OCR TF2: New Server forthcoming - new server IPs and other stuff

[Sensai]

loldrama

You guys are like a butch lesbain couple: All of the bitching, none of the sex.

/tear @ lack-o'-sex

@ Dhsu: I know what you mean. I've recently started playing some servers with a few other people (I'm sorry, I'm stopping, I swear I'm coming back!) and I've come to the conclusion that the Internet is a harsh place.

Seriously, people are assholes. I'm glad that the OCR server is up and that I'm welcome there...'cause it's like Mayberry compared to the Chinatown of the other servers.

(Wooh, obscure movies and TV show references!)

[Bleck]

loldrama

You guys are like a butch lesbain couple: All of the bitching, none of the sex.

I wish I was a lesbain

[atmuh]

I wish I was a lesbain

lets stop wishing and fulfill our dreams
TONIGHT!

[duckyboycantfly]

Holy crap, ducky joined other forums!!
I was actually there first. Been there for a while now.

Like I said, I only joined here because of the server. This thread is enough to scare me away from the others.

Other servers suck. I joined a random one while steel was up, head shot an entire team (I was playing defense), and half of them rage quit, yelling at me about hacks. Of course, it wasn't the fact then when they got to the cart, they crouched down to avoid me, but to the sides, so I had a wide open shot.

Every time.

[EdgeCrusher]

I ROFL at the scout thing, when no one does shit about 4 or 5 sentries in dustbowl dominating unfairly.

[duckyboycantfly]

I ROFL at the scout thing, when no one does shit about 4 or 5 sentries in dustbowl dominating unfairly.
Spy+Uber+Demoman/Pyro = bye sentries

derp

[atmuh]

Spy+Uber+Demoman/Pyro = bye sentries

derp

hes talking about if your team is full of scouts then youre screwed
which is true
except last night sentries were not a problem






also

Hey, just want to make something clear:

If you're gonna play on this server, leave your attitude at the door please. It's okay to be frustrated, but it's not okay to start trash-talking and shit-talking your own teammates. I had a guy (colin) tell me that I "cost us the whole game" when I accidentally messed up his chances of doing a ninja cap on dustbowl.

We won the round less than two minutes later.

Newsflash: the game is called Team Fortress 2. Just because you die doesn't mean the whole team's gonna lose the game.

Same guy said to someone else (his own teammate) later that night "Hey, do me a favor and stop sucking dick."

Sorry, there's no place for that on this server. I was a big advocate of OCR getting its own server so I could have fun without having to deal with assholes. If I see or hear shit like that again, expect to get kicked off the server. There are plenty of people who are always trying to get onto the server that have no problem just having fun.

ya

[EdgeCrusher]

Actually seems like if theres not a few people from here on a team, teamwork on the OCR server sucks ass. That's why you can't get an uber to save your life to help out on sentry kills.

[Dhsu]

If the other team is good it's actually pretty hard to keep your uber all the way to the sentry. I've lost so many ubers or had to use them early because of random pyros, scouts, soldiers, etc.

[atmuh]

well now that the backburner health is gone many pyros are going back to the old flamethrower which is gonna make uber sentry kills a ton harder to pull off

[supremespleen]

Yeah it's all just too much bullshit and no one will even let me play without constantly riding me about every stupid thing i do that's 100% outside of my control so i'll just ifnd other serversThis reminds me of that colin guy.

That guy was an asshole :3

[Dhsu]

well now that the backburner health is gone many pyros are going back to the old flamethrower which is gonna make uber senry kills a ton harder to pull off
AGhaghgughgh so true.

[Rambo]

This reminds me of that colin guy.

That guy was an asshole :3

Not was. Is.

[Dhsu]

Haha, how are you friends with him again?

[Rambo]

Haha, how are you friends with him again?

Yeah, I really don't know. It just kinda happened... we all know each other up in Canada right?

But yeah, he is an asshole. And I always tell him to STFU when he starts trash talking in games. Every game. The problem is he's really smart... just not people smart, so he's hard to argue with. When he doesn't shut up I just team switch and own him. I'll warn him again not to be a dick though. If he persists, I wouldn't much care if he was banned. lol

Better that than giving canadians a bad rep!

Also... get your ass on TF2 tonight Dhsu!

[Dhsu]

Oh yeah, I heard this is your last hurrah. Don't worry, I'll be sure to give you a domination you won't soon forget!

[Effef]

Spy+Uber+Demoman/Pyro = bye sentries

derp

Except that nobody ever does this. You can set up a smartly placed sentry and a dispenser right around the edge of the grain silo on the second point, first stage of dustbowl and dominate an entire team. And by chance it does get destroyed, your dispenser is still there to help you build another. The only real problem are spies, and usually a friendly pyro or engie critwrench takes care of those (or they let themselves be known by taking out the snipers that are usually around in the back).

[atmuh]

Yeah, I really don't know. It just kinda happened... we all know each other up in Canada right?

But yeah, he is an asshole. And I always tell him to STFU when he starts trash talking in games. Every game. The problem is he's really smart... just not people smart, so he's hard to argue with. When he doesn't shut up I just team switch and own him. I'll warn him again not to be a dick though. If he persists, I wouldn't much care if he was banned. lol

Better that than giving canadians a bad rep!

Also... get your ass on TF2 tonight Dhsu!

so what actually is the crazy canadian tf2 party irl friend group anyways ive been trying to figure it out!

[Powerlord]

Except that nobody ever does this. You can set up a smartly placed sentry and a dispenser right around the edge of the grain silo on the second point, first stage of dustbowl and dominate an entire team. And by chance it does get destroyed, your dispenser is still there to help you build another. The only real problem are spies, and usually a friendly pyro or engie critwrench takes care of those (or they let themselves be known by taking out the snipers that are usually around in the back).

A spy taking out a Sniper when there's a perfectly good sentry to gank?!

And they call themselves spies?!

Pssh....

Actually, I do stuff like that if (and this is a big if) I think the Sniper is out of the sentry's range or the sentry is too well guarded for me to reach it (yes, this means that it'll probably kill me before I can recloak).

P.S. Despite playing Spy a lot lately, I still have 3 more hours clocked as Medic at this time. So, when people say "We need more medics" I'm loathe to switch to Medic because it doesn't really interest me that much, even though I'm (IMHO) good at it.

[Effef]

P.S. Despite playing Spy a lot lately, I still have 3 more hours clocked as Medic at this time. So, when people say "We need more medics" I'm loathe to switch to Medic because it doesn't really interest me that much, even though I'm (IMHO) good at it.

Yeah, I used to medic a lot back in the day. It really is a thankless job these days, and its made even worse with the abundance of Pyros.

Its still a great rush to steamroll an entire team with a good heavy or soldier though.

[Bahamut]

I generally play soldier & medic, and yeah, while I'm pretty good at them, it's only because I'm currently playing on a crappy computer. When I get back to school I'll probably play more of a variety of classes since I'd like to be more useful than at just two classes (even soldiering can get stale).

Edit: So I noticed that the rtv is activated via Mani Admin Mod - looking into it, I'm currently about to set it so that 35% is the minimum threshold in order to get a map change, and 33% of players typing rtv is the minimum threshold to start a rtv. 4 is still going to be the minimum # of players needed to activate a rtv, regardless of the 35%, but if 4 is less than 33% of the in game players, then 33% of the in game players is required.

Also currently, this is the vote map list for rtv:

tc_hydro
cp_well
cp_granary
cp_dustbowl
cp_gravelpit
ctf_2fort
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine

Should I axe any from this list? Mani Admin Mod chooses from these maps randomly for rtv.

Lastly, anyone have radio streams to suggest for me to add for a radio plugin? I'm going to look into installing SourceMod radio soon for the server.

[atmuh]

radio

http://beatdropfm.listen2myradio.com/
beatdrop fm

wait can a stream be saved from there i dont even know

[Bleck]

The problem is he's really smart... just not people smart, so he's hard to argue with.

trust me when I say he's not

I know exactly the type of person he is, and only Canada seems to have these idiots

Edit: Make the radio stream nothing but Beck.

[Dhsu]

The new Ormgas would be cool.

[Zephyr]

I generally play soldier & medic, and yeah, while I'm pretty good at them, it's only because I'm currently playing on a crappy computer. When I get back to school I'll probably play more of a variety of classes since I'd like to be more useful than at just two classes (even soldiering can get stale).

Edit: So I noticed that the rtv is activated via Mani Admin Mod - looking into it, I'm currently about to set it so that 35% is the minimum threshold in order to get a map change, and 33% of players typing rtv is the minimum threshold to start a rtv. 4 is still going to be the minimum # of players needed to activate a rtv, regardless of the 35%, but if 4 is less than 33% of the in game players, then 33% of the in game players is required.

Also currently, this is the vote map list for rtv:

tc_hydro
cp_well
cp_granary
cp_dustbowl
cp_gravelpit
ctf_2fort
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine

Should I axe any from this list? Mani Admin Mod chooses from these maps randomly for rtv.

Lastly, anyone have radio streams to suggest for me to add for a radio plugin? I'm going to look into installing SourceMod radio soon for the server.
It's sweet that we're getting radio, I saw that on another server and loved it. As for recommendations, definitely ormgas if it works, I know it streams differently than others.

As for rtv it'd be good to have a custom map or two, that way, even if it's not on the rotation, but if people really want to play them they can vote.

[Bahamut]

So what custom maps should I add? I added pl_dustbowl_b4 to the list, and I'm sure there's a few others people want added.

Also, suggest more radio streams people - I want a good number of radio stations to select from before implementing this tonight.

[Xerol Oplan]

Toy Fort certainly. Also, since Steel seems to be hit-or-miss with both people, put it in there so we could choose to play it if we wanted to. Are there any other decent payload maps? Not that we're not trying enough new ones already, but I wouldn't mind continuing to try out new maps and keeping the ones that we like.

[Zephyr]

We could try the castle one, and toy fort is pretty good.

[atmuh]

still waiting for cyberpunk :[

[Rambo]

so what actually is the crazy canadian tf2 party irl friend group anyways ive been trying to figure it out!

I don't understand what this means. There are so few verbs that I can't grasp the question. :| lol

trust me when I say he's not

I know exactly the type of person he is, and only Canada seems to have these idiots

Well I'm sure you know something I don't, but I went to school with him for 6 years and know that he graduated HS with a 94% average focusing on all science and math courses at the university entrance level. And is now getting straight 'A's at Waterloo.

[Effef]

Well I'm sure you know something I don't, but I went to school with him for 6 years and know that he graduated HS with a 94% average focusing on all science and math courses at the university entrance level. And is now getting straight 'A's at Waterloo.

Being book smart does not make you smart in conversation.

[atmuh]

Being book smart does not make you smart in conversation.

ya why do you think i cant type or talk

[supremespleen]

Last night Rambo? I'll try my best to get on, but seeing as I'm at spleen's house, it'll be hard to register for my slot reservation... let alone play

(fyi this is ducky)

[Bahamut]

Toy Fort certainly. Also, since Steel seems to be hit-or-miss with both people, put it in there so we could choose to play it if we wanted to. Are there any other decent payload maps? Not that we're not trying enough new ones already, but I wouldn't mind continuing to try out new maps and keeping the ones that we like.

There aren't many payload maps as of yet, but that's because payload is a more recent map style that debuted with the medic achievement pack.

[Zephyr]

I found a great radio station we can stream, a -Q- server had it in their music page and I loved it, this was their music selection;

from dj.fm
Trance
Vocal Trance
Chillout
House
Goa-Psy Trance
Hardcore
Progressive
Euro Dance
Drums 'n' Bass
Techno
DJ Mixes

from 1.fm;
Rap
Hard Rock and Heavy Metal
Alternative Rock
50s & 60s
80s
90s
Country
Flashback
Bombay Beats
Smooth Jazz
Urban Adult

^ I think that list probably provides something for everyone, I personally love the trance station. If you get the radio thing working then... pretty please?

I was also playing on cp_lazytown and it was pretty fun (specifically the nighttime version.)

[atmuh]

where the balls is the emo

[Bleck]

Well I'm sure you know something I don't, but I went to school with him for 6 years and know that he graduated HS with a 94% average focusing on all science and math courses at the university entrance level. And is now getting straight 'A's at Waterloo.

who cares

also hey are you guys from ontario I am from ontario!

[Choccy]

I just bought TF2.

Would OCR let me play until I learn the basics, and after that?

[Powerlord]

I just bought TF2.

Would OCR let me play until I learn the basics, and after that?

I can't imagine anyone objecting. Well, not too loudly.

[Choccy]

I can't imagine anyone objecting. Well, not too loudly.

Thanks. Ill play after it finishes updating. :<

[atmuh]

i like noobs theyre fun just when i yell at you to do something LISTEN TO ME

[Rambo]

Being book smart does not make you smart in conversation.

That's why I said he wasn't people smart....

And I hope you're on ducky!!!

[Choccy]

I'm frustrated, I can't get it to find any servers.

[atmuh]

absolutely none come up in the server list?
did you try adding the ip address for the ocr server under the favorites tab?

[Gollgagh]

i like noobs theyre fun just when i yell at you to do something LISTEN TO ME

like change from scout amirite

just makin' a joke don't hurt me

[Choccy]

absolutely none come up in the server list?
did you try adding the ip address for the ocr server under the favorites tab?

I get a "server is not responding".

And yeah, absolutely none come up.

[Choccy]

BTW, does Steam or TF2 conflict with Vista?

[Powerlord]

BTW, does Steam or TF2 conflict with Vista?

I use it under Vista with no problems (other than TF2 bringing up the crash dialog on exit).

[atmuh]

BTW, does Steam or TF2 conflict with Vista?

is your windows firewall blocking steam?
its possible that you might need to hit ALLOW
check your firewall settings




also holy rofl i killed like 6 people that were all pushing the cart in overtime at the last inch of goldrush by myself as a pyro

[Choccy]

Well, I even disabled the firewall, and it still isn't working.

[atmuh]

in steam can you navigate to the various pages (like all the different games you can buy)
also if you hit the servers button on the bottom of steam what comes up

[Choccy]

Yes, I can navigate the shop.

And in servers, I see none. There is OCR server in favorites, but it is marked as 0 players and 2000 latency. It says it doesn't respond.

[atmuh]

id imagine that you saw this already but
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493

[Bahamut]

Bah, I'm too tired to implement it tonight...maybe tomorrow night.

Also, I did not see a lot of those options on 1.fm Zephyr - that site seems to have a very ugly design though.

[Powerlord]

id imagine that you saw this already but
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1456-EUDN-2493

Gotta love how they list every major anti-virus on the Programs Which Interfere with Steam (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289) page.

[Effef]

If you have Norton Internet Security, uninstall it. Its a piece of shit anyway, but it wouldn't let Firefox or Steam work at all on my cousins new laptop and the only way we could get it to let them through was uninstall it.

[Dyne]

Yes, I can navigate the shop.

And in servers, I see none. There is OCR server in favorites, but it is marked as 0 players and 2000 latency. It says it doesn't respond.

Refresh your favorites. It shows up like that for me as well.

[duckyboycantfly]

I just bought TF2.

Would OCR let me play until I learn the basics, and after that?
Use F10 to activate charge
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[DarkeSword]

Use F10 to activate charge
http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smilies/icon_ugly.gif
F10 quits the game. Don't be a dick. :P

Yeah, we don't mind newbies at all. Just make sure you mention that you're a newb to your team and there shouldn't be a problem.

[Zephyr]

Bah, I'm too tired to implement it tonight...maybe tomorrow night.

Also, I did not see a lot of those options on 1.fm Zephyr - that site seems to have a very ugly design though.
I didn't even bother looking on 1.fm to see how it was, I'm not really interested in that half of the music, but I figured some other people would, I'm more interested in the dj.fm half. I checked out dj.fm and that one works fine for me.

[Powerlord]

Warning: Really long post

Controls:
In addition to the normal WASD layout:
, to change class
. to change team
E calls for a Medic
R reloads
Q switches between your current and previous weapons
Z, X, and C opens voice command menus
V (hold) to voice chat
l to drop briefcase in CTF maps
g to taunt (each weapon has a different taunt, except for the Spy's Sapper... the Spy Disguise kit has one instead)
m to edit your character's weapons if you've unlocked any Medic or Pyro weapons through achievements
TAB to check scores... also lists what classes your teammates are using and whether or not they're dead. Also lists who you're dominating or who is your nemesis (i.e. is dominating you)
SPACE to jump
CTRL to crouch
Y to text chat
U to team text chat
B (Spy only) to switch to your last used disguise

Oh yeah, quick overview of the classes:
Scout
Advantages
2x Speed
2x Capture speed
Double Jump

Disadvantages
Low-clip primary weapon
Primary weapon loses power at a distance

Soldier
Advantages
Primary weapon does lots of damage
Primary weapon does splash damage
Primary weapon can be used to rocket jump to areas you (and any other class) can't otherwise reach

Disadvantages
.75x Speed
Low-clip primary weapon
Easily dodged primary weapon
Can kill self with rocket splash damage

Pyro
Advantages
Primary weapon does lots of damage
Primary weapon sets enemies on fire, causing another 50-100 damage
Resistant to fire
Can reflect rockets with air blast

Disadvantages
Primary weapon is only primary short-range
Primary weapon doesn't work underwater
Secondary (long range) weapon kinda sucks

Demoman
Advantages
Primary and secondary weapons are strong
Secondary weapon (Sticky Bomb) can have 8 on the map; they explode when you right-click. These go away when you die
Secondary weapon can let you bomb jump to areas you normally can't reach

Disadvantages
Primary and secondary weapons are slow.
Primary weapon is hard to aim
Bomb jump is not as powerful as rocket jump

Heavy
Advantages
Primary weapon does lots of damage
Has lots of hit points

Disadvantages
.75x speed
.25x speed when primary weapon is firing.
Primary weapon takes time to spin up (hold right mouse button to keep barrel spinning)

Engineer
Advantages
Can build a sentry gun, dispenser (dispenses ammo/metal and heals nearby allies), and teleport entrance/exit
Can upgrade sentry guns twice for 200 metal each time, spent in increments of 25 or less; it takes at least 8 wrench hits to upgrade a sentry gun.
Hitting engineer structures with your wrench will repair them if you have metal. This also applies to upgrading and reloading sentry guns

Disadvantages
Relatively weak offensive power.
Spies can sap your buildings. A sapped building immediately stops working and starts taking damage. Two wrench hits will destroy a sapper.

Medic
Advantages
Secondary weapon can heal other players
When secondary weapon is charged, right-click to unleash a special effect: ubercharge (the default) causes you and the person you're healing to go invincible for 10 seconds.

Disadvantages
Relatively weak offensive power.
Relatively low health.

Sniper
Advantages
Primary weapon has a zoom. While zoomed in, a power meter appears. If you shoot someone in the head while this meter is full, it's always an instant kill.
Primary weapon does a lot of damage while zoomed in, even if you haven't let the power level charge.
Can take out engineer buildings at a distance, although it may take a few shots.
Secondary weapon is a fast firing weapon, possibly the best secondary weapon in the game other than the Medic's medigun.

Disadvantages
You move slower while zoomed in. This makes you easy to kill.

Spy
Advantages
Can disguise as enemy.
Can cloak for 10 seconds or so.
While visible, can sap enemy engineer structures. These structures immediately stop working and start taking damage. You stay disguised after placing sappers.
Your tertiary weapon (Butterfly Knife) is an instant kill if done from behind or at the sides.
Can call for enemy medics.

Disadvantages
Running into enemy players while cloaked with make you visible for a second.
Getting shot while cloaked makes you visible for a second.
Running into enemies while disguised will stop movement for both of you.
If you are hit with a pyro flamethrower, the flames will show up even if you cloak.
Cannot use weapons until you completely decloak.
Using a weapon other than the Sapper will remove your disguise.

[Sensai]

So...I don't think I'm going to be able to make it to Rambo's last night (I think it was yesterday, but if it's today, I'm still SOL). Sorry mate. When are you getting back or whatever's causing you to not play?

Also: I'll be glad for the new blood. It's always fun to watch somebody grow from not-too-great at a game to wow-he-kicks-ass.

[Choccy]

I'm about to stab someone.

I've downloaded all kinds of updates, opened ports through Windows FireWall, uninstalled just about everything, and called my ISP in case they were blocking the connections, thing they aren't doing, and I still can't connect.

[Rambo]

So...I don't think I'm going to be able to make it to Rambo's last night (I think it was yesterday, but if it's today, I'm still SOL). Sorry mate. When are you getting back or whatever's causing you to not play?

Also: I'll be glad for the new blood. It's always fun to watch somebody grow from not-too-great at a game to wow-he-kicks-ass.

yeeeah my last night was last night. :| I was a sad panda that you didn't come online. I bottled vahn paktu like... 5 times and it was satisfying. lol

I'm not playing because I jokingly made my mother a deal that if she quit smoking, I'd quit TF2. To my utter disbelief she actually took me up on it. And I think it would be exceedingly selfish for me to call it off given the good it would yield. Guuuuh.

I made sure to cram as much as i could in the last 2 weeks given that... and totaled 82 hours of gameplay. :shock:
Now start my withdrawals.

[Triad Orion]

Ah, that would explain a lot. That's very upstanding of you to keep your word like that, Rambo.

Well, if for whatever reason you do manage to get back to TF2 sometime let us all know. I wouldn't mind playing with you again sometime, even if you do always kick my ass. XD

[Zephyr]

What!? We're losing Rambo! NOOOOOOO! But it is for a good cause, so good job!

[Effef]

Secondary weapon is a fast firing weapon, possibly the best secondary weapon in the game other than the Medic's medigun.

haha what, its godawful

The machine gun fires fast, but it has such a huge spread and does so little damage that its better to just use a kukri

[Triad Orion]

haha what, its godawful

The machine gun fires fast, but it has such a huge spread and does so little damage that its better to just use a kukri

Seconded. The SMG is a miserable secondary weapon and it fails at dishing out any stopping power. Yeah, it shoots fast, but when each bullet deals like 8 damage? Effef's advice is spot on. Opt for the kukri if you can or better yet? Run away. Snipers suck in any sort of direct combat and you don't have the health to risk it most of the time.

Truthfully? The Shotgun that most of the classes carry as their secondary weapon is a far more reliable close-range alternative than the SMG. It carries reasonable stopping power over short to medium range and it's the Pyro's only real method of dishing hurt from a distance. (Flare gun notwithstanding.)

[Bleck]

if you are a sniper and they are too close to snipe but too far to kukri than you should just focus on escaping

[Sensai]

Thirded about the sniper's secondary being shyte.

And good for you Rambo. Truly remarkable, and most commendable.

@ Choccy: Did you get it working? You figure out how to play with us?

And I'm back! Meaning, I'll probably play tonight!

[EdgeCrusher]

Ok seriously, cave is awesome. Keep it in the rotation.

[Tensei]

Ok seriously, cave is awesome. Keep it in the rotation.

QFT

Oh and requesting Lazytown and Steel B4 while we're at it. :]

[EdgeCrusher]

I second the lazytown and steel. Steel will never make it though cause people bitch too much.

[Xerol Oplan]

I haven't been able to play on steel with more than 2 other people. It just needs to be announced well ahead of time so people can download it.

[EdgeCrusher]

We had a pretty good sized group today playing it, besides someone that seemed to be getting crit shots every shot they were taking. But still a fun game.

[Powerlord]

Ok seriously, cave is awesome. Keep it in the rotation.

Speaking of Cave, the download link on page 1 goes to pl_cave_b6, not pl_cave_b4_2.

I assume it's a newer version of the same map.

[sephfire]

My wife just got a new PC and I'm strongly tempted to buy TF2 again.

[Bahamut]

My wife just got a new PC and I'm strongly tempted to buy TF2 again.

You know if you log onto your Steam account, you can redownload it for free.

[atmuh]

i think he means buy it for pc after buying it for 360

[Bahamut]

So...nobody else has online radio station suggestions?

[Bleck]

I would suggest one but I don't know about online radio stations.

Uh, something video gamey, maybe?

[Xerol Oplan]

vvv New sig. vvv

[Tensei]

vvv New sig. vvv

That train will never stop haunting me, I swear.

Also, Bahamut, if it hasn't been suggested already, I'd say just go with the Rainwave radio stream. Even if it's not playing ocremixes all the time, I'd say it's better than nothing, and pretty relevant to the site. :P

[Sensai]

I've never been able to listen to music and play at the same time...I dunno. It's just something I can't do anymore. /shrugs

Also: I love your new sig Xerol.

(I was getting my ass handed to me earlier tonight, so for anyone who was there...may I please have it back?)

[BardicKnowledge]

That train will never stop haunting me, I swear.

Hahaha -- that was the best round on that map I've ever had, I like it when there's small enough teams we can leave all-talk on and just BS around.

[duckyboycantfly]

if you are a sniper and they are too close to snipe but too far to kukri than you should just focus on escaping
There is no such thing as "too close to snipe," it just makes it easier to see their head.

And I'll get around to a reserved slot. Probably when I head off to college.

[atmuh]

There is no such thing as "too close to snipe," it just makes it easier to see their head.

And I'll get around to a reserved slot. Probably when I head off to college.

well on your way to ultimate success in school!

[Zephyr]

I was glad to see lazytown on the rotation yesterday, I really like that map. For radio stations I still vouch for some dj.fm stuff, We're consistently getting a bigger crowd on steel, I think we got over 14 people last time.

[Bahamut]

Oh, I didn't change the rotation at all - reserved slot holders used their vote map privileges and their choice won.

[Sporknight]

So I guess if I actually playing more often I should get a reserved slot, eh? I have a bad habit of reminding myself to log on for TF2 around 7:00 and forgetting by 9:00...

[Dhsu]

Heh, Lazytown is fun times...pretty buggy though, as the spawn areas and overtime aren't working properly.

BTW, there's no link to it in the first post, so I had to spend like 30 minutes downloading it from the server. :(

[Brushfire]

I forgot to ask this question a week ago Wes. Do we get billed every month by you, are do we have to make a new donation every month?

[Bahamut]

Basically it's an honor system.

Also, SourceMod Radio is now installed - the trigger is !radio or /radio in chat.

[Xerol Oplan]

It would be much easier to keep track of if you kept the last donation date and how much was donated in the list of reserved slot holders. Or at least tell me when I donated because I've completely forgot.

[Bahamut]

I can always check my email for the dates if someone requests it - I use gmail so it has that nice search feature.

[duckyboycantfly]

Is there some sort of app for steam that keeps the radio in TF2? Rather, I know there is one, but how do I get it?

I don't want to keep opening the radio in VLC...

[Bahamut]

Is there some sort of app for steam that keeps the radio in TF2? Rather, I know there is one, but how do I get it?

I don't want to keep opening the radio in VLC...

Not that I know of - it keeps it in TF2 only if the link to the stream is not a playlist file and it's embedded in the webpage. That's why I labeled the links I added that used a playlist file "pls file". The ones that came with the plugin initially I left there, and those use an embedded player in a webpage so those are fine.

[duckyboycantfly]

Not that I know of - it keeps it in TF2 only if the link to the stream is not a playlist file and it's embedded in the webpage. That's why I labeled the links I added that used a playlist file "pls file". The ones that came with the plugin initially I left there, and those use an embedded player in a webpage so those are fine.
I get a 404 and then VLC opens up.

Whatever, I just wanted to try it, and when I did, didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

[Zephyr]

Not that I know of - it keeps it in TF2 only if the link to the stream is not a playlist file and it's embedded in the webpage. That's why I labeled the links I added that used a playlist file "pls file". The ones that came with the plugin initially I left there, and those use an embedded player in a webpage so those are fine.
My favourite setup is the one [-Q-] clan uses, here's what it is...

you type music in the text box and this pops up IN GAME
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/radioscreen.png

It appears to be some version of the server startup screen or something (can you make html pages for the server? Because if you can this would be easy.) You pick your music, then this pops up (in this case I chose trance)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/radiotrance.png

Now the music plays and you can close the window, it streams straight through WMP, which allows you to always change volume etc. and you never need to leave the game, You can just type music again, it closes the previous music and lets you pick new stuff. If it is at all possible, this would be the most preferable method for music, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't even need a mod. It's very hassle-free and has always just worked for me. Is it possible for us to do this instead?

[Bahamut]

If someone else can program it and set up the page, then sure.

[Sensai]

We had a pair of guys who pretty much emptied the server (right before the restart) because they were blocking one of Red's spawn in 2fort and making all red players unable to open the doors.

We finally got a votekick going around, and we managed to kick one of them...who immediately joined again. They both stayed, and came back AFTER the server restarted...and left when there were only 3 people left.

.........

[Bahamut]

Ok, I'll add voteban to reserved slot holders.

Any clue what their nicks were like?

[atmuh]

one was def this idiot called atmuh

[Zephyr]

If someone else can program it and set up the page, then sure.
Well, I'm not sure how you set up the server stuff, how did you get the whole "Welcome to OCR...No sticky camping...etc." page up? Is there just a text box to write in? did you have to make an html page? I can code basic html and have embedded media players before, but I'm sure someone else would be more capable, we do have website designers around here don't we?

[Bahamut]

That particular page you're asking about is just motd.txt on the server.

[Powerlord]

Well, I'm not sure how you set up the server stuff, how did you get the whole "Welcome to OCR...No sticky camping...etc." page up? Is there just a text box to write in? did you have to make an html page? I can code basic html and have embedded media players before, but I'm sure someone else would be more capable, we do have website designers around here don't we?

That particular page you're asking about is just motd.txt on the server.

As strange as it sounds, motd.txt can be an HTML document.

[zyko]

ziggity zyko monkey up in the hizzouse

[duckyboycantfly]

We had a pair of guys who pretty much emptied the server (right before the restart) because they were blocking one of Red's spawn in 2fort and making all red players unable to open the doors.

We finally got a votekick going around, and we managed to kick one of them...who immediately joined again. They both stayed, and came back AFTER the server restarted...and left when there were only 3 people left.

.........
I was wondering why there was nobody on last night.

I think I found a better sniper than presh though. And, according to him, he was drunk too. Guy was fucking ridiculous.

[Sensai]

I really don't like Badlands all that much. :-/ I'm not sure what it is ('cause I used to at least a little) but I just can't stand it anymore...

@ Atmuh: Sorry if I offended you mate...really didn't mean to if I did.

[J-Hawk]

Ok, I'll add voteban to reserved slot holders.

Any clue what their nicks were like?

DOOR GUARD 1 & 2.

One was just talking normally (besides locking RED in) and the other one kept text-spamming "I DETECT LULZ!"

[Pyrion]

Casting my vote for giving dustbowl equal time with the other maps, instead of every other map change being fucking dustbowl.

[Bleck]

Casting my vote for giving dustbowl equal time with the other maps, instead of every other map change being fucking dustbowl.

srsly why does this keep fucking happening

[Sensai]

Casting my vote for giving dustbowl equal time with the other maps, instead of every other map change being fucking dustbowl.

Yes, yes...the plan's all coming together now!!

But seriously, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticing this. I understand people love Dustbowl (I used to love it as much if not more than a lot of people), but it's a little ridiculous.

:-D

[Tensei]

Needs more Cave_b4 instead of dustbowl (no seriously, that map is great)

[Zephyr]

http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=25

^Look what I found. That should explain how to do it right? I don't know how to use mani. It seems from that explanation however that it would just cause you to like to a radio station right after typing it, without the big list, but according to that theory, if we made one of those motd.txt documents that was just a list of links to the feeds, then it would probably work right?

[atmuh]

I really don't like Badlands all that much. :-/ I'm not sure what it is ('cause I used to at least a little) but I just can't stand it anymore...

@ Atmuh: Sorry if I offended you mate...really didn't mean to if I did.

no i just dont like you

[Dhsu]

Hey you don't have to hate him just because he dominates you all the time.

[Sensai]

Thanks Atmuh. I'm glad to know there's a special place in your heart for me.

/shrugs and sighs

[rem]

So I'm planning on buying TF2 soon but I'd like to know if there are any bots for this game. I hate practicing online.

[Powerlord]

So I'm planning on buying TF2 soon but I'd like to know if there are any bots for this game. I hate practicing online.

As far as I know, no.

However, you can always hop on an achievement server for practice... they tend to be lower-player servers for grinding achievements... mainly Pyro achievements right now.

Speaking of which, Pyro recently became my least played class after I played Demoman for a bit the other day. :O

[Dhsu]

I would just start an empty server to get the hang of the classes and some maps, then hop on the OCR server when there's like 4 or so people and mess around with them.

Also I don't mind dustbowl being in the rotation 3 times. I feel safe on that map...

[Powerlord]

I would just start an empty server to get the hang of the classes and some maps, then hop on the OCR server when there's like 4 or so people and mess around with them.

Also I don't mind dustbowl being in the rotation 3 times. I feel safe on that map...

I haven't seen the OCR server down to less than 6 people in days.

[atmuh]

rem we can play for sillys on remods server sometime its usually empty

[Tensei]

All-talk+ OCR regulars+ Well_B4+ Melee only= massive fun.

[Powerlord]

All-talk+ OCR regulars+ Well_B4+ Melee only= massive fun.

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't care for Alltalk... it makes it so you can't discuss strategy via voice.

Not that we do all that often, but sometimes we do.

Also... Well_B4? I don't remember that one. Is it based on ctf_well or cp_well?

[atmuh]

it was cp_well
and we didnt give half a crap about strategy it was a roflfest and an excellent one at that

[Tensei]

it makes it so you can't discuss strategy via voice.


Yes, we can't have that when it's melee only. It's absolutely necessary that the enemy team won't hear we're planning to punch their lights out.

[rem]

rem we can play for sillys on remods server sometime its usually empty

Really? I thought demitri's was pretty full most of the time. ok then

[atmuh]

Really? I thought demitri's was pretty full most of the time. ok then

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/209.246.170.75:27015/
check out the historical data teehee

i played on there when it was empty for a couple days when i first got it just to see how every class works

[Effef]

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/209.246.170.75:27015/
check out the historical data teehee

i played on there when it was empty for a couple days when i first got it just to see how every class works

Yeah nobody is ever in there unless we need to maptest or smth

He is working on making it a pub though, hopefully that will bring in more activity

[atmuh]

Yeah nobody is ever in there unless we need to maptest or smth

He is working on making it a pub though, hopefully that will bring in more activity

that would be rockin
if its a money thing tell him to contact me

[Secret Agent Man]

Man, jumping around as a scout trying to bat people at 999 ping with Yakity Sax playing in the background is priceless.

[Bahamut]

So tomorrow I will look into some things. Some people like zircon complained of lag, although I never got any of it - everything ran as smooth as butter on this comp, although TF2 has a habit of crashing due to me being on Vista 64-bit. Also there was a bit of wtf when pl_dustbowl_b4 won the map vote, but it got switched to cp_well...I think I know what happened, so I will look into that tomorrow too.

I will add Rainwave to the radio list tomorrow, as tonight I'm honestly pretty tired from my traveling back to Illini territory.

Does anyone have map rotation suggestions or a custom map desired to play?

[Powerlord]

So tomorrow I will look into some things. Some people like zircon complained of lag, although I never got any of it - everything ran as smooth as butter on this comp, although TF2 has a habit of crashing due to me being on Vista 64-bit. Also there was a bit of wtf when pl_dustbowl_b4 won the map vote, but it got switched to cp_well...I think I know what happened, so I will look into that tomorrow too.

I will add Rainwave to the radio list tomorrow, as tonight I'm honestly pretty tired from my traveling back to Illini territory.

Does anyone have map rotation suggestions or a custom map desired to play?

To be honest, I'm surprised you still have both ManiAdmin and SourceMod running.

Is there anything in ManiAdmin that you still need?

[Bahamut]

To be honest, I'm surprised you still have both ManiAdmin and SourceMod running.

Is there anything in ManiAdmin that you still need?

Good question - the server came with both preinstalled I think, but I could be wrong.

[Powerlord]

Good question - the server came with both preinstalled I think, but I could be wrong.

The only thing I can think of that might still use it is the server's ads, and Sourcemod has an Advertisements plugin (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=67885).
Well, you could try disabling it and see if everything still works. I don't know if you'd need to do anything special other than commenting it out in /addons/metamod/metaplugins.ini (by putting a ; at the beginning of the mani line).

Assuming that Mani is loaded as a Metamod: Source plugin, that is.

[Zephyr]

http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=25

^Look what I found. That should explain how to do it right? I don't know how to use mani. It seems from that explanation however that it would just cause you to like to a radio station right after typing it, without the big list, but according to that theory, if we made one of those motd.txt documents that was just a list of links to the feeds, then it would probably work right?
Did you take a look at this Bahamut /\ (yes that's right I'm quoting myself!) I think that's how they managed to embed the radio stream, although, if someone knows how to convert html to motd.txt then I can just whip up an html doc for it if you want.

[Powerlord]

if someone knows how to convert html to motd.txt then I can just whip up an html doc for it if you want.

It's really easy: Just put HTML into motd.txt... no conversion required.

P.S. Whoops, I was wrong earlier. The server browser is showing no one on the OCR TF2 server right now.

However, since the Steam Friends list is down right now, I'm not betting that the server browser is working right now either.

[Pyrion]

So I'm planning on buying TF2 soon but I'd like to know if there are any bots for this game. I hate practicing online.

Just go to a noob server, or any 24/7 2fort instant respawn server. 98% of the people on those servers are ultra-horrible at the game. ;)

[Zephyr]

I could make the html page if necessary, but I just read that link again and apparently, all you need to do is put a direct link to the page where the stream is into your favourites list, then the players type favourites, it pops up on the side and they choose what they want. It's explained quite clearly here: http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=25

I tlooks quite easy to do, but I'm not sure if it will work. No harm in trying it, if not that then I'll make the html page.

[SlightlyOddGuy]

Fun games tonight as always, OCR. Even if Bahamut does like making me eat crit rockets. ;(

[Bahamut]

That's my specialty :smile: . I wasn't doing as well as last night, but good enough. Buying stuff to fill my apartment again is really taking its toll on me physically & mentally :sad: .

[duckyboycantfly]

that would be rockin
if its a money thing tell him to contact me
i require additional funds
someone donate, i can't foot this month's bill yet
He can barely afford this months bill, still on the private. If you want to donate atmuh, here you go (http://www.gameservers.com/clanpay/?clanid=3f95015a079c4d7d56054cd34942e8af)

And I think I'm not going to be on TF2 for a while. As was stated last night, I'm no longer able to log into my main computer, and am using a significantly lesser laptop now. The horrible lag + horrible framerate combined kills any chance of me dreaming of a headshot, let alone hitting anything. Then again, I guess I could always just play pyro now.

*zing*
(but once I'm back to playing, I think I'll finally get that reserved slot, but this probably won't be till roughly August 21st)

[Sensai]

Last night when I played (sadly, not on OCR), I was kicking some serious ass as spy. Figured I'd let you guys know so that when you get stabbed in the back, you'll know from whom the love is coming from.

Also, I don't think I'll be on TF2 for a bit for a few reasons. Firstly, I'm moving and won't have internet for a bit (probably next Friday or so) and even when I get it, I'm going to be unpacking/etc.

Secondly, I think I'm getting re-addicted to DnD. Anyone else here play?

[Powerlord]

Last night when I played (sadly, not on OCR), I was kicking some serious ass as spy.

Sometime I rock as a spy, sometimes I suck as a spy... it's all in the luck for me (and the level; I suck as Spy on hydro).

[DarkeSword]

Speaking of Spies, here's a little story.

Last night we were playing Dustbowl, and in the third round we (BLU) took the first point, so everyone fell back to the second point. You guys probably know that RED engies usually hide a teleporter in that little room that leads to their spawn so that they can still get to the first point after the spawn door locks. Usually a BLU demo will go up there and get rid of that crap, but I guess none of our demos decided to check.

So everyone (RED and BLU) was pretty much concentrating on that second point, and I got killed and respawned back at the BLU spawn. Everyone knows I almost always play Pyro, and whenever the coast is clear I like to fire off my flare gun for fun/target practice. We've got no teleporter, so I'm making my way to the second point and I decided--on a whim--to shoot a flare into that room that leads to the RED spawn.

All of the sudden, someone lights up. I hit a cloaked RED spy. I had no idea he was there. I quickly backburnered him as he ran away and then starting laughing my ass off.

[Imagist]

hey guys this game is a lot of fun

even if all I know how to do so far is "charge up medic then get invincible"

[DarkeSword]

hey guys this game is a lot of fun

even if all I know how to do so far is "charge up medic then get invincible"

And get torched by Pyros.:tomatoface:

[Sensai]

And get torched by Pyros.:tomatoface:

You guys are making my lack of TF2 even more painful. :puppyeyes:

[Bleck]

don't worry sensai right now it's basically lopsided teams constantly

[Imagist]

haha it wasn't that bad last night but yeah that seems to be the case right now

[Zephyr]

I was having a great time as a spy on granary yesterday, the server was dead, so me and brushfire go it going, then it picked up quick and I decided to work on spy, I got 7 backstabs in a life all in a row... :razz: (tied garian's record too...)

[Sporknight]

So I dont know how many of you are Kotakuites (if that's even the right term), but you all should get a kick out of this:

http://kotaku.com/5035253/meet-the-cow
(PS I am a nub at embedding)
Also, once my USB headset shows up I'll get a reserved spot and become much more regular. Should turn up around next Wednesday or so I hope.

[Sensai]

Thanks for the games tonight...my pyro is starting to adapt to the non-backburner...it takes time.

And now I REALLY will be without internet for a bit. It cuts off tomorrow and I won't regain it until Thursday or Friday at absolute earliest.

So, jee jees until then.

[Imagist]

what the heck this is a terrible game why am I playing it

(it has my soooouuuuulllllll, I am in a contract with the devil)

[zyko]

i got a new mouse and headset
so HAHAHAHAH

[Zephyr]

Haha, greatest moment on dustbowl tonight, I can't remember names, but this is pretty much how it went down. "Okay here's what we're gonna do, I'll kritzkrieg the heavy, then someone ubers him, and another medic uber me, then we'll all be invincible with all crits on the heavy." (simple enough concept) "3...2...1...Round Start" "Okay, everyone ready!? UBERCH- *Heavy dies* -ARGE!" 3 medics all ubering eachother run out and can't do a thing, it was great..

You had to be there...

[Bleck]

um that is not how it ended

they all had the ubers and then the heavy was headshotted

then I ran forward as a pyro and said 'meeee' and then the uber circle was complete and we killed like the entire team

[Dhsu]

Well all I remember is I switched to the first attack guy I saw which I guess was you, but I think the other medics just ran around and we all ended up dying pretty quick.

This map looks pretty amazing, BTW:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/61940

[DarkeSword]

Granary was awesome last night. :)

[Tensei]

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/61940

This looks awesome, I'm all for more TC maps, it's such an underappreciated gametype.

[Powerlord]

This map looks pretty amazing, BTW:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/61940

...a CTF TC map? wtf!

[Zephyr]

Too bad you can't have the ctf hud, but that's valve's problem, I'm having the same problem on a map I'm currently attempting. It's ctf, but the capture zone is in the middle attached to a control point, the flag is in the enemies base, but once you have it you can't score unless you control the single control point in the middle. I'm hoping people who hate ctf can just go for the cp and still enjoy it. It's going well in the building stage so far though.

We should try out meridian on the server sometime.

[Bahamut]

[14:15] <+Tensei-San> http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/

If this is true (that's the official site), it looks like cp_steel is going to become a standard map!

[Powerlord]

[14:15] <+Tensei-San> http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/

If this is true (that's the official site), it looks like cp_steel is going to become a standard map!

Ooh, more updates later this week, too...

[Tensei]

It's like Super Smash Brawl all over again. :]

[zircon]

http://www.zirconstudios.com/pics/tomheavy.PNG

[Bleck]

http://www.zirconstudios.com/pics/tomheavy.PNG

t'all you fine dandies, so proud so cocksure

PRANCIN ABOUT WITH YOUR HEADS FULL OF EYEBALLS

[atmuh]

It's like Super Smash Brawl all over again. :]

dontchoo talk about smash bros

[Tensei]

dontchoo talk about smash bros

whatcha gonna do about it

cry at me?


and this:
http://www.zirconstudios.com/pics/tomheavy.PNG

is awesome, but needs less Heavy and more Demo :]

[EdgeCrusher]

Oh yeah, suck on that steel haters!

[Dhsu]

is awesome, but needs less Heavy and more Demo :]
Needs more Leonidas.

[IckesTheSane]

[14:15] <+Tensei-San> http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/

If this is true (that's the official site), it looks like cp_steel is going to become a standard map!

Awesome. I liked Steel when we played it... any chance we can add it into the rotation once everyone has it?

Also, time to brush up on my sniper skillz for the incoming flood of heavies :-D

(yes, one of the unlockables will probably be an anti-sniper thing for them.... shh, don't ruin my fantasy)

[Bahamut]

Yeah, Steel will definitely be joining the rotation once it's out.

[Bleck]

why not right now =D

also does anyone else hate Turbine

[danny B]

danny B - dannyBstyle

[Bahamut]

So, I just added Orgmas.rainwave.cc to the radio station list in SourceMod Radio.

The map rotation is currently:

cp_dustbowl
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
ctf_2fort
tc_hydro
cp_dustbowl
ctf_turbine
cp_gravelpit
cp_well

Does anyone want some particular adjustments to it? (i.e. custom maps and such)

[Bleck]

I suggest steel, since it'll be official soon anyways

[Xerol Oplan]

I suggest steel, since it'll be official soon anyways

I say hold off on it for exactly the same reason. Also the 'official' version is probably going to be different so making everyone download it now isn't going to make updating any faster.

[DarkeSword]

I say hold off on it for exactly the same reason. Also the 'official' version is probably going to be different so making everyone download it now isn't going to make updating any faster.
Seconded!!

[Bleck]

why not put it in now so that people aren't just shoved into it and don't have a clue what is going on when the official one comes out

[atmuh]

bleck youre wrong this time its ok

[Zephyr]

I'm sure most of them have probably seen it once or twice, or read that it's coming on the update site, I'd also recommend just waiting till it's official, people will pick it up eventually. I'm glad that Valve is in the practice of adopting community maps, in other games they would just be left alone and as a result be a lot less played even though they are great maps.

[Bahamut]

Yeah, I want to hold off on cp_steel for the official update because as it is, it's over 40 MB and people are going to be downloading it with the heavy update anyway.

[Zephyr]

Oh, and I'd recommend on skipping out on tc_meridian_b1 as well, I downloaded it and tested it out and it's severely broken. The map itself is beautiful with a lot of nice textures and creative map ideas, but in one of the rounds 1 of the flags was just plain missing, making it impossible for that team to move on (although, in the event of time running out, it gives the win to the team with less territory, which is nice). The map is very confusing, there are many exit signs that lead straight into dead-ends, many doors that don't open, and signs that lead no-where in particular. In one case, I went into a resupply area and went through a trap-door there, which dropped me off in a corridor meant for another round, I was locked in and had to suicide (and yes I looked for a while). In the map the flag scoring areas are marked with an inactive control point, but it was a working control point in one round and instead of capturing the flag, you could simply win by capturing they're cp at the flag. There are a few more design issues, a bridge between 2 areas overlooks a part of the map meant for a different round of the map, jumping off of the bridge to an area that looks as though it's a normal part of the map will kill you, even with a soft landing.

It was kind of funny that he missed all of these things when making the map, but I'm sure they'll be fixed soon, I hope so because it's an interesting map with a good concept, just very confusing and broken. If you don't believe me try it yourself.

[Tensei]

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm

NEW WEAPON FOR HEAVY+ ACHIEVEMENTS REVEALED

[atmuh]

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm

NEW WEAPON FOR HEAVY+ ACHIEVEMENTS REVEALED

post some info im at work and its blocked

[Tensei]

The Killer Gloves of Boxing

The unlockable for the Heaviest pugilists out there is the K.G.B. Any time a Heavy kills an enemy with the K.G.B he receives five seconds of guaranteed critical hits. This crit-boost can be used to punch and kill further enemies, extending the boost time. Alternatively, the Heavy can switch to another weapon and use the boost to take out an enemy at range. The Heavy's slow movement speed, and the K.G.B's slower swing speed, make it a risky prospect.

also lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84&feature=related

[Imagist]

That video is absolutely great.

[Bleck]

Yeah, I want to hold off on cp_steel for the official update because as it is, it's over 40 MB and people are going to be downloading it with the heavy update anyway.

gasp 40mb HOW WILL MY DIALUP SURVIVE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84&feature=related

that video is old as fuck and still just as awesome

[Bahamut]

gasp 40mb HOW WILL MY DIALUP SURVIVE

The thing is, when there's a map switch and you have over 10 people downloading it at once, it's a server killer. There's only 6 days to go or so anyway, so it's not that big of a deal waiting for it to become official.

[Powerlord]

The thing is, when there's a map switch and you have over 10 people downloading it at once, it's a server killer.

There's a fix for that: Redirect the players to another (http) server to download files.

[Pyrion]

So, any assholes I've banned want to bitch about it? My ego could always use a boost. ;)

(Banned two people today, one for being an abusive douchebag and the other for sticky spawncamping, intentionally, not incidentally. Both proceeded to justify the bans by connect-flooding the server afterwards (spamming console with retry attempts.))

Also 40MB uncompressed, but Valve updates GCFs (game cache files) which store everything compressed, so it should be a lot less. Binary space partitioned maps compress very well.

[Bleck]

The thing is, when there's a map switch and you have over 10 people downloading it at once, it's a server killer.

oh yeah I've seen that happen

you've got a point there

[Pyrion]

oh yeah I've seen that happen

I've seen maps download compressed as .bz2 files, they don't take so long.

[Dhsu]

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm

NEW WEAPON FOR HEAVY+ ACHIEVEMENTS REVEALED
Hahaha, loving the Soviet theme. And the "Meet the Scout" reference. :)

Bleck, stop having the same avatar as Danny B, he was first.

[Bleck]

alright dhsu

[Bahamut]

Bomb cart will not push self!

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm

[Powerlord]

Bomb cart will not push self!

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm

Given that at least two of the Heavy's achievements involve the cart, I'm not surprised to see another Payload map.

[DarkeSword]

Given that at least two of the Heavy's achievements involve the cart, I'm not surprised to see another Payload map.
Given that they said they were introducing another Payload map, I'm not surprised either.

:tomatoface:

[Powerlord]

Given that they said they were introducing another Payload map, I'm not surprised either.

:tomatoface:

Mmm, I must have missed that announcement... or skimmed over it. I do that sometimes.

[Bahamut]

Mmm, I must have missed that announcement... or skimmed over it. I do that sometimes.

http://www.teamfortress.com - they announced that in their blog.

[EdgeCrusher]

Im glad theres a map with more open areas than goldrush. Its too easy to ambush people on it.

[zircon]

Yeah, as fun as Goldrush is, the chokepoints heavily weight it towards Red.

[Powerlord]

Yeah, as fun as Goldrush is, the chokepoints heavily weight it towards Red.

Yeah... Valve's stats (http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php) even show that Red wins Gold Rush approx 85% of the time

[Bleck]

gold rush and gravel pit are the most heavily unbalanced maps imo

most of the nonsymmetrical maps are unbalanced but not to any noticeable degree

[Dhsu]

Yeah... Valve's stats (http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php) even show that Red wins Gold Rush approx 85% of the time
Wow, I'm surprised to see Red with the advantage on Dustbowl. They win maybe a third of the time when I play.

[EdgeCrusher]

24/7 dustbowl yaaaaaaaay.

[Bleck]

I bet half the players of TF2 on the internet haven't even played any map but Dustbowl

[EdgeCrusher]

Dustbowl, Gravelpit, and Goldrush. Id rather be a medic on a 24/7 2fort server than play those maps again.

[Bahamut]

Every few days I've been requesting suggestions for a map rotation, and nobody really gave any other than claiming that the current rotation is good enough. I'm going to reiterate it right now:

cp_dustbowl
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
ctf_2fort
tc_hydro
cp_dustbowl
ctf_turbine
cp_gravelpit
cp_well

[Bleck]

I said put in steel but that was a no

[Imagist]

gold rush is a pretty terrible map

[Dhsu]

Well, with rtv it doesn't seem like rotation is as important as it was. I like it though, good variety and distribution of the different game types. Maybe have Gravel Pit a little earlier to not have the offense/defense maps so close to each other. I also might be up for replacing the second dustbowl with pl_dustbowl or pl_cave_b6 just to have another pl in there.

[Zephyr]

It'll all change once we get the update anyways, then we'll be able to officially put steel in and badwater as well.

[Powerlord]

The new heavy minigun looks interesting... does 25% less damage, but slows whomever it hits.

Which makes the minigun much more useful against ranged Pyros in addition to the classes Valve listed, I'd think.

[Bleck]

I dunno about the rest of you but sasha does a fine job of killing scouts and medics for me

[Xerol Oplan]

Acheivement details got posted:

Spyalectical Materialism: Kill or assist in killing 10 cloaked spies.

Permanent Revolution: Kill 5 enemies without spinning down your gun

Heavy Industry: Fire $200,000 worth of minigun rounds in a single life.

Communist Mani-Fisto: Kill an enemy with a critical punch.

Redistribution of Health: Heal 1000 damage with med-kits in a single life.

Rationing: Kill an enemy with your shotgun while you're out of minigun ammo.

Vanguard Party: Be the first on your team to start capturing a control point in a round.

Pushkin the Kart: Get 50 caps on payload maps.

Marxman: Kill 10 enemies in mid-air with the minigun.

Gorky Parked: Kill 25 enemies while you're standing on a control point you own.

Purge: Kill 15 enemies capturing a control point you own.

Lenin A Hand: Help 5 teammates get revenge on their nemeses.

Five Second Plan: Kill an enemy in the first 5 seconds after you exit a teleporter.

Photostroika: Provide an enemy with a freezecam shot of you taunting while invulnerable.

Konspicuous Konsumption: Eat 100 sandviches.

Don't Touch Sandvich: Kill 50 scouts using Natascha.

Borscht Belt: Kill 10 heavies with The K.G.B.

Iron Kurtain: Take 1000 points of damage in a single life.

Party Loyalty: Kill 50 enemies within 3 seconds of them attacking your Medic.

Division of Labor: Kill 20 enemies with a Medic assisting you, where neither of you die.

Red Oktoberfest: Earn a domination for a Medic who's healing you.

Show Trial: Kill an enemy with a taunt.

Crime and Punishment: Kill 10 enemies carrying your intelligence."

Class Struggle: Work with a friendly Medic to kill an enemy Heavy & Medic pair.

Soviet Block : While invulnerable and on defense, block an invulnerable enemy Heavy's movement.

Stalin the Kart: Block the enemy from moving the payload cart 25 times.

Supreme Soviet: Get ubered 50 times.

Factory Worker: Kill 20 enemies while being recharged by a dispenser.

Soviet Union: Get 25 enemy kills where you either assist or are assisted by another Heavy.

Own the Means of Production: Remove 20 stickybombs by killing the Demomen who produced them

Krazy Ivan: Kill 100 enemies while both you and your victim are underwater.

Rasputin: In a single life, get shot, burned, bludgeoned, and receive explosive damage.

Icing on the Cake: Get 20 kills on players that you're dominating.

Crock Block: Survive a direct hit from a critical rocket.

Kollectivization: Get 1000 assists.

[Sporknight]

Acheivement details got posted:

I kinda like 'em, I think. All of them seem to be focused on doing what Heavies do best - eating damage, helping medics, killing things. It doesn't seem like you'd have to go as out of your way to get some achievements as with the Medic and Pyro ones.

[DarkeSword]

I kinda like 'em, I think. All of them seem to be focused on doing what Heavies do best - eating damage, helping medics, killing things. It doesn't seem like you'd have to go as out of your way to get some achievements as with the Medic and Pyro ones.
Pyro ones you didn't have to go out of your way to do either. I got pretty much all of them during the course of normal gameplay, except maybe the axe ones which I got during some melee only sessions when there were like 5 people on the server.

[Powerlord]

I'm also interested in what the new game mode is and what the 5 arenas for it look like.

Maybe we'll see on Monday.

[Filodemo]

Konspicuous Konsumption: Eat 100 sandviches.

Cool, Heavy solo HP regeneration.

[Bleck]

I

HATE

TURBINE lol

[Effef]

I

HATE

TURBINE lol

finally someone agrees with me

i didn't like it when it was a custom map and i don't like it now

[Tensei]

Turbine is often ruined by turtling engineers, but overall I think it's still a fun map, especially with the huge slaughterfests that happen in the big central room.

[Sensai]

I love Turbine. :-D Also, I'm REALLY looking forward to being able to play more Steel, as I really love that map. I think I've played it all of 3 times, but every time I've played, I've absolutely loved it. With this new update...well, it won't be a No Man's Land anymore!

(I'm back, BTW. Hope to start playing in the next few days; gotta unpack some boxes.)

[Bahamut]

So, I probably won't be on until Monday to do something in game if anything is needed with the server, as I broke a fuse last night and lost power for half of my apartment.

[Xerol Oplan]

Turbine is often ruined by turtling engineers, but overall I think it's still a fun map, especially with the huge slaughterfests that happen in the big central room.

Six scouts rushing at the beginning pretty much ensured our engineers couldn't get set up.

[EdgeCrusher]

Just to show how many engineers there are:

http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/public_graphs/totaltimeplayedbyclass.png

[zyko]

Six scouts rushing at the beginning pretty much ensured our engineers couldn't get set up.

that's cuz you didn't have zyko the pyro there to incinerate all those spies :)

[Sensai]

Wow. That's quite a bit of engies...it also makes me sad to see my favorite class, Pyro, so frickin' high up the list...

Prediction: Scout will be the next class to get weapons/achievements/etc.

[Effef]

Just to show how many engineers there are:

http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/public_graphs/totaltimeplayedbyclass.png

This does not necessarily show that there are more engineers than any other class. You have to take into consideration the fact than engineers often stay alive for a loooong time, such as when they are turtling behind a sentry.

[Bahamut]

This does not necessarily show that there are more engineers than any other class. You have to take into consideration the fact than engineers often stay alive for a loooong time, such as when they are turtling behind a sentry.

Yeah - if anything I think soldier & pyro are the most played classes, with demo being third.

[Bleck]

Prediction: Scout will be the next class to get weapons/achievements/etc.

either this or sniper

[Powerlord]

This does not necessarily show that there are more engineers than any other class. You have to take into consideration the fact than engineers often stay alive for a loooong time, such as when they are turtling behind a sentry.

If this was time played per life, your argument would make sense.

However, this is Total Time Played per Class for the last week (expressed as a percent) across all official Valve maps.

[DarkeSword]

I had a dream about TF2 last night. The new gametype was called "Restaurant," and it was basically the two teams running around trying to cap as much food as possible.

The Heavy had a wheelbarrow and the Soldier had a shield made of scrap-metal.

I need to go to bed earlier. :\

[Bleck]

I will shit my pants laughing if the new game mode is anything like that

[The Mutericator]

This does not necessarily show that there are more engineers than any other class. You have to take into consideration the fact than engineers often stay alive for a loooong time, such as when they are turtling behind a sentry.
Not only that, they have more reason to stay Engineer than other classes have reason to stay what they are. If you switch from Engineer, your stuff gets destroyed, so there's more reason to stay Engy.


I had a dream about TF2 last night. The new gametype was called "Restaurant," and it was basically the two teams running around trying to cap as much food as possible.

The Heavy had a wheelbarrow and the Soldier had a shield made of scrap-metal.

I need to go to bed earlier. :\
Someone needs to make this happen, STAT.

either this or sniper
I would honestly be happier if Sniper was removed entirely.

[Bleck]

I would honestly be happier if Sniper was removed entirely.

are you one of those people who gets real mad when they get sniped

[Tensei]

Bahamut, is there any chance you could add this map (http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/47270) to the server, if only temporarily? Me and a few other people would love to test it out since it looks like it can be amazing (if a bit gimmicky) fun but no other server runs it. It doesn't even have to be in the rotation, it's just for testing purposes when there's barely any people on the server (and we usually mess around during those hours anyway)

[Bleck]

I am one of the people tensei has mentioned!

[Zephyr]

I'd be up for it too, I love fooling around when it's just a few OCR chaps on the server at odd hours, all talk and low grav FTW!

[Effef]

Wacky Races is just like Mario Kart in the fact that it gets really old in like 5 minutes. Put it on RTV if you want it.

[EdgeCrusher]

The stats are saying that total time per player averaged up in a percentage that the engineer is used a lot. But yes, as an engineer you spend more time as it cause you have to, yes.

[Zephyr]

They're taking a while to update it today... hopefully it's the new game mode and arenas (by the use of the word "arenas" perhaps a suggestion of a deathmatch style mode?).

[Powerlord]

The stats are saying that total time per player averaged up in a percentage that the engineer is used a lot. But yes, as an engineer you spend more time as it cause you have to, yes.

What the stats mean is that, on the official Valve maps, averaged across all players, Engineers were being played 16.1% of the time in the past week.

They're taking a while to update it today... hopefully it's the new game mode and arenas (by the use of the word "arenas" perhaps a suggestion of a deathmatch style mode?).

The wording arena could also mean a multi-part map, like how Dustbowl, Gold Rush, and others are done.

[EdgeCrusher]

What the stats mean is that, on the official Valve maps, averaged across all players, Engineers were being played 16.1% of the time in the past week.

Yeah, that's what I said.

[IckesTheSane]

They're taking a while to update it today...

Just updated:

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm

[DarkeSword]

Aaah damn. It's just Sudden Death mode turned into a gametype. Crap. :(

[Bleck]

which means the HEAVY MIGHT ACTUALLY GET A SANDVICH