Street Fighter IV

[SoloGamer]

I still play this semi-regularly on X360
Let me know if anyone wants to play a non-lariat mashing Zangief for a change.

[Cassanova]

I still play this semi-regularly on X360
Let me know if anyone wants to play a non-lariat mashing Zangief for a change.

I JUST lost to one five minutes ago. Completely unavoidable when you're M.Bison and every move you try gets stuffed on a laggy masher. :(

[Jam Stunna]

My PS3 screenname is JamStunna.

I play a grab-happy Chun Li.

[SoloGamer]

I JUST lost to one five minutes ago. Completely unavoidable when you're M.Bison and every move you try gets stuffed on a laggy masher. :(
Bison eh? In that case, you'd have to deal with my jumping headbutt spam.

[Cassanova]

lol That's far less of an issue than getting camped by lariat. Gief drives me insane, though. It doesn't matter if you're brain dead or god's gift, I still have to work overtime to not get demolished.

[Jam Stunna]

What about spamming high kick? Bison's is pretty similar to Chun Lis, and if I time it right I can hit them right at the end of it pretty safely.

[Cassanova]

If the Gief is rocking lariat spam I just devil's reverse spam right back. It keeps me safe, does the same amount of damage as a roundhouse and generates meter regardless of it I hit the guy or not. You gotta be 100% attentive even if the guy is a simpleton. One botched advance and you end up eating SPD off a whiff.

[Broken]

Yo, Sologamer, have you done Zangief's ultra as a counter to akuma's raging demon ultra before? It's the coolest thing to listen to.

Akuma: "Prepare Yourself!"
Zangief: "FOR MOTHER RUSSIA"

And then akuma gets hit by a massive spd, lol.

My friend was so positive that you couldn't do this, but we tested it out pretty thoroughly in training mode. I haven't been as lucky with countering akuma's regular raging demon, though.

[Jam Stunna]

It's good to know that another ultra can counter that. I was thinking of trying to counter it with Chun's just for the hell of it.

Anyone here play Championship mode? I love it, and I play it all the time.

[SoloGamer]

Yo, Sologamer, have you done Zangief's ultra as a counter to akuma's raging demon ultra before? It's the coolest thing to listen to.

That's awesome. Didn't realize that was possible. I usually trigger Akuma's ultra by jumping over their fireballs, which I respond to by mashing HP.
I'll keep that in mind, after some practice in training mode.


Anyone here play Championship mode? I love it, and I play it all the time.
It's the only mode I play. Currently sitting on about 5k GP. I usually lose in the first or second match, so I'll probably be there for a while.

[BardicKnowledge]

I'm still playing a decent Chun on the 360 -- find me on IRC if you want to play me (or send me an invite when I'm dicking around w/ Bionic Commando).

[Jam Stunna]

It's the only mode I play. Currently sitting on about 5k GP. I usually lose in the first or second match, so I'll probably be there for a while.

Yeah, same here. Sometimes people play pretty gayly to get that GP, but overall it's great. I'm getting close to 6,000 GP, but I've had a bad run the last few days.

[Cassanova]

Everyone in Championship Mode that I've played runs away and plays like a bitch. I'm at 13K and they still do it. I plug in my 360 to play SF4 not tag.

[Arek the Absolute]

Everyone in Championship Mode that I've played runs away and plays like a bitch. I'm at 13K and they still do it. I plug in my 360 to play SF4 not tag.

I absolutely hate that. I am around 3k for this reason.

G2 is all about turtle ryus, spammy zangiefs, and really shitty sagats.

[DiggiDis]

Man .. As soon as I came in the G2 section .. I knew the fun would dissappear.

I still don't understand people playing Guile called me a corner sitting Ken.
Bastards. I'm all up in your face while these so called 'pro' charge character assholes do nothing but sit in the corner waiting for you to attack.

I'd play a Ryu, Ken or Akuma anytime over these people.

Let alone stand the Bison Jump on your Neck > Slash down > Slide > press repeat. Now that's skill. AssJeebs. If they would play guitar with the other hand while doing those moves maybe. Snaps.

[Jam Stunna]

I don't mind the gayness, because that's inevitable. What I do mind is people who rely on lag. I played an Akuma that got a perfect on me by doing nothing but throwing fireballs because the lag was SOOOOOO bad. I always avoid people with less than two bars, but this guy had two bars and it was still unbearable.

I swear, some people have a switch at their house to lag when they want to. It's the only way to explain it.

[Cassanova]

Less than three bars is far safer. 2 bars is asking for murder. Even with three bars links are a pain to get off, especially if you got someone mashing on the other end.

[Arek the Absolute]

cassanova, we should do some friendlies later

Also, last three game today in a g2 tourny earlier:

First game - Akuma

air fireball spam -> teleport to other side of the screen.

That is all he did. 14k player and that is what he did. Jeez

Second game - Ryu

What a fucking turtle. Was the most annoying shit I have ever played against. Didn't advance to me a single time

Third game - Sagat

tiger tiger tiger tiger lagspike tiger tiger tiger lagspike ti spike ger

[Cassanova]

I'm down for some friendlies. I need the practice against chun big time.

[DJ Mighty]

i finally got back into the game after being gone for a month. i went from 1500 to 900. What is really annoying are most of the matches i lost i should have won. I either did a "Canon Spike" instead or a "drill" or fucked doing something else that set me up for an Ultra or something else that cost me the match. Also i forgot how unbalanced Ultras are. Cammys Ultra does not do as much damage as Kens. Kens is retarded. So is Akumas, its basically half your bar. I still hate Sagat players the most. I did a championship mode and lost in the finals. Then i went back and got my rank back up to 1200. It was a fustrating/fun experience. Which is pretty much what SF is about.

[Cassanova]

Ken's ultra has to hit point blank and Akuma's is pretty much avoidable unless someone skilled is using Akuma. You can combo Cammy's ultra into a grip of situations and has range. However you are playing a low stamina character so I can't really compare damage.

[BardicKnowledge]

Ken's ultra has to hit point blank and Akuma's is pretty much avoidable unless someone skilled is using Akuma. You can combo Cammy's ultra into a grip of situations and has range. However you are playing a low stamina character so I can't really compare damage.

None of the console exclusive characters (except Gouken, and Gen's AA ultra) will do their entire Ultra animation off of a mid-air connection. This hurts both Fei and Cammy a ton, as they are only getting fractions of what a full ultra would do.

[Cassanova]

Cammy's ultra is front loaded anyways. The last hit is practically superficial. It's far more beneficial to combo her ultra than it would be to save it for full effect. Fei's damage comes off of the third(or fourth, not sure) rekka, his ultra being most damaging in the final part.

[zircon]

Right, but the problem with Fei is that you can't GET those unless you set up with a focus first. There's literally no way to set up the ultra otherwise.

[DarkeSword]

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[Cassanova]

Right, but the problem with Fei is that you can't GET those unless you set up with a focus first. There's literally no way to set up the ultra otherwise.

And while I cry for Fei there are several characters whose only set up for ultra is FADCxxUltra. DJ was a Cammy player, hence my attention to that fact.

[ProjectJusticeX]

tiger tiger tiger tiger lagspike tiger tiger tiger tiger

hey who found out about my secret strategy

[DJ Mighty]

Ken's ultra has to hit point blank and Akuma's is pretty much avoidable unless someone skilled is using Akuma. You can combo Cammy's ultra into a grip of situations and has range. However you are playing a low stamina character so I can't really compare damage.

admittitly i walked into Kens Ultras a few times because i screwed up doing something else, but the damage was still insane. You're right about Akuma.

I finally broke out the SF4 controller i picked up. Going to give practice with it a while and see how it is.

[SoloGamer]

I just played a Zangief mirror match in the second match of a Championship

And by mirror, I don't just mean we both picked Gief and went at it. I mean, he literally mirrored every moved I made. The whole thing was just us spinning, jumping, and taunting until time ran out.

I feel bad having won though. I hit him a couple times before I realized what was going on in the first round, but he never attacked me when I walked into him, so I guess it's all cool

[Cassanova]

Too bad it wasn't a final. I'd pay money to see that.

[Little_Bill]

Speaking of Fei, I've seen a really nasty Fei player on youtube just busting out those FADC combos. I find that many underrated characters are dubbed lower tiered if not played well. Shows how much tier trees are BS :)

[Jam Stunna]

Speaking of Fei, I've seen a really nasty Fei player on youtube just busting out those FADC combos. I find that many underrated characters are dubbed lower tiered if not played well. Shows how much tier trees are BS :)

Well, that's kind of the point. Low tier characters aren't low because their terrible necessarily, but because it's harder to be good with them. SF 4 is pretty balanced, but it's definitely easier to win with some characters as opposed to others.

[zircon]

And while I cry for Fei there are several characters whose only set up for ultra is FADCxxUltra. DJ was a Cammy player, hence my attention to that fact.

I'm pretty sure Cammy can land her ultra off a standard FA or even after an opponent's jumpin. Fei sucks :(

[Cassanova]

While I don't know why you wouldn't dash in after any focus attack, several characters have the same problem, including Cammy. Chun, Cammy, Rog, and Fei all juggle the target if you don't dash in. Other characters miss hits but still land the ultra, like Sagat and Bison. Any character with a cut scene off the first hit are given the full ultra (Honda, Sakura, Fuerte etc.) Cammy DOES land her ultra after a jump in, however, unlike fei who juggles unless they hit the ground completely.

[BardicKnowledge]

While I don't know why you wouldn't dash in after any focus attack, several characters have the same problem, including Cammy. Chun, Cammy, Rog, and Fei all juggle the target if you don't dash in. Other characters miss hits but still land the ultra, like Sagat and Bison. Any character with a cut scene off the first hit are given the full ultra (Honda, Sakura, Fuerte etc.) Cammy DOES land her ultra after a jump in, however, unlike fei who juggles unless they hit the ground completely.

The problem isn't having to dash after a focus attack: FADC means something else entirely.

Also, Rog (especially) and Chun have NO disadvantages to their ultras compared to Fei/Cammy. As a Chun main, I know she has a load of ways to setup her ultra easily (EX Legs --> Ultra is easiest), and can punish a whiffed move from full screen. Rog's setups are even easier.

Fei/Cammy can ONLY combo into ultra from a Focus Attack that stuns, and they can't get the full ultra animation if the first hit connects while the opponent is in midair. :(

Edit: Cammy can land hers off of a jumpin. It still sucks compared to the rest of the cast.

[DJ Mighty]

I'm pretty sure Cammy can land her ultra off a standard FA or even after an opponent's jumpin. Fei sucks :(

Cammy can get it after a jump in but you dont get the full damage. Or maybe i am not hitting it right. I havent successfully mixed it into a combo either. Fei's is harder to pull off.

[Joseki]

Gentlemen.


I finally got around to setting up my Xbox Live account under the name H Gorge. It's from my NS days, everything else was taken, get off my back.

Now that that's out of the way, I'd really like to play this game in a community: It seems like the only thing this game is missing. Hit me up for a match. Usually play Boxer, but I'm trying to pick up Gen.

Oh, and don't feel bad if you don't know who the hell I am.

[Cassanova]

The problem isn't having to dash after a focus attack: FADC means something else entirely.

Also, Rog (especially) and Chun have NO disadvantages to their ultras compared to Fei/Cammy. As a Chun main, I know she has a load of ways to setup her ultra easily (EX Legs --> Ultra is easiest), and can punish a whiffed move from full screen. Rog's setups are even easier.

Fei/Cammy can ONLY combo into ultra from a Focus Attack that stuns, and they can't get the full ultra animation if the first hit connects while the opponent is in midair. :(

Edit: Cammy can land hers off of a jumpin. It still sucks compared to the rest of the cast.

So let's debate semantics. A "standard FA" is what? level 1? Or crumple. If it is crumple then my analysis applies. If you don't dash into a crumple you miss the boat on 100% ultra effectiveness. If we're talking level 1 I don't think you can combo that into anything more than a jab/short as it lacks hit stun to chain anything with a larger start up rate.

As far as I have seen in lord knows how many videos, Rog has Headbutt to ultra and that's it. He can punish fireballs too but that isn't a setup so much as a bait.

Cammy hit's ultra after any juggle, FA or off a jump in. It does decent chip and goes under Sagat's high tiger shots. Vega and Guile, they have MUCH worse ultras with even less setup than Cammy. For all those reasons above, her ultra is no where near crap compared to the rest of the cast.

[zircon]

If you don't dash into a crumple you miss the boat on 100% ultra effectiveness.

Fei doesn't get his full Ultra off a crumple though, FYI, or if he does it has severely mitigated damage. His Ultra sucks. At least Vega can punish ANYONE jumping with his Ultra, as can Guile. Fei... nothing. Please don't defend him. I played him a lot and he's nerfed in every way possible. He could be so much better, but he isn't, for no good reason.

[Cassanova]

Fei does get it off a crumple if you dash in. I'm doing it right now. Everyone's ultra has diminished damage if you land it after a FA since the FA is part of the combo. Complaining about Fei's ultra is one thing, but the mechanic is in every other character. I'm not defending him, since I think he blows, just merely stating that your particular beef with his ultra is one all characters have.

EDIT: Just did it with attack data up. If you do a full revenge meter ultra with Fei, it hits for 495 damage at 12 hits. With the addition of a level 3 focus, he does 485 damage for 13 hits. The damage reduction is negligible.

[SoloGamer]

EazyP / ILLiterate would be proud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3t41pSoNM4

[DJ Mighty]

So i attended a small lil tourney with a friend. Some one he met in college was holding it and had 2 spots left so we jumped in. it was $20 a person there was 20-24 people. There was a bunch of preliminary matches which they used to place you and determine byes. I dont remember exactly how it worked. I didnt do so well and switched between Ryu and Cammy. I was doing alot better with Ryu but i figured i was going to be knocked out first round anyway so i choose Cammy when the whole thing started. I actually did pretty well. I beat a, Sagat, Ken and El Furte before being knocked out by a Blanka Player.

After this experience, i learned that El Fuerte was awesome. I have been practicing with him since. Prob one of the most fun characters i ever played.