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finished FFIII "Go Above The Clouds" Chiptune Punk remix

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Good song. Wonder what you made it for? ;D

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Awesome! I haven't heard this genre before. Very nice work so far.

To my ears, though, the chiptune sound clashes with the guitar... perhaps that the tuning of the guitar?

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Awesome! I haven't heard this genre before. Very nice work so far.

To my ears, though, the chiptune sound clashes with the guitar... perhaps that the tuning of the guitar?

More than likely. My guitarist's D string broke so he just tuned an extra G string to a D. It sounded okay when recording, but in mixing it does seem wonky. I'll get on rerecording that.

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Even if you used a different string (G for D) it shouldn't have sounded out of tune... odd, sure, but not out of tune. You need to make absolutely sure that all of the strings are properly tuned before recording. With a real tuner, a DAW's tuner, or a VST's built-in tuner (like Guitar Rig's tuner)... There are some other issues but the guitars being out of tune is straight up the most important issue with the mix, so best of luck! Buy some new strings if you need to!

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Even if you used a different string (G for D) it shouldn't have sounded out of tune... odd, sure, but not out of tune. You need to make absolutely sure that all of the strings are properly tuned before recording. With a real tuner, a DAW's tuner, or a VST's built-in tuner (like Guitar Rig's tuner)... There are some other issues but the guitars being out of tune is straight up the most important issue with the mix, so best of luck! Buy some new strings if you need to!

the thing is, the string would detune every couple minutes since it was looser, so it could be the final one I used wasn't tuned soon enough. I'm gonna get my guitarist to borrow my extra strat and rerecord it. Also I'll check the effects I'm using on Guitar Rig and see if any of them have a pitch bend or detune.

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Also I'll check the effects I'm using on Guitar Rig and see if any of them have a pitch bend or detune.

Tuner should have a little tuning fork icon, it's not a component in Guitar Rig -- it's a tool. Pitch pedal and detune have their uses, but not for this particular issue. :D

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Yeah, the lead guitar, at least, is still flat by a few cents. :|

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Yeah, the lead guitar, at least, is still flat by a few cents. :|

Yeah, that parts been giving me trouble

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Rhythm guitar still seems off, though better. Rather than retrack maybe just try to pitch shift it into tune. Lead guitar is noticeably off. It caused my cat to attack my face (ok not really). I'd say at this point just run it through some pitch correction software. I get the punk vibe you're going for, but ya still gotta be in tune. :)

Edited by Argle

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Rhythm guitar still seems off, though better. Rather than retrack maybe just try to pitch shift it into tune. Lead guitar is noticeably off. It caused my cat to attack my face (ok not really). I'd say at this point just run it through some pitch correction software. I get the punk vibe you're going for, but ya still gotta be in tune. :)

The pitch correction, which didn't even know existed, so thank you, worked for my lead part, but it's registering all sorts of wrong notes for my rhythm, so I'll do what I can. Thanks!

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Melodyne can handle polyphonic material like guitar chords. If you want to send the rhythm guitar track to me I'll be happy to run it through melodyne.

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Melodyne can handle polyphonic material like guitar chords. If you want to send the rhythm guitar track to me I'll be happy to run it through melodyne.

If you could, that would be positively radical, I'll PM the track.

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This would be the point where, if this was a resub on the panel, I think a jooj would have said to check into Shreddage 2 or a similar midi guitar library. As far as OCR goes the guitars need to be in tune and sound pretty decent, if not very good. The tuning is still way off, and it's something you have to have an ear for before you even start recording. If you record guitar like the part at 1:51 and you can't tell that it is out of tune, then you need to take a step back and practice a lot more before recording so you can get an ear for playing guitar... it doesn't help if you practice out of tune either. You need to get yourself a tuner, and make sure you have all of the correct strings in each spot (don't use a B string as a G string or whatnot). It's probably fine for the Cid album but it wouldn't fly as an OCR mixpost, not yet anyway... Don't give up.

And don't use auto-tune/melodyne to try to fix it.

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Here is a new version of the song. I didn't change any tuning stuff but I did change the drums significantly and I did more mixing. Please criticize, as always, to fullest scrutiny.

PS Also got rid of the guitar in the bridge because it sucked and I'm glad it's gone.

Edited by PixelPanic

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HEY WHAT THIS SONG CAME BACK WHUH-OH

YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT OH MY GOD

Should probably clarify this is A VERY DIFFERENT SONG but it is

A) Based off the same track

B) Made for the same album and

C) The same genre

so I just used this thread again.

Edited by PixelPanic

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PLEASE tune the guitar, and record the rhythm twice and hardpan it, and put some audible bass in there.

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Your advice of tuning the guitar doesn't make any sense, it IS tuned. If it sounds untuned, I don't get how.

Also, the guitar IS hardpanned

Edited by PixelPanic

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You can't hardpan the same track, it'll just turn mono. You gotta record it 2 separate, unique times. And the guitar IS still badly out of tune. All of the guitar tracks will need to be re-recorded, it's not something you'll be able to fix digitally. :(

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The lead guitar might be a bit off-tune, yeah, if that's what you're looking at primarily.

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