IS Blood on the Asphalt the soundtrack for SF2HD?

[dsx100]

This is just speculation but I think OCR's own Blood on the Asphalt could be the soundtrack for Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix. There are two things that contribute to this possible idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CoKEvn45Q
I'm like 99.9% sure that "Made in USA" is the BGM heard in this video.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26832.html
Music is fan driven. Interesting.

I would personally love Blood on the Asphalt as the soundtrack for Street Fighter HD. I can just imagine Murder Instinct playing in the background when you face Akuma.

Whether it is or not is still just speculation. What are your thoughts?

[Dhsu]

That would incredibly awesome if it's true. And if it isn't, someone definitely needs to contact Dave Sirlin and make it true.

[Hum4n After All]

Make the connection!
Make it happen!
Send him samples.

[mattycat900]

Evidence seems to point to this conclusion. Time will tell?

[Dhsu]

Or, you know, an e-mail.

If nobody else wants to do it, I can go ahead and send one.

[Geoffrey Taucer]

If that isn't Made in the USA, it's a deliberate knockoff.

[AMT]

Wait, wouldn't OCR know already if BotA was the soundtrack?

[djpretzel]

Please don't contact Capcom regarding this; their usage on the blog is legitimate, if a little premature.

While nothing is official yet, we HAVE been talking with them, and there's a possibility that OC ReMix will be involved with the SSF2HD project. Again, at this moment in time, nothing is signed or 100% certain. Hopefully that will change in the following weeks.

At this moment, we're coordinating things and I'm the single point of contact with Capcom, with Shael and Malcos remaining informed every step of the way. We planned to fully inform involved mixers of the potential once we had something more definite in terms of contracts, but the cat's at least partially out of the bag now.

Again, nothing is definite yet, and we really don't want to risk anything that would jeopardize the potential for OCR to be involved.

So:

- Please don't contact Capcom; my contact there, who is the decision maker, will simply refer you to me.

- Please don't treat this news as anything other than a possibility; nothing is signed, sealed, or delivered at this moment.

- Please don't contact me, Shael, or Malcos about participating in the project; most tracks are accounted for and we're already handling those that aren't.

Obviously, this is a huge opportunity for the fan mixing community to participate in what looks to be a badass game, but at this point in time, we don't want to do anything that would jeopardize that opportunity.

[Liontamer]

This is the ReMix.

*cough*

[big giant circles]

yay. how enthralling.

[dsx100]

Damn, so I wasn't just wildly speculating. Man this is exciting. I hope everything works out.

[Fenrir]

Wicked. I like.

[The Author]

Wow, that is about to set a pretty good precedent. Well, I'm gonna go knock on wood in multiple areas.

[atmuh]

i will buy it if this is true

[Arek the Absolute]

though really good, i think it would be odd to fight with chun li's remix playing for the bgm

[Kadosho]

Sweet, sweet. Just we, the community have to be patient and see whats next.
And gotta hope for the best. =D

[Broken]

though really good, i think it would be odd to fight with chun li's remix playing for the bgm

I believe the guy being interviewed said that there would be a normal and remixed soundtrack, so you should be able to choose. I may have heard wrong, though.

And "I don't fight boys" is like my favorite song

so STFU!

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Fucking sweet.

[zircon]

Just to clarify, even though nothing is set in stone, I would point out that not all the songs from BotA are being used, and many are being tweaked heavily.

[DjSammyG]

If my "Hadoken Mix" does not find its way into this game as the title music or otherwise, I will be very, VERY dissapointed in Capcom USA.

[Dhsu]

They totally need to use The OneUps' version of Vega's Theme.

[The Pezman]

Quick! Let's make a Phoenix Wright album and see if they pick that up too!

[jmr]

Fucking sweet.
My sentiments exactly.

[Arek the Absolute]

I believe the guy being interviewed said that there would be a normal and remixed soundtrack, so you should be able to choose. I may have heard wrong, though.

And "I don't fight boys" is like my favorite song

so STFU!
it is my favorite on the remix project
still can't fight to it

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

This is some seriously exciting news. I kind of feel jealous, but I feel even more awesome that Capcom is even considering it.

And yeah, I can definitely see that a bunch of tracks on BoTA would need to be left out or reworked quite a bit to work.

Still, good luck gang.

[Neo Samus]

Wow, this is exciting! To see a project make it to a game that it was dedicated to is fantastic. I'm hoping for the best.

[dsx100]

Just to clarify, even though nothing is set in stone, I would point out that not all the songs from BotA are being used, and many are being tweaked heavily.

That kind of sucks. I knew a lot of them would have to be tweaked quite a bit but being left out completely kind of sucks.

Well its not really all that bad. As long the majority of the project gets used its still a big deal for OCR. Agian, hope everything works out.

[zircon]

Well, you have to admit, not all of BotA really makes sense for pump-up fighting game music.

[Broken]

This is some seriously exciting news. I kind of feel jealous, but I feel even more awesome that Capcom is even considering it.

And yeah, I can definitely see that a bunch of tracks on BoTA would need to be left out or reworked quite a bit to work.

Still, good luck gang.

That's cool, I guess. I'd rather the music be tweaked to fit the game than just a direct copy into the game. It sounds like everything in SSF2T:HD is being meticulously crafted and tweaked, so refining some of the remixed soundtracks makes sense.

[Infinity's End]

I just find it kinda funny how a few days ago I wasn't even allowed to post anything about this in the official BotA thread, and now someone's made an entirely new thread, in the Gen. Disc section nonetheless, and it's allowed. Thanks guys. Especially from someone who made the friggin' album art.

[Bahamut]

I just find it kinda funny how a few days ago I wasn't even allowed to post anything about this in the official BotA thread, and now someone's made an entirely new thread, in the Gen. Disc section nonetheless, and it's allowed. Thanks guys. Especially from someone who made the friggin' album art.

To be fair, he didn't know that it really is in the works.

[Dhsu]

So it seems that a scenario similar to Compyfox's much-scoffed-at hypotheticals has arisen. I'd imagine this creates an interesting situation regarding distribution and artist rights.

[zircon]

Well, no, Compyfox's ridiculous hypothetical involved a remixer being independently approached by a company looking to get their exclusive distribution rights - also forcing them to take down the remixes everywhere else. That really isn't anything like what is happening here..

[Katsurugi]

ReeeeeeeeeeeeMMMMMMiiiiiiiiiiiixxxxx!

Anyway, I haven't seen SF2HD almost at all aside from 3 images. Looks pretty good, but apparently they really don't necessarily want you to focus in on audio too much as of right now. Why don't we just all play the waiting game? And for you more impatient people, Hungry Hungry Hippos.

[Hyperion5182]

This would set one hell of a precedent if it happens. I pray it does for the simple fact that this level of publicity would almost guarantee voices of the lifestream being the primary soundtrack for an FF7 remake. Keep us informed guys!!

[Mustin]

Damn son

Dhsu's right - VEGA VEGA VEGA!

[V___]

I hope to HELL I get given an opportunity to try and fix my track

*listens to tokyo slapdown*

*shivers*

[Liontamer]

Re: V_gasm/E. Honda, it's not the sound they wanted.

Lemme clarify, BotA is NOT explicitly the soundtrack. Some of it will be used. In terms of the sum total of the soundtrack most of it is not BotA, but some of the character themes will be from that. As djp has said, nothing it set in stone, so collectively speaking, y'all should just wait for more information to surface once it's possible.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

I could see I Don't Fight Boys, Army Girl, Mercenary Boxing, Made in USA, Flying Heaven, Urban Uppercut, Communist Jungle, New Mexican Thunderbird, and Murder Instinct as some tracks that could work great, but a few might need some reworking.

Fingers are definitely crossed for this one.

[The Pezman]

I'd love to see Jose's tracks as the character themes.

Of course, what I'd really like to see even more is for Bison, Balrog and Vega to refer to the people they were SUPPOSED to.

[dsx100]

I just find it kinda funny how a few days ago I wasn't even allowed to post anything about this in the official BotA thread, and now someone's made an entirely new thread, in the Gen. Disc section nonetheless, and it's allowed. Thanks guys. Especially from someone who made the friggin' album art.

I was just speculating. I honestly didn't know there was something actually going on. I am sorry if I ruined anything. I'm just a huge SF fan and I follow almost every single bit of news that concerns it. So when things started adding up, I just speculated and it turned out to be partially true. Agian sorry for ruining anything.

[Liontamer]

I just find it kinda funny how a few days ago I wasn't even allowed to post anything about this in the official BotA thread, and now someone's made an entirely new thread, in the Gen. Disc section nonetheless, and it's allowed. Thanks guys. Especially from someone who made the friggin' album art.
Emo much? :lol: Honestly, we didn't want the info out yet and we caught your post as soon as it went up without anyone replying to it. This thread, we just didn't catch quickly enough. So the jig was up. And there you go.

But in terms of anyone catching it and posting on OCR, you were indeed the first. Good ear.

[Infinity's End]

I was just speculating. I honestly didn't know there was something actually going on. I am sorry if I ruined anything. I'm just a huge SF fan and I follow almost every single bit of news that concerns it. So when things started adding up, I just speculated and it turned out to be partially true. Agian sorry for ruining anything.

Hey DSX, no apology needed. They deleted my post and I'm just pouting about it. :P There's a lot to be excited about though! OMG BOTA'S GONNA BE IN A REAL VIDEO GAME!

[SwordBreaker]

Wow...so that's what Capcom meant about the music being "more community-oriented" in one of the interviews I read at 1UP recently.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3163794

"Achievements to be included in the Xbox 360 version, and Svensson hints that the community will come into play somehow with the creation (or selection) of the remixed music tracks to be included as well."

At first, this idea popped up in my head. Then, I dismissed it...thinking of something simple like the fans choosing what tracks they would like remixed or something. I REALLY wanted to start this thread about it, but was afraid that I would sound like I'm jumping to conclusions.

But from this thread it seems that there is something in the works at least. If this happens, then this would be an incredible breakthrough in the game remixing community.

Man...now I'm back listening to BotA. Sagat and Ken's remixes are so freggin' addicting. Would work really well while playing, actually.

[Torzelan]

Whosh, thanks for ruining my 100% satisfaction with not owning an xbox now or in the future. ;-) Actually it already wasn't quite 100%, there was that one other game I'd like to play too but I think a sequel with reach out to other platforms. So meh!

Anyhow! Awesome, and I'll be sure to either force my xbox fanatic friend to buy it so that I'll atleast have seen / heard it. Else I'll buy it for him, those games aren't crazy expensive at all as I've understood it. Also, I'm guessing that whatever tracks do end up in the game, there'll perhaps be a soundtrack CD for sale sooner or later..! I'd be all over that.

Fingers crossed! Realise your Ken!

[- Myke -]

If Vurez's New Mexican Thunderbird, Malcos Reaching for Nirudha & bLiNd and Leifo Urban Uppercut doesn't make it into the game. I'm going to be very very very angry.

[dsx100]

I just listend BoTA agian and I can see how some of the remixes wouldn't work well. I wouldn't mind any BGMs but I do see why many wouldn't work. A lot them could work out well with heavy tweaking in my opinion. However, I think "Made in USA" and "Murder Instinct" should be definate keepers as they sound the most like their original BGMs and they both sound great as BGMS themsevles and seem like great fighting music.

One question though: Since not all of BoTA is going to part of the soundtrack, does that mean OCR is going to provide the rest of it?

[atmuh]

If Vurez's New Mexican Thunderbird, Malcos Reaching for Nirudha & bLiNd and Leifo Urban Uppercut doesn't make it into the game. I'm going to be very very very angry.

the fact that even a single track from the album has potential to be there should be satisfying for anyone here with half a brain

one track is still a huge step

[Broken]

They can do whatever they want with the music, but they'd better not touch the track names.

just saying "Urban Uppercut" makes me chuckle everytime.

ASSONANCE TO THE EXTREME!

[RepressedChaos]

I been thinking about this the last while since its been up. just for curiosity sake, how would Spittin Narsism and Thank You work?

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

They wouldn't. End of story.

[Ramaniscence]

Which is why Jose needs to release an intrumental version of Thank You, because it's the best track on there.

[Urban Xperience]

Which is why Jose needs to release an intrumental version of Thank You, because it's the best track on there.

I actually downloaded the instrumentals of Thank You and Spittin Narcisissm (however you spell it) on Jose's website. Not sure if its still there but he hs revamped his site when I last checked...

[anosou]

I really hope this will make developers of re-issued games and such take the remix scene in account.
Especially with the improving standards of OCR this seems more and more possible.
all I can say is this: AWESOME! :D

EDIT: Hi, Score! (Ranking Display) please! Somehow this is the track on BotA that appeals to me the most except Flying Heaven. It just screams "GAAAAME".

[Ramaniscence]

Most importantly, King of Pillows (http://olremix.org/remixes/100) should be the credits music. imho

[anosou]

Most importantly, King of Pillows (http://olremix.org/remixes/100) should be the credits music. imho

Most importantly, no :)
Even though it's pure genius, no

[Ramaniscence]

Sprites aside, this game is still just going to be SF2. Down-forward punch and the like. That song in the credits would be the only driving force to make me want to beat it.

[anosou]

Sprites aside, this game is still just going to be SF2. Down-forward punch and the like. That song in the credits would be the only driving force to make me want to beat it.

but it would make more serious persons NOT want to beat it ;)

[megadave]

I think a power metal remix of the credits theme would be perfect.

[Kroze]

No one has made mention of demanding "The Ken Song" to be in this game?
WTF is wrong with you all?

[zircon]

The Ken Song is great, but - and this goes for anyone here - try to imagine the effectiveness of this music in the game. There's a big difference between great music and effective game music. I believe Cap asked for no lyrics of any kind which would rule it out anyway, but more importantly, these are being cut + looped; the Ken Song is more of a 'real' song and cutting it to 1:30-2:00 would screw up the dynamic build as compared with Sixto's version, which mimics the feel of the original more closely.

[The Pezman]

Any news on when we'll know for sure one way or the other?

[Bahamut]

Any news on when we'll know for sure one way or the other?

Whenever it's finalized and Capcom is good and ready to reveal it. :-P

[V___]

Re: V_gasm/E. Honda, it's not the sound they wanted.


:( *hate*



Naa, just wanted a chance to redeem myself for the crappy sound quality... My Tales project track should do just that!! [/pimpout]

[DeepChild]

I trust Capcom will do what is necessary to make the tracks sound right in-game. Major kudos to them for even considering including an alternate remix soundtrack. I'm hoping "Army Girl", "Flying Heaven", and "Murder Instinct" make it in. I'm guessing "I Don't Fight Boys" is a lock considering how perfect it is already. If they can make "Urban Uppercut" work in a fighting game, I'd be eternally grateful. Bah, there are so many good tracks in this album.

Ironically I saw this thread as I was listening to BotA. I'm very excited to see what comes of this.

[Fishy]

This is a pretty significant occurance depending on how its recieved. If ppls like us then maybe other companies will start approaching us too, which would be awesome. Looks like we're getting some industry recognition.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

The Ken Song is great, but - and this goes for anyone here - try to imagine the effectiveness of this music in the game. There's a big difference between great music and effective game music. I believe Cap asked for no lyrics of any kind which would rule it out anyway, but more importantly, these are being cut + looped; the Ken Song is more of a 'real' song and cutting it to 1:30-2:00 would screw up the dynamic build as compared with Sixto's version, which mimics the feel of the original more closely.

Which I totally agree with. The music should never steal the show in a video game(unless it was explicitly stated), but rather it should serve as ambiance while still slightly adding it's own piece to the puzzle. Thank You, Deejay and Spitting Narcissism are my two favorite tracks out of the whole project, but they wouldn't work without heavy retooling(if they could work at all).

[zircon]

I trust Capcom will do what is necessary to make the tracks sound right in-game. Major kudos to them for even considering including an alternate remix soundtrack. I'm hoping "Army Girl", "Flying Heaven", and "Murder Instinct" make it in. I'm guessing "I Don't Fight Boys" is a lock considering how perfect it is already. If they can make "Urban Uppercut" work in a fighting game, I'd be eternally grateful. Bah, there are so many good tracks in this album.

Ironically I saw this thread as I was listening to BotA. I'm very excited to see what comes of this.

"I Don't Fight Boys" is not gonna be in AFAIK, does it REALLY sound like fighting game music? It's more like smooth lounge.. not energetic enough.

[The Derrit]

It seems to me that wallstreet monster is the best suited track to an actual game, but that would just be me. any word of that track getting considered?

[DeepChild]

"I Don't Fight Boys" is not gonna be in AFAIK, does it REALLY sound like fighting game music? It's more like smooth lounge.. not energetic enough.

Hmm, I disagree (respectfully of course). The sound is certainly smoother than most tracks in the album, and seems even more so when pitted against a typical fighting game track. However, I would argue that there is plenty of energy in the song to drive a good brawl. Of course, this is all personal taste, but I think it fits Chun Li's stage well.

As far as my comments guessing that it would be a lock for the game, consider that an insight into how much I really know :)

[djpretzel]

We'd prefer not to get into the business of discussing what will or won't be in; we're managing that as best we can, it's not a question of ego or personal preference, it's a question of what Capcom thinks works best for the game.

Andy (and other site staff and mixers), if you could please refrain from answering questions or making guesses about which tracks are or aren't in, or other aspects of the involvement that are still far from concrete, I think that'd be best. We'll know when we know, and while those closest to the project might know a little bit more, a little bit sooner, the bottom line is that what's important is OCR's involvement as a community, not which tracks/artists were involved specifically. Guaranteeing that is first and foremost.

[dsx100]

I can't help but feel that kind of screwed things up by making this thread. It seems like all this speculating and asking questions is getting the way or at least making the process more difficult. Maybe it would be best to close this thread, that way you don't have worry about saying anything before the time is right. I'm sorry if I caused OCR a lot of problems with this.

[BardicKnowledge]

^ No worries -- I'm sure that no one is upset with you, seeing as how your post definitely doesn't break any of the forum rules.

djp, I'm content to wait as long as it takes on this one, and I'm sure everyone else feels the same. Keep us updated as best you can, and we'll quit speculating in the meantime.

[Volt]

I can't help but feel that kind of screwed things up by making this thread. It seems like all this speculating and asking questions is getting the way or at least making the process more difficult. Maybe it would be best to close this thread, that way you don't have worry about saying anything before the time is right. I'm sorry if I caused OCR a lot of problems with this.

Relax. If you didn't make this thread, someone else would have. Like me.

When I watched the interview a few days ago and the Capcom rep mentioned remixed music, my first thought was, "Blood on the Asphalt?" Glad to see some tracks potentially included.

[The wingless]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31831.html


According to this gentleman, they took the music from Ocremix, followed promptly by a scrolling visual of the Blood on the Asphalt website.

Oh, if only I had made one of my trademark fruity-ass piano twinkly dealies... then *I* too could be famous.

Discuss!

[Liontamer]

Just noting that the background music for the GameTrailers video are two OC ReMixes by Norrin Radd (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01194/) and McVaffe (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00466/), but not from HD Remix.

[Blake]

That was a really well made video. And props to Blood on the Asphalt.

[JJT]

confirmed for sf2hd: larry oji as deejay

[Liontamer]

confirmed for sf2hd: larry oji as deejay

I hate you.

[Urban Xperience]

Huh? So what does that mean? Is it finally on or still speculation?

[José the Bronx Rican]

Huh? So what does that mean? Is it finally on or still speculation?

This may be closer to the answer:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17974

[The Pezman]

They pretty much confirmed it at MAGFest.

[Kadosho]

Just watching the new trailer @ GT. Amazing, just getting to see more of this project getting attention. And alot more impulse is building. *reading the notes from users, it is very positive. I'm sure some of our community have given it kudos, but this is pure sweetness.

[I-n-j-i-n]

I just wish the background looked better though. Worst looking videogame pedestrians in history.

[Ramaniscence]

This may be closer to the answer:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17974

Nice Narcissism :nicework:

Need more Thank You, DeeJay

[SwordBreaker]

I hope this is still on. We've been recently getting previews and new hands-on impressions from media sites and they've confirmed "remixed" music. :)

Indeed, this is one big step for OCR and the videogame remixing community in whole. Props to the BOTA dudes. They must be so proud.

[Arek the Absolute]

I just wish the background looked better though. Worst looking videogame pedestrians in history.

I love how you always find negatives in something.

This is awesome. Props to every musician that got their track in!

[Ansatsuken-TKD]

Long time listener - first time... writer!

I've just gotta say that I really love all the tracks on Blood on the Asphalt! I love 'em so much that I've programmed most of them into ST on my computer. Keep up the awesome work! :-)

I've mentioned this on Capcom's blog and I think it'd be appropriate here as well.


Nearly all the music fits in the game nicely except for Vega’s stage. Rap music seems out of place especially for a joint where acoustic guitars and castanets play in the background. Please go to gh.ffshrine.org and check out the Street Fighter 2 Alph Lyra album, and listen to Vega’s music titled Splendor. That’s the type of sound that I’d like to hear out of the Taberna in Spain. Hopefully you’ll implement some music that sounds a lot closer to guitars and castanets.

Jose, if you're reading I just wanna let you know that your remixes are great - they're even on my iPod. But if you could put some "Latin" stuff on Vega's stage that'd be great!

[Liontamer]

Jose, if you're reading I just wanna let you know that your remixes are great - they're even on my iPod. But if you could put some "Latin" stuff on Vega's stage that'd be great!

Yeah, I saw that comment on the Capcom blog and I was annoyed. So I'm here to request to José to disregard any rap/hip-hop haters re: Vega. :lol: The strings are still Latin, the overall vibe is still Vega's stage. It's a remix for a reason, and it sounds good. Watching the in-game footage, it clicks, and that's what's important.

[Ansatsuken-TKD]

Yeah, I saw that comment on the Capcom blog and I was annoyed. So I'm here to request to José to disregard any rap/hip-hop haters re: Vega. :lol: The strings are still Latin, the overall vibe is still Vega's stage. It's a remix for a reason, and it sounds good. Watching the in-game footage, it clicks, and that's what's important.

If you feel that it fits then great - maybe it'll grow on me over time. But hearing rap on Vega's stage just seems kinda odd still. Wasn't really out to annoy or offend anyone. Just sharing my opinion. BTW, I'm definitely not a hip-hop hater - I did mention that I have the stuff on my iPod, after all...

[Ramaniscence]

In Ansa's defense, I can really see where he's coming from. I even commented about it on irc last night. I really love the fact that the BotA songs made it into SF2HD. Jose's especially because I remember them talking about some of the lyrical songs were questionable, and his songs were my favorite on the CD. You listen to BGC's song and it's in the same style as Guile's original theme...just updated a bit. Then you listen to Fei Long's stage and now Fei Long has this totally bad ass super aggressive techno music going on. Now you go to Vega's stage has this laid back gangsta rap beat, and I LOVE it...but the consistency isn't there.

Like I said before, I'm really happy that BotA is making it into the game market, but you can't get upset about people who aren't so community oriented being a little confused.

[Liontamer]

Don't get me wrong; I'm not just trying to be "rah-rah community!" on the fact that the music is involved. I just thought the groove there worked in-game, in spite of some of the criticisms I've read. If José felt like he could thematically improve on it, and the leeway was there on Capcom's side, I'm cool with that. But I still enjoy it as is. I'm also glad the music is being well-received overall!

[KyleJCrb]

Is it just me or is the music for Ryu's stage NOT featuring BrainCells' mind-melting guitar work? :-(

[José the Bronx Rican]

One big reason I'm monitoring comments around the net is that, being hip-hop, I knew from the beginning this would be, by far, the most controversial selection, and I'm having fun gauging reactions. I'm already joking around at 1up: "What, no hate for the new BGM?" It's further from the norm than most fighter BGM, so the reaction is natural; should I bring up Marvel vs. Capcom 2? Fortunately, the word "crap" is a convenient indicator of ignorant commentary, so I can easily separate good points from bad. There is a valid point about whether the tune fits. My honest feeling is that, considering Capcom (working with a deadline of "yesterday") maybe had to put aside all the music's perceived "appropriateness," "Narcissism" works rather well, and is only slightly off to me because it seems a bit "empty" without vocals. However, game's not done yet, so we'll see.

[big giant circles]

hehe, don't sweat it man. i've already seen a few people at gametrailers gripe about the guile music. can't please everyone :)

in this day, you can leave baskets of food on people's porch, and people would still find something to bitch about.

[The Pezman]

I remember during the MAGFet presentation it was mentioned that there weren't any talks of compensation... why not?

[Urban Xperience]

Contributors of BotA should be entitled to some sort of royalty or income. It is essentially your music is is not? Capcom should realise that...

[Liontamer]

To curb that talk now, djp purposely chose to do this for free. It's legally easier, plus you probably wouldn't be listening to OCR do the soundtrack right now if we didn't offer to do it for free. That being said, I'm glad at the choice!

[Arek the Absolute]

Psh, don't see why anyone's against doing it for free. It opens up doors for all that did music for the game.

Networking and connections, friends.

[The_Mighty_Jack]

What does SF2HD stand for?

[dsx100]

I'm very glad "Narcissism" made it in. When I first heard it, I knew it would be a perfect BGM (minus the lyrics of course). After watching the videos, I must say it really does fit in well. Thats definately music I can fight to. I hope an instrumental version of "Thank You DeeJay" makes it in as well.

[Urban Xperience]

I guess it makes sense, but if I had it my way, I would still go for the 'ca$h money' route lol. But as it is a mutual agreement, then I have nothing against that.

[Urban Xperience]

I'm very glad "Narcissism" made it in. When I first heard it, I knew it would be a perfect BGM (minus the lyrics of course). After watching the videos, I must say it really does fit in well. Thats definately music I can fight to. I hope an instrumental version of "Thank You DeeJay" makes it in as well.

Excuse me mate but wht is wrong wid Jose's lyrics? See I don't understand the criticism of Jose's Vega music. I think its absolutely beautiful. The world NNEEEEDDSS hip-hop ok?!

[Ramaniscence]

in this day, you can leave baskets of food on people's porch, and people would still find something to bitch about.

Ya'know I really appreciate the offer and all, but I'm really just not a fruit person...and even if I were, I mean...apricots and mangos just really aren't my top choice for fruit. You could've have gone more generic like apples and bananas? Or even strawberries. That way I could've at least made a fricken smoothy. This is like the left overs from the "no one wants" bin.

[Moguta]

What does SF2HD stand for?
Street Fighter 2 High Definition, I think?

And I actually couldn't tell whether Jose's lyrics were there in the video. I'm disappointed to hear that they had to be cut. ): Although if I remember it had some cursing, right, so I can understand why.

It'll be exciting to hear all the finished tracks. Don't hold up the release, guys. ;)

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

Hey... um... this is kinda huge for OCR. Has anything like this happened before?

[dsx100]

Excuse me mate but wht is wrong wid Jose's lyrics? See I don't understand the criticism of Jose's Vega music. I think its absolutely beautiful. The world NNEEEEDDSS hip-hop ok?!

I hope I didn't make it seem like I dislike the lyrics. That wasn't my intention at all. They are good and I love the original songs but as BGMs, songs with lyrics don't work well. I mean how often do you play a fighting game with a BGM that has lyrics. It just doesn't fit that well. However, even if the song had included the lyrics, it would still be pretty awsome.

[big giant circles]

Ya'know I really appreciate the offer and all, but I'm really just not a fruit person...and even if I were, I mean...apricots and mangos just really aren't my top choice for fruit. You could've have gone more generic like apples and bananas? Or even strawberries. That way I could've at least made a fricken smoothy. This is like the left overs from the "no one wants" bin.

exactly, amirite? lawl

:mrgreen:

[Gollgagh]

Fuck you, man.

Mango smoothies are fucking awesome.

[The Pezman]

Psh, don't see why anyone's against doing it for free. It opens up doors for all that did music for the game.

Networking and connections, friends.
All that's valid, and I'm not "against" people making music for free if that's what they want to do. Hell, I'm here at this site.

I would, however, hate to see a trend where companies start to outsource work to their fans. With the threshold for making quality work relatively low (well, much lower than it used to be), a lot of people can jump onto the high-end amateur bandwagon. These companies can take their pick of free quality material, using the excuse "Hey, it's BY the fans" to shield themselves from criticism. Really, how can you lose?

Plus, networking in this particular context is not as valuable, as I'm not sure how many people involved in this project are looking to pursue the music industry professionally.

[Jaswald]

Who the hell decided March was moss month...?

[Urban Xperience]

Who the hell decided March was moss month...?

I'm assuming its Kate Moss...?

[Least100Seraphs]

There's been mention of the choice of either remixed or original tracks as an option in the game - any idea if there will be an option to select which stages have remixed tracks play, and which have original tracks playing? As for the lyrical debate... one must remember that the people posting on this forum are but a subset of videogame music remix fans, who themselves are a subset of music fans and videogame fans. To call a song remixed by anyone here "crap" is silly, of course, but by the same token to think less of someone who would prefer to hear non-hip-hop, or non-techno, or non-whatever-other-genres-one-cares-to-name is equally foolish.

Many of the songs on this site could quite easily replace their original versions in the games they're from, and most would agree that the replacement was superior - but part of the purpose of some of the other tracks here is to take that song out of the game and change it in ways so that it would quite simply no longer be suitable. Look to JJT's F-Zero piano pieces. They're (IMO) brilliant works, and to me they're infinitely superior to the original tracks. However, when I play F-Zero, I want to hear the originals, or perhaps I'd want to hear the guitar arrange versions instead. Of course, there are some who'd disagree, and would prefer the piano in the game.

Similarly, much of BotA's soundtrack is urban in its design, and that's not everyone's favourite genre. Much like classical, it seems to divide people more than many other genres. Some of it won't fit in a 2D fighter like SF, KoF, GG, or the like. Some may think it an insult to tell a composer or musician that their music doesn't belong somewhere - but I believe it's equally insulting to tell them that their work is safe and inoffensive and nicely fall into the background of anything, anywhere. Jose should not feel offended that some believe his music, especially his lyrics, don't fit in SSF2THD, because I don't think he set out to make "Spitting is Narcissism" a mere subsitute for a CPS2/QSound bgm file.

[Malcos]

I mean how often do you play a fighting game with a BGM that has lyrics. It just doesn't fit that well.

MVC 2 *cough*

[Fishy]

SSBM had the DK rap on one level.

[big giant circles]

All that's valid, and I'm not "against" people making music for free if that's what they want to do. Hell, I'm here at this site.

I would, however, hate to see a trend where companies start to outsource work to their fans. With the threshold for making quality work relatively low (well, much lower than it used to be), a lot of people can jump onto the high-end amateur bandwagon. These companies can take their pick of free quality material, using the excuse "Hey, it's BY the fans" to shield themselves from criticism. Really, how can you lose?

Plus, networking in this particular context is not as valuable, as I'm not sure how many people involved in this project are looking to pursue the music industry professionally.

actually, this is a very valid topic for future consideration, IMO. this is indeed a great step forward for OCR, but i PERSONALLY sure as hell hope that it's not the start of a long trend of companies wanting free soundtracks.

i'm happy as can be that i'm contributing to a major game title, but i'm not happy at the idea that the industry could potentially exploit the act. "Oh, we'll just get these fans to do this for free--they're suckers, and it'll save us a ton of money!"

granted this seems a pessimistic perception--i honestly don't mean for it to sound that way, but it doesn't hurt to consider possibilities BEFORE they arise.

again, and quite officially, i'm really happy to be part of this project, and since this IS in fact a groundbreaking event, i'm not concerned or troubled about "doing it for free" in this instance. :)

[José the Bronx Rican]

Everything I've heard from Dave to this point tells me he and his "L.L.C." have really gone out of their way legally to do right by us artists re: use of this music (and proper credit for it) specifically on this game release, and that we may be taken care of in the case of any future use of the music outside of the game and its promotion. If other companies from here on out do the same thing and somehow jerk the artists around one way or another, you couldn't blame it on ocremix. We'll be alright; always remember, we ourselves were never on the firmest legal ground with what we do. There has to be good faith somewhere on this planet. ;-)

Now back to my Rocket Knight challenge...

[McVaffe]

actually, this is a very valid topic for future consideration, IMO. this is indeed a great step forward for OCR, but i PERSONALLY sure as hell hope that it's not the start of a long trend of companies wanting free soundtracks.

i'm happy as can be that i'm contributing to a major game title, but i'm not happy at the idea that the industry could potentially exploit the act. "Oh, we'll just get these fans to do this for free--they're suckers, and it'll save us a ton of money!"

granted this seems a pessimistic perception--i honestly don't mean for it to sound that way, but it doesn't hurt to consider possibilities BEFORE they arise.

again, and quite officially, i'm really happy to be part of this project, and since this IS in fact a groundbreaking event, i'm not concerned or troubled about "doing it for free" in this instance. :)

I doubt you have to be too concerned with this... this project does set a precedent and it's a great collaboration between a large game company and a community which is not only inspired by it but supports it as well. Adding a whole bunch of superfluous people to their payroll is something they would likely simply avoid by saying "don't worry, our guys can handle the music (I'm sure they have in-house talent up to the task, opinions of their quality compared to the remixes notwithstanding).

As well, you gotta remember - when it comes to jobs of passion (as jobs in the entertainment arts certainly are) - competition is so fierce that if you don't agree to get paid little or nothing when you're starting out, you can be sure that there could be dozens - if not hundreds or thousands - of aspiring artists or fans that would take that opportunity in a heartbeat.

It's infuriating and perhaps in the large scheme of things unfair. But It's the way companies work. It's still a great step forward in terms of collaboration, community involvement in the game development process, and a company reaching out to its fans in a big way.

[Dhsu]

Is it just me or is the music for Ryu's stage NOT featuring BrainCells' mind-melting guitar work? :-(
Yeah, I don't recognize the Guile track either. Might be new stuff from OCReMixers done exclusively for the game.

[Malcos]

Yeah, I don't recognize the Guile track either. Might be new stuff from OCReMixers done exclusively for the game.

Yep. Tis so.

[Eternal Testament]

I still lurketh...

I've been following this whole thing for a while now and I've been searching for anything, be it confirmation, rumour, wild speculation or just mindless burbling of my track being included in game.

Still, I live in hope.

[DarkeSword]

I still lurketh...

I've been following this whole thing for a while now and I've been searching for anything, be it confirmation, rumour, wild speculation or just mindless burbling of my track being included in game.

Still, I live in hope.

Sorry man, but I'm pretty sure that if you haven't been contacted about it by now, your track isn't going to be used.

[Eternal Testament]

Well, I have been, but it was a few months ago.

[Liontamer]

Sorry Rob, we definitely would have contacted you had your track been used, because everyone had to do edits on whatever pre-existing music got carried over. We'd never just use your music without getting in touch with you, that'd be illegal. Make some more ReMixes though!

[Eternal Testament]

I'm disappointed, but hey ho. Win some, lose some. Thing is I've got the time on my hands now, I would quite happily do another version. Ah well, not to worry. At least I was part of BotA, dispite my tracks ropey quality (Which, incidentally, I am now able to fix), which is something I am proud of.