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The Damned

07-22-2008, 03:51 PM

You should go read it. Even just flip through it.

As for the "is there room?" thing, The Watchmen was a different enough story that a movie of it would also be different enough to allow it a share of the currently saturated super-hero movie summer we live in.

If you haven't read it, you may want to just to familiarize yourself with the plot and characters. I can't see how a book with that much going on in it can come out as a movie without i either being cut back a lot, or 4 hours long.

sae

07-22-2008, 03:52 PM

When I saw this trailer in Dark Knight I heard that Smashing Pumpkins song and thought "Why would they remind me of the Batman & Robin movie right before seeing Dark Knight?

My brother just got the graphic novel, it's pretty ok so far.

Penfold

07-22-2008, 04:46 PM

Read half the graphic novel about 2 years ago, borrowing it from a coworker, but never finished cuz I got caught up with doing other things. Last week after seeing the trailer (and some of the film makers' video blog entries about Watchmen), I decided to finally buy my own copy and finish it. Very excited about this movie; it has a lot of potential, and the director is intent on sticking very closely to the source material (just like for 300).

Offtopic, but I'm also rather interested to see how Frank Miller does in his solo-directing debut with The Spirit.

rem

07-22-2008, 04:53 PM

I'm wary of how this is going to turn out. I thought 300 was crap but there wasn't too much to work with in the first place.

Penfold

07-22-2008, 05:11 PM

I'm wary of how this is going to turn out. I thought 300 was crap but there wasn't too much to work with in the first place.

Meh, I've heard people bash on 300 lately, saying it's all flash and no substance/gimmicky. To each their own, but I thought it was still fun to watch, and despite the very 2-dimensional characters they were able to add some nice subtle character depth. What I liked most was that they actually made action sequences dynamic, without a hint of shakey cam in sight(and yes, those are mutually exclusive). Zach Snyder is no Hitchcock, but if he can make entertaining movies that's more than I can say for a lot of mainstream Hollywood directors nowadays (I'm looking at you, Michael Bay).

Sindra

07-22-2008, 05:44 PM

When I saw this trailer in Dark Knight I heard that Smashing Pumpkins song and thought "Why would they remind me of the Batman & Robin movie right before seeing Dark Knight?

That song was the only good thing to come out of the horror that was Batman & Robin.

zyko

07-22-2008, 05:50 PM

That song was the only good thing to come out of the horror that was Batman & Robin.

indeed

watchmen looks great though... i'm weary of miller's style now but my one consolation is that the watchmen graphic novel is the shit. our showing of dark knight did not play the watchmen trailer so i had to watch it when i got home...

i instead got to see christian bale slotted as john connor

yangfeili

07-22-2008, 06:03 PM

If anything, with all of these superhero movies right now it's the perfect time for Watchmen, seeing as it really isn't so much a superhero story as it is a story about the superhero genre.

Belive it or not, my first time reading the graphic novel was for a college American Literature course. Normally I would balk at that sort of thing, the efforts to try to make things "hip" or whatever, often to the detriment of the academic value of the course. But the professor had very much the same view on things, and wasn't just one of those teachers who tries to cram the course full of "alternative" voices to bury the "dead white guys" of classic literature.

Most of the course was very strongly focused on the classics, but when we got up to more modern times, he included the graphic novel because he genuinely thought it had significant value as a new form of literature. And his analysis of the novel was indeed fascinating to listen to and discuss -- he's written books and articles on the history of comic books and the way they've both influenced and been influenced by cultural trends.

Oh, if you're wondering why the heck he included a British graphic novel in an American course, it's because in his view, the novel falls into the category of literature about America, and I think he did a pretty good job of defending that decision.

Bleck

07-22-2008, 06:03 PM

i instead got to see christian bale slotted as john connor

We got this and Watchmen. And The Day The Earth Stood Still. And Quantum Of Solace.

If they hadn't also showed the Twilight trailer, it would have been the best bunch of trailers I'd ever seen.

fucking twilight

Schwaltzvald

07-22-2008, 06:11 PM

i instead got to see christian bale slotted as john connor

What the flying fu. NOOOO
NO

NOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!1!!!

IT ENDED WITH T2 PERIOD!! WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO DOOHOOOHOOOO... *me cries*

jayc4life

07-22-2008, 07:00 PM

IT ENDED WITH T2 PERIOD!! WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO DOOHOOOHOOOO...
My sentiments exactly. It's like there was no massive outline for an entire series to start out with, or else at the end of T2, it accidentally got put through a shredder about 17 times and now nobody can make cohesion out of anything. Therefore (as the original writer and story creator forgot himself), there has to be some sort of half-arsed compromise. A mediocre-at-best third movie, a pretty good TV series and what could be a saving grace of a fourth movie was that compromise.

However, back to Watchmen. When i first heard the rumour little over a year ago, I was skeptical that it wouldn't work. There's too much going on and they'd have to split it into 2 parts. I can only hope this is the epic we've all been waiting for.

NNY

07-22-2008, 07:18 PM

First of all, for those of you who haven't read or finished the book, READ IT. And read it slowly. There is a lot in the book. It is not your average superhero comic. It's hardly what you expect. Don't expect many action scenes either. Watchmen is a deconstruction of the superhero genre. In fact, the only person with superpowers at all is Dr. Manhattan (the blue man). There are many themes in Watchmen. If you're reading it and thinking "this book is alright," you're clearly not understanding the subtext. Watchmen is the only graphic novel to be on Time's 100 Greatest Novels of All Time list, and to win the Harvey Award. Zack Snyder is working hard to make this movie as close to the book as possible, he really understands the importance in this.

Having this said, I can understand if you haven't read the book and weren't impressed with the trailer. The trailer was really only designed for the fans of the book. Joe Shmo's trailer will be out closer to the release date.

I don't mean to come off as an intellectual snob here, but this isn't just some average movie sequel or chick sci-fi movie here. It's Watchmen. This is important. Read the book. And think hard about it.

Edit:
As for my opinion on the trailer? It blew me away. I'm heavily looking forward to this. It might be better than The Dark Knight, and I love that movie. The music? Ironically perfect. It fits the atmosphere nicely. I read somewhere that they wrote it with the 1939 Bat-Man in mind, even if it was for Batman & Robin.

Bleck

07-22-2008, 07:28 PM

I will be honest in that I have not read the book but was still impressed with the trailer

I downloaded the book and it's all in .cbr format; does anyone know what this is

in before 'google fgt'

NNY

07-22-2008, 07:30 PM

I will be honest in that I have not read the book but was still impressed with the trailer

I downloaded the book and it's all in .cbr format; does anyone know what this is

in before 'google fgt'

You will need to download a program called Comic Book Reader.
Of course, nothing beats comic books on paper.

Bleck

07-22-2008, 07:36 PM

if this goes anything like v for vendetta did, I will buy it immediately after reading it

NNY

07-22-2008, 07:44 PM

It makes V For Vendetta look as mediocre as Naruto.

atmuh

07-22-2008, 08:02 PM

BELIEVE IT

jayc4life

07-22-2008, 08:54 PM

You will need to download a program called Comic Book Reader.
Of course, nothing beats comic books on paper.

Actually you don't. It's better with Comic Book Reader, but they can open with WinRAR too (I think).

NNY

07-22-2008, 09:07 PM

Actually you don't. It's better with Comic Book Reader, but they can open with WinRAR too (I think).

You can, but CBR simplifies it, and makes it a wholly more pleasant reading experience.

Master_Yoshi

07-23-2008, 02:26 AM

It's pretty ironic how a friend lent me this graphic novel a couple days before dark knight. I am totalaly psyched about this movie. I might even *gulp* brave opening night crowds for it if the further trailers look good.

GenericDerrick

07-23-2008, 07:47 AM

NNY

07-23-2008, 07:58 AM

Rofl, this made me laugh for a second because like ten minutes ago I went to Wikipedia to see what Watchmen was about and this paragraph is almost like word for word what Wikpedia says. :<

Really? I haven't read Watchmen's Wikipedia page in a couple of years.

GenericDerrick

07-23-2008, 08:01 AM

Yeah I just thought it was weird. :D

But yeah, the movie looks like it will be pretty good. Maybe when I get back from Puerto Rico next week I'll pick up a copy of the book to read.

I-n-j-i-n

07-23-2008, 08:10 AM

I'm anticipating it. Between the Spirit and Watchmen, I actually am anticipating them more than Batman or any other 2008 superhero movies personally.

Mainly because both have the potential to be either REALLY GOOD or really bad depending on how they stick to the source material. From the overall look of things, it looks like they will both get the visual look of it right.

I think the Watchmen will fit in a movie just fine personally. There's surely a lot of scenes and dialog in the graphic novel, but you can always pare them down to the most crucial parts and put more words into actual action instead. Or split it between two movies. Either way, if there's any justice for the comicbook movie industry,I think the Watchmen should become a critical and commercial success. Too bad it doesn't have the idiot-proof factor of most major superhero movies.

Liontamer

07-23-2008, 08:17 AM

I'm actually in the minority on it. Hopefully the movie will be good, but I've read Watchmen several times, and I thought the trailer sucked. I felt the remixed Pumpkins song was a poor fit (too bad, I liked the original from B&R). Plus, I got 0 sense of what the movie was supposed to be about, even though I know the story forwards and backwards. And though the world is supposed to be dark, it's not supposed to be Sin City/300 dark. It just looked needlessly dingy and depressing. Regardless, I'll probably end up seeing this in theaters, and hope they'll do a good job.

ILLiterate

07-23-2008, 08:31 AM

Watchmen world looks needlessly dingy and depressing?

That's new

Yeah, they don't even give me time to take a break, as soon as Dark Knight is finally out we get this trailer, back to the nerd hype pile

NNY

07-23-2008, 09:07 AM

I came in here to tell why Larry and Injin are wrong...but aw hell.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/watchmennews.php?id=7508

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8143/sallyjupiterpinupxj2.jpg

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/comedian_lfbe.jpg

Everything about this movie is just perfect.

Edit:
To clarify, I think it needs to be one movie, and as long as they want it. I believe people are just generally not as patient as they were decades ago and long for longer, more theatrical films again. And so far, I'm happy with all the choices Snyder has made.

Edit #2:
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/watchmen_trailer_to_comic_comparison/ Side by side comparrison of the book and film (trailer). It's pretty spot on. Thinking the movie is too dark is just silly. It's supposed to be bleak.

Liontamer

07-23-2008, 01:26 PM

Edit #2:
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/watchmen_trailer_to_comic_comparison/ Side by side comparrison of the book and film (trailer). It's pretty spot on. Thinking the movie is too dark is just silly. It's supposed to be bleak.

The subject matter is bleak. And clearly a lot takes place during the nighttime. But the scenes that actually took place during the day now all look dark too, which I just found weak. For stuff like the return of Dr. Manhattan or Ozymandias defending himself at his building, the shit happened in broad daylight yet it's all dim and dark, and the rest of the scenes like that seem like they'll turn out that way as well. I don't see why the whole film needs to look like it's gonna rain any minute, so I hope that's not what it looks like.

And what the hell did they do with Oz and Comedian's hairstyles? Oz in particular looks like a goof. Also seems like they de-aged Comedian a good deal based on his youthful look in Vietnam. I'm not nitpicking like the movie will be poor, but would rather not have a visual setting like the permanent dusk of 300.

I-n-j-i-n

07-23-2008, 01:38 PM

But... but... the days in the Watchmen graphic novel were dark too.. I don't get it.

Liontamer

07-23-2008, 02:24 PM

But... but... the days in the Watchmen graphic novel were dark too.. I don't get it.

http://api.ning.com/files/KSIMUu4ewW04OAv3sgWi72KAAussYXsCtlP9Hf9GHl0_/Watchmen0301.jpg

I-n-j-i-n

07-23-2008, 02:32 PM

Okay, maybe not *DARK* dark, but still. Still pretty dreary. Also, we only got the night shots for the trailer, it seems. And the whole 300 director involvement so maybe the lighting is purposefully styled like that. Other than that, the look of the characters can't get much better.

NNY

07-23-2008, 11:28 PM

And what the hell did they do with Oz and Comedian's hairstyles? Oz in particular looks like a goof. Also seems like they de-aged Comedian a good deal based on his youthful look in Vietnam. I'm not nitpicking like the movie will be poor, but would rather not have a visual setting like the permanent dusk of 300.

Well, this is the first image of Comedian they released.

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/comediand72.jpg

Hell, I thought that was cooler than Rorschach.

The Damned

07-23-2008, 11:55 PM

From what shots I've seen from the movie and trailer, they seem to be doing almost literal shots from the books, so it may be safe to say that this movie will be a condensed but accurate adaptation of the original.

And that's a good thing, because if they took anything out, it would ruin a lot of the atmosphere it had.

NNY

07-24-2008, 12:16 AM

The Tales of the Black Freighter subplot won't be in the movie. However, it is coming out as a separate animated movie, being released directly to DVD a week after Watchmen comes out. Zack Snyder himself is doing the voice of the captain.

Maco70

08-06-2008, 04:44 AM

I had a fangasm when I saw the trailer.
Nuff sed.

Sensai

08-06-2008, 05:39 AM

I'm pretty excited about this movie, truth be told, but still very wary of it. How could they possibly fit all of Watchmen into a movie without it being at least 4 and a half hours long?

Oh well, fingers are crossed.

Also: if you haven't read the comic by this point, I'd seriously suggest it as it's an amazingly psychological book. If you don't take my word for it, it's one of Time's top 100 novels of all time.

ILLiterate

08-06-2008, 06:52 AM

Word on the street is that the current cut is at 3 hours-ish but they're trying to get it down to 2 hours 30 min-ish? Zack is being very picky about it

Maco70

08-06-2008, 06:57 AM

but they're trying to get it down to 2 hours 30 min-ish?

Who is "they"?

Bleck

08-06-2008, 08:24 AM

best thing is the trailer song is a remix of a song by the smashing pumpkins

said song was originally written for the batman & robin soundtrack

this trailer played before The Dark Knight and I thought 'why would they remind me of this'

DarkeSword

08-06-2008, 01:07 PM

The Author

08-06-2008, 01:53 PM

To make Dark Knight seem even better.
Ice to meet you.

(Ok, my actual favourite line from a crappy Batman comes from Batman Forever:

Holey metal island Batman!")

I almost purchased the 75$ complete collection last weekend, thankfully my comic book guy told me they ordered some paperbacks, which are quite cheaper.

rem

08-06-2008, 05:58 PM

Batman and Robin is awesome if you just remind yourself that it's a giant joke. All of my governor's one-liners are awesome.

I-n-j-i-n

08-07-2008, 08:55 AM

Looking back at Batman & Robin, it did have some pretty good moments especially in its cheesiness. And yes, the governator's lines are a cult classic now. CHILL.

Also, as bad as the take on Batman was under Schumacher (I still blame the producers who wanted to make Batman a kid-friendly type of movie. People blaming Schumacher are sort of misguided IMO), I still rather like some of the gadgetry and the ridiculously overpowered Batmobile that makes the Tank-Batmobile looks slow, and basically like a normal tank.

Cottus&Gyes

08-07-2008, 04:54 PM

Why did the "Watchmen" thread turn into a semi-"The Dark Knight" thread. Internet ftl.

Archaon

08-20-2008, 03:45 PM

Bump. (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/121916219271931.htm)

Is "Watchmen" screwed?

Avatar of Justice

08-20-2008, 04:06 PM

I'm currently reading the Watchmen (inspired by the trailer and Rorscach saying "And I will whipser 'No'") and loving every page of it. However, I just don't see a need for the movie. I can already tell that they are going to have to cut a lot out and probably will make the movie strictly linear. I for one like the random things they do with time and the parallel narratives like the pirate story.

What makes something like the Dark Knight so good is that the writers and director are bringing something unique to the character of Batman, a character whose tale really has no end in sight. We can simply enjoy the character without all the comic book bullshit that only the hardcore comic book fans know. The Watchmen movie however, isn't likely to bring a unique take like that, as the story was done and finished in its original run. What we are likely to get is an incomplete version. Short of an improvement on the original source material, like say LotR because Tolkein was such a boring horrible writer, I'm not really interested in this. At best, it is just going to bring attention to the graphic novel, which really does deserve more.

Zombie

08-20-2008, 04:29 PM

My copy watchmen should arrive tomorrow.

I am exited to read it! :<

MechaFone

08-20-2008, 05:16 PM

Bump. (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/121916219271931.htm)

Is "Watchmen" screwed?
Aw fuck I gotta wait another year for Half-Blood Prince??

PrototypeRaptor

08-20-2008, 05:50 PM

like say LotR because Tolkein was such a boring horrible writer

I just died a little inside :(

But hey, looking forward to the movie...if the graphic novel is as good as you guys say it is, I might have to pick up a copy.

Raziellink

08-20-2008, 07:11 PM

Batman and Robin is awesome if you just remind yourself that it's a giant joke. All of my governor's one-liners are awesome.

Know what killed the dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!!!

Oh, and http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/234-batman-and-robin

Maco70

08-21-2008, 09:37 AM

Bump. (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/121916219271931.htm)

Is "Watchmen" screwed?

Man, fox is really trying to get people to hate them; eh?

Anyway; I am disappointed that so many of you haven't read "watchmen" yet.
Shame on you.
Get Reading.

The Author

08-21-2008, 12:59 PM

Read it this week, will lend it to a friend next week, and hopefully I'll read it again the week after that.

Avatar of Justice

08-27-2008, 05:49 PM

I finished the Watchmen last weekend. Loved the morally ambiguous ending. I wish someone would do to the fantasy book industry what Watchmen did to the comic book industry. Guess it'll have to be me.

Zombie

10-07-2008, 05:37 PM

The Damned

10-07-2008, 06:44 PM

Yeah, but what about the Watchmen? Is it still going or what? I haven't really heard anything since that link halfway up.

Zombie

10-07-2008, 07:12 PM

Uh, of course it's still going. Coming out March of next year. Looks like it's going to be fantastic.

Me and a friend are going to attempt to make a Rorschach mask this weekend. We have a great idea on how to make the black parts of the mask move too. Should be awesome, if it turns out good i will post pics. :<

Maco70

10-07-2008, 08:45 PM

I was wondering if the comic the boy reads in the book would be made or not, and it looks like it will be released separately from the movie in the form of a short animated film. Under the Hood will also be made as a sort of mockumentary thing. Exited!

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/915/915511p1.html

I thougght I mentioned this earlier.
But yes, it's better than trying to make it into the film and confuse the hell out of the audience.

Yeah, but what about the Watchmen? Is it still going or what? I haven't really heard anything since that link halfway up.

I haven't heard anything about the suit if that's what you're talking about.
But something tells me Paramount will pay whatever it takes to get a big budget film like this out.

DJMetal

10-19-2008, 01:27 AM

I'm really looking forward to this movie. I feel like a total tool, but I actually read the comic because the trailer looked interesting, and I absolutely loved it. I'm hoping this movie turns out well.

"No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise." =D

Nohbody

10-19-2008, 01:54 AM

I thougght I mentioned this earlier.
But yes, it's better than trying to make it into the film and confuse the hell out of the audience.

I haven't heard anything about the suit if that's what you're talking about.
But something tells me Paramount will pay whatever it takes to get a big budget film like this out.
awesome damit this rocks

Maco70

10-19-2008, 02:37 AM

The first 25 minutes of the movie documented:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/100708-watchmen-movie-footage.php

Maco70

10-28-2008, 03:21 AM

What is essentially a new trailer:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/102108-watchmen-2008-scream-trailer.php

The Damned

10-28-2008, 03:39 AM

How much longer until it's out?

Between this and Chrono Trigger, I'm using up my patience.

Zombie

10-28-2008, 04:09 AM

It comes out march.

Those new scenes are friggin' sweet. Man i cannot wait for this movie...

Nohbody

10-28-2008, 04:27 AM

It comes out march.

Those new scenes are friggin' sweet. Man i cannot wait for this movie...
march is so friggin far away

Zombie

10-28-2008, 04:45 AM

March is shaping up to be a month of awesome. Resident Evil 5 anybody? I don't think anything could be better than March next year.

Bleck

10-28-2008, 06:51 AM

March is going to be the best just because of Watchmen.

I-n-j-i-n

10-28-2008, 10:37 AM

And Resident Evil 5... and Street Fighter 4 if it comes out by March.

DJMetal

10-29-2008, 05:23 PM

Oh crap...my anticipation demon is coming out...it's saying stuff like "Remember the Blade movies...Remember Silent Hill: Homecoming..." I'm losing my cool! I need to stay optimistic! I just don't want to be let down again :puppyeyes:

Maco70

11-08-2008, 03:26 AM

I have mixed feeling about this:
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3168691&type=game&sec=NEWS

Zombie

11-08-2008, 03:35 AM

I have mixed feeling about this:
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3168691&type=game&sec=NEWS

:?

bleh

tennnn

The Damned

11-08-2008, 03:57 AM

A video game, based upona movie, that is based upon a comic book.

This is going to go soooo well.

Wintermute

11-08-2008, 05:04 AM

....It could be good.

But it probably won't be.

Besides, Watchmen wasn't really about action.. makes for a poor action game idea. If it's an adventure type game with some action elements it could be fricken excellen though.

Maco70

11-08-2008, 05:35 AM

The only redeeming factor I see is that it is categorized as an XBLA game, and "episodic content".
Means they can't mess up the story on a large scale.

Sensai

11-08-2008, 08:49 AM

About the Watchman game:

Apparently, it's NOT going to be based on the book, but based on a time before the book (a prequel, if you will). So...expect a lack-luster, probably souless brawler with a few characters you might recognize in it.

I'm not too worried about it, as I'm sure most intelligent people will stay as far away from it as they possibly can.

Archaon

11-08-2008, 09:02 AM

A video game, based upona movie, that is based upon a comic book.

This is going to go soooo well.

To be perfectly fair, I'm under the impression that the Spiderman movie games were pretty good.

THERE'S A CHANCE.

anthonium

11-08-2008, 12:48 PM

Once you play as Dr. Manhattan everything's over.

Maco70

11-08-2008, 06:26 PM

dPaladin

11-10-2008, 12:58 AM

The Watchmen movie looks like it's going to be pretty good. The game looks like it's going to be pretty bad. As I like good things and dislike bad things, I will probably see the movie and avoid the game.

Bleck

11-10-2008, 01:14 AM

To be perfectly fair, I'm under the impression that the Spiderman movie games were pretty good.

THERE'S A CHANCE.

Only the second one - the first and third ones were subpar, to say the least, and yet the second manages to be pretty much the best superhero game ever (other than Marvel Vs Capcom).

Maco70

11-10-2008, 01:35 AM

I played spiderman 2 (movie game), it was really good. Not due to story though.
And how was it compared to the third movie game?

Bleck

11-10-2008, 01:42 AM

And how was it compared to the third movie game?

Comparing Spider-Man 2 to Spider-Man 3 - whether we're talking about the movie or the game - is like comparing a plate full of delicious, crispy bacon to an ass full of poo.

Maco70

11-10-2008, 01:51 AM

I've seen all the movies, I was asking if the third game is as good as the second one.

Bleck

11-10-2008, 01:52 AM

whether we're talking about the movie or the game

TEN CHARACATAHS

Maco70

11-10-2008, 02:58 AM

Ok, but you have still to specify which is which.

Bleck

11-10-2008, 03:58 AM

...um what WHAT THE FUCK

Maco70

11-10-2008, 04:01 AM

I am having one of those "poor communication days" apparently.

I am asking: Is the spiderman 3 movie game as good as the spiderman 2 movie game?

Bleck

11-10-2008, 10:35 PM

DID YOU NOT READ MY POST I MEAN HOLY FUCKING CHRIST

Comparing Spider-Man 2 to Spider-Man 3 - whether we're talking about the movie OR the game - is like comparing a plate full of delicious, crispy bacon to an ass full of poo.

The Author

11-10-2008, 10:47 PM

Bleck, he might be one of these freaks that loved the third movie.

I have to say, I caught the last hour recently and it was somewhat enjoyable...

Nohbody

11-10-2008, 11:04 PM

there was a dance scene in spiderman 3 wasnt there?

in retrospect that really seemed out of place.

The Damned

11-10-2008, 11:04 PM

I have to say, I caught the last hour recently and it was somewhat enjoyable...

That's because you didn't have the first part of it to compare to. It's like two separate movies at that point.

wiredzombie

11-10-2008, 11:20 PM

Well...

Any one already had their fill of comic/graphic novel book movies or there's still room for yet another...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU

Seems interesting enough and I've only heard of them, never read anything...

:)!!

if you havent watched the newer trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHYIwgAPYQ

watch it here ^

i read the comic recently, and i'm so ready for this movie

Bleck

11-10-2008, 11:28 PM

That song is so perfect for this movie.

cobaltstarfire

11-10-2008, 11:36 PM

Hmm, nice trailer, but I think the original one was much more effective.

Maco70

11-11-2008, 12:08 AM

OBNOXIOUS

Chill. You weren't clear.
Now that we've established that. can you give me a reason?
Or is that too hard for you?

Hmm, nice trailer, but I think the original one was much more effective.

(I linked to this on earlier pages) This was shown on spike TV as a "exclusive sneak peak". It's not supposed to be a trailer.

Bleck

11-11-2008, 12:21 AM

Chill. You weren't clear.

I was quite clear.

cobaltstarfire

11-11-2008, 12:43 AM

I think he was just wondering which one you considered good, and which one you considered poop.

Although going by the order of things, it looks like 2=good 3=poop for both games and movies. (Never played the games, never watched 3 so I wouldn't know).

Bleck

11-11-2008, 12:45 AM

cobaltstarfire

11-11-2008, 01:34 AM

You're going to flip out so much over one guy with mildly weak reading comprehension?

GG I guess.

dPaladin

11-11-2008, 03:57 AM

Hahahaha, looks like someone brought his PPR voice to the discussion.

I'd never heard that song before because I was living under a rock for the 90s but it does fit pretty well.

wiredzombie

11-11-2008, 04:13 AM

(I linked to this on earlier pages) This was shown on spike TV as a "exclusive sneak peak". It's not supposed to be a trailer.[/quote]

forgive me, i mistook it for a trailer for some strange reason :-x

Cottus&Gyes

11-11-2008, 07:19 AM

Bleck I'm still confused, could you specify a tinsy bit more?

The Damned

11-11-2008, 03:59 PM

Yeah, I'm still a little unclear on what you're getting at there.

Maco70

11-12-2008, 06:53 PM

oh my god IS EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD RETARDED

SPIDER MAN 2, THE GAME, IS BETTER THAN SPIDER MAN 3, THE GAME

SPIDER MAN 2, THE MOVIE, IS BETTER THAN SPIDER MAN 3, THE MOVIE

SPIDER MAN 2, THE GAME, IS BETTER THAN SPIDER MAN 3, THE MOVIE

SPIDER MAN 2, THE MOVIE, IS BETTER THAN SPIDER MAN 3, THE GAME

IS THAT FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH FOR ALL OF YOU JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

Using all caps makes your point more effective.
And no, you were not clear. Typically when someone is confused, you try to use more words to explain rather than fewer.
After all that effective communication, you still haven't given a reason. Keep it to yourself now, I don't even want to hear what you have to say.

DJMetal

11-12-2008, 07:22 PM

So I read some stuff about the Watchmen movie from one of the guys who got to preview some of the footage. It's got some spoilers, but it's a pretty good read. The thing that struck me most was that they're supposedly not going to alter Dr. Manhattan's voice after his transformation. That strikes me as kind of odd, since his speech in the comic is...well, blue.

Here's the link:
http://kstc45.com/article/stories/S609385.shtml?cat=11147

Maco70

11-12-2008, 07:34 PM

Bad news:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/111008-watchmen-movie-zack-snyder-ending-changed.php

Heavy spoilers btw. This address the ending of the movie.

DJMetal

11-12-2008, 07:45 PM

Bad news:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/111008-watchmen-movie-zack-snyder-ending-changed.php

Heavy spoilers btw. This address the ending of the movie.

Oh dammit. I'm not at all happy about this one :|

cobaltstarfire

11-13-2008, 01:02 AM

I don't know the ending of either (nor am I going to spoil myself) but a lot of people on another forum said they think the movie ending is better/more satisfying than the comic one.

But meh I dunno, I guess I'll find out when I have time to read the comic and then watch the movie!

EdgeCrusher

11-13-2008, 01:10 AM

Using all caps makes your point more effective.
And no, you were not clear. Typically when someone is confused, you try to use more words to explain rather than fewer.
After all that effective communication, you still haven't given a reason. Keep it to yourself now, I don't even want to hear what you have to say.

It was pretty damn clear to me the first time he said it. I don't see how you couldn't get it.

NNY

11-13-2008, 10:23 PM

I've known about the game for a while now. It really won't be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. (In terms of story at least. The gameplay might be mediocre. I dunno.) The game won't take place during the movie. That would be stupid, since there isn't much action in Watchmen. It's gonna take place before the Keene Act. From what I remember, you play as Nite Owl II and Rorschach. A game where you get to kick ass and break fingers in their heyday? Sounds like a solid concept right there.

As for the ending, I'm hearing conflicting reports constantly. One confirms the end will be in tact, another confirms that it will be a different ending. I'm not gonna believe any of them until the movie actually comes out. It'll actually be nice to not know about how the movie will end. Add to the mystery. I'm pretty sure that both endings will be on the DVD anyway.

Maco70

11-14-2008, 02:52 AM

EdgeCrusher

11-14-2008, 11:26 AM

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/111008-watchmen-movie-zack-snyder-ending-changed.php

Read it again, the article address all of the points you made.

So what are you trying to say?

NNY

11-14-2008, 04:21 PM

There's going to be another conflicting report next month. Plus, there's a lack of professionalism in that guy's writing that I don't trust.

Maco70

11-14-2008, 04:33 PM

There's going to be another conflicting report next month. Plus, there's a lack of professionalism in that guy's writing that I don't trust.

Good call.
I forgot this is essentially another forum I am referencing here.
The only thing I do trust are the quotes from Zack Snyder.

Spoilers.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/081107k.php

Zombie

11-14-2008, 06:18 PM

WHAT?! (spoilers)

This whole "no-squid" thing makes me really sad. :-( It seemed to be going so well too...

Bleck

11-14-2008, 07:39 PM

HEY, PREVIOUS TWO POSTS, THERE IS A REASON WE'VE BEEN AVOIDING ACTUALLY SAYING WHAT ABOUT THE ENDING WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

Edit for spoilers, please.

NNY

11-14-2008, 08:28 PM

WHAT?!

This whole thing makes me really sad. :-( It seemed to be going so well too...

Spoiler-tag your shit.

Maco70

11-19-2008, 05:13 AM

A new trailer.

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/111308-watchmen-movie-trailer.php

Spoilers I guess.

I'm not sure where they're going by referring to the Watchmen as if they were a group. I'll hold any real judgment until the movie come out, I've learned not to trust trailers.
This gives a better images of what I assume the film will be like. It fed my excitement, I'll put it that way.

The Author

11-19-2008, 05:37 AM

The first 2 trailers were for people who have read the comic.

This one is for the rest of the world.

Maco70

11-19-2008, 05:40 AM

Hmm...
Well put.

Maco70

01-21-2009, 08:48 PM

Lawsuit = over

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/011509-watchmen-fox-%20wb-lawsuit-dismissed.php

DJMetal

01-22-2009, 11:03 PM

That's good, I guess. I dunno. I'm still trying to deal with the whole "ending" thing...*mixed feelings*.

Lawsuit = over

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/011509-watchmen-fox-%20wb-lawsuit-dismissed.php

Maco70

01-23-2009, 02:03 AM

That's good, I guess. I dunno. I'm still trying to deal with the whole "ending" thing...*mixed feelings*.

Me too. But I'll reserve judgement until I see it.

Hemophiliac

01-23-2009, 03:15 AM

I'm glad to hear it's all settled, I can't wait to see the movie.

Me and my coworkers were getting concerned the release date was going to be pushed back. (i work at a movie theatre)

even cooler, i have a comedian pin i wear :D

Maco70

01-23-2009, 04:03 AM

even cooler, i have a comedian pin i wear :D

Want

10char

Linkjing Donuts

01-23-2009, 04:14 AM

even coolerer, i have a button maker

Maco70

01-23-2009, 04:22 AM

even coolerer, i have a button maker

...Want?

10morechar

elijahbailey

01-23-2009, 05:14 AM

Meh, I've heard people bash on 300 lately, saying it's all flash and no substance/gimmicky. To each their own, but I thought it was still fun to watch, and despite the very 2-dimensional characters they were able to add some nice subtle character depth.

For 300, I blame the two-dimensional characters on the source material.

Maco70

01-23-2009, 06:10 AM

For 300, I blame the two-dimensional characters on the source material.

http://www.teamdrunkottawa.com/funnay/images/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

PS: I agree.

Hemophiliac

01-23-2009, 06:57 AM

Maco70

01-23-2009, 07:41 AM

yeah i've heard a lot of nonsense about how zack synder is gonna make watchmen fail...well, i disagree.

honestly what i think will make or break this movie is the editting.

why?

well, the story is told through complex cutting through time and story-lines (black freighter). If the movie can successfully transistion through time and the story-lines then i think this movie will have the potential to work, even though they changed the ending.

visually this movie i think will work no matter what happens. it was filmed only with one camera, so they could setup the shots to look just like the novel frames more often. that would've happened less with more then one camera.

and besides, the director is more known for his visual work anyways :D

i certainly have high hopes.

Two things.

First; The black freighter story has already been cut.

Second; Snyder tried to limit his cameras to as few as possible to force himself to follow the shots of the novel. But the movie was not filmed with one camera. That would be ludicrous. I'd cite my source, but I don't really want to go searching for it.

I don't have high hopes for the movie, but I expect that it will be visually stunning at the very least.
I reserve all other judgement until march.

Hemophiliac

01-23-2009, 07:54 AM

hadn't heard the freighter was cut, interesting.

also the one camera source for me was the director of photography in one of the video journals. i'd think he'd know how many they used.

Kenobio

01-23-2009, 03:02 PM

I'm highly disappointed the decision was made to change the ending. While I'm sure (at least I pray) I'll be able to stomach the revised ending, I'm fairly positive I'll never be able to shake the feeling that the original comic book ending was the best. :(

Bleck

01-23-2009, 03:50 PM

freighter has only been cut from the theatrical version

The Author

01-23-2009, 04:50 PM

It will be a DVD extra I think.

As for the ending, the means by which it happens is not important, what matters is the cost and how it worked.

Bleck

01-23-2009, 05:01 PM

dvd more like extended version

EdgeCrusher

01-23-2009, 06:28 PM

Isnt the BF version suppose to be almost 4 hours long?

Maco70

01-23-2009, 06:38 PM

As for the ending, the means by which it happens is not important, what matters is the cost and how it worked.

I agree.

It might be easier for an average audience to swallow this new ending than the original. I made my room mate read Watchmen, and he said he loved everything except the ending.

I also have an open mind, because I personally thought that the V for Vendetta movie was better than the novel.
This is slightly different though.

Hemophiliac

01-23-2009, 06:52 PM

i also agree with the ending change, as long as the meaning still is there.
this also means that the idea of the artists + the island might also be cut then (since it was associated with the specificness of the novel's ending).

meaning over execution.

cool to hear freighter to be in the DVD.

01-23-2009, 08:04 PM

I read on comingsoon.net that the black frieghter will be released as a seperate animated feature on DVD/Blu-ray alongside the theatrical release in March...not sure exactly if they're going to include it in the DVD release of the movie, but i'm sure there will be some 'ultimate collectors edition dvd' or something that includes it later on.

Kenobio

01-23-2009, 11:04 PM

Stolen from the Watchmen movie's Wikipedia page to clear up a few things:

Tales of the Black Freighter, a comic within the Watchmen comic, will be adapted as a direct-to-video animated feature, which will be released on March 11, 2009.[99] It was originally included in the script,[76] but was cut due to budget restrictions,[74] because the segment would have added $20 million to the budget, as Snyder wanted to film it in a stylized manner reminiscent of 300.[99] Snyder considered including the animated film in the final cut,[9] but the film was already approaching a three hour running time.[99] Gerard Butler, who starred in 300, voices the Captain in the film, having been promised a role in the film, which never materialized.[100]
The Tales of the Black Freighter DVD will also include Under the Hood, a documentary detailing the characters' backstories, which takes its title from that of Hollis Mason's memoirs in the graphic novel.[99] The actors were allowed to improvise during filming interviews in character.[101] The film itself is scheduled to be released on DVD four months after Tales of the Black Freighter, and Warner Bros. is thought to be considering releasing an extended version, with the animated film edited back into the main picture.[99] Snyder expected this final version will be three hours and twenty-five minutes long.[102] In addition, the Watchmen: Motion Comics, which appeared the iTunes Store will also be released on DVD on March 3 and include an exclusive scene from the movie.[103]

wiredzombie

01-24-2009, 03:21 PM

Tales of the Black Freighter seemed so brutal in the novel. I'll probably end up buying it as soon as it comes out. To bad they couldnt put it in the movie though, it added more action to the novel

The Damned

01-25-2009, 05:17 PM

I don't recall seeing this before, so I guess it's new. Or at least, new enough.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/303470.html

They had me fooled, thinking it was an actual old clip. That's some damn good video editing.

DJMetal

01-26-2009, 12:03 AM

I'm seeing a lot of talk about the ending and I figured I'd give my two cents about it

MAJOR HARDCORE SPOILERS. Seriously:
The whole reason the comedian gets knocked off in the beginning is because he stumbles upon the plan and freaks out about it. I hear tell the new ending has something to do with Dr. Manhattan supposedly using an energy beam or blowing up or something. Unconfirmed, but sounds kinda likely, especially given that blue fireball in the trailers. Source: http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/111008-watchmen-movie-zack-snyder-ending-changed.php. So how is the comedian going to stumble onto that? My fear is that while the ending in the comic was a bit of a stretch, the ending in the movie will break the story. I dunno. I'm hopeful but reserved. *Please note that the above link also leads to a spoiler, but that I couldn't make it white. My bad*

Also, I love that 70s news clip. So awesome.

Maco70

02-01-2009, 08:58 PM

Black Freighter details;
http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/013009-watchmen-black-freighter-dvd.php

I personally hope that they release this with the special edition DVD. I don't think there was enough plot to make this into much more than a short film.

And...
http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/013009-watchmen-movie-ending-zack-snyder.php

Watchmen director discusses the film’s altered ending and the idea of a sequel

the idea of a sequel

sequel

god
damn
it

I mean, he says he'll have nothing to do with it. But...
...I prefer not to even think about it. The prequel already has me fuming.

Zombie

02-02-2009, 12:08 AM

I seriously need to read this again before the movie comes out. I was stupid and gave my copy away...

M W

02-02-2009, 01:28 AM

I picked up a copy of Watchmen on New Year's Eve, and in all honesty I could not put the book down. I started reading it at nine, and it had me through New Year's up until 6 AM when I finally finished it. It's a great copy of it too; a lovely Hardcover with absolutely nothing cut from the original.

I'm not sure how to interpret the new ending; it's essentially formulating a whole new plan on the part of the story's antagonist, and given how much of an anti-villain he was to start off with, we might even see that much outright change (which is a strict no-no, in my opinion).

I've also read V for Vendetta by Alan Moore too. I read it first and saw the movie recently too. The only thing the movie holds over the book is being easier to follow after the Vicious Caribet arc. Other than that, the respect for the source material was... hollow at best.

Then again, if it was an issue of pure adaptation, I would allow for singular changes made, provided that the overall thematic material remains the same.

Of course, I won't know until I see it. From what is there of the movie now, I can't find anything seemingly wrong with it. It all seems exactly as it was in the book.

zyko

02-03-2009, 07:31 AM

it is impossible to put the book down once you start. it's such an infectious story.

i can't wait for the movie or the black freighter release a week later.

how so very insane march will be for me :)

Zup

02-03-2009, 04:24 PM

So nobody else really hated the Black Freighter story but me? I thought it was tedious and boring. I understand its connection to the main plot and the reverberations of the theme, but I still thought it was ultimately too wordy and I wanted to get back to the real story every time. Now I skip it when I reread Watchmen.

dPaladin

02-03-2009, 05:52 PM

Yeah you're pretty much alone there.

Maco70

02-03-2009, 07:10 PM

I thought the story was fine.

As a stand alone story? I dunno...

The Damned

02-03-2009, 07:35 PM

I never really bothered with it. I mostly just skimmed it, and just like you, mostly skipped it after the first few read-throughs.

zyko

02-04-2009, 03:53 PM

well, i think those who didn't like it in amidst the watchmen, might like the rated r 30 minute stand alone of it better. i can see how the black freighter storyline can be tedious to some during the watchmen read but as a standalone, it'll probably evade that fate

that said, the story of the black freighter is best utilized alongside the watchmen... so it's hard to imagine it as an effective standalone (THEMATICALLY, at least) even if it will be a great expose in action and gore

The Damned

02-06-2009, 01:06 AM

Oh, what's this? A PSA about vigilantes? Better watch, citizen, it's the law!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/304441.html

Zombie

02-06-2009, 06:21 PM

It looks so awesome.

I recently just got a great deal on the absolute edition of watchmen; i should be recieving it in the mail any day now. :D

Weirdboyscott

03-05-2009, 09:26 AM

I'm certainly going to go see this movie on opening night, and I just can't wait! I mean I would be seeing it on a midnight showing the night before but my friends have plans, and while I'll miss the costumes and the crazy fans it'll still be worth it.

Guess I should go and get my ticket tomorrow... I mean after all Watchmen so far as outsold 300 4 to 1 in advanced ticket sales, this one is going to be big!

I have my highest hopes for this one, and I'm only really skeptical for the ending, I'm not sure that it'll be on as epic a scale as the comics were.

Haven't made a movie thread in a good long time, last time was some time before UnMod got shut down. I guess this'll just become a general Watchmen discussion thread after the film comes out, but still... try and label yo spoilers.

Wacky

03-05-2009, 09:47 AM

I'm looking forward to a superhero movie where Ozymandias can be treated like the evil dickwad he is.

Of course, people will just say "mwaaah he saved heaps of other people."

Rorschach was right. Damn him, but he was right.

Atomicfog

03-05-2009, 12:52 PM

I am. Though I have a feeling it is going to be quite cheesy, hopefully in a good way -- at least it looks that way based on the trailers, though they're obviously going for serious biz. Guess I'll find out in less than 24 hours.

The Author

03-05-2009, 01:24 PM

Heard some bad things... some very horrible things and some very good things about this.

MechaFone

03-05-2009, 01:40 PM

Man I would so totally catch this. The wife hates big crowds at movies (I do too, who wants to practically sit in a stranger's lap just to watch a movie?) but I might just brave it for this.

Sinewav

03-06-2009, 08:38 AM

For years, I've had trouble taking The Hulk seriously. I thought it was hilariously unrealistic how every time he transformed, all his clothes would rip off his body except for a small strategically placed pair of pants covering his presumably massive green schlong.

Then I go to see The Watchmen.

Good god.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie a lot. It's just that sometimes it seemed that Mr. Manhattan's blue, glowing horse-cock was getting more character development that the Mr. Manhattan himself. Near the end, when he's walking down the stairs you can practically feel the breeze it creates swinging back and forth like a pendulum. It seemed that the only thing missing from the dongitude of this film was a gratuitous close up the damn thing.

I think I'm more than ready to go back to Hulk-pants now. I don't want to ever see another colorful superhero dick again.

prophetik

03-06-2009, 08:42 AM

the old thread was mad old and filled with conjecture. so i started a new thread just to have someone bump the old one within two minutes. oh well, thanks for covering my mistake, darke.

i saw it at midnight tonight. it was what i expected - a relatively fulfilling and artful presentation of the book. i knew it couldn't fulfill everything - particularly the marooned storyline, and the *spoiler* real ending *end spoiler* but it was still an exciting experience. intensely visceral, i had trouble watching a few parts (particularly the scene with the comedian and hooded justice and the scene with the dogs and the knives), but that's to be expected since they're just as visceral as the graphic novel portrayed them. there were some choices i didn't like, but as a whole i thought it was good.

what did you think?

dPaladin

03-06-2009, 08:42 AM

Hahahaha.

I like how the first time you see it, he's split into four people so it's like BAM, quadruple cock.

The movie was really good though. All the shit they changed was either inconsequential, left out due to time constraints, or an improvement. I liked the changed ending and they did a good job of tying it in well. Cinematography was incredible. A guy with me didn't like all the popular music on the soundtrack but it was fine. I liked the acting too for the most part.

prophetik

03-06-2009, 08:52 AM

pointless crap from the old thread.

Sinewav

03-06-2009, 09:10 AM

Since I don't know which of the two threads on this movie is going to take off, I'll go ahead and respond to this one as well.

I liked the movie very much. It was a lot more intelligent than I expected, though I haven't read the graphic novel yet. The underlying themes were many, and they were pretty deep too. Leaves one with a lot to think about after the credits roll. On top of all of that, it was also just plain entertaining. I imagine I'll be seeing this one a few more times while it's still in theaters.

Also, as I subtly alluded to in my post in the other thread (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?p=515094#post515094), I foresee many, many photoshops of Dr. Manhattan's member in the near future.

Sinewav

03-06-2009, 09:17 AM

Hahahaha.

I like how the first time you see it, he's split into four people so it's like BAM, quadruple cock.

I've often wondered whether 'penises' or 'penii' is the proper term for the plural of penis. I usually wind up just hoping that whatever it is, I'll never actually have a reason to use it in a sentence.

That being said, the movie was great. I've actually had a copy of the novel sitting on my shelf for a while now, but I never actually bothered to pick it up. I think I'm going to now. If the book is even half as deep as the movie is, it should be a good read.

The Vagrance

03-06-2009, 09:38 AM

Just got back from seeing it.

To be honest, its kind of a weird movie. I enjoyed it and will certainly watch it again, but it was weird to have something follow the source so damn religiously. Granted, there are changes, but most of the changes are only there to make the movie feel more complete as opposed to having loose-ends or storylines not fully fleshed out (or fleshing out [quite literally] storylines not in the graphic novel).

Examples of this (MAJOR SPOILERS, LIKE HOLY SHIT)

1. The new ending is that the technology that Jon is working on when Rorschach first goes to him is actually a device to emulate his powers, and he is working on it for Veidt. Veidt then uses this technology to cause explosions in major cities around the world, making it seem like Dr. Manhattan was turning against Earth.
2. The Rorshach ink blot test while he's in prison isn't touched upon as much as in the graphic novel.
3. Only very minor references to the Black Freighter in the movie.
4. Nite Owl and girl-whose-name-I-can't-remember-because-its-late-and-I'm-extremely-tired get it on, and its HOT

The acting wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, and I think that the guy who played the Comedian did a quite excellent job of conveying the "Fucked-up-ness" of the character.

UnforgivingEdges

03-06-2009, 12:01 PM

Loved it. Some really great cinematography. Missing a couple minor things that were some of my more important moments in the book, but not a big deal. New ending plot device actually works better in the context of the story, IMO.

Atomicfog

03-06-2009, 12:17 PM

Good movie, maybe great, though not epic, apart from a few scenes. Definitely worth seeing. Disappointing from the minute they head to Antarctica though. I think IGN's review sums it up as I saw it pretty closely.

Arek the Absolute

03-06-2009, 12:46 PM

New ending was better. Thank you for sparing us from horrible cheese.

It is too bad that the majority of issues that this story has *both movie and graphic novel* will be completely over looked.

Went with a group of friends and all they talked about at the end was how rorschach was awesome in the jail scene and that is it. Completely missed a lot of the philisophical and psychological parts of the movie.

Spoiler: ozymandais needed to be more vain. He was kinda timid in the movie until the very end. Also it didn't emphasise on just how much of a fucking genius he is. sure it showed him watching the multpiple screens near the end, but my friends just thought he was watching them one at a time

Arek the Absolute

03-06-2009, 12:49 PM

copy paste from thread in general

New ending was better. Thank you for sparing us from horrible cheese.

It is too bad that the majority of issues that this story has *both movie and graphic novel* will be completely over looked.

Went with a group of friends and all they talked about at the end was how rorschach was awesome in the jail scene and that is it. Completely missed a lot of the philisophical and psychological parts of the movie.

Spoiler: ozymandais needed to be more vain. He was kinda timid in the movie until the very end. Also it didn't emphasise on just how much of a fucking genius he is. sure it showed him watching the multpiple screens near the end, but my friends just thought he was watching them one at a time

DarkeSword

03-06-2009, 01:43 PM

the old thread was mad old and filled with conjecture. this is a newer thread.
Don't make a new thread for the same topic. Post in the thread that exists. :whatevaa:

LuketheXjesse

03-06-2009, 03:43 PM

Saturday Morning Watchmen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTOHMDCX_H0

Gamelore

03-06-2009, 04:03 PM

Not happy with the translation which was nearly literal for 90% of the movie, but almost entirely for the worse the remaining 10% of the time.

More "300" style slow-mo and poor editing. More unconvincing acting.

I'm upset that they made Manhattan out to be a victim. Upset that Nite Owl seemed to care more about Rorschach than what Ozymandias had just done to the world. Upset Rorschach didn't give his memorable "Never" and "Joking, of course."

Particularly upset they made Rorschach into a butcher of humans. He gave the child-murderer a chance to live...

And now that humanity isn't united on the alien front, but on the Manhattan front (which they can totally replicate in their own countries), they don't need each other's help. How could that point be ignored?

However, I did like the portrayal of Comedian. Seemed a bit more convincing than the book.

SoloGamer

03-06-2009, 04:13 PM

i like how the vid you posted has a link to some virus shit in the description.

here's the hq flash version
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/485797

cobaltstarfire

03-06-2009, 04:32 PM

Went with a group of friends and all they talked about at the end was how rorschach was awesome in the jail scene and that is it. Completely missed a lot of the philisophical and psychological parts of the movie.

Most people completely miss the parts of movies that require deep thought, it's really more important to be all like OH MAN THAT WAS SO BADASS AND AWESOME AND THINGS! :P

I haven't seen it yet, but that's because I want to avoid the crowds, it will be the first time I've gone to a theater by myself, and I'd rather not be surrounded by a bunch of crazy males with too much fan boy and "BADASS" flowing through their brains. It's nice to watch a movie in peace.

relyanCe

03-06-2009, 04:37 PM

Me and a friend had just walked out from Push last night when we saw that Watchmen was playing. We contemplated seeing it as well, but decided to put it off for another time.

bad idea?

MechaFone

03-06-2009, 04:39 PM

Me and a friend had just walked out from Push last night when we saw that Watchmen was playing. We contemplated seeing it as well, but decided to put it off for another time.

bad idea?
A good missed opportunity.

relyanCe

03-06-2009, 04:56 PM

Most people completely miss the parts of movies that require deep thought, it's really more important to be all like OH MAN THAT WAS SO BADASS AND AWESOME AND THINGS! :P

I haven't seen it yet, but that's because I want to avoid the crowds, it will be the first time I've gone to a theater by myself, and I'd rather not be surrounded by a bunch of crazy males with too much fan boy and "BADASS" flowing through their brains. It's nice to watch a movie in peace.

hahaha don't go to a movie with me then :razz:

Though I do that kinda stuff mostly when it's just me and a few others that I know in the theatre.

AlphanerdV

03-06-2009, 05:59 PM

I saw it at the Midnight release (dying at work right now...need sleep.). Was it entertaining? Yes very much so. The action scenes were amazing. I thought Rorschach was great, and funny that he was played by Jackie Haley, the rebel from "Bad News Bears".

Now, I have not personally read the graphic novel (something I do intend on Rectifying), but I have heard the gist and understand the premise behind pretty well. What I can tell from what has been told to me though, the changes that they made to the movie only created plot holes. Also, they try to be subtle in the movie, not to reveal details, but they were so blatant that by the end no one even cared about the reveals, because they already knew what was going on. I will explain a little in the spoilers section, lol.

**SPOILER**

If Rorschach accomplished what he was intending to at the end, before Dr. Manhatten stopped him, the world results would have been the same. Whether it was Manhatten or Veidt, the world still would have pulled together, because the basis was still there for cooperation. It didn't make sense for the rest of the group to cave in, and make a Martyr out of Manhatten. As cheesy as it is, the exploding squid monster would have justified their reactions a little more.
*Jupiter's Daddy Issues*. They were so blatantly obvious with the comedian being her father, that when you are near the end of the movie, I could careless about them revealing it in a long drawn-out cutscene.

I did love the part where Veidt is talking in the lobby with all the execs and they were playing an elevator music version of "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears.

Sensai

03-06-2009, 06:01 PM

I've often wondered whether 'penises' or 'penii' is the proper term for the plural of penis. I usually wind up just hoping that whatever it is, I'll never actually have a reason to use it in a sentence.
Penises. Asked my highschool English teacher.

So...penises, if you can believe a random guy's highschool English teacher.

dPaladin

03-06-2009, 06:06 PM

Penises. Asked my highschool English teacher.

So...penises, if you can believe a random guy's highschool English teacher.
It's penises because the -us -i ending is used for first declension Latin words, which penis is not.

they were playing an elevator music version of "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" by Tears for Fears.
What the hell, why didn't I catch that? I love that song.

Also what's with all the people seeing the movie at midnight when they haven't read the book and don't know anything about it? I don't understand your motivations!

cobaltstarfire

03-06-2009, 06:27 PM

hahaha don't go to a movie with me then :razz:

Though I do that kinda stuff mostly when it's just me and a few others that I know in the theatre.

I could deal with a lack of peace if I was with other people, but to be a lone female in a crowd full of adolescent fan boys...no thanks I'll pass on that horror, or else smuggle a very large stick in with which to abuse anyone that comes remotely near me.

prophetik

03-06-2009, 06:37 PM

i live in a college town (cornell and ithaca college are here, about 35k students between them) and the atmosphere was definitely different than it would have been back home in buffalo. i kinda liked it.

and, YES, comedian was excellent. his attitude, all the different shots of him at different ages...absolutely excellent.

AlphanerdV

03-06-2009, 06:41 PM

Also what's with all the people seeing the movie at midnight when they haven't read the book and don't know anything about it? I don't understand your motivations![/quote]

My brother followed the book a lot and I went to go see the movie with him last night. Obviously my opinion is not quite as valid, I understand that. :-P

My brother said there was a lot lost with the transition though. A lot of the story seems underdeveloped, but I am sure the extended version that the director will be releasing on DVD will fill some of the gaps.

Maco70

03-06-2009, 06:43 PM

It's penises because the -us -i ending is used for first declension Latin words, which penis is not.

And I won't get to see it until sunday.
=(

Jaybell

03-06-2009, 07:01 PM

It was a pretty good adaptation, I thought. I was worried friends we had brought along who hadn't read the comic would be confused, but they seemed to enjoy it quite a bit.

I didn't like how the ending felt rushed, or how Rorschach sounded like Batman, or how a good chunk of the movie was filmed in super slo mo vision. Still, it could have been much, much worse, and it's about as good an adaptation to film as we can probably get.

Native Jovian

03-06-2009, 07:40 PM

So, wait, they had full frontal nudity? Are they even allowed to do that in a rated R movie?

prophetik

03-06-2009, 07:45 PM

it wasn't the point of the movie, so yeah, they are. you saw everything in titanic, and that was only pg-13.

relyanCe

03-06-2009, 08:27 PM

Watchmen: Rated NC-17 for flaccid atomic wang exposure.

prophetik

03-06-2009, 08:40 PM

don't forget a vivid portrayal of just how much of miss jupiters bongos were from a pushup.

Arek the Absolute

03-06-2009, 08:57 PM

don't forget a vivid portrayal of just how much of miss jupiters bongos were from a pushup.

yea push up that was super padded

prophetik

03-06-2009, 09:18 PM

that was the point of my statement, yes.

DJMetal

03-07-2009, 04:40 AM

I went to see it last night. I was disappointed: Only one person in costume. To their merit, though, they were a very convincing Rorschach.

03-07-2009, 06:49 AM

I don't know what watchmen are. Should I still see this movie?

Atomicfog

03-07-2009, 06:50 AM

I was thinking that Jackie Earle Haley, aka Rorschach, would be so perfect for the part of Cletus Kasady (Carnage) in the Spiderman movies.

JJT

03-07-2009, 08:38 AM

just got back. thought it was about as good an adaptation as one could hope for, all things considered.

the look of the movie is perfect. startlingly true to the source (having the original artist on board helps, i suppose)

i don't think synder is particularly good at getting performances out of his actors (silk spectre and night owl were pretty wooden), but the comedian was perfect. spot on.

Sindra

03-07-2009, 12:58 PM

Too bad they'll never touch upon that in Spider-Man Movieverse.....unless someone revamps it like the Batman franchise.

Weirdboyscott

03-07-2009, 02:15 PM

I was worried the most about how the new ending was going to go over, but it went over much better than I could have imagined. The comic ending had more shock value, but when it's all said and done it still went over practically identically.

If there was a drinking game for this movie, you'd get plastered fast if you had to drink after every wang shown.

The Vagrance

03-07-2009, 03:00 PM

i don't think synder is particularly good at getting performances out of his actors (silk spectre and night owl were pretty wooden), but the comedian was perfect. spot on.

I actually thought that Silk Spectre was the only person who was bad, and in fact I loved Nite Owl just because he played the middle-aged mid-life crisis pretty well.

SoloGamer

03-07-2009, 03:11 PM

I don't know what watchmen are. Should I still see this movie?
I walked in knowing nothing about Watchmen and thoroughly enjoyed myself, so yeah go for it.

Bleck

03-07-2009, 03:23 PM

I didn't think there were any problems at all with the acting

Zombie

03-07-2009, 03:28 PM

hands down the best movie i have ever seen. might see it again today.

Upthorn

03-07-2009, 03:54 PM

It's penises because the -us -i ending is used for first declension Latin words, which penis is not.
No. It's not "peni" because the -us -> -i pluralization rule is used for words that end in "us", which penis is not.
Also, the proper plural is "penes", but nobody would actually understand you if you used it, so "penises" is probably the better choice.

I didn't like how Rorschach sounded like Batman.
I haven't seen the movie, but when I read the graphic novel a few years back, I got the distinct impression that Rorschach was supposed to be based on Batman. 1940's Batman, who solved crimes via detective work, had no compunction with busting a few heads if that's what was necessary to get the rats to talk, and had serious psychological issues from being an eye-witness to the murder of his parents.
(And Night Owl was clearly 1960's Batman, who solved crimes via impossibly contrived gadgets.)
Though it would not have been unreasonable just to read Dick Tracy into Rorschach, instead...

Weirdboyscott

03-07-2009, 04:40 PM

I got the distinct impression that Rorschach was supposed to be based on Batman.

Surprisingly most of the Watchmen were originally based off of Charlton Comics characters, and not DC characters. DC bought out Charlton, but still.. the Charlton created characters inspired Moore to come up with the Watchmen.

Rorschach - The Question
Nite Owl I and II - The first two versions of the Blue Beetle
Dr Manhattan - Captain Atom
The Comedian - Peacemaker
Ozymandias - Thunderbolt

Though these origins don't throw out the idea that you can see aspects of Batman in most of these non-super powered heroes.

Upthorn

03-07-2009, 07:31 PM

Surprisingly most of the Watchmen were originally based off of Charlton Comics characters, and not DC characters. DC bought out Charlton, but still.. the Charlton created characters inspired Moore to come up with the Watchmen.

Rorschach - The Question
Nite Owl I and II - The first two versions of the Blue Beetle
Dr Manhattan - Captain Atom
The Comedian - Peacemaker
Ozymandias - Thunderbolt

Though these origins don't throw out the idea that you can see aspects of Batman in most of these non-super powered heroes.

I would only ascribe Batmanism to Rorschach and Nite Owl.
Comedian I see as more like The Joker than like any hero, and The character of Ozymandias resonated more with Richard Reeds for me. But then, I'm totally unfamiliar with Charlton Comics characters.

Hemophiliac

03-07-2009, 07:41 PM

people shouldn't be making comparisons of Rorschach to batman, the only comparison to be made is poor acting decisions by Christian Bale.

Rorschach is described as having a creepy monotone voice by Laurie in the book, it makes sense for him to speak that way. it also made any time he raised his voice very effective because he hardly ever changed the manner he speaks.

there's more that could be gone into on this subject it's just not worth making the comparison imo.

DarkeSword

03-07-2009, 08:17 PM

M W

03-07-2009, 08:19 PM

In the movie theatre, you could obviously tell who hadn’t read the book. There was obviously a lot of giggling in the back row coming from those 15 year olds who only snuk into an 18A movie. Those guys know how to put a hamper on things.

To their credit though, that sex scene was really drawn out.

reelmojo

03-07-2009, 08:29 PM

I purposely didn't read the graphic novel in anticipation of this movie because I wanted to know nothing about a super hero movie going in for a change. I was shocked at how adult the movie is. It perfectly balances subtlety (the very slight facial expressions of Dr. Manhattan) and brutality (Rorschach).

Also, other than the voice Rorschach didn't make me think of Batman once. He's more like a film noir hero than Batman has ever been. He was probably my favorite character, but it's pretty hard to choose.

Toadofsky

03-07-2009, 08:48 PM

I don't plan on seeing this movie. I've never read the book. I was going to, but after seeing Dr. Manhattan being nude throughout the whole thing, I didn't want to. And I from what you guys have said, yeah, I figured he'd be nude throughout it. I know, staying true to the book.

I'm not booing the film, I think it's great they're following the original book as close as possible. But I just have no desire to read it/see it.

Yes, I'm aware that the book has very large underlying themes about super heroes, war, and questioning morale, all those sorts of great things to tell in a story, but, it's just not a book for me.

Guess I'm the minority on this one, sorry guys.

DarkeSword

03-07-2009, 08:58 PM

So...why are you posting in the thread?

JJT

03-07-2009, 09:11 PM

So...why are you posting in the thread?
I love you so much.

Zombie

03-07-2009, 09:12 PM

JH Sounds

03-07-2009, 09:15 PM

The opening credits sequence was damn awesome. I'm not sure about the grassy knoll bit though. I'll have to think about that.

Also, I like how they seemed to revise the ending for a post-9/11 audience.

dPaladin

03-07-2009, 09:36 PM

Toadofsky

03-07-2009, 09:38 PM

Wait... So you don't want to read it just because one of the characters is naked in some parts of it?

:?

That's one of the reasons. Sounds superficial/stupid, I know. I've read only a few things of Alan Moore, and I just couldn't get into most of it.

Am I coming off as a prude?

And I'm curious as to why me being from KY has anything to do with my comment.

Never mind, forget I said anything jeez.

prophetik

03-07-2009, 09:59 PM

yeah, dr. manhattan's naked through the whole thing, but it's not like they're like OMG PENIX the whole time. it's artfully done so that, after you've read it, you can't imagine him wearing anything. even the manthong was a little weird when he had to wear it.

i will admit, though. nixon's bloody nose was HUGE. even bigger than manhattan's super-saiyan-ized cock.

JH Sounds

03-07-2009, 10:24 PM

They might've put that in Billy Crudup's contract. :razz:

EDIT: I just noticed that Neil Armstrong says "Good luck, Mr. Gorsky." :lol:

Red9

03-07-2009, 10:41 PM

I read the book a few years ago in high school cuz it looked interesting and was the only comic book at the library. Usually when I see movies coming out for something i like I just sigh and go "lets see how they mess this stuff up." But from how you guys all react I can't wait til it comes overseas so I can see it....in about a month.

This didn't make any sense to me, but then I saw

Location: KY

and I was like, "Oh yeah."

Meaning what?

prophetik

03-07-2009, 11:00 PM

meaning, conservative.

Red9

03-07-2009, 11:07 PM

Relevence is? Bah whatever I'm overreacting.

dPaladin

03-07-2009, 11:15 PM

It means people from Kentucky are less likely to approve of a movie with nudity -- no matter how intellectual the movie or how blue the nudity is -- because they were born in raised in a culture that strongly disapproves of that sort of thing.

Toadofsky

03-07-2009, 11:16 PM

meaning, conservative.

God no. I hate that term. I have no stand on politics whatsoever, nor will I, I'm neutral, and I'd rather be shot then follow idiots like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Hannity, or Bill O' Reilly. I guess if you mean conservative thinking, not likely, considering I've never researched on what they're thinking is.

I understand that's not the point of the movie of Dr. Manhattan being nude, I do, it's just something that would bother me with the movie.

And DPaladin, I apologize, I thought you were implying I'm stupid, which is what I'll probably get for opening my mouth. I've seen movies with nudity in the past (Braveheart, Across The Universe, Beowulf, Titanic), I just don't care for that sort of thing, it's just, I don't know, I just never felt it was necessary in a movie and I refrain from seeing movies with that sort of stuff. But that's just me, I'm not saying that films need to be censored or anything, that's none of my business, and that's up to the director/artist to what he wants to do with a film. If that's what he/she does with their movie, fine, go ahead, I probably won't see it. But that doesn't mean I want to ruin everyone else's enjoyment of it, or make picket signs against it.

Look, I won't say anything else about the movie and go through the obligatory flames I'll get for what I said before. I'm sorry, seriously.

:sad:

Hemophiliac

03-07-2009, 11:54 PM

dPaladin

03-07-2009, 11:59 PM

God no. I hate that term. I have no stand on politics whatsoever, nor will I, I'm neutral, and I'd rather be shot then follow idiots like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Hannity, or Bill O' Reilly. I guess if you mean conservative thinking, not likely, considering I've never researched on what they're thinking is.

And DPaladin, I apologize, I thought you were implying I'm stupid
You're fine, man. I wasn't saying that you were stupid, though I think it's likely that you're a bit conservative regardless of whether or not you've read up on it. Really though, my point was that it's EASIER to be conservative around here even if you don't set out that way, simply because so many other people are and actively setting yourself against your friends and parents is difficult and unrewarding.

But I'd like you to reconsider and watch the damn thing anyway.

EDIT: So, anyone think the small change at the beginning of Dan visiting Veidt instead of Rorshach weird?
To be honest, it didn't bother me. I wish there was a lot more characterization in the movie, especially for Veidt, but that scene worked okay. I don't remember the original too well though.

Palpable

03-08-2009, 12:24 AM

Much better than I was expecting, I enjoyed it a lot. The fact that it struck so closely to the graphic novel paid off nicely IMO, and they did a fine job editing out parts that weren't necessary. I thought the ending was improved too; it's tied to the story better, feels less out of the blue.

Gripes: wish they had spent more time on Veidt and his background - you didn't get the sense at all that he was the world's smartest man. Definitely wish there had been less slo-mo - I feel nearly every time a director uses slo-mo outside of action scenes, they're hitting you over the head to pay attention. And yeah, that actress who played Laurie was a really weak link. Good acting otherwise.

prophetik

03-08-2009, 12:27 AM

So, anyone think the small change at the beginning of Dan visiting Veidt instead of Rorshach weird?

I think that they might've done that to affirm the mask-killer theory to Dan, because Rorshach would've been firmly convinced of it either way. Too bad though, it leaves out the line where Rorshach questions Veidt's sexuality...though hinted at later when Dan is on the computer after he figures out the password, there is a folder labeled "Boys".

that's a good point, i missed that. and i missed the folder. i love little touches like that =)

and no, toadofsky, i wasn't calling you a political conservative. i was calling your viewpoint conservative in the traditional sense - you would be more apt to find dr. manhattan's cojones inappropriate than, say, someone who grew up in cali. for what it's worth, i'm a conservative in this respect, so it's not like i'm insulting you.

Toadofsky

03-08-2009, 01:20 AM

and no, toadofsky, i wasn't calling you a political conservative. i was calling your viewpoint conservative in the traditional sense - you would be more apt to find dr. manhattan's cojones inappropriate than, say, someone who grew up in cali. for what it's worth, i'm a conservative in this respect, so it's not like i'm insulting you.

Ah, I get ya, I figured it out after I posted.

Well, I like to rent movies edited from some websites (I won't name where, they'll probably get shut down again), so if when Watchmen comes out on dvd, and if they can edit it, then I'll give it a shot. :razz:

EdgeCrusher

03-08-2009, 03:03 AM

Scared of wang eh?

Anyway, anyone downloaded the watchmen game on XBL yet? I'm downloading the first episode of it right now to see how bad it is.

prophetik

03-08-2009, 03:05 AM

it got quite poor ratings online so far.

Toadofsky

03-08-2009, 04:10 AM

Scared of wang eh?

Nah, just don't want to see it bouncing all over the screen (I doubt it does, just roll with the comment now), as Earnest P. World would say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS9_uMwt-lA

Dopple Boppler

03-08-2009, 04:50 AM

Nah, just don't want to see it bouncing all over the screen (I doubt it does, just roll with the comment now), as Earnest P. World would say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS9_uMwt-lA

They pulled the whole glowy blue penis thing off rather tastefully. If you're going to not see the movie because of something like that, don't see it for the part where Nite Owl and Silk Spectre have sex; it is hands down one of the worst sex scenes of all time. When naked Malin Akerman can't salvage that kind of scene, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

Blue penis conundrums aside, Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach has to be one of the best casting decisions ever made. The rest of the movie could have sucked (thankfully it didn't), but it was worth the price of admission just for Rorschach alone.

Weirdboyscott

03-08-2009, 04:54 AM

Toadofsky

03-08-2009, 05:25 AM

Dr Manhattan's nudity it more tasteful than it seems like it would be, the uniform glow of his skin kind of camouflages his junk. Even if the blue penis was blurred out you'd still have the numerous quite extended sex scenes, with a rape in there too... which while uncomfortable are (all mostly) important to the story. If those were edited out then you wouldn't get the full picture, and you'd really miss out in the end.

If you're too bashful about seeing it in public then maybe rent the unedited DVD or something, if you can't handle the movie as is then it isn't for you, to be blunt.

Well, I've seen V for Vendetta edited (two versions from two different sites), and actually, they did a good job of it. One or two things weren't clear: the girl's note had little footage in the first cut I saw, the second cut made a little more sense, although I figured that she was a lesbian.

I don't think Dr. Manhattan wouldn't be tastefully done, just, not something I'd want to see, I'm beatin a dead horse here. Yeah, I heard about the sex, yadda, yadda... there was a rape? Yikes (I've never read the book)...

You're right it may not be a movie for me, I don't mind you being blunt.
God I'm becoming more and more of a dork aren't I?

Alright, you guys discuss the film, I'm bowing out of this topic for good.

Cottus&Gyes

03-08-2009, 05:32 AM

Not sure how I feel about the movie, definitely not what I expected at all.

PS
Ozymandias was by far the best character in my opinion, wish he had a larger roll in the movie.

LuketheXjesse

03-08-2009, 07:00 AM

Saw the movie

Yeah it was good. I can't really say much more than that. The last hour it gets really kick ass just for the philosophical themes touched upon.

I don't think Dr. Manhattan wouldn't be tastefully done, just, not something I'd want to see, I'm beatin a dead horse here. Yeah, I heard about the sex, yadda, yadda... there was a rape? Yikes (I've never read the book)...

They got him before the actual rape. And it's a glowing blue penis, it's no different than a roman statue.

Dr Manhattan's nudity it more tasteful than it seems like it would be, the uniform glow of his skin kind of camouflages his junk. Even if the blue penis was blurred out you'd still have the numerous quite extended sex scenes, with a rape in there too... which while uncomfortable are (all mostly) important to the story. If those were edited out then you wouldn't get the full picture, and you'd really miss out in the end.

Why are sex scenes uncomfortable? I don't get this. Also there's only 1 REAL sex scene. And it's pretty damn short.

As for the rape see above.

it got quite poor ratings online so far.

fuck them

Dyne

03-08-2009, 07:23 AM

The film made me think a bit, which few films recently have done. In all honesty, could what happened in the film have really happened in life? Maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately, we don't have super-powered human beings running around saving the day or destroying it.

I think in the end, the real question is, do the ends justify the means.

Red9

03-08-2009, 07:47 AM

I think in the end, the real question is, do the ends justify the means.

that sounds like a thread for wacky, AD, PP and zircon to decide upon.....

Sinewav

03-08-2009, 09:15 AM

that sounds like a thread for wacky, AD, PP and zircon to decide upon.....

Dear god, no.

Slypherous

03-08-2009, 10:18 AM

I saw the trailer in Dark Knight, and bought the graphic novel the next day. I loved the book, and was sad they had to cut The Tales of the Black Freighter and Under the Hood, but was expecting it. It cuts a bit too much out, and it makes the book a bit more deeper with the fact that Moore actually took time to show back stories and side notes.

It's too bad they couldn't show more on Ozymandias. He came across as a little bitch in the movie. Everyone else came off pretty well I thought. I thought the new ending was okay for the movie crowd, but didn't like how they had to make Manhattan look like the bad guy.

I've heard people complain about the video game they're making. I think it's a great idea. You get to see and do things only alluded to in the graphic novel like going after the Underboss and other gangs

Red9

03-08-2009, 10:35 AM

Dear god, no.

That would be an epic thread I dare say.....like, like, like..two deathstar rays firing simultaneously at each other...at close proximity

I can see it now....the day PPR got nuked.....

Halt

03-08-2009, 04:46 PM

I saw Watchmen, Bought the paperback graphic novel. I loved this SO fucking much, I'm going to subscribe to DC Universe Comics.

God damn Watchmen was fucking amazing.

LuketheXjesse

03-08-2009, 05:52 PM

It's too bad they couldn't show more on Ozymandias. He came across as a little bitch in the movie.

Is this why he beats the shit out of two superheroes at once?

prophetik

03-08-2009, 05:55 PM

he's pretty fast and all that.

i loved in that scene when rorschach jumped down from the pedastal and caught himself with one hand to prevent from being noisy. SO cool.

relyanCe

03-08-2009, 06:49 PM

I can see it now....the day PPR got nuked.....

Y'know... i really can't see anyone really complaining about this if it happened.

EdgeCrusher

03-08-2009, 06:54 PM

Got the game last night. Its very bland by even beat em up means. Lots of character line repeating by the enemies, just like mercenaries 2 (BEHIND THOSE BUSHES, BEHIND THOSE TREES!). It does have the novelty factor of playing as the characters though, but you start out with no moves besides punch and kick, and learn moves as you find little tokens in the first chapter and so on. I'd only recommend it for people who are obsessed with the book and movie.

Halt

03-08-2009, 06:54 PM

he's pretty fast and all that.

i loved in that scene when rorschach jumped down from the pedastal and caught himself with one hand to prevent from being noisy. SO cool.

Hell yeah. Rorschach is probably my favorite character

"None of you seem to understand I'm not locked up in here with you, your locked up in here with me!" Fucking awesome.

Weirdboyscott

03-08-2009, 08:16 PM

Why are sex scenes uncomfortable? I don't get this. Also there's only 1 REAL sex scene. And it's pretty damn short.

Was just saying that if Toadofsky was too hesitant too see the movie because of the blue wang, that he would have plenty of other things to make him shy away from the movie.

There were at least 4 sex scenes in the film.

Jon and Laurie, Dan and Laurie twice, and then the rape scene. In comparison to most of the movies I've seen in the past several years, these sex scenes last much longer and show a lot more than usual. Even outside of these scenes theres some more non-blue wang, man ass, and breasts.

Just trying to say that anybody concerned about nudity will have a lot to worry about in this film, is all.