View Full Version : OCR01044 - Sonic & Knuckles 'Angel'
djpretzel
09-24-2003, 12:56 AM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.
I've been waiting for this song to get posted. Probably one of DarkeSword's best mixes, definitely my favorite mix of his. I love S&K's Hidden Palace Zone, and I've yet to hear a bad remix of it. I really need to get my hands on that saxophone sample, too.
-DCT
DrumUltimA
09-24-2003, 01:08 AM
Beautiful-- absolute stunning. The solo was just a bit weak, but nothing big or anything. I love this mix.
DJ_Aquagenesis
09-24-2003, 01:25 AM
w00t. im gunna use a word that i rarely use, this mix is "pretty". :shoot me: but seriously, this is killer. i got my whole entire house to like this. it just sounds great.
Saif Blade
09-24-2003, 01:44 AM
Very good, 100000000000000/10
LegendarySword
09-24-2003, 05:38 AM
I played Sonic & Knuckles to death around the time of its release, but I don't remember this track in the game for the life of me.
This mix is very easy to get into. Nicely done and well composed. I can already see myself taking it easy from all those damn Engineering classes, kicking back in my chair in front of the comp, and playing this on MusicMatch, letting all my cares and worries fade away.
This is the first time I've ever posted on the forums and I have to say, nicely done! Very clear sounding and catchy.
EternalCalling
09-24-2003, 08:19 AM
This was the only Sonic remix i have ever liked. GJ!
DarkeSword
09-24-2003, 02:36 PM
I played Sonic & Knuckles to death around the time of its release, but I don't remember this track in the game for the life of me.
You can't have played it to death without remembering the awesomeness that is Hidden Palace Zone. :wink:
I've said this a few times, but it merits saying again. I freakin' love DarkeSword remixes.
I agree with djp's comment about this being your most mature work to date. There's a certain amount of dissonance and resolution in your harmonies that hasn't been as present in your other stuff. Sounds great :)
The processing/mastering stuff sounds wonderful. I think this mix is a perfect example for anyone who wants to learn how to use reverb to its fullest without muddying things up.
Anyway, not much to say that pretzel didn't already. Great stuff.
Fray.
Arc'engal
09-24-2003, 04:59 PM
This reminds me more of underwater music from Donkey Kong Country than the Hidden Palace Zone! I can't make out the original melody AT ALL. So therefore, great tune, bad remix.
Murmeli Walan
09-24-2003, 07:39 PM
I caught the Hidden Palace Zone tune as soon as I heard it. And the solo had a little bit of Lava Reef Zone in it too. Very nice, Darke. This is one of your best yet.
Good job on this. I like the drums; they keep stuff moving and interesting. Nice and dreamy stuffs.
DarkeSword
09-24-2003, 08:12 PM
This reminds me more of underwater music from Donkey Kong Country than the Hidden Palace Zone! I can't make out the original melody AT ALL. So therefore, great tune, bad remix.
Then you're clearly not familiar with Hidden Palace Zone.
Murmeli Walan
09-24-2003, 09:49 PM
This reminds me more of underwater music from Donkey Kong Country than the Hidden Palace Zone! I can't make out the original melody AT ALL. So therefore, great tune, bad remix.
Then you're clearly not familiar with Hidden Palace Zone.
In his defense, he could be thinking about Sonic 2's HPZ.
DarkeSword
09-24-2003, 11:24 PM
This reminds me more of underwater music from Donkey Kong Country than the Hidden Palace Zone! I can't make out the original melody AT ALL. So therefore, great tune, bad remix.
Then you're clearly not familiar with Hidden Palace Zone.
In his defense, he could be thinking about Sonic 2's HPZ.
Yeah, because obviously this mix is a remix of that song. It says so right up there. "Sonic the Hedg--" oh wait; it says "Sonic & Knuckles." :roll:
All sarcasm aside. Thanks everyone for the kind words. Personally, I think it's a fine REMIX. If you can't hear Hidden Palace in this song, go back and listen to Hidden Palace again, because the opening sax phrase is nearly verbatim. The chords might be throwing you off though.
/* Sweet & Sexy *\
09-25-2003, 03:49 AM
Vely vely good. I like it. Smooth, slow but not boring.
Very sweet remix. ^_^ Anyone looking for something to chill with on a bad day won't be disappointed with this one :D Great use of instruments, nice compression with the sounds, and the whole concept just sounds so stunning. :) Along with Beatdrop's Deep Damp Sandcastle, this could easily become one of my preferred tracks in the Sonic and Knuckles collection. :D
While we're here... is there anyone out there that can provide us with a Doomsday Zone remix? ^_^;
underthesun
09-26-2003, 12:27 AM
This sounds really really smooth and relaxing. Recommended!
kLuTz
09-26-2003, 04:11 AM
I don't usually comment on a lot of songs, certainly not cause they're not good, but..I dunno. But this song is.. Smoooooth :P.
Nice and sweet =).
kablammyman
09-26-2003, 06:22 AM
excellent...nothing more to say.
Eccles
09-26-2003, 08:44 AM
It plays the opening few seconds twice...though this is probably my browser playing up (booo IE)
Its pretty good...excellent choice of instruments (though the sax did sound a little cheesy at times in an 'and on offer in aisle four' kinda way)
But it gets very repetetive to me...I kept hearing crescendos in my head and feeling disappointed when they didnt come.
so overall...I dunno, Im not a huge fan of it, but that doesnt mean its especially bad.
DarkeSword
09-26-2003, 07:36 PM
I kept hearing crescendos in my head and feeling disappointed when they didnt come.
Where?
Subz1987
09-26-2003, 11:10 PM
this is an excellent piece. the sax part steals the show here, but i also like the backround. its also very close to the theme. good remix
How many words will it take to say i love this song.
The saxaphone is gorgeously luscious. Smooth jazz...
The overall composition is brillianly executed, and this is already a favorite of mine (and i cant even remember the original)
The sax solos are well thought out, as DJP said, without being self-indulgant (for lack of a better word)
First measure of Sax Reminds me of Cowboy Bebop (bonus points for nostalgia)
A+
Theres nothing wrong in this one.
robochar
09-27-2003, 06:04 PM
wow! this was abostuely beautiful! I'm not a big fan of jazz for the most part but this was one of those exceptions. Its a very soft Jazz and fits the song more than I ever would of guessed O__O. Its great!
Uberwulf X
10-04-2003, 12:47 AM
I'm loving the jazzy feel, that's no doubt. That sax is really playin' it up.
Also, the fact that I can easily hear Lava Reef is a good nod back to the gameplay (for those to con't remember right away, Lava Reef 2 leads directly down to Hidden Palace). On my playlist, for sure.
..........
10-16-2003, 09:51 PM
Yes, great remix. 'Nuff said.
Also, the fact that I can easily hear Lava Reef is a good nod back to the gameplay (for those to con't remember right away, Lava Reef 2 leads directly down to Hidden Palace).
Yes, in fact, the music for Lava Reef Zone Act 2 and the Hidden Palace Zone is the same. (The Stage Select in the game lists HPZ as "Lava Reef Act 4", too)
DarkAura
03-10-2004, 11:10 PM
I didn't like the remix. It just didn't hold true to the "awesome" reviews it was getting. A sax doesn't do this song justice. I'm sorry, but the remix wasn't really worth my time. The Hidden Palace music was taken waaaay too fast for my liking, and no beat makes for a no-brainer.
Axe Canabrava
04-06-2004, 04:46 AM
I didn't like the remix. It just didn't hold true to the "awesome" reviews it was getting. A sax doesn't do this song justice. I'm sorry, but the remix wasn't really worth my time. The Hidden Palace music was taken waaaay too fast for my liking, and no beat makes for a no-brainer.
Keep it into your opinion... first you say it doesn't deserve any praise, but all the reasons you came up with are just a matter of opinion. This is a remix site, and although I like remixes that sound just like the original (Golden Axe "Golden Axe 2002", for example), I think "remixes" are by definition a new take on things.
DarkeSword
05-19-2004, 04:00 PM
I didn't like the remix. It just didn't hold true to the "awesome" reviews it was getting. A sax doesn't do this song justice. I'm sorry, but the remix wasn't really worth my time. The Hidden Palace music was taken waaaay too fast for my liking, and no beat makes for a no-brainer.
No beat?
There's very strong beat there.
Derk_wtf
06-14-2004, 10:46 PM
I caught the Hidden Palace Zone tune as soon as I heard it. And the solo had a little bit of Lava Reef Zone in it too. Very nice, Darke. This is one of your best yet.
Well, seeing as the Hidden Palace Zone song is the exact same song as the Lava Reef zone act 2, that makes sense...
Anyway, great remix of the song. It's a great song to chill out to...
SirRus
09-25-2004, 05:29 AM
I was listening to the Tony Montana song with Darkesword and as I commented on that, I really can't get enough of Shariq's tasteful use of sax and bass, and of course here we have all that and more. Can't believe I overlooked this one, a very relaxing piece that definitely fits the mature description.
DarkeSword on saxophone is always good. I have listened your "Party in the Snowland"; sounds very sweet with the sax too. Personally this ReMix is good for my taste. Very pleasant and beautiful.
Son_of_Thunder
04-17-2005, 06:26 AM
I loved the old sonic sidescrollers, and to me sonic and knuckles when latched onto sonic 3 was the best in the series...and it just so happens that i always liked hidden palace zone the best. HPZ was the calm before the storm, and this music fits it perfectly.
great job.
Bummerdude
04-28-2006, 06:25 AM
This saxophone sample sounds for real, it echoes perfectly away....
Wha..? Where was I? Oh yes. AWESOME remix. Usually when I think about a piece with both a sax and piano in it, then it's jazz. However, this clearly isn't jazz, it's way to happy. It must be the fact that the bass is missing. However, jazz or no jazz, this arrangement was swell to listen to. No complaints, no annoying sounds nor samples. This remix is like a river, you'll just float with it.
Nice work, DS.
KogeJoe
01-29-2007, 07:40 AM
I'm not sure this could count as a "re-mix" as it could count as an entirely new work based off of melodies and countermelodies of another work.
Though I could hear the counter melody present in the source in the background, and the main melody given to the sax, I think the new chords, rhythm and speed give Lava Reef (after) an entirely new feel.
GREAT work. Ideal for relaxing out on a summer beach. I could be playing this as I watch the sun set driving on Hwy 1 in Big Sur.
GREAT work.
Imho, the saxophones here deflate this mix; they sound off-key/flat and nasally. Otherwise this mix would be jaw dropping. That feathery piano work, those quick, light, steady drums. It feels like everything in this mix is holding its collective breath and the saxes causes everything to have a giant cough/sneeze/hiccup. Still I still feel that everything else makes up for this track's flaws and this track is worth a listen.
Excellent percussion and piano on this track, I really love this sound. Saxes are serviceable. Not as good as bummerdude says, but now as bad as 42 says. Interpretation was very strong on this one, and the flow of the track was really good.
pretty good work, I approve!
Level 99
02-17-2010, 06:35 PM
This song is so unbelievably chill yet light it feels kind of like flying. I was very much reminded of the progression style that Dire Dire Docks uses to convey free-motion.
The piano here is soft and spot-on, and the sax, while not the most convincing of samples, is mixed and written so well that it fits. Just the same way chiptunes have their appeal, so do these kinds of samples in they way they lack the humanized timing and breathing when written for properly.
My only real critique is the drums, which are adequate but could have had a little more done with them. Regardless, this is a great song on anyone's studying or chill playlist.
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