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GrayLightning
01-10-2004, 01:42 AM
I dislike to be curt like this, however the situation has not improved as much as we all would like. People are still asking such simple and redundant questions like "What are soundfonts?" or "Where can I download soundfonts?". This would not be so bad, except there are several sticky and current threads that address these issues. Stop being lazy and taking advantage of the regulars. This section is aimed to help everyone of all levels. We understand beginners have a lot of questions and we all want to help each other as much as possible, but we aren't here to cater to your every whim *especially when it has been asked a million times this week*.

Please use the forum's Search (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/search.php) function *then select ReMixing 101 in the search options* before asking. Thanks.

Edit: The other solution which will be becoming more frequent is the outright deletion of such posts. Consider this a word of warning for the intended audience. ^^

saxman
01-10-2004, 02:05 AM
This is a good idea -- but there will still be many people who will miss this thread.... some because they're idiots.... some because they're human. With a ton of stickies bunched together, it's often 'easier' for someone to miss one of these 'important' threads. Therefore, they skip this because they are less apparent to this even though their eyes may pick it up and therefore will continue to ask these questions.

What's my point? Well, you're not an idiot I know! Surely you know that this thread can help, but is just as likely be ignored my new members.

GrayLightning
01-10-2004, 02:16 AM
If one person is saved, then that might be enough. ^_^ More than that I hope. The other solution which will be becoming more frequent is the outright deletion of such posts. Consider this a word of warning for the intended audience. ^^

Bahamut
01-10-2004, 02:33 AM
Maybe you should change the title "Beginners and People Please Read This Before Posting"...I'm sure a lot of people would dismiss the newbie part.

KaelitioN
01-10-2004, 02:44 AM
Thanks for the announcement GL. Hopefully , the newer members won't bypass this thread as they do the stickies. I know exactly what has prompted you to do this , and I agree. Although these kinds of questions don't bother me personally , it probably will upset other members of the forum , I'm sure.




I don't think it's too harmful for someone who's new to miss the thread. They have to adapt first.

I know how you feel , which is why I try to answer these questions as politely as possible , but at some point , some decisive action is necessary or else the problem will remain unsolved. When I first came to the site , I did not once post a "Where can I find this sample or that soundfont" threads. Why? Simple. Because I enjoy finding things myself , and resort to asking when all else fails. Or if I need more professional opinions or suggestions. And one of the first things I did when I came to the site was read the FAQ . So I was already well aware of the fact that sample/soundfont/etc. request threads were a common redundancy in these forums. Basically , I did my homework . It's just too bad that not everyone is like me , however.

The other solution which will be becoming more frequent is the outright deletion of such posts.
If you are refering to new members posting requests for things that are already abundantly present in the forum as is , then fine. It could work in one sense.It will make the forums cleaner , I guess. The only thing that might be of a disadvantage with this solution would be the same new members posting threads like:

"Where did my post go?"
"How come my topic got deleted?"

Some might get the point . Others might get confused , maybe even believe that the deletion of their posts/threads is just a bug in the php coding or something. Unless you decide to send every newb who gets their post deleted a private message relating to the subject, they might not know how to interpret it (unless they read this announcement , of course). That will get the point across but do you really want to send a messge to e v e r y single person who gets a post deleted? I doubt it. It's very time-consuming for something that shouldn't even be necessary in the first place, but I guess it's a good solution.
You're doing a fine job of moderating the forums , I find. But I still think that more mods can help (it seems you already have one hell of a workload), or at least if all the regulars could help out to some extent (I know alot of them have been already).I've made some mistakes , that's for sure , but I still try to keep my respects for these forums in general. I hope everyone else who joins can , as well.
That's my opinion anyways.

Infinite HP
01-10-2004, 03:04 AM
Hey, where did my post go? no...seriously though, I agree. I will admit I'm fairly new at this myself (as you can no doubt tell by my "post count") and yet I agree whole-heartedly with GL. I, myself, am guilty of this (redundant posting) and I apologize because as GL put it himself, I was lazy. But I have gotten better at this by checking first before I post. I am just glad he said it first and made it a topic. He has said what I'm sure a lot of you/us have been thinking (and trying to tell others). Thank you!

GrayLightning
01-10-2004, 03:43 AM
Bahamut thanks for the suggestion.

Kael there are other moderators. I know at least Digital Coma does quite a lot here too. ^_^

Homo Pocket
05-31-2004, 07:54 AM
What are Soundfonts and where can I download them??? ;)

ThrashandBurn
06-11-2004, 07:47 AM
I have to agree with the idea of this forum. I've looked around and cannot find how to submit a mix. I want to soon but I dont' know how to submit it as a work in progress.

nostalgic gen
06-12-2004, 12:30 AM
There's a work in process forum. Just link your tune to a thread in there and ask for feedback.

D-Block
08-03-2004, 09:04 PM
Sorry to be such a newb, but I'm having trouble finding this Remixing 101 page

DarkeSword
08-03-2004, 09:55 PM
Sorry to be such a newb, but I'm having trouble finding this Remixing 101 page

You're posting in it. ^_^

The 'Remixing' forum used to be called Remixing 101.

GrayLightning
09-30-2004, 06:55 PM
well im sure i have a newb question its more of just a minor problem i think. i have a fruitland (FL) synth. its not the full version.I cant seem to import midi files.I mean i can import them but they dont play.Ive tried everything to get them to work.If anyone can possibily help me with this problem ill take on tons of request.If anyone can help just private message me so i get it faster.thanks
-kingchris-

There's a FL thread for these questions. :? I'll delete this and your post in a day or two.

Follow the link. http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7588

Dreth
11-19-2004, 04:33 PM
Okay I'd like to be one of those n00bs that is not completely idiotic so here's a shot at it. I just got Cubase SX & Cakewalk 9, now they both LOOK like fine programs,there's only one problem. I can't hear a thing, I checked the output MIDI thingies but none of them work, I have three:

MPU-401
Microsoft MIDI Mapper (Emulated)
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Syth (Emulated)

I have no idea what they mean but in the output menu, those 3 were the only ones to choose from and none seem to do the trick. I tried searching in other forums but all I found was REALLY stupid questions, whose answers were probably "turn on ur spekerz".

I got these programs because I read the Tutorial by McVafee or something like that (sorry I can't be bothered to look it up right now).

Alcino
12-31-2004, 07:50 AM
You probably got an answer since then, but anyway.

As far as Cakewalk goes, try going to Options/Audio and then, in the Advanced panel, choose Driver Mode: MME. Afterwards, you can properly select your MIDI output, I think.

Shoutingsteve
03-19-2005, 05:07 PM
If one person is saved, then that might be enough. ^_^ More than that I hope. The other solution which will be becoming more frequent is the outright deletion of such posts. Consider this a word of warning for the intended audience. ^^

I am "saved".

PyroBuddha
03-20-2005, 07:37 PM
Ok im new to this. Ive been wondering exactly how to remix things and stuff. Can i do this with a saxophone? How much do synthesizers cost if i need one? Ok my main question is How much it gonna cost.

vipercommander
03-24-2005, 04:01 PM
Ok im new to this. Ive been wondering exactly how to remix things and stuff. Can i do this with a saxophone? How much do synthesizers cost if i need one? Ok my main question is How much it gonna costDon't know but having the same some what problem here too cause I want to remix some songs from the homeworld game that I have and I have the CD that has the songs that I want to remix but I just the tools so can some one help me out?

FoxtrotTango
07-25-2005, 07:22 PM
How do you get those dope pictures to appear in the post? Also, what program should a money-strapped remixer wannabe get so that he can start learning? I've always wanted to do a remix of the melee sequence music in Ultima VI.

muzikal-phoenix
10-06-2005, 02:39 PM
not to be such a n00b...

but im wondering which of these are better:
Cakewalk/Cubase/FL?

OverCoat
10-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Cakewalk/Cubase/FL?

Any of the three can basically do everything. Try out some demos and see what's better for you. In my opinion, FL Studio is a bit more newbie-friendly than Sonar [cakewalk] or Cubase, but you may end up liking any of the three :)

good poltergeist
12-15-2005, 01:17 AM
just curious, is there any software out there, that is 1.) free and 2.) uses musical score and 3.) newbie friendly?

I downloaded the demo for fruity loops, but it just confuses me...(after this post, I'm probably off to the FL thread...) I was just curious if I should look in another direction for sequencing and editing musical scores.

Thankies

realpolitik
12-15-2005, 01:19 AM
just curious, is there any software out there, that is 1.) free and 2.) uses musical score and 3.) newbie friendly?

I downloaded the demo for fruity loops, but it just confuses me...(after this post, I'm probably off to the FL thread...) I was just curious if I should look in another direction for sequencing and editing musical scores.

Thankies

FL is about as n00b friendly as you get, sorry? :lol:

good poltergeist
12-15-2005, 01:31 AM
]just curious, is there any software out there, that is 1.) free and 2.) uses musical score and 3.) newbie friendly?

I downloaded the demo for fruity loops, but it just confuses me...(after this post, I'm probably off to the FL thread...) I was just curious if I should look in another direction for sequencing and editing musical scores.

Thankies

FL is about as n00b friendly as you get, sorry? :lol:

but uses no musical score...thanks for generally not answering my question, and being an ass. I really appreciate it.

why does it seem that music mixing software tends to have very little to do with actual music notation?

realpolitik
12-15-2005, 01:35 AM
]just curious, is there any software out there, that is 1.) free and 2.) uses musical score and 3.) newbie friendly?

I downloaded the demo for fruity loops, but it just confuses me...(after this post, I'm probably off to the FL thread...) I was just curious if I should look in another direction for sequencing and editing musical scores.

Thankies

FL is about as n00b friendly as you get, sorry? :lol:

but uses no musical score...thanks for generally not answering my question, and being an ass. I really appreciate it.

why does it seem that music mixing software tends to have very little to do with actual music notation?

it has a piano roll, which should be close enough to actual score notation for your whiney little tastes. BITCH

jk

Seriously, FL has the easiest curve of any mixing program I've ever used. For a beginner, I highly recommend it.

good poltergeist
12-15-2005, 01:43 AM
it has a piano roll, which should be close enough to actual score notation for your whiney little tastes. BITCH

jk

Seriously, FL has the easiest curve of any mixing program I've ever used. For a beginner, I highly recommend it.

See, that was a nice answer. I really do appreciate it. Thanks. However, the Piano Roll is beyond me. Apparently I suck. Anyway, methinks I'm just going to continue composing in Sibelius...

Splunkle
12-15-2005, 12:07 PM
Piano roll = Ace, once you get to know it. It makes sense, what with the length of the note being how long it plays for, and having the testing piano on the left so you can see what each note sounds like, and then note properties on the bottom. It just makes sense. Once you learn how to use it, you shall see how it gives you so much power when composing on the computer. One problem is that you can't see what all your channels are doing at once, which could suck if you werre doing full on orchestra stuff... but if you are FL may not be the best choice for you.

realpolitik
12-16-2005, 01:47 AM
Piano roll = Ace, once you get to know it. It makes sense, what with the length of the note being how long it plays for, and having the testing piano on the left so you can see what each note sounds like, and then note properties on the bottom. It just makes sense. Once you learn how to use it, you shall see how it gives you so much power when composing on the computer. One problem is that you can't see what all your channels are doing at once, which could suck if you werre doing full on orchestra stuff... but if you are FL may not be the best choice for you.

Or better yet, a soundcard with low latency and MIDI keyboard!

OH SNAP!

lol, piano roll's a bit overrated.

analoq
12-16-2005, 02:04 AM
why does it seem that music mixing software tends to have very little to do with actual music notation?
that kind of thinking bothers me, so i will answer you.

terms:
humans = musicians
machines = synthesizers, samplers, and other digital instruments

lesson:
- music notation is made for humans.
- machines do not understand notation. if you're writing music for machines, it needs to be in a protocol they understand: MIDI.
- representations like piano rolls and event editors translate to MIDI easily.
- music notation does not translate to MIDI easily, the notation has to be intepreted in a number of ways.


any questions?

zircon
12-16-2005, 02:14 AM
]Piano roll = Ace, once you get to know it. It makes sense, what with the length of the note being how long it plays for, and having the testing piano on the left so you can see what each note sounds like, and then note properties on the bottom. It just makes sense. Once you learn how to use it, you shall see how it gives you so much power when composing on the computer. One problem is that you can't see what all your channels are doing at once, which could suck if you werre doing full on orchestra stuff... but if you are FL may not be the best choice for you.

Or better yet, a soundcard with low latency and MIDI keyboard!

OH SNAP!

lol, piano roll's a bit overrated.

It's not overrated at all. No one's saying it's THE BEST; if they are, they're dumb. It's one method of many to input notes, but it's not a bad one in the least.

realpolitik
12-17-2005, 02:24 AM
trust me, when you've been to a handful of forums where you have multiple posting stuff like "fruityloops piano roll is bloody awesome for producing some phat ch00ns," especially when (hopefully) there are better alternatives, it annoys me greatly. Maybe it's just the British slang online. I don't even know.

But recording MIDI beats manual sequencing anyday, assuming that you have low latency.

zircon
12-17-2005, 02:52 AM
I prefer sequencing by mouse... anyday. I can't work any other way.

Neotails8762
05-27-2006, 12:18 PM
I got a program off a friend of mine. It;s Virtual DJ. Is tha ta good choice for mixing?
Also, I need the Install file, since he can't find it :?

Nineko
05-27-2006, 01:55 PM
aren't you copying a copyrighted software and/or asking us to find you the installation file, are you? (http://www.virtualdj.com/)

Neotails8762
05-27-2006, 02:05 PM
But is the file free?
I'm a right cheapskate when it comes to the Internet.

Souliarc
05-27-2006, 02:14 PM
But is the file free?

Ummm...

aren't you copying a copyrighted software and/or asking us to find you the installation file, are you? (http://www.virtualdj.com/)

Did you even check the link.

Nineko
05-27-2006, 02:31 PM
aren't you copying a copyrighted software and/or asking us to find you the installation file, are you? (http://www.virtualdj.com/)

Did you even check the link.yes I did.
"The demo will work for only 20 days."

Souliarc
05-27-2006, 02:39 PM
aren't you copying a copyrighted software and/or asking us to find you the installation file, are you? (http://www.virtualdj.com/)

Did you even check the link.yes I did.
"The demo will work for only 20 days."

"Did you even check the link." was mentioned for Neon00b lol

Neotails8762
05-27-2006, 03:02 PM
I have now. And what Nineko said, it's only a trial.
Meh. I#ll get the trial for now.

OverCoat
06-22-2006, 02:59 AM
Please stop putting "acquired" or "procured" et al in quotes.

It's not witty anymore. It makes most of us not want to help you anyway.

LPP
06-25-2006, 04:00 AM
Hullo! Perfect newbzorz here! Don't eat me!

I was wondering if anyone on these forums has heard of or tried Melody Assistant and Gold Sound Base (http://www.myriad-online.com/), and if they could tell me how successful they have found it to be for making remixes. I have been using it for over a year now to write original music, but I am not sure if this site would consider it final-production-quality material for submissions. My budget demands that that and live recordings of my various woodwind instruments are my only options for mixing... opinions?

Chice Jigle
07-14-2006, 02:40 AM
I'm such a newb. I want to ask, what is a good program for doing remixes? I have finale 2006, but it just don't seem to work well with me...