The Incredible Hulk

[Nohbody]

So I was seeing the previews for Iron Man (late I know) and I see the trailer for the Incredible Hulk.
I thought to myself , thats nice, theyre making a Hulk movie. But something kept nagging at me throughout Iron Man, and at the end credits (not the actual end of the movie incidentally, I missed the last part that pissed me off). Oh yeah, I said, as I left the theater, early, they had already made a hulk movie, and this one clearly wasnt a sequel. I really should have figured that out , having seen the movie before.

So why didnt I remember it?

Heres what I believe happened: my brain being traumatized by the collossal, macabre magnitude of failure that the first movie had attained, forced itself to forget my having ever seen the movie to protect me from future damage.

That said, Im glad theyre remaking it. There is no possible way for it to suck if it has Edward Norton in it.

[Bleck]

First one was good, kids got all butthurt 'cause there was as much talkin' as smashin'

[Shadowe]

the problem is that banner really WAS an emo little shit a lot of the time.

[JCvgluvr]

The comic book-like presentation in the movie was distracting and unnecessary. The only thing that saved that movie from total retardation was the "Puny human" and "Running in the desert" scenes.

[Chiwalker]

and the scene where hulk grabs onto the jet, goes out of atmosphere and magically lands in the exact spot where he left a couple miles above.

[Bleck]

the problem is that banner really WAS an emo little shit a lot of the time.

Yeah I mean how dare they portray someone with a traumatic upbringing as being shy and introverted I mean it's not like that's how he is in the comics or anything

and the scene where hulk grabs onto the jet, goes out of atmosphere and magically lands in the exact spot where he left a couple miles above.

Except I dunno give or a few thousand feet

The comic book-like presentation in the movie was distracting and unnecessary.

Yeah anything that is like comic books should definitely not be in comic book movies no sirree

[Overflow]

Technically, this new one will be the 3rd hulk movie: 1st was with Lou Feregno (or however it's spelled), 2nd the horror, and now this 3rd, which hopefully is good.

[Lotd2242]

The comic book frame effect would have been fine but it was overused.

[I-n-j-i-n]

First one was good, kids got all butthurt 'cause there was as much talkin' as smashin'

I do think it was a slightly too serious and dour for its own good though. Otherwise, I thought it was a good enough foundation. I really don't see a need for them to drop it and re-do it so soon. It's been 5 years, but it didn't feel that long. And then there's the talk of re-doing Superman because apparently some creative heads in DC weren't satisfied with how it came out. And then there's the whole conspiracy with people saying Captain America + Thor = Avengers movie. And Spiderman 4 and 5 and Hellboy 3... way too many superhero movies.

[Vivi22]

That said, Im glad theyre remaking it. There is no possible way for it to suck if it has Edward Norton in it.

Did you watch the trailer? Aside from some of the worst CG in recent memory, it featured terrible acting and dialogue from everyone who wasn't William Hurt. It already looks like the worst comic book movie since Elektra if you ask me.

[Chiwalker]

uh-oh, as soon as I click to the forums the Hulk is the character in the top right corner of ocremix! But he's not a videogame character!

[Vivi22]

uh-oh, as soon as I click to the forums the Hulk is the character in the top right corner of ocremix! But he's not a videogame character!

Except he's been in plenty of video games.

[Brycepops]

Except he's been in plenty of video games.

Yeah, like MvC ._.

[JCvgluvr]

Yeah anything that is like comic books should definitely not be in comic book movies no sirree

You know who thought like you? The director. Do you know who met much criticism for overusing the comic book-style scene splits? The director. The fans and critics mostly agree that it just doesn't work.

[Bleck]

The fans and critics mostly agree that it just doesn't work.

Actually the fans and critics were mostly critical about the pacing of the movie and the design of the character

Aside from some of the worst CG in recent memory, it featured terrible acting and dialogue from everyone who wasn't William Hurt. It already looks like the worst comic book movie since Elektra if you ask me.

ITT Vivi is an expert on CG and acting

I do think it was a slightly too serious and dour for its own good though.

Just kidding, I agree with this.


It was nowhere near as good as it should have been, but it wasn't 'the worst superhero movie ever' like many little boys seem to like to claim.

[Maco70]

There are a lot of newbs poking around here lately...

[Raziellink]

ITT Vivi is an expert on CG and acting


And you seem to be an expert of having a big mouth.

[The Author]

Is this a pantry? Because I see a lot of pots and kettles.

[Fenrir]

Is this a pantry? Because I see a lot of pots and kettles.

Zing!


Also, The Hulk was absolute garbage. Why is this shit even a topic for debate? It's not possible to construct a meaningful argument that defends this movie that doesn't revolve around calling detractors "little boys" with "butthurt".

[Nohbody]

uh-oh, as soon as I click to the forums the Hulk is the character in the top right corner of ocremix! But he's not a videogame character!
I think Ive seen him to. He was a character in some SNES Mavel fighting game

[Vivi22]

ITT Vivi is an expert on CG and acting

I don't claim to be an expert, but I don't have to be to see that the acting was pretty stiff and the CG doesn't look good. I'd swear the actors were reading from a teleprompter the performances were so bad, particularly Edward Nortons which is a shame since I respect the man as an actor. Maybe only the worst parts of the performances came through in the trailer and the rest is actually good, but I find that hard to believe. And considering friends of mine who do 3D modelling and animation agreed with me that the 3D in the trailer looked pretty bad, I'm inclined to think my feelings on it are quite valid.

[PhiJayy]

It already looks like the worst comic book movie since Elektra if you ask me.
Woah. It can't be that bad, comparing Hulk to Elektra is crzy talk.

[jayc4life]

The reason it's being remade is exactly that: The Avengers.

Plus, the fact that the first version with Eric Bana bombed out big-time, meant Marvel Studios could buy back the IP on the cheap and do it the way THEY want to do it: PROPERLY. The only reason they can't buy back Spaderman straight away is because the trilogy was so successful that Marvel Studios can't afford to buy it back yet.

It's also the reason why we haven't had a Captain America movie yet: as one of Marvel's strongest characters on their roster, they felt the only way a Cap movie would do the comics justice is if it was Marvel solely behind it.

[Maco70]

I would like to see your sources for this information.

[Shadowe]

I think Ive seen him to. He was a character in some SNES Mavel fighting game

Am I the only one that played The Hulk on the sega genesis? Somebody else must remember it, if only for it having the easiest final boss EVER.

[Blake]

Saw it last night. It was a shit ton better than the other one. The fights were awesome, and there were more of them. The final one doesn't feel anti-climactic either, and it was freakin rage/awesome/hulksmashing. Go see it. Not quite as good as Ironman overall, but the action sequences were very well done.

Oh, and PS: Continuity :D Don't wanna spoil anything. But it does make me giddy.

[XiaoXiaoNeo]

Saw it last night. It was a shit ton better than the other one. The fights were awesome, and there were more of them. The final one doesn't feel anti-climactic either, and it was freakin rage/awesome/hulksmashing. Go see it. Not quite as good as Ironman overall, but the action sequences were very well done.

Oh, and PS: Continuity :D Don't wanna spoil anything. But it does make me giddy.

Awesome news man. Yeah, I have not seen the older version that every one says sucks, but I gotta tell ya, this looks like a great movie right here. I actually was never a huge fan of the Hulk to begin with, until I purchased Hulk Ultimate Destruction for the PS2. That game kicked f-ing ass, and I was excited to see some of the moves featured in that game being used in the trailer. The steel fists is especially epic. (that's when Hulk rips apart a car and uses the two halves as boxing gloves) That's straight from the game, along with the shockwave smash and some others. Lol, even when he kicks that one military guy in the trailer. (There's a move in the game where you can punt citizens like footballs.) Abomination is the big boss from Ultimate Destruction, as well as in the movie, which, as Blake mentioned, will provide a really sweet final scene. So yeah, I'm really excited to see this and watch my gameplay memories up on the big screen. And to anyone who has not played Ultimate Destruction, rent it or something, cause it's one of the most fun game's I've personally ever played. Who doesn't want to play a free roaming game where you beat shit up? :<
By the way Blake Perdue your mixes are fantastic! Big fan.

[ILLiterate]

Saw it today, it was average maybe below average

There was just enough fighting for it to not suck. Tony Starks had the best acting in the entire film. The drama stuff bored me to the point of zzz

I was a big fan of the live action TV show and this compared to that was lame. Very let down

[The Coop]

It's not possible to construct a meaningful argument that defends this movie that doesn't revolve around calling detractors "little boys" with "butthurt".

What do Roman Catholic priests have to do with the movie?

[DrumUltimA]

Just saw it. I liked it :)

[Hum4n After All]

Yeah the movie was great.
It's all building up toward something as Randall put in in Clerks II.
Snoogans.

[Poke'G]

I got back from it about an hour ago.

The climatic battle at the end makes sense. That alone makes it worlds better than the first one.

[I-n-j-i-n]

The movie was a tad worse than Ang Lee's Hulk IMO. Which says something. Also, I'm not anticipating the whole Captain America and Avengers thing. After Fantastic Four movies and the latest X-men movie, they're digging themselves a grave for the quality of Marvel movies. That, and Iron Man was only serviceable and nothing really special IMO. They worry too much about the token formula of slapping a superhero with a female co-star who has no real role to play, then fighting an inconsequential super villain.

I think I'm mostly done with comic book movies now. I have no faith in Marvel Studios. At all.

Speaking of Edward Norton versus Eric Bana, I think Bana did a way better job because he was pretty disturbed by his Hulk transformation. Norton? He just whines like a schoolkid about it.

[Blake]

The movie was a tad worse than Ang Lee's Hulk IMO. Which says something. Also, I'm not anticipating the whole Captain America and Avengers thing. After Fantastic Four movies and the latest X-men movie, they're digging themselves a grave for the quality of Marvel movies. That, and Iron Man was only serviceable and nothing really special IMO. They worry too much about the token formula of slapping a superhero with a female co-star who has no real role to play, then fighting an inconsequential super villain.

I think I'm mostly done with comic book movies now. I have no faith in Marvel Studios. At all.

Speaking of Edward Norton versus Eric Bana, I think Bana did a way better job because he was pretty disturbed by his Hulk transformation. Norton? He just whines like a schoolkid about it.

I find your comments about Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk hard to agree with. I don't really think people cared if Norton acted disturbed. They just wanted to see stuff torn up. They both fulfilled their respective roles as good summer blockbusters. Also, Ironman and The Incredible Hulk are the first movies that Marvel is actually heading, as opposed to having their rights bought and used by other studios for movies such as X-Men and F 4.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Yeah, but other studios also did the earlier X-men, Spider-man and other Marvel movies much more justice than they would do so otherwise. I honestly couldn't care any more if Marvel has the property 100% or not. If the movies are going to be this bland and streamlined (in a very, very bad way), I think something is wrong with that picture. Apparently Marvel has messed around with their comic industry with their extreme corporate image, and I guess the same thing is happening with their movies. No surprise I guess.

As for Norton playing the Hulk, that is the very basis of the problem. If Spider-man/Peter Parker wasn't torn about his duty and superstar image, that would not be spider-man. If Hulk's alter ego is not torn up about his monster alter-ego, something isn't right there. At least Iron Man had a charismatic (if extremely predictable and cliche) Tony Stark. I just found it hard to care for Norton's Banner.

[PhiJayy]

In a nutshell. If you like a movie with alot of action, get your butt up in watch this movie. Real awesome.
Comparing Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, good acting goes to Iron Man (c'mon its Robert. Why not?), good action movie goes to The Incredible Hulk. (Abomination was sick.)

Way better than the Hulk.

[atmuh]

i heavily enjoyed this
RARE!

[Poke'G]

Speaking of Edward Norton versus Eric Bana, I think Bana did a way better job because he was pretty disturbed by his Hulk transformation. Norton? He just whines like a schoolkid about it.

Well duh, you're comparing someone whose just received the mutation with one who's coming to terms with that curse.

As for Norton playing the Hulk, that is the very basis of the problem. If Spider-man/Peter Parker wasn't torn about his duty and superstar image, that would not be spider-man. If Hulk's alter ego is not torn up about his monster alter-ego, something isn't right there. At least Iron Man had a charismatic (if extremely predictable and cliche) Tony Stark. I just found it hard to care for Norton's Banner.

Spider-Man is a nerd who is no longer a loser because he has super powers. In depth and repeated emo retrospective about his powers is not preferred. You sound like you enjoyed number 3. Spider-Man has the whole "With great power..." bit, yes, but it's not priority.

Hulk is a man who avoids society because of the danger his very angry alter-ego poses when he smashes the beJesus out of everything in sight. Again, the emo "Oh my God I'm a monster!" retrospective is present, but doesn't take priority. I paid money for the smashy, not the whiney.

These are comic book movies, they're not going to be oscar worthy material. Ang Lee tried, and that was his mistake.

[The Damned]

i heavily enjoyed this
RARE!

QFE. I was also surprised by how much I actually enjoyed it.

First Iron Man, now Hulk. At this rate, the eventual Avengers movie should be pretty damn good.

[atmuh]

First Iron Man

no .

[Bleck]

There is something wrong with you if you did not like Iron Man, I think

[FuriousFure]

No Product Placement = Awesome

the fact that Incredible had no real product placement makes it seem like a normal movie not a summer block buster.

in fact, almost all the product placement was fictional. Stark Industries. makes Spider Man seem sorta like a sell out...

[I-n-j-i-n]

Iron Man was rote. So was this. Though one can argue that this is passable because it's a summer movie. Then again, I watched Kung Fu Panda and I thought it was leagues ahead of either. It's somewhat ironic that I cared more for cartoon characters than the human beings playing live action movies.

[EdgeCrusher]

That's cause youre an idiot.

Hulk was awesome, Iron Man was awesome. Can't wait to see what they do with Thor and Captian America.

[Nohbody]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!! I just saw all but the last 20 minutes of it!!!!!! how gay is that. I had to go to work at 2 and I didnt want to get fired so i left early. It was right at the part where that asshole army guy who is not william hurt was saying Im pissed of and ready for round 3.

CRAP!!!! now I have to buy another movie ticket and calculate when to walk into the theater so that I pick up where I left off...

[Katsurugi]

I watched this movie in a midnight viewing with a friend since we watched the previous Hulk movie together. This was definitely better than Ang Lee's version. It incoporated a lot of different aspects of the character from different interpretations. As a whole, it was really a treat for Marvel fans and that's why I liked it. They poked fun at themselves at certain moments, but also had enough drama and action to keep it moving. For example, honoring the purple shorts and also the pizzeria, Stanley's, which I am going to say is a play on words for Stan Lee's. Though the script could have been better, I don't think it would have completely changed the movie. In the action scenes, I really do like the fact that they do go out of their way to add in moves from the fighting games like MvC2.

Personally, I find the Hulk to be a rather boring character when compared to other Marvel characters. So there's really not too much you can draw from when doing a feature film on him. Because of this limitation, I think that the best Hulk movie can't possibly be better than the best Ironman movie. But it can be good in its own right.

For this film, I think that if you are a true comic book fan, then you will like it, if not love it. As an outsider not familiar with anything at all, you will probably not like it or find it mediocre at best.

[Kenobio]

Personally, I find the Hulk to be a rather boring character when compared to other Marvel characters. So there's really not too much you can draw from when doing a feature film on him. Because of this limitation, I think that the best Hulk movie can't possibly be better than the best Ironman movie. But it can be good in its own right.

For this film, I think that if you are a true comic book fan, then you will like it, if not love it. As an outsider not familiar with anything at all, you will probably not like it or find it mediocre at best.

You nailed it.

[PhiJayy]

I had to go to work at 2 and I didnt want to get fired so i left early. It was right at the part where that asshole army guy who is not william hurt was saying Im pissed of and ready for round 3.

WHAT!?! The last scene was probably the best part in the movie. GO WATCH IT!!!

[JH Sounds]

Can't wait to see what they do with Thor

Thor?!

*fires up Internet search*

[The Author]

I need to find a way to convince my friends that this was not a sequel.

They seem to think that this was a direct sequel because hulk had the same origin.

I think they are on crack.

[JH Sounds]

Wasn't it originally supposed to be a direct sequel?

[FuriousFure]

I need to find a way to convince my friends that this was not a sequel.

They seem to think that this was a direct sequel because hulk had the same origin.

I think they are on crack.

they sure are. All incredible hulk stories have the same origin. main characters get exposed to science and get super powers. (just like every other marvel story line.)

not a sequel just like batman begins but this hulk happened 5 years after the last one instead of 8 years for batman begins to come out after the craptastic Batman and Robin.

also this Hulk just looks so much better than the brock lesnar looking fatty hulk. this one was also a little more emotional as the hulk and just way more believable

[The Joker]

i liked it better than Iron Man on the count that Hulk Smashed. also, Brazilian woman FTW!

[XZero]

Knowing nothing about the Hulk besides what I read on the back of the various games about him, I was interested in seeing the movie. I was pretty impressed by it, especially the CG effects.

More than that, though, I liked that they managed to keep a good (if cliched) storyline throughout. The story made sense, was somewhat dramatic, and did a good job of tying the action sequences together. It was better at this than a lot of other movies of a similar nature. In Transformers, for instance, any story sequences felt like a high-quality video taking forever to buffer; here, the story was more important to the plot. Of course, several people cheered at "Hulk Smash!" so I guess the plot ultimately wasn't that important, but I digress.

In sum, I liked the movie. It wasn't anything spectacular, it probably won't win any awards (except maybe for special effects), and the story, while interesting and compelling at parts, was fairly generic overall. Despite this, it's a fun movie to watch, and I'm glad for having seen it.

[The Damned]

What the fuck? Someone keeps removing my fucking posts for no reason at all!

To repeat what I had posted before:
I was pretty impressed by it, especially the CG effects.
There were a few scenes where they fucked up. The scene where the Hulk is carrying what's-her-face down a creek, watch his feet. For a guy that's over twelve feet tall and weights over a ton, he's pretty light on his feet, not splashing the water like that.

Little details like that stand out for some reason.

[cfG-21]

Awesome news man. Yeah, I have not seen the older version that every one says sucks, but I gotta tell ya, this looks like a great movie right here. I actually was never a huge fan of the Hulk to begin with, until I purchased Hulk Ultimate Destruction for the PS2. That game kicked f-ing ass, and I was excited to see some of the moves featured in that game being used in the trailer. The steel fists is especially epic. (that's when Hulk rips apart a car and uses the two halves as boxing gloves) That's straight from the game, along with the shockwave smash and some others. Lol, even when he kicks that one military guy in the trailer. (There's a move in the game where you can punt citizens like footballs.) Abomination is the big boss from Ultimate Destruction, as well as in the movie, which, as Blake mentioned, will provide a really sweet final scene. So yeah, I'm really excited to see this and watch my gameplay memories up on the big screen. And to anyone who has not played Ultimate Destruction, rent it or something, cause it's one of the most fun game's I've personally ever played. Who doesn't want to play a free roaming game where you beat shit up? :<
By the way Blake Perdue your mixes are fantastic! Big fan.

hmmm i liked both but i do think this one was better.

[FuriousFure]

What the fuck? Someone keeps removing my fucking posts for no reason at all!

To repeat what I had posted before:

There were a few scenes where they fucked up. The scene where the Hulk is carrying what's-her-face down a creek, watch his feet. For a guy that's over twelve feet tall and weights over a ton, he's pretty light on his feet, not splashing the water like that.

Little details like that stand out for some reason.

You know, thats so true. I remember watching the "Making of" of Jurassic Park, they were explaining the T-rex scene. and one of the little details they put in with CGI afterwards was the splashing of puddles. and it completely tied the whole scene together.
they showed a before and after comparison. and after seeing it with the puddle splash, it felt like something was missing when watching the no splash clip. small details are key with CGI.

but in general, i think that props and animatronics combined with CGI and stop-motion animation give the most believable experiences.