View Full Version : Megaman 2 - Flashman (Pendulum inspired)
zircon
10-27-2007, 01:16 AM
Been awhile since I've posted anything... I was messing around last night after listening to copious amounts of Pendulum (including their latest single "Granite") and I came up with this basic downtempo beat. Today, I managed to create a nice bass, distorted bass, and ultimately ended up with a little clip that was definitely a big nod to Pendulum's style - from the synths to the drums. As I tried out some chords on top I ended up with a familiar progression.
Here's what I came up with, after further tweaking (and excessive mixing/mastering.)
www.soundtempest.net/n-FLASH.mp3
Not much yet, but enjoy! :)
avaris
10-27-2007, 01:29 AM
Haha nice the source and style really make a nice blend. IMO I really abrasive in your face lead would sound awesome during a breakout section for this. Lookin forward to the update!
HoboKa
10-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Very nice Zirc, got some major phat synths going on. I don't think I'm qualified to really critique, so I'll just say it's real good :), can't wait to hear it fully produced.
Definitely looking forward to the full version! I concur with avaris as well, a full-on audio assault is in order!!! :)
HoboKa
10-27-2007, 06:00 AM
Definitely looking forward to the full version! I concur with avaris as well, a full-on audio assault is in order!!! :)
amen to that! One of these days when I get good, I'm gonna collab with Zirc >:- D
Sole Signal
10-27-2007, 06:12 AM
Haha I was also inspired to try something in Pendulum style after hearing that Granite single, like it seems that you were here. :)
As for the mix; great start, definitely will be keeping an eye on this one.
ellywu2
10-27-2007, 09:48 AM
very nice!
beef that bass up and get that snare pumping though :)
Tensei
10-27-2007, 11:32 AM
amen to that! One of these days when I get good, I'm gonna collab with Zirc >:- D
Oh, HoboKa, who WON't you collab with?
Anyway, this is sounding very nice, I dig the surf-style drum rhythm when things pick up. I don't think I'm really qualified to make suggestions here, so I'll just say keep it up!
HoboKa
10-27-2007, 02:18 PM
probably you, cuz u smell. Lol jk :P
Robotaki
10-27-2007, 04:58 PM
you've got really good contrast between sections already (in rhythms, the tone of the synths, and harmonies) I sincerely hope you can keep these sorts of contrasts consistent throughout the piece because it'll hold our interest. For me, a heavily filtered and processed (FX-ilicious) drum section with a simple melody over top is a must. Awesome stuff zirc.
zircon
11-02-2007, 01:21 AM
Updated a bit, also was updated within the first 24 hours or so.
avaris
11-02-2007, 01:54 AM
Haha loving the intro. Great way to bring some fresh ideas into a DnB. My only beef is at :49, it felt like the entire song just droppped out. That section would be a great breakdown later in the song though IMO.
Dafydd
11-02-2007, 10:35 AM
Zircon does mm2? This definitely caught my eye. :-D
So far, the second half of it doesn't sound all that interesting, especially when the synths just come in. Even though it sounds better than it would have if most people had attempted the same thing, it's nowhere near your best stuff. I'm looking forward to hearing the final version of this though.
Beoulve
11-02-2007, 03:45 PM
This is so cool! Can't wait for the next update!
Tensei
11-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Oh god yes, orchestral intro kicks ass. I do have a very minor gripe though: the extremely fast hi-hat seems to come in at a rather unusual moment; I'd either have it fade-in (which would work better as a build-up) or just wait until you 'drop the beat' to bring it in. The rest is absolutely stunning though.
Sole Signal
11-02-2007, 10:41 PM
The intro through :37 sounds great/amazing, but :38 sounds almost anti-climatic after the epic intro. Maybe consider going directly into the dnb beat drop there and save the big beat stuff for a breakdown?
I dunno, what you've got now definitely sounds good; maybe I'm just nitpicking. :<
This is awesome; my only complaint is that it ended. Keep up the good work!
zircon
11-04-2007, 05:41 PM
Updated. The orch to main beat transition should be a bit more cohesive now.. I'm not 100% on it yet, but this is more in the direction I want.
Torzelan
11-05-2007, 01:19 PM
Can't get on IRC at the moment for whatever reason; just wanted to say I'm diggin' what you've changed/added since last night! I'm going to have to nag you about where to get orchestral hits like that, been searching but failing in the past.
Definite improvement on the-thing-that-I-didn't-know-what-to-call. I think that f.e at about 1:06-1:07, it sounds a bit weird because of the notes changing too quickly causing the sound to reset at an awkward position. God it's hard to describe this with text. But:
Apart from the very darkest notes, it's like it has an initial "hammer-on" sound that is very brief, which then immediately becomes that rising buzzy sound. I think it could perhaps be worth trying to either not let it get to the buzz at those quick notes, OR make it so that the "hammer-on sound" appears in uh, "back-beat" (if that translation works in this context).
Nitpicking, of course only because it's all there is to do here.
Sole Signal
11-05-2007, 04:44 PM
I like this version much more. What guitar samples are those btw?
zircon
11-05-2007, 07:58 PM
Bela D Media's Lyrical Distortion partially amped through Guitar Rig 2. Hoping to get Sixto or Fishy to hook it up with the real thing though.
Thanks for the comments, still working on this.
ellywu2
11-05-2007, 10:17 PM
:37 onwards is so Blood Sugar. I love it.
My only advice would be to really beef the hell out of the two step at 1:20. Lets hear a *massive* snare and kick.
The Derrit
11-15-2007, 04:29 PM
This is the excellence. My only comment is that around 1:20, when the synth takes the lead and the square gets quieter, the square hit almost gets too quiet. i had to strain to hear it, which was too bad because i loved what it was doing, so maybe just bump up the volume in that section so we can hear it better?
CC Ricers
11-16-2007, 04:37 AM
Pendulum, eh? I hear the Pendulum influence well with the snares and the claps, all right. Beginning is so "Slam", but I also want to hear more of that orchestra later on. Ever heard their Battle Royale remix of "Hold Your Colour"? Something like that.
This reminds me...are you gonna do an extended version of Depth Charge? I pretty much like the ambient parts of that song.
DJ-Arthur
11-16-2007, 06:38 AM
Ah! Definitly a good mix for the Flash is being born here!... I'm not gonna tell you my suggestions though, since First of all, You do this stuff a lot better that me, and second, I'm somewhat of a fan of most of your works haha... And this is not realy my Genre, if it is any that is... Style is definitly unique though, it really "pounds my speakers" :wink:
Looking forward to the result :-o
zircon
11-16-2007, 06:41 AM
Thanks for the comments guys!
Ellywu; I dunno what you're monitoring on but the kick and snare are already pretty enormous on mine.. hard to get them any louder, considering I've already used sidechaining as well as multiband compression.
Derrit; Yeah, I might boost the square a bit, though the focus of that part is supposed to be the synth lead.
JustChris; haven't heard that remix in particular, though I know the original. I might bring back the orch later, we'll see. It's very RAM intensive generally speaking.
I haven't actually added anything more to this but I'd like to soon!
The Derrit
12-05-2007, 10:50 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/1161118378057.jpg
'nuff said.
DJ ++
12-07-2007, 03:22 AM
I love this so hard! - I just wish it were longer.
HoboKa
12-07-2007, 05:22 AM
lol, Zirc it just occured to me - why do u need to post your remixes on the wip forums when you're already high and mighty? do u really need us nubs to help you :P?
Tensei
12-07-2007, 10:29 AM
lol, Zirc it just occured to me - why do u need to post your remixes on the wip forums when you're already high and mighty? do u really need us nubs to help you :P?
Has it ever occured to you that when you're all 'high and mighty', you might still want to hear feedback on your mixes, even from 'nubs'? After all, the way you perceive your own mix will always be completely different from the way someone else hears it, so certain details will stand out, and others will get ignored. Having others listen to your mix is always a great way to get an objective look at it, no matter whether you're 'high and mighty' or a 'nub'.
Also, Zircon, update this already :P
Fishy
12-07-2007, 12:11 PM
Bela D Media's Lyrical Distortion partially amped through Guitar Rig 2. Hoping to get Sixto or Fishy to hook it up with the real thing though.
You rang?
HoboKa
12-07-2007, 08:25 PM
Has it ever occured to you that when you're all 'high and mighty', you might still want to hear feedback on your mixes, even from 'nubs'? After all, the way you perceive your own mix will always be completely different from the way someone else hears it, so certain details will stand out, and others will get ignored. Having others listen to your mix is always a great way to get an objective look at it, no matter whether you're 'high and mighty' or a 'nub'.
Also, Zircon, update this already :P
Well then I guess it has occurred to me now that you've enlightened =P
evktalo
12-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Excellent orchestral intro and a lovely transition to the electronics. The first snare sounds a bit out of place.. but I can't quite pinpoint what's "wrong" with it. It sounds a bit too "thick". Don't know if that helps. :P Otherwise, very enjoyable and effortless sounding.
--Eino
zircon
01-11-2008, 04:52 AM
I finished this and now Sixto is adding guitars. Prepare to have your faces melted.
HoboKa
01-11-2008, 05:10 AM
oh noes!! I need that to liiive!! Oh well its a song worth having my face melted for :D
1makes2
01-11-2008, 03:12 PM
sounds quite good! i like how you blended the dnb elements with the rock and zircon elements! now you just need water and electricity elements and this song will be a chart topper! lol no but it does sound really good..... whenever i try to make dnb stuff the bass never sounds right.... how do you do it??
zircon
01-11-2008, 09:41 PM
The bass here is from Zebra 2, a modified version of a custom patch I made (uncreatively titled "Ultra Bass"). Here's a snapshot of the synthesis architecture.
http://www.zirconstudios.com/pics/ultrabass.JPG
And here's the FX chain - go from left to right, top to bottom.
http://www.zirconstudios.com/pics/ultrabassfx.JPG
The stereo volume slider there is linked to the kick for light sidechaining.
Sole Signal
01-11-2008, 10:32 PM
CamelCrusher +1
Great track too, can't wait for it.
Akurio
01-12-2008, 06:58 AM
Sounds great... Hope you put some more orch in eventually
1makes2
01-12-2008, 09:50 AM
The bass here is from Zebra 2, a modified version of a custom patch I made (uncreatively titled "Ultra Bass"). Here's a snapshot of the synthesis architecture.
And here's the FX chain - go from left to right, top to bottom.
The stereo volume slider there is linked to the kick for light sidechaining.
Thanks zircon for the tip!!!
you rock!!
The Derrit
02-20-2008, 04:51 AM
I haven't posted at all in awhile but I think this post is worth it. Bump for "this is still excellent, possible progress update if you can!" And of course, much congratulations on the Uematsu remix competition.
Koiu Lpoi
02-21-2008, 03:43 PM
Wow, just found this mix. Incredible job. I found myself just putting 1:09 - 1:40 on repeat. Can't wait to hear the rest!
zircon
02-21-2008, 04:04 PM
It has been done for like a month now, and subbed. Y'all will have to wait until it's posted.
I got Sixto onboard for all live guitars.
:)
The Derrit
02-21-2008, 06:35 PM
eeeeexcellent. can't wait!
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