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Sam Ascher-Weiss
11-12-2007, 03:35 AM
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big giant circles
11-12-2007, 03:40 AM
very very cool. really cool stuff, sam. i'm highly impressed 8)

makes me want to read the book again.

Jarvi
11-12-2007, 04:06 AM
Simply amazing, Ender's Game was one of the few books that made me read the entire series (all the books following Ender and the ones following Bean) as well as some other books by the same author.

DrumUltimA
11-12-2007, 04:29 AM
this is where it's at!!!!! i love your stuff sam, but you know that so i wont beat the bush around :D

Antipode
11-12-2007, 04:35 AM
I listened to the whole thing. This is fantastic! I've said I liked stuff before, but this seriously goes beyond words. Not only is it an excellent homage to Ender's Game, but it's a brilliant fusion of orchestral and electronic music. Thanks so much for releasing this to us. I'll be listening to this one for a long time to come.

C7
11-12-2007, 04:38 AM
wowowow! I just read this again for the 5th or 6th time and got my girlfriend into it all! I'm gonna be addicted to these, i know it.

Bahamut
11-12-2007, 05:02 AM
Hey, go answer Taucer's PM!


I've heard this a while ago, and I remember liking this. Nice Work :nicework:

OverCoat
11-12-2007, 05:22 AM
very nicẹ̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣

Mustin
11-12-2007, 05:26 AM
I know a girl that's going to love this. I'll let you know what she says.

LongeBane
11-12-2007, 06:47 AM
Well well, impressive Shnabubula! What were your inspirations and models for the various styles you have composed for in this suite?

OverCoat
11-12-2007, 06:52 AM
also hey sam guess what
(http://thasauce.net/modules.php?name=NewsTwo&file=article&sid=694)

Dave Harris
11-12-2007, 08:11 AM
I'm glad you finally decided to share this properly. Because really it's too good for people not to hear. Great! I don't know what to say that you haven't already heard anyway. I know; I'll give it another listen today to mark the occasion.

anosou
11-12-2007, 10:52 AM
I've pimped your webspace a lot and listened to a lot of your music (see http://www.last.fm/user/ErrfTheCricket/ for proof at the top artists section ;P). Needless to say, I like your music. Too bad you're not around OCR much these days, it would be nice to have a chat or something. Preferably a non-musical chat, I find it boring to talk too much about just music ;P

Much love

watkinzez
11-12-2007, 12:05 PM
I discovered this on your site around the same period I read Ender's Game for the first time. Rather excellent on both counts.

bladiator
11-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Love you Sam! I have a roommate that is an Ender's game fanatic, and I'm sure he's going to wet himself over this.

Red Shadow
11-12-2007, 02:21 PM
I've been listening to pretty much everything you have hosted on your site recently.

Quite enjoying this stuff.

The wingless
11-12-2007, 02:24 PM
Ender's game?!?!?! Blarghghghghghghh!

that's the sound a coma-orgasm.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta flash-suit up cuz I got a battle coming up, the second in a day! WHAT'S the I.F. TRYING TO DO TO MEEEEEE!?!? Shnabubula so good, dey say he piss on a plate and never splash.

RoeTaKa
11-12-2007, 04:28 PM
Man you've only just started to share this, about time! It's the biz. Listened to this again today, gave me some ideas for the stuff I'm doing. Start writing again! I'm not going to read the book yknow :P.

The Unsung Plumber
11-13-2007, 01:46 AM
Wooo, stuff from Sam!


Very nice work, it's good to still see ya working on stuff.

Everyone should check this out.

Katsurugi
11-13-2007, 04:36 AM
Reading.. with music?! It's like the one thing I hate with something I like! Awesome. It's like a movie in my head... but everyone speaks in the same voice...

LongeBane
11-13-2007, 05:15 AM
Really? Wow, I didn't expect you were influenced by people like Jeremy Robson or Zircon. I Barely even hear their styles in your Ender Suite.

Monobrow
11-13-2007, 05:22 AM
I'm actually the biggest influence, my musical style is like butta

The wingless
11-13-2007, 06:00 AM
Finally had time to sit down and listen to this. It's spectacular. The musical concepts are as varied as they are dynamic. It's like looking into a trillion-faceted diamond. Really amazing stuff.

You had mentioned nothing really came of this project. I can think of a thousand personal uses for even the tiniest snippets of this soundtrack.

You and I will have to keep in touch, nay?

Amayirot Akago
11-13-2007, 06:13 AM
Had a listen just now, I love it. Now I want to read the book.

Antipode
11-13-2007, 06:47 AM
Finally had time to sit down and listen to this. It's spectacular. The musical concepts are as varied as they are dynamic. It's like looking into a trillion-faceted diamond. Really amazing stuff.

You had mentioned nothing really came of this project. I can think of a thousand personal uses for even the tiniest snippets of this soundtrack.

You and I will have to keep in touch, nay?

I second all of this, since I just relistened to the whole thing and found it just as enjoyable as I did yesterday. I love just sitting there listening to this and picturing scenes from the book playing out in my mind. So many small details not only sound great but match up brilliantly to elements of the book.

Also, just as an aside, I was getting somewhat of a Tron vibe from the electronic parts in movements II and III, which is definitely a good thing.

herograw
11-13-2007, 07:23 AM
PFFTFPFFPTFPTFPFFTT, finally :P

DarkCecil13
11-14-2007, 06:00 AM
fucking awesome.

thanks for this <3

case
11-15-2007, 08:40 AM
very very cool. really cool stuff, sam. i'm highly impressed 8)

makes me want to read the book again.

That's pretty much word-for-word what I was thinking... Do NOT even think about passing this up, this is a must-listen. :)

Global-Trance
11-15-2007, 09:13 PM
Sounds like something worth checking out.

DJ SymBiotiX
11-16-2007, 12:09 AM
Hmm, this sounds like its gonna be awesome. Unfortunately I dont have time tonight, but when I do, Im definitely gonna take a listen.

Mr. Fox
11-16-2007, 12:22 AM
I never read Ender's Game, but I am completely blown away by the amount of detail, care and sophistication of these songs. It's not a secret that Sam is a composer who crafts his work with a lot of detail, and what we see here is this tendency developed to perfection. Inspirational stuff.

Now go make music for real books.
(Like Terry Pratchett DAMN IT!!!)

Imagist
11-16-2007, 12:30 AM
I never read Ender's Game, but I am completely blown away by the amount of detail, care and sophistication of these songs. It's not a secret that Sam is a composer who crafts his work with a lot of detail, and what we see here is this tendency developed to perfection. Inspirational stuff.

Now go make music for real books.
(Like Terry Pratchett DAMN IT!!!)

As someone who highly values Mr. Pratchett and all his works, I find it pretty much retarded that you imply Ender's Game isn't a "real" book.

Mr. Fox
11-16-2007, 12:37 AM
As someone who highly values Mr. Pratchett and all his works, I find it pretty much retarded that you imply Ender's Game isn't a "real" book.

That's because it's a joke. I find it pretty much retarded that you can't see that.

The wingless
11-16-2007, 12:54 AM
It really is a shame this isn't game related (what an ironic statement that is, given the book) because this desperately needs to be posted on the front page of *somewhere*.

I've listened to it every day since it came out because it's so musically dense and intricate I hear something new everytime.

Word. Needs. To. Get. Out.

LongeBane
11-16-2007, 01:10 AM
It really is a shame this isn't game related (what an ironic statement that is, given the book) because this desperately needs to be posted on the front page of *somewhere*.

I've listened to it every day since it came out because it's so musically dense and intricate I hear something new everytime.

Word. Needs. To. Get. Out.

You're totally right! As I've heard from sam, he worked DAMN hard on this suite. He had to work on each movement in segments, like each project file would contain 20 seconds of the movement, and he'd have to work like that, and then merge it all in the end! Imagine trying to finish a whole suite through that process.

Word needs to get out of the accomplishments of this man! I decided to post a digg article on this. Support Shnabubula!

http://digg.com/music/Beautiful_Musical_Retelling_of_novel_Ender_s_Game

Broken
11-16-2007, 01:12 AM
Wow, this sounds like it's going to be awesome. I remember Ender's Game. I read it a few years ago and loved it.

Congrats on the new release, you.

Sam Ascher-Weiss
11-16-2007, 01:12 AM
Much thanks Long! And also thank you for referring to me as the "famed shnabubula" ALSO a million thanks to everybody who's posted in this thread. I'm really glad you all enjoyed the piece.

PassivePretentiousness
11-17-2007, 05:06 PM
I've been listening to this for a while since shna linked me to it and it is probably my favorite thing I've heard by any member of this community. as others have said, it's unfortunate that there isn't really a vehicle for this to be better spotlighted than a thread. I've sent it to anyone who I thought might enjoy it irl and I recommend others do the same.

Antipode
11-18-2007, 10:25 AM
Back to the front page with you!

Also I dugg (digged?).

The Primoris
11-19-2007, 01:59 AM
It really is a shame this isn't game related

He could always rename it to Shnabubula Presents Zone of the Enders Game.

Anyway great music, very nice.

PassivePretentiousness
11-19-2007, 03:19 AM
Fine I will attempt a real review since everyone else including myself has simply gushed over it so far.

I only read Ender's Game about a month ago after having heard this. A lot. It's hard to get me to read much of anything, especially what ostensibly appeared to be Just Another Self-Glorifying Science Fiction Novel, and when all is said and done Ender's Game, and especially its sequel Speaker for the Dead are just that. However, Shnabubula has captured anything worthwhile in Card's book, carefully selected a handful of effective motifs, and transcribed the pacing and mood of the sections of the wok into each of his movements. The result is something for superior to the story itself.

It opens up with a childish melody that quickly splits into a carefully phrased synth choir, perfectly elucidating Ender's trite early life that was seemingly silly and transient in quarrels with his brother and neighborhood bullies, but in reality dangerous and very real. The choirs sing to his ability to overcome any obstacle, and another melody resolves the chaos into harmony at 1:59. It than flows tactfully into a softer orchestral tone to demonstrate his loving relationship with his sister Valentine, foreshadowing the fourth act. One can trace each explicit section, each motif, and each phrase to a definitive action found in the plot, but for me to do that would take the fun out of it for anyone who has or is willing to read the book.

My favorite track is the third, which is also my favorite part of the book. The synths' complexity and speed increases as the same motifs speaking of Ender's greatness continue to unfold before the listener's ears and the protagonist's juggling struggles of warfare and morality are exquisitely laid out. Shnabubula does not simply equal Card's success in creating a character of raw intelligence and creativity that could save the human race; he surpasses it. Rat-Bonzo is the mind of Ender in music. This is still while, of course, the track still develops the other aspects of the plot and characters.

As to everything else... well let's just say he couldn't have done any better in portraying these themes with the instruments he had. The transfused synth and orchestral is a style I haven't seen elsewhere, even in Sam's own work. If it exists, let me know because I'd love to hear it, but could there really be any better way of portraying the ideas of the book? The chaos, the greatness of Ender; the ultimate irony of the plot, the warmth of Valentine and darkness of Peter, the fast action, and the consistency of voice throughout. Sure, you knit-pick a tiny bit, but not a bloody lot. It would be nice if there was a real chorus, I guess. That's of course too much to ask from anyone but those with real financial clout, which is too much to ask for. This is far above in terms of production values anything he has offered overclocked remix, which as a baseline is hardly poor.

Please, listen to this in its entirety. If you have, do it again and concentrate more. Seemingly each time I've heard this, I feel like I understand more what both Shnabubula AND Orson Scott Card were getting at. If you haven't read the book, um, listen to this while you are reading the book. There is very little I will endorse without reservation, but this is an exception. Please, listen to this, enjoy it, and shove it others' faces as I have tried to do yours.

-RK-
11-19-2007, 04:28 AM
About time you actually released this. It's been fantastic for ages, and will continue to be.

Great work. Be proud of these shits.

ProjectSpam
11-20-2007, 01:55 AM
I heard this a while ago, and I've loved it since. I only wish I read the book so I could gain a deeper understanding for what Sam's done. Great work as always.

Monobrow
11-21-2007, 03:54 AM
like butta, I tell you

LongeBane
11-21-2007, 11:31 AM
deja vu .

Sam Ascher-Weiss
11-26-2007, 03:57 AM
COME JOIN ENDER'S DRAGON ARMY

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register today while there are still openings!


http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13315

Red Shadow
11-26-2007, 08:48 PM
you know, I've gotta say Splash Panther is my favorite of your original pieces. I really love the section from 0:37 to 1:00 in particular.

oh, and Hommage a Nakano is so ridiculously intricate that i have to mention it, too

herograw
11-27-2007, 01:23 AM
Fine I will attempt a real review since everyone else including myself has simply gushed over it so far.

I only read Ender's Game about a month ago after having heard this. A lot. It's hard to get me to read much of anything, especially what ostensibly appeared to be Just Another Self-Glorifying Science Fiction Novel, and when all is said and done Ender's Game, and especially its sequel Speaker for the Dead are just that. However, Shnabubula has captured anything worthwhile in Card's book, carefully selected a handful of effective motifs, and transcribed the pacing and mood of the sections of the wok into each of his movements. The result is something for superior to the story itself.

It opens up with a childish melody that quickly splits into a carefully phrased synth choir, perfectly elucidating Ender's trite early life that was seemingly silly and transient in quarrels with his brother and neighborhood bullies, but in reality dangerous and very real. The choirs sing to his ability to overcome any obstacle, and another melody resolves the chaos into harmony at 1:59. It than flows tactfully into a softer orchestral tone to demonstrate his loving relationship with his sister Valentine, foreshadowing the fourth act. One can trace each explicit section, each motif, and each phrase to a definitive action found in the plot, but for me to do that would take the fun out of it for anyone who has or is willing to read the book.

My favorite track is the third, which is also my favorite part of the book. The synths' complexity and speed increases as the same motifs speaking of Ender's greatness continue to unfold before the listener's ears and the protagonist's juggling struggles of warfare and morality are exquisitely laid out. Shnabubula does not simply equal Card's success in creating a character of raw intelligence and creativity that could save the human race; he surpasses it. Rat-Bonzo is the mind of Ender in music. This is still while, of course, the track still develops the other aspects of the plot and characters.

As to everything else... well let's just say he couldn't have done any better in portraying these themes with the instruments he had. The transfused synth and orchestral is a style I haven't seen elsewhere, even in Sam's own work. If it exists, let me know because I'd love to hear it, but could there really be any better way of portraying the ideas of the book? The chaos, the greatness of Ender; the ultimate irony of the plot, the warmth of Valentine and darkness of Peter, the fast action, and the consistency of voice throughout. Sure, you knit-pick a tiny bit, but not a bloody lot. It would be nice if there was a real chorus, I guess. That's of course too much to ask from anyone but those with real financial clout, which is too much to ask for. This is far above in terms of production values anything he has offered overclocked remix, which as a baseline is hardly poor.

Please, listen to this in its entirety. If you have, do it again and concentrate more. Seemingly each time I've heard this, I feel like I understand more what both Shnabubula AND Orson Scott Card were getting at. If you haven't read the book, um, listen to this while you are reading the book. There is very little I will endorse without reservation, but this is an exception. Please, listen to this, enjoy it, and shove it others' faces as I have tried to do yours.

FOR SUPERIOR~!!

The wingless
11-27-2007, 01:59 AM
COME JOIN ENDER'S DRAGON ARMY

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I've been meaning to ask you, what the fuck is this shit supposed to be?

Sam Ascher-Weiss
11-27-2007, 03:54 AM
I've been meaning to ask you, what the fuck is this shit supposed to be?

John are you being cute or intentionally hostile.. it's all explained here:

arnoldascher.com/Dragon.txt

I figured you'd support the cause. I got nuffin but love fo ya baby! =)

NZman
11-27-2007, 04:53 AM
What happened to the Ender's Game link?
The digg entry links to this thread, not directly to your Ender's Game compositions.
Is there any chance you could put the link back up in the first post?

Great stuff by the way.

herograw
11-27-2007, 05:31 AM
http://arnoldascher.com/Ender/

Antipode
09-19-2008, 10:45 PM
I wanted to bump this because I just listened to it again and it is genius.