Zelda: Oracle of Ages 'Essence of Lime' [See community board]

[Hylian Lemon]

We've released! See the community thread (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29831) for links and comments.

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Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPRks6SPfbE)

Essence of Lime is an unofficial remix project covering the soundtrack of The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages. Music appearing only in Oracle of Seasons will not be covered...yet. stay tuned

History:
I announced this album as a one-man remix project in May 2008. Hence the citrusy pun on "essence of time." Gradually, people offered their help until the project was finally "officially" opened to other remixers. The project was completed in June 2010.


Project forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com) (contributors, please join)


Full track list here (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=1) (all tracks finished)


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[PhiJayy]

This track is awesome. I love the intro strings, and the electronic synthesizers.
Sounds real good.
I'm looking forward to the completion of the project.

[progressive]

Sounds great to me. I looked for the source track at vgmusic and I couldn't find anything about an intro scene. That said, I think the mix becomes very good very quickly, but the strings in the beginning sound pretty synthy against your lush pizzicato strings until the drums and 8-bit bleeps and blips come in. After that, things mesh really well. The arpeggiating square wave that comes in about halfway through seems a bit piercing. Maybe cutting it in and out would add some interest and tone it down? Tempo change near the end was nicely done. Overall, really great stuff.

[Hylian Lemon]

Thanks for the comments! I'll work on that stuff.

In the meantime, I have this youtube video with the intro music in it. Vgmusic does have the first part of the intro (listed under Oracle of Seasons, since it's the same song), but not the rest of the source I included in the remix.

Oracle of Ages intro (http://youtube.com/watch?v=84akuCdXwhg)

[blue.nocturne]

1:11 and 2:17 sounds a tad too loud, it sorta hurts because it's so high pitch. It sounds pretty awesome so far, but I would say to watch the really high pitch square noises, especially the ones that are held for a long time. Also, the flute's tone quality annoys me, it's so prominent but it sounds fake and it could sound a lot better with a better flute. However, I really liked what you have so far, keep it up!

[Hylian Lemon]

All right, new version! You would not believe how hard it is to edge my way onto our laptop (our desktop is waay too old to sustain much Fruity Loops action).

[link removed]

So what's new?

-Cloned string track a couple times, raised and lowered clones an octave, lowered volumes of the clones (I heard this was a good technique). And I messed with the string velocities a bit in the intro.
-Toned down the high-pitched eardrum raids of the main synth
-Looked for another flute sample for forever, but couldn't find one that sounded good in the song
-Ended up pairing one of the better flutes with the original
-Made flute echoey in the intro
-Added a bit in between the two slowdowns at the end of the song
-Adjusted some instrument volumes, especially the bass

So let me know how it sounds!

[Salluz]

If it's not over yet, I want to be in it.

[Hylian Lemon]

All right, I'm going to send you a message with some more details and guidelines and whatnot.

In other news, I have been busy on my PRC entry this week, but I have gotten some feedback for this track on the irc channel. Once I get back home on July 7th or so, I'll get back to work on this (expect more material in the middle).

[SLyGeN]

Just thought I'd pop in here and say I'm looking forward to a few of the tracks in this game, especially Ambi's Tower.

I *may* have a clarinet player for you, if you want it, but my recording equipment can hardly be considered par.

[Hylian Lemon]

SLyGeN: I'm not sure subpar recording equipment would be worth the effort, but thanks for the offer.

After having received feedback on #ocrwip, I have made some changes, so here we go. Links have been updated.

[link removed]

Mainly I've added about a minute of new material in the middle. I've also altered the ending a bit because multiple people felt that the tempo shouldn't slow down twice in such close proximity.

[Hylian Lemon]

Yes, a double post, but with good reason! It is time to move on. Essence of Lime [the remix] will remain open to critique for a while, but after a while I'll lock it in for submission to places and whatnot.

The big news is: I have a new track to present!

[link removed] (Wing Dungeon - source in video below)

This is a collab between chickenwarlord and me, and we decided to try something a bit interesting. We both created two or three short clips, completely unrelated to each other. We then decided on an order and fused them together into one song. The result is a remix with a variety of moods and styles that suddenly change into each other (hence the title). I think it's rather fitting for a dungeon in which your two most important items are so different - bombs and a feather.

Because of this, I'm not sure if the judges here would even accept it after reworkings. However, either way, we are still interested in feedback, so shoot away.

Source - Wing Dungeon (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1QyNoCiGSn4)

[WindGuru]

Oh my god. Just oh my god.

Seriously, Oracle of Ages was one of my fondest memories as a kid. Thanks for doing this project guys, its brought a lot back (EssenceofLime's been playing for hours on a constant loop XD).

Are you going to do Ralph's theme at some point? Just asking.

[Hylian Lemon]

Yes, yes, Ralph's theme is a must. Right now I have several other songs under construction, though.

I have a lot of memories of Oracle of Ages, too, which is why I started the project. Huddled in the stuffy closet, straining to see the screen, using a pair of headphones because the speakers didn't work...but thoroughly enjoying it. It was my first Zelda game.

Anyway, thanks for posting, and I'm glad I have pleased a fellow OOA fan. XD

[Berty200]

GASPITY GASP GASP!!!

I just played through the Oracle games (linked) this week. I'm really excited.

[Hylian Lemon]

I've been working extra hard this week to bring you...

[link removed] (Mermaid's Cave, Cave - Sources below)

This one was inspired by Darkesword's amazing Metroid Prime work. That's not to say it's anywhere near as good, but I'm feeling pretty darn good about it.

Anyway, there are now three tracks open for critique. Feel free to comment on any of them.

Sources:
Mermaid's Cave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDuWfOMS0s)
Cave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfehDxze_cA)

[WindGuru]

Very good; I can definately see Darkesword's influence.

Sutiably eerie, but also slightly different to how I always imagined it. I dunno, maybe I hear too much of Link's Awakening in there instead of the old melody.

Awesome anyhow.

[Gust Man]

Awesome! This brings memories of my last days in 8th grade, I had nothing to do but play oracle of ages and seasons. Gosh, those were the days. Um are you planning on arranging the skull dungeon theme too? That and the mermaid dungeon theme were my favorite songs.

[Mirby]

This is a good idea. Reminds me to finish my 5th playthrough of the two.

[Hylian Lemon]

Hmm, looks like somebody made the title more official/clear while I wasn't paying attention. Nice, nice.

And thanks for the comments. Yes, Skull Dungeon is one of my favorite songs, so it will be remixed for sure at some point. Right now chickenwarlord and I are putting together a house/Maku Road remix, and I have several other tracks in their beginning stages. Not to mention I plan on tweaking Ripples of Time a bit in the near future (I was told that it has too many breaks).

School's started, and I have several work-intensive classes this year (aaahh), but I'll do my best to keep going. The worst that could happen is that I'll take a little longer than usual to come out with new tracks (I know, I know, "I didn't know that was possible").

[WindGuru]

Awesome, Maku Road!

You're doing a great job Lemon, this is all brilliant stuff!

[JH Sounds]

Hmm, looks like somebody made the title more official/clear while I wasn't paying attention. Nice, nice.

Yeah, my thread was changed, too. Now it doesn't match my sig. :-o What's up with that?

[Hylian Lemon]

I'm thinking it must have to do with the current discussion at the top of the board.

We do want to improve the visibility of the forums and ease for artists to receive feedback

[Rozovian]

It has to do with improving the wip board for sure, but I recall seeing thread title changes before that thread (or its short-lived predecessor) was posted, on mithius' project thread.

btw, the new thread needs your feedback.

[Hylian Lemon]

[link removed] has been updated to fill in some of the breaks. Make sure to post any comments you may have about it, even if they're like "I liked the first one better D:"

Just make sure to be specific about it.

Also, I'd like to call [link removed] done. If anyone has some critique for it, they'd better speak up before my next update. Mmkay?

[Hylian Lemon]

The house/Maku Road collab is taking a bit longer than expected, but in the meantime...

[link removed] (Moonlit Grotto)

Significance of title
The item of Moonlit Grotto, the seed shooter, can shoot any of your seeds like a slingshot. However, unlike the slingshot from Seasons, this shooter can send seeds at 45-degree angles, letting them ricochet off a couple walls before having their effect.

Source - Moonlit Grotto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ2CtlMeskY)

Oh, and due to nobody posting anything at all since my last post, the first track will remain open a little longer.

[JH Sounds]

nobody posting anything at all since my last post

Welcome to my world. :razz:

[evktalo]

Cool project. Got a nice chiplead sound going on. I like Ripples of Time the most so far, I'll say more about that a bit later.

Last-minute Essence of Lime comments:

Enjoyable track overall, my second favourite from these four.

Keyboard strings sound a little - just a little - exposed right in the beginning (the very first chord). They sound fine later on. The brass sounds very nice in the intro, which amends the situation. I was thinking you could fade the first chord in from maybe 66% to 100%.. that might divert the attention to the brass. Or it might not work at all. In any case, it's not a big tweak!

There's a lot going on, so a little extra breathing space before the final part (begins at 02:52) would in my opinion do the whole good. I was thinking maybe a bar's worth of drums only, that sort of thing.

Other than those two quite minor things, the track is sold and enjoyable. Good work so far!

--Eino

[JH Sounds]

For a moment I thought I'd highlighted your sig, Hylian. :-P

[Kreios]

nice. As for me I used to play seasons after hours so I like that one better. Due to certain things though I've never had them both at the same time and am now playing ages. Great job and keep it up!

[Hylian Lemon]

For a moment I thought I'd highlighted your sig, Hylian. :-P
Yes, I changed it to match the new album art. I'm going to have to print it eventually, and my printer completely butchers dark stuff, so I decided to make a light alternate. XD

Anyway, thanks for the comments/critique, Vctrx/evktalo. I started to work on Essence of Lime with the few minutes of freedom I had last night, and the string-fading-in seems to work well. I'm in the process of adding a breath before the last section, so I'll get around to posting it whenever I'm done (soon).

[Hylian Lemon]

All right, [link removed] has been updated.

The first chord of strings now fades in more, and I've added a less busy section before the final part.

[Rozovian]

Just four tracks. Oh good, then I can get them all done at once. :)

Haven't played the game, and am too lazy to listen to source.

Ricochet. Sounds like Zelda... uh, at least the melodies. One of your early hihat samples is a bit too loud. You've got strangely few high frequencies. Around 2:30 it starts having something of a latino sound, then goes into something more like jazz. All without breaking the overall style. Good work. Ending was executed well.

Ripples of Time. Starts off with the promise of being epic. Doesn't quite progress the way I would have wanted, but it turns into something nice and groovy. There's a weird blurp-ish sound in there that I'd get rid of if I were you. A style like this would be awesome for an sd3 track that we need. I'll get you the details in a pm. After 2 mins it starts sounding familiar. Probbaly from a remix, tho could be from a previous wip, could have been used in another Zelda game. Anyway, ending felt sudden, so you either gotta let it unwind for longer or let it crash into a bigger finale.

Bipolar Bird. PIano intro feels very unpolished. Too much reverb, too long release, idunno. Piano could lose some high mids. Progression certainly fits what you said about the source, mostly. Transition into electronic around 1:33 didn't quite work, imo. At 2:07 it takes another cool turn, somewhat reminiscent of a part of the castle theme from SMW. Then it turns into lofi chiptune sounds, and that didn't feel appropriate. Work on the transitions and blend them together more. I'd rather not have the chippy ending, but it's your track. There was a lot of really cool bits and pieces in this, but it becomes medleyitic... too much so even for this track.

Essence of Lime. Strings feel pad-ish. If you'd make that more obvious, you could get away with it more easily. Primitive waveform leads work in this track, tho I'd give them a few overtones, they sound too primitive. The reverse rhythm thing you've got about half way through works well, but I was expecting a stronger bass drum to come in somewhere around there. You've got a few pretty cool sections in here, and the transitions were interesting. Ending was funny. :)

Overall, this sounds promising. Good stuff, man.

[Chickenwarlord]

J

Bipolar Bird. PIano intro feels very unpolished. Too much reverb, too long release, idunno. Piano could lose some high mids. Progression certainly fits what you said about the source, mostly. Transition into electronic around 1:33 didn't quite work, imo. At 2:07 it takes another cool turn, somewhat reminiscent of a part of the castle theme from SMW. Then it turns into lofi chiptune sounds, and that didn't feel appropriate. Work on the transitions and blend them together more. I'd rather not have the chippy ending, but it's your track. There was a lot of really cool bits and pieces in this, but it becomes medleyitic... too much so even for this track.
Almost everything you complain about was on my end. I'll have to go back and work on that then.

[Hylian Lemon]

I will never understand how Rozovian manages to give heaps of good critique all over the board without breaking a sweat. XD

These comments will definitely be taken into account when I find the time to work. This is one of the many reasons I should get my own computer that can handle FL Studio.

Almost everything you complain about was on my end. I'll have to go back and work on that then.
You're taking too much blame for yourself. I did the quick transitions and applied all that reverb on the intro.

[Rozovian]

I will never understand how Rozovian manages to give heaps of good critique all over the board without breaking a sweat. XD

Thanks man. It's nice to know I'm appreciated. Some credit for this feedback goes to just64, he's the one that told me to critique the projects here. Yours was shorter, so I finished it before his. :D Anyway, I'm surprised the J's aren't on wip board, considering how important they repeatedly say it is.

Chick, please take the time to answer the questions in this post (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17963#post442736).

[evktalo]

Long-due Ripples of Time feedback. For some strange reason YouTube isn't working for me right now, so no comment on source use/variation etc.

I like this a lot, especially the part with the rhythm/time signature change towards the end. Wonderful! It even has a modulation that really works. :) (I often hate those.) Like Roz, though, I feel that given how much, hmm, "epicness" this track seems to promise, it doesn't quite blow it through the roof. It either needs something that would really tear the sky above it into little shreds, or you could dial it into the other direction, make it an understated piece with less big sounds, less reverb and strings that sound like a smaller section. I'm thinking this arrangement could be really effective and emotive with more intimate instrumentation.

I don't like the bass during the first half, those continuous notes with the simple instrument don't server the piece as well as a bassline can. Later on it's not continuous notes anymore, which is much more effective and nice. I'm thinking the bass could be used to evoke water-like movement, like waves or the tide or even drops, a flow.. Could be really fitting, and I think you have a knack for telling a story with the music, so right now you're underutilizing the bass. :)

--Eino

[Gust Man]

Just wondering if this project is still going strong?

[Hylian Lemon]

I wouldn't say it's going strong, but it's still...alive. It's just in hibernation at the moment. I have no intentions of abandoning it. It's been hard to come across good remixing time lately.

Once I finish tweaking the current tracks (maybe before they're all done) I can work some more on the next tracks. Chickenwarlord and I have a skeleton of a House/Maku Road remix that needs to be fleshed out, and I'm about halfway through an Under the Sea/Zora Village remix. Those will most likely be the next releases, although I can't guarantee anything.

[Zombie]

Just came across this and it made my night. Oracle of Ages was among my favorite gameboy games as well. I can't wait until this is finished.

Keep it up mr. hylian lemon. :)

[SubNormal J3]

This is really cool what you're putting together. I played both of the Oracle games myself and they are by far my favorite gameboy games. That said..
This is what I've got to say about the ReMixes. I'm not entirely sure what the order is, btw.

Essence of Lime
Nice intro, from the opening demo I assume
Later on I lose track of the source. Is it just variations of the intro?
:30 You have a nice hybrid soundscape going on here. I like it
There's a nice melody at 1:00 aswell as some good variation in percussion
2:53 I also like what's going on here
-Overall this tune is quite enjoyable, but it drags at parts

Bipolar Bird
I like the intro and use of samples from the game. How did you get those, btw?
I have to admit that the strings found a little too fake, though.
I like the flute part here and those runs at :50
The percussion at 1:18 is nice. Same with the panning that is going on.
By now the source isn't very clear.
2:44 nice samples once again
-I have pretty much the same verdict here as the last track.

Ricochet
Nice buildup at the beginning. I also like the breakdown at :46
There is some nice synthwork at 1:45
-I don't have much more to say other than I like it even though it is repetitive at times.
Your variation throughout helped a lot with that.

Ripples of Time
This one is probably my favorite track so far.
Those are some sweet water drops. Same goes with the percussion.
1:38 I really like this mellow part
2:30 Those are some nice flange effects.
-This track is great.

All I have to say is that I'm very surprised to have not seen any tracks of yours on the site. You've got great talent especially in production. Everything sounds very nice and balanced. I look forward to hearing the completed project. Bring it out of hibernation :)

-J3

[friendlyHunter]

I'm not much of a remixer (my chance of getting on this site any time soon is.... rather small), but I loved Oracle of Ages and I just found out about this project (from your sig!)
I haven't found the time to make any music in a while now, but I may consider contributing one of these months, if you'd like.
Also, bump!

[Hylian Lemon]

Well, the project is open to contributions from anyone. Whenever you have a song choice in mind, send me a private message (and if I don't respond within a week, I probably didn't get it, so send it again). I'm glad multiple people are interested, because Ages definitely deserves some more love!

In other news, I finally got around to working with Ripples of Time.

[link removed]
-Bass is more broken up at the beginning
-Ending is [hopefully] more epic?

I might be able to crank out another track (or another update) over Christmas break. We'll see.

[SLyGeN]

Is BiPolar Bird still up for critique? I feel that the strings that come in around 0:28 should flow into the next note, rather than being staccato. The strings have a breif fade-in, then a breif fade-out, and then the next note does the same. It feels hard on my ears, and it kinda reminds me of compression issues (although I can tell it's not).

I love the section with the sitar.

I'm not personally fond of in-game samples. However, I do like the idea of using the enemy-death effect. It feels like percussion. The other ones feel out of place to me. The low-health warning was alright too. Perhaps you could edit it so that you can use it like accompaniment.. maybe a short riff could play behind the rest of the instruments.. crawl up the scale for whichever key you're in or something.


Upon hearing this, I can tell that this is going to be a great project. When it comes out, I will definitely ask you for lossless copies of my favorites.

I'm still looking forward to Ambi's Tower. If you don't feel like I'm stepping on your toes by critiquing without actually being a remixer, I'd be more than happy to provide my opinion on others.

[Hylian Lemon]

Yeah, at this point everything's open to critique. Don't feel like you need to be some kind of "official" remixer to comment; I'm happy to hear anyone's thoughts. So go ahead and post any other critique you have.

And thanks for the compliments. I can't guarantee Ambi's Tower will show up any time soon, but if I need something new to work on, I'll look into that (are you talking about Ambi's Palace or the Black Tower?).

[SLyGeN]

Pretty sure I'm talking about The Black Tower. It's the one that's under construction in the past.

I haven't played it in so long, I thought that was the only building related to Ambi. Don't worry about rushing to finish it; I don't mind waiting for you to work at your leisure.


This one :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq5mTW-46k


I'm glad we both love the Skull Dungeon theme. I'm sure that will turn out great.

[WindGuru]

AWESOME TO SEE THS STILL UP!

The new version of Ripples of Time has a sorta...forced ending though. The drum beats don't seem right somehow. Sorry XD.

Any chance of an epic Ralph/Nayru theme soon?

[Hylian Lemon]

All right, I can try it without the new drums.

As for Nayru and Ralph, I'll obviously be doing those at some point, but I'm afraid it won't be soon...sorry.

But I do have some good news...

There's a new track! Whooooo

[link removed] (Sea Bottom, Zora Village)

Basically I went for a sort of mysterious, sparkly, peaceful mood. The Zora Village sections are pretty similar to the source, but the Sea Bottom had to go through some bigger changes. You might recognize the first minute or so; I had posted an earlier WIP a long time ago.

Sources:
Sea Bottom/Beneath the Waves/whatever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRyAfaGHDE)
Zora Village (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcfq2vPRqac)

[Hylian Lemon]

Ok then...I have an updated Ripples of Time. Better or worse?

[links removed] (differences start around 2:30)

[prophetik]

if you need a sax player or vocalist, i'm game (if i like the track) once my preamp gets fixed.

[Hylian Lemon]

Thanks, I appreciate the offer. A sax would actually work pretty well in something I just started; I'll let you know when that's done so you can decide if you want to play for it. How do you typically do your sax collabs?

[prophetik]

you do everything, i record and send you the rest.

[Gust Man]

Excellent! Man listening to these remixes bring back so many memories.

[WindGuru]

Ok then...I have an updated Ripples of Time. Better or worse?

New version (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/RipplesofTime.mp3)
Old version for comparison (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/OldRipplesofTime.mp3) (differences start around 2:30)

Better! :P

[Hylian Lemon]

(moved the source list from here to the first post)

[Hylian Lemon]

So, a small update: Essence of Lime and Ricochet have been tweaked. Basically I messed with the square leads in each, and I also made the Essence of Lime background strings more synthy like Rozovian suggested. And then I messed with some levels and frequencies to try to make Ricochet sound nicer. Especially the little latin-sounding fragment that was way cluttered. Not big changes, but comments are still welcome.

[links removed]

Also, if you have any Ripples of Time critique, post it within the next week or so. Otherwise I'll be closing it.

[evktalo]

Bass on Ripples of Time is very nice now. Adds a whole new dimension to the track. It adds restleness, which is great for this. The added sound effects are great. I like the ending as well. Very well done in all, chilling, evocative. I love this track.

--Eino

[SLyGeN]

I'm listening to Shimmering Scales. from 0:00 to 1:20 absolutely radiates passion to me. I love the arrangement. The transition to the Zora Villiage theme feels a little abrupt to me. Then again, the two sources are actually very different in sound. When you go back to the underwater theme at 2:50, I'd really love to hear all of the instruments come back in full force. The strings, the piano, the synth whistle, everything. 0:00 to 1:20 is very strong and passionate, and at 2:50 it seems to pale in comparison.

At the very end, I see the strings move out of the minor mode. Personally I dislike it, but I'm generally part of the minority as far as that's concerned.


Good track. I like it quite a bit. I can't wait to see how this project turns out in the very end.

[Hylian Lemon]

Thanks for the critique! I've made some changes:

[links removed]

I tried to make the first Zora Village transition a little better, and I added more instruments to the section you mentioned near the end. I also tried switching the ending back to minor, but I didn't like it quite as much, so I left it the way it was. I think it's a personal preference thing (though I might change my mind if a bunch of other people mentioned it as well).

It's been a while since I released a new track, but there are several things in the works. Among the closest to completion:
-A Jabu-Jabu's Belly collaboration between the prophet of mephisto and me
-A House/Maku Road collaboration between Chickenwarlord and me (I'm slacking off on this...)
-A Black Tower Base/Black Tower/Black Tower Turret track by me (this is getting most of my attention at the moment; it's about half done)

Just to let you all know that I'm not just sitting around doing nothing. :D

[SLyGeN]

I've made some changes

I also tried switching the ending back to minor, but I didn't like it quite as much, so I left it the way it was.

Listening now. The transition felt smooth as silk to me. Nice.

At the end, I personally would still like to hear more of that first underwater theme (I mean in terms of duration). The instruments, however, are great now. But I'd love it if you milked all of the minor-key beauty out of the underwater theme. Perhaps try repetitions coming to crescendo, or something, make it dramatic to the point of chills.

Or not- it really is a good, chill track as it stands. I feel like I'm trying to write your track for you, which I shouldn't do.

[Hylian Lemon]

That's ok; they're valid suggestions. I don't think I want to make it any longer, but I did come up with a different ending while I was tinkering with it today. I thought you might like it better. Changes start at 3:10.

[links removed]

Any thoughts?

[TheKrow]

That's ok; they're valid suggestions. I don't think I want to make it any longer, but I did come up with a different ending while I was tinkering with it today. I thought you might like it better. Changes start at 3:10.

New version (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/ShimmeringScales.mp3)
Old version (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/OldShimmeringScales.mp3)

Any thoughts?

I have to say I like the way you ended the New Version better, however it seems to me like the fade out at the end doesn't fit for some reason. It could just be me, but that's what I'm getting. Possibly fading out the other other instruments, while the ending synth is at a higher volume, could work better? You decide.

I also want to say the song itself is very nice. It's soothing, and flows quite well all around. Although, it seems like it's missing like a signature uniqueness that will grab your attention. You know, how like you remember songs by certain catchy rifts, lyrics, bass lines, or something of that nature? I try to see it as something that will catch my attention and actually cause me to listen to it if I'm doing some else. Sorry if I'm being a bit too "critquey" >_<.

[Hylian Lemon]

I have to say I like the way you ended the New Version better, however it seems to me like the fade out at the end doesn't fit for some reason. It could just be me, but that's what I'm getting. Possibly fading out the other other instruments, while the ending synth is at a higher volume, could work better? You decide.

I also want to say the song itself is very nice. It's soothing, and flows quite well all around. Although, it seems like it's missing like a signature uniqueness that will grab your attention. You know, how like you remember songs by certain catchy rifts, lyrics, bass lines, or something of that nature? I try to see it as something that will catch my attention and actually cause me to listen to it if I'm doing some else. Sorry if I'm being a bit too "critquey" >_<.
Hey, that's the whole point of this board. XD I'll see what I can do the next time I feel like working on it. Thanks for the input.

In other news, we now have over 10,000 views! Yay!

I had intended to do an over nine thousand joke earlier but I guess I missed it.

[prophetik]

IT TAKES MORE THAN 9 TB TO GET INTO MORDOR (http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/it-takes-more-than-9tb-to-get-into-mordor)

[Hylian Lemon]

All right. As a little break from all the Shimmering Scales updates for a bit, I offer a new track!

[link removed] (Black Tower Base, Black Tower, Black Tower Turret)

It's built around the Black Tower theme, but the base makes an appearance at the beginning and the turret shows up in the middle. Critique, please!

Sources:

Black Tower Base (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gty8tg72gC4)

Black Tower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wq5mTW-46k)

Black Tower Turret (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1eVIzvCQs)

[TheKrow]

Oooh I really what you've done with this one. Some really good stuff, especially the Egyptian sounding strings (I think it's a sitar?). I also recognize some of the sounds and the drum soundfont, so extra points for making it sound good. I think it's quite good like it is, but you know, except for the few small touches here and there. You can only keeping editing so much though before your brain melts x_x.

Anyway, one thing that I think might make it sound really good is replacing a rhythm line or making a whole new one, with an electric distorted guitar. Perhaps closer to the ending half of the song. I just think some distorted chords would sound cool, but perhaps it's just me. If you try it, good luck finding a nice-sounding guitar.

[Hylian Lemon]

Yeah, I have to agree with you there. At several points in the song, I had thought an electric guitar would be cool, but it's so hard to pull off. I might go back and try it out if I can find a good sample. Thanks for the comments. And yes, it is a sitar.

[TheKrow]

I've some other things about the mix... For one I think some of the instrument volumes could be adjusted, possibly so that the brief harmonies can be heard over main the melody. I also think you upped the overall volume, no? Listening to it more though, the drums do kind of seem to stand out in a negative way, due to that snare drum. It could just be from the soundfont quality, but perhaps changing up the snare or making the drums less harsh can help fix it up.

[SLyGeN]

Shimmering Scales ends beautifully. Well done; this track is great in my opinion.

I'm listening to Endless Eclipse now. I love the eastern sound in the beginning. At 2:07, part of me really wants to hear that portion swell. But at the same time, I can tell there is a really chill aura to this whole project. With that in mind, this track is great. I might suggest incorporating more of the Black Tower's source material into this one (the end of it, with those crazy fast descending arpeggios). I'm ecstatic to see that it ends using Black Tower's source material. The ending is absolutely perfect. :D

I'm very happy that one of my favorite tracks from the game was interpreted so well.

This one is staying on my desktop until the project is completed.

[Hylian Lemon]

Ok. Some updates have been made to Endless Eclipse:

-Added some electric guitar here and there. If it sucks, let me know of any techniques to get it to sound better, or I can easily just take it back out.
-Made the snare drum a bit less harsh.
-Added the ending of the Black Tower source (at 2:55).
-I also slightly adjusted the volume and panning in a few sections.

[links removed]

Yay or not yay?

[TheKrow]

I'd say that the new version is quite a bit better, however, it might be just me, but I only hear the guitar at one part nearing the end of the song. You might need to make it more noticeable, or just add more parts, but other than that the sound it is good for it's purpose. I don't think you're trying to get an amazing lead here, so it sounds good.

As for the drums, it might just be the soundfont for making the snare sound off. I would actually recommend trying a better drum set from here, possibly:

http://soundfonts.darkesword.com/

Experiment with what sounds best.

Other than that I really enjoyed this this mix. I'm probably going to guess it will be perfect after the next update (to me anyway).
Don't think you have to follow my advice either, but I'm just following my ear (which terrible at picking up key by the way x_x)

Oh yeah, I also might think about perhaps helping with remixing. Not sure what song I'm itching to do, but we'll see, as I have other stuff I'm working on. I use FL and would feel much better about a collab, but ironically enough, I can't use the program "Collab" >_<

[SLyGeN]

The guitars are just fine, I like the addition.

At 0:35 and 0:37 I'm hearing what sounds like record scratching (but it reminds me of a dog barking. Personally, I don't care for it.) Looking back, I can tell that it was in the original, but never bothered me. Listening yet again, I think it's more pronounced in the second one you posted. So, meh. Do with it whatever you like.

I think it's cool that you made a move to add the latter portion of Black Tower's main theme, but I don't think it quite fits where you put it. It seems to clash to me (and I can tell you are a great musician, you must have felt the same way). I'm guessing that if it were to be included, you'd have to add an extra motive or two somewhere.

Guitars are good though. Keep 'em!

edit: oh, one last thing. The snares never bothered me, although I do agree with your decision to tone them down.

[Hylian Lemon]

I only hear the guitar at one part nearing the end of the song. You might need to make it more noticeable, or just add more parts
It first shows up at 2:27. I might try to adjust some levels there.

As for the drums, it might just be the soundfont for making the snare sound off. I would actually recommend trying a better drum set from here, possibly:

http://soundfonts.darkesword.com/
I'm actually using a layering of a couple different snares, one of which comes from the Ken Ardency set mentioned there. Is there any specific problem you could name (like, they sound too snappy or crunchy or muffled or something), so I have an idea of how to approach it?

Oh yeah, I also might think about perhaps helping with remixing. Not sure what song I'm itching to do, but we'll see, as I have other stuff I'm working on. I use FL and would feel much better about a collab, but ironically enough, I can't use the program "Collab" >_<
PM'd you about this.

At 0:35 and 0:37 I'm hearing what sounds like record scratching (but it reminds me of a dog barking. Personally, I don't care for it.) Looking back, I can tell that it was in the original, but never bothered me. Listening yet again, I think it's more pronounced in the second one you posted. So, meh. Do with it whatever you like.
MAH now it bothers me too. I'll fix that in the next version.

I think it's cool that you made a move to add the latter portion of Black Tower's main theme, but I don't think it quite fits where you put it. It seems to clash to me (and I can tell you are a great musician, you must have felt the same way). I'm guessing that if it were to be included, you'd have to add an extra motive or two somewhere.
So I should reference it earlier in the remix? I can try that.

[evktalo]

No crits right now, but I'm groovin' to this [EE].

--Eino

[TheKrow]

Okay so, I kind of wanted to surprise the thread with a mix I created myself. I was just doing this for the heck of it, other than helping with the Pirate Theme, so I decided to try my hand at a Lynna City mix. This is my very first attempt an an orchestral piece so hopefully I did it relatively well. I know it's not quite completed, I still need to add a couple effects and mess the EQ a bit. I also know the intro and ending are a bit iffy, but they have the general idea of what I'm going for.

Let me know what you think though, I need to know what other people hear. Instrument volumes are VERY liable for change.

http://www.tindeck.com/listen/gbfz

[Hylian Lemon]

I like the feel you're going for; sort of like some kind of triumphant procession through the village. The section that best conveys this mood is 0:56-1:14; there you've stuck mostly with the original chords but have changed the tone of the original.

Other times, the chords don't fit well. Examples of this are the section from 0:38-0:55 and 2:30-3:06. [dumb criticism removed] And make sure your background strings are in agreement with the rest of your instruments. What I do is I hum the separate notes of a chord in my head before I start putting them down, and then I make sure they all match (I can't read music and I've never taken any classes on it, so I just work by ear). I don't know if that'll help, but it might.

Production-wise, a lot of your instruments are clipping throughout the whole thing. You might try bringing the volumes down a little and applying some Fruity Soft Clipper; that can help.

Also, you should try switching the lead instrument up once in a while. Otherwise it gets too repetitive.

I think the orchestra sound is a good direction for Lynna City. You nailed the mood in the 0:56-1:14 section I mentioned earlier, and the rest of the remix would benefit if you shaped it to sound a little more like this, but with varying melodies and lead instruments. And don't forget about the production stuff. Anyway, I think you're on the right track. Thanks for contributing!

Edit: Oh, and give it a title!

[TheKrow]

Thanks for the feedback, I just tried to some suggestions before I started taking it a apart a bit more. I wasn't truly going to keep it that repetitive, but the chord info is much appreciated.I've already fixed some stuff up anyway on the beginning and end, so I just have to focus on mostly melodies, mid-song.

As for the clipping I AM using the fruity soft clipper and compressor on the master volume, however it sounds fine to me. I'm not getting any clipping on my end, so it's probably just my crappy headphones (I really need new ones anyway). I'll try to see if I can get it to sound a bit better than it does, though. Thanks :<

[TheKrow]

Alright it's finally done rendering, this darn song of mine. Here's version two of the Lynna; I decided to name it "Ballad of Ages" (and bump the thread :tomatoface:).

http://tindeck.com/image/xkmn/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/xkmn)

[Hylian Lemon]

Clipping is gone, hooray!

But the problem chords still sound the same. And you've changed the best part! Something sounds off about the new 0:53-1:11 section; at first I thought it was because of incongruent notes, but it could just be a result of having no background string chords to tie everything together. I don't know. Try adding some in there; it should help fill in the background and make it sound a little nicer. Maybe. Several points in the track would benefit from more background.

As for the ending, this style calls for some more climactic closure. It should probably go out with more of a bang.

The main thing you need to focus on is the notes that don't fit together. You might try muting all but two instruments at a time to hear the problems more clearly. It might help, if you're having trouble singling them out. Fix those and you'd have a pretty good arrangement.

[TheKrow]

Well I can definitely add more background instruments to this, it would probably be better off anyway; plus I'm not sure what you thought was the "best part"... the melody was just repeated during that section. As for notes not fitting, I can guarantee you that they are all right. Lynna just has some weird accidentals in it's scale, you check you the midi if you want.

And I think I can do a big finish... I hope :<

[Hylian Lemon]

All right, Chickenwarlord and I finally finished our latest collab:

[link removed]
Sources: House, Maku Road, harp songs

The track is separated into three parts, representing different time periods. In the beginning, Link walks through the ruins of a city. He travels back in time into a rural village and helps out a citizen who turns out to be important to the village's future history. Upon traveling back to the future, Link arrives in a peaceful city. Yay!

The title has multiple meanings: Link's physical leap through time and the village's ties between past and present. It also references a line from the Maku Tree, when she claims that Link's heart and hers are "bound across time."

Let us know specifically what you think about the use of the portal sounds in between time periods. And, of course, anything about the track in general.

[TheKrow]

Very, very nice. I'd say put it up for completion once some clipping is gone. That's the only real negative thing I was hearing not getting nit-picky, so make sure you're adding soft clippers to EVERY instrument in the channel mixer.

[TheKrow]

Alright, sorry for the double post, but I touched up Ballad of Ages and wanted to get it posted with a thread bump. I didn't change a whole lot, but I made sure all the notes were in key and fixed up some chords / counter-melodies. I added a vibraphone on the left so make you listen for that. I was thinking about doing a "big-bang" ending, although I decided I would take a more restrained approach. I really don't see Lynna as something incredibly amazing; something more like a quiet ending suits it better, I think. So, I decided to leave the ending. I am kind of hoping this will be my last edit because I really don't want make a few minor edits only for it to take four hours to render again.

And there you have it. Let me know if there's some brilliant suggestion or something that would greatly improve this piece. One thing I've been wondering is if possibly the Lynna (past) version should perhaps flow with the present one, or if they are going to be separated tracks in the list along with the others. I'm not sure what the take on this is, so let me know.

http://tindeck.com/image/weiq/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/weiq)

[Zorlaxseven]

I'm doing the Lynna Village theme. To tell you the truth, it has nothing to do with this song at all. Sorry. I didn't even think of the flow of the two.

But getting to your song. I don't have a "brilliant suggestion" about your piece; however, I might have enough minor suggestions to make it worth re-rendering.

0:00 - 0:18 The vibraphone is a bit loud to me. It draws my ear from the melody and makes me want to listen just to that. Also around 0:10, I think you have some either wrong notes, or some quick subdominant chords that really don't work when played in a scale fashion.

0:37-0:39 Something is off. I'm thinking the vibes or violin are playing a wrong note?

around 2:21 I think the vibes are not playing a "wrong note" but a passing tone that is dissonant with the chord. It struck my ear.

same thing at 2:38 with the violin

and 2:48 with the violin. It's sustaining notes that the melody moves on. You can hear the dissonance when the flute moves on the upbeats.


However, I enjoy several aspects of the song.

0:53-1:11 was pretty fun. Loved your take on the melody with the chords.

2:05 - 2:10 I enjoyed your pseudo-end with the triangle and then coming back with the drums

And I like your ending. It suits the song for me. Just my little nit pick on it. I think the last note should be louder. Everything else (the tambourine) can fade out. I just want to hear that last note clearly.


Good song. You really don't have to fix my thoughts. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

[Hylian Lemon]

Connecting the two tracks is an interesting idea, but like Zorlaxseven said, it's a little too late to just link the two together. Anyway, I'd be wary of having two different tracks that flow into each other, because then you end up with two songs that aren't quite complete without each other (if I'm understanding you right). If anyone wants to do that sort of thing on this project, I won't stop them, but I'd prefer each track to stand on its own.

That said, I don't have much to add besides what Zorlaxseven already mentioned (though I'm not exactly sure what he means about 2:48 ). The background of the track sounds more fleshed-out now, so that's good. Just be careful about hitting bad notes (like Zorlaxseven pointed out in the intro).

If you don't want to bother making a few adjustments and then exporting for hours, I'd suggest letting the track sit for a while. That's what I tend to do; sometimes someone will bring up more ideas or you'll start to notice problems on your own during that time. When you're ready, you can go back with a larger collection of problems to solve, and then you feel like you've done more.

[TheKrow]

Alright well I'll keep these things in mind. I kinda want to open a WIP for something else I've been working on, on the side, so maybe finishing that up will bring some motivation to my head. If you care at all it's a WIP of "Gaia Rock" from Golden Sun: The Lost Age :<

Edit: I think that some unfavorables with note issues is simply mentality. I have a bad ear for key, I will admit, but I think if you have listened to the song as much as I have, it will sound a bit better. Try to focus on all the instruments at once, not one or a few at a time. I know it can be hard, although it's easier when you listen to it while doing something else. That's all :/

[Zorlaxseven]

I know what you're saying about the more you listen to a song the more you... Are open to everything it has. It happens to me a lot. What I do to prevent that is to modulate it up or down a half step. It makes it "fresh" to my ear. I personally don't like to have too much of the "listen to it a few times for it to make sense" mentality because most people judge a song on their first listen. Still, you're your own person. Your song; your call.

(And that thing at 2:48 is very subtle. Don't even worry about it if even Hylian Lemon can't hear it. It must be that minor.)

EDIT: Forgot to mention. It's not that the notes are "wrong" sometimes. It's that you're "modulating" or changing one note from your key to get to another chord. The notes aren't wrong per se. It's just... Sudden. There are certain ways to approach subdominant chords. Like, if in one measure you have a chord, and the last note of that measure is an F-nat., then (like in the third bar of the song) the chord changes into something with an F#, it's going to sound bad. You need a way to get around that sequence of F-nat.to F#

(Note: I'm not saying that's what's happening in your song. I can't be certain unless I saw a score or something. Just saying there are ways to flow better between chords that are "out of key".)

[Hylian Lemon]

Lately I've been practically up to my neck in WIPs and collabs (and not only for this project). That means either we'll be having several updates in the near future or I will go insane and poke out my eyes.

But for now, I have a new track (solo this time). The style is along the lines of Endless Eclipse, but a bit more brassy. It's...

[link removed]
Sources: Maze on the Sea of No Return (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zs-MTyw9cg), Ancient Tomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnFAt0yuq2o)

I definitely didn't want to have to deal with Ancient Tomb by itself, so I tried to figure out how to combine it with another track. Luckily, the track for the area above ground seemed like it could work.

Anyway, criticize away!

[TheKrow]

I think this is a pretty darn good piece you have hear. I definitely enjoy the "spy-like" theme you have going on, it's pretty classy. May I suggest that you try an electric drumset though? I don't have a good sample / vst myself, but perhaps someone else from OCR could help with that. I believe it needs a little bit a EQ tuning too along with some effects just to give it a bit more "spice". Subtle background percussion is also never a bad thing :)

[Zorlaxseven]

This song is a little above my level. I do think I can manage a few things to point out. Your brass in the very beginning sound a little fake and cheesy. Maybe it's a lame ear I have (i've been told my ear is really bad in this effect). I love your very... Movie-score-esque section. You have a very unique take on your music.

On a side note: I really can't... hear the sources in your song. I must be crazy or something.

[Hylian Lemon]

This song is a little above my level. I do think I can manage a few things to point out. Your brass in the very beginning sound a little fake and cheesy. Maybe it's a lame ear I have (i've been told my ear is really bad in this effect). I love your very... Movie-score-esque section. You have a very unique take on your music.

On a side note: I really can't... hear the sources in your song. I must be crazy or something.
I've been told that before several times, sometimes on songs I thought were completely obvious. I'm not really surprised here; both songs have been altered more than usual (I squished them both into 4/4 and changed the chordage a lot to make them go together better). This might help a little:

0:00-0:07 - Maze
0:20-0:48 - Ancient Tomb
0:55-1:08 - Maze
1:35-1:49 - Maze
1:49-2:17 - Ancient Tomb
2:17-2:31 - Ancient Tomb and Maze TOGETHER (oooooh)
2:45-3:12 - Ancient Tomb and Maze back and forth (low vs. high, respectively)
3:12-3:33 - Ancient Tomb and Maze together again
3:33-3:40 - Ancient Tomb

As for the brass at the beginning, I see what you mean, so it's not your "lame ear." I can try to fix that up.

And I'll work on electronifying the drums a bit, TheKrow.

Also, thanks for the unwarranted compliments, both of you. :<

[Hylian Lemon]

Time for a new track. TheKrow and I finished the first draft of our collab:

[link removed]
Source: Pirate's Gigue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eWJY7GUiOQ)
Remixers: Hylian Lemon, TheKrow

As the title suggests, it is a jazzy remix of the pirate theme. Thoughts?

P.S. To those of you who listen to this stuff and then run off somewhere, we ask that you take the time to comment on any of the tracks, no matter what you have to say about them. If you don't have any criticism, you'll make our day. If you don't have any praise, you'll make us better. While we'd like something in between, we'd prefer the extremes to nothing at all.

[Zarmakuizz]

I have quickly heard all the musics because I just wanted to hear what this album looks like. All of the album looks like good.
I heard the last musics on the first post. I like the Endless Eclipse, I enjoy it.

I should hear the others musics one more time, I think tomorrow because I'm tired now.

[TheKrow]

Hopefully when some more critquing gets put into "Jazz is Undead" then I will go ahead and start with some edits because there are some things I still want to add / fix about it. Then will begin the long process of rendering yet again :sleepzzz:

Please take the time to say stuff, people :/

[progressive]

Sounds like a Zack and Wiki track, heh. I'm not the biggest fan of jazz remixes, so take what I say lightly. The bothersome thing about this mix is that it's filled with synths that seem to do their jobs just fine, but then you've got very synthy-sounding "instruments" (like the sax) that clash with your more realistic percussion and piano. It's hard to tell which direction you're wanting the mix to go.

Other than that, it's pretty fun and lighthearted. The ocean sound effects are really nice, but they kind of beat you over the head when they come in rather than being part of the ambiance.

Good luck!

[Hylian Lemon]

Yay, outsiders! You get imaginary stickers for posting.

So, prog, what you're saying is that the synths sound fine, but some instruments that should be realistic (like the sax) sound too fake in comparison to the other realistic instruments? I don't disagree with that. We can look for some better sax samples or make it sound more synthy or something. And we'll bring the ocean volume down a little when music is playing on top of it (I assume that's what you mean).

One of these days I'm going to have to go back to all these tracks I haven't updated yet, haha. Once I'm not so busy with collabs and the SD3 project, I guess.

[Zarmakuizz]

With my headache I had nothing to do this morning, so I heard the entire album.

Most of the musics of this album are quiet. Looks like my headache will diseappear :-D

So, I have heard all of the musics. I have enjoyed each of them. My favourite are Essence of Lime, Dead Or Alive and Endless Eclipse.
Congrats!
http://paulkucera.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/holy-shit-awesome-2.jpg

[TheKrow]

Okay here is another version of "Jazz is Undead". I went with a more electronic theme, taking what progressive said into account, so I just made everything synthy. I also just changed a couple other small bits and took the time to make the EQ relatively decent, plus I toned down the waves and wood creaks.

Let us know which version you think is better.

Version 2: http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/JazzisUndeadV2.mp3

Version 1: http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/JazzisUndead.mp3

[M W]

Lemony, I think what you're doing is great. The Legend of Zelda Oracle games are some of the most quintessential 2D Zelda games there are.

I wish there was a way I could contribute to this project.

[Hylian Lemon]

Lemony, I think what you're doing is great. The Legend of Zelda Oracle games are some of the most quintessential 2D Zelda games there are.

I wish there was a way I could contribute to this project.
But there is! The only requirement for involvement is that you post your track here and accept critiques. I checked out your site, and I enjoyed your Silver Mountain remix; it'd be cool to have that kind of sound on this project. You're a bit overly modest, though I can relate to that. XD

If you decide you want to be on the project, just let me know what track you're thinking of doing, through private message or otherwise. The track list is at the bottom of the first post. Not that I'm trying to force you into it or anything. :<

[progressive]

Okay here is another version of "Jazz is Undead". I went with a more electronic theme, taking what progressive said into account, so I just made everything synthy. I also just changed a couple other small bits and took the time to make the EQ relatively decent, plus I toned down the waves and wood creaks.

Let us know which version you think is better.

Version 2: http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/JazzisUndeadV2.mp3

Version 1: http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/JazzisUndead.mp3
Definitely hearing an improvement, imo. I think the organ at 2:48 (which I didn't quite catch the first time) sounds great with the synths. The syncopation at 3:22 is really great - could use more of this.

And the ocean parts blend perfectly now. Overall, very groovy.

[Zorlaxseven]

This song has good stuff. All I personally can say is, "Let's hope we can get some real saxes to play this." (Somebody once said that it is a crime to use fake saxophones for any jazz song. I agree.)

But hey, it probably isn't possible. So (I'll probably listen again and go in depth some) for now, good stuff.

[TheKrow]

Alright, here's the final version of Jazz is Undead. I finished all the fine tuning for lots of things, but it didn't change so much "meat"-wise, just in sound quality. Well I guess that makes at least two tracks officially completed :|.

http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/JazzisUndead.mp3

[Zorlaxseven]

We definitely need more completed tracks here true. I didn't listen to V2, to tell you the truth. But listening from V1 to the last version... It's a very good change. I can't put my finger on all of it. (I don't have the two to compare on my computer, and I am lazy to download them all and compare them.)

In short: Good work on your update TheKrow

[Hylian Lemon]

Yeah, we probably do...I'm just naturally hesitant to call things done. TheKrow's off getting critiques on #ocrwip and I'm just sitting around with a bunch of unfinished tracks. XD

Anyway, a small update to [link removed]--fixed the clipping issues at the beginning.

In other news, I just finished a Nayru's Song WIP, and Zorlaxseven and I have a Sadness/Lynna Village collab that's been waiting to be posted (I'll leave that to him, since he did the creative work on it). I'm also working on updating some other tracks, so I'll post those after a while.

[Zorlaxseven]

We were waiting on me to post the mix? I didn't know that, sorry; However, Lemon, I'd prefer if you do it. I've never really done too much on forums and wouldn't know how or what to do.

But don't worry, I'll be around checking on my critiques, taking them like a man :wink:

[Hylian Lemon]

Well, not entirely; part of the waiting was to make sure Jazz is Undead got enough attention. But all right, I'll post it.

This is a collab between Zorlaxseven and me. He did the arrangement, and I did the production (what little there is :tomatoface:). The title means "time conquers all" in Latin.

[link removed]
Sources: Sadness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tfxwDGGFOU), Lynna Village (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vy22b7ZZts)
Remixers: Hylian Lemon, Zorlaxseven

Comments? Suggestions?

P.S. Space has run out in the first post! From now on, you can only access the full track list on the site.

[Zorlaxseven]

And I'll take a minute to describe the song. (I just didn't want to do the linkage and screw something up and make a fool of myself.)

This song was partly inspired by The Fall of Iselia from the Summonig of Spirits album. I tried to write piano in that style, and in my opinion, I didn't really accomplish that goal :tomatoface:. For the most part it was just me, just writing. No real idea where I wanted to go or what I wanted to do. I learned later, that there was already a piano arrangement of Sadness and that I have it in my playlist, so I unintentionally stole some material.

I really had fun with this and am waiting to make it better.

[TheKrow]

Man I feel like this will be unnecessary...

Alright, well I just wanted to point out that "omnius" should be "omnia". Sorry, it's just I take Latin and those kind of mistakes bug me :/

Omni is a 4th declension neuter adjective, I believe, so the accusative form should be "omnia" since it's being used as substantive... If my Latin teacher knew, he'd hug me for this :<

Oh as for the song itself, I really think some realistic key velocities would help make this piece. I'm really digging the arrangement of it though. Some EQ support between the the legato strings and piano would be nice; it seemed as if the piano kept overpowering the strings. Maybe little tambourine or some kind of percussion would be nice as well, but that's merely a suggestion of my own because I love percussion :P

[Hylian Lemon]

Man I feel like this will be unnecessary...

Alright, well I just wanted to point out that "omnius" should be "omnia". Sorry, it's just I take Latin and those kind of mistakes bug me :/

Omni is a 4th declension neuter adjective, I believe, so the accusative form should be "omnia" since it's being used as substantive... If my Latin teacher knew, he'd hug me for this :<
We can change that. The translation came from my mom and younger sister, and they didn't have fancy words to back it up like you do. :<

And could I get some clarification on the EQ issue? Is it just that the strings are too quiet, or do you think the frequencies need to be separated or something? My production-sense (as well as my understanding-people-sense) is still rather weak. And I had to stop myself from using the tomatoface smiley AGAIN just now.

[M W]

Lemony.

I hereby wish to offer my skill outside of music for this project. I've been using HTML and CSS for close to nine years now. I can go through five tables of raw code in minutes.

That unofficial site is using what looks like a normal GooglePages template, or something otherwise limited. I'd like to be web designer for the project website.

... and maybe I'll be able to throw a mix in, if I'm daring enough. But...! Web Design I can certainly do.

[Hylian Lemon]

Lemony.

I hereby wish to offer my skill outside of music for this project. I've been using HTML and CSS for close to nine years now. I can go through five tables of raw code in minutes.

That unofficial site is using what looks like a normal GooglePages template, or something otherwise limited. I'd like to be web designer for the project website.

... and maybe I'll be able to throw a mix in, if I'm daring enough. But...! Web Design I can certainly do.
A graphic designer, a web designer, and a new Zelda trailer all in one day! By now my homework has given up on trying to get my attention.

I'll send you a detailed private message tomorrow; I don't have time for it tonight (the internet cuts off around 10pm at my house). But thanks for offering your help!

[TheKrow]

We can change that. The translation came from my mom and younger sister, and they didn't have fancy words to back it up like you do. :<

And could I get some clarification on the EQ issue? Is it just that the strings are too quiet, or do you think the frequencies need to be separated or something? My production-sense (as well as my understanding-people-sense) is still rather weak. And I had to stop myself from using the tomatoface smiley AGAIN just now.

Alright well, when I'm discussing the EQ, it's like this. Volumes of songs stay the same throughout a song right? Unless you change it with an automation or something of course. The EQ however is like a "smart" volume control that has to do with the individual pitch volumes of the instruments, not everything as a whole.

Let's say you have two treble instruments that are playing at the same part in a song and they are clashing horribly together. One is lead, the other is perhaps backing strings. Typically, you'd want the lead to stand out more, so to solve this problem, tune the highs on the strings below the 0.0dB bar, and the highs on the lead above it. This way the lead will have clear dominance, and they won't be fighting over one another.

But let's say that the strings are in a low pitch. You probably wouldn't have to tune that because the frequencies aren't fighting each other. Another example of this could be kicks and bass. Apply this to the lower frequencies if you want to hear your kicks over the bass.

This is kinda what I was getting at with the piano and the strings in the song. Once again, it could be my crappy headphones, but it's always good to make sure. Sorry, didn't mean to lecture :?

[Zorlaxseven]

Maybe little tambourine or some kind of percussion would be nice as well, but that's merely a suggestion of my own because I love percussion :P


I know what you're saying, but... A. I don't like a lot of percussion (I can lecture for hours on why I think percussion, in a lot of music, is pointless.) B. Since I have this distaste for percussion, I never really learned how to write good percussion parts.

I mean, to everyone else's ear, all my music can probably be benefited by adding in some percussion. I just can't let myself do that.

But keep the criticism comin'. Need more of it if I wanna be a better composer.

[Dj Mokram]

Hi there,

A minor detail seems not to have been mentioned in the thread: is there a genre restriction for the project?
Cause this seem to have a more cool, peaceful vibe to it so far.

[Hylian Lemon]

Hi there,

A minor detail seems not to have been mentioned in the thread: is there a genre restriction for the project?
Cause this seem to have a more cool, peaceful vibe to it so far.
Nope, there's no genre restriction. I'll make sure to emphasize that in the main post. Any illusion of one existing is probably the result of me being involved with most of the tracks at the moment.

[illidari]

Hi,

I was playing around with Ralph's theme. I have little experience with remixing but might as well start somewhere. I kept most of the midi's notes in tack in this file. I only have Finale 2008 to work with. First upload :-)

Give me your suggetions :)

http://mp3upload.ca/download/8965/ralphtheme1.mp3

[Hylian Lemon]

Pros:
-Production is pretty good as far as I'm concerned.
-Changes in instrumentation over the course of the track keep it from being too repetitive.
-Dropping the melody for a few seconds starting at 0:58 is a good idea. Even though those background notes have been going on throughout the track, bringing them to the front makes them seem fresh.

Cons:
-Despite the alterations you made in terms of instrumentation, the arrangement is too conservative. If you've kept most of the midi's notes intact like you said, you need to do some changing. Don't rely on a midi to do most of the work for you. That said, Ralph's theme is awesome enough that it deserves to be played conservatively once or twice. Just not for the whole track.
-The soundscape is a bit sparse. Filling in some other instruments would be a good opportunity to flesh out the theme and introduce some original material.
-It's so short! Yeah, Ralph's theme is pretty short to begin with, but you can fix that by adding original material or changing the melody every once in a while. You could get this at least over 2 minutes.

And you need to come up with a title!

Anyway, it's good to see this creepy burst in participation!

[illidari]

I reworked some of the instrumentation and added percussion in. Gonna see if I can extend it any longer while removing some of the main theme from playing over and over again :)
Thanks for suggestions

http://mp3upload.ca/download/9043/ralphtheme2.mp3

[Zorlaxseven]

No love for me and my song? I hope somebody will be able to criticize some way soon; i wanna edit a few times and lock it up.

[Hylian Lemon]

I'm debating whether this is the best setup for feedback. There are pros and cons to all the methods I can think of...

One topic for the whole project
+ Keeps the project contained and frequently bumped with updates.
- Gets a bit cluttered with all the WIPs, so they don't get all the attention they deserve.

One topic for each track
+ Each track may get more individual attention.
- Seems like it would clutter the WIP board, and the main topic would sink.

A project forum
+ Contained and lets each track have its own topic.
- Tracks wouldn't get much exposure/criticism beyond other remixers on the project.

If anyone has any thoughts on the matter, feel free to speak up.


illidari, it's already starting to sound more unique, though I noticed some off notes in the background around 0:54-0:56. Go ahead and continue working on the length/originality, and come back with a title!

[Dj Mokram]

That's a tricky situation indeed...

Even in the thread, tracks don't seem to receive a LOT of criticism.
The main problem of leaving the tracks feedback to the forum readers, is that it depends a whole lot on if they are going to read, listen and be willing to review.

There's an awful lot of projects running together, and unfortunately the average length of a day is still only 24h for everyone.
Each person is gonna pick the one game or style he or she is fond of, and maybe not bother with the rest.

That's why generally, the rating of the tracks for a project is a join effort between the team leader (or album director) & the co-coordinators.
Sometimes the director can prohibit posting tracks on the thread or WIP section, for the sake of keeping it fresh & contained, in case something happens...
And by what I've read, it often does.

Bottom line, the solution may involve selecting a small group of knowledgeable and dedicated people to assist you in this task.
Plan regular (net-)meetings to check the progress and fix the next milestone. Like some kind of production comitee I guess.
This may seem big in proportions, but I assure you it only requires a little bit of organisation... and time of course!
But it can help you bring together the whole thing and motivate people toward the same goal.

[Hylian Lemon]

I thought it over last night, and I think we'll go the traditional route and make a project forum. This topic is way too disorganized, and at the moment we're not really getting much feedback from anyone outside the project anyway. Hiring one or two co-coordinators is a good idea; I can provide feedback to people, but I'm not perfect. I'd ask Rozovian, but he's already tied up with the SD3 project. What we need is a Rozo clone.

So I might ask around. Whoever is reading this, if you're good at writing critiques and you'd be willing to help out, let me know.

[Dj Mokram]

What we need is a Rozo clone.
Those are pretty rare these days you know. :mrgreen:

Hopefully, the 'forum' will turn out to be the best choice.

Perhaps you could put the request for critics in the first post. Now it's an important part of your project too.
I would gladly help you looking out for willingful reviewers, but I doubt they would be charmed by my inexistant star power...
Guess I should get back to my Ganon remix now.

Anyway, I hope this project can gather some good & knowledgeable people to help with the critiques.

[TheKrow]

I say using the #ocrwip irc (haha, I love it) is one of the better options. Go ahead with the project forum idea, but it would be best for immediate feedback from good people. I know Taucer is usually always there and he's good at critques. I recommend checking it out at least once.

[Hylian Lemon]

Right, I'd still allow people to seek feedback elsewhere. #ocrwip is usually a pretty good source of criticism, for anyone who wants more than they're getting. Mainly the forum will be to help keep things more organized, though hopefully it'll allow contributors to more easily comment on each others' tracks.

So there we go:

Project forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com) (yes, it's proboards, and no, I don't care if you're one of those people who demand high-tech, pretty message boards for everything)

I'm putting it in the main post and contacting the contributors now. We may continue to post new tracks in this topic in order to keep it alive and visible to people who might be interested in joining, but contributors should focus their feedback on each other's tracks in the project forums.

[Hangman Delta]

i really wish i could contribute to this project more then just with graphics!

I love zelda!
but i have no recording equipment whatsoever, no money, and all i can really play is guitar and vox, and im not particularly spectacular at either! haha

so come on, you guys need step it up! i want to see this project kick serious ass!
the fate of one of my childhoods fondest games rests in your hands OCR community!

:D

[Rozovian]

I'd ask Rozovian, but he's already tied up with the SD3 project. What we need is a Rozo clone.

Aww, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now. :D

Actually, I could probably have a look at the tracklist some time, listen through, let you guys know what I think. Need to get some other stuff done first, tho.

[WindGuru]

Hi,

I was playing around with Ralph's theme. I have little experience with remixing but might as well start somewhere. I kept most of the midi's notes in tack in this file. I only have Finale 2008 to work with. First upload :-)

Give me your suggetions :)

http://mp3upload.ca/download/8965/ralphtheme1.mp3

Hah, one reason I'm here; I love Ralph! Bearing in mind that I know absolutely nothing about musical theory, I'll still try to give my feedback. :P

I like it a lot, and I like the instruments you used. However, it does seem a bit..."tinny" (?) compared to the other tracks here. Maybe its just the diffferent software you were using. Also, I'm not sure about whatever comes in at around 0:26. Somehow they just don't seem to fit the overall mood of the song, and seem to reverberate (is that right? :s) a bit. Maybe you could also try adding a song that fits Ralph as well to the mix?

Its pretty good though! Well done!

(Feel free to totally disregard everything I've written since I really know nothing about music. XDD)

[Dj Mokram]

Anyone still interested in joining can find most of the sources for the remaining tracks HERE (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BE08CF9270843AC0).

Last unclaimed tracks: (in alphabetical order)

Credits
Crescent Moon Island
Crown Dungeon
Ending Theme 1
Ending Theme 2
Evil Spreading
Fairies' Woods
Here Comes Maple!
Just Another Mad Dash!
Maple's Mad Dash
Room of Rites
Symmetry City (present)
Symmetry Village (past)
The Great Moblin
Trouble on the Raft!
Twinrova Battle

[TheKrow]

Dropping in to say that Spirit's Grave has been claimed by myself, and that Hangman Delta's sig for the project is pretty kick-ass. And please people, go to the project forum and contribute. Yes, this also goes out to all those of you who check out the thread, but aren't saying anything. We still love you :nicework:

[Reepar]

Hey Hylian Lemon, i love the EsscenceOfLime intro, but i think the beat at 2:11 to 2:15 should last a bit longer with the rest of the song still playing over it, because that beats just cool lol. Also i will try and do some banners for this within the next couple of days

[TheKrow]

Some unfortunate news to all; two a day ago my PC finally crapped out and I'm still trying to recover all of the projects I've been working on. I have pretty much no access to anything, but I'm still currently trying to get my work onto a flashdrive. It's really pissing me off because I was almost done with some of my best work on Spirit's Grave, but of course something bad to happen. I will be trying my best to get a new computer ASAP, so any help would be appreciated as far as suggestions would be great.

I posted a thread about it in the Community.

[Hangman Delta]

Thanks Krow! I really wanted to contribute to this project, tho i'm not that great of a composer, (not to mention no recording equipment whatsoever, haha) but i really excel in visual arts, so I made a wicked album cover, and then reworked it in to a banner as well, so lemon could have some artistic consistency for the project!

Huzzah!

Dropping in to say that Spirit's Grave has been claimed by myself, and that Hangman Delta's sig for the project is pretty kick-ass. And please people, go to the project forum and contribute. Yes, this also goes out to all those of you who check out the thread, but aren't saying anything. We still love you :nicework:

[Hangman Delta]

Hey Hylian Lemon, I wanted to add, I really dig the essence of lime track. Its a pretty damn enjoyable remix.That being said, I wanted to offer some constructive critisism on the song Swordbeams. While its not a bad track, the drum loops are REALLY repetitive. Mixing the Gameboy digital sounds is pretty cool, and very fitting when you look at the game its from, I just think the drums could use a little variation!.

[Hylian Lemon]

Hey Hylian Lemon, I wanted to add, I really dig the essence of lime track. Its a pretty damn enjoyable remix.That being said, I wanted to offer some constructive critisism on the song Swordbeams. While its not a bad track, the drum loops are REALLY repetitive. Mixing the Gameboy digital sounds is pretty cool, and very fitting when you look at the game its from, I just think the drums could use a little variation!.
True; that was me being lazy and newgroundsy. :< But that can be fixed pretty easily.

For anyone who might be interested in the boss or miniboss tracks, I'm withdrawing my claim on them for now; I have some work done on them, but I'm not the greatest at that kind of high-energy track. I'll finish them if necessary, but someone else could definitely do a better job on them.

[Zarmakuizz]

I think the miniboss battle music is close to the Twinrova battle.

TheKrow, what did happen to your computer this time? Is the HDD all right?

[TheKrow]

At ease, I finally got it to work. I had completely forgotten about Safe Mode, so I fixed it running from there; for now anyway. Expect version one of my Spirit's Grave mix tonight, once it's done rendering. FL studio can be touchy when it comes to rendering time, I just don't understand sometimes :?

[TheKrow]

Please excuse, the double post, but I have now completed the Spirit's Grave track I call "Tombstone Factory". Please let me know what you think; I myself think I could have done a little more on the mastering, but you can only do so much. Anything you feel will make it more awsm please feel free to express. It will be posted on the Project Forum (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/) shortly.

http://tindeck.com/image/nigy/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/nigy)

[Zarmakuizz]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6163/holyshitthisisawesome.jpg

Seriously, I like this music.

[Dj Mokram]

For anyone who might be interested in the boss or miniboss tracks, I'm withdrawing my claim on them for now; I have some work done on them, but I'm not the greatest at that kind of high-energy track. I'll finish them if necessary, but someone else could definitely do a better job on them.

If some epic-orchestral remake that doesn't necessarily involves electric guitar ( again :mrgreen: ) interests you, I could cook something for one of these...
Or maybe we could collab? Cause it would be a waste if you've already done that much work on it.

Krow, your 'Tombstone Factory' sounds great. The overall volume is a bit loud, but I liked your interpretation. Cheers.

[Hylian Lemon]

If some epic-orchestral remake that doesn't necessarily involves electric guitar ( again :mrgreen: ) interests you, I could cook something for one of these...
Or maybe we could collab? Cause it would be a waste if you've already done that much work on it.
Boss and miniboss have actually already been reclaimed (by Sockpuppet5). :< If you're interested enough, you can take them as well--we already have a couple tracks that are claimed by multiple people--but I'd rather have the other tracks filled first.

And don't worry about the work I already did on it. I am more than happy to just let that project file rot.

[Dj Mokram]

Boss and miniboss have actually already been reclaimed (by Sockpuppet5). :< If you're interested enough, you can take them as well--we already have a couple tracks that are claimed by multiple people--but I'd rather have the other tracks filled first.
And don't worry about the work I already did on it. I am more than happy to just let that project file rot.

It's okay, actually I would rather take the unclaimed tracks too. I'm commited to do as much as I can to help this project see the light.

[Hylian Lemon]

New track:

[link removed]
Source: Nayru's Song
Remixer: Hylian Lemon
Last update: 04-06-09

[Zarmakuizz]

That's great!

[JH Sounds]

I'm gonna have to donate a post here, since I've viewed the thread so many times...

[Hylian Lemon]

I'm gonna have to donate a post here, since I've viewed the thread so many times...
Alternatively, you could donate something more, such as a track. :<

New track:

[link removed]
Source: Ambi's Palace
Remixer: Hylian Lemon
Last update: 04-16-09

Basically based on the events after Mermaid's Cave. Link searches the palace in search of Nayru, has a battle with NayruVeran, Veran switches over to Queen Ambi, and then Nayru warps herself and Link out of the palace before the guards kill them. Then they're all like "oh noes now the queen is Veran."

[Zarmakuizz]

Wtf? I just write two words and the message is well, and when I write an entire book OCR told me that the message is too short? That sucks...



Your new track is beautiful, good job. Time for a new music on my mp3 player!

Last week I spoke to a friend, a good drawer, about this album.
First time :
_Hey, do you know someone is remixing all the musics of Zelda : Oracle of Ages?
_Oh yeah, the Subrosians! I want the Subrosians!
_No, it's Oracles of Ages!
_I know, but I want the Subrosians!
8O
Second time, I show him Not bad for a Diva. He enjoyed, but quickly :
_Now, show me the Oracles of Seasons album!
...8O
Yes, he is coming from a manga...

Seriously. He would have done a picture for the album but he still doesn't have time (me neither) with studies, maybe during summer but not now. At least I tried...

PS : What can I do about this st*p*d rule? Three times my message is too short. Next time I will post Great instead of an entire book.

[The Pezman]

Why do you want to keep this unofficial?

[Hylian Lemon]

Wtf? I just write two words and the message is well, and when I write an entire book OCR told me that the message is too short? That sucks...



Your new track is beautiful, good job. Time for a new music on my mp3 player!

Last week I spoke to a friend, a good drawer, about this album.
First time :
_Hey, do you know someone is remixing all the musics of Zelda : Oracle of Ages?
_Oh yeah, the Subrosians! I want the Subrosians!
_No, it's Oracles of Ages!
_I know, but I want the Subrosians!
8O
Second time, I show him Not bad for a Diva. He enjoyed, but quickly :
_Now, show me the Oracles of Seasons album!
...8O
Yes, he is coming from a manga...

Seriously. He would have done a picture for the album but he still doesn't have time (me neither) with studies, maybe during summer but not now. At least I tried...

PS : What can I do about this st*p*d rule? Three times my message is too short. Next time I will post Great instead of an entire book.
Haha. I had considered making it an Oracles series project, but I decided that was too much to shoot for. Ages has always been my favorite, so I went for that.

Why do you want to keep this unofficial?
Well, I didn't think there'd be enough interest to warrant quality-control auditions, and I can't really demand near-OCR quality from the contributors if I'm not at that level myself.

[prophetik]

i should point out that i haven't forgotten you, lemon. end-of-semester crapped on me recently, and i've been worrying about that. there will be saxophone, yet.

[Hylian Lemon]

i should point out that i haven't forgotten you, lemon. end-of-semester crapped on me recently, and i've been worrying about that. there will be saxophone, yet.
I guess I can forgive you. :<


[link removed] has been updated with a short orchestral intro. Picture Link entering the bright gardens with the palace towering over everything. Then he finds the secret entrance and the drums kick in.

[Zarmakuizz]

Sorry for late. I heard the new version of the track, this intro is really a good idea, you did a good job. Congrats!

[WindGuru]

Um, same!

Awesome as ever. Its interesting to see the different styles this project is going with...

[TheKrow]

Alright, so Mr. Lemon and I finished a track for Goron Caves over the past few days, and I think it turned out great. His arrangements never cease to amaze me :|. Let us know what you think... I'll leave it to him to post it on the project forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/).

http://tindeck.com/image/kqlm/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/kqlm)

[Zarmakuizz]

TheKrow, will you work more your Ganon Never Ages? I enjoy it but the track is a bit short.

I don't have heard this "Ganon's League of Evil". It's light, but i like it (this track contains two of my favorites musics). Good job.


HylianLemon, i was hearing your Dead or Alive music, when i remembered i have got a harpsichord. He is old, some keys don't work, however i would like to try what it does if i replace the electric piano by my harpsichord. Do you still have the sources of Dead or Alive? If yes, can i have it?
(I don't know when i will do this, actually i have many test and i can't fail, however I can't work at home so maybe i will try it soon.)


Oh, about the last music. It's like sleeping on a field in a summer's night : beautiful. Very well!

[TheKrow]

TheKrow, will you work more your Ganon Never Ages? I enjoy it but the track is a bit short.

Sorry dude, not my track.

[Sockpuppet]

I don't have heard this "Ganon's League of Evil". It's light, but i like it (this track contains two of my favorites musics). Good job.

That's my track.:< I didn't think it was going very well, but you've just motivated/inspired/(whatever I'm trying to say) me to finish it. Thanks Zarmakuizz!:-P
(Working on the volume too)

[TheKrow]

Hey Sock, I saw your WIP of the Mining Melancholy, or whatever the name is. We need that kind of bad-ass mixin' in here, if ya know what ah mean :nicework:

[callitsleep89]

id like to try my hand at the music side and (possibly) the art side of this project if there is still time

[Hylian Lemon]

HylianLemon, i was hearing your Dead or Alive music, when i remembered i have got a harpsichord. He is old, some keys don't work, however i would like to try what it does if i replace the electric piano by my harpsichord. Do you still have the sources of Dead or Alive? If yes, can i have it?
(I don't know when i will do this, actually i have many test and i can't fail, however I can't work at home so maybe i will try it soon.)
It's possible, though I don't know about the whole "some keys don't work" part... I'm not sure whether a harpsichord would work in it, but you're welcome to send me a sample recording whenever you find time, and I can decide whether it's worth the trouble.

id like to try my hand at the music side and (possibly) the art side of this project if there is still time
Yup, there haven't been any deadlines set yet. You can look through the track list (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1) and tell me what you're interested in claiming. And you're welcome any time to contribute album art for consideration.

[callitsleep89]

Ill take trouble on the raft! Hopefully after I'm done moving I'll get some demos up on this and (hopefully) some cover art as well.

[JH Sounds]

To make a short story long: I stumbled upon the Crescent Island track (or is it Crescent Moon Island?) and I liked it, then forgot about it. Later on when I was doing one of my daily experiments, the source made a resurgence in my consciousness and I ended up laying it down. Here's the thing though: rather than playing it straight, the version I put down morphed into this strangely familiar tune that I can't quite put my finger on. Anyone recognize it?

TL;DR:

http://tindeck.com/image/doxu/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/doxu)

[Hylian Lemon]

Ill take trouble on the raft! Hopefully after I'm done moving get some demos up on this and (hopefully) some cover art as well.
All right! You're on the list.

To make a short story long: I stumbled upon the Crescent Island track (or is it Crescent Moon Island?) and I liked it, then forgot about it. Later on when I was doing one of my daily experiments, the source made a resurgence in my consciousness and I ended up laying it down. Here's the thing though: rather than playing it straight, the version I put down morphed into this strangely familiar tune that I can't quite put my finger on. Anyone recognize it?

TL;DR:

http://tindeck.com/image/doxu/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/doxu)
Can't say I recognize anything besides Crescent Island, but I like the track. Want to claim it and keep developing it? (by the way, they added "Moon" on the soundtrack, but I've left it out because it's not there in the game)

[TheKrow]

To make a short story long: I stumbled upon the Crescent Island track (or is it Crescent Moon Island?) and I liked it, then forgot about it. Later on when I was doing one of my daily experiments, the source made a resurgence in my consciousness and I ended up laying it down. Here's the thing though: rather than playing it straight, the version I put down morphed into this strangely familiar tune that I can't quite put my finger on. Anyone recognize it?

TL;DR:

http://tindeck.com/image/doxu/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/doxu)

OMG it sounds so familiar, but I just can't think of the right source... Definitely sounds like something from a bar.. or something... whatever, I'm not going to try and figure it out :?

[Zarmakuizz]

Sorry dude, not my track.
Oups, you are right, sorry. I guess i better send him a message.

That's my track.:< I didn't think it was going very well, but you've just motivated/inspired/(whatever I'm trying to say) me to finish it. Thanks Zarmakuizz!:razz:
(Working on the volume too)
I'm glad to know that you don't have finished it. But take care! Now I know who you are, so if you will think a second about stopping to work this music... http://secretforum.fr/smileys/69.gif
Understood? :-D

It's possible, though I don't know about the whole "some keys don't work" part...
Speaking about the harpsicore, I just tried it after dinner. Two keys sounded bad and another was not loud at all, when i saw there was a cord in a bad place. I replace it, now all works with this harpsicore.
I didn't play piano for last september, i have to find some sheet for a small training.

just64helpin : your track makes me think about Battle Rocks (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00970/).

[JH Sounds]

just64helpin : your track makes me think about Battle Rocks (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00970/).

AHA! I must have lifted it from SMB3, then. Incidentally I noticed a bit of "Rhapsody in Blue", too. Mystery solved. :-D

Want to claim it and keep developing it?

Uh, well it wasn't an actual remix attempt per se, so it's probably best to leave that source unclaimed for other people.

[Hylian Lemon]

Uh, well it wasn't an actual remix attempt per se, so it's probably best to leave that source unclaimed for other people.
If you say so. But let me know if you change your mind. :<

[atomicthumbs]

To make a short story long: I stumbled upon the Crescent Island track (or is it Crescent Moon Island?) and I liked it, then forgot about it. Later on when I was doing one of my daily experiments, the source made a resurgence in my consciousness and I ended up laying it down. Here's the thing though: rather than playing it straight, the version I put down morphed into this strangely familiar tune that I can't quite put my finger on. Anyone recognize it?

TL;DR:

http://tindeck.com/image/doxu/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/doxu)

Reminds me of the Subrosia theme from OoS.

[Dj Mokram]

TheKrow, will you work more your Ganon Never Ages? I enjoy it but the track is a bit short.

Yeah, and he also shouldn't forget to work on his nice 'Veiled in Secrecy' track.
Overall Dj moKrow is a pretty cool guy. :mrgreen:

[TheKrow]

Yeah, and he also shouldn't forget to work on his nice 'Veiled in Secrecy' track.
Overall Dj moKrow is a pretty cool guy. :mrgreen:

Yeah seriously, he needs to get his ass busy and make it finishable quality.

And speaking of finishable quality, Ben, the whole Spirit's Grave panning issue... well since my computer wiped a few weeks back, I have nothing left of the work file. No kidding eh? If you still don't like the second edit just use the first one, it's up to you. I think I'd cut myself if I had to do it again, or something along those lines :puppyeyes:

[Hylian Lemon]

I think the less-harshly-panned version is better. If anyone disagrees, they can say so, but I'm calling that the final version for now.

My AP tests are officially over, but I still have a lot of accumulated assignments to take care of for this week and some of next week. After that, I'll have a little bit of time to work on this project before a trip-riddled June, during which I'll be home for a total of about five seconds. My main project at the moment is the Tokay House theme, so that might get done before I leave. Maybe.

[TheKrow]

Well while we're on the subject of ReMixer availability, I already started a WIP of the Overworld theme and it's coming along nicely, as in I haven't hit a road block just yet. I believe though, I'll either finish it myself, or ask someone who I've had in mind for a while. Not that I wouldn't want to collab with the amazing Hylian Lemon, it's just that I know he's busy, busy guy.

[prophetik]

sorry to be a hassle, but all those images and links in the first post are toast. dunno if you noticed.

just take out the stars and you should be fine.

[Hylian Lemon]

Oh, I did that on purpose for lazy people. In case someone wanted to just copy one thing and take out the stars. I could only have four images in the post anyway.

[Hylian Lemon]

Time for a new track. It's kinda islandy and jungley and quirky.

[link removed]
Source: Tokay Hut
Remixer: Hylian Lemon
Last update: 06-02-09

[TheKrow]

Haha, you just wanted to use that soundfont I gave you, again. Anyway, it's pretty awesome Lemon, I'm glad you showed up with something fresh; hopefully we can cover all the genres because it's beginning to come relatively close. :|

I'm not so much in a critiquey mood right now, so my words of wisdom may be few, but I suggest coming up with a killer solo between multiple instruments like with a marimba, steel drum, or whatever you choose to use.

[BLUamnEsiac]

I love all things Zelda and really like what you guys have done so far. Here are three possible alternate cd covers I'd like to submit to you guys.

[Link] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3621074190/
[Nayru] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3620254931/
[Veran] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3621074496/

[Ronyn]

I wanted to listen to this, but I saw the intro post and got confused and the last page has a new track? This thread is confusing :(

(Yes, I am lazy)

[Gust Man]

Would you mind if I illustrated a album cover for this project? I would love to do one for this because this series brings back so many memories for me. Right now I'm illustrating a book, but I should FINALLY be done with that by the end of this week (good god I am I tired of that project!) and I'll get started on this as soon as I can, hey at least I could enjoy this one. I'll probably use the painter and photoshop and do digital work if that's all right.

Here is some of my work

retr0man.deviantart.com
mao-of-flame.deviantart.com

The first one on there, is my main work now, I need to move all of my stuff from the mao-of-flame one to my new account... If I can figure out my password first...

[Hylian Lemon]

Back from the western coast! I'm left wondering why so many people don't live in San Francisco. Anyway, I still have a four-day conference thingy starting Thursday, but one of my trips has been postponed until later this summer. So I won't be gone as long as I had planned this month.

I love all things Zelda and really like what you guys have done so far. Here are three possible alternate cd covers I'd like to submit to you guys.

[Link] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3621074190/
[Nayru] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3620254931/
[Veran] http://www.flickr.com/photos/35701266@N08/3621074496/
Thanks for contributing! I've saved them with the other covers. Right now I'm assuming that by "alternate" you mean you're not interested in consideration for the official site's graphic design and stuff. Let me know if you are, and I'll put you on that list instead!

I wanted to listen to this, but I saw the intro post and got confused and the last page has a new track? This thread is confusing :(

(Yes, I am lazy)
I had been posting all the tracks in the first post, but I ran out of room. You can find an up-to-date list of all the completed and work-in-progress tracks on the temporary website (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/).

Would you mind if I illustrated a album cover for this project? I would love to do one for this because this series brings back so many memories for me. Right now I'm illustrating a book, but I should FINALLY be done with that by the end of this week (good god I am I tired of that project!) and I'll get started on this as soon as I can, hey at least I could enjoy this one. I'll probably use the painter and photoshop and do digital work if that's all right.

Here is some of my work

retr0man.deviantart.com
mao-of-flame.deviantart.com

The first one on there, is my main work now, I need to move all of my stuff from the mao-of-flame one to my new account... If I can figure out my password first...
Go ahead! Are you going to be offering it as a purely alternate cover or would you like to be eligible for official status (designing site graphics)?

[Gust Man]

I'd go for either really, I've already finished designing the logo, I finally got a solid idea for what I want the cover to look like. I don't want to spoil anything though, but I'll say it should really capture a lot of Oracle of Ages Spirit!

[BLUamnEsiac]

Back from the western coast! I'm left wondering why so many people don't live in San Francisco. Anyway, I still have a four-day conference thingy starting Thursday, but one of my trips has been postponed until later this summer. So I won't be gone as long as I had planned this month.


Thanks for contributing! I've saved them with the other covers. Right now I'm assuming that by "alternate" you mean you're not interested in consideration for the official site's graphic design and stuff. Let me know if you are, and I'll put you on that list instead!


I had been posting all the tracks in the first post, but I ran out of room. You can find an up-to-date list of all the completed and work-in-progress tracks on the temporary website (http://hylianlemon.googlepages.com/).


Go ahead! Are you going to be offering it as a purely alternate cover or would you like to be eligible for official status (designing site graphics)?

I could design the site's graphics as well, should I be selected for that job. The word alternate weighed on my mind because I had three versions and wanted to give people a few choices. I don't really get online very much these days, so please excuse me if a week or more passes between my responses.

[Hylian Lemon]

Ok, I put you both on the eligible list. You can join the project forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi) if you'd like; there's a topic there for posting cover art.

[Gust Man]

Here is the logo for my cover art, starting to work on characters in photoshop and painter now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Nesso/LargeCDTitlecopy.png

[WindGuru]

Here is the logo for my cover art, starting to work on characters in photoshop and painter now.



If its not too much...could you do something with Ralph in it? Sorry, I've just loved that guy since I was eleven and the game first came out, and I guess I never got over it ^^;. Sorry if its more work XDD.

[Gust Man]

If its not too much...could you do something with Ralph in it? Sorry, I've just loved that guy since I was eleven and the game first came out, and I guess I never got over it ^^;. Sorry if its more work XDD.

No need to worry bud, he was my favorite character in the game, he is in both versions of the cover I am working on.

[Hylian Lemon]

[link removed]
Sources: Symmetry Village, Symmetry City
Remixer: Hylian Lemon
Last update: 07-20-09

Tried to make it cartoony and upbeat. Took a little inspiration from Paper Mario. It's based more on the city version, but I took pieces from the village version and sped them up.

[Gust Man]

Just to let you all know still working on stuff, this is taking longer than I thought, I decided to make an addition that pushed the completion time a little back. Lemon, if you want to see some of the character designs just let me know.

[Gust Man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/Nesso/CDcoverfinal.png

Here is the final stages of the front cover. Near completion, after some input from others in the community, I'll make the appropriate adjustments to finally finish it. I'll start working on the back and other stuff afterward.

[JH Sounds]

By popular demand (i.e. Hylian's PM :wink:), here's a longer version of my mix:

http://tindeck.com/image/uwby/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/uwby)

[Hylian Lemon]

By popular demand (i.e. Hylian's PM :wink:), here's a longer version of my mix:

http://tindeck.com/image/uwby/stats.png (http://tindeck.com/listen/uwby)
Yay! I hoped you'd give in. I really like this track; it's slower and calmer than what I would've done, and it works pretty well.

In other news, I've split up the unclaimed tracks (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=1) into two categories. There are four more tracks that I'd like to see on the project; if any of them don't get claimed by the end of August, I'll do them myself. Then there's another group of tracks that I won't claim, either because they're based on the overworld theme or because I just don't care about them. Unless someone else claims them, they'll be dropped from the project.

I'd prefer the important tracks to get claimed first, but if any of you prospective remixers see an unimportant track that you really like, go ahead and claim it.

I guess this kind of leads into the deadlines. I'll be contacting the remixers closer to the end of August to inform everyone about the deadlines and to give a final call for any remaining important tracks. Basically:

WIP deadline (at least one minute of work): October 31
Final deadline: December 31

I'm not going to be super strict about the deadlines, but I'm not going to like you if you miss them.

[Sockpuppet]

Well, I really like the sound of Ending Theme 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdfDpWND14&fmt=18), and someone asked me to make a ReMix of the Zelda theme almost a year ago, so if I ever finish my first track (yeah, I've still got writer's block:oops:) I'd like to have a shot at it.

[Hylian Lemon]

Feel free to take a stab at it first if you're having trouble with the other track.

[PROTO·DOME]

Hey, saw you had a couple of tracks going. I know they're pretty much the overworld theme but I was thinking about making a medly of the Title, File Select and Game Over themes. Lemme know if you want that or not. ^___^

[Hylian Lemon]

Three overworld variations with one stone? Sounds like a plan. You're on the list. Post your WIP on the project forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi) (or here) when you've got something to show.

[HitoriJaNai]

I'M GOING TO MAKE A TRACK FOR THIS NOM NOM NOM!!

Ahem. Anyways, I was thinking of going for Fairie's Woods, see what I can do to make it less annoying. :-P

[Hylian Lemon]

I'M GOING TO MAKE A TRACK FOR THIS NOM NOM NOM!!

Ahem. Anyways, I was thinking of going for Fairie's Woods, see what I can do to make it less annoying. :-P
Sweet. I put you on the list. Post your WIP on the forums (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi) when it's ready.

Anyway, I might as well post this here, just in case any fellow OCRians suddenly decide to start giving feedback again. *glares at you, the reader*

[link removed]
Source: Crown Dungeon
Remixer: Hylian Lemon
Last update: 08-05-09

Not the most appealing track to remix...

[Zorlaxseven]

A few things:

Awesome song, Lemon. I mean.. Just wow. That was such a shitty source (I'm sorry, I know you love all the music in this game, hence the project), and turned it into something worth downloading. Once again, your style shines through on to your song, and I have little to say in order for the song to get "better." (On the music side. I don't have an ear for production to speak of.)

Also, I'll take both Maple songs. I was planning on doing kind of a surprise thing, just showing up with a remix of both of them, but it looks like the last few songs are getting gobbled up. I can't let that happen to the ones I want to do!

Lastly... Umm... No one has said anything about my song (Tempus). If no one has anything to say, and you can't think of anything to add or how to make it better (because I know I have nothing to add), then I propose that we lock up the song.

(Also, on the Maple songs, can we do it like you and I did before? I write a midi and you make it sound good? If not, that's okay. I can manage SOMETHING on my own, but I know you're much better than me at this stuff.)

[Hylian Lemon]

Awesome song, Lemon. I mean.. Just wow. That was such a shitty source (I'm sorry, I know you love all the music in this game, hence the project), and turned it into something worth downloading. Once again, your style shines through on to your song, and I have little to say in order for the song to get "better." (On the music side. I don't have an ear for production to speak of.)
Thanks! And I don't really like that source either. It's an ok song, but it was hell to work with. :<

Also, I'll take both Maple songs. I was planning on doing kind of a surprise thing, just showing up with a remix of both of them, but it looks like the last few songs are getting gobbled up. I can't let that happen to the ones I want to do!

...

(Also, on the Maple songs, can we do it like you and I did before? I write a midi and you make it sound good? If not, that's okay. I can manage SOMETHING on my own, but I know you're much better than me at this stuff.)
LET'S DO IT

Lastly... Umm... No one has said anything about my song (Tempus). If no one has anything to say, and you can't think of anything to add or how to make it better (because I know I have nothing to add), then I propose that we lock up the song.
I'm still thinking about going to #ocrwip with it; I think an arrangement that cool deserves some better production, and I could use some ideas about how to do that.




Tracklist update:

There are two more important tracks left: The Maku Tree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T419DjeSpH0) and Veran Defeated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW0nO2JK58E) (which is labeled as "Credits & Staff Roll" even though it's not).
And two unimportant tracks: Just Another Mad Dash! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d_ScJNvaEE) and The Great Moblin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-g5DAXrZZs).

[TheKrow]

Yo. Sorry it's been so long since I showed up, I've been working so much that I haven't had time to keep following the project... Now that school is almost starting again I'll actually have more free time than I did -_-.

Anyway, the Overworld theme that I was originally working on... I did complete a decent chunk of the song and so far it turned out the way I wanted, but that was probably early June or even earlier. I did have someone that was planning to help, buuuuuuut they had to go on vacation last minute so the song went to hell.

I lost pretty much all my creative inspiration for this song, so if anyone wants to pick up from where I left off feel free to let me know and I'll whip up a MIDI or flp file. I've only actually completed one song over this summer, and that was an original piece for my "band" (I know it should have been the project song :P).

Well, other than all that, it's good to be back!

EDIT: Oh yes, I also want to fix up my Lynna City song. Going back and listening to it a couple times made me go "bleh".

[LuketheXjesse]

so what songs are open in this project that have some Metal Potential?

I'm on a project or two, but I want more to do. (hey, that rhymes!)

[TheKrow]

so what songs are open in this project that have some Metal Potential?

I'm on a project or two, but I want more to do. (hey, that rhymes!)

Check the "Track List" link on the first page. I think your options are pretty slim though unless you're that good at doing metal arrangements.

[Zorlaxseven]

I lost pretty much all my creative inspiration for this song, so if anyone wants to pick up from where I left off feel free to let me know and I'll whip up a MIDI or flp file.


What kind of song was it, Krow? I might be interested.

[PROTO·DOME]

Hey Krow, I'll steal it- I've already done one overworld variation and quite fancy another in a different style- but if anyone else REALLY REALLY wants it then they can have it. A MIDI would be cool to look at too.

[Hylian Lemon]

I'll just leave krow on the list for overworld until you guys figure out what to do with it. :<

so what songs are open in this project that have some Metal Potential?

I'm on a project or two, but I want more to do. (hey, that rhymes!)
The Great Moblin's Keep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-g5DAXrZZs) might be a good option, though you should check out the track list (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=1) like krow said. There are only a few other open tracks at this point.

[TheKrow]

I've been trying to render an mp3 of what I have so far and post it, but for some reason FL studio hasn't been cooperating; it seems to get to 100% and just stop there. I'll figure it out, but until then please be patient :P

[TheKrow]

So sorry for the double-post, but just a quick update.

-The Overworld theme I was working on seems to have just completely failed on me for some reason. FL will render any song I have but that one, and I can't even render it in a MIDI. No mp3, no wav, no MIDI, no OGG, no nothing. Sorry, but it looks like someone will have to break this in without a start from me.

-As for a track update, I recently fixed up Jazz is Undead and would like to see some feedback on it. It's either 1 or 2 more changes from being REALLY completed, so let's get this one out of the way! Song can be found here (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wip&action=display&thread=32&page=1).

[PROTO·DOME]

Hey, what the hell, here's (http://www.mediafire.com/?wlmimmyxznj) a shameless post of my Overworld Mix if anyone wants to criticize it. Would be much appriciated. ^o^ Just wanna say the project's coming along nicely guys.

[TheKrow]

Hey, what the hell, here's (http://www.mediafire.com/?wlmimmyxznj) a shameless post of my Overworld Mix if anyone wants to criticize it. Would be much appriciated. ^o^ Just wanna say the project's coming along nicely guys.

This is seriously the most bad-ass chip-tuning I have ever heard, like ever. What I would give for some of those sounds you have... Just curious Proto, do you do strictly midi editing / sampling, or do you use a midi keyboard to play some parts yourself? And what's the DAW that you use? I'll probably think of some constructive criticism tomorrow.

[PROTO·DOME]

I'm a sequencer; I'd LOVE to be able to play keyboard but, sadly, I cannot. I use FLstudio and as for the sounds... Hrm, I'll collect up a bunch of URLs of where I got them and PM you, if y'like?

Oh and thanks. ^o^

[TheKrow]

That would be great if you could PM where you got them to me; or even better, post it on the resources thread in the Project Forum. I have a feeling Ben would be ecstatic to have great chip-tuning software.

[Escariot]

I can host/mirror releases for you on conjamspace.com

[Hylian Lemon]

We've got a host with "unlimited" storage and bandwidth, but I guess a mirror is always good, right? I don't really know how popular this will end up being, but best to be on the safe side. Thank you for the offer. I can contact you once the project is nearing the final release.

post it on the resources thread in the Project Forum
yes please

[TheKrow]

Updates: Jazz is Undead (http://www.esnips.com/doc/d0c382f5-cebd-4f2f-ae64-cb50864ce3f2/Krow,-Hylian-Lemon---Jazz-is-Undead), Ballad of Ages
(http://www.esnips.com/doc/2ff865e2-cae1-49a0-b922-bb362f2edeb9/Krow---Ballad-of-Ages)
Go check 'em out and let me know what you think here, or on the Project Forums.

EDIT: Fixed the links to the songs to link to the actual host.

[Salluz]

I have never forgotten this group. Hell, I have a list of tasks to run down the archive.

[Zarmakuizz]

I hate this yahooapis I have to unlock or else I cannot post here...
Well, long time I did not come here.

ProtoDome, your track is ... awesome ! I can do my homeworks with it, and I enjoy it, so it can only be at least good.
Nice job !
I will hear later the new tracks TheKrow have posted before, i should first create an account on the forum. :P

[Hylian Lemon]

I've actually set some restrictions on joining/viewing the forums, just to get a little bit more privacy in case some contributors want their tracks to be a surprise. Any criticism by outsiders can be done in this topic, though!

[PROTO·DOME]

ProtoDome, your track is ... awesome ! I can do my homeworks with it, and I enjoy it, so it can only be at least good.

Yaya!

And on another note- I keep forgetting to post those 8-bit VSTI's... Don't worry Krow and the gang, I will get round to it.

[TheKrow]

Yaya!

And on another note- I keep forgetting to post those 8-bit VSTI's... Don't worry Krow and the gang, I will get round to it.

Krow... and the gang!? This statement makes me feel special.

[GTAHater836]

Are things going smoothly? This is my favorite unofficial project on OC Remix. I played Oracle of Ages a long time ago, and I'm anticipating the album more than ever. A major decision come February is which Zelda website should get it first.

[Hylian Lemon]

We're making progress, slowly but surely. Or just slowly. But it's still progress! People, if you're on the project and have been lying dormant for a while, let me know you're still alive by joining the project forums and posting a WIP in the spirit of Halloween, eh? Your costumes can wait.

And we're still looking for a few more tracks to be claimed (list (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1)).

[Zorlaxseven]

I'm here. I'm alive; I promise.

It's actually funny, I've been laying around on my song for a while now, and then just today I thought, "I'm going to finish this NOW, no matter what." Well, guess what. I finished my song. I'll PM you the midi soon Lemon.

(It's a bit rough and we'll have fun figuring out all the dynamics and crap like that. :)

I think you'll enjoy it.

C-yah!

[HitoriJaNai]

Here and alive and still trying to frickin' make sense of how Fairys' Woods can sound LESS annoying.

I may just botch it and make it more annoying, who knows? :shock:

[Zorlaxseven]

still trying to frickin' make sense of how Fairys' Woods can sound LESS annoying.


Heh. Good luck

[TheKrow]

Here and alive and still trying to frickin' make sense of how Fairys' Woods can sound LESS annoying.

I may just botch it and make it more annoying, who knows? :shock:

Here's a tip: slow down the tempo, maybe?

[Dj Mokram]

Here and alive and still trying to frickin' make sense of how Fairys' Woods can sound LESS annoying.


Heh. Good luck

^ this. Believe me, I tried...

I may just botch it and make it more annoying, who knows? :shock:

Whatever you do, don't pitch the lead upward, PLEASE! :mrgreen:

[Zorlaxseven]

We should just all put our minds together and do a super-remix of Faries Woods. With all of us together it'll turn out.... alright.:tomatoface:

[HitoriJaNai]

Here's a tip: slow down the tempo, maybe?
Yeah, my thoughts were to make it slower and darker, kind of like if the fairies had a dark and sad side. :-P

^ this. Believe me, I tried...


Whatever you do, don't pitch the lead upward, PLEASE! :mrgreen:
No worries there; as I said, working on making it darker and sadder. :)

We should just all put our minds together and do a super-remix of Faries Woods. With all of us together it'll turn out.... alright.:tomatoface:
I'm up for whatever. Once I get a WIP up or something... well, who knows? If it goes in a specific direction that I want to finish, I can always take it down the path as well as see where someone else wants to go with it. Two versions, like a past and present. :D

[GTAHater836]

I don't want to hear any new or newly appended material yet. All I want before this gets released is an update in the forums' track list to show what has a WIP and what's finished, and THAT's if there is anything to update there.

As for the Faeries's Woods, I'd have to agree with the slower, darker theme. Sometimes, if a style doesn't match the original environment, it's still the only way to make a good track.

[Zorlaxseven]

Wait a minute...

When did you take down the googlepages site for Essence of Lime, Lemon? It's all... your stuff now :?. (The face is in sarcasm, before I get shot)

(I, oddly, was really liking that stie. Very simple design). Now it looks like I'll have to sign up to the proboards forum in order to hear the songs on our neat little project. (Yes, I know I should have done this months ago.)

[Hylian Lemon]

A while back I came to the same decision as GTAHater...figured it would be cool if I didn't release every single track before the project was done. So I restricted forum access and took down the site. I'm still allowing people to post WIPs here or wherever, but I've stopped doing it myself since people pretty much stopped giving critique after the first few pages.

And we'll see about Fairies' Woods. I do like Hitori's idea about a past and present version, given the fact that there isn't much new music in between the first and second dungeons. We'll let Hitori finish and then decide whether anyone wants to do a massive collab happy present version, letting the darker version represent the past. For now, everyone focus on your own tracks.

[Zorlaxseven]

I was just being sarcastic about the massive collab of the song. I feel that I "finished" my track, so I can fudge around now :]

[Level 99]

Hmm....so this is what all those Limers are talking about, a limey project about limes...run by a guy named lemon. Ironic.

[Hylian Lemon]

I was just being sarcastic about the massive collab of the song.
Sarcasm does not undermine the inherent perfection of this idea. :<

Hmm....so this is what all those Limers are talking about, a limey project about limes...run by a guy named lemon. Ironic.
It's part of the Lemon-Lime Coexistence Movement. I'm so ahead of my time, it doesn't even exist yet.

But it will. Oh, it will.

[TheKrow]

Lemons are technically limes, just with much more experience and flavor. :nicework:

Unintentional symbolic titles ftw?

[Sockpuppet]

Posting a somewhat crappy WIP of minimum length right on the due date! Yay me!

http://tindeck.com/download/78515de5a0269bd63efa3a21dd712556/dnnk/Zelda%20Theme.mp3

[Hylian Lemon]

I appreciate the effort. That's one less email I have to send.

And I think "somewhat not crappy" would be a more appropriate descriptor. The percussion and the arrangement are great. Some of the synths could maybe use some improvement (the first thing you hear sounds kind of out of tune), but I'm not having any strong reactions against them. Protodome might be able to give suggestions or approval; he's good at chippy fusion stuff. You might post this on the project forum and see if you can get his attention. Whenever you're ready to start revising, anyway.

[PROTO·DOME]

get his attention.

Hrm? We're talking about me already? Cool. You've got my undivided attention for the next few minutes. Right. I actually really liked this, some bits could do with some improvement I think... For example, some leads don't fly too well with me, there's this squarish synth I don't dig so much; I think all the synths could do with a bit of an 'upgrade'. You won me over with :57-:59 I really loved that bit. I think the detune thing is intentional HL, some of the harmonies are dischordant to some degree- I like that though.

My vote is to let Mr Puppet see what he can do then criticize, because from seemingly out of nowhere he has made some magic.

[Sockpuppet]

Thanks guys. =) At the moment I think this is such an early WIP that it's not really worth posting it on the forums. I have a lot of ideas for it (I'm not completely sure how I'm going to get to them though...) and like you both said I need to fix the sounds. The out-of-tune stuff was all unintentional :oops:. I might leave some of it in though.

You won me over with :57-:59 I really loved that bit.

Woah, I'm actually really surprised. I was sure I stuffed that up. :lol:

I'll try and get some more done soon, although I'm having a few motivation and computer problems (the sequencer keeps crashing when I play to many channels. Like about 6.).
And unfortunately, Ganon's League of Evil is still going nowhere. =(

[PROTO·DOME]

Thanks guys. =) At the moment I think this is such an early WIP that it's not really worth posting it on the forums. I have a lot of ideas for it (I'm not completely sure how I'm going to get to them though...) and like you both said I need to fix the sounds.

I think that's why you should post on the forums. If you have trouble trying to make the idea you want then there's probably someone who can.

The out-of-tune stuff was all unintentional :oops:. I might leave some of it in though.

Tut tut, and I stuck up for you. :<

[Sockpuppet]

Okay, it's posted. :razz: I added about a minute to it but forgot about the synths though. Dammit.
http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=wip&thread=40

EDIT: I should have said this ages ago, but I have a horrible memory. Can you please take the 5 off my name?

[Hylian Lemon]

All tracks have been claimed!

I've finally reached all the people who hadn't been in contact since claiming their tracks. Most of them are sticking with the project, and no tracks have been reopened. I've decided that a final deadline of December 31 may be unrealistic at this point, and vague sort-of deadlines aren't enough motivation. Therefore, December 31 is now the WIP deadline. The final deadline should be soon after, if we have everything.

This time, if you fail to meet the deadline, your track will be reopened. No exceptions. The track will then go to whoever gets me a minute-long WIP first (which may or may not be you). I'm hoping that winter break will give everyone an opportunity to get done or close to done, so don't let me down!

Basically, this is me giving leeway and being more strict at the same time.

[Hylian Lemon]

Illidari has given up his claim on Ralph's Theme.

Nase is giving it a shot.

[Hylian Lemon]

The WIP deadline has passed. Not a bad turnout.

But Trouble on the Raft is open again. To claim it you'll need to send me a minute-long WIP.

I won't be too upset if it doesn't end up on the project. Pretty sure it wasn't in the game. But I guess it must've been on the cartridge, because it's always in soundtrack collections. Anyway, it sounds pretty Oraclesy, and I like it, so that's why it's on the list. Whatever. It's not really important, but I'm not going to turn down remixes of it.

[JH Sounds]

I feel obligated to combo-break. :razz: Anyways, its good to see the progress on this project.

[HitoriJaNai]

I'm just glad I'm still on, hehe. Oh well, time to put my nose to the grindstone and churn out an amazing song! :<

[Hylian Lemon]

Well, we've got official confirmation (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27276) on the project's unofficial status. However, ProtoDome has already infiltrated the site with his overworld mix, so we should be getting a bit of OCR exposure anyway (and of course I'll be advertising elsewhere).

In other news, Ralph's Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pTqQZTzpPc) is open again. I'm leaving it open the same way Trouble on the Raft is open: you can't claim it until you have at least a minute of WIP to show me. The final deadline is March 31 if things go as planned. Work fast.

[Dj Mokram]

Well, we've got official confirmation (http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27276) on the project's unofficial status.
However, ProtoDome has already infiltrated the site with his overworld mix, so we should be getting a bit of OCR exposure anyway (and of course I'll be advertising elsewhere)

Being un-official shouldn't prevent anyone from subbing their mixes here. On the contrary, this is encouraging that someone led the way. :wink:
Even though I know my songs probably wouldn't pass the bar, I agree with Proto's statement that many tracks from the project could make it on OCR.

[Emunator]

Just out of curiosity, Hylian Lemon, how do you expect to finish up 23 different WIPs that you have unfinished (according to your tracklist) in just over a month? That's a pretty impressive feat for anyone, I'm curious if that list is accurate or if there's something I'm missing here :-P

[Hylian Lemon]

A large amount of those WIPs are very close to being done and just need production tweaks here and there (some of them are probably done already, in fact...just unofficially). We're much farther along than the list makes it look, haha. Besides, it's more like two and a half months until the deadline. I'm not too worried about it.

I've adjusted the list (http://essenceoflime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=1) to show a more accurate representation of progress.