Liontamer

HELP NEEDED! ReMix Tagging Project! (Genres, Moods, Instrumentation, etc.)

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Great idea! I'd love to contribute to this. Go ahead and assign me some tracks! 

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I'd say Trance more than house, but it's definitivly classic trance...

 

Cheers

 

Yeah, the problem with trance is that what is labeled "trance" has changed so much over the years that they barely resemble each other. Compare Hello Strings by Synergy (released on Armin van Buuren's label) to Armin van Buuren's D# Fat. They're both on trance labels but barely sound alike.

 

Of course, it doesn't help that trance isn't really strictly defined by beat pattern and time signature like house, dubstep, etc. is. Trance nowadays tends to be applied to anything put out by a trance artist...even trance-y songs aren't considered "trance" if, say, put out by deadmau5 (I Remember is considered progressive house, not trance, despite being more "trance"-like than anything van Buuren's put out in the last five years). It's very muddied. :|

 

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Yeah, the problem with trance is that what is labeled "trance" has changed so much over the years that they barely resemble each other. Compare Hello Strings by Synergy (released on Armin van Buuren's label) to Armin van Buuren's D# Fat. They're both on trance labels but barely sound alike.

 

Of course, it doesn't help that trance isn't really strictly defined by beat pattern and time signature like house, dubstep, etc. is. Trance nowadays tends to be applied to anything put out by a trance artist...even trance-y songs aren't considered "trance" if, say, put out by deadmau5 (I Remember is considered progressive house, not trance, despite being more "trance"-like than anything van Buuren's put out in the last five years). It's very muddied. :|

 

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Agree 100% with this :(

 

It's indeed very sad that the 'trance' movement now has become the 'pop' music of EDM... I didn't want to sound pejorative in any way, it's just that it's no more underground and it's love by the mass, which is awesome for the artists!

 

Anyway,

/nerd out :D

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Classes got canceled today for a severe windstorm. So I can get going on the ones I have now! :)

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Looking to pick this back up. If anyone's interested in digging into the older mixes and proposing tags for them, please let us know!

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I'll finish my batch soon, sorry for the wait...I had a bunch of things happen (web commission started + new job + really sick over Christmas) and I'm now just getting back into the groove of things.

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Okay! We're live in beta form with the existing tag set - output from this initiative has not yet been integrated, but will be soon, and since the data is now (MUCH) more visible, we're hoping we'll get a bit more feedback & participation!

See what you think: http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03295

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Is there a way to design the page to show three or four of the main tags, and then have a link that'll show/hide the rest?  It seems redundant to me to list the same type of tag multiple times (i.e. electronic + synth, or strings + cello) but I understand the reason for wanting as many terms for a mix you can give it.

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20 minutes ago, Skrypnyk said:

Is there a way to design the page to show three or four of the main tags, and then have a link that'll show/hide the rest?  It seems redundant to me to list the same type of tag multiple times (i.e. electronic + synth, or strings + cello) but I understand the reason for wanting as many terms for a mix you can give it.

This certainly isn't the final layout, this is just initial exposure to the data. While the data is under review, it kinda helps to have it all easily viewable, even if certain terms overlap.

Eventually, we want to prioritize & colorize the genre terms first, and then probably mood... there are usually only 2-3 each, of those... and then instrumentation & additional tags would probably be revealed with a "more" button, yes...

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I'd be more than glad to help out. Sign me up :grin:

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I've been a wallflower on this thread, and I think it's really a great idea. I read most of the thread and I have a question, is anything other than the ascetics of the tag going to come from this? Will I be able to search using the tags? So if for instance Chill-step is probably too specific to merit it's own tag, but I would search Mood: Chill Genre:Dubstep.

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I haven't been too active with this, but I spent some time doing OCR00421-00425.

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8 hours ago, YoshiBlade said:

I've been a wallflower on this thread, and I think it's really a great idea. I read most of the thread and I have a question, is anything other than the ascetics of the tag going to come from this? Will I be able to search using the tags? So if for instance Chill-step is probably too specific to merit it's own tag, but I would search Mood: Chill Genre:Dubstep.

Yes.

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Maybe I missed this if it was already covered, but will this go beyond searching for music on the site itself? As in, will metadata be added to every track that can be sorted and viewed within iTunes? Sounds like a lot more work, so I'm doubting this is the case. Just curious, though.

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I think I might've missed just how this works- but I can't seem to "click" on a tag to be taken to a list of remixes tagged with that term. How does it work?

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On 5/21/2016 at 4:44 PM, Valhalla Knight said:

Maybe I missed this if it was already covered, but will this go beyond searching for music on the site itself? As in, will metadata be added to every track that can be sorted and viewed within iTunes? Sounds like a lot more work, so I'm doubting this is the case. Just curious, though.

No plans for that, especially with a dynamic system where we probably won't tag everything fully/100% correctly.
2 hours ago, WesternZypher said:

I think I might've missed just how this works- but I can't seem to "click" on a tag to be taken to a list of remixes tagged with that term. How does it work?

 

For now, you can't click on anything. That will be added later by djp, though we need to get more of the tagging work done as well so that it's more comprehensive.

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On 6/3/2016 at 4:29 PM, Liontamer said:

No plans for that, especially with a dynamic system where we probably won't tag everything fully/100% correctly.

 

For now, you can't click on anything. That will be added later by djp, though we need to get more of the tagging work done as well so that it's more comprehensive.

Good to know! Thanks for the reply. :nicework:

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I think I still got #436 - 500 to go through, but yeah, maybe more assignments, @Liontamer? :)

EDIT: got #442 - 500 left

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@Liontamer @DarkeSword I'm re-pinning this due to update:

2,850 new ReMix-Term associations (tags) are now live on the site after processing the first wave of submissions!!

THANKS to @timaeus222, @Tables, @SystemsReady, @Olarin, and @Jean Of mArc for the hard work and to @DarkeSword & @Liontamer for coordinating!

We now have 16,000+ total ReMix-Term associations in the database.

Time for more!!

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