View Full Version : OCR01045 - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 'SoS'
djpretzel
09-27-2003, 03:35 AM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.
endblink
09-27-2003, 03:52 AM
Something's wrong with the MP3 file.
It's only 1:44 long.
vega12
09-27-2003, 03:56 AM
When I first checked it was 288KB, now it is over 2MB. I think it is still being uploaded. Patience...
EDIT: I think it is done at 4:44. There is one thing I should point out though; the Supertux mirror has a 500KB version...
Listening to the song...
I'm liking this guitar work! It's not fast paced or anything, just good. It seems to be deviating from the source a lot now. It's been going off on a tangent for about a minute now I think :?. Hey, that break at 3:10 is a nice change of pace. I guess I can still sort of hear the theme hidden there somewhere. There it is! Decent ending.
All in all though, a pretty static piece. The guitar work is quite good, it just seemed to be the same feeling the whole song without much of a climax or any dynamics. Regardless, this is still a piece that I'm sure many people will enjoy and I'm sure it will grow on me after a few listenings. After all, the source material is so catchy :).
Kamikaze Noodle
09-27-2003, 07:18 AM
Well, I'm finally BACK! My computer has been fixed and the first thing I did was come here and check out this song. After playing with so many guitarists I've come to this conclusion: they love to hear themeselves play. Now I do enjoy guitar solos in many different styles of music, especially slide, but this here is not my cup of tea. The chord progression gets stale after so long, and the whole song is very static without much variation. The soloing sounds very lost 2:40 - 3:02 and the transition to the wah could've been better. Those are the things that keep this from bein just awesome. I swear, with a little more variation and a shorter length, this could've been somethin' real sweet. The ideas are here and everything, I just don't think it was pulled off as well as it could've. I absolutely LOVE the wah solo, it's just sheer awesomeness, but I don't like sitting through what seems like hours of meandering distorted guitar. =(
Oh well, :nicework:
well..
there are definetly some good ideas here but i'm afraid the best of them may be concentrated in the beginning and the end - basically the arrangement of the windmill theme. it's well written but everything else is a jumbled mess.
you can solo but not very convincingly. the biggest question for a guitarist is when to and when not to do something... there's alot of the "when not to" goin on here... my main concerns are with the transitions and some of the phrasing is just a little odd.
but what i do like... excellent little runs between 2:10-2:26 that i wish you had cleaned up a bit cuz they showed a lot of promise. there are times where you exhibit a clear understanding of jam lead and there are other times when the song walks around headless. the cry baby section is interesting but again i sense a taste of disparity and gratuity in it... the tone is nuts, of course... but we expect that from the cry baby; i'm actually recording a track with a cry baby solo of its own... can't blame you for using it.
again, i guess my biggest qualm with the mix is its lack of coherence as a piece of music.... it has fine details to it that will perk my ears up but then as a whole, bores me. you are a good guitarist, dude - i hope you write something a little more engaging next time, i'd love to hear more of your work.
~weed
Hey now. What happened to guitarrists that don't NEED solos? Come on.
See, the song starts really neat. Sounding somewhat like a spanish song, with that rhythm and all. Then, BAM, ludicrously long and messy solo. Hell, not only ONE solo, but TWO solos.
Too many solos. It's as if he's trying to compensate for the song being so short in the original by making the rest of the song an improvisation. I mean, that's an OK idea, but the solos aren't even going along the same line as the original song.
They just derail the neatness that gets started in the begining. See, now this is a good example of how improvisation != mindless playing. It should have a form of some sort, specially if you're trying to fill gaps in a song that's too short to begin with.
Also, um, the choice of effects is pretty questionable. I mean, the electric guitar just doesn't work very well as it completely makes the accoustic vanish in the background. There's no sound balance, and then with the wahwah he's literally just doing whatever he wants and then abbruptly going back to the start.
No transitions of any kind. The song's more like a display of ..um, technique, I guess, than a real song.
z38stinger
09-27-2003, 06:14 PM
Holy cheeseturtles, batman! This remix owns. If you remotely enjoyed the Song of Storms/ Windmill Theme from Zelda: OOT, DL THIS NOW! Its got that coolness about it. LoL. GJ SOS ON A FIRST REMIX! A JYORB WELL DONE!
jezon2000
09-27-2003, 10:09 PM
Very very nice.
Majin GeoDooD
09-27-2003, 11:27 PM
I'm lovin this, lots.. I told a friend on IRC to go get it, and:
<-(@+SleazyC)-> mpł[SAiNT 420 - Zelda 64 SoS OC ReMix] - [http://www.ocremix.org] - [04:43/128kbps/4.33MB] [S|eazySkript]
<-(@+SleazyC)-> wow
<-(@+SleazyC)-> this fucking rocks
<-(@+SleazyC)-> the opening
<-(@+SleazyC)-> i love it
* @+SleazyC goes to grab his guitar
neostormx
09-27-2003, 11:38 PM
this is something i love to listen to.
i just wish it was mixed properly :/
Ticadrius
09-28-2003, 04:13 AM
As Don Malarkey in Band of Brothers said, "Bout damn time."
For a Song of Storms remix, that is. This song has been pleading for a remix for ages, all to no avail. Several WIPs, but no dice, until now. As a huge fan of the original, I was quite juiced when I saw this on the main page. I quickly downloaded it.
But the mix is lackluster. For about the first minute it stays on top of the original, then ventures miles away from it. I was really craving and expecting a remix that was much closer to the original, so I was a bit disappointed.
By itself, it stands well. Nice pair of solos, good backing guitar, though it doesn't effectively replace drums and bass (which are distinctively lacking), and the wah-effect at about 3'11 rekindles interest in the mix.
All in all, not a bad mix, per se, but quite a disappointment for fans of the original.
Hadyn
09-28-2003, 10:40 AM
It's good, but i don't really keep interest that much. Still, nice guitar skills :)
~raven
Metasquares
09-28-2003, 12:25 PM
I'm not really into solo/almost solo guitar pieces, but this is a nice piece.
*Drasiir
09-28-2003, 05:12 PM
When the majority of the song is a solo that seemingly has nothing to do with the original song, you have a problem.
Klondike
09-29-2003, 08:53 AM
As much as I want to love this song, and adore the first minute and a half or so of it, I find myself agreeing with the people who say that the wandering is too incoherent and too long. I have no problem with mixes going away from the source (Rayza's Shinobi 3 Whirlwind Mix drops it completely sometimes), but the soloing just doesn't have a very enjoyable melody, it's pointless screwing around. It's too bad, cause the first 1:30 and the last minute or so are superb.
Indeed. Great guitar work but it's just kinda there for a long time. This would prolly be great music to smoke out to. =P
Samurai Jin
10-03-2003, 06:35 PM
got one thing to say.... the electric is great... the hendrix wannabe solo is pretty good... but lose that dang friggin acoustic guitar clicks... you arent the el mariachi! only el Mariachi deserves to use acoustic guitars... other than that keep up the good work. :D
I love this. even if the first solo gets a little long, it sounds really good, and doesnt deviate THAT much from the real theme, wich, besides, its clearly emphasized with the accoustic guitar in the bg, making it enjoyable. well, I guess I like long guitar solos, and this is one I enjoyed pretty much. the wah is an orgasm. high skills there, and all troughtout the song, I must say. maybe if the accoustic guitar remarked the original windmill theme all trough the song, it would be better oriented, but it is indeed one helluva song, and a very interesting twist to the windmill noise. I love it. get it NOW!
Cano
risingson77
10-10-2003, 03:02 AM
OK mix, but very "noodley" as others have said. All-in-all, I like the soft, echoey sound. It seems to fit the basic idea behind the mix. It could just be a bit more focused and perhaps a minute or so shorter.
pokezel
11-15-2003, 06:21 PM
Oh man, This song is beautiful. I love the unplugged electric, always have. The plugged is also great, though I dont like it as much as the unplugged. Also, the hard guitar is a bit too hard for this song, combined with the unplugged. Even though it dosent fit, it matches and goes well, and thats good. My favorite part of this remix is the wah piece at the end. Wahs have always been my favorite guitar effect, and now I love them even more. The only problem I have with this remix is its a bit too quiet..... its not too bad, because I can just turn it up! :P
I can imagine like 4 guys around a campfire playing this song.... that would be bliss.....
- Ethan
kirbenvost
02-02-2004, 10:22 AM
I love guitars! Especially when they're played well! :D And that's what's been done here... this is awesome! Could use some normalizing in a final mix to get those volume levels up, but otherwise it's really great. :D
Cadmus
05-31-2004, 12:39 AM
Indeed. Great guitar work but it's just kinda there for a long time. This would prolly be great music to smoke out to. =P
my thoughts exactly....it's laid back, it's chill, but underneith it's complex enough to ponder over. good stuff.
Impassioned Havoc
06-01-2004, 05:51 AM
Indeed. Great guitar work but it's just kinda there for a long time. This would prolly be great music to smoke out to. =P
my thoughts exactly....it's laid back, it's chill, but underneith it's complex enough to ponder over. good stuff.
I'll point out that the track is done by SAiNT 420. I'll just leave it at that.
Anyway, I like this mix. It was one of the first songs I downloaded on OCR, and I've yet to hear anything that resembles it in the least. You won't come across a mix like this too often... and I think that's too bad. I agree that the soloing begins to get tedious after a while, but I love the mixing of different guitars, and smooth flow of the song. It's relaxing, and satisfying. Thumbs up.
JC123
06-14-2004, 01:58 PM
This is a very hard song to judge for me. I can't explain in words why I like it. But the emotions of serenity I get as for the past 4 minutes and 43 seconds I've listened to a song that literally clears my head of a rough day at work... awe inspiring.
To me, it's a very powerful song that captures and keeps my attention. As it stands, it's something I use to mainly keep calm, meditate on the day, and just not think on the challenges of tomorrow.
I sure hope there's more songs like this one that I've yet to discover. This song is why I like the acoustic guitar so much. :)
Cheeszeman_
10-09-2004, 02:51 PM
this song is.... rather interesting, i find it hard to judge aswell
because the Song of Storms is an awesome tune, and so is this... i find that it gets rather old after the first 2 minutes of it, good variety and all, but its basically the same thing over and over and over for 4 and a half minutes!
The_Wind_Waker8
01-14-2005, 10:43 PM
Great song. It deas get old after a while. I wonder if it has anything to do with the title, "SoS". And yet I just realized what it means... DUH! :P Man, am I dense.
anosou
05-26-2005, 06:21 PM
I LOVE THIS
Ever since I started listening to OC-remixes a good version of Song of Storms from zelda 64 (togeter with a good version of sarias song , still waitn') was all I wanted to hear to get nostalgic.
FINALLY someone has done it, and man SAiNT 420 did it GOOD!
I've listened through this eight bazillion times by now and the only thing I can say about that is NOT positive is the first distorted guitar solo is kinda hard to listen to.
Otherwise this is one of my all time favorites, maybe bexause I'm a guitarist and zelda lover but admit it, it IS catchy.
Good call SAiNT!
BTW, I surfed in on his website and find a version with drums and synth that was even better :O listen to that one!
Maybe SAiNT can change this one to the full arrangement over time?
Anyways, good remix, listen if you've played zelda OoT, otherwise.. listen anyway :P
Final_metroid
08-17-2005, 12:51 PM
This song is phenomonal! (Did I spell that right?) It might be my headphones but the only complaint I have is the song is way too soft!
Magical Ninja
08-19-2005, 04:32 AM
This was one of the first OCR's i heard ,and its still awesome.
MrBogus
11-27-2005, 12:18 AM
First, the bad -- I have to agree with the majority of the listeners regarding this mix. Aside from the general "noodling" as previously mentioned, the production values are sorely lacking. It sounds like someone doing a demo in his room and recording it onto a cassette tape. I have wavered numerous times between keeping this mix and outright deleting it from my collection.
With that said, you guys definitely need to check out SAiNT's homepage: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/saint420. He took the time to actually remaster this track. Although the basic structure is still the same and there will inevitably still be complaints of rambling notes, SAiNT ups the production factor by no less than 10x. The lead guitar is re-EQed, the track is remastered at a super-high bitrate, drums and a bass are added, the SoS theme is revisted more flavorfully after the 2nd solo, and the song finishes on a strong ending. This should have been the definitive version posted to OCR. Grab this now, before yet another independent artist's webpage goes the wayside of the 404 error.
By the way, also grab his Duck Tales remix there while your at it. Somewhat coarse on the drums, but good nonetheless.
SAiNT, I didn't think much of your playing before, due mostly to the aforementioned issues on the original lackluster recording, but my opinion has done a 180 U-turn since. If you ever read this, keep churning out the good stuff. Props.
Radiowar
05-11-2006, 01:12 AM
This sounds like something from The Sky Moves Sideways-era Porcupine Tree. That might be why the long solos didn't bother me as much. I really like this remix, but the mixing was kinda weird. Bad levels and stuff. I'm definitely keeping this one though.
edit: I take back what I said about the mixing and stuff. Maybe I just had the volume to high on my headphone's volume control thingy. It's actually perfect.
Geoffrey Taucer
05-11-2006, 01:27 AM
Sweet song, gorgeous tone on all the guitars, and it has a wah-wah.
What more could you possibly ask for?
lady zelda
05-11-2006, 05:30 PM
Great guitar, great mood, great salute to the original. Great in every way! Keep it up! This is awesome music to chill to.
duane
07-17-2009, 05:37 AM
wow. speechless. that was like, a journey, or a questing or something. very emotive. that performance creates imagery and texture. very impressive.
socrates271
10-13-2009, 12:01 AM
hey is this song free to use?
Emunator
10-13-2009, 12:29 AM
Well, despite the wonky volume levels and overall production being a bit below the bar, this mix has its redeeming merits. It's got a pretty neat mood and is the kind of thing you can drift off into daydreaming while listening to. The arrangement is unfocused which I can see turning a lot of people off, but for the most part this is pretty good. It's not a favorite of mine but when I'm in the right mood it's easy to get lost in this song.
Socrates: Check over the Content Policy (http://www.ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy) to see if that answers your question.
This one ran way long for my tastes, and the sound balance was pretty weak, with the leads often too buried or too prevalent, and the arrangement meanders. Decent overall, but more like a WIP than a finished piece, and way too much soloing for my tastes. Some wrong notes in the middle solo also hurt it.
Can't say i'm a fan, sorry. :-(
MajoraLon
07-14-2010, 02:27 PM
:smile: I highly enjoyed this mix. The night I downloaded it we had a huge storm and I went out on my porch and danced to it. One of the best experiences in my life.
While I can't blame some people for not liking it, imo it one of the best on here. It was also one of the first mixes I ever heard.
Nearly
12-12-2010, 01:20 PM
While It's impossible to deny that the mixing is a tad rough, I think it has an overall positive on the effect of the atmosphere. It's just a purely emotive piece, and precisely what the original song asks for.
And I didn't find it too long at all. Because the soloing rarely repeats itself it flies by.
MechaFone
12-12-2010, 04:35 PM
This remix was fantastic. It made me nod my head, there was little if no repetition, and it just made me zone out and made me feel all smooth and shiny.
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