreaming? :D

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:31 PM

You guys are complaining about FLs piano roll? Has christmas come early or am I dreaming? :D



FL 10.5 Beta came. (Which is like FL11 coming early, which is like christmas coming early, so yeah). Image-Line is consistently making the zoom settings worse. The actual functionality of the piano roll still trumps, though, so don't get too excited. :P

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

It's still better than any other programs piano roll that I've used but because of that I also wonder why they're trying to fix it, I can get gol's obsession with changing the image of FL with the stigma it used to have, "get rid of blocks because NOOBS use them!" and all that, but I never heard anyone criticize the piano roll(until these most recent updates)


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Posted 26 April 2012 - 07:18 PM

Gol's kind of an idiot in general. A developer shouldn't respond to legit program criticism with "it's supposed to be that way, deal with it".

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:49 PM

Used FL today for the first time in a month, figured I should check out the beta

Notes in the piano roll can now be muted(they're grey/not one of the normal colors), ctrl+Fing through the change list this doesn't seem to be listed or it's behavior explained, this occurred in a channel that I don't think I had even edited for like 10 minutes too. Found out that this is related to the new brush tool where you have to hold shift to make it work properly. Click and hold functions achieved nothing but pissing me off but at least there's an option to turn that off

To the best of my knowledge there is no longer a program out there featuring a good piano roll, back to trackerland


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Posted 01 May 2012 - 02:51 AM

Still use FL9.

Come at me Neblix.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:29 AM

Still use FL9.

Come at me Neblix.
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Yeah, couldn't find a legal work-around to get grab the older regfiles, so I went back to 9 - seems to work better for me than 10 :D




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