View Full Version : Glover - Love of Glove
JH Sounds
03-23-2008, 12:03 PM
Here's a dance-ified arrangement of a tune from Glover, made by request:
*earlier version removed*
My remix (updated): "Love of Glove" (v2) (http://www.zshare.net/audio/9656216f21fd47/)
Source tune: Glover (PS1) - "Space1" (http://files1.mailboxdrive.com/freemp3s/v/videogamesrockk@aol.com/723152.mp3)
HoboKa
03-23-2008, 10:30 PM
ARRANGEMENT / INTERPRETATION
[X] Too conservative - sticks too close to the source
[X] Borrows heavily from non-source material (it's a simplistic dance pattern)
PRODUCTION
[X] Too quiet
[X] Low-quality samples
[not for this genre] Unrealistic sequencing
[X] Generic/cliche sound choices
[X] Drums have no energy
PERFORMANCE (live recorded audio/MIDI parts)
STRUCTURE
[X] Not enough changes in sounds (eg. static texture, not dynamic enough)
[X] Pace too plodding
[X] Too repetitive
[X] Abrupt ending
PERSONAL COMMENTS
The choir/vox is weak IMO, the drums need more oomph ESPECIALLY for a dance song. No one wants to dance to a weak beat :'(. Just compress the drums a bit and maybe layer them with panning techniques to make them come out more. And I also think that this remix is a bit of a downgrade from the original, just because it has a more filled-out soundscape and better sequenced drums (sorry man). Moreover, this wip needs a few more supporting instruments, a counter melody and some other ear candies, as the composition itself is overly simplistic and repetitive. I've been through this before and still am trying to make my way through it, but I gotta be honest. If I lied to you, and you submitted this and got instantly rejected, I wouldn't be doing you a favor. You've got potential though :). (and as a positive side, your bass sample is nice, just its line needs more variety :D)
zircon
03-23-2008, 10:58 PM
FYI.. for the form.. please put an "X" next to the items that you feel are relevant, and DELETE the ones you are not using. Don't put "N" next to them.
HoboKa
03-23-2008, 11:22 PM
FYI.. for the form.. please put an "X" next to the items that you feel are relevant, and DELETE the ones you are not using. Don't put "N" next to them.
alright...jeez. At least I'm trying to critique other people's works, unlike the five billion other people who come here and post F*** all.
HoboKa
03-23-2008, 11:25 PM
ARRANGEMENT / INTERPRETATION
[X] Too liberal - not enough connections to the source (too much original writing)
[X] Borrows heavily from non-source material (it's a simplistic dance pattern)
PRODUCTION
[not for this genre] Unrealistic sequencing
[X] Generic/cliche sound choices
[X] Drums have no energy
PERFORMANCE (live recorded audio/MIDI parts)
STRUCTURE
[X] Not enough changes in sounds (eg. static texture, not dynamic enough)
[X] Too repetitive
[X] Too short
[X] Abrupt ending
Are you crazy? :? This is anything but too close to the original. All that's taken from the original is 2 verses (1 of which is only played once). It's without a doubt not close enough to the original.
TIPS:
Use more melodies from original
Make it sound more space-ish
Make it less repetitive
Make it longer
Make it soundslower
Use wider vartiety of soundfonts/instruments
Sorry I didn't hear the original enough it seems.
HoboKa
03-23-2008, 11:40 PM
No, nor is it worth triple posting. But I feel obliged to answer you. When you get vexed, you tend to not think clearly ;-).
JH Sounds
03-23-2008, 11:45 PM
PRODUCTION
[not for this genre] Unrealistic sequencing
Wait... what? The wording here confuses me a bit.
HoboKa
03-23-2008, 11:53 PM
Wait... what? The wording here confuses me a bit.
actually I meant that it doesn't matter that it sounds fake, thus the "not for this genre" answer. Because its a dance beat. It's okay if it sounds robotic for techno/dance. At least that's what I've been lead to believe.
JH Sounds
03-23-2008, 11:54 PM
Oh, all right. Thanks for the critiques.
JH Sounds
03-25-2008, 02:06 AM
Do you plan on updating it?
I dunno. I wasn't really planning much beyond satisfying the basic request. My free time is devoted to finishing up my entry for the writing competition as of now. :wink:
Liontamer
03-25-2008, 04:32 AM
I think only remixes to games that are listed in the remix library are allowed to be submitted. :roll:
Are you kidding me? That's some of the worst misinformation I've ever seen around here. :lol:
HoboKa
03-25-2008, 05:54 AM
Are you kidding me? That's some of the worst misinformation I've ever seen around here. :lol:
lmao 10 char
Rozovian
03-25-2008, 10:32 PM
Interesting source.
Snare is weak and doesn't quite fit the the soundscape. The next snare/clap isn't any better (tho the snare roll is). Choir is way too dry, more release, more reverb.
It's repetitive.
The lead is too loud, and I think you've EQd the bass drum too far down. If I remember correctly, you should be boosting 100-150Hz where the punch is (correct me someone if I'm wrong).
You need to work on making it more interesting, adding depth to it.
Sorry this is all negative. You've avoided some newb pitfalls but not others. It does sound like you've got potential to make good remixes, with time and practice. Listen and compare the sound levels, punch, soundscaping, in remixes as well as commersial music.in related genres. Learn to listen, and then listen to your own track.
Good luck!
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