View Full Version : OCR00949 - Shinobi III 'Whirlwind (Gale Force Mix)'
djpretzel
03-14-2003, 05:08 AM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.
Joe Redifer
03-14-2003, 09:26 AM
First of all, Yuzo Koshiro is not the original composer of Shinobi III. The only Shinobi's Yuzo worked on was Revenge of Shinobi and the two Game Gear Shinobi's. That's it. He had nothing to do with the original (or any incarnation of it on a home system), nothing to do with Shadow Dancer (arcade or home versions, which were completely different), Shinobi III, the Saturn Shinobi (Ug) nor Shinobi for the PS2. Not sure why that bothers me so much. Glad to have that off my chest. Oh well life goes on:
Anyway, on to the ReMix. Definitely nice sounds and a nice interpretation of the best tune from the game. I still enjoy listening to the Genesis original more, though. The only way I think that could be improved is with better sounding instruments but with the same construction of the tune. Hopefully someone will prove me wrong someday. But if you want a slightly slowed down multi-genre version of "the good tune" from Shinobi III, then this you want this!
Rayza
03-14-2003, 11:16 AM
I couldn't find the composer of this song so I assumed it was Yuzo, sorry Joe..
Also, before anyone calls me a hack or a cheat, I know the opening trance synths sound VERY similar to a certain Rank 1 tune. I had repeated listening of said tune a few years ago when it was big and it stuck in my head all this time I guess. When I went to write this song, I subconciously wrote bascially the same line that was in the other tune. Even when I played it back I was thinking, "This seems familiar" but I couldn't put my finger on it.
When I posted it to the WIP forum some others were quick to inform me where it was from and it all came back to me. In other words, I didn't mean to or know I was borrowing notes from other songs until afterwards. Hopefully I don't get shot for this. :)
Fo Shizzle
03-14-2003, 12:51 PM
Wow. This sounds REALLY nice. Reminds me a lot of Heaven by DJ Sammy or whoever that dude is. Anyways, nice work.
Beatdrop
03-14-2003, 08:01 PM
I heard this while it was still a WIP thanks to Rayza sending it to me in #ocremix.
As far as this remix goes, I've said it once and I'll say it again: Rayza rocks.
AnotherOneBitesTheDust
03-14-2003, 10:39 PM
2:02-2:17 is my favorite part because it sounds SO much like Rayza's trademark-ish sound that I absolutely love.
Don't really know what else to say except...I don't mind techno as long as there is a good melody present, which this has a little repetition on, but is enjoyable and good nonetheless. Besides that I'd have to say this mix is worth it just for 2:02-2:17.
LegendarySword
03-15-2003, 12:41 AM
I heard this piece when it was WIP as well, found it on the boards. I've enjoyed the tune ever since. Nice to have fast and slow paces all throughout the song. I'm no expert, but I still like what I hear.
Argitoth
03-15-2003, 01:11 AM
Wow man, AWSOME REMIX!!! I wish I had your skills. I will one day... Just not now.
I loved it from begginning to end. But the worst part is that it ended. I wish it went on for eternity and I could dance to it forever. Sadly, no song lasts forever. Uh, actually I wouldn't have enough energy for that. Great Remix, Great Song... Great
Note: I've never heard of this game, I just love music. I love music I love.
Aureolius
03-15-2003, 03:25 AM
I think you have accomplished a very difficult feat by fusing the classic chipset-sounding synth into an electronic song while preserving the professional and mainstream sound.
I am not a professional when it comes to electronic music genres, because quite frankly, there are hundreds. This sounds more like club or house to me.
Genre is not important though. It sounds great man. I love it.
Stifu
03-16-2003, 10:03 AM
Also, before anyone calls me a hack or a cheat, I know the opening trance synths sound VERY similar to a certain Rank 1 tune. I had repeated listening of said tune a few years ago when it was big and it stuck in my head all this time I guess. When I went to write this song, I subconciously wrote bascially the same line that was in the other tune. Even when I played it back I was thinking, "This seems familiar" but I couldn't put my finger on it.
When I posted it to the WIP forum some others were quick to inform me where it was from and it all came back to me. In other words, I didn't mean to or know I was borrowing notes from other songs until afterwards. Hopefully I don't get shot for this. :)
Haha... Yeah, right.
That stroke me the 1st time I listened to your mix...
It's very similar to Awakening from Rank 1.
Not that it's a bad thing, I love both that music and your remix. 8)
Keep up the good work.
neostormx
03-18-2003, 07:44 PM
It happens to me too.. i often find myself composing something that i already heard, and i scrap it or store it in the private cover bin.
Btw, I knew the melody when i heard it, however this is a remix and i loved how you mixed the 2 together. Very nice work!
EDIT: Btw, i cant stop listening to this tune.
I wanna know if you could tell me what was used as the main synth.. i love than main lead. it reminds me of a lot of music compo intro's i used to hear.
Rayza
03-21-2003, 11:10 AM
It was just a lead I made up in Reason, nothing fancy.. A lot of my stuff is inspired by the euro-demo tracking scene from the mid 90's.. Guys like Elwood especially have influenced the way I write stuff..
soursurfer
03-23-2003, 02:51 PM
While I myself cannot create music worth a darn, I know a good tune when I hear one. The genre swapping is used really well to build-up, and then break-down the melody. The two different moods in the piece are almost complete opposites, yet you managed to transition between them incredibly smoothly. Hats off to you for creating this mix.
Rapyer2986
04-10-2003, 05:38 PM
As probably stated before, I was never musically gifted. To hear a great piece from my favorite Shinobi game is like a blessing. The genre swap is was really impressed me. I wish I could hear more mixes from this game...
Rapyer2986
04-10-2003, 05:43 PM
Loved it!!! This is so smooth... still bobbing the head. Keep it coming! "I stare at the stars in the sky up above..." Hell, mother even loves it!
Atomic Dog
04-10-2003, 05:47 PM
I fell in love with this track from the outset. It does a good job of allowing me to close my eyes and visualize the game as it plays. That's always the mark of a really stellar remix.
It kind of makes me want to revert to age 18, do some amphetamines, and dance with hot chicks.
Speaking of dancing, I have caught myself dancing to this song while I'm doing the dishes and stuff.
Anything that can evoke that kind of reaction gets an A+ in my book. Great job.
Dougzee
04-10-2003, 06:41 PM
Excellent mix of an excellent track. Great job.
-Doug
rodtod
05-21-2003, 06:44 AM
Upon hearing Star Salzman's Incredible Singing Robot, the melody struck me as oddly familiar. I did some browsing in my media library, and sure enough, the trance segment of Rayza's Whirlwind is very much like the melody of Robo's theme. Cool and weird at the same time. 8)
NeoLutherus
06-08-2003, 06:39 PM
This is my favorite reMix so far here! I love the soft music that it starts with and the slow buildup to the part where it has a jump where the bass kicks in and REALLY starts to build up, and the choice of which level's music to ReMix couldnt have been better. This is also one of my all time favorite games to boot, and the music just brought back fond memories of playing this game. :D I havent played it in so long, but I could tell what level the music was from right away, even though it has a lot of great new additions to the music too. Great job, Rayza! There should definitley be more Shinobi 3 ReMix's available.
GrayLightning
06-26-2003, 04:56 AM
This is very smooth. I love the vibe of this mix, in part helped by the great instrument selection. Nice change of pace from Rayza's more agressive mixes. I think, this just may be my favorite of his. Great work.
DarkWolf
07-11-2003, 01:36 PM
An excelent remix. At first I didn't like it too much, but after listening to it for a few times it grew on me.
esden9
12-12-2003, 06:56 AM
This is still one of the best remixes ever.
Shinobi 3. Great game! I liked this stuff. Is a good trance for who likes Shinobi. Rayza has talent, "club del toro" is your best remix. Nice work!
NewTypeOne
02-14-2005, 12:43 AM
O_O...*drool*... omg, I love this remix. *bows to rayza*
Pip is uh.....
03-11-2005, 04:46 AM
Nice. Its got a real groove to it. This is Rayza at his best. The peice just flows well together and is an excellent retooling of the original peice. Good stuff!
Prophet65
09-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Shinobi 3 has been my favourite game of all time on the Mega Drive (Genesis) but after reading the other threads and listening to the song a few times more I agree its a damn fine piece but I cant relate to it in any way like the original.
I have an emulator and I have the rom (Yes I own the actual cartridge and still have the Mega Drive (Genesis) lying around somewhere) and I started to listen to original again and the second you hear the original's beginning gives a totaly different feeling to the remix, just makes you want to jump up and dance.
I understand its just that... a remix but would have like to see a fast rock beat simliar to the original other than that, for all intents and purposes if I have never heard the original... awesome remix! :D
This is friendly criticism no offence intended.
Prophet65
Liontamer
09-23-2005, 02:59 PM
Can't think of why I didn't comment on this other than the fact that I don't frequent ReViews too often. But I remember back when this came out that Protricity felt this was Rayza's best work here so far, and I definitely agree with that, though it's a close call now with Sonik Electronik out there.
In any case, the thing I appreciated the most was how skillfully Hayden mixed in the source tune with his own original ideas. The new material was worked in so seamlessly that I was surprised to listen to the original later and realize that some of the stuff in there wasn't derived from the game soundtrack. Always a good listen after a couple of years.
Vertigo88
04-23-2006, 05:10 PM
Shinobi III was the best Sega Genesis game of all time, in my opinion. Thanks for a great memory revamped!
Starting with a chill epiano, I was thinking I had accidentally clicked the wrong remix- this doesn't sound like a gale force to me. Then it shifts to a catchy syncopated riff, and then has an extended cliffhanger.
Big opening, and the mix is really underway. This is well produced, but really what makes this mix great is the interplay between the sections. The builds are good, and though the beats are a little standard, but workable, and the synths are great.
Once it hits the end and all the themes mesh together is where the mix really shines. Fantastic stuff all around; this track made me download the .gym for Shinobi 3. Highly recommended. :-)
Marmiduke
06-26-2009, 10:42 AM
Every Rayza remix I listen to lately ends with me saying: "That's the most Rayza mix ever." And this was no exception.
The thing I like about Rayza is that he takes a genre of music that allows for repetition and lack of progression, but goes against that and offers incredible variation and hooks galore.
What is achieved is the signature high wall-of-sound that we all expect, but with surprisingly touching elements woven in. It all travels so fluently that the fast-slow, rollercoaster-like structure flies over you. It's probably the easiest Rayza mix to just sit back to, and forget you are listening to meticulously remixed videogame music. That's a pretty cool thing to be able to pull off.
esden9
03-29-2010, 10:38 AM
Dr. Luke damned near yanked this hook for Tik Tok. =P
TheCorty
11-15-2010, 03:35 AM
A 2003 remix!? Not freakin' bad. Good, catchy stuff with seemless, exciting transitions indeed. Much better than stuff I hear on the radio nowadays, yet more than half of it's in the same genre XD
Liontamer
07-05-2011, 02:49 PM
Haha, that's Rank 1 alright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qxFW6aJhY#t=0m46s
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