VST, DirectX instruments and effects thread

[DM Lee]

I can't find a decent compressor to use on my mixes. I have found a couple (not many at all) at kvr-vst, but wasnt satisfied. If someone could link em to one specifically or a site with some good compressor/limiter/gating effects compatible with fruityloops, it would help greatly.

Generally I want to become more profficient in increasing the sonic range of my music and fill up the dead areas of my music for some of my future mixes where I plan on having massive synth/instrument mixes with upwards of ten to twenty sounds going at one time without destroying any sound levels.

Thanx a lot. I may turn this into a "VST Effect Request Thread" but only if I hear its an ok idea, otherwise no big deal.

[skulkrusha]

http://www.pspaudioware.com/

They've got just that. While it's not free, I've heard good things about it.

This one's free, although I've never tried it, so I can't guarantee the quality:

http://www.redshiftmedia.com/temp/sc_limiter.zip

[nostalgic gen]

the mda vst plugin bundle is free and very respectable. That includes a multiband compressor. You can find that on google or at kvr.

[Omega Xi]

Not entierly on-topic I know but I think a VST request thread would be a great idea....

Anyone know where I can find a decent reverb apart from Plancarware Empire?

[Rellik]

You were were wrong! It's called Ambience, and can be found here (http://www.smartelectronix.com/~magnus/)

Hey look! There's a multi-band compressor on that page as well.

[skulkrusha]

Anyone know of any good VST/DX distortion units? I've got Buzzroom's, and they've given me good results, but I'd like something more.

[DM Lee]

You were were wrong! It's called Ambience, and can be found here (http://www.smartelectronix.com/~magnus/)

Hey look! There's a multi-band compressor on that page as well.

Thanx a lot, I downloaded it and will be testing it tonight.

I'm not familiar with multi band compression but I understand basic compression and obviously this will be a lot more flexible with compressing stuff.

I changed this to the effects request thread since everyones already asking for the stuff anyways.

I will try to help as well, since I started the thread. (I have been downloading a number of effects vst's lately, so I will be able to test them myself and be able to suggest them to others.)

[Compyfox]

Two links you'll ever need to know, and they're already in the "Compiled Links Guitde" thread (well... good if you can read, eh?!)

www.kvr-vst.com
www.databaseaudio.co.uk

If you can't find your VST/DX/AU/RTAS Plugin there, you won't find it anywhere. And if you're just too lazy to look and to test stuff (sorry DMLee, but KVR has a sticky with "What is the best for my mastering needs" in the effects section of their board!), then noone can help you either. That's the best places for your needs.

So... no stickyfication is needed!
(I'm so sick and tired of Spoon-Feeding - well... that just my humble opinion.)

[skulkrusha]

www.kvr-vst.com
www.databaseaudio.co.uk

And you think those are the only places on the net VSTs are available?

I've seen lots of VSTs mentioned on KVR's forums that aren't listed on the main site. The free compressor I mentioned isn't listed on either site you gave, for instance, and I have many more you won't find by searching those sites. I think, therefor, this thread is perfectly reasonable.

[klm09]

On another note, the mda 3 band compressor is quite good IMO. I've only really used it with drums, but it can, with little effort, get your beat to sound a lot more lively.

[nostalgic gen]

For some reason I thought you were after a multiband compressor. My bad.

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-compressor.php

I haven't gotten round to even installing this yet but I've heard positive things about it. You might want to give it a try if you haven't already. The rest of their free stuff is found below:

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php

[Snyderman]

For some reason, none of the VSTs work for me that were mentioned in this thread. I stuck them in my VST folder of FruityLoops, but they all seemed to fail to load.

[DM Lee]

have you used vst's before? (i mean have you ever had to go through the "add one/more... routine to get the vst to show up?)

If this is your first time doing so, then go to the fx area and go to add one like usual and if you dont see the ones you recently downloaded got o the top of the pop up menu where it says more, and then do fast scan or scan & verify or whatever they say.

Hope this is some help

[Snyderman]

Nah that's not the issue. I've used VSTs before (though not extensively). It ends up giving me an error message and leaves me with a "fruity wrapper" on the step sequencer window. As long as I'm here, could someone recommend a good C64 sound simulator/emulator? I tried Quantum64, but it doesn't quite sound right.

[Rellik]

Are you trying to add VST effects as instruments?

[Snyderman]

That could be it. Yes that's what I'm doing.

[Rellik]

In case it's not obvious, here's how it works:

The Effects list is separate from the Instruments list. They both have "More..." which shows you the list of plug-ins, but whichever you check off to be shown will only be shown in Effects if you accessed it from Effects, and only be shown in Instruments if you accessed it from Instruments.

[Snyderman]

Anyone? I'm still looking for a C64 VST.

[Xelebes]

QuadraSID is the best out there right now but it's gonna cost ya. Use Quantum 64 instead but I don't have a link. SimSynth can do a decent emulation of it to, just remember to keep the Band in the SVF a little over zero.

[Snyderman]

QuadraSID is the best out there right now but it's gonna cost ya. Use Quantum 64 instead but I don't have a link. SimSynth can do a decent emulation of it to, just remember to keep the Band in the SVF a little over zero.

Yea, I was testing out the QuadraSID demo, but I couldn't figure out how to get the Sanxion lead to sound right, heh. There's the progressive lead (preset), but it has this annoying trill if you aren't playing the notes legato, which gets really annoying.

[Xelebes]

Quantum64 is the best route, you just need to turn off the arpeggiator to stop it trilling or arpeggiating.

[Snyderman]

Yes, but it still has an (fluctuating?) wave. It doesn't keep a steady tone. It has that sound like it's resonating, and that's not quite the C64 sound I'm trying to capture. On another note, some of the other presets in QuadraSID are pretty good, but I think it's kind of odd to be shelling out 60 bucks for a 20 year old hardware emulator.

[Xelebes]

It's called the lfo. Turn the lfo amount down to zip. This should get rid of the fluctuating sound that you get.

[Snyderman]

This isn't a request... but I found this really cool VST. It's free too.

http://preromanbritain.com/ymvst/

It emulates Atari sounds fairly closely, I found it somehow when looking for C64 stuff and really love this thing.

[NoWave]

I'm looking for a really convincing tape echo effect that's free.

[Compyfox]

Steinberg offers a really oldschool one called "Karlete" on their webpage at www.steinberg.net under "downloads".

Elogoxa.net (www.elogoxa.net) offers another kind of "tape echo", which is a bit special. It's called ELOTTRONIX. It's also free, but you have to get used to it.

Elseways look on KvR for "delay" VST plugins.

[Xelebes]

This isn't a request... but I found this really cool VST. It's free too.

http://preromanbritain.com/ymvst/

It emulates Atari sounds fairly closely, I found it somehow when looking for C64 stuff and really love this thing.

You rock.

[skulkrusha]

Anyone know of any good VST/DX distortion units? I've got Buzzroom's, and they've given me good results, but I'd like something more.

Since then, I found one that I really like. It's called Cyanide 2, and I've gotten excellent sounds from it. What's more, it's a freebie!

http://www.smartelectronix.com/~bram/

[Xelebes]

Cyanide 2, I concur is a great VST. Gives a warmer sound than any other waveshaper I have heard.

[GrayLightning]

Sticky.

Cyanide is pretty nice for the price. :) I could not find a use for it in my type of music, but electronica mixers will probably.

[DM Lee]

Oh no, now I have another thread to be all responsible for starting and stuff... lol, jk.

I haven't been using many new effects but I downlaoded a ton recently and have been wanting to experiment with some new stuff, so expect more help from me on this.

I have two suggestions though, one for a compressor (I think I was directed to it from this thread but dotn remember). The "Classic Compressor" is really awesome and probably the best things about it are its very easy to use and user friendly, and it also has a light that lets you know when it is actually compressing the audio (if the light doesnt flash you havent done anything to the actual sound, but if it flashes non stop you probably did too much in some cases).

well, basically I use it for almost all of my compression and I find it a lot better than the fruity compressor.

Another one from the same company is the "Classic Chorus" which is prety warm and easy to use as well. I havent used it much but it has been a good tool for me.

Oh, and if you guys get the demo version of greenamp, the guitaramp simulator it becomes obsolete after a certain amount of time and you have to either redownload (if you can, i dont know) or you hust cant use it anymore. It was really cool too.

I have greenwah I think its called, its from the same compnay as greenamp but its a wah generator, it might be the same deal, it might run out after a while.

[skulkrusha]

Er ... You seem to have missed out the company's name, DM! :lol:

[DM Lee]

I dont remember where I got greenamp or greenwah from, sorry... Ill look it up right now if I can...

The company is greenmachine.

The classic stuff is from... kjaerhusaudio

Here, this should be prety helpful as I have found most of this stuff pretty nice and works very well.

I plan on trying out the classic eq which was added recently I think. I'll let you know when I have used it a few times if I trust it as much as the other stuff they supply.

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php (go here)

Definately get the compressor and chorus, but you will probably want to try out the master limiter and reverb yourself.

[Xelebes]

Someone made this VSTi for me so that I could have some nice Geometric wave shapes for me to use in my music.

http://studiosense.sytes.net/studiosense/viewtopic.php?t=1146

[GeckoYamori]

Heh, that ymVST rocks my world. I can easily make SID arpeggios in no time, so I won't have to spend millions of years doing it manually in the piano roll.

[GeckoYamori]

http://www.spinwarp.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=240&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

This is a nice new VSTi that makes those growling basslines you hear in modern Drum n' Bass.

[nostalgic gen]

Sticky.

Cyanide is pretty nice for the price. :) I could not find a use for it in my type of music, but electronica mixers will probably.

Yeah, I just inserted it (v2) in one of my tracks that I wasn't happy with the sound of. I think it's an improvement, but I'll see tomorrow after I've gotten the sound of it out of my head.

There are quite a number of cool plugins there actaully. I downloaded a few of them :D

[Xelebes]

http://www.spinwarp.com/index.php?POSTNUKESID=d0dcb3c75fa06891787a4723bc4c 8a13

The ReeseMx VSTi is hella cool.

[DM Lee]

Ill have to check these synths out but this thread is mire towards effects style vst's, not synths.

You guys should definately link your stuff in the sample and soundfont request thread, it would probably have more effectiveness there.

Thanx for hte links.

[Xelebes]

But it says VST in the title. =(

[GeckoYamori]

Actually, it says VST effects. I wouldn't mind having it changed to a universal VST thread though.

[GrayLightning]

I've been thinking of doing that as well. Done. ^_^ I have added dx formats also since they are fairly relevant to the discussion. Not too many people here use protools, rtas, audio units, etc. formats but they are also covered under this topic too.

Edit: I cleaned up the thread also.

[DM Lee]

Hey! What the hell man?!

This is my thread not yours, dont fuck with it!!!

Just kidding.

Im fine with this being the all things vst and dx thread, actually it is better that way, but there are a number of posts in the soundfont etc thread that may be usefull here...

I will have to transfer my own posts over as new posts in this thread.

Hope to see some more links t some rare vst's not in kvr, I look a lot but usually come up with crap...

Im gonna have to let everyone knwo what I think is crap so they can avoid it... thats probably a good idea as I even have a number of realy crappy vst's I can warn you all about.

[GrayLightning]

Ya, there are times when the lines between samples and vsts get blurry since some samples come in a vst engine now. We'll have to make do. :wink:

[GeckoYamori]

There aren't a lot of crap VSTs. I don't think you can judge a VST for example by how good the factory presets are.

[DM Lee]

I do more than use presets since if you rely on presets you will be very lacking in what the vsts can really do.

Some just lack brightness or dynamics or other things.

Some lack quality filters or have habits of clipping most of the time.

Some just sound extremely cheap.

Another thing is having a built in overdrive that might not be too good or something, or completely useless otherwise.

Oh, and then there are those vsts (like the wombat solina series) which claim to be modelled after certain instruments and you can not get anything close to the sound your supposed to be able to achieve.

There are many things that make a number of vst's crapy in my opinion, as well as a number of things that make some outstanding.

I do guess it is all preferential though.

[DM Lee]

http://www.ele4music.com/synthedit/synthedit.html

All with 15 day trials, but if you got a credit card you may wanna buy one if you like it. (around 9 to 15 bucks a piece)

[nostalgic gen]

Another thing to consider, with synth edit creations in particular, is CPU consumption. SE is notoriously inefficient. I went to a website for an emulator of some really cheap synth, like a NES or SID chip, or something. Consumption on an Athlon XP 2000+ was something like 12% :P

That's the main reason why I tend to ignore SE creations like the plague. Some worth keeping though. I think I have a couple in my collection :)

[Xelebes]

I agree. But sometimes they are the only synths that I know strictly emulate it. I know the YMVST only takes up 1% which is a very good thing, even though it has some inconsistencies especially in the higher frequencies. Otherwise, they might actually offer something really cool.

[nostalgic gen]

ym is a pleasing exception and I thank you for drawing my attention to it. :)

[skulkrusha]

Anyone have or know where I can get FM Carbon? I missed the Future Music issue that had the program on it, and I can't seem to find it online. I'd get the back issue, but it's very expensive to order from overseas. Anyone got it?

[Rellik]

I think you can only get the CM or FM plugs from the actual magazine, or something =(.

Anyway, mda JX10 rocks =D. It's got this really, really nice analog sound. You wouldn't think it would be very versatile, since it only has one waveform, but it can do quite a lot of things, and takes up barely any CPU. The sound is just silky smooth... it has no GUI, but still, I highly recommend it =). It does for analog and round what Synth1 does for digital and thin: high quality, useable sound.

[DM Lee]

Well, I wont be able to do much for this thread for a couple of weeks... I lost everything on my computer due to it crashing...

Sigh....

I lost about 50 vsti's and 25 vst effects (about half of them I had even had the chance to use yet fully yet).

I have to re install windows, but when I get everything back up I am going to comment on as many things as I can when I download them.

I will definately be getting the classic stuff again though, but other than that I will probably focus on downloading vst instruments, so expect lots of reviews of those when I get the chance.

Hopefully by that time there are a ton of suggestions on synths to try out and effects.

[skulkrusha]

I do more than use presets since if you rely on presets you will be very lacking in what the vsts can really do.

While I tend to steer away from using only preset sounds, I at least want to know what a synth/effect is capable of without having to spend my time figuring out how to use it first. If I scroll through the presets and I like them, I'm more likely to continue using the thing. Synths or effects that are difficult to get decent sounds out of will see much less usage from me (although there is the odd occassion when they're called for). On professional levels, good presets can mean the difference between a fortune and a flop. Of course, like you said, if you only use presets, you'll never hear the whole potential of the VST or DX, but for the early stages of using it, presets are useful simply for growing into it.

This is one of the reasons I don't like using soundfonts much; their scope of editability is extremely limiting. The only times I'll use one is when there isn't a synth equivalent of it that sounds good.

I think you can only get the CM or FM plugs from the actual magazine, or something =(.

Yeah, I was just hoping someone else read the mag too, and that they might have the plugin from it. It probably won't be too much of a hassle getting the back issue, though, since I can buy it for roughly the same price as a new issue :P

Edit: Sorry to hear about that, DM. I hope you can build up your collection again.

[Dj Orange]

Hello. Very recently I've become keen on the sound of the TB303. I have the Tau VSTi, and I think it's a great synth, but it's not close enough to the 'real' sound of the TB303 (for my tastes). Not squelchy enough. Are there some better VSTi's for TB303 emulation? Between the 3xOsc and Tau I can get most of the sounds I want, but I'm curious as to what else is out there.

[analoq]

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=28937

[DM Lee]

http://www.tweakbench.com/instruments.php

Havent tested these much, but found the site through kvr, seems pretty decent, cant wait to use the peach synth and defender :D

If any of these are found to be perticularly useful let me know, I will try and give sugestions on what is really good in this stuff.

[NembaTheKid]

Hmmm... for some reason defender doesn't seem to work for me... peach and toad are very very fun though.

[nostalgic gen]

Discovered this today, http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~thman/VST/vst-alleff.htm

[GeckoYamori]

Try Vanguard from www.refx.net

I have grown quite fond of it. What makes it different from other synthesizers is that it has a shitload of waveforms available on 3 oscillators, huge selection of filters, and a built-in arpeggiator and gater. It's very inspirational, you can quickly set up the arpeggiator along with the gater, and just play some random chords till you come up with something you like.

[skulkrusha]

http://www.tweakbench.com/instruments.php

Havent tested these much, but found the site through kvr, seems pretty decent, cant wait to use the peach synth and defender :D

I've used Tapeworm in a couple of my tracks - while I don't know how accurate a Mellotron emulator it is, it's got an interesting unrealistic sound which I kinda dig. I've used Monomate a few times, too, it makes a nice bass synth with a bit of 303 squelch in there.

The Peach and Toad synths are pure NES synth emulators, although I would have liked it more if the waveform section was more customizable. Haven't tried the Defend synth, though.

[GeckoYamori]

The Peach and Toad synths are mere sample players... What they do is play samples ripped directly from NES games, and most aren't even tuned right.

[nostalgic gen]

concretefx (http://www.concretefx.com) released a couple of new vsts the other day. A tape delay with some quite nice looking features (including saturation) and a pad machine as well.

[DM Lee]

Try Vanguard from www.refx.net

I have grown quite fond of it. What makes it different from other synthesizers is that it has a shitload of waveforms available on 3 oscillators, huge selection of filters, and a built-in arpeggiator and gater. It's very inspirational, you can quickly set up the arpeggiator along with the gater, and just play some random chords till you come up with something you like.

This thing has to get an award for the best presets ever or something lol.

I cant afford to buy this right now but i want to. The demo version cuts the volume randomly and after a while cuts it completely :(

You can still mess with all the knobs, you just have to do it through the event editor, you cant actually see the knobs.

I would suggest this to anyone who use presets in their music a lot.

[GeckoYamori]

I rarely ever use the presets, it's easy enough to program from scratch.

[DM Lee]

I rarely ever use the presets, it's easy enough to program from scratch.

Do you have the demo or the full version?

The demo version, everything has to be set by editing all the events (the image of the synth is only the top portion where you see the presets name.) You have to use the little fruit in the top left corner to edit anything.

[Xelebes]

It isn't too bad. It's like programming my Poly 800.

[GeckoYamori]

I have the full thing. However I do recall being able to edit in the demo. Just click the Edit button.

[Rellik]

I have the full thing. However I do recall being able to edit in the demo. Just click the Edit button.

Exactly. Hahah, DM Lee, you should experiment more, it would have saved you a whole lot of trouble (I couldn't imagine having to automate everything every time I wanted to make a tweak).

[DM Lee]

Maybe I need to redownload it or something because when i click edit it opens the window bigger, but all it shows is just a big gray window and what I could already see. The same thing happens with the button below edit (dont remember the name) It looks like it would show all the wire connections on the virtual back of the synth.

I'll try redownloading and re installing.

[skulkrusha]

There's no bug, DM; the demo only shows that 1U rack interface, without the controls. Other than that, it's fully functional, apart from the 15 minute timeout per session.

Edit: My bad ... Click the "edit" button on the right hand cluster of buttons.
Edit edit: I didn't read your post. Never mind.

[Majestic_Jester]

does anyone else have the crystal synth? its awsome and free...

it gets a little confusing but once you tweak and play with it a while its amazing! and the presets are awsome too. IMO the best vst synth on kvr-vst is the crystal synth.

[Megalitia]

Anyone knows a vst or soundfound that can emulate something like the synths used in the Malice Mizer and Moi Dix Mois songs (more precisely, the intro to Front Et Baiser (by M10M)

i looked into a lot of synths (but not all in this page, no time to check them all, sorry) and nothing have that sound when doing arpeggios (clean and fast sounding)... so, if anyone can shed a light here, it would be good..

thanks in advance.. ^^

[mightymarg]

Anyone know a free 303 VST that sounds good?

[skulkrusha]

does anyone else have the crystal synth? its awsome and free...

it gets a little confusing but once you tweak and play with it a while its amazing! and the presets are awsome too. IMO the best vst synth on kvr-vst is the crystal synth.

Yeah, it's excellent for a freebie. Future Music magazine even considers it a rival to most commercial soft synths. I find it confusing to program, though (never really bothered to learn).

Anyone know a free 303 VST that sounds good?

A TB303 emulator? There's some that come close. ReFX's Claw (http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/305.html) is one of my favourites. Tau (http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/50.html)'s not too bad, either. I've heard good things about the Tau Bassline Mk2, although it isn't free (but then, it's not very expensive, either. Some 303 emulators are much more expensive).

[-RK-]

If anybody has a really fat/mean sounding bass VST, free mind you, you would earn mad props from the Feimeister if you told me where you found it. :wink:

[Xelebes]

Odo B-Station
Krakli Flea3

Look on www.kvr-vst.com for them.

[-RK-]

Mad props granted. :wink:

[DM Lee]

I was bored the other night and made this... every sound you hear except the drums was made with egokiller (which i talked about earlier in the thread). I think I used six egokillers in this and part way through just changed octaves or pitches for certain ones.

This is basically to show a little of what the synth can do, dont think everything you make will sound this dirty, I didnt use a single bit of processing (no eq, no reverb, any delay was from the synth itself) the only thing i did was threw a light limiter on to the master fx channel.

ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/egokillerdemo.mp3

I guess i would like opinions on this since it only took me about ten minutes to make and i havent been doing much with my own synths so i was wondering if any of these sounds are good, or if they work well together.

Prolly not its all pretty weird.

[skulkrusha]

I know it's not really a VST or a DX (although I think this guy should seriously consider releasing it as a VST), but I was pretty darn impressed by this little gem when I noticed it crop up in unmod (as the target of a flamewar, no less; cookie to anyone who can guess why). It's capable of some very nice sounds, and I quite like it. IMO, the guy who wrote it is a bit of a nut, though.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

DM: That demo wasn't too bad, although I think you could have shown a bit more versatility in the sounds. I like that distorted saw wave sound, but it seems to be one of the only sounds you used (other than that high chirpy synth).

[DM Lee]

most of them used saws and pulse/saw oscillators.

I didnt really mean to make this to show off the synth or anything, I was just messing around and made that lead melody and rather liked it so i just added stuff to see hwo it would sound in a mix so I just rhew random crap into it so i can mess with egokiller some more. I was bored and just wanted to make sounds.

I plan on making a demo for egokiller that actually is meant to be a demo. After "Ego Killer" I am going to do a pentagon demo because I really like that synth generator, if not that then I am going to make one for "Triangle II" or maybe even "3Xosc" from fruity loops... though I should probably just direct people to old mixes from sirnuts to show the capabilities of 3xosc.

I dont remember who, but someone in this thread said they used superwavep8 a lot, maybe they should make a demo for it, others should demo their favorite synths too.

[DM Lee]

ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/egokillerdemo2.mp3

Heres another demo type thing for egokiller.

So far you can tell its pretty good for dirty bass synths and detuned stuff. The cleaner sounds are pretty hard to produce especially since if you have the built in distortion turned all the way down you hardly hear anything.

This time i used multiple types of oscillators.

For the lead, glassy, synth i used the doublesine for the main and sub oscillator. (i probably might have had a bit cleaner sound for that lead had I used no sub oscillator, oh well).

For anyone who has used egokiller, what is the doublesine? is it a sine oscillator with another sine right after it so that they follow each other and add just a bit of detuning, or do they fluctaute at opposite times like when the first sine wave reaches the top peak the other sine is at the bottom? Im just curious as to how the double sine option works.

The arrpegio is also made with a double sine in both osc's but it has different filtering and amp envelope.

The bass is two square wavs.

and the chord stabs are i think saw/pulse and saw.

Again i didnt use any kind of processing, not even a limiter or compressor. Nothing on the drums either. Listening now i would have boosted the bass and probably threw some reverb on the chord stabs and definately proceess the drums a lot, i would eq everything so its not so cluttered. This would sound better with processing, but i want to show the synths on its own abilities.

I dont know, this isnt that great but its probbably better sounds than the last demo. I didnt make this to sound good as an arrangement so its pretty flawed in that department, but i want to show a little different sounds from the generator.

Like i said, if you like kinda dirty grungy basses or detuned leads, etc then you should definately become familiar with this synth.

[DM Lee]

Has anyone had a chance to try out the new stringer vst over at kvr? I was wondering if it sounds pretty nice because it doesnt look too editable and i imagine if it has crappy sounds to start off with then you would just be editing crap (like the wombat solina series vst's IMO).

[Rellik]

Meh... stringer. Not my type of thing (by the way, it's not new). It's basically just a bunch of synth string samples, and they're not even all tuned correctly =(. I wouldn't recommend it, but people seem to like it... people seem to like a lot of crap, though (not that it's crap).

For FM, check out OxeFM.

[DM Lee]

I have noticed a lot of sample based vst's sound like crap. There are some nice ones like sampletank (though ive never used it and have no idea of its editability or anything like that) and a couple others. ooooh, like the ummm... the series of sampled vst's with a rhodes piano one, a piano, electric piano, and a bass guitar... thats it, its bugging me (looks for the name) Ok, found it, the 4front series found here>>> http://www.yohng.com/

Maybe the stringer was just updated or something because when i go to kvr to see whats new, i set the search to show the most recently added stuff and its like one of the most recent three or something.

[DM Lee]

ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/egokillernewdemo.mp3

Heres a new egokiller demo.

I think analoq will like this one, because when i hear the main synth i used it just makes me think of synths i have heard analoq use before, not this exact kind, but similair styling.

I dont know, i just thought of analoq when i made this.

The sounds in this fit together a lot better than the other egokiller deom mixes, and this one has some processing done to it and a much much better drumset and melodic value.

In my opinion this is a very nice synth... I tried saving the preset but fruitydemo didnt let me save it, it saved it as a wrapper file or some crap and doesnt even work as a preset so its lost but i am sure i can reconstruct it easily.

I have a wav sample of the synth if anyone wants it at all.

[Xelebes]

Does anyone know of any good free FM VST synths? Thanks in advance.

Land of Cockaigne's Panzertank PM4

or this OxeVST who I forgot made this or where it can be found. It's quite cool. 8 oscillators that can be modulated or something. Has a whole matrix of modulation controls and that.

[analoq]

I think analoq will like this one, because when i hear the main synth i used it just makes me think of synths i have heard analoq use before, not this exact kind, but similair styling.
hehe. catchy synth bass, what's not to like? (:

cheers.

[Xelebes]

Ok, time for me to ask something from you guys. I want a VSTi that can pulse modulate a saw wave. I have the JunoX2, I can do that but I am looking for a more efficient VSTi than that. Gotta be free.

Or am I just looking over the obvious here?

[analoq]

sorry, the phrase "pulse modulate a saw wave" doesn't immediately return anything. can you elaborate on this is? i'd look up the junoX2 specs to try and guess but i'm feeling lazy right now.

cheers.

[Xelebes]

Ok, the Juno X2 is a not so good emulation of the Alpha Juno. It has the ability to pulse width modulate a saw wave which I am not too sure if any other synths are capable of doing this.

[analoq]

i don't think i'm familiar with such an oscillator that does that. could record a slow sweep the pulse of the sawtooth generator and post it? i'm curious to know how it sounds.

cheers.

[Xelebes]

sample is here:

http://echogames.com/~apm/upload/files/pwmsaw-sweep.mp3

[nostalgic gen]

I think I have a synth that allows you to so-called pwm all waveforms. It might be the z3ta+ in fact. I don't know what it's actually doing, but I presume it's made possible due to the way pwm is implentated on wavetable synths. If a synth creates pulse width modulation of a square wave by applying an algorithm to the wavetable itself then clearly if you load a new sample into the wavetable it too will be affected in the same way by that modulation.

I discovered this freeware synth (http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?soundforumsynth_us) from NI today. I'll share it here for anyone who's interested.

[Northern_Fist]

I don't mean to intergect anything too soon, or out of place, but this seemed like an appropriate thread: Do any of you own the refx Vanguard softsynth? What do you make of it?

Yeah, from what I've seen in my research for good VST's the Juno is definately kick-azz, but I'm pretty poor at the moment, and the Vanguard is definately affordable. Do you agree that it's potential is mostly in trance?

[zircon]

I don't mean to intergect anything too soon, or out of place, but this seemed like an appropriate thread: Do any of you own the refx Vanguard softsynth? What do you make of it?

Yeah, from what I've seen in my research for good VST's the Juno is definately kick-azz, but I'm pretty poor at the moment, and the Vanguard is definately affordable. Do you agree that it's potential is mostly in trance?

As far as I am aware, Vanguard is a high-quality VA synth. I don't own it, but I've heard plenty of good things about it. Though it has some features that seem to be trance-oriented, I think it seems to be a good VA all-around, and could fit it one of many genres. The reason why it's popular for trance/dance etc. is because of the presets, which are particularly suited for those genres.

However, if you're looking for a synth that would fit in a variety of genres and packs a lot of power, you might want to look elsewhere. Some synths you might consider are z3ta+, Rhino, and fm7.

[Northern_Fist]

Thanks! I'll be looking into those - but half of what I do is trance anyways, so - this is good.

[zircon]

I'm very bored at work, so I thought I'd write out some VST/DX recommendations of mine.

- Recommended free VSTs -

* Superwave p8 (http://home.btconnect.com/christopherg/main.htm) - The ultimate free softsynth for dance music. This has a Prophet-ish sound coming from it's "Super Wave" function and massive detuning capabilities. It's CPU-heavy, a bit buggy, and not that flexible, but is superb for making any sort of dance/trance sounds. The presets are also great.

* Crystal (http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/download.html) - A real beast of a softsynth. Crystal has more sound-mangling capability than any other free synth I've yet tried, putting it in a class of its own. It uses up massive CPU, is complicated to program, and is not good for simple VA (virtual analog) stuff, but for strange sounds, effects, and pads, this is your synth.

* sfz (http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfz.htm) - a simple but effective soundfont player. I both love and hate this plugin; I love it because the sound quality is better than any other free soundfont player I've tried, and even better than FL's commercial player. But I hate it because it refuses to load large soundfonts if it thinks you don't have enough memory. Nonetheless, I would recommend no other free
soundfont player over this one.

* polyIblit (http://www.bostreammail.net/ers/polyiblit.html) - A surprisingly in-depth VA synth that's not too heavy on CPU. The presets are pretty "blah" in my opinion, but the synth is very flexible and is really all you need for relatively simple subtractive synthesis.

* String Theory (http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/1074.html) - A "physical-modelling" softsynth that emulates string/plucked instruments. While it won't convince anyone if you use it to replace real string instruments, I find it can create a whole lot of unique pluck sounds that fit in much better than pluck sounds generated from normal subtractive synthesizers. Very cool.

* Drumatic (http://www.e-phonic.com/vstplugins/drumatic.html) - A simple but effective drum machine that's very CPU efficient. Using 808 and 606-modelled sounds, you'll find a lot of potential uses for this synth in any type of electronic music.

* Ganymed (http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/217.html) - A complex FM synthesizer that's a bit heavy on CPU. This synth has a set of rock-solid presets, all displaying the potential of the synth; from sharp, digital, sequenced patches to warm pluck sounds. This might be my favorite free synthesizer, and my second favorite FM synthesizer.

* "Classic" effects series (http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php) - A set of excellent, CPU-efficient effects. All of them sound exceptional, better than most free effects I've seen. There aren't many presets for each, but what's there is good. If you're looking for a simple, core set of effects, look no further.

- Recommended commercial VSTs -

* Native Instruments Absynth 2, Pro-53, fm7(www.nativeinstruments.com) - Ok, I know I'm going to sound like an NI salesperson, but I absolutely LOVE these products, which range in price from $200 to $400. fm7 is an incredibly powerful FM synth modelled after the Yamaha DX7, Pro-53 is a near-flawless emulation of the Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 (and is probably my favorite VA synth), and Absynth 2 is a modular synth capable of producing a range of sounds, excelling at ambient effects and pads. I use these synths *constantly*, and they're worth every penny.

* rgc:audio z3ta+ (http://www.rgcaudio.com/z3ta%2B.htm) - One of the most powerful softsynths in existence, available for a mere 150 pounds (about $230 USD). It eats up CPU like crazy, but is capable of almost any type of synthesis you can imagine. The presets are very good, and the interface is slick and smooth. I believe AE is a big fan of this synth as well. If you're going to buy one synth to fit all your needs, this one is probably your best bet.

* Cyanide 2 (can't seem to find a link for this.. where did it go?) - An excellent waveshaping distortion effect. This easy-to-use plugin, which combines waveshaping with EQ and filtering, can turn a mild synth sound into a screaming lead or rumbling bass in no time. There are very few presets, but they should give you a good idea of what the effect can do. CPU usage is not too bad, but grows when you make more complex waveforms for the distortion.

[SirRus]

wow, praise be to zircon, your post is extremely helpful. I grabbed most of that stuff that I didn't already have.

There is such thing as a "better" soundfont player? So if I loaded my soundfonts into the sfz VST I would get a "better" sound than the commercial FL one I am currently using? Just curious what you meant by that. Also if you could look into my question I posted on the Software/Hardware sticky - would Native Instruments more cost effective than a Korg Trinity rack module/Reason. Now I'm really comparing apples/oranges/grapes, but I don't know how to spend money! I guess I couldn't go wrong with any of these quality products, but curious what the zircon has to say about it, if you had to choose one (since we both currently use FLStudio)

"upgrade" to Reason for its professional sounds etc vs Korg module vs Native Instruments

[zircon]

wow, praise be to zircon, your post is extremely helpful. I grabbed most of that stuff that I didn't already have.

There is such thing as a "better" soundfont player? So if I loaded my soundfonts into the sfz VST I would get a "better" sound than the commercial FL one I am currently using? Just curious what you meant by that.

Well, it might be just me, but when I use sfz and set the 'quality' to uber or uber++, I find, say, Squidfont to sound better than the fruity SF player. You could try comparing them side by side and see what you come up with. One big advantage the fruity SF player has, though, is that it doesn't give you memory errors like sfz will if you load big soundfonts, and it can do slides :D

Also if you could look into my question I posted on the Software/Hardware sticky - would Native Instruments more cost effective than a Korg Trinity rack module/Reason. Now I'm really comparing apples/oranges/grapes, but I don't know how to spend money! I guess I couldn't go wrong with any of these quality products, but curious what the zircon has to say about it, if you had to choose one (since we both currently use FLStudio)

"upgrade" to Reason for its professional sounds etc vs Korg module vs Native Instruments

I'll post my thoughts on that issue in the other thread.

[-RK-]

http://www.smartelectronix.com/

Cyanide 2 is somewhere on this site.

[DM Lee]

* "Classic" effects series (http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php) - A set of excellent, CPU-efficient effects. All of them sound exceptional, better than most free effects I've seen. There aren't many presets for each, but what's there is good. If you're looking for a simple, core set of effects, look no further.


This man speaks the turht, as youve all probably already seen, ive recomended this series already.

The compressor is one of the best compressor utilities ive used and it is very user friendly yet powerful. If you want a compressor for single instruments, this is it, and i even use it for that final export when i need to just level things out a little more...

A multi band compressor would probably work better for finished mixes but i think this is just fine for my tastes and my personal sound.

Also, i find the classic reverb to sound very very clean and full, and very very very effective on realistic type instruments (if you want that piano in a grand hall feel, or a violinist playing in a small auditorium, or maybe a string orchestra playing at a venue in a big open space, etc). The presets are really good too and just like the other classic vst's its so user friendly and easy to use without being cheap and crappy.

I recomend the set to anyone who uses free effects.

Oh, and i mentioned it before in a post, but there is a light on the compressor that tells you when you actually compress the audio and not just lower the threshold level, say you want to just "barely" compress your sounc, you can guesstimate it with fruity compressor and think youve done something or wait til you hear a sound difference (which would probably be more than just "barely" compressing) but with classic you can keep lowering the threshold or attack or lengthen the decay until you see the light just flicker every so often. Trust me, its a lot more useful to actually have something tell you your compressing than you realise.

I want to take this chance to put out two new demos (and show my mad skillz, jk) for 3xosc. Im no sir nuts but these are some pretty ok sounds.

This first one is just 3xosc sounds and its only three of them (my computer im using sucks and im getting my mixing computer back soon, i cant fit too much in one song or i cant listen to it).

ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/3xosc_sample.mp3

I made the lead thinking about the thread about "generic trance leads" and figured id make one myself (for the first time i think i actually did a good job) and the bass i wanted to sorta sound like some of kylie minogues stuff, but not quite... either youll get what i mean or you wont. just sorta eighties sounding bass i guess. The arrpeggios i dont know, i just needed to demo another sound for 3xosc. The beat was so complicated and i usually suck at beats so it was hard to pull one off in this, especially when it had weird timing, the first beat was like not really on the first beat... i dont know how to explain. BUt yeah i do the same thing i did in a couple demos, i changed the style of the song in the end to show a different way of playing the same sounds.

this next one i only made the bass and the arrpegs

ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/3xosc-sample2-beat-practice.mp3

(and its waaaaaaaaaay longer than it needs to be because i like it and want to hear it loop, lol). The arrpeggios were made with the fruity arrpegiator (a great addition to the already powerful 3xosc, not saying its new, but its a great part of 3xosc that is often overlooked). The bass is very deep so you need headphones or you need a sub to listen. The string is just a violin soundfont. The bass is like perfect for hiphop and stuff like that, very deep. This one isnt that great of a demo for the 3xosc, but i like doing this and if it makes poeple get into making their own synths more or using the synths i demo then its all worth while. plus i need the practice badly so i can get better at making my own synths, like i said, im no sir nuts (or GLL or beatdrop, or zircon, or xelebes or etc... wow i suck more than everyone... that sucks)

[Xelebes]

This needed to be posted here. This is a vsti that makes pretty decent hoovers, though you'll probably need to put it through a lofi and excite the higher frequencies a bit to get a grungier sounds, but does make real nice hard house hoovers, IMO.

http://www.dominotesongs.com/vstifw/hoovermaker/setup.exe

[Xelebes]

Never heard of Psycle but I am assuming it is a freeware sequencer. It works fine with FruityLoops, that I am sure of. Trying to think of a solution for ya but I'll have to get back to you.

Edit - I'm also trying to download the Aftershock plugin here but I am having some difficulties getting past the license dealie here as it seems to lead to a dead link. Can someone provide me the link to it or is the file actually not on the server?

http://www.dominotesongs.com/vstifw/

[ArseAssassin]

Awesome.

VST-version of ZynAddSubFX has been released.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

Check it out. Now.

[Xelebes]

Awesome.

VST-version of ZynAddSubFX has been released.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

Check it out. Now.

YESSSSSS!!!!!!

I've waited long for this!

Edit - it won't load into FruityLoops, no!

[ArseAssassin]

Awesome.

VST-version of ZynAddSubFX has been released.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

Check it out. Now.

YESSSSSS!!!!!!

I've waited long for this!

Edit - it won't load into FruityLoops, no!
Copy zynaddsubfx.dll into windows/system32 folder. That'll do the trick.

BTW, is it just me or are the filters a crap.

[Xelebes]

Wow, is it ever really buggy.

I have to edit the synth first before being able to hear it and when I ear it, I cannot edit any further because the synthwindow doesn't show up. I'm going to wait until this plugin gets fixed and a lot more stable than it is right now.

[ArseAssassin]

Actually it just likes to jump down to the task bar. I still haven't spotted a single bug.

[nostalgic gen]

That's great news. This is an excellent synth, though it's well beyond my pcs capabilities and the UI is a bit naff. Even so, I've been waiting a long time for a VST version, almost to the point where I was going to try and do it myself! :p

[analoq]

i'd try it, but i can't get past the guy's bible-thumping.
it's GPL tho.. maybe i should fork a version that encourages satanic exploitation. (:

(don't worry, i'm probably joking)

cheers.

[GeckoYamori]

Check out this new free multi-fx plugin. Excellent quality, and low CPU usage.

http://www.luxonix.com/home/en/

[Farq]

i'd try it, but i can't get past the guy's bible-thumping.
it's GPL tho.. maybe i should fork a version that encourages satanic exploitation. (:

(don't worry, i'm probably joking)

cheers.

Really? I'd thought it was under a custom license. AFAIK a "no satan" license isn't compatible w/ GPL. I'd dodged this one on the grounds that it was buggy as hell, and later learned about the bible-thumpage.

Somsone later released some other VST (which I recall being impressed with) that was off-limits to religious use, in reaction to this one. I wish I could remember the name of it.

[analoq]

it's GPL. his plea that people don't use his software for music that goes against his religious beleifs is just that -- a plea.
he can't mandate it without changing the license.

if i used his software i'd want to respect his plea but honestly i have no idea what this guy would consider acceptable or not.
can i not make a doom remix since doom has demons? can i not make any house music because of the early popularity of house in gay clubs?

it's just something i don't want to have to think about when i'm making music.
cheers.

[Fray]

it's GPL. his plea that people don't use his software for music that goes against his religious beleifs is just that -- a plea.
he can't mandate it without changing the license.

if i used his software i'd want to respect his plea but honestly i have no idea what this guy would consider acceptable or not.
can i not make a doom remix since doom has demons? can i not make any house music because of the early popularity of house in gay clubs?

it's just something i don't want to have to think about when i'm making music.
cheers.

Well, he says to please not use it for anything that is "against God and Jesus Christ". If you read that as boolean logic, you're in the clear as long as your song only insults God, or Jesus Christ, individually, but not both at the same time.

For example, if I used it to make a song with the lyric, "God has sex with goats, and that's why he rulz", or a song that said "Jesus Christ can suck my wang", I'd be ok. But if I had both lyrics in the same music, or mixed them together like, "God and Jesus Christ do fingercuffs with goats", that would be a violation of the license.

Hope that clears things up for you guys.

Of course, if music that appeals to gays is a problem, you better keep that VST far away from anything Broadway, teehee.

[Tossy]

teh funneyman is fraay

[gogetails22122]

Im looking for an Accoustic Guitar VSTi, does anyone know if theres such a VSTi for free? If so could you tell me what its called and or where i could get it? Thanks in advance.

[Xelebes]

The only one I can think of is Stringer, which is..... ok, I guess. I don't like it much but you might find some use for it though. Look it up on www.kvr-vst.com with the vst search engine they have there.

[GrayLightning]

ZynAddSubFX sounds interesting. I'll probably check it out soon, but I'm very picky. ;)

[gogetails22122]

Thanks, i cant get an accoustic guitar sound from it though :? . Oh well i guess ill have too search on google. I hope ill find one :? .


EDIT: Yes! I found one, and its pretty kool, http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Plucked_String/screenshot.shtml theres a screenshot, aand the link to the download is there too, you guys should try it out :D .

[Miku]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but
is there any decent free voice synthesizing plugin or program? Kind of like the thing in Fruity Loops, but better? I'm especially interested in a British sounding voice, like the one in the demo version of the Microtonic drum VST. ("You should consider purchasing your copy of the Microtonic!" =D)

[Tossy]

Are you sure it isn't a voice recording run through a vocoder? In that case, get out your mic, put on your best British accent, and use some kind of vocoder to make it sound synthy.

But if it actually is a totally synthesized voice, with a British accent (usually those just come out with a simply "computer" accent, if you will.......)........ I have no idea, man

[analoq]

you can play with Rhetorical's rVoice system (http://www.rhetorical.com/cgi-bin/demo.cgi).
it's a TTS demo that has british male and female voices. though they change the voices around every few days as it is a demo.
the 'valley girl' voice is a hoot. :)

cheers.

[GrayLightning]

you can play with Rhetorical's rVoice system (http://www.rhetorical.com/cgi-bin/demo.cgi).
it's a TTS demo that has british male and female voices. though they change the voices around every few days as it is a demo.
the 'valley girl' voice is a hoot. :)

cheers.

Great site. Requesting certain profane words and one gets this "This rVoice demo is made available for non-commercial demonstration purposes only. Inappropriate text will not be synthesized." :o

[Miku]

I forgot about vocoders, I'll have to try that. Well, once I find out where my XLR cable went. *sigh*
Thanks for the link. =D

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

K, I'm looking for two types of VST's maybe you can help me... small full software apps good too... (I've given KVR a brief look)

1-A pitch control slider capable of several octaves in either direction.

2-(and I'm not sure if this is even possible...)a slider control with a 44100 sample rate at one end and a 6000 or so one at the other... that would likely be a simulation, but from high quality to low quality... you know what I mean right?

[Xelebes]

For number two, do you mean a lofi effect? And by ends do you mean panning or the tail ends of the song?

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

For number two, do you mean a lofi effect? And by ends do you mean panning or the tail ends of the song?

I suppose I do mean a lofi effect *smacks head* :lol: , but one I could automate; from hifi-lofi... and by ends I just mean the two extremes of the slider.

[Xelebes]

You can do that with any Lofi VST. Most free VSTs can be automated.

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

You can do that with any Lofi VST. Most free VSTs can be automated.
Coo, thanks for the quick draw replies Xelebes... I appreciate your knowledge base... and musical tastes and location for that matter...

Huge pitch-bender slider VST? Anyone? Anyone?

[Compyfox]

Perhaps trying a pitchshifter? You can find some over at KvR. But please don't ask me for names as I don't use any for mangling wave tracks (yeah! I know I'm boring! hehe).

[JustChris]

Here's an awesome synth that's specially made for obscure FX sounds, called Invader (http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/430.html) by e-phonic. It goes beyond most VST synths I've seen. You know those old generic video game sound bites from the arcades? You can recreate them here. Mess around with the presets, they're full of interesting chirps and warbles.

[Synth]

I'm looking for a wah-wah effect vst. Or can a wah-wah be made using a flagner/phaser or something along these lines.

[DM Lee]

http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/871.html
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/1138.html ($25)

Might find something useable in this http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/465.html

Thats all I can really find right now, I had to go through he quick list on the right, I cant seem to find anyhting using their new search system.

[IC]

I'm looking for a wah-wah effect vst. Or can a wah-wah be made using a flagner/phaser or something along these lines.

A wah is basically an automated filter sweep, so you could just use a filter with an lfo or two right?

I'm not 100% sure, I don't have a ton of knowledge there.

[DM Lee]

A wah effect can be produced in multiple ways actually. The most effective, from my personal experience, is have an envelope adjusting the cutoff and reson, and you can even adjust the amp if you want the Wah to come out from no sound, or if you want sound that wahs through.

Basically work with your cut off envelope and get a decent wah sound then fiddle with the reson and amp a bit and the cutoff some more.

This method works for the type of wah sound I like...

[IC]

An LFO is a Low Frequency Oscillator which means it will modulate the low frequencies at a defined rate. And the amount determines how low (and high) the frequency to be modulated is.

A wah effect can be produced in multiple ways actually. The most effective, from my personal experience, is have an envelope adjusting the cutoff and reson, and you can even adjust the amp if you want the Wah to come out from no sound, or if you want sound that wahs through.

Basically work with your cut off envelope and get a decent wah sound then fiddle with the reson and amp a bit and the cutoff some more.

No, an LFO does not modulate lower frequency sounds, or any sounds based on frequency. Ack. It means it oscillates at low frequencies, thereby useful in automating filter sweeps and stuff, as I described. So assign some LFO's to the cutoff, resonance and whatnot of a filter, play around with it a bit, and you get an automated version of the wah you just described.

[DM Lee]

I dont even remember saying that, lol...

I have been sick for a few days, i might have been out of it.

I would normally not try and describe the way an lfo works or what its purpose is. I understand it but I know I can't explain it... so my trying to was pointless and i really dont know what i tried for.

[ArseAssassin]

I'm looking for a good multi-band compressor, because Fruity doesn't come with one and all I could find was crap. Suggestions?

[DM Lee]

This might have been answered in the beginning of the thread because this was the reason for my first post in it and started the whole thread, lol.

I remember someone linked me to one, but I didnt like it that much.

[analoq]

well, if the mda multiband compressor (http://mda.smartelectronix.com/effects.htm) ain't good enough for ya then you'll need to shell out some $$$

[ArseAssassin]

Oh right, MDA had one. Silly me.

[DM Lee]

COPY FROM THREAD ABOUT ETHNIC VST'S...

You should probably be more specific than ethnic instruments... are you looking for percussive, pitched percussive, plucked, blown, bowed, etc?

If you want some plucked instrument sound you can get the slayer 2 vst which has a preset for a sitar which you can alter to get other similair instrument sounds from it. Its not the best for modeling guitar (well i guess its probably one of the best in the market, but its nothing compared to the real thing) but for other picked/plucked instruments you may find a good use for it. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/245.html

There is also a vst that is called plucked string which i have not used but may help you out, again for the same style of sound but it looks like it may be more effective than slayer since this looks to model acoustic rather than electric which has a completely different timber. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/129.html

Wow, I just now found this and actually I may shell out the money for this myself soon. It is called smart flute and samples from "indian flute", pan flute, piccolo, "Shakahuchi", and flute tong which i have actually never heard of but sounds ethnic. This obviously makes use of ethnic flutes so it may be worth your checking out. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/587.html

You may get some ethnic orchestral strings out of this with some tweaking but either way I loved this vst when I used to use it myself. From what I remember the vst can get rather loud in DB without actually sounding very loud (but this was way back when i really sucked at synthesis so I probably was just fucking up). When i had good sounds they were really good. Modeled only for strings. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/177.html

(copied from kvr-vst) Culture contains over 9GB (2 DVDs) of authentic, highly-optimised sounds of world, ethno, industrial and orchestral percussion. Included are instruments from all over the world, with nearly every sound detail, which help make Culture sound so incredibly real. In order to achieve such a high level of authenticity, the instruments were recorded with nearly all playing techniques, for example, a djembe contains: bass tones, closed, half closed, half open, open, damped, fingered, flams, rolls, ghosts, drags, ... nearly all instruments with 16 velocity splits for left AND right hand. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/325.html

(again copied from kvr-vst, but I used to use this synth and I had so much fun with it. Seriously one of the FUNNEST synths out there IMO. Great in happy hardcore :D ) Delay Lama is a VSTi for Mac & PC that makes your computer sound and look like a singing Tibetan monk. Delay Lama is the first software synthesizer that features both vocal synthesis and a real-time 3D animated interface, which dynamically reacts to musical gestures from the user. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/226.html

(This sounds perfect for you, just wish I could try a demo to see how this sounds... again copied from kvr-vst) Ethnosphere comes with over 300 pristine quality sound banks and includes several kinds of Buzouki, Sitar, Koto Shamisen, Santur, Dulcimer, Psaltry, Harp, Zither, Saz, Mandolin, Banjo, Guitar, Pipe, Ethnic Orchestral Ensemble, Accordion, Musette as well as tons of percussion instruments and loops. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/489.html

Mutant koto here: http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/1071.html

(again, kvr says it best, and this sounds like it could very well be worth the moeny... its too bad im a cheap bastard) A wonderful and unique sample library for everyone who would like to discover the rich sounds of the South Pacific and use them in their music. The library was produced by Airileke ('Airi') Ingram who recorded a host of indigenous instruments. There are also village ambience tracks from Airi's village Gabagaba in Central Province of Papua New Guinea and Munum village in the Morobe Province, and spoken and chanted vocals. Most of the instruments in this CD come from Papua New Guinea ('PNG'), a nation in the western region of the South Pacific Ocean, to the north of Australia. It is one of the most culturally diverse countries in the world with over 800 languages and over 3000 dialects. http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/478.html

I have looked at well over 70 vst's and I did skip a lot that the name suggested it was non-ethnic or purely synth so if there is anything I might have mised sorry, but this hsould definately give you some ideas or starting points.

I am going to copy this into the vst thread so that this post does not end up lost as I put a good hours work into finding this all out, and I also want to keep a lot of these in mind for myself in the future.

I hope this helps and everyone should check most of these out

If anyone has any experience with these let me know so i dont waist my money soon because i am very interested in some of these that cost.

[Synth]

Im looking for some vsts that are good for 80's and early 90's synths.

[zircon]

Im looking for some vsts that are good for 80's and early 90's synths.

Well.. those synths were just cheesy. Lots of tremolo and high pitches. Looks for FM synths, since FM became popular in the 80s. fm7 would do the trick, I think, but it's not free.

[DM Lee]

I really like the feel of egokiller for old school sounds.

Like so > ftp://66.221.70.133/u.b.b./synth_demos/egokillernewdemo.mp3

I have made a lot of old school synths while messing around with egokiller.

I rarely use oldschool stuff so I dont have any other samples, but if you want old school bass patches you can work something out with this and its fairly user friendly. Not too much to control but enough to make it versatile.

And yeah, fm7 is what everyone says for old school shit, so take zircons advice.

[DM Lee]

yeah, i think it was beatdrop who mentioned mutant koto in the original thread where the guy asked for ethnic vst's. He didnt have the link so I just found it and threw it in the post.

I am pretty sure he mentioned mutagene making it too.

I think analoq should make some vst's. He seems to be "one of" the most knowledgable people on the site when it comes to synthesis.

[ArseAssassin]

Here's an odd one: does anyone know of a VST frequency shifter? Not a pitch shifter, a frequency shifter. That is, something that moves all frequency in a signal up or down by the same number of hertz, as opposed to multiplying or dividing the frequencies. In other words, a pitch shifter maintains harmonic relationships, whereas frequency shifters don't.I guess you could use Goldwave's Expression Evaluator, although you'd have to learn to use it first. I'm not really sure what it's capable of, but still a handy tool.

[DM Lee]

cant you do that with fine tuning? (not trying to sound smart assed or anything, but is this what you mean?)

[Miku]

Say you have two notes holding, an A (220 hertz) and the A above it (440 hertz). You adjust the fine tuning dial up a bit, and say it brings the higher note up to A# (476ish hertz?). Like Robocop said, pitch shifters and tuners etc. multiply/divide frequencies and maintains harmonic relationships. So assuming the upper note goes from 440 to 476 hertz, the lower note goes from 220 hertz to 238 hertz, an increase of only half as many hertz.
Robocop's asking for something that will raise everything by the same amount of hertz, not proportionally, but absolutely.

So no, a fine tuner doesn't do that (unless by fine tuner you're referring to something other than the dial found in lots of VSTi's and such which changes the pitch and is measured in cents).

[Xelebes]

Are you asking for something that takes a harmonic from a signal and shifts it, ~?

Edit - oh.

Ok, hm, that would be an odd thing to calculate as you you would need to break down the fourier series of the signal and then process it from there. It might work if you used a vocoder kind of setup but I'm sure you'd be wanting something with at least a minimum of 4,096 bands in it to do a decent job.

[DM Lee]

I think you are thinking of the coarse knobs (when you say that only go by semitones). The coarse is what you can adjust to make one oscillator a semitone, tone, to an octave or two higher...

The fine tuning works with cents, far less than a basic coarse adjuster. Fine tuning tunes in degrees smaller than note of a single note distance. If you wanted to do what you just described you would still move each note up one half step (440 to 476, 220 to 238) but for the oscillator of the 238 you can adjust the fine tuning to reach values of each hz inbetween that and the next semi tone.

Fine tuning is basically to get to all the frequencies between the fundamental note frequencies.

You are probably wanting something that does this automatically after you've set up the amounts right?

This seems to me like it might sound ok when the notes are even octaves apart but once you start raising notes you will just run into more and more dissonance until you reach some point where the harmonic levels are a fifth apart or something.

[gogetails22122]

Um, is there an acid vsti anywhere thats free or atr least has a demo? Like the one acid in Outer Space Machine by Relik. Ive been searchign and all i find is ACID Pro.

[ArseAssassin]

Um, is there an acid vsti anywhere thats free or atr least has a demo? Like the one acid in Outer Space Machine by Relik. Ive been searchign and all i find is ACID Pro.I'd recommend buying Muon Tau Pro 2. It's not the most accurate TB-303 emulator, in fact it hardly sounds like TB, but it costs only $20 and you can make some really sweet acid sounds with it. You should at least try out the demo.

[zircon]

Um, is there an acid vsti anywhere thats free or atr least has a demo? Like the one acid in Outer Space Machine by Relik. Ive been searchign and all i find is ACID Pro.

Rellik uses 3xosc a lot for that type of sound.

If you want THE tb303 emulation, you want Audiorealism Bassline.. but you can get those distorted sounds with the 3xosc just fine.

[gogetails22122]

Ok, thanks a lot guys!

[gogetails22122]

Is there a drumsynth that has a sound like in Protricities "Mechanical Swamp" song? In the review it said CR78-ish but if thats the correct one, where could i get some pretty good CR78 sounding drumsynths?

I plan on messing around with swamp originals, and maybe a remix of Bayou Boogie from DKC2.

[skulkrusha]

Is there a drumsynth that has a sound like in Protricities "Mechanical Swamp" song? In the review it said CR78-ish but if thats the correct one, where could i get some pretty good CR78 sounding drumsynths?

http://www.e-phonic.com/vstplugins/drumatic_3.html
Try that, it sounds a lot like a CR78 (http://www.hollowsun.com/vintage/cr78/).

[Compyfox]

Hardware synth fans listen up:
I'm looking for a VSTi that sounds similar to the oldschool "Roland XV5080" rack synthesizer (because 1200 bucks is still a bit much to get this thing new). It doesn't matter if it's commercial or not, but it has to sounds like that oldschool synthesizer, not some "new instrument" sh*t that I can find over at KVR every day.

If you have an idea and it's not NI Reaktor, then please post your suggestions here. Thanks in advance.

[Tenacious T]

Sorry if this question has already been said, but Im in a hurry. What is a VST for strings that sound real and not electronic. Kinda like the sounds in zircon's mixs or in marc star's dirty sam mix.

[Xelebes]

Here is a very snazzy reverb plugin that is free. Much cleaner sound than any of the free reverb plugins I have.

http://www.dasample.com/index.php?show=glaceverb

[Internecivus Raptus]

Anyone know where I can pick up some snappy metal drums or a metal drum set VST? I searched KVR and I couldnt find any...

[Nemba]

I'm searching for something that'll give me a really 'spwangy' and clean bass sound, can be synthish but semi-realism is preferred.

[Hadyn]

So I have a question about Edirol Orchestral and FLStudio 5.

Edirol is a plug-in that contains many different instruments inside the one thing - how do I set it so each instrument has its own piano roll?

As it is, I have a different instance of edirol open for every instrument, which is reallllly slowing my computer a lot.

If anyone can help me, that'd be great.

~Hadyn

EDIT: Nevermind, Dragonlord saved the day :D

[Rexy]

Well darn. So I just came into the labs for a good weekend trial and I found out that the Super Quartet disc has gone awol. Not good. o_O

So yeah, is there any way that I can be hooked up with VSTs relating to piano, bass, drums and *ACOUSTIC* guitar? Most preferably of the live performance type?

Thanks in advance :)

[Xelebes]

I'm searching for something that'll give me a really 'spwangy' and clean bass sound, can be synthish but semi-realism is preferred.

What do you mean by spwangy?

[Nemba]

I'm searching for something that'll give me a really 'spwangy' and clean bass sound, can be synthish but semi-realism is preferred.

What do you mean by spwangy?Thanks for actually responding (hehe) but I got roughly what I was looking for with a plain bass soundfont and some automated EQ. It's a bit messy but it works.

spwangy= Clean, hardly any trill or vibrato but possibly very slightly, some boosting of the middle-high frequencies especially near the beginning. Like a slap bass without the hardness and with more sustain, I guess.

[RoeTaKa]

I have pretty much the same question as Hadyn. Except with ST2, I don't like to open different channels for it as it does really slow down the computer and it gets hard to mix after a while. So how do you have different piano rolls for instruments with only one ST2 channel?

[Internecivus Raptus]

Im looking for some heavy, clean hitting drums, sort of Industrial like, anyone know where I dig some up? :wink:

[RoeTaKa]

Im looking for some heavy, clean hitting drums, sort of Industrial like, anyone know where I dig some up? :wink:

Can't you just add a distortion effect (like FL's blood overdrive) and EQ it correctly whilst putting in notes at probably half their velocity? Not sure if it works but it sounds right in my head.

I'm sure there are some good thick sounding drumkits on hammersound or somewhere that could work with this effects trick.

[Internecivus Raptus]

Thanks, Ill try it out :)

Never thought about Overdrive...:oops:

[Echo2K4]

OK, I dunno how many people will be into this, but I thought I'd share, cuz it's 2! 2! 2 VSTs in one handy runtime executable!

Yes, It's the Nokia Audio Suite 1.1. To make a long story short, it's a VST that emulates the sound almost every modern Nokia cell-phone (even the N-Gage).

It has two VST's, one is the tone-generation (or PCM MIDI) portion, and the other VST is a SPEAKER MODELLER. Yes, if you want a crazy effect, THIS IS IT.

Try it out, according to MusicThing (http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_musicthing_archive.html):

The plugins are free. Registration involves two separate email confirmations, but they don't seem to care who you are.

http://forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,034-62,00.html


Useless? Definitely. Cool? Absolutely.


EDIT: Dunno how well it works oustside of Cubase. X__X

[andyjayne]

I'm looking for a free VSTi soundfont player that can do slides and pitchbends (and modulation if possible).

I currently use sfz but it doesn't seem to work with the slides and pitchbends I use in my midi track.

Cheers,

Andy

[JamesXIIC]

I have pretty much the same question as Hadyn. Except with ST2, I don't like to open different channels for it as it does really slow down the computer and it gets hard to mix after a while. So how do you have different piano rolls for instruments with only one ST2 channel?

If you is talking about ST2 and FL Studio I can help ya, a'ight? :P

It's pretty simple but there is one disadvantage I can't get myself around. See when you load ST2 each sound has a channel number? Far, far left of the ST2 interface, usually 1-16?

Say you put a guitar in channel one and a bass on channel two as below.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/OriginalJambo/HelpLow1-new.jpg


Now there is a box in the RIGHT UPPER corner called port? Set the port to "x", i.e. a number you want. In this case 1.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/OriginalJambo/HelpLow2-new.jpg

In this picture the channel is linked to the guitar, (MIDI channel 1 on port 1 as set in Sampletank). Therefore all the piano roll for this channel will play notes from the Sampletank guitar on MIDI channel 1.

To set up the bass guitar on MIDI channel 2, port 1 just make another "MIDI Out" channel like before but change the "MIDI channel" to 2 instead of 1 like before, as pictured now. The piano roll will now represent the Sampletank bass.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/OriginalJambo/HelpLow3-new.jpg

Hope this helps. :)


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[ArseAssassin]

I recently got ReFX Vanguard and I'm pretty happy with it so far. There's one problem, though: it always lets out this annoying sound that sounds a bit like a filter squeak. It can't be the filter though, as I've tried opening up the filter completely and it just wouldn't go away. Even all the presets have the same problem, which seems quite odd. Now, it's not too annoying, because most of the time it easily drowns in the mix, but I'd like to get rid of it completely.

Check out this sample. (http://personal.inet.fi/urheilu/fsf/filter%20squeak.mp3) Anyone else encountered this problem and maybe know how to solve it?

[RoeTaKa]

JamesXIIC - That really helped, thanks mate.

As I'm posting, I find it annoying that I can't have fun reversing samples in ST2. I can't seem to find any function that allows you to do this in ST2 and FL only lets you do it with wav samples. Is there perhaps a VST of some sort that could do this? I don't know if that's even possible.

My only other solution is to write a certain part backwards, save it as a wav and reverse it in sound recorder and put it back into the mix, but that wastes so much time and so much pointless effort.

I'm also looking for a decent free vocoder VST, anyone know of one?

[The13thAce]

Has anyone used or use Ultra Focus? I've heard good things about it and i'm wondering how it compares to like Absynth or Zeta, etc.

[Synth]

I'm looking for a good free vst. Something with atlot of power.

[LooPKiD]

Maybe a stupid question, but is ST2 a free plugin? or should you pay for it? If it is free, can someone point me out to a spot where I can find it?

Thnx in advance..

[OverCoat]

I'm looking for a good free vst. Something with a lot of power.

"Something with a lot of power" is pretty vague.

So I'll link you to a bunch of free industrial synths.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=d&c=208

LooPKiD, I'm sorry to say, SampleTank 2 is not free.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/28.html

There is a "Sampletank Free" you can get but it's limited

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/141.html

[JamesXIIC]

JamesXIIC - That really helped, thanks mate.

As I'm posting, I find it annoying that I can't have fun reversing samples in ST2. I can't seem to find any function that allows you to do this in ST2 and FL only lets you do it with wav samples. Is there perhaps a VST of some sort that could do this? I don't know if that's even possible.

My only other solution is to write a certain part backwards, save it as a wav and reverse it in sound recorder and put it back into the mix, but that wastes so much time and so much pointless effort.

I'm also looking for a decent free vocoder VST, anyone know of one?

Fruity Loops has a Vocoder in it man....just to let you know. It's an effect though but it's pretty good (128 band one). Look up the "Vocoder" template on FL Studio and it should show you how to use it. If not I'll happily try and explain. :)

As for reversing Sampletank samples I think you are just gonna have to do the WAV dumps unfortunately. I don't think there will be a free VST that can do that for you. I doubt most VST samplers come with WAV editing abilities.

I'm glad that my advice helped you sort out Sampletank 2 though. ;)

[Meteo Xavier]

OK, I needs some help.

I thought I could do well with good, free soundfonts, but now I am at the point where I need professional grade instruments to play on Fruity Loops 4. Does not have to be the greatest, most finely tuned virtual instruments in the world (not the $900 orchestral bundle with 6,000 samples with minor sonic differences etc.) but something where I can get a large quantity of pianos, guitars, organs, synths, strings, pads, effects, drums etc. that are a good cut above the soundfont range of quality for around $150 or so.

Any ideas....? Thanks.

[LooPKiD]

So I got the Trial version of "Izotope's Ozone"
Unfortunetely im very poor and can't afford that prog. for myself. :cry:

So im wondering if there are any free Vst(i)'s out there that are a bit similar or near the capabilities of Ozone.. .

Hope you guys can help..

Thnx in advance..

[GeckoYamori]

I need a good, free noise gate.

[Zoola]

OK, I needs some help.

I thought I could do well with good, free soundfonts, but now I am at the point where I need professional grade instruments to play on Fruity Loops 4. Does not have to be the greatest, most finely tuned virtual instruments in the world (not the $900 orchestral bundle with 6,000 samples with minor sonic differences etc.) but something where I can get a large quantity of pianos, guitars, organs, synths, strings, pads, effects, drums etc. that are a good cut above the soundfont range of quality for around $150 or so.

Any ideas....? Thanks.
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=EW-161
Awesome for orchestral. Have it, love it.

[Meteo Xavier]

Oh yeah, and I need a decent reverse cymbal sound, something makes a swelling crish sound so I can go into different song parts.

[Splunkle]

@ Meteo Xavier: Well, you could just get a cymbal sound and reverse it. Fruity Sampler can do this for you, just tick the "Reverse" checkbox in the plugin tab. If you don't use Fruity, well, I'm sure your wave editor of choice can do it.

[andyjayne]

Edit: Got the advice I wanted from IRC. Thanks, zircon.

[DDRage]

OK I was looking at some screenshots from Garritan Personal Orchestra and saw that there seem to be 3 separate groups of instruments: Wet, Dry and Multis. Multis seem to be like groups of preset instruments but wet and dry have the same instruments?! What's the difference??

[Splunkle]

Well, I have no idea about GPO, but Wet and Dry are often used refering to the output of FX units: wet is the processed ouput, and dry is the unprocessed output. No idea if that helps, but maybe it give you a clue.

[OverCoat]

Wet is probably like reverb and chorus built in, and dry is just straight samples

[DDRage]

I thought that too, maybe they refer by dry to the signal w/o reverb and the other w/reverb?? :? :?

[Hy Bound]

Hey guys, I recently got Ableton 5.0 and I really want to use it for some new synthesizers and such. Since I have basically just used Reason for synths I have no idea what kind of VST to get. Can anyone point me in the direction of a free vsti resembling (at least loosely) the maelstrom or something like that? Also, a good limiter is second on my "to get" list, but I cant find one I like. Any help is greatly appreciated. :)

[Compyfox]

www.kvraudio.com

Look for the one who made the "Maelstrom" synth, I'm sure he made a VSTi or something like that. Also use the search function there for tons of limiters.

[Hy Bound]

Thanks man. I was able to find a couple good ones. :D

[Compyfox]

May I ask which synth you found?

[Hy Bound]

Well, it really wasnt a graintable synth, but I was able to find "plugsound" which is a granular synthesizer. I also found "Neokiller-II." And a buzroom limiter.

[Hy Bound]

Sorry to double post, but does anyone have or have used Z3TA+? It looks friggin awesome, but I hear it isn't as amazing as you'd think... :?

[OverCoat]

Sorry to double post, but does anyone have or have used Z3TA+?

I use it for both basses [I think] in Path-ology. At least one of the bass sounds. It's actually really cool, I don't know what kind of fuckknob said it wasn't that great.

[realpolitik]

Sorry to double post, but does anyone have or have used Z3TA+? It looks friggin awesome, but I hear it isn't as amazing as you'd think... :?

i'll just say that its versatility is a tradeoff.

if you're looking to make trance, its only real forte is bass.

other than that, the synth leads are kinda weak. nice arps, though.

[Kittie Rose]

I need an analog snth VST that can do the "Jump" sound. I think Oberon is what I'm looking for(presuming Oberon is a play on Oberheim) but I can't find it anywhere, link is down on main site.

[Jens Wulvik]

Sorry to double post, but does anyone have or have used Z3TA+? It looks friggin awesome, but I hear it isn't as amazing as you'd think... :?
Would a demo help you?? The bass and leads on this:
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=38603
...song is from Z3TA+!!! I've composed this song myself

[zircon]

The synth used in "Jump" was a big ol' Oberheim OB-Xa. Oberheims were analog synths capable of the most monstrous, earth-shaking basses around.. many people consider them to be even better at that than Moog synths. Anyway, the patch itself is more or less a simple subtractive patch that can be replicated on any good VA synth (even Superwave P8 I think has a Jump patch, could be wrong). However for the exact Oberheim sound you're out of luck. There are no synth emulations of them because of licensing issues.

[sgx]

Sorry to double post, but does anyone have or have used Z3TA+? It looks friggin awesome, but I hear it isn't as amazing as you'd think... :?
Would a demo help you?? The bass and leads on this:
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=38603
...song is from Z3TA+!!! I've composed this song myself

rRarrrag. Clipping!

z3ta is cool. Rene's (developer of z3ta, dimension, pentagon, sfz, etc) new synth Rapture just came out and it looks hella awesome. He posts in some forums like the cakewalk forums and KVR and he keeps saying stuff like "this is the FATTEST softsynth ever made" and he's usually pretty reserved about boasting about his works. Take that for what its worth. Might wanna check that one out. You can load your own waveforms into it and use em as oscillators. Badass.

[ReMiX]

Can someone hook me up with instruments such as saxophones, trumpets, bass guitar, like a jazz set.

Thanks!

[zircon]

Try Garritan Jazz & Big Band. Probably the only library of its kind oriented towards that kind of sound.

[Chavous]

This is the most beautiful electric piano I have ever heard, and I feel the urge to share it.

http://www.soundfonts.it/?a=read&b=20

MrTramp is a Wurlitzer® Electric Piano model 200 simulation.
It's a physical model, that means that all the sound you hear is 100% generated in real time. No samples at all!
It features all the nuances and colorations of the real instrument, such as the noise of the hammers, the noise of the dampers, certain inconsistences between a note and the next one. The last 5 notes (from G#6 to C7) don't have dampers so they're not stopped when the respective keys are released.
Features a built-in tremolo with adjustable intensity, fixed at 6 Hz.

[Yartek]

Just wanted to say thanks for this topic. I've just switched from samples to VSTs and it's been a great help in finding some fantastic instruments.

[Hy Bound]

Im really sorry if this has been answered before, but does anyone know of a good *free* compressor thats especially good at sidechaining or at least has it. The only one I've found is on kvraudio and doesn't work with Ableton... I think its just called "sidechain compressor" and is made by a japanese company.

[Compyfox]

Slim Slow Slider Sidechain Compressor...
Well... it's in VST standard and should work everywhere. If it doesn't in Live, then you're screwed.

Here (http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.kvraudio.com&sitesearch=www.kvraudio.com&client=pub-4940772458602699&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B VLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3 A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000% 3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1%3B&q=inurl:get+sidechain) might be a good starting point for you. But don't expect to get everything for free. Sidechaining is not mandatory, it's more like a bonus feature.

But before you say that Ableton can't use the Slim Slow Slider plugins you should ask yourself if Ableton is even able of using sidechain plugins. Cubase needs some special treatment, but it is possible. If you're a registered user, you might also take a look at the Ableton boards.

[Hy Bound]

Yeah, I know how to sidechain, I've looked through the manual and it says the compressor that comes with it doesn't do sidechaining. I also do know how to sidechain with Ableton, but I just need a compressor that sidechains, which I think you just showed me. Thanks.

[Miku]

I can't for the life of me figure out where to find or how to produce drum sounds on par with something you might hear in say an Infected Mushroom track. If you're not familiar, I'm going for sort of a goa-psy trance thing.
Anyone have any tips / links / etc. that might help me?

[Someone]

Hi, I was curious if any of you know of a VST instrument designed specifically to emulate instruments used in Final Fantasy games?

I'm sorry if this question is out of place, annoying, or something I could have found in remixing 101 (I did bother to run some searches).

Thanks!

[Jens Wulvik]

Hi, I was curious if any of you know of a VST instrument designed specifically to emulate instruments used in Final Fantasy games?

I'm sorry if this question is out of place, annoying, or something I could have found in remixing 101 (I did bother to run some searches).

Thanks!
I got one expensive, and one free option for you!!!
You can buy Garritan Orchestra or Edirol Orchestral, are using Edirol O. myself, it sounds great!! If you want something free, then get yourself RGCaudio SFZ, a soundfont-playing VST. Get it here:
www.rgcaudio.com/sfz.htm
And then go to hammersound and download a soundfont called "S J Orchestral GM", it sounds great as well!!!
I'll give you some samples here:
First one using the soundfont
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=71563
..and this is the edirol O.
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=71564

EDIT: There is also some Final Fantasy soundfonts on www.zophar.net

[the prophet of mephisto]

halloo all.

so, after my hard drive crashed a while back, i lost some very useful plugins that i really need.

does anyone have:

Sun Ra (elogoxa)
The Devil Inside (elogoxa)
Delay Llama (elogoxa)

i'd get them from the site, but they closed up and i can't find them on the net anywhere. i very specifically need Sun Ra - i've got several files that need it for me to be able to work on stuff.

thanks for your help. a yousendit link would be perfect, if anyone's got them.

[Q.K.]

Hey, I'm just wondering. I've looked around, but I can't find any free electric guitar VSTs. I suppose I could always pay, but if there ARE any free ones that sound relatively good, would you letting me know? Thanks.

[the prophet of mephisto]

Hey, I'm just wondering. I've looked around, but I can't find any free electric guitar VSTs. I suppose I could always pay, but if there ARE any free ones that sound relatively good, would you letting me know? Thanks.

don't quote me on this, but i haven't found any. look into good guitar soundfonts - they're easier to find, and tend to be easier to work with because they automate easily (in fruity, at least).

[MaliceX]

You're better off using a Guitar sampler and a GOOD guitar amp plugin. (ie: MusicLab RealGuitar 2, with NI Guitar Rig 2 or IK Multimedia Amplitube)

[sadpickle the exalted]

Okay so, noob question. I know how to use VSTi's, but for some reason I can't seem to get effect plugins to work in FLStudio 6. I threw two (dblue's Glitch VST and Magnus's Ambience VST) in the "\Plugins\Fruity\Effects" directory. Then I open up the FX window (the one with all the channels), click "Select > More", do a fast scan to bring them up, the click the checkboxes.

Okay, so now they're in the list. But when I try to add them I get this error message:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/157/untitled0lw.gif

No wrapper pop up or anything. So what am I doing wrong here? I've never used third-party effects plugins before so I'm not sure what the problem is.

[DDRage]

Okay so, noob question. I know how to use VSTi's, but for some reason I can't seem to get effect plugins to work in FLStudio 6. I threw two (dblue's Glitch VST and Magnus's Ambience VST) in the "\Plugins\Fruity\Effects" directory. Then I open up the FX window (the one with all the channels), click "Select > More", do a fast scan to bring them up, the click the checkboxes.

Okay, so now they're in the list. But when I try to add them I get this error message:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/157/untitled0lw.gif

No wrapper pop up or anything. So what am I doing wrong here? I've never used third-party effects plugins before so I'm not sure what the problem is.

try moving the plugins to the steinberg/vst plugins directory

[DDRage]

Ok ppl I really need ur help. I found a plugin that would be really useful for me and fits like a glove in my current project, but it's a MFX plugin and I'm currently using FL Studio.

Is there any possible way to use it? Wrapper? Convertor?

[OverCoat]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/157/untitled0lw.gif

try moving the plugins to the steinberg/vst plugins directory

I highly recommend storing your samples and VST/DX outside the FL Studio install directory. I don't even have to tell you why, it's just better if you use more than one program, or even just FL, so they're a lot easier to find.

For example, all my VSTs and DXs are in C:\VST-DX\

[sadpickle the exalted]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/157/untitled0lw.gif

try moving the plugins to the steinberg/vst plugins directory

I highly recommend storing your samples and VST/DX outside the FL Studio install directory. I don't even have to tell you why, it's just better if you use more than one program, or even just FL, so they're a lot easier to find.

For example, all my VSTs and DXs are in C:\VST-DX\

I don't know why but, that solved the problem. Thanks bunches.

[realpolitik]

I can't for the life of me figure out where to find or how to produce drum sounds on par with something you might hear in say an Infected Mushroom track. If you're not familiar, I'm going for sort of a goa-psy trance thing.
Anyone have any tips / links / etc. that might help me?

hit me up on aim/msn for some goa-psy-style kicks, i have a bunch.

add a 303 emulator and some pwm shit and youre good.

[suzumebachi]

hmm... i just had an idea... if sgtrama ain't totally opposed to the idea i could set up some community sample hosting at thasauce, so mixers and wannabes can upload free samples/vst/dx and shit to share with people.

[Splunkle]

hmm... i just had an idea... if sgtrama ain't totally opposed to the idea i could set up some community sample hosting at thasauce, so mixers and wannabes can upload free samples/vst/dx and shit to share with people.

That would be +10, but one would have to be careful with hosting what VSTs. Just because its free doesn't mean one is allowed to distribute it.

[DDRage]

Ok ppl I really need ur help. I found a plugin that would be really useful for me and fits like a glove in my current project, but it's a MFX plugin and I'm currently using FL Studio.

Is there any possible way to use it? Wrapper? Convertor?

*bump*

[Compyfox]

Use Sonar, or find an alternative. Cause there's neither a converter, nor a wrapper.

[suzumebachi]

there IS a wrapper for Cubase available somewhere, but it doesn't work for shit and last I checked it wasn't even being supported anymore.

[DDRage]

crap

thx anyways for the response

[Ramaniscence]

hmm... i just had an idea... if sgtrama ain't totally opposed to the idea i could set up some community sample hosting at thasauce, so mixers and wannabes can upload free samples/vst/dx and shit to share with people.

We have space and bandwidth to burn...you know that.

[Compyfox]

there IS a wrapper for Cubase available somewhere, but it doesn't work for shit and last I checked it wasn't even being supported anymore.

Only worked "Partially" with SX1 and was discontinued for futher versions.

[DDRage]

Ok just tried the MFX wrapper and FL Studio doesn't even recognise it as a VST, so crap.

Do you know of any VST/DX thingy that will allow me to map a CCxx from my midi input device to a CCyy (where xx and yy are channel numbers ). For example when I play a key instead of sending the "velocity" signal, sending for example the "pitch wheel" signal or controlling a filter cutoff and such.

[Compyfox]

Why doesn't anybody believe me when I say it doesn't work?

DDRage:
Ever tried Tobybear plugins? They have VSTi converters. Also look over at KVR, they have ton of that crap.

[Xelebes]

It can be done with mith most VSTi. Read up your keyboard's manual.

[DDRage]

It can be done with mith most VSTi. Read up your keyboard's manual.

my "keyboard" is a casio privia, whose cc channels i had to find out by myself because the casio people haven't a clue as to the workings of their keyboards. Sorry for the weird style, but it just came out of me :P

[Compyfox]

Could have been done easier:
Tobybear CC# Monitor. Simple and clean.

[DDRage]

Could have been done easier:
Tobybear CC# Monitor. Simple and clean.

I can't seem to find that plugin in Tobybear's site nor in KvR. What I managed to find is a plugin called cc mapper but it's only available as a bundled plugin in Minihost. Is it the same plugin?

[Compyfox]

Must have shuffled that with the Kondor plugin.
http://www.tobybear.de/images/ss_kondor.jpg

But I'm fairly sure I've seen a MIDI monitor over at KVR under "Utilities" (VST). You just have to look.So much crap out there, there surely is one among that.

[dgxdx]

which soundfont or other sound file of drumkit likes a Rock Band style?

i mean, when u r listening Green Day, the drum sounds, especailly the snare that i want to make.

i 've tried other drumkit file, no one likes that band sound

[Splunkle]

DGXDX: I know you are using FL studio, so I'll tell you that you can get some nice rock drum sounds out of FPC, provided you get the effects right. Try putting some very light distortion on the snare, compressing the kick drum a lot, and makign sure the EQ setting on the cymbals - especially the ride - are right. Then make sure you have your velocity settings right, and you should get some nice rock sounds.

NS_kit7 is very nice, though rather large. Just google it to find it.

[Jens Wulvik]

which soundfont or other sound file of drumkit likes a Rock Band style?

i mean, when u r listening Green Day, the drum sounds, especailly the snare that i want to make.

i 've tried other drumkit file, no one likes that band sound
Try this one:http://www.sf2midi.com/index.php?page=sdet&id=7951, it's the best acoustic drum-soundfont I've heard.

[dgxdx]

which soundfont or other sound file of drumkit likes a Rock Band style?

i mean, when u r listening Green Day, the drum sounds, especailly the snare that i want to make.

i 've tried other drumkit file, no one likes that band sound
Try this one:http://www.sf2midi.com/index.php?page=sdet&id=7951, it's the best acoustic drum-soundfont I've heard.

atfer i input the sf2 file, why i can't hear any sound even i click on the virtual keyboard in FLs?

[dgxdx]

DGXDX: I know you are using FL studio, so I'll tell you that you can get some nice rock drum sounds out of FPC, provided you get the effects right. Try putting some very light distortion on the snare, compressing the kick drum a lot, and makign sure the EQ setting on the cymbals - especially the ride - are right. Then make sure you have your velocity settings right, and you should get some nice rock sounds.

NS_kit7 is very nice, though rather large. Just google it to find it.

so, if i use this drum kit, i still have to add some effect to make it Rock?

also, how can i separate the snare, kick drum etc. with different extent of effects in NS_kit7? is it input 2 times of NS_kit7 and each NS_kit7 is responsible snare and kick drum respectively?

[Splunkle]

dgxdx: Yes, you usually have to add effects to get a certain sound. If everyone used dry samples, everything would sound really boring. Also, the effects used can help to produce that sound you are giong for. Listen to the style of the music you are trying to produce, and think about the important points that make it sound like that. Then use your effects to make what samples you have available sound like that.

And yes, unless you have a soundfont player that can do multiple outputs, you will have to load up an instance of NS_kit7 for each FX channel you want. So if you want to process the kick, snare and cymbals differently, you would need 3 instances of kit7. Which will really hurt when it comes to RAM. =(

[Chavous]

atfer i input the sf2 file, why i can't hear any sound even i click on the virtual keyboard in FLs?

You have to change the bank preset to anything but 1.

Edit: The best kit I have ever heard is one that I have, called livekit7.

http://www.sf2midi.com/index.php?page=sdet&id=6472

The guy that recorded it did a graet job with his velocities.

[dgxdx]

i 've just download the VST file, but i don't know how to use it in FruityLoops. Can somebody helps me?

is it put in a channel to use? or treat as effect?

[Chavous]

^This should go into the FLStudio help thread...

Anyway, go to the toolbar up top, Channels > More... > Refresh (on the bottom, make sure your VST is in a VST folder).

[dgxdx]

i wonder which bass is the best for u guys, esp in FLs

in FLs, i don't really know which bass is more like a bass guitar. even i used the generator called bass guitar, the sound seems to be far away from the real bass guitar, which is rough and noise.

can somboday give me a suggestion of bass?

[Salluz]

i wonder which bass is the best for u guys, esp in FLs

in FLs, i don't really know which bass is more like a bass guitar. even i used the generator called bass guitar, the sound seems to be far away from the real bass guitar, which is rough and noise.

can somboday give me a suggestion of bass?
What style of music?