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XZero
07-15-2008, 08:10 PM
Wow... what a disappointment. For me, at least. There was so much more they could/should have done. What better way to show off the 1:1 controls with a new Zelda game or *gasp* a Mario Tennis Wii title? I may get that sports game, but none of the rest of the conference had anything appealing.

That's just me, though, so what did you all think?

Bleck
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Maybe they didn't show off a new Mario Tennis because they aren't making another Mario Tennis yet did you think about that

Blake
07-15-2008, 08:24 PM
That press conference sucked and that music game looked horrible : (

Jam Stunna
07-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Maybe they didn't show off a new Mario Tennis because they aren't making another Mario Tennis yet did you think about that

Are you just stupid or do you really try to look like an ass?

Poke'G
07-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Seriously, the last thing the Wii needs at the moment is another Mario sports title.

The fact that one wasn't announced I guess is a plus. But the Wii's roster is looking rather dry, and they failed to put anything new or exciting on the board.

Even the MotionPlus was only tacked onto yet another Wii tech demo passing off as a game.

Bleck
07-15-2008, 08:33 PM
Are you just stupid or do you really try to look like an ass?

I am pretty sure that they is not another Mario Tennis in development right now, if pointing this out makes me an ass then I accept it

Imagist
07-15-2008, 08:54 PM
The conference wasn't necessarily a total failure. I think we'll have to wait to see what "Wii Speak" and the new Animal Crossing look like before we can pass absolute judgment.

Calpis
07-15-2008, 09:04 PM
Is it just me or did it seem like they were trying too hard to convince everyone (or themselves) that the new WiiMotion thing is a really fun thing? It seems like it could open some more opportunities for better Wii games, but it just seemed like they themselves weren't even having that much fun showing it? This as opposed to bringing out a product that needs no convincing and the audience understands how fun it is just by watching. Back when it first was announced, I thought the Wii was gonna be like the next level in gaming and that playing with gamepads would feel caveman-ish in comparison but now It feels like they're taking a step back in gaming.

I am excited for Animal Crossing, but really nothing else though.

Edited for clarification and spelling

Penfold
07-15-2008, 09:48 PM
I'm curious to hear more about WiiMotion. Am I right in assuming it just basically refines the use of the accelerometer? I think it's a good thing that can then both tighten up controls which use that function, and also make other controls (1:1 motion) viable. I really liked Wii Sports, so I know I'm going to be getting WiiMotion with Wii Sports Resort. I'm looking forward to trying out WiiMotion with older games as well, to see if it does tighten up those controls or if works differently. I will most likely get Animal Crossing, since it sounds like it could be fun (having never played a game in the series before).

A thought I have is, are they going to make a "nunchuk 2.0" now using whatever tech from WiiMotion? In my experience, it's the nunchuk's motion control that has always been very hit-and-miss; unless all you have to do is shake it (and in not any specific direction), it's not a viable control method.

Anyway, no hard drive/storage solution announcement suprised me, no Pikmin 3 announcement was a downer, and I'm a bit concerned about titles like Disaster being off the radar. All in all this press conference was rather disappointing, but at least games like the new Wario have already been announced so we know some good stuff is coming down the pipeline.

DarkeSword
07-15-2008, 09:58 PM
We've got a WiiMotion thread guys. Let's not duplicate discussions.

Nobinsor
07-15-2008, 10:55 PM
I can only say this: at several times during the press conference, I found myself booing at the television.

Way to go Nintendo, I bought your console for No More Heroes and the Virtual Console. Boo.


Edit: I suppose I can be excited about the Wii Speak. I can flail my arms around AND yell at my television; all the while, people can complain about having to hear my muffled voice over the sounds of my dog barking at my washing machine.

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-15-2008, 10:58 PM
The only thing I heard the whole time during that entire conference was "sales sales sales sales sales sales sales we rock we rock we rock sales sales sales double double double."

Huge disappointment. Of course, with all the bombshells Microsoft was dropping, it's gonna be hard to compete, and don't get me started on the massive failure that was the Sony press conference.

Bleck
07-15-2008, 11:04 PM
Of course, with all the bombshells Microsoft was dropping,

halo gears of war halo halo mii ripoff ffxiii

DarkeSword
07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
I think my biggest problem with their showing this year is that even though they've continually said in the past that "we're committed to the core gamer," they're not really backing that up. They didn't show off a single game aimed at the "core gamer" crowd.

They're sitting on this amazing piece of technology with all this motion sensing stuff, and I truly believe it's innovative and what the industry needs and all that, but you know what? They're getting lazy. They've got this new 1:1 tech and they're giving us another WiiSports game. They're giving us a game where you can play frisbee with a dog. To quote Lewis Black: What the fuck?!

Come on Nintendo! You introduce 1:1 tech, at the very least give us something like Link's Master Sword Training! Something with higher production values than another Wii Sports game, because while Wii Sports was a great, low-cost way to introduce people to the concept, it's not something they should be relying on as a franchise.

And it's not just the 1:1 stuff that makes me mad; it's that Nintendo is just resting on their laurels right now and not bringing any more compelling software to the table. Wii Music? Wii Sports Resort? This isn't compelling stuff. This is 1st Party Shovelware.

Gotdamnit Nintendo, shape it up. I love your systems, but you're not giving me any games to play on them!

Israfel
07-16-2008, 12:26 AM
The conference was certainly underwhelming. I'm excited about Wii Sports Resort, Animal Crossing and the MotionPlus, but I'm very much concerned about Wii Music. Honestly though, my main problem is just that so little was shown. Although, I guess it was a deliberate decision on Nintendo's part--there's plenty that we know about that they could have shown, they just chose not to for some reason. I get the impression that Nintendo was using the conference to target the mainstream press, which is fine, but it did make for a less interesting show.

Penfold
07-16-2008, 12:35 AM
I get the impression that Nintendo was using the conference to target the mainstream press, which is fine, but it did make for a less interesting show.

That's a really good point. There are always other opportunities to target the "core gamer," as they love saying, but big events like this are the prime times to capture the attention of those who don't read IGN.

The Damned
07-16-2008, 12:42 AM
OK, having watched all three conferences, I can honestly say this year was the most boring I've seen in five years.

All any of them did was announce things that were obvious or already announced. Nintendo's biggest surprise was, I think, the GTA game for the DS. Hardly what I was expecting, but nothing I really care about. Maybe Wii Sports Beach, but I'd have to try it first.

Sony didn't drop any bombs so much as they gently loaded them onto a crane and lowered them safely onto a pillow. I could have sworn I heard about MAG some time ago (and it looked very pre-renderd as it was). Another God of War? You don't say! More Resistance? O-M-G, indeed! Sony is starting to be like Nintendo: get a series going and just release another sequel every so often. Oh, and could they say "only possible on PS3" and "exclusive for PS3" enough? I lost count after the first barrage of clips.

MS had the only real surprise (FF13), and even that wasn't too big a deal. It's not the first time SE has produced for other systems, and once the details came out, it made sense.

Honestly, the floor show needs to have something really good in order to get some attention. But from here on in, it's more previously announced titles and whatever little companies found room in the back.

Color me disappointed this year...

Maybe TGS or even a sudden Space World later this year will show us something?

JH Sounds
07-16-2008, 12:52 AM
To quote Lewis Black: What the fuck?!

Did you really have to quote Lewis Black for that?

DarkeSword
07-16-2008, 01:27 AM
Did you really have to quote Lewis Black for that?
Yes, because he has a very specific way of saying it. :tomatoface:

JCvgluvr
07-16-2008, 02:57 AM
You're flippen' kidding me! THAT'S ALL NINTENDO HAD TO SHOW?! Where's Kirby, F-Zero, new Zelda or even other games I don't care about like Star Fox and Pikmin?!

Bad form Nintendo. Bad form.

The Damned
07-16-2008, 03:01 AM
The conferences are basically each company's chance to wow the shit out of everybody. That obviously didn't happen this year. Now all that's left is the floor show. That's where we get news on games in development. Sure, we aren't going to get any mega-awesome surprises now, but at least we get details and updates about games we knew are coming out soon.

Maybe next year will have something.

Bigfoot
07-16-2008, 03:33 AM
I was really hoping he was going to announce an F-Zero title since he mentioned about the tune he was playing was from F-Zero.

No talk of Virtual Console games/Wii Ware or another Metroid(I can hope..) :\

The only thing I liked is the 1:1 motion and Animal Crossing Wii.

Hale-Bopp
07-16-2008, 04:11 AM
Anyone remember when Brawl was announced at the end of E3 last year? There's still hope...

SirChadlyOC
07-16-2008, 04:17 AM
This thread needs more Punch-Out!! love. I don't have Wii Fit or the balance board, but now I'm thinking about buying it all over again.

Poke'G
07-16-2008, 04:22 AM
No talk of Virtual Console games/Wii Ware...

I'm hoping some neat stuff shows up on the floor show. It won't make up for the let down felt today, but it could help having some amazing Wii Ware titles to look forward too post Mega Man 9.

RedTigrr
07-16-2008, 04:37 AM
So far, the only Wii game that I've enjoyed (and kept for that matter) was No More Heroes. So far Nintendo has left a bad taste in my mouth with what's been released... and yes that does include SSBM.

I'm hoping that all changes this fall.... but from the sounds of things, it's looking like I'm gonna continue to be disappointed so far.

PlastikBag
07-16-2008, 04:42 AM
This year would have been a lot better if they didn't announce shit like Prince of Persia and Beyond Good and Evil 2 until e3. Or maybe even Megaman 9, or Chrono Trigger. I guess that most of the good games this year are third party multi-console games though, and it really wouldn't be appropriate to announce that stuff there.

Anyway, shame on Nintendo. I'm starting to get fed up with them.

Soma
07-16-2008, 06:58 AM
I'm so disapointed with nintendo. my wii hasn't been plugged up since the week after brawl came out.

Dhsu
07-16-2008, 07:01 AM
If Brawl isn't enough to satisfy you guys, you should probably just sell your Wii now.

Bigfoot
07-16-2008, 07:04 AM
I'm seriously wondering how much longer the Wii is going to last.

RedTigrr
07-16-2008, 07:08 AM
If Brawl isn't enough to satisfy you guys, you should probably just sell your Wii now.

Well here's the thing: I never liked the SSB series to begin with. It was just meh to me. It's cute for about 15-30 minutes. After that, time to find something else to play.

Dhsu
07-16-2008, 07:11 AM
Well then you bought the wrong system.

I'm seriously wondering how much longer the Wii is going to last.
You'll be wondering a long time if sales are any indication!

GenericDerrick
07-16-2008, 07:16 AM
It's actually kind of funny, I was more psyched when I watched the MS Conference than when I watched the Nintendo one. I don't even have a freakin' 360 either.



I'm contemplating buying one now though...

:<

JCvgluvr
07-16-2008, 08:08 AM
If Brawl isn't enough to satisfy you guys, you should probably just sell your Wii now.

Don't be absurd. It takes more than one good game to maintain a game console!

GenericDerrick, it'll be the best gaming decision you've ever made. Xbox Wii60 is the way to go!

Dhsu
07-16-2008, 08:22 AM
Don't be absurd. It takes more than one good game to maintain a game console!
But when you don't even like the best game a console has to offer so far, it's a good sign you won't like anything else down the line either.

I-n-j-i-n
07-16-2008, 08:25 AM
halo gears of war halo halo mii ripoff ffxiii

Add Prince of Persia, Saints Row 2, Fallout 3, Mirror's Edge, and just about every relevant 3rd party games out there.

I want Nintendo and Microsoft to merge already. Nintendo stuff and casual stuff + the 3rd parties and hardcore stuff. I think it's pretty obvious that the two sides are really missing the other piece of the puzzle.

Oh and btw, Wii Music does sound pretty good as long as it can properly utilize the 1:1 controls. That would've been impossible with the older, clunkier scheme.

Bigfoot
07-16-2008, 09:01 AM
Well then you bought the wrong system.


You'll be wondering a long time if sales are any indication!

That's why I'm wondering. It's selling, but how long is it going to please people? You already hear the constant gripe of gamers saying that there's hardly any appealing games for the Wii, and all that's coming out is lame party games.

When I see things like Wii Fit, Wii Sports and Wii Music, I see those games are something you can just easily pick up and play. That's it. They'll entertain you for maybe 20 mins, and then you're done until the next time you're bored or whatever.

Wintermute
07-16-2008, 09:19 AM
As someone eloquently put it:

Nintendo may be using E3 time to appeal to the casual game crowd because it has such large press coverage. Casual gamers are more likely to hear about things at E3 than anywhere else, and that's the demographic that is making Nintendo money right now. This doesn't mean that Nintendo isn't doing things for the core gamer too, but that they trust that they can announce those games any old time and those of us who are interested will find the news through our usual online sources, rather than having to hear about it during a massive mediafest.

Makes sense.

I hope it's true.

Dhsu
07-16-2008, 10:56 AM
You already hear the constant gripe of gamers saying that there's hardly any appealing games for the Wii, and all that's coming out is lame party games.
That's because the unhappy gamers are the ones making all the noise. :P

Nintendo is still and will continue doing well with its casual demographic.

Hale-Bopp
07-16-2008, 12:19 PM
The thing that concerns me is how overly casual some of Nintendo's games are getting on the Wii. For instance, Wii Music is looking much more like a showcase demo of what the system can do, as opposed to being a game that will engage players for hours and hours. The impression I get is that games like this and Wii Sports Resort are more like Electroplankton in that they're a neat little toy that distracts you for a few moments, but that's about it.

Avatar of Justice
07-16-2008, 12:32 PM
Well then you bought the wrong system.

I find it funny that the game that defines the Wii or whatever doesn't use the motion control factor. The innovation everyone thought would save gaming.

XZero
07-16-2008, 02:33 PM
I was watching a recent Angry VG Nerd episode this morning (Star Trek) where he tried everything to get the one Star Trek NES game to properly respond to his controller input (including verbally calling it a Piece of Shit and flipping it off). Perhaps Wii Speak will recognize when I swear at the unfairness that is Mario Kart Wii's item distribution and give me something good. When a game responds to verbal swears positively, then I'll be impressed.

I loved how the Sony rep at one point argued that they aren't trying to saturate the store shelves with games no one wants to play; it's an ironic statement given the PS2 and PS1 histories of really bad games (though the Wii is getting pretty close to that point now).

I-n-j-i-n
07-16-2008, 04:52 PM
The thing that concerns me is how overly casual some of Nintendo's games are getting on the Wii. For instance, Wii Music is looking much more like a showcase demo of what the system can do, as opposed to being a game that will engage players for hours and hours. The impression I get is that games like this and Wii Sports Resort are more like Electroplankton in that they're a neat little toy that distracts you for a few moments, but that's about it.

Worrisome if you're a hardcore gamer only. I think that's why so many gamers are saying 'nothing' really came out of Nintendo's E3 this year. I guess the casual gamers would be alright with it. Some addons are nice, but that's it. Not quite the march of games Microsoft has shown, or the software system overhauls both MS and Sony is promising.

Hale-Bopp
07-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Well, my thoughts are that they've already ensnared the casual audience. Those people are sold. They bought their Wiis or are already planning on getting one. So with that in mind, why not take it up a notch and give those people and the rest of us who do in fact enjoy casual and hardcore games and have already had their fill of Wii Sports, something with a bit more meat? Maybe Resort will surprise us, but I'm not holding my breathe, considering that what I saw at their conference was kind of underwhelming.

I am however really excited about the possibilities of 1:1 motion control with games. I wish they had taken their time demonstrating that with the sword fighting, instead of flailing their arms everywhere. It's hard to tell just how accurate the 1:1 motion was. I also would like to see head tracking integrated into games within the next year, hopefully sooner than later.

While this holiday season may not be everything I would personally hope for, I'm gonna try my best and practice patience and maybe even have a little faith that some developers out there, including Nintendo themselves, will fully deliver the goods on the things I mentioned above during this generation of gaming, instead of holding out for the next one.

I-n-j-i-n
07-17-2008, 08:00 AM
I still wonder why Nintendo should give a damn about the 3rd party. Because they were always Nintendo centric in their strategy and their whole "We are developing Mario/Zelda" was their 'big news', because they never develop those games. /sarcasm

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 12:31 AM
I find it funny that whenever I go to someone's house and play the wii, the best game is still the shooting gallery game from wiiware. What a joke of a system... Just goes to show that when you lower the bar to appeal to mom's and grandma's you get crap games or no games at all.

Bleck
07-18-2008, 12:47 AM
except for smash bros and twilight princess and metroid prime 3 and warioware and

Dhsu
07-18-2008, 12:48 AM
Hey, Eviltroll's back! :D

Edit: No More Heroes and Zak & Wiki and Boom Blox and Super Paper Mario and RE4 and

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 12:56 AM
only good game in that list is warioware

Penfold
07-18-2008, 01:03 AM
Mario Galaxy and LostWinds and Toki Tori and Okami and

(This is a fun game, can we do this in the other console-specific threads next? :P)

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 01:35 AM
smash bros more like button mash bros get a real fighting game
twighlight princess yay i can play the same exact game for the 50th time
zak & wiki just sounds gay
no more heroes more like no more thumbs from button mashing through mobs
metroid prime same game with shitty pointer controls yay
super paper mario lol mediocre
lostwinds looks nice plays shit
toki tori play it on your gba
re4 good game already played it on ps2/gamecube/etc
okami good game already played it on ps2

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-18-2008, 01:56 AM
smash bros more like button mash bros get a real fighting game
twighlight princess yay i can play the same exact game for the 50th time
zak & wiki just sounds gay
no more heroes more like no more thumbs from button mashing through mobs
metroid prime same game with shitty pointer controls yay
super paper mario lol mediocre
lostwinds looks nice plays shit
toki tori play it on your gba
re4 good game already played it on ps2/gamecube/etc
okami good game already played it on ps2

Pretty much.

I just keep wondering what happened to Nintendo.

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 02:16 AM
Pretty much.

I just keep wondering what happened to Nintendo.

they sell to non-gamers with the shallow wii tech demo games and satiate their core fans by churning out the same franchises over and over this time not even changing a single thing from the gamecube generation except tacking on craptacular waggle controls. they got lazy, and since they are making tons of money while being lazy, they don't give a shit.

CC Ricers
07-18-2008, 03:40 AM
This is a PRESS conference, and even though casual gamers don't follow E3, they do get their tidbits of news sometimes found in newspapers. That's what the press and investors are there for. So yeah, Nintendo is showing us how easily they're making money, and these new doodads and products are poised to make them a lot of money, whether they're aimed at us in particular or not.

On something more specific, I don't think the new Wii Sports was a convincing effort to show the benefits of 1:1 control. It didn't seem like much of a change.

Dhsu
07-18-2008, 03:53 AM
smash bros more like button mash bros get a real fighting game
twighlight princess yay i can play the same exact game for the 50th time
zak & wiki just sounds gay
no more heroes more like no more thumbs from button mashing through mobs
metroid prime same game with shitty pointer controls yay
super paper mario lol mediocre
lostwinds looks nice plays shit
toki tori play it on your gba
re4 good game already played it on ps2/gamecube/etc
okami good game already played it on ps2
how I trolled thread lol

(Seriously if you think Smash Bros is a button masher, that just means you're bad at it. Also "real fighting game"? Like KoF or SF? What's this about "same exact game for the 50th time" lol?)

Overflow
07-18-2008, 03:58 AM
they sell to non-gamers with the shallow wii tech demo games and satiate their core fans by churning out the same franchises over and over this time not even changing a single thing from the gamecube generation except tacking on craptacular waggle controls. they got lazy, and since they are making tons of money while being lazy, they don't give a shit.

Miyamoto said that there were going to be changes in the next Zelda game.

Also, it's a company's job to make money; often they don't care how they get it. Besides, there are many of us that enjoy the core franchises' familiar gameplay styles, me being one of them. (I also think that a futuristic Zelda would be cool, so I'm not one way or the other.)

Hector
07-18-2008, 04:11 AM
There's giving a legit complaint, and then there's whining.

Look at the industry statistics, creating a new genre or franchise is a very difficult and a risky endeavor. Many "new genre" games also fail dismally because people simply aren't sure about them. For this reason, most businesses try to stick to a core set of franchises or genres. The frequent alternative is to go after movie licenses. If you want new and original IPs, look for RPGs (which tend to rely on branding for success) or look to new companies that are starting from scratch. Considering that the big newsmakers are: Gears of War II, FFXIII, Resident Evil 5 and God of War III; I don't see how you can fault Nintendo.

As to these "tech demos", that is perhaps the best way to unveil a new gadget. Create a cheap game to package it with so it can readily be used, and ensure that that game shows off what can be done. If it were to release alongside a hard-core game, it would not gain as wide of a market penetration. Also, it is showing third-parties that they will be given a fair chance on their system (rather than Nintendo leveraging its system control to their advantage).

As to mere "waggle" controls; waggle controls are fun. And when I play a game like Halo, I wish a had a waggle control for clubbing my foes. It simply feels right.

Nohbody
07-18-2008, 04:24 AM
Is anyone turned off by the way they show people playing the games in wii commercials? Like this:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36536.html
he is so delighted to be holding a whit thingy and be playing games and woohoo yay for wii everybody!!!1
I hate the wii, this game's graphics look like something out of a flash ad saying shoot the bunny get a free iphone!!

Imagist
07-18-2008, 04:35 AM
oh boy is this thread dumb

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 04:43 AM
u guys got ...

troll'd

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-18-2008, 04:52 AM
I can see plenty of concepts that would work for a new Zelda game. That 1:1 motion attachment could seriously be used for some deep 3rd-person swordplay. I'm envisioning an idea of how the Wiimote could be used as a bow by holding down a button while pulling it away from the analog stick attachment and then releasing to the sound of a "thwip" from the controller's speaker.

The Wii still has plenty of room for awesome, it just hasn't achieved it yet.

Master_Yoshi
07-18-2008, 04:55 AM
Not to mention that with 1:1 controls the ideal of an awesome light saber game is not far off.

I am not sure how much wii owners realize this, but a realistic Star Wars game where all you do is fight with Lightsabers will attract so many new people it's insane. Or at least... that's what all my non-wii playing friends say.

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-18-2008, 05:01 AM
Well The Force Unleashed is coming up soon for the Wii, and Lucasarts got another company to handle the different ports of the game individually. From what I've seen thus far, they're trying to really incorporate the motion-sensing into the game, although it won't be using the 1:1 stuff. It seems ambitious, but it's a wait and see kind of thing.

I also agree that it's true that not all games for the system have to use the motion sensing, although when Nintendo is banking on it, well, they'd better deliver eventually. Once I see some stuff that makes me go "wow, I can't get this anywhere else!", then I'll be investing in the system.

So far it just seems like a souped up Gamecube to me.

JCvgluvr
07-18-2008, 07:02 AM
smash bros more like button mash bros get a real fighting game
twighlight princess yay i can play the same exact game for the 50th time
zak & wiki just sounds gay
no more heroes more like no more thumbs from button mashing through mobs
metroid prime same game with shitty pointer controls yay
super paper mario lol mediocre
lostwinds looks nice plays shit
toki tori play it on your gba
re4 good game already played it on ps2/gamecube/etc
okami good game already played it on ps2


Hey, hey. I just want to let you know that nobody is going to take your cute rambling seriously. You're a joke. And a bad one, at that!

Evilhead
07-18-2008, 07:39 AM
Hey, hey. I just want to let you know that nobody is going to take your cute rambling seriously. You're a joke. And a bad one, at that!

see my previous post


also mario 3 sucks

Dhsu
07-18-2008, 09:17 AM
No you.

SirChadlyOC
07-18-2008, 06:37 PM
...and Metroid and Mario Kart and Fire Emblem and Blast Works and...

JH Sounds
07-18-2008, 11:52 PM
*watches Wii Music remix of Super Mario Bros. by Shiggy and the Jets*

I love how they all jump at the end.

Jam Stunna
07-19-2008, 04:52 AM
In all seriousness, I find it pretty telling that the two most promising Wii games shown at E3 (Mad World and The Conduit) are still looking for publishers.

Overflow
07-19-2008, 05:54 AM
The conduit looks amazing. Nintendo should seriously be the publisher for it.
They developers (High Voltage, right?) said that they're trying to make it look like a 360 game, and from some the screenshots I've seen it sure looks pretty close.

Bigfoot
07-19-2008, 08:24 AM
Is The Conduit supposed to have online multi-player?

Jam Stunna
07-19-2008, 08:28 AM
Is The Conduit supposed to have online multi-player?

I believe they're aiming for 16-player online multi-player with voice chat.

Thylacine
07-19-2008, 09:36 AM
I believe they're aiming for 16-player online multi-player with voice chat.In other words, they're gradually building up to a console that can play WoW (or a WoW equivalent).

dfcentre
07-19-2008, 01:49 PM
Massive disappointments this year... i thought at first Wii Music would allow some awesome jam sessions but the we are told you are FAKING everything. The drums however seemed pretty cool to control and were the only thing worth my interest in the entire showing. Would I pay money for a virtual drumkit??? Maybe $5... it should be a WiiWare title.

The unveiling of GTA Chinatown Wars gave me a kinda scared, crappy feeling. This will NOT be the first time Rockstar make a toned down version of GTA for a handheld. They made one for the GBA and it just didn't sell. Maybe because it sucked.

First of all, the DS cartridge will not hold enough data to make the Chinatown Wars half decent. GTA games have hours and hours of audio and a crapload of textures, all of which will be left behind for the DS version which may even have subtitles instead. If Rockstar and Nintendo were REALLY serious about introducing the franchise to the Nintendo crowd then they should be releasing a boxset of GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas packaged together with a few bonus tidbits like new missions, a new radio station, and better lighting for GTAVC and GTA3.

As a person who has enjoyed the franchise on PC, Nintendo has always had the shortend of the stick purely due to storage issues. The GC discs couldn't hold San Andreas... but NOW the Wii discs can! It would be great to have the definitive classic collection complete with motion control to throw molotovs, hehe. I would buy that in a heartbeat. Instead we will have some lackluster silouette of a GTA game with a story probably as obsurd and crumby as True Crimes.

Was it just me, or did the snowboarding look kinda crumby. I mean, we had snowboarding in WiiFit so move on Nintendo! What about an update to Mario Kart Wii where the player can sit on the balance board and shift their weight for tighter cornering. You could leap over bigger traps by performing a jump motion etc.

What happened to WiiConnect24 and updating games with more functionality?

I feel like Nintendo are just gonna run out of gimmicks soon and then finally we'll have some awesome stuff.

I do hope that WiiSpeak will offer some kinda of telecommunication service for players to keep in touch easily with others players. It would be great to have a friend call you up on the Wii and your Wii Remote rings, then you press A to access a kind of VoIP service.

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-19-2008, 02:14 PM
You do realize all of that makes WAY too much since for Nintendo to actually do any of it.

dfcentre
07-19-2008, 02:58 PM
lol, I get that.

I know what Nintendo are planning with WiiMotionPlus... we'll see it at next years E3.

WiiPicted.

a drawing, painting game where you have painting precision and can share your artwork. You can make cartoons with your Miis by animating them with your own motions. The recording features will be identical to those used in the music video editor in WiiMusic. You'll be able to integrate music from WiiMusic into it and voice act through WiiSpeak too. Prolly shouldn't write this but fark I'm board and I maybe the competition will beat Nintendo to it and snap them out of this cycle.

JCvgluvr
07-19-2008, 07:56 PM
What about an update to Mario Kart Wii where the player can sit on the balance board and shift their weight for tighter cornering. You could leap over bigger traps by performing a jump motion etc.

I'm going to be frank, here. That's an absolutely terrible idea.

But I like your sig! :smile:

Bleck
07-19-2008, 08:16 PM
While I do agree that the Nintendo conference was lacking severely, more than half the posts here are basically saying 'it sucked because they didn't announce what I wanted'.

Come on guys, grow up.

Also fuck yeah Pikmin 3

Aninymouse
07-19-2008, 08:29 PM
pikmin 3 next year.

I heard Tales of Symphonia 2 might retail for $40. I'm all over that, baby!

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-19-2008, 09:00 PM
While I do agree that the Nintendo conference was lacking severely, more than half the posts here are basically saying 'it sucked because they didn't announce what I wanted'.

Come on guys, grow up.

Also fuck yeah Pikmin 3

I'm pretty sure it was because they didn't really announce anything other than a few glorified tech demos and an adapter that adds a function that should have been built into the system since day one.

Bleck
07-19-2008, 09:09 PM
a few glorified tech demos

Welcome to E3

Bigfoot
07-19-2008, 11:05 PM
Damn, The Conduit is looking pretty cool.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37292.html

Goosemeister
07-19-2008, 11:43 PM
I can't say I'm too wowed by E3 this year, although at the very least, it's nice to know they're making another Pikmin. I always liked Pikmin, especially when they removed the annoying time constraints for Pikmin 2. That and the new Animal Crossing sounds pretty cool. I just hope it can maintain my interest for a semi-decent amount of time. As much as I liked Kirby Super Star, I can't say if I'm interested in the new one if it'll feel like I've already played it.

(sarcasm) Oh yeah, and that Wii Music thing. Now I'll finally have the musical talent to hit the remixing scene! (/sarcasm)

Oh well...even if I didn't hear news of anything too exciting at E3 (For instance, an oh-so-unlikely Skies of Arcadia sequel, if they could do it justice, would make me pass out from excitement, although that'd be Sega, not Nintendo), it looks like there's some semi-interesting stuff coming down the line and at least I've got ToS: Dawn of the New World coming up before the end of the year.

dfcentre
07-20-2008, 05:04 AM
Bleck, its not a matter of saying, "it sucked because they didn't announce what I wanted". Its simply we can imagine Nintendo doing a lot better with the hardware they have and honestly the products they showed looked terribly boring. We are merely exploring the kind of things we think would've interested us, which is a lot better that just trolling on E3 and this forum.

I'm just glad that I'm enjoying GTA4 at a leisurely pace and will do the same with RE5. Stretching out a good game/story/world is one of my specialties (mostly cos I'm too busy, hehe). If the best Nintendo can do is Animal Crossing well that great but I just feel like "gimme a world I can walk around for hours and enjoy the visual beauty of the place too"! Only Super Mario Galaxy has made me enthused for Wii... apart from that I just don't feel terribly proud of having the console and it seems that a lot of guys are in the same boat... it doesn't leave a good taste in our mouths especially when the promise is there for great things. It is clear actual 'gamers' are at the back of Nintendos minds.

I was actually happy after last year's e3. I believed that the Wii Balance Board would open up a bevvy of new gameplay concepts and yeah did see the drum game happening. Great! Note that there are no pressure sensitive buttons on the Wii Remote... i honestly thought that Nintendo and thrid parties would use the new pressure sensitivity as it also frees up the thumbs.

Its been a year and not a major project. I've grown indifferent to my Wii as if it doesn't do much anymore. I'm no hater... just severly loosing interest. However, kinda happy that I don't need to spend cash :P

the conduit does seem cool, prolly not my cuppa tea anymore tho, but i am open to it.