FLMC - Fruity Loops Music Competition 7: Super Metroid [VOTING]

[Gollgagh]

Welcome to FLMC7!


This month's theme is Super Metroid.

Voting time!

Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.

Okay, voting time. Sorry it's taken so long.

Here are the entries:

Bundeslang - Red Item
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-FLMC7-RedItem_Master.mp3) | Zipped FLP file (http://pages.google.com/-/static_files/Bundeslang-RedItem-FLMC7.zip)

Rocketsniper - Untitled
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.zip)

sosadagr8 - projectmetroid
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.zip)

Smenelian - Smenelian Brinstar
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.zip)

DDRKirby(ISQ) - 3xOSC Supersaw
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.zip)

Choose an entry for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. 1st will recieve 4 points, 2nd will recieve 2, 3rd will recieve 1.

Votes should look something like this:
==========================
First place:
~person 1 - Super untstroid~
olol this mix wurz purty awsome cuz of the BOOMBOOM and the sweet synhts!

Second place:
~person 2 - Super Metroid mix 2007~
this wurz purty gud too but it didn't have enough UNTS

Third place:
~person 3 - Zoomers R us~
kekekek nice name but work more on the song next time kthx
==========================
If you would rather not have your vote posted in the thread, simply say so. Otherwise, all votes will be posted.

I reiterate: Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.

Oldinfo: I've set up a site for FLMC: click here to see it. (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/)


Click here to download the SPCs. (http://remix.supertux.com/songs/original/Super%20Metroid.rsn) If your music player doesn't play SPCs, then follow the instructions on this page (http://www.chipamp.org/).

Click here to download the MIDIs. (http://www.midishrine.com/ostepop/sns/Super_Metroid.zip)


A quick recap of the rules for FLMC:

You arrange music in FL, using only default synths and samples. No external VSTs or samples.

* No Sytrus, DX10, Wasp, Soundfont Player, etc.
* You are allowed to use the FLMC7 Pack (provided by DDRKirby). Click here (Googlepages) (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7Pack.rar) or here (YouSendIt) (http://download.yousendit.com/5A66A75A5D403A3A) to download it.
* You may enter as many songs as you want.
* You may create either a remix or an original song.
* You may collaborate with other entrants.
* You must provide a FLP file (preferably in the form of a zipped project file). No exceptions.

You may either post your submissions in the thread, or email them to OCR.FLMC@gmail.com



And last, the submission deadline is SEPTEMBER 1, 2007, 11:59PM EST.

Good luck!



Update:
The submission deadline has been extended to September 9th, 11:59PM EST.

[Bundeslang]

Good to see the FLMC back. I have a site around FLMC5 and 6
http://bambombim.googlepages.com
I will link to your site there if the Contest is around the voting stage.

But what's going on with the Competition Forum???

[Drack]

Competitions forum (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

[Bundeslang]

Competitions forum (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31)
I mean: it seems the new contest are posted in the regular Community forum instead of in the Competition Forum. Is it going to removed soon or is it still open for coming contests?

[Gollgagh]

But what's going on with the Competition Forum???

Competitions get put in gendisc while active, then get moved to the Competitions forum once they're finished.

[Gollgagh]

Here is a half-assed banner I made this morning:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9124/flmc7ap3.png

It's a zoomer if you couldn't tell.


I'll try to make a better one this afternoon.

[Bundeslang]

I like the banner, added it to my signature as well.
The link seems not to work for me. I just added the topic link below it.

[Zephyr]

Hey everyone, Zephyr here, I'm a bit of a newbie to re-mixing but you've gotta start somewhere, I'd be very interested in doing a bit of a collab/mentorship deal with someone. I can't help out a ton, but I'll offer anything I can do. I have a keyboard and can play piano well. if anyone is the slightest bit interested please let me know. I realize that this is relatively late in the competition to be coming in, but I'd like to help anyways, you can have full credit if you like. Thanks you very much.

[Gollgagh]

Go for it, dude!

This compo needs all the participation it can get.

[Gollgagh]

Hey everyone, Zephyr here, I'm a bit of a newbie to re-mixing but you've gotta start somewhere, I'd be very interested in doing a bit of a collab/mentorship deal with someone. I can't help out a ton, but I'll offer anything I can do. I have a keyboard and can play piano well. if anyone is the slightest bit interested please let me know. I realize that this is relatively late in the competition to be coming in, but I'd like to help anyways, you can have full credit if you like. Thanks you very much.

Check your PMs.

[Bundeslang]

OK, I have mailed my Entry. Don't think it's legendary, but the first entry (or not??) is send. Hopefully I will see more entrants, so I'm not ending in top 3 this time. Good luck all.

BTW: My song is called 'Red Item', it contains music from the Item Receive theme and Red Brinstar Theme. If you want, I can upload the song to my google page and post a link to it.

[RocketSniper]

In a world where RocketSniper attempts another entry...

One man must be put behind. One man must fight hordes of enemies. That man. Is.


*explosion*





A woman!

(reveal samus)

[Bundeslang]

OK, I have uploaded my entry to my site. It's Googlepages, so make sure you have all the 3 minutes and 44 seconds (3:44) from the song. I also have a link to my zipped FLP file with samples.

MP3 File:
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-FLMC7-RedItem.mp3

ZIP File:
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-RedItem-FLMC7.zip

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

like, one week, eh?

hmmmmmm....

[RocketSniper]

I really am working on it, you know. It's just over a minute now... and/or a mother brain mix. I'm not quite sure how I'm going to draw this out to contest length.

7/4's difficult :?




Also, yay a good drum loop.

Edit: I just noticed that this is in the competitions forum now. It hasn't ended yet!

Still got a week or so...

[RocketSniper]

It also seems there's a "workspace" forum now? ... Thanks :pretzel:

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Also, yay a good drum loop.

really? which one would that be?

[Nex]

I may have to have fun with this :) I'll see what I can do.

edit: can't really find any source material that I'm digging. I'll have to join the next one :)

[RocketSniper]

I may have to have fun with this :) I'll see what I can do.

edit: can't really find any source material that I'm digging. I'll have to join the next one :)
It's also "inspired by"... so if you find something that you think would be able to go in the game (some kind of wandering music probably... maybe something kinda chaotic...) then that works too.

I'm using loop 2 mostly, I'm liking all of the ones included though...

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

cool. make sure you process them and make them sound all neat and phat--they're not completely dry but I didn't go through that really thoroughly when i threw them together.



as for the possibility of receiving an entry from me, well, it hinges upon me sitting down for a day and happening to get something good going. if that doesn't happen in the next week, i'm out.

[Bundeslang]

I may have to have fun with this :) I'll see what I can do.

edit: can't really find any source material that I'm digging. I'll have to join the next one :)
If I've read the rules correctly, it's also allowed to post an original song. Try that, you don't have to use the Super Metroid songs if I'm correct.

[Nex]

If I've read the rules correctly, it's also allowed to post an original song. Try that, you don't have to use the Super Metroid songs if I'm correct.

That's... Interesting. I wonder why that is. Oh well, I guess I'll try that!

[Nex]

It's also "inspired by"... so if you find something that you think would be able to go in the game (some kind of wandering music probably... maybe something kinda chaotic...) then that works too.

I'm using loop 2 mostly, I'm liking all of the ones included though...

I'll try that. Are we allowed to use any of the metroid samples in the mix?

[RocketSniper]

A quick recap of the rules for FLMC:

You arrange music in FL, using only default synths and samples. No external VSTs or samples.

* No Sytrus, DX10, Wasp, Soundfont Player, etc.
* You are allowed to use the FLMC7 Pack (provided by DDRKirby). Click here (Googlepages) (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7Pack.rar) or here (YouSendIt) (http://download.yousendit.com/5A66A75A5D403A3A) to download it.
* You may enter as many songs as you want.
* You may create either a remix or an original song.
* You may collaborate with other entrants.
* You must provide a FLP file (preferably in the form of a zipped project file). No exceptions.

You may either post your submissions in the thread, or email them to OCR.FLMC@gmail.com



And last, the submission deadline is SEPTEMBER 1, 2007, 11:59PM EST.


Good luck!

So yeah. Can't use samples from the game, but can create original music. Basically, everything's got to originate from fruity loops or the sample pack.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

So yeah. Can't use samples from the game, but can create original music. Basically, everything's got to originate from fruity loops or the sample pack.

Yeah, that would have been cool and I could have ripped the sounds and included them in the pack, but it didn't really occur to me at the time. oh well.

[Hemophiliac]

ok so i don't know this compo well, what specificially can't you use in the first rule?

can you use FL Keys? 3xOSC? BooBass?

[RocketSniper]

I've got fruity loops version (second only to the sexpress edition in cheapness) so I'll see what all I can use.

I'm pretty sure it's limited to full edition stuff, though.




So... if you can write everything and save it, and you aren't using external samples or plugins, then you're fine. External means you have to buy it separately or in one of the uber-packs, like Sytrus...


So here's a list of things I can use. This may or may not be exhaustive.

Layer
Audio clip/Sampler (as long as what you're sampling is rendered by you from these instruments, or is preset in FL)
TS404
Speech Synthesizer
3xOSC
Beepmap
Chrome
Dashboard
FL Keys
Slayer
FPC
Fruit Kick
Envelope controller
Granulizer
Keyboard controller,
Fruity Slicer
MIDI out (use this with fruity LSD (special effect) if you want to hear sound)
ReWired
Wave Traveller


Now for effects,

EQUO
7 band EQ
Center
Chorus
Compressor
dB meter
Delay
Delay 2
Delay Bank
fast Dist
Filter
Flanger
Flangus
Formula Controller
Free Filter
HTML NoteBook
Love Philter
Multiband Compressor
PanOMatic
Parametric EQ
Parametric EQ2
Peak controller
Phaser
Reeverb
Reeverb 2
Soft Clipper
Spectroman
Squeeze
Stereo Enhancer
Vocoder
WaveShaper
X-Y controller

So pretty much everything but Edison.


I'd list all the samples, but that would take a loong time...

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

ok so i don't know this compo well, what specificially can't you use in the first rule?

can you use FL Keys? 3xOSC? BooBass?

FL Keys is okay, BooBass is fine.

3xOsc is pretty much a necessity, lol.

RocketSniper's list is pretty much accurate. The only things you really have to worry about is no external samples, no sytrus, no wasp, and no soundfonts.

[Hemophiliac]

ok so why can't we use DX10 then?

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Because it's something you have to purchase separately, just like Wasp.

[RocketSniper]

I can't use DX10 in fruity loops edition - it's considered demo software.

No, this competition isn't about me.

However, I'm stuck with the normal version that we're basing the competition on.

[Zephyr]

Well, me and El Pollo diablo had decided to do a collab, but that doesn't seem to be happening. He's not returning my PM's. I know time is pretty much out, but I'm just wondering how you guys start off, I've never done a re-mix before but I've got the equipment now and am ready to start. Any tips at all would be good, and if anyone knows where el pollo is, let me know :lol:

[Gollgagh]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Liontamer decided to be a fucktard and merged EPD's and my accounts since we were posting from the same computer. That means that I've got all of his PM's making my box about 150% full. I can't receive any PM's and I'm afraid to delete the wrong ones.

I keep telling my bro to post here, but I guess he hasn't. Try your damnedest to contact him on MSN or something.

[RocketSniper]

Wow, that's... irritating.

[Gollgagh]

Quite.

You might try emailing the compo email as well since he checks that regularly.

[Zephyr]

Oh, well that's... interesting...

[RocketSniper]

Alright guys, August 29. Deadline's on Saturday.

[RocketSniper]

August thirty... today and tomorrow. Are these submissions due *by* the first, or on the first?

[El Pollo Diablo]

Well, that was interesting.


LT gave me back my joindate and postcount, though, so it's all good.


@ Zephyr: Let's just work stuff out in PMs, okay?

@ Rocketsniper: Any time before the second. Though, I'm probably going to extend the deadline about a week to give people a little more time.

[Zephyr]

Welcome back! That was an interesting dilemma, Allright, let's get this going!

[RocketSniper]

Woo-ooo.

I'm having a problem working with my stuff because of the 7/4 to 4/4 conversion, so this is gonna be a while.

Not to mention this was finals week for my online classes.

[Gollgagh]

Alright, the deadline has been extended due to a multitude of unforseen misfortunes including, but not limited to account merges, broadband modems dying, and broadband routers dying.

[RocketSniper]

Woohoo.

(10 chars)

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

aiyah...now when i don't end up submitting anything i'll feel worse.

[Smenelian]

Is it too late to enter? I can have something done by the 9th.

[Gollgagh]

The more, the merrier.

Go for it!

[Bundeslang]

There's still hope I don't win (by default).

[RocketSniper]

I'm posting what I have...

http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.zip (4 megabytes) (http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.zip)
http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.mp3 (3 megabytes) (http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.mp3)


I'm not too pleased with it. I'm still working on it, but at this point, I'm confused as to how to end it... and/or how to rearrange things so it makes sense...




I need an arranger! aah!

[RocketSniper]

Well... an arranger or simply some better ideas.


Yar.

[sosadagr8]

glad im not too late on this

[Gollgagh]

glad im not too late on this

Anything you can give us, anything will be excellent.

[RocketSniper]

So, Gollagh, when's the deadline been extended to? I might be able to try another project this weekend... I kinda gave up on the last one, so I guess that's the final version.

[sosadagr8]

Ok, the midi sequences work in my FL, but I have no idea what to do with the RSN file, its unknown to my comp and isnt detected as related to the midi sequence. Help appreciated.

edit: wait, nevermind, i needed winamp. so it is it the only program i can play it with, right?

[RocketSniper]

I think meridian prime will play it too, but if you've already got winamp installed and running .rsn's, I don't see a reason to really switch to anything else.

http://vgmusic.com/ for game midis.

[sosadagr8]

uppin my FLP to the email right now, i got 5 min left on the deadline

[sosadagr8]

I just sent it to OCR.FLMC@gmail.com

but to be on the safe side i upped it to sendspace
http://www.sendspace.com/file/yk19vo

[Smenelian]

A remix based on the midi "Brinstar Green Vegetation."

zip: http://www.sendspace.com/file/45yhxp
mp3: http://www.myspace.com/awesomelycoolstuff - Unfinished Metroid Project

It's pretty rough and certainly not done, but it's mostly there.

[RocketSniper]

Ahh we need easier source material. We'd probably have much better participation if we did a mega man game. Or chrono trigger. Or anything from the final fantasy series.

Probably have to do so until we get enough people to try harder games like metroid(s)...

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

i don't think source tune was the issue.

or, it wasn't for me.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Just in case any of you forgot the power that is FIFTEEN 3xOSC's:

http://download.yousendit.com/7DE237DF40710828

WARNING: if you get "access violation" close the playlist window immediately. dunno why this happened.

...i guess you could put this down as an entry, lolz.

[Hylian Lemon]

Ahh we need easier source material. We'd probably have much better participation if we did a mega man game. Or chrono trigger. Or anything from the final fantasy series.

Probably have to do so until we get enough people to try harder games like metroid(s)...
I would have entered, but I have nothing without my soundfonts. XP

[Smenelian]

WARNING: if you get "access violation" close the playlist window immediately. dunno why this happened.


Oops, I probably should have listened to that advice. I encountered a whole army of access violations.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

mp3 is here in case you run into that problem.

http://download.yousendit.com/7DCDB69D6C41FBD5

[RocketSniper]

Any idea what's causing the access violations?





is it 15 3xOSC's at once?

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

no, it's something to do with the clip portion of the playlist window. It's because right now my FL version is "funky" but that will soon be fixed once I get to college. (b-_-)b

[Bundeslang]

When does voting start.

I'm happy to see five songs up, especially from the newer participants. I'll listen to the songs later.

[RocketSniper]

I can't seem to grab sosa's. Every time I try, the hosting site is 'out of free download bandwidth' or something.


That's crap.

[RocketSniper]

Bump for votes

[Bundeslang]

Voting already started??

I'm missing an official announcement, there's nothing on the first post (or last) and nothing on the site. What are the rules ???

[RocketSniper]

I was bumping to hopefully draw the attention of Gollagh, or whoever's running the contest.

I'm pretty sure voting was supposed to start right after the submission deadline...

[Gollgagh]

Voting time!

(Could a mod update the title to reflect this, please?)

Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.

Also, tell everybody to vote for this junk! I want at least twice as many votes as there are entries.

Okay, voting time. Sorry it's taken so long.

Here are the entries:

Bundeslang - Red Item
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-FLMC7-RedItem_Master.mp3) | Zipped FLP file (http://pages.google.com/-/static_files/Bundeslang-RedItem-FLMC7.zip)

Rocketsniper - Untitled
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.zip)

sosadagr8 - projectmetroid
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.zip)

Smenelian - Smenelian Brinstar
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.zip)

DDRKirby(ISQ) - 3xOSC Supersaw
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.zip)

Choose an entry for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. 1st will recieve 4 points, 2nd will recieve 2, 3rd will recieve 1.

Votes should look something like this:
==========================
First place:
~person 1 - Super untstroid~
olol this mix wurz purty awsome cuz of the BOOMBOOM and the sweet synhts!

Second place:
~person 2 - Super Metroid mix 2007~
this wurz purty gud too but it didn't have enough UNTS

Third place:
~person 3 - Zoomers R us~
kekekek nice name but work more on the song next time kthx
==========================
If you would rather not have your vote posted in the thread, simply say so. Otherwise, all votes will be posted.

I reiterate: Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.

[RocketSniper]

We can't vote for ourselves, right? :-D

[Gollgagh]

Sure, go ahead.

[Zephyr]

Haha, nice one Kirby, the second I hit play my computer exploded, I can't say you didn't warn me though. I'm judging as I type, I'm going to for sure be in the next FL competition, due to the mix-ups with El Pollo I guess I didn't make the deadline, I'm still finishing the re-mix though, I'll send my votes in right away, but since we're all her to learn anyways, I'll give a bit of constructive criticism while I go through the songs.

Rocket Sniper-untitled
Some harsh sounds start this one off but they work, I like that explosion, it works well for the transition. I love the ringing sound effect. A bit repetitive seems to do the same thing for too long. Some of the transitions good use a tad of work, I like the FM on the drums, nice use of the source. Nice building near the end there.

Sosadagr8- project metroid
Nice funky beginning, I can hear a bit of clipping on the the bass hits, it kinda ruins the quality of the song, I fixed it quite easily by running a soft clipper on the kick and also turned off one of the kicks since you had 2 of the same going at once.. nice organ bit (are we allowed to use simsynth though?)... Nice transition to the next part I like that little background downward chromatic thing. You could probably have changed up the drums for some of these parts, all the parts aren't the same style so it should probably change. Also, this mix doesn't really build on itself enough, it's mainly sections split by crash cymbals. Nice job overall.

Bundeslang-red item
I love that beggining and the groove on the hats. after that, a lot of the melodies seem to clash, I'm not a fan of the main melody line that you used. not too much to say about this one, nice bass sound, some of the melody is off time 3/4 of the way through. Some of the sounds sound out of key a bit, not a bad ending though. Nice job, but I think it's just not my style.

Smenelian-Smenelian Brinstar
Nice smooth transition from intro into the song, I love the guitar's panning echo, nice use of a mix of 2 sound effects there, nice little bit of moving bass, perfect use of pads and harsh sounds around 1:40. Melody at 2:00 is nice. Nice use of slayer in this song. Good panning all throughout and you got 3xOsc to do pretty much everything you needed, I need to learn how to use it like you. Good drums too, Great Job.

DDR Kirby-SuperSaw
Haha, nice building and I suppose I have to give you full points for use of FL's 3xOsc, but just a tad short, on the upper side, I have no complaints, so that's a plus. I give this one a lol/10

My decision is made, votes sent. Great job everyone and good luck, and don't take my criticism too seriously.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

DDR Kirby-SuperSaw
Haha, nice building and I suppose I have to give you full points for use of FL's 3xOsc, but just a tad short

bit of an understatement there =P

[Gollgagh]

We have thee votes already. Very encouraging.


I got lazy with the voting banner:

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[Gollgagh]

Yes, that's right ladies and gentlemen, it's Voting time!

Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.


Here are the entries:

Bundeslang - Red Item
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/Bundeslang-FLMC7-RedItem_Master.mp3) | Zipped FLP file (http://pages.google.com/-/static_files/Bundeslang-RedItem-FLMC7.zip)

Rocketsniper - Untitled
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled.zip)

sosadagr8 - projectmetroid
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/projectmetroid.zip)

Smenelian - Smenelian Brinstar
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar.zip)

DDRKirby(ISQ) - 3xOSC Supersaw
MP3 file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.mp3) | Zipped project file (http://ocr.flmc.googlepages.com/DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw.zip)

Choose an entry for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. 1st will recieve 4 points, 2nd will recieve 2, 3rd will recieve 1.

Votes should look something like this:
==========================
First place:
~person 1 - Super untstroid~
olol this mix wurz purty awsome cuz of the BOOMBOOM and the sweet synhts!

Second place:
~person 2 - Super Metroid mix 2007~
this wurz purty gud too but it didn't have enough UNTS

Third place:
~person 3 - Zoomers R us~
kekekek nice name but work more on the song next time kthx
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I reiterate: Please PM all of your votes to me, Gollgagh. Voting ends on September 30, 11:59 PM EST.

[RocketSniper]

These reviews are going to be a bit (well okay, extremely) harsh, so read at your own risk. I'm doing my own, too for thoughts governing that song...

Bundeslang: The intro's okay. Nothing fancy, but nothing horribly out of place until FX07_14 kicks in. It's out of tune, even with itself, and is much more of a special effect to be used sparingly than a melody line - I ended up muting it for the rest of the review. Pattern seven is a transitory string line that doesn't stick around long enough to really do too much. It comes in, meshes poorly with pattern six, and leaves. After that, the song picks up a lot. I like pattern 38-46 much more than anything before it. Next, you cut the theme and flip to something else... which ends up cutting back to what you flipped from? It's something like a musical double take for me. I'm kinda looking at something for a while, it doesn't register, I glance away then I notice something is off and I glance back just long enough for it to leave. oh well. In any case, the next section needing attention is when pattern fourteen kicks in fo reals. The background stuff starts going, but there's very little going on musically to capture my attention (I'm musically ADD, if you can't tell). The melody cuts in and the strings cut out - the strings haven't been building enough to warrant a break like this, so it seems a bit out of place. Also, pattern 16 gets displaced during it's tenth measure of existence, causing the 'time signature' change mentioned by Zephyr. The melody cuts out again, and we're left with the bass that you've built up to with three repetitions. the song kinda winds down and is over. I liked the ending - the removal of parts until the lead is the only thing left (except a sweep sound effect) works well here.


aww crap, I have class. I'll get the others when I get back.


Smnelian - intro's not a real attention getter, but it works. FL bell preset doesn't seem to fit its part. The slayer's used decently, though the base material doesn't give you too much to work with here. AUTO Easy Wah is an interesting transition instrument. Nice use of choir Aah. at 25-33, the 'lead' instrument (pattern 9) seems a little out of place - up until then, the mix has been very laid back, but that synth was an extremely energetic lead. Mini-breakdown at 33's an interesting break from the beginning portion. 45 loses a LOT of energy for the transition. 'Lead' seems to be used not for energy, but for a sort of electric feel here. It works pretty well with the rest, though I'd advise some sort of tempo, instrument, or lead change through this area to get the feeling of more energy collecting for the sort of climax at 65. The cut back to the intro here was pretty sudden - the transition wasn't very smooth. Maybe find some way of keeping 'lead' going? Chorus plays again, already seen and done, and... wait, it's the breakdown again. ahh crap. Looks like you just doubled the song at 73. This works for an indefinite track, such as if we were re-writing this song for introduction back into the game, but not for a normal length song.

sosadgr8 - The sound is interesting, but it looks very, very much like a midi rip. While this is technically acceptable, it usually keeps you from inserting your own skills, and relies much more on the original to carry your work. To fix the broken speaker effect this song seems to be producing, try turning down everything a little bit. while this may sound like it'll take too long, or is counter-productive, the sheer number of instruments going off makes this song (especially the beginning) difficult to get the volume right on. Very funky. Then it cuts to a random theme. It sort of works, but nothing signals the transition until it hits, so I'm a bit musically startled each time it happens. Instruments work pretty well together, but the percussion got very repetitive. It never cut out or changed by enough to really mention.

DDRKirby - The project broke meh. Everyone complained, you warned us, but here it is. I can't see what's going on in the project at all. Sounds great, but is... well, short. Starts to go somewhere, but then just stops.

RocketSniper - intro is super-generic crappy techno. Not too sure what's going on here. We're assaulted with fairly random stuff until about 20 when the lead for a while kicks in. Though it's spread into different channels, the whole deal repeats far too many times without any sort of break in-between. Gets old pretty fast. Transition at about 50 is iffy - needs some sort of warning before-hand. Maybe break the lead apart somehow? Transition at 58's iffy as well, it's quite a bit too soon after the other one for a transition like this. Needs a carry-over instrument of some kind, maybe? Lead at ~63 needs to change. At first it's far too quiet, but ends up being a decent volume. Good filter pass, on the drums. ~72 has a nice reference to earlier in the song, just it's in 4/4 instead of 7/4 now. ~84, once again I'm lost. Pulls back together nicely at ~109. Song continues until it stops. End is once again an abrupt transition.




Also, Bonus track from FL version 5 (http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/Jazzeh.mp3)

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Also, Bonus track from FL version 5 (http://rocketsniper.googlepages.com/Jazzeh.mp3)

This track wins over us all.

[Gollgagh]

My dear audience, we have one week left of voting, then it's over!

I need six (6) more votes from you all. If you have a little extra time, please give these a listen and send me a vote.

[Hylian Lemon]

Why exactly do you need six more votes?

Also, I sent in my vote a while ago. Yeah. Go me.

[Gollgagh]

It's a solid number, it gives me something to shoot for.

[RocketSniper]

Bump for "It's three days later, get those votes in!"

[Gollgagh]

I need votes.

You guys have three-ish more days to get your votes in.

If I don't get any votes in the next 24 hours, I'm gonna start harassing people.

[Zephyr]

I could vote twice if you like :razz:

[RocketSniper]

Next FLMC, we need to enact a couple of policies...

People that submit a song need to vote, or their song is disqualified (and/or loses ten points automatically)

People cannot vote for their own song.





Well, something like those, anyway.

[Gollgagh]

Well, I've gotten 6 votes so far.

I suppose that's okay, but I'd like at least a couple more.

We have one day (one hour, and 43 minutes) left of voting.


I could vote twice if you like :razz:

Nah, but if you could get someone else to vote, that'd be swell.

[Hylian Lemon]

Next FLMC, we need to enact a couple of policies...

People that submit a song need to vote, or their song is disqualified (and/or loses ten points automatically)

People cannot vote for their own song.
First place vote - 3 points
Second place vote - 2 points
Third place vote - 1 point
Entrants get 3 points for voting, to make up for the fact that they can't vote for themselves. Technically, you're voting for yourself and someone else for first place.

It works for PRC. All the entrants usually vote.

[RocketSniper]

First place vote - 3 points
Second place vote - 2 points
Third place vote - 1 point
Entrants get 3 points for voting, to make up for the fact that they can't vote for themselves. Technically, you're voting for yourself and someone else for first place.

It works for PRC. All the entrants usually vote.

Actually, that does make more sense... we don't want the people that just don't have free time (or suddenly run into a wall of work) and can't vote to not be eligible to win. In any case, our voting system needs to change a bit.

Edit: Bump for results, too.

[Dyne]

That system sounds like a very good idea. Though I think as a safety, you should give entrants a one-day window at the end of voting if they haven't actually voted. Send them a kind of form letter, asking them to vote. If you don't get a response within 24 hours, then they auto-drop. Simple as that. It might sound unfair, but so is not voting.

[Gollgagh]

Bump for results, too.

I'm a little busy right now, but I'll have them counted up by tomorrow evening at the latest.

[Gollgagh]

Aaaaaand folks, we have a winner:

Smenelian


The points were awarded as follows:
Smenelian: 19
Rocketsniper: 11
Sosadagr8: 10
Bundeslang: 6
DDRKirby(ISQ): 3


People's votes:

1rst
RocketSniper
Nice stuff with the second half indeed. oppressive and fast paced.

2nd
KirbyISQ
Short but that enough. Could be an intro for a club mix.

3rd
Smenelian.
Got a hard time between this and project metroid. the last part of the mix made by smenelian caught my ear so that's why.


First Place:
~Rocketsniper - Untitled~
Pretty awesome. Loved the insane percussion. Arrangement was great. Yeah.

Second Place:
~Smenelian - Smenelian Brinstar~
You definitely have 0:58 to 1:20 going for you. It was the coolest thing I've ever heard anyone do to that song. 2:10 severely reminded me of Metroid Prime Hunters. Never liked that game, but I love how that little piece sounds.

Third Place:
~sosadagr8 - projectmetroid~
Interesting. Arrangement was pretty cool, and especially unique at the beginning.


The results are in-
1st- Smenelian-Smenelian Brinstar
2nd- Sosadagr8-Project Metroid
3rd- RocketSniper-untitled

You'll find my write-ups in a post on the thread.
Thanks for organizing the competition I'm learning tons.


Votes from Bundeslang:
1st - Bundeslang (it's allowed to vote for yourself). Because he's the only one I don't see as a concurrent.
2nd - Smenelian - Nice beginning, I really like this. There are some weird notes around 1:15, but it's not killing the song. At the moment I was thinking (2:04) 'This needs more variation' some variation came, very good. But that's the only part. But sure a nice debute (if I'm correct you didn't before), I really liked the voice.
3rd - Sosadagr8 - Good start, nice sampling. I like the way you switched from the intro to Brinstar (Brinstar again). I don't like the after middle section part, which continued to the end.
4th - DDRKirby(ISQ) - Awesome beginning. I like the song, it's just...to short. I want more of this.
5th - RocketSniper - This starts a bit funny, I don't like the weird samples after the beginning, but the song is going well. There's a good balance in it. Some parts, like the part from 1:11-1:18 are a bit too 'silency', but I like the part after that. Good song, but I don't like all samples, some even hurts.

Not a bad FLMC.

(BTW: A double of voters is a bit heigh. I know from previous editions not many people vote for this, the last round only had 3 voters (and 3 songs))


Thought I'd chime in with my thoughts. :D I'm at work, so I can't spend a ton of time on this, but it looked like fun, so "what the hey?" says I.

First place:
~sosadagr8 - projectmetroid~
Pretty cool interpretation of the Crateria theme. Could've used better syncopation between the melody and the beat, but a cool idea nonetheless.

Second place:
~Smenelian - Smenelian Brinstar~
Pretty straightforward interpretation, which is cool; I can be something of a purist when it comes to VGM arrangements. Interesting choice of synths, though unfortunately not to my liking. Noticed some dissonance in the backing chords vs the melody, also not a fan.

Third place:
~DDRKirby(ISQ) - 3xOSC Supersaw~
I like this quite a bit...but it's too freakin' short.


Well, there you have it. :) Hooray for community participation! (I'm such a lurker).


I don't have access to FL at the moment so I'm going off of the mp3s only.

I'm not making these terribly detailed because I'm sick.

1st place-FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar
2nd place-RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled
3rd place-projectmetroid

lolzor award-DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw
win-Jazzeh

Bundeslang-FLMC7-RedItem_Master
Hooray for drum loop. You're playing around with a bunch of stuff, which is good, as you'll learn more that way. I said this last time probably, but learn to use the 3xOsc and make phat sounds, and then everything will be hella good. Also be wary of the fx you use and where/when you use them. Usually FX are used either...well, to provide some special effect at a breakdown, or to accentuate some transition in your song. So don't overuse them. They aren't melodic instruments. On that note, the next thing you need to work on is the melodic structure and content of your song. Get to know the basic elements of what makes a full mix - Bass, Pads/harmony, Lead, Drums, etc.

projectmetroid
I like the way this starts out, it's groovy...but then I don't really like how the mix essentially stays the same even through 0:26-0:47. The same drum loop and elements just get stale by then. Then it seems like you're trying to take off in some other direction when you bring the brinstar theme in, but it still doesn't really go anywhere, and man, that drum loop has been there forever now. It -is- possible to make a great song with minimal variation in drum patterns, but in this case it doesn't really work since there's not enough going on in terms of other melodic elements, so the drums really kind of stick out as being repetetive and stale. The mix overall stays very thin throughout, I would have liked to see some kind of changeup to something more driven. Gimme something, whether it be a phat bass patch, a distorted 303 synth, a blasting chorus with lead + pads + bass + drums, or a breakdown with only strings, or -something- other than the same drums + different melodies for over 3 minutes. Still, I liked the first 20 seconds.

FLMC7_Smenelian_Brinstar
IMHO I would have liked the intro better if you started with NO drums at very beginning. But what you did was cool too. Guitarage, cool cool. Slayer I'm guessing? Impressive. At 0:45 that "wah" synth really hits the spot, nice automation on the filter. Good variation on the drums with the little fills here and there, I can tell you put work into that. Then at 1:20 we go into half-time, which fits the melodic content quite nicely. The mix at that moment seems a little empty though, I would have liked something else to keep things moving, even if it is in halftime. Maybe a nice percussion riff or something. I dunno. Then we go back to your chorus at ~2:20. That's okay, but maybe add something a little different the second time around so that I'm not listening to -exactly- the same thing, especially since your arrangement is kind of light, so you can afford to spruce it up by adding some other element there. Doesn't have to be anything big, just something noticable.
Overall, first half hit the spot, second half didn't really bring anything new to the table.

DDRKirbyISQ_flmc7_3xOscSupersaw
This was meant to be a big chorus-type pattern in the middle of an actual song. Sorta. I don't really like how it ends. But whatever. Massive 3xOsc supersaws are neat. Some mixing work needed. Sounds kind of muddy.

RocketSniper_FLMC7_Untitled
Neat intro, that works. But wait, the drum samples that come in--the kick + clap, need some processing because it screams at me "noob FL samples". Neat transition into the more breakbeat section at 0:30, though I didn't really appreciate the synth at 0:22. The little dink FX at 0:38 kinda works, but kinda doesn't. I bet you could do better than that if you tried. Okay I'm at 1:00 and we've got the same thing going for a while, esp the drumloop with the same processing going on this whole time, I could use some variation, maybe some bass, something. Okay, fine, at 1:10 it looks like we're going somewhere, though, im starting to not like those drums at all anymore. Okay, fine, drums disappear...arp synth is nice, that's cool. This is building and I'm waiting for some real big chorus-like section now........or not. Ok fine, that works too. The synth stutter thing at 2:10 doesn't work for me. The initial stutter/stop was fine, then when you jumped into the new synth pattern it was kind of a rough transition for me. This next part is kinda interesting, that's cool how the melody/countermelody interact, okay I'm digging that.
Overall I would have liked more variation in terms of the mix as a whole. Then again, I seem to be making that same comment for the other pieces too. Maybe I just don't like your guys' thin arranging style. Then again, my piece is kind of cluttered. oh well.

Jazzeh
win.

[RocketSniper]

Did you not get my votes?

I don't think it changes the results much (Might put me in third, actually), but it still counts...

[Gollgagh]

You didn't want them posted, if I recall correctly.

[RocketSniper]

oh... I meant to post the vote (like first second and third), but not the little blurbs that went with 'em, because I had already posted reviews in the thread

In any case, congrats to Smnelian for first place :-o

[Bundeslang]

I see I, and everyone else, has some bonus points, otherwise I never could have more than 3 points (which I gave to myself). Congratulations to Smenelian, I liked your song the most. See you all next time, hopefully.

[Alex Smith]

Funny rule that. Abut being able to vote for yourself. lol.

[RocketSniper]

I see four extra votes for Smnelian, two for Bunde, and two for sosa.

Maybe they did count? Crap, I can't remember who I voted for.

[Smenelian]

Cool. Seems I made it somewhere on everyone's list (by the way, did my votes get counted?). I wasn't sure if I should have looped it or just cut it off after the first go around, because I ran out of time and couldn't come up with anything new. As everyone noticed, I decided to loop it.

I would prefer if the competitors didn't vote, but if hardly anyone votes to begin with, I suppose any vote is a good one.

[RocketSniper]

So when does 8 start? I'd like to get going with that :-P

[Gollgagh]

So when does 8 start? I'd like to get going with that :-P

When Smenelian decides what the theme of the next one is gonna be and extra packs and all that.


In the mean time, what do you guys think of reopening this to people with only the demo version of FL? I think one of the main reasons that the first FLMC was so popular was that anybody who had at least the demo version (which pretty much everybody does) could participate.

[Smenelian]

So I have the honor of deciding the theme of the next one...do I post it now and everything gets started right away? And about that sample pack, I can put together a new one, yes?

Honestly I never knew this was closed to people with the demo. I figure they would stand a lot less of a chance succeeding, but more entrants is always nice. Who will be running the next one anyway? Is that for the winner to do as well?

[Bundeslang]

So I have the honor of deciding the theme of the next one...do I post it now and everything gets started right away? And about that sample pack, I can put together a new one, yes?

Honestly I never knew this was closed to people with the demo. I figure they would stand a lot less of a chance succeeding, but more entrants is always nice. Who will be running the next one anyway? Is that for the winner to do as well?
It used to be, maybe you should discuss that with Gollgagh. If noone wants to do it you can always contact me, but I prefer someone else to do it.

I think it's a good idea to open it for DEMO users, the more participants, the better.

And yes, you can put together a new sample pack.

Good luck.

[Gollgagh]

Well, see people started demanding that people submit their flp's and since the demo can't do that people probably assumed that you have to have the full version for the competition. We'll just make it explicit next time that they can enter.

I don't mind too much running it myself again, since I generally don't disappear for weeks on end like other people are wont to do.

[Zephyr]

Cool. Seems I made it somewhere on everyone's list (by the way, did my votes get counted?). I wasn't sure if I should have looped it or just cut it off after the first go around, because I ran out of time and couldn't come up with anything new. As everyone noticed, I decided to loop it.

I would prefer if the competitors didn't vote, but if hardly anyone votes to begin with, I suppose any vote is a good one.
I wish we had the popularity to be able to do that, but from the looks of it, only people who participate in the contest are interested enough in it to vote. But I think that the write-ups everyone does is great for making everyone better.

Maybe if anyone eventually does something good enough, (although fat chance of that due to time restrictions) somebody could get a mix started in the competition onto OCR then bring some interest to the competition.

We can always dream.

Congrats smenelian!

[RocketSniper]

You mean like this (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01475/)?

[Smenelian]

Well, see people started demanding that people submit their flp's and since the demo can't do that people probably assumed that you have to have the full version for the competition. We'll just make it explicit next time that they can enter.


I see. Now that I think about it, it makes sense that they can't export a zipped flp like the rest of us...otherwise that would be an interesting loophole in the program.

The feedback people give is indeed great. Makes it seem more worthwhile that way as opposed to just voting and not writing anything extra.

For the next theme, I was thinking we could show Kirby's Block Ball some love. Music from that game has gotten stuck in my head on more than one occasion. Awesome game too. I've got some samples ready to go as well. Should I email them to someone to take care of the uploading or what?

[Gollgagh]

Go ahead and send it here: OCR.FLMC@gmail.com

[Gollgagh]

Okay, so I got the pack, and you want to do Kirby's Block Ball, right?

I'll have the site set up for FLMC8 this next weekend.

[Smenelian]

Yes, that's right. I look forward to hearing what people will do with KBB music.