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Hey, deal with it TO. People sign on and notice that your name is in green. People mistake me for a mod all the time, and when they do, I just relay any messages to the mod that will be signing on the closest (for example I send a pm/aim smoke if it is around 3 am pst)

Someone is going through pms...

Also, if there are any bots up in site projects, hit me up :wink:

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It's all already in this post:

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88071

Which is already an announcement clearly available to all at the top of the forum.

Yet people don't seem to actually notice it since we still get replies to spambot threads.

One pointer: Don't reply to spambots, and don't reply to someone replying to a spambot telling them it's a spambot. Keep replies to all spambot threads to a minimum. This includes the ones that post in an already existing thread(Yeah, those happen too and tend to be a lot harder to spot since we simply cannot go through every single topic fully)

We should add a report button for threads or something... But I have a feeling that'd be abused as well.

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It's all already in this post:

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88071

Which is already an announcement clearly available to all at the top of the forum.

Yet people don't seem to actually notice it since we still get replies to spambot threads.

In truth though, what's the harm? Everyone knows such threads are going to be deleted, so they post there for their own amusement and to get/give a chuckle before it dies. It's not like they're spamming a legit topic, flaming people to high hell, posting porn (that's usually already covered), or thread breaking (Khan Dancing?).

We should add a report button for threads or something... But I have a feeling that'd be abused as well.

At least once a minute in UnMod :lol:

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There is a kind of harm: The most recently replied to threads in a few certain forums are also posted on the front page.

This means more exposure for the spambots in general, since any unsuspecting n00b could click one and follow the link in it. The spammer can see where he gets most of his hits from, and could very easily be tempted to set more bots on those places as a result.

It's basically the same as spam e-mails: You don't read those and you don't respond to them either, because this just confirms activity.

DarkeSword also explains it here three weeks ago.

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There is a kind of harm: The most recently replied to threads in a few certain forums are also posted on the front page.

This means more exposure for the spambots in general, since any unsuspecting n00b could click one and follow the link in it. The spammer can see where he gets most of his hits from, and could very easily be tempted to set more bots on those places as a result.

It's basically the same as spam e-mails: You don't read those and you don't respond to them either, because this just confirms activity.

DarkeSword also explains it here three weeks ago.

If we had functioning Topic Reply Notification system, I could see what DS said about replying as being a serious issue. But we don't, so there's no way for sender to know anyone read it just by replying to the thread. With that said however, I do see your point about upping the chances of a painfully sheltered newbie clicking the links (though they could be clicking them anyway whether a topic is replied to or not unfortunately). That's something I hadn't really considered since more and more kids are getting reasonably Internet savvy at a younger age, so I'll agree with you on that.

But sometimes it's just so tempting to reply ;)

However, if memory serves, don't spam bots also rely on whether or not a given message actually went through? You know, if a message to an address isn't deliverable, it no longer goes there. But if it goes through, then it keeps going through whether the message is read or not.

I don't read my spam E-mails, but they keep coming. So that tells me that something else is at work, letting the dickwads sending the spam know that an actual address is being reached, and to keep going there.

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Well, the replies do bump threads. Also, most spambots are registered with throwaway temporary addresses, so even a fully functional topic reply notification wouldn't help.

As far as spam mail goes: There's not only checks to see if a message is delivered, but images with referrer links inside them that are triggered when they're viewed are another method to measure exposure.

Also, posting your e-mail address visibly anywhere on the internet is pretty much an invitation to spam these days.

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