OCR00948 - Chrono Trigger 'Enter the Frog'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[Luca Blight]

It's not really anything i'd give a second listen to. But that's my music taste

I just want a solid orchestral arrangement of Frog's theme *sighs*

[Zetasphere]

Hm, it's pretty nice, I like it. It has a very soothing, ambient flavor. Somehow the main melody is a bit off place when you've heard the original. Makes you think "cheesy parody." It sounds more like normal Melodic Trance than Hard Trance or Techno. I don't exactly know why, but it's pretty irritating to listen to with head phones, the panning's sorta strange. So much to my opinion..

[Daltonius Sigma]

i think JJT did a really great job on this one, i thought it could've used a heavier bass line, but i'm a trance fan, i really liked this track. It was smooth, and kept true. I liked the snare finish, wicked job. Glenn's theme was my #1 on the Chrono soundtrack, i'm really glad to have heard such a good remake, i'd also like to add the sword effect at the start really grabs a listener's attention (got mine) and the flute was beautiful below a 9/10 is insulting to this track.

[Kureejii Lea]

Hey, this is cool. Very melodic and trancey, which I didn't initially think would work at all with the particular track... JTT did an excellent job of reinterpreting the theme. It's rather subtle, but not so much as to be completely ignored and forgotten in the background as you listen to it. When I saw the mention of a froggy's ribbit, I was a little worried that it'd be blantantly used (I'm not a huge fan of voice clips and sound effects in songs...), but it's well-incorperated and doesn't seem out of place in the least. Nicely done.

[xamgis]

this was cool...i think it had a melodic balance to it...Frog's Theme itself was integrated nicely...it wasn't an in your face thumpin' techno...more like a laid back and chill out kind of feel...gives you a sense of what the real "frog" was like...reserved...yet seen as a figure of importance...

[sgx]

From the start, I'm liking the sounds used in this. Nice, chill, atmospheric. I don't really like the amount of panning used in this song though. I think it would have been good and not annoying if the stuff wasn't panned out so far. This is recorded a bit too quietly also. Maybe coulda used some more treble in the final mix. I like the section at 2:42; the bassline gets moving faster and some snare stuff is happening. Adds some nice energy. In general, this is pretty sweet! Nice job. Nice sounds.

[Teknobunny]

hey jiggin, this song owns my fucking face. i hope i can expect to see more of your music here in the future.

[Ingonyama]

This song OWNS. I'm always up for new remixes of Glenn's theme, and this one gives you more of an idea of what his character's supposed to be like. The song is very smooth and flowing without being "slow," and that takes a lot to do. The croaking is very well-meshed with the rest of the song, as is the sword-slash sound effect. Me likey! :D

[SsaiskK]

ooh man that *shwing* sfx gave me the shivers. it was sooo good. song itself... sounding pretty good. i just wish the bassline fit better at :40, sounds a little ehh for a couple seconds. ive always liked the frog theme, so this is a plus ;) egh 1:49 it happens again. bassline clash (is it just me? haha i guess...) haha 3:09 was fun. i woulda liked a bigger pause though... overall, its a nice fun piece.

[JJT]

Thanx for the feedback guys 8)
For those of you who brought up panning issues: I'm still a bit of a newb when it comes to mixing, so when I first submitted this mix, everything was panned down the center (i forgot to take that into account). It got rejected (Disco Dan gave me a resounding "meh.") When I overhauled the mix, i guess i overcompensated slightly, and panned everything too far over. Oh well, i'm learning :roll:

[Akuen]

Well, I don't really like this.. I like the start, it's smooth. but when you begin with some of the crashes, well, doesn't fit in.
I don't think the effects are, the croaking and the slash sounds, sound pretty good, the quality of the effects is just not as good as the rest and that ruins it all. But I must say, altough I don't like the coraking effect, it's pretty good mixed in with the rest of the music in the last park of the peice :)
I think the break is too suddenly, and the music starts too suddenly again.
Sorry if I trashed you JJT.
anyways, it's nice to see more Frog Theme ReMixes because it's so popular.

[Lord Star]

GIVE ME MORE. this is the kind of thing I look for when i come to OCR. something that i can have in the backround while i work or play. Good job. there were some problems with it, but by the time the song was over, I had forgotten what they were. it flows well, but the ending was a little weak.

[Andrew]

It is a good background mix. I noticed some Wind Scene in the middle of the piece, which made the song a good bit more pleasant. It is quite a coincidence that the same day this was accepted, I had just finished a piano arrangement of Frog's Theme (available here (http://www.squaresound.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=21508)). You did a decent job. :)

[Zeenbor]

This is great work music! I can code for hours with this! CT is also my favorite game so I guess that factors in too. :D

[Akuen]

I must say, after I played this a couple of times, I like it better

[The_Clover]

*drools*
Frog's Theme...my favorite character from that game.

And what better to go with my love for Frog than a fantastic remix of his Theme from the game. JigginJonT, you rock. This piece was great, though at 2:15 it seemed like it would lead up to a really strong part in the remix, but it seemed to be underplayed a bit. It still sounded beautiful. This whole piece sort of gives off a feel of 'I can kill you very easily without breaking a sweat' hence why the music never builds up to a hard hitting point. Alot like frog.

This song kicks ass, Bruce Lee style.

[The Berserk Fury]

This is great work music! I can code for hours with this! CT is also my favorite game so I guess that factors in too. :D

Well not my kind of music the only real part i liked was the flute. But even thou i dontlike this you did a greatjobon it.

[Rowan]

It was awesome. It had all the little frog noises and stuff, and the actual song fit in techno. I luvvvvvv the song. It's one of my faaaaaavrits :D

[Fray]

I surfed over to this one after hearing a Magnetman Ska WIP of JJT's, and I sense that this guy has more than his share of musical creativity.

I found this mix to be pretty enjoyable. Yeah there's a few issues here and there (already been mentioned), but there's a lot of wonderful things too. One is that it pulls off the Frog theme in techno :P

I love that phat bass sound in the intro. Very nice. And the sword-drawing SFX is pure genius. Things get a little muddy around 2:30, but maybe that was intentional. Regardless, they pick up pretty soon after that. I agree with SGX, the top end is kinda hard to hear in this one; the whole mix sounds kinda boomy -- this means the mid-lowrange frequencies are probably overemphasized. I SO dig those running square wave arpeggios that start around 3:35. They kinda remind me of metroid for some reason. Total opposite of what you'd expect to hear during Frog's theme, and yet the fit perfectly.

Good stuff.

[kidman295]

I really enjoy listening to "Enter The Frog"! I like it very well. 8)

[Toxic Soul]

This is actually one of my favourite mixes on the site. The "fwip-fwap" drums (as I refer to them) in the opening I wasn't too keen on, but after listening to it a few times, they fit, and the trancy builds are just fantastic. I love how that sounds. It just gives the power that Frog should have.

The Frog croaking is clever, and although it's hard to hear sometimes, it does add a bit of a theme to the mix. I really like this mix. A lot. The background really gives the theme support, as opposed to some mixes I hear where it just seems to be separate melodies. This one really combines to be a powerful mix.

Excellent.

[dethgrwl]

This is definatly nothing for me. I find it disgusting to make such a nonesense remix of such a good original. It's like the technocovers of für elise...

[Dhsu]

It's like the technocovers of für elise...
Wha? Where?! I must have these.

[dethgrwl]

I won't spread hypocrisy...

[EvilRyu38]

I dont know what this fool is talking about, but however This is my favorite theme from CT and I think you did an above average job.. Just because music is in the past part of the game, does not mean it has to be piano...

8/10

[bouncerboy15]

This is alright. It has Frog's theme and well...yeah. 9/10.

[emilionewman]

This song is tight! The frog ribbits deserve extra bonus points too. I wouldn't have thought of Frog's Theme as techno, but it comes out nicely. 9/10

[Krendall]

Not bad, not bad. I downloaded the song hoping it was an arrangement of the Frog Theme, but found out it was a techno remix. Still a decent and original remix. Just wish someone would do an arrangement.

[Clockwork Dolphin]

Despite my undying love for Frog's theme, this mix isn't really exciting. I like the arrangement, and the occasional frog sound is a nice touch. It sounds like Frog gave blood, and he's doing techno but not feeling too well and needs to sit down. The melody lines are a bit to far back in the mix with the synth driving the melody soft in the first place. The life of the mix doesn't really match the beat or the enthusiasm of Frog's melody. That said, the structure of the song is refreshing and the arrangement well done.

Feels like an average Chrono Trigger remix, where someone likes CT and likes techno / trance but doesn't have a strong direction for the song.

[Mkdog2002]

I have downloaded the song, and I feel that it took Frog's theme from Chrono Trigger to a different level than ever before. It is a great piece, and I even burned it to a CD, so I can listen to it in my car. My favorite part, when the music stopsfor a brief second, then you hear "ribbit".

[analyticalchemist]

It's not bad. It's weird on headphones definitely agreed, but I think it's kind of unique. Backdrifts...that Radiohead song, kinda rhythmically like that.

[lkoro]

This is a pretty good remix. Not something that I can listen to more than a few times a week though. I love the frog croak though, I found it awesome for some reason.

[Nintendo-GuRu]

I'm a huge CT fan, and I think this remix did Frog's song no justice. His original song was majestic, and triumphant, and every remix I've heard just lays down his track like it's a mudmix. You did have some good effects, the song itself wasn't bad, it just didn't give the justice to Frog's song.

[Bobwillis]

This song is fantastic if you relax and take it for what it is. Actually, you should do that with any music that's out there.

This song is much easier to appreciate after a few listens.

About the song not doing frogs theme justice, this song, like the others on this site, are remixing the original melodies, and by doing so (i.e. changing tempo, beat, progression, a few notes, instruments) change the ideas that are conveyed by the melody.

You shouldn't go into any remix on this site and expect the same thing you felt when listening to the original midi. Some remixes lend themselves to the same ideas and emotions that were originally intended by the composers of the melodies more than others.

Get over that and your bias coming into the remix and you'll appreciate what these people are doing more and have a more enjoyable time yourself.


edit: I just read djp's comment on this, and you prolly should too. It's basically what I just wrote, like 3 years prior :P .

[Baruch, Vampire Lord]

I agree with Luca Blight. I want to find an orchestral version of this song. But I digress...

It was a good remix. I agree that you should not compare the original to the remix. However I believe that the music should have the same spirit as the original, just a different body. You can quote me on that. Anyway, I disagree with Nintendo Guru. This song plays to the low key depressed aspect of the song. When I hear the remix I think of the scenes were Frog has flashbacks about Cyrus. It's depressing. All they need now is a remix depicted the triumphant Frog who drew the Masamune and opened the magical cave. This remix scores a solid 9/10.

And admit it. Frog was the real main character. Him and Magus. I say the worst part of the game was that Frog and Magus didn't share any doubletechs. So what if they were enemies!

[Zero_]

This has slowly become onf of my favourite remixes on the site. It's very mellow and cool. 9/10 from me.

PS: I too want an orchestrated version of Frog's Theme :D

[BeanbagSkratchbob]

argh! the left panning! my ear!

[Eclipse_Wargod]

Uhh.. Ok then.. Left Panning..yes... anyway.. i Though it was pritty good. Its a Light song with some deep moments.. Worth almost getting GROUNDED for being up past 12 AM on the computer wrighting this review. All in all i give it a:

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(9/10)

[LupusCanis]

Although I would have prefered an orchestral version of Frog's Theme, this is definitely still a very, very good remix. I'd recommend it.

[Bummerdude]

Enter the matrix..NO! >slap< Enter the frog, the frog, sorry.

Now, hrrm..this is totally a great techno, the frog melody really does fit in that funky synth JigginJonT managed to dig up. My favorite part began at first when that little more guitarish synth came onto the scene at 0:54, that one was awesome, and that nice flute at 1:34 was the same, gave this mix a character that not many would refuse to download to their computer.

Totally liked those strings beggining at 2:15 too. Eh, screw it all, I liked evrything in this mix. Ribbit.

Don´t be afraid...enter the matrix.>SLAP!< >SLAP!<

[DrNeedlove]

The intro is nice, mellow, mysterious on what will soon come. The sword at :025 is a nice touch. The familiar theme comes in. Then out of somewhere soem techno esqu beats come in, nice. The mix blends well and continues through out the song. 1:33, the pan flute works well. The music change at 2:14 is done nicely. This is a nice take on a classic melody Rock on man!

[DragonFireKai]

I love the sound of the Masamune being drawn at 0:25, that really screams Frog. It's the little details like that that separate this mix from the countless other techno mixes out there.

[Marmiduke]

I had trouble enjoying this mix, for the simple reason that it just wasn't strong enough. It has no gravity to it, and I didn't feel any sort of pull. OCR is flooded with trance, and this is by no means the worst trance I've ever heard, but it did come across sub-par for me.
For starters, the softness, whether intentional or unintentional, is counterproductive to whatever the mix is trying to convey. The elements that count are obscured by senseless fog, and things a presented very dull as a result.
Secondly, the strength of the main melody is a little hit and miss throughout. There are some very rich sections that have some interesting arranging and creative stuff in here, but there was a lack of cohesion between all the seperate areas for me. Everything seems very spaced out and lacking in relationship with another; the opposite of what trance should be about.
This mix does hint at promise and inventive music, but it gets bogged down by a case of flat delivery, sadly. I'm a big fan of JigginJonT, although you probably wouldn't know it from what I've just been rambling about. Needless to say, I think he has improved leaps and bounds from this mix, and continues to do so.

[JJT]

Needless to say, I think he has improved leaps and bounds from this mix, and continues to do so.
That makes two of us.

[OA]

It's a cool arrangement, but the production choices aren't doing it any favors. We all know that JJT is way better now, so the mixing on this one can keep him humble. I certainly feel that way about some of my earlier mixes. ;-)

The variation on the theme is really nice, though, and the build to the frog croak was pretty sweet as well.

It has it's strengths and weaknesses, but overall it's enjoyable to listen to. Also, reading the judges decisions on this one really show that it's not just the mixers who have come a long way; I bet the judges now wish they could get away with a single sentence and then a 'yes' or 'no'. ;-)

[tweek]

Awesome opening synth! The delayed/echo bass is pretty cool. THe shaker percussion is nice. I wasn't a huge fan of the first lead synth as the attack was a little slow for the part, but that's minor. The bass drum is thumping, but mellow at the same time. I really like the plucked string in the left side.

I get the idea of the juxtaposition of the rhythmic backing synths verses the slower attacking lead synths/strings. Wit a slower lead line, I think it would have worked a lot better. However, the ambience of the track is fantastic. Considering Jon did this 7 years ago, it's quite good!