Beyond Good and Evil 2

[atmuh]

people seem to like the first one i should play it sometime anyways here is the teaser for numba 2

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19058

[sgx]

Ok that clip wasn't that interesting but, SHIT YES! Happy days! BGaE 2!

[anosou]

I'd like this game now please. Regardless of the end result. Thank you.

[eternal Zero]

I, too, have to finish the first one, but I do have it on my desktop at home so it'll get played through eventually.

[Penfold]

I, too, have to finish the first one, but I do have it on my desktop at home so it'll get played through eventually.

Me too, haha...if it is official that BG&E2 is coming out, I'll be picking up the original one again sooner than later. The only reason I stopped playing was because of new games that came out when I was going through it last year, but I really enjoyed what I've played so far.

[Red Shadow]

I was wondering whether or not this was ever going to happen.

Time to replay the first one.

[Jam Stunna]

I might as well trade in my Wii today, because I must have this game. Whatever system it's on, I will buy it.

[Toadofsky]

people seem to like the first one i should play it sometime anyways here is the teaser for numba 2


Beyond Good and Evil to me is absolutely one of the best games I ever played in my opinion. When you find a copy, just buy it. I'm going through it my third time (At least I think it's my third.)

[Jam Stunna]

I was reading about the trailer on IGN, and I saw this:

Introduced by the company's CEO Yves Guillemot at today's Ubidays 2008 event in Paris, the untitled game was described as Ancel's latest project. What was stunning about the gorgeous trailer was that it utilized the game's impressive in-game engine.

That's amazing, but it got me thinking. It's a goddamn shame that the bold line completely rules out a Wii release. Fuck you Nintendo. /end rant

[Toadofsky]

I was reading about the trailer on IGN, and I saw this:
That's amazing, but it got me thinking. It's a goddamn shame that the bold line completely rules out a Wii release. Fuck you Nintendo. /end rant

I'm not ruling out that it could not be on Wii. Though the graphics wouldn't look that detailed. But call that blind hope.

At least my roomate has a 360....

I certainly hope that they keep the same voice actors. Yeah, sounds picky I know.

[Arcubalis]

Even better, composer Christophe Harel just confirmed to Music4Games via email that he is on board for the sequel:

http://www.music4games.net/News_Display.aspx?id=933

I was introduced to the music in this game by Video Games Live, and it was really one of the sleeper hits of the evening. Just like the game I suppose!

[Red Shadow]

Jam you do know that the first game was also on the PC, right?

Even if it ain't on the wii you likely wont need a new system. Hell, pirate it in silent protest if thats how it turns out.

[Penfold]

I'm not ruling out that it could not be on Wii. Though the graphics wouldn't look that detailed. But call that blind hope.

At least my roomate has a 360....

I certainly hope that they keep the same voice actors. Yeah, sounds picky I know.

I think I'd prefer it on Wii, assuming the controls aren't half-assed, but if it doesn't end up on it I'd be fine with it on the 360. Wonder if we'll be getting much more info before E3...

[Jam Stunna]

Jam you do know that the first game was also on the PC, right?

Even if it ain't on the wii you likely wont need a new system. Hell, pirate it in silent protest if thats how it turns out.

Yeah, you're right. I suppose I'm just so consistently disappointed by the Wii that it clouds my judgment sometimes.

[atmuh]

yes the wii is terrible we all know that already but if you sell you wii we cant play smash bros

[Jam Stunna]

yes the wii is terrible we all know that already but if you sell you wii we cant play smash bros

Will my torment never end?

[atmuh]

ha no

[Antipode]

This is amazing news. I sincerely hope they don't split the dev team and make some shitty alternate wii version. This just might be enough to push me over the edge and buy a 360.

[Jam Stunna]

This is amazing news. I sincerely hope they don't split the dev team and make some shitty alternate wii version. This just might be enough to push me over the edge and buy a 360.

This just kicked my ass and threw me over the edge.

[atmuh]

dont worry jam the game wont be out for another five years and buy then you will can get a 360 because itll be like five dollars or smth

[PlastikBag]

All this great shit being announced for PS3 and Xbox 360... Nothing for the Wii. :(

Oh well, I'm really looking forward to this. I just got a great job, so I should be able to afford a PS3 within a couple months.

[Zombie]

Never played the original.:? I feel out of it.

[AarowSwift]

I was reading about the trailer on IGN, and I saw this:



That's amazing, but it got me thinking. It's a goddamn shame that the bold line completely rules out a Wii release. Fuck you Nintendo. /end rant


How about a Fuck you Ubi for going with teh realism. I liked the stylized approach which can look amazing on any system. I'm a little afraid to see what Jade looks like now. Too realistic and she's going to fall into the Uncanny Valley when she animates I guarantee. It's not hard to make something look true to life in a still, but the moment it moves we always have the "moving mannequin" revulsion factor. Still that's just a guess based on the "so real its ugly" Uncle Peyje (sp?). Color me unimpressed with the choice of art direction, though not the art itself (so far).

I'm very happy to see the game being made and not-so-happy it's failing to hit the system I actually own. Well, I had always figured I'd pick up a PS3 eventually for the handful of exclusives I knew it would have that I enjoy. Has that thing fallen into the sanity price range yet (aka, around $300)?

In an aside, does anyone else feel like some Xbox360 and PS3 developers are engaged in a graphics pissing contest without really paying any attention to actual artistic merit?

[atmuh]

In an aside, does anyone else feel like some Xbox360 and PS3 developers are engaged in a graphics pissing contest without really paying any attention to actual artistic merit?

im pretty sure all the developers that matter dont do that
plus pretty graphics are a plus and once again the wii is completely awful for everything but smash bros and i am GLAD that this isnt coming out on the wii so there wont be crappier graphics in the 360 version because it cant be some upgraded version of the wii edition

[Brushfire]

I hate to be a downer but this game really doesn't matter seeing as no one is gonna play it anyway. History will repeat itself.

Unless Master Chief is a guest character.

The first one was great though.

[AarowSwift]

im pretty sure all the developers that matter dont do that
plus pretty graphics are a plus and once again the wii is completely awful for everything but smash bros and i am GLAD that this isnt coming out on the wii so there wont be crappier graphics in the 360 version because it cant be some upgraded version of the wii edition

That was almost coherent. You are aware that graphics don't make something pretty right? It's the art design that makes something pretty and the graphics are the tool that bring the art design to fruition? That graphics without art design can make something both technically impressive and butt ugly? Take Bugs Bunny. Great looking character. Would he look better slapped with a fur shader just because fur shaders are graphical? Or would Fuzzy Bugs look just plain wrong? How about a hairy Mickey Mouse? What's the point of making cartoons if "real" is inherently better? Is it?

Truth, the Wii does not have the processing power to put out graphics on par with the Xbox360 and the PS3. But to say that means the Wii can't have good looking games (other than your strangely selective example) is purified BS. Was Okami ugly because it was on weaker system? What about Vagrant Story? Rayman 2? Super Mario World? A video game console is like an art medium. Some systems are like oil paints, some are like water colors. You can make fantastic looking art in any of these mediums, so long as you understand how to work within the medium. If you treat oil paints like water colors you'll have a lousy result. If you have a strong artistic vision, you can make it work in any medium so long as you work with that medium instead of against it. The only thing stopping developers from making drop dead gorgeous games on the Wii is they simply aren't trying, and there's no excuse for that.

Ubi could have gone with the style of the first BG&E. It would have looked incredible and been perfectly doable on all three consoles. They didn't choose to go that route and that is unfortunate.

[atmuh]

why dont you wait for a LITTLE BIT MORE footage before you even dismiss this as being in a more realistic environment

and yes if the dev team is not an idiot prettier graphics makes prettier game

[AarowSwift]

why dont you wait for a LITTLE BIT MORE footage before you even dismiss this as being in a more realistic environment

and yes if the dev team is not an idiot prettier graphics makes prettier game

I am waiting for more footage and made it clear in my first post that I wasn't passing judgment on more than just the trailer shown so far. However, certain assumptions CAN BE MADE based on Peyje and the environments shown, unless the art style is grossly inconsistent.

[Aninymouse]

This is one of those Gamecube games I wanted to buy reeeeeeeally badly back in the day but never did. Wonder if I could track down a copy...?

Same boat as Eternal Darkness, really. Bought it & Soulcalibur II at a hobby shop for $5 each, played E.D. for a few days, and then someone borrowed it ETERNALLY HAR HAR...

[Nekofrog]

Look, when you bought a Wii, you knew what you were getting; a GameCube 1.5 with a new controller. You simply cannot complain when a new good-looking game doesn't bow down to the standards of an almost-last generation hardware machine just because it dares to look pretty.

Just as PS3 owners can't complain at 3-4 year dev cycles for games because that was made public knowledge before the damn system even came out.

Deal with it.

[PlastikBag]

I'm not complaining that this isn't coming out for the Wii. I'm complaining that there's close to nothing being announced for the damn thing.

I hate to be a downer but this game really doesn't matter seeing as no one is gonna play it anyway. History will repeat itself.

What the hell is this supposed to mean? BG&E sold poorly, and they're making a sequel. "This doesn't matter"? Us who enjoyed the game get to enjoy a sequel. I don't see how this doesn't matter.

[Thalzon]

God I want this so, so bad. Doesn't appear to take place on Hillys this time, though to be fair you didn't explore a huge chunk of the world in the first game. Looks like this time around you'll have an old, beat-up car instead of an old, beat-up hovercraft.

Pey'j pretty much looks the same as before, except he's got a higher poly count and higher-res textures than before (and don't be fooled; this is definitely CGI). In fact, the only thing really different about him is that he's not wearing his jacket, which is normal considering they're stuck in a desert seemingly waiting for a tow truck. Oh, and the bandage, but anyone who beat the first game probably knows why he's wearing that.

Since we haven't seen actual gameplay footage, I wouldn't rule out this not appearing on Wii just yet, but yeah, it's probably likely to just be on PS3 and 360. I plan to get a 360 after summer ends anyway.

[UnforgivingEdges]

All this great shit being announced for PS3 and Xbox 360... Nothing for the Wii. :(

Oh well, I'm really looking forward to this. I just got a great job, so I should be able to afford a PS3 within a couple months.

All the cool kids do the Xbox thing, dood :-P

Also, is it possible to be excited about awesome games anymore on the internet without people bitching about Wii or not-Wii within 10 minutes? Jesus fuck, I'm sick of reading it everywhere.

BG&E2 just got officially announced, you sods. BG&E2, a sequel to a game that bombed harder than Pearl Harbor. This defies all business and logic sense. But the world will see it. Can we ignore the Wii for a bit and celebrate in unity?

[MisterBiggler]

Yessir. Very good news. Time to get my copy of BG&E 1 back from a friend.

[Blake]

I hate to be a downer but this game really doesn't matter seeing as no one is gonna play it anyway. History will repeat itself.

Unless Master Chief is a guest character.

The first one was great though.

What the hell are you talking about...? What do you mean by "doesn't matter"? And for no one playing it- the people who've been waiting for a sequel will be playing it.

[DoctorDevice]

I saw the trailer, and I felt a great pang of regret. because I suddenly wanted very hard to play through BG&E, but could not, as some asshat stole my game collection. ah well, I can only hope I have everything back by the time BG&E2 comes out.

[Sinewav]

BG&E2, a sequel to a game that bombed harder than Pearl Harbor.

Are you talking about the movie or the actual event?

[atmuh]

well looks like the jokes over

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10709&Itemid=2

and once again todays games suck more and more balls

[Jam Stunna]

well looks like the jokes over

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10709&Itemid=2

and once again todays games suck more and more balls

This is the only time in life I've considered forming an internet petition.

[sgx]

I could totally go for some K-Bups right now.

[Nekofrog]

I'm not complaining that this isn't coming out for the Wii. I'm complaining that there's close to nothing being announced for the damn thing.



Wrong thread for that.

[Monobrow]

BGaE2...

Yes yes yes yes yes yes

[Thalzon]

This is the only time in life I've considered forming an internet petition.

Why? The original game wasn't hard, either. Hell, it might just mean they include a save-anywhere feature.

[UnforgivingEdges]

I could totally go for some K-Bups right now.

"A box of K-Bups costs...."

[The Joker]

Dude, I'm so excited about this. Between this & the non official announcement of The Darkness sequel, 2 of my favorite games are getting another chapter! Which is awesome! yay!

[Red Shadow]

"A box of K-Bups costs...."
"A box- A box- A box- A POD repair unit costs..."

[I-n-j-i-n]

I'm worried at how the executive aims to sell the game to a more 'mainstream' gaming crowd instead of the 'hardcore'.

[Jam Stunna]

I'm worried at how the executive aims to sell the game to a more 'mainstream' gaming crowd instead of the 'hardcore'.

Hopefully he means nothing more than a massive, massive marketing campaign.

[Triad Orion]

Hopefully he means nothing more than a massive, massive marketing campaign.

Yeah, like the one they DIDN'T give the original.

[JCvgluvr]

Am I the only one expecting the events of Nights 2 to repeat themselves?

1) Large expectations from the die-hard fans
2) Game is released
3) Game fails to meet impossibly high expectations
4) Game bombs more than the first game did
5) Fans forsake 2nd game and go on dry-humping first game as they did before

BTW, I haven't played either Nights nor BG&E, so this is just an outsiders point of view.

[Jam Stunna]

Am I the only one expecting the events of Nights 2 to repeat themselves?

1) Large expectations from the die-hard fans
2) Game is released
3) Game fails to meet impossibly high expectations
4) Game bombs more than the first game did
5) Fans forsake 2nd game and go on dry-humping first game as they did before

BTW, I haven't played either Nights nor BG&E, so this is just an outsiders point of view.

This could happen, but at least to me, it became extraordinarily clear that Nights 2 was going to be a failure well before it was released. I never played the first one, so I don't have any expectations to cloud my judgment. It just looked like standard Sega of the last few years: underdeveloped, under-tested and under-budgeted.

If the trailer of BG&E 2 is any indication, that game will not suffer from the same problems.

[Triad Orion]

Am I the only one expecting the events of Nights 2 to repeat themselves?

1) Large expectations from the die-hard fans
2) Game is released
3) Game fails to meet impossibly high expectations
4) Game bombs more than the first game did
5) Fans forsake 2nd game and go on dry-humping first game as they did before

BTW, I haven't played either Nights nor BG&E, so this is just an outsiders point of view.

I'd like to think that this is going to be wrong. Most fans of BG&E I know aren't nearly as adamant about it as the Nights fans were. Yes, many BG&E fans I know, myself included will say the original was a great game worthy of note, but I've run into a much more subdued crowd about it. I can't speak for the whole of the internets (who can?), but in my experience there aren't a lot of rabid fanboys of the game, just fans. And definitely not the type to dry-hump the game. XD

Of course, to be fair, you're correct. There are going to be high expectations, but I don't think any of us are expecting a revolution in design. A lot of BG&E fans would probably be happy with some refinement to a "more of the same" formula. And considering Ubisoft isn't Sonic Team (a bunch of has-beens, really), they probably will put attention to this game just to get the brand out there more.

Right now, I'm generally optimistic about this game. Details are scarce, but I'm looking forward to it.