OCR TF2: New Server forthcoming - new server IPs and other stuff

[Meeting_Gman]

That's horrible news Bonzai. I hope your computer problem is one that can be remedied quickly, easily and cheaply.

It seems the fervor has died down a bit. Hopefully OCR will be filled with players soon!

[Garian]

powerlord, there is already a remake of rock 2 called "aesop rock," but it's kinda buggy (sometimes the gas animation gets stuck on on players and they have to run around with it in their screen).

also i don't know about other guys but i had the same problem with trying to buy l4d, but i had the same problem a couple weeks before that when trying to gift TF2 to my brother... i just kept trying until it went through (no bogus charges appeared on my card or anything... although i don't really suggest doing that unless you're stubborn). someone told me that there is some file you can delete that will fix the problem but i forget because i don't have irc logging turned on.

also it's saturday, so i'll probably play! (but good god versus mode in l4d is so awesome... i've finally figured out how to wall jump as hunter :D )

[Bahamut]

So the password for today is going to be "critrocket"

[Triad Orion]

...Wait what? *Blasted*

I see what he did there.

[Powerlord]

Side note: Orange Box is now $30 for the PC version... Valve is selling the console versions for $20 because they suck.

[Rambo]

I've successfully broken my computer again, so I won't be playing TF2 for a while


Hahahahahaha

[WindStrike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9970dxQ2g
Epic win.

[Meeting_Gman]

Holy Shalashaska of Zanzibar, that was beautiful!

[Bleck]

I almost cried it was so epic

[Zephyr]

lol, awesome, hope to see you all playing tonight!

[Brushfire]

I won't be on for a while as my headset broke due to my wife stepping on it. I will return shortly.

I am well aware that I can use my computer speakers.

But my wife doesn't know that.

NEW HEADSET WOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Bleck]

HIGH FIVE BROTHA
yes

[Vivi22]

I won't be on for a while as my headset broke due to my wife stepping on it. I will return shortly.

I am well aware that I can use my computer speakers.

But my wife doesn't know that.

NEW HEADSET WOOOOOOOOO!!!

You can't use your speakers to comment on arena games, therefore, you can't use your speakers.

[Brushfire]

/SLAPPINGDAHI5TOBLECK!!!

Yeah. Tis a shame. My wife said she would throw it in with my copious amounts of games and wireless Rock Band guitars for christmas, so I am happy at the moment.

One thing I do need, I am building a new computer and I need someone to pickout a case for me. Preferably one with good air cooling. (Can't trust that liquid cooling to the military movers).

It will be called the Hyaku-Shiki, and will replace my current rig, the Gelgoog.

[Zephyr]

Talk to the prophet of mephisto, he has a business building computers, he'll get you a good deal.

[SirChadlyOC]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v721/182/14/53400931/n53400931_31085787_7338.jpg

My cat likes to help me play TF2 these days. Notice the keyboard on my lap so he doesn't walk all over it.

[Zephyr]

My new map is ready for a field test, I designed it to be a lot less complicated than my last one, it's an alpine style 2 round cp map. The first round has 1 cp and the teams fight to control the cp until time runs out. As each team caps the cp the timer is reset at a slightly lower amount until one team wins by defending until time is up.

In the second round it's a standard attack/defend cp map.

I honestly don't know how this will be to play, but I'd really like to give it a go. If anyone plays it and has suggestions let me know!

Here's some screens,
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/cp_stronghold_b1/cp_stronghold_b1_optimize0000.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/cp_stronghold_b1/cp_stronghold_b1_optimize0001.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/cp_stronghold_b1/cp_stronghold_b1_optimize0002.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/cp_stronghold_b1/cp_stronghold_b1_optimize0004.jpg


Download link:
http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=822

[Powerlord]

My new map is ready for a field test, I designed it to be a lot less complicated than my last one, it's an alpine style 2 round cp map. The first round has 1 cp and the teams fight to control the cp until time runs out. As each team caps the cp the timer is reset at a slightly lower amount until one team wins by defending until time is up.

In the second round it's a standard attack/defend cp map.

I honestly don't know how this will be to play, but I'd really like to give it a go. If anyone plays it and has suggestions let me know!

Added to server.

[Brushfire]

My new map is ready for a field test, I designed it to be a lot less complicated than my last one, it's an alpine style 2 round cp map. The first round has 1 cp and the teams fight to control the cp until time runs out. As each team caps the cp the timer is reset at a slightly lower amount until one team wins by defending until time is up.

Download link:
http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=822

I love the design. Also the whole "duke it out till time runs out" is a cool concept. Good show Zeph!!

[Meeting_Gman]

Nice that you've included the frog into the map as well! XD

[Brushfire]

Anyone gonna play tonight? If not Imma go play Gears of War 2 and sulk.

[Zephyr]

Nice that you've included the frog into the map as well! XD
As a matter of fact, there's 2 frogs, AND a cow! It's in Atmuh's server's rotation now, it has a few issues, but that's the way it goes. If you get a chance to play on it let me know if you find any problems, Thanks.

[Dhsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9970dxQ2g
Epic win.
We definitely need to try rocket tennis sometime. That looks like it would be incredibly fun, at least for 15 minutes.

[Meeting_Gman]

As a matter of fact, there's 2 frogs, AND a cow! It's in Atmuh's server's rotation now, it has a few issues, but that's the way it goes. If you get a chance to play on it let me know if you find any problems, Thanks.

It's quite a nice map Zephyr! Has nice little touches that give it personality and the spawn side-by-side with transparent walls is cool. The only problem I had was in the middle of the map it would give a drop in frame rate, but it's not a big deal.

Nice work!

[Reset.]

One of my main concerns about Zephyr's map is the side-by-side spawns. It is too easy to camp the spawns.
Other than that, great map. I just need to see how it is with a full server, or at least more than 3v3.

[Bahamut]

One of my main concerns about Zephyr's map is the side-by-side spawns. It is too easy to camp the spawns.
Other than that, great map. I just need to see how it is with a full server, or at least more than 3v3.

That was my concern when I first saw the map. Perhaps an opaque wall needs to be used between the two?

[Scufo]

I'm not sure if this was the intent or whatever, but the map's pretty wide open. As it stands, a good sniper can pretty much dominate, while pyros and heavies are mostly useless. Every game I've played it's been a contest of snipers, soldiers, and scouts, with the occasional spy thrown in to mix things up.

Although given, the biggest games I've played there have been 3 vs 3's, so maybe things would liven up a bit with more people.

[Meeting_Gman]

I'm not sure if this was the intent or whatever, but the map's pretty wide open. As it stands, a good sniper can pretty much dominate, while pyros and heavies are mostly useless. Every game I've played it's been a contest of snipers, soldiers, and scouts, with the occasional spy thrown in to mix things up.

Although given, the biggest games I've played there have been 3 vs 3's, so maybe things would liven up a bit with more people.

It is a good map for Snipers, Soldiers and Spies.

[WindStrike]

I just came up with an awesome idea. However, it involves friendly fire.

A demoman fires sticky bombs onto a scout, and the scout runs into a group of enemies, and the mines are detonated. Better yet, blast a demoman over with more stickies or something.

I dub the idea as a Scout Bomb.

... also, I intend to be on tomorrow (plus it's my birthday then).

[Bahamut]

Tomorrow the PW will be "bacon"

[Zephyr]

Bacon!!! OM NOM NOM NOM!

[Sensai]

That'd be awesome, Wind Strike, if sticky bombs stuck on people. And happy birthday!

I probably won't be on tomorrow, and if I am it won't be until late.

[Brushfire]

Bacon be the password eh? I am going to try to play if I am able to get a split shift with my coworker.

[Meeting_Gman]

I just came up with an awesome idea. However, it involves friendly fire.

A demoman fires sticky bombs onto a scout, and the scout runs into a group of enemies, and the mines are detonated. Better yet, blast a demoman over with more stickies or something.

I dub the idea as a Scout Bomb.

... also, I intend to be on tomorrow (plus it's my birthday then).

Party hats time! Happy Birthday!

[Brushfire]

Happy Birthday Windstrike. Sadly due to my current bosses inability to be cool, I won't able to celebrate your big day by burning, mini-gunning, back-stabbing, or healing you in TF2. Unless there are folks on around 1700 here. Which usually there aren't.

Anyway, best regards bro.

[WindStrike]

Well thanks to all of ye who wished me happiness (which it has been so far).
Anyhow, streetninja and I are duking it out. Anyone reading this... password is bacon... join in so we can kill you too.

[Zephyr]

I'll be right there! Join up everyone!

[DJMetal]

Man, you guys rule. I dig the OCR only day thing.

[Powerlord]

Since we don't see a lot of normal games on the server, I've changed the configuration to default Alltalk to on.

Also, it doesn't take much to get people playing on normal evenings... I was actually on to teach two of my friends who just got the game (Kurtis (http://ocremix.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=22036) and testdummy88 (http://ocremix.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=22040)) on Friday, and we eventually got up to 16 players.

The problem with having a password locked game is that you limit your potential audience... we had all of 10 people at our highest county today.
Granted, it does keep out any trouble makers and clans that team stack (BB was doing that Friday).

Speaking of BB, I forgot to tell Dr. Tiddlywink why I did a Team Scramble on Granary during Friday... it was to separate the BBers. By that point, the teams they were on had dominated two maps in a row.

[Didaji]

Last time i played TF2 was 14th Sep. I better come in and join again :)

[Brushfire]

I be getting on now to test out my third string backup mic, if anyone wants to play.

[WindStrike]

Well, I'm in the server now, so I'll just be reading my Ninja Handbook whilst I wait for someone to join.

[Brushfire]

I love that book!!

[Brushfire]

I had a blast yesterday (but I think Atmuh did not like me censoring his Extended remix of "Never Had a Friend Like Me") and I hope to do it again today.

Although it is Monday evening where most of our readers are at, I do hope there is a good turnout today.

[Powerlord]

I had a blast yesterday (but I think Atmuh did not like me censoring his Extended remix of "Never Had a Friend Like Me") and I hope to do it again today.

Although it is Monday evening where most of our readers are at, I do hope there is a good turnout today.

I have to take my car into a glass shop to get a new windshield tomorrow, so if I'm on, I won't be on that late.

[Brushfire]

What happened to your car?

A windshield is something folks definitely need, especially with winter coming soon. Unless your an Aussie.

Speaking of Aussies, deos anyone know what happened to Presh?

[Powerlord]

What happened to your car?

A windshield is something folks definitely need, especially with winter coming soon. Unless your an Aussie.
It developed a huge crack along the bottom of it. My insurance covers all but a $100 deductible.

Speaking of Aussies, does anyone know what happened to Presh?
That wanker went off to join another server.

That reminds me, time to bug Bahamut to clean up the admins list and also remind him to remove people who haven't paid their reserve slot fees lately.

As for me, my reserve slot is paid up for some time, considering that I've paid almost enough for 11 months.

[Brushfire]

Don't remove me!! I'm good for it!! It's just that Christmas is a huge drain on my bank account. Expect my tardy payment of $20 on the 15th-ish.

Don't take away my joy.

[Sensai]

It IS Christmas. It just wouldn't be fitting to deny Brushfire his joy.

And Presh hasn't been on for at least a month. I kinda miss that wanker.

[Zephyr]

I pay 2 months at a time, it works out quite nicely. Almost sad how little use I get out of it lately though... people need to play more!

[Brushfire]

I usually pay $10 a month because I have expendable income, and I like helping our more unfortunate admins.

They are poor >__<

So nobody got on today. Makes me sad that everyone is playing Left4Dead, and I have to wait till the 15th to be able to purchase another copy, as I made the mistake of ordering it off of Amazon for the 360. I do really want those TF2 action figures though. They would look great next to my Beatmania girls.

[Sensai]

Woah woah _woah_.

Brushfire on Left 4 Dead?

....fuck yes.

[Bahamut]

I do have a copy of L4D for $30 if you want....

[Dhsu]

I've got a few friends that are interested if Brushfire doesn't take you up on that.

[Brushfire]

I have already ordered it for PC so you can have free reign Dshu.

[Dhsu]

Awesomesauce.

BTW, Wes, my friend goes by "gwu168" on the server, so you can work out the details with him on Steam chat.

[Bahamut]

Awesomesauce.

BTW, Wes, my friend goes by "gwu168" on the server, so you can work out the details with him on Steam chat.

Have him friend add me or email me then.

[Powerlord]

Hey, does anyone know if HLStatsX points go down over time? For whatever reason, my rank on the server is going up even when I'm not on... I was ranked 7 after the last time I played, and it has risen to 5 since then.

Edit: I also added some new maps to the server. If you've played on the Zora's Domain server, these maps will seem very familiar.
I also added the compressed version of arena_starship to the mirror... according to my logs, only the uncompressed version was there.

As another side note, if you want to download maps from outside the game, all maps hosted on the mirror can be found here (http://tf2.vgmusic.com/maps/).

[Meeting_Gman]

Hey, does anyone know if HLStatsX points go down over time? For whatever reason, my rank on the server is going up even when I'm not on... I was ranked 7 after the last time I played, and it has risen to 5 since then.



What happens is users are removed after a certain time of inactivity, I think.

[Powerlord]

Since TF2 only asks for the compressed versions if they exist, I'm removing the uncompressed versions from the mirror to save disk space.

[Zephyr]

You most likely went up in rank because the people ahead of you lost points and went down past you.

[Powerlord]

You most likely went up in rank because the people ahead of you lost points and went down past you.

Nah, I'm thinking it was a temporary glitch, as it's now been corrected and I'm back at 7.

[Brushfire]

Sooooo, anybody gonna be playin today? Cause I will!!

Also I am designing a patch for my "Nerd Jacket" and need a small bit of assistance. I have designed this crude caveman drawing of it, and I want to know if someone could expand on it and maybe have it not look terrible.

Here is my prototype:

http://epicgaming.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ocr-patch-prototype2.JPG

[Sensai]

So...update time. And somehow, for some reason, it's for the Engineer and Spy.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2096

Enjoy!

Teleporters will be upgradeable to level 3. As the teleporter is upgraded, the cooldown will decrease.
Dispensers will be upgradeable to level 3. They will heal faster and generate metal faster as they are upgraded.
Spies will be able to recharge their cloaking ability by picking up ammo off of the ground.
We've made a bunch of minor changes by adding particle systems and upgrading the HUD to show things like deaths by critical hits, players that are overhealed, and giving more information to medics when people are calling for them.

Ah, after reading a bit more, they're NOT updating the classes (I mean, clearly they are, but it's not equatable to the Pyro update/Heavy update/etc). Just givin' 'em a little boost (for some reason, completely unsure of why).

The next update, officially, is the Scout. Yay!

[Edit:]

I'm pretty sure that the fact that Spies can recharge there cloaks with ammo found on the ground is going to break the game.

[Brushfire]

The next update, officially, is the Scout. Yay!

[Edit:]

I'm pretty sure that the fact that Spies can recharge there cloaks with ammo found on the ground is going to break the game.

Well it's about freaking time!! I don't think it will break crowded games, as everyone will more than likely be rushing for ammo, but in games of 3-3 or lower it will most definitely be broken.

[Meeting_Gman]

So...update time. And somehow, for some reason, it's for the Engineer and Spy.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2096

Enjoy!



Fantastic news. I wonder how that will work though, is it just ammo pickups or can you also recharge it by picking up fallen weapons? It would be more interesting if you could only recharge your cloak by picking up the metal/ammo from destroyed enemy Engie buildings, that would make it more of an incentive to successfully destroy buildings. That would also allow for more reasoning as to what it is that is recharging the cloak, you could say it's batteries or fuel from the Engie buildings (Would also explain why the Spy seems so much more flammable than everyone else).

[Zephyr]

Whoah! that came out of the blue, sweet! Sadly I can't help but believe that this will encourage a ton more turtling, what with the upgradable dispenser, but the upgraded tele will be nice, however it's just another thing to waste metal on I suppose. Will you have to upgrade both halves I wonder? I also wonder if the spy will be able to get ammo for cloak while he's cloaked, cuz if he can then you'll be able to pretty much make it anywhere without worrying about running out of cloak. It'll be really nice though that you won't need to wait in between ventures to the other teams side, as when you're on your side you can just recharge with ammo easily, also I assume you'll be able to use enemy dispensers to recharge cloak as well... how devious. Interesting that it isn't a class update either, so at least there won't be a huge spy/engie rush.

[Powerlord]

Whoah! that came out of the blue, sweet! Sadly I can't help but believe that this will encourage a ton more turtling, what with the upgradable dispenser, but the upgraded tele will be nice, however it's just another thing to waste metal on I suppose. Will you have to upgrade both halves I wonder? I also wonder if the spy will be able to get ammo for cloak while he's cloaked, cuz if he can then you'll be able to pretty much make it anywhere without worrying about running out of cloak. It'll be really nice though that you won't need to wait in between ventures to the other teams side, as when you're on your side you can just recharge with ammo easily, also I assume you'll be able to use enemy dispensers to recharge cloak as well... how devious. Interesting that it isn't a class update either, so at least there won't be a huge spy/engie rush.

I can already think of uses for a level 3 teleporter. BLU on GoldRush part 3, last point for example... I really hate it when we have one TP and it takes f'ing forever to run back to the cart.

As for the cloak recharge... I'd like to know whether it works that way while you're disguised.

[Meeting_Gman]

Just tried to join the server and received this error:

Host_Error: Server is enforcing file consistency for particles/water.pcf

The map is Goldrush

Did a search, but only returned results from Russian websites.

Oh, I see why, it's most likely due to Steams update today. No worries. My apologies.

[Brushfire]

To top it off Steam is down so they may be trying to fix this.

Sigh, there goes my day. May as well clean up the Nerd Room.

EDIR: Sratch that! Looks like they are back up.

[Meeting_Gman]

Here is an image posted on the Steam forum, that shows the change to Goldrush:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2360/plgoldrush0004id5ih0.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plgoldrush0004id5ih0.jpg)

[Brushfire]

I just got off the line with Powerlord. He says that the new update requires about an hour to finish so the OCR server will be invisible for a while. Standby for further developments as they come.

[Powerlord]

To be more accurate, GameServers is saying (http://forums.gameservers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32731) it may take up to an hour to install.

Incidentally, during my own test server's install, the main wait time was waiting for Valve's updates server to respond, and once it responded, the install was done in a few minutes.

I really wish there was a way to see what exactly their server was doing.

[WindStrike]

Lovely... by that time, I'll have to go to bed. ... nah, I'll stick around for a few rounds, so I won't be completely gone.

Demoman stickies... broken apart by bullets... one of the greatest updates yet. Thank god.

[Zephyr]

And just for brushfire here's my crude photoshop drawing:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/nerdjacket.jpg

[Brushfire]

And just for brushfire here's my crude photoshop drawing:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/nerdjacket.jpg

I do like what you have done with my crappy design. Now I just have to figure out a symbol for the Scout and Spy seeing as the don't have patches. I wonder if I should move the Class Ring to the outside of the headphones.

[Powerlord]

Server is up and running again.

[WindStrike]

For the scout, I'd suggest maybe a bat. Spy... ... a silhouette of his head? Yeah, that one, I dunno. But it looks like it'll be pretty darn awesome.

I hope tomorrow night fills up like tonight did. Fun fun... especially being invisible for an eternity.

... oh, and Level 3 teleporters are ridiculously cheap. All ya need is one, and you can get 5 people up to the frontlines within 15 seconds. So broken... level 2 should be the max extent to how fast it can recharge.
Dispensers are just nice now. I wouldn't consider the level 3 version cheap at all.

[Triad Orion]

I agree with the bat, but I'd go with the Backstab kill symbol or just the butterfly knife. Or a sapper. All of those are pretty iconic for the Spy.

And yeah, that was a blast. The first time I've played TF2 in quite a long time. I did miss it, actually.

[Zephyr]

That was fun tonight, I hope they work out some issues, but I know they will. See you all in there later.

[Meeting_Gman]

Seems there are some kinks to work out with the update, but an interesting update nontheless.

[Dhsu]

This caught me completely by surprise. Perfect birthday present. :D

[Zephyr]

Happy Birthday!

[Meeting_Gman]

Happy Birthday Dhsu

[Bahamut]

So I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but it turns out the next class update is for the scout.

[Dhsu]

Haha, I'll be lucky if I even get the first new weapon, I'm so terrible at Scout.

[WindStrike]

Yeah, when that comes out, I'm NOT being scout. One, I hate scout fights, Secondly, Heavy/Engi (mainly dispenser) combo will pwn everything.

That day will be stupid... but not as bad as Engi or Spy day.

[Powerlord]

Valve's also taking suggestions as to what the Scout upgrades will be.

I think Scouts should regain some of their TFC abilities... Caltrops and the ability to undisguise a Spy by touching them.

Unfortunately, neither of these help against a Sentry Gun, which is Scout's greatest weakness.

[Zephyr]

Didn't they also used to have a radar of some kind? That would be a decent addition, especially if it showed engie buildings. I dunno about the spy thing, you can tell that they're spies when you run into them anyways, no need to totally disarm the spy.

[Powerlord]

Didn't they also used to have a radar of some kind? That would be a decent addition, especially if it showed engie buildings. I dunno about the spy thing, you can tell that they're spies when you run into them anyways, no need to totally disarm the spy.

Scout touch decloaking a Spy would cause all sorts of havoc near your team's sentry guns.

[Dhsu]

I'm pretty sure SGs were designed to be anti-Scout (contrary to what the Meet the Scout video might show), so I think it'll stay that way. Otherwise if you take away that weakness, there's not a lot you can do about a good Scout unless you've got a good Natascha Heavy.

@Zephyr and Gman: Thanks. :)

[WindStrike]

Sword replacing bat. That would be... insane. Or a home-run bat.

[Triad Orion]

Louisville Slugger, with a satisfying wooden crack, of course. If it's anything else, I'll be extremely disappointed.

Also, Happy Birthday, Dhsu.

[Dhsu]

Thanks, Triad. :)

BTW I'm pretty sure the new Scout melee will be the Thor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFoWccK3GjM

[DarkeSword]

I have always said that I want more inter-class teamup mechanics. I'd love to see the Engie build a little level 1 portable sentry that he can give to the Scout, who can carry it and drop it places the Engie wouldn't be able to get to. It'd only fire after the Scout dropped it and it couldn't be moved.

[Sensai]

Maybe the other melee weapon for the scout could be something that un-disguises a spy, but does less damage, doesn't crit, attacks slower, something like that.

I don't think the scout needs anything to counter SGs, either. Despite what some people seem to think, there should still be counters to every class even after the update.

[Tensei]

Yes, the scout most definitely will not be buffed vs Sentryguns, it would be plain stupid (similar to giving spies a flame-resistant suit). What I hope to see is a scout that doesn't have to depend on hit an run tactics as much in a chokepoint-filled map like dustbowl and gold rush (the developer have expressed similar intents), so a replacement for the scattergun that is effective at dealing consistent damage on mid/close range, rather than dealing big chunks of damage at once, would be great. Maybe an assault rifle of sorts?

The point is this would make the pistol kind of useless, except for when you run out of ammo. The replacement could be something along the lines of a health-bar detector, which, when you think about it, is quite more useful than it may seem, allowing you to pick out the weakened targets of the enemy team, and generally being quite useful for fulfilling the scout role.

As for the bat? I don't know, maybe one that does half damage normally, but auto-crits when you're carrying the flag/capturing a CP?

[Triad Orion]

The problem with that is the bat does half damage anyway. It swings twice as fast as the other melee weapons, so it's the same DPS, but... anyway, capping and intel running for auto-crits? Too specific. What are you supposed to do with it on Payload or if you're on the Defending team in Dustbowl?

I like the idea of an HP detector and an assault rifle. The difficulty is balancing the latter. If it was effective at middle range, scouts might dominate the slower classes such as a non-Nastacha Heavy and Soldier by utilizing their superior speed even at range to pump them full of bullets. Part of the Scattergun's balance comes from its low effective range. The Scout can still run circles around the Soldiers and Heavies, but they have to get close to really be devastating, giving the Soldier and Heavy a chance to counter with their own, but less effective, shotguns. So... I dunno. The assault rifle would have to do middling damage at best to really not break the slower classes.

[Zephyr]

Saw something weird today, on the death-spectator, it allowed me to see the other team, I'm not sure if this was a server setting or a new patch glitch...

[Powerlord]

Saw something weird today, on the death-spectator, it allowed me to see the other team, I'm not sure if this was a server setting or a new patch glitch...

As I recall, there's a server setting to do it.

So, what's today's password, or is it still "bacon" or are we not doing that this weekend.

P.S. TF2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/) is only $9.99 on Steam this weekend.

[Bahamut]

Today's password will be "bonk"

[Zephyr]

As I recall, there's a server setting to do it.

So, what's today's password, or is it still "bacon" or are we not doing that this weekend.

P.S. TF2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/) is only $9.99 on Steam this weekend.
Holy crap! 10 bucks? Anyone who doesn't have this should get this now!

[Dhsu]

Today's password will be "bonk"
Haha nice.

[Meeting_Gman]

To counter all the funny videos posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLc3HBzfG2k

To go back to the funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKlb6lAmPs

No more musical server silliness, if you leave a server because you dislike someone enough, then you are just ruining the game for yourself.

[Zephyr]

I've been noticing it's actually fairly easy to get the server started when we want to, me and pavlvs got it started yesterday in about 10 minutes. It was great, I often start playing around 7-8 PM CST, see you all then.

[Meeting_Gman]

The recent update, combined with the TF2 10$ sale, should make the server overflow with people. Wonderful!

[Powerlord]

I've been noticing it's actually fairly easy to get the server started when we want to, me and pavlvs got it started yesterday in about 10 minutes. It was great, I often start playing around 7-8 PM CST, see you all then.

I do kinda wish we could get going earlier, though. I didn't even join the TF2 server last night until less than an hour before I should have gone to bed.

[Zephyr]

Just say the word, I've got a good amount of my evenings free.

[WindStrike]

The word? ... Bird. Or BIRDS - http://theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=4

Anyhow, I'm gonna hop on in a few minutes...

[Brushfire]

You can't take away my admin anymore Wes, for I have paid up.

Now stop extorting me and lets play some TF2 already!!

[Bahamut]

You can't take away my admin anymore Wes, for I have paid up.

Now stop extorting me and lets play some TF2 already!!

I think Powerlord was the one extorting, not me :razz:

[Brushfire]

You can't take away my admin anymore Powerlord!! I have paid up.

Now stop extorting me and let's play some TF2 already.

Apologies to Wes, for he is a kind and fair Don.

[Powerlord]

You can't take away my admin anymore Powerlord!! I have paid up.

Now stop extorting me and let's play some TF2 already.

Apologies to Wes, for he is a kind and fair Don.

Well, I was only prodding people about it (no one specifically) because otherwise, Wes foots the bill out of his pocket.

It's, what, $35/month?

[Brushfire]

Well then the Don will be happy to know that the protection money for the server is paid up for this month.

[Zombie]

hey everyone i play this game these days

my username is thatzombieguy

:)

[Dhsu]

The word? ... Bird. Or BIRDS - http://theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=4

Anyhow, I'm gonna hop on in a few minutes...
I'm never gonna get those 30 seconds back...

[Bahamut]

Well, I was only prodding people about it (no one specifically) because otherwise, Wes foots the bill out of his pocket.

It's, what, $35/month?

$35 per month + $8 per month or so with HLStatsX

[Zephyr]

How many shareholders do we have currently? According to my wondrous education (35 + 8) / 3 = 14.3, do we have 14 reserved slot people? Because I know OCR can always use some extra funds if we manage to go overboard.

[PosiBolt]

I really should play more TF2. I can't have Brushfire going around saying he's the best medic for OCR, after all. It would be more accurate to say that he is *currently* the best medic, but only because I stopped playing.

[Brushfire]

I donate 10 a month to try to offset anything if the funds come up short. Poor Wes needs to pay his bills.

The Don needs to get his due.

(Response to PosiBolt) Time to put your medigun where your mouth is bro!! I choose Syringes at high noon!! The winner gets to ask for the sherrif's daughter to marry him.

[Powerlord]

We should play tonight or something.

[Brushfire]

I'm down, I will be here all day.But not this weekend. Gotta work.

[Powerlord]

There was a small update to TF2 since the last time I played it.

I'm not sure what it's supposed to fix as Valve hasn't added new Update News since the major update, but according to my test server install, it adds/replaces the following files:

./orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
./orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
./orangebox\tf\scripts\game_sounds_weapons.txt
./orangebox\tf\scripts\kb_act.lst
./orangebox\tf\sound\weapons\teleporter_spin.wav
./orangebox\tf\sound\weapons\teleporter_spin2.wav
./orangebox\tf\sound\weapons\teleporter_spin3.wav
./orangebox\tf\steam.inf
./orangebox\tf\materials\hud\cart_home_red.vmt
./orangebox\tf\materials\hud\cart_point_neutral.vmt
./orangebox\tf\materials\hud\cart_red.vmt
./orangebox\tf\materials\hud\cart_track_blue.vmt
./orangebox\tf\materials\hud\cart_track_red.vmt
./orangebox\bin\engine_i486.so
./orangebox\bin\materialsystem_i486.so
./orangebox\bin\vphysics_i486.so

and it bumps 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 69 to version 70, 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 21 to version 22, and 'Team Fortress 2 Linux Dedicated Server' from version 50 to version 52. I've updated our server because of this.

[Meeting_Gman]

I wonder if this update removed the ability to upgrade/make visible the dispenser on the cart?

[Zephyr]

I bet it fixed the Teleporter glitch where the glowyness stayed even when the tele was down.

[Powerlord]

Turns out there are Release Notes (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2104/), they just weren't on the Update News thing in the Steam client.

- Fixed overheal particle effect showing up incorrectly on disguised or cloaked spies
- Changed the achievement tracker to only be available in Team Fortress 2
- Added new teleporter sounds for upgrade levels 2 and 3
- Fixed engineers being able to upgrade the bomb cart's dispenser found in Payload levels
- Fixed bomb cart's dispenser being solid to players and projectiles

[Meeting_Gman]

- Fixed overheal particle effect showing up incorrectly on disguised or cloaked spies


Wonderful news, now Medics won't need to fear healing friendly Spies.


- Added new teleporter sounds for upgrade levels 2 and 3


That's nice, but I also wonder if they fixed the entrance glowing when there was no matching exit.


- Fixed engineers being able to upgrade the bomb cart's dispenser found in Payload levels


aww

[Garian]

haha, there should be a cart modeled to look like a dispenser on wheels instead of a dispenser on a giant bomb!

[Brushfire]

Good news everyone!! I will be able to play tomorrow for OCR only day.

Question is: What will be the password?

[MaxFrost]

I'm waiting for the same thing, I finally bought tf2, still getting setup, but I want to play with you guys : /

[Bahamut]

Hmm good question about the PW (I was busy almost all yesterday). Today's PW will be "spysappinmysentry"

[Powerlord]

Hmm good question about the PW (I was busy almost all yesterday). Today's PW will be "spysappinmysentry"

Interestingly, yesterday we seemed to have attracted a group of people who knew each other.

The server was still going strong before I left it around 5am EST.

[Garian]

that's when it died, actually. the server restarted at the end of gravel pit and took about 5 minutes to start back up, and by that time everyone had left. oh well!

[Powerlord]

that's when it died, actually. the server restarted at the end of gravel pit and took about 5 minutes to start back up, and by that time everyone had left. oh well!

Oh, weird.

Yeah, I left after Gravel Pit.

[WindStrike]

Well, I'm in the server right now for who knows how long. I don't have my mic with me cause I didn't bring it with me when we made transit from Raleigh, NC to Kalamazoo, MI (yay 13 hour drive!). And my speakers suck a bit. But I should be mostly able to kill.

[Trianine]

Hey guys I just wanted to put up a list of map recommendations. It's a lot of maps, but then again, the current playlist is a bit narrow for my liking.

Most of these can be found on FPS banana, but I can provide maps that are not. Some of them are really worth it. Many are beta, but that doesn't make them less good. Sorted by favorites and then just plain goodies.

arena_watchtower_b3
cp_concussion_final
ctf_powerhouse_final
cp_science2
cp_blackmesa
cp_desertfortress
cp_monkey_b2
cp_museum
cp_shabbytown_beta2
cp_shabbytown_beta4
ctf_convoy
ctf_hallofdeath (good when the server is small)
ctf_vikings_final
ctf_rocketcity
ctf_watergate (also good for smaller groups)
dom_canalzone (six point cap domination. Only one I've seen in TF2)

cp_corporation_b3
cp_hotelhell
cp_arnold_b3
ctf bedrooms3
cp_blackmesa_v2t3
cp_beamvalley
cp_fallout
cp_labor
cp_mother_lode
cp_roswell
cp_vertigo
cp_warpath
ctf_cancer_beta5
ctf_fishy
ctf_moonwalk_v2
ctf_pinkplazav2
ctf_pool
ctf_switch
tc_spectre

fun maps that need an update
cp_dam
ctf_facelike

[Dhsu]

I think we've got Convoy, Labor, and Warpath, so if you ever want one of those just ask a slot-holder to put up a vote.

[Brushfire]

Soooooo why is no one playing?

[Powerlord]

Soooooo why is no one playing?

I've been waiting for other people to log on, as I've been working on other things.

[Rambo]

Soooooo why is no one playing?

I'll play next weekend. :smile:

[Secret Agent Man]

Nobody was on last night, unfortunately. That was my cameo appearance for winter break too. What a shame.

...Unless people want hot 1400ms ping action.

[Bahamut]

I would've gone on...but a friend invited herself over to my apartment.

[Zephyr]

Server is still locked, an unlock would be great. I'll be playing a bit today I hope. I'll try and get it started later once it's unlocked. Once you get it started it generally lasts for a few hours at least.

Edit: Thanks Baha.

[Powerlord]

Server is still locked, an unlock would be great. I'll be playing a bit today I hope. I'll try and get it started later once it's unlocked. Once you get it started it generally lasts for a few hours at least.

Edit: Thanks Baha.

Unlocked and restarted.

I can't tell from your statement if Baha beat me to it, or if you're just thanking the wrong person. ;-)

[Rambo]

I would've gone on...but a friend invited herself over to my apartment.

Vary naice!! High faiive!

[Zephyr]

Unlocked and restarted.

I can't tell from your statement if Baha beat me to it, or if you're just thanking the wrong person. ;-)
Haha, I posted here, then saw Baha on steam, so I messaged him and he started to restart it but realized you had already started to restart it so it was a big confusing mess... but at first I thought he did it then I posted and he didn't tell me that you were involved until after. I wrote that whole sentence in one breath.

[Brushfire]

I would've gone on...but a friend invited herself over to my apartment.

BOW CHIKA WOW WOW!

But in all seriousness, yesterday was sorta a success. We didn't get as many as we normally do, but we got a couple of new folks who seemed to enjoy themselves.

[superjoe30]

I'm playing tonight. Hop on #ocrtf2 and let me know and I'll switch to the OCR server.

Oh, apparently there are already people online.

[Zephyr]

yeah, we've been scheduling impromptu play times over #ocremix lately, working good so far, good rounds tonight everyone.

[Rambo]

Hey guys. Anyone wanna play TFC?

[Dhsu]

Bahahahaha.

Wub u. <3

[Zephyr]

Oh my. That just made my day. I'm really hoping he never makes it into this thread, batten the hatches! Every man for himself.

[duckyboycantfly]

Oh, I probably should have said this. I'm back home, and since I still get about 30 fps when everything is on low and an 800x600 resolution, on top of a shitty connection, it makes playing this game annoying. Still a pretty good pyro tho http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smilies/icon_smarmy.gif. I should be back whenever school gets back in session, and I'll be back a lot more frequently since my course load for next semester is incredibly light.

I'll try to make OCR saturdays as often as I'm making atmuh's arena awesome fridays (which, as the title suggest, are awesome, and commentated, and no micspam!), but there's no promises.

Baha, I'll probably be sending my renewment for slot-reservation in january, when I get back to the university.

Happy holidays everyone!

[Dhsu]

Oh my. That just made my day. I'm really hoping he never makes it into this thread, batten the hatches! Every man for himself.
Like I said mentioned in the other thread though, I'd be up for some Fortress Forever if anyone else is.

[Blue123]

lolwat is this TFC thing

[Zephyr]

Just go take a look at every locked thread currently on the forums, it'll have something to do with it. Alt.Slack is being stupid.

[Garian]

i'm pretty sure it's "team fortress classic," which if i'm not mistaken is the mod of the original half-life deathmatch? i wasn't into pc gaming back then so i might have it wrong :S

[Powerlord]

yeah, we've been scheduling impromptu play times over #ocremix lately, working good so far, good rounds tonight everyone.

Pssh, I rarely go to #ocremix. Mention them here, too! At least then I'd get a notice in my email because I subscribe to this topic.

i'm pretty sure it's "team fortress classic," which if i'm not mistaken is the mod of the original half-life deathmatch? i wasn't into pc gaming back then so i might have it wrong :S

Yeah... TFC is a port of TF1 to Half-Life's engine.

Most versions of Half-Life shipped with it in the box... the same box that advertised the then-upcoming Team Fortress 2 on it.

[duckyboycantfly]

tf1 is best tf2 is teh sux god flashy grafix dont make a gam u all dum dum heads.

[Blue123]

tf1 is best tf2 is teh sux god flashy grafix dont make a gam u all dum dum heads.

http://e.imagehost.org/0662/1226499846980.jpg

[Zephyr]

Pssh, I rarely go to #ocremix. Mention them here, too! At least then I'd get a notice in my email because I subscribe to this topic.
You must get a lot of emails my friend.

[Powerlord]

You must get a lot of emails my friend.

Well, it's only when I have unread messages.

Still, yeah, it IS a lot of email messages.

[Meeting_Gman]

Did someone say Fortress Forever? I want to play that, but figure I'll just wait until I have the new computer built to install it.

Have a Merry Christmas all you wonderful players of TF2 (and non-players).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6qEbBxhkYE&feature=channel_page

[SirChadlyOC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6qEbBxhkYE&feature=channel_page

That is horrible. Just awful.


But I loved it anyway! :<

[Powerlord]

Can't forget about this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2pL44uOKWk

[Bahamut]

So Atma linked me to this: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74130&page=5

Do you all think this would be a good addition? We have alltalk on all the time now, so it may not, but it is a nifty plugin.

[Meeting_Gman]

So Atma linked me to this: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74130&page=5

Do you all think this would be a good addition? We have alltalk on all the time now, so it may not, but it is a nifty plugin.


It's really nice on Atmuh's server. It's quite bothersome to only be able to text chat amongst the dead.

Powerlord, I was going to post that very clip, but figured I'd show some restraint. Speaking of:

Meet the Gumby Sliding Medic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcKAPdA1vuQ&feature=channel_page

Pointless video and it's nothing new, but I wanted to record it nontheless. 1-2 people here may hear themselves in this one.

[Zephyr]

Haha, when did I miss out on that round! I love crowbar's kefka laugh.

Also, as for the deathchat I'm all for it, no-one would take the time to say anything important or strategic over chat anyways, and we have alltalk on most of the time.

[Powerlord]

So Atma linked me to this: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74130&page=5

Do you all think this would be a good addition? We have alltalk on all the time now, so it may not, but it is a nifty plugin.

Sounds like a good idea, particularly since it's controlled by sv_alltalk.

Oh, on an unrelated note, there's a new version of Metamod: Source out, but I haven't installed it. I don't think it's that critical, it's just an update to make it work with Left 4 Dead.

[Xerol Oplan]

http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1529/621/h9.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1529)
http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1528/620/h8.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1528)
http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1527/619/h7.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1527)

[Dhsu]

Deathchat would be nice so I can warn people about spies after getting stabbed. :P

I'd also be interested in getting the pre-game mayhem plugin (automatically enables friendly fire and instant respawn while waiting for players).

[Meeting_Gman]

Deathchat would be nice so I can warn people about spies after getting stabbed. :P

So many times I've wanted to do that. You die and all you can do is helplessly watch your team mates fall one by one. By the time you respawn the damage is already done.

[Powerlord]

So many times I've wanted to do that. You die and all you can do is helplessly watch your team mates fall one by one. By the time you respawn the damage is already done.

This is also why it's important that this mod uses sv_alltalk as its controlling variable, as if alltalk is off, talking acts the same way as death typing (only dead people can hear it).

[Zephyr]

It is controlled by alltalk? Good, only possible bad thing is that you could probably use team death chat so the spy wouldn't even know.

[Garian]

guys, i'm getting on! i'll probably run around alone for a little while and hope it picks up.

[Meeting_Gman]

guys, i'm getting on! i'll probably run around alone for a little while and hope it picks up.

Ah, you won't be alone. It says there's 9 people on.

Oops, you said that a while ago, never mind me.

[duckyboycantfly]

I'd also be interested in getting the pre-game mayhem plugin (automatically enables friendly fire and instant respawn while waiting for players).

This. Best part of a map change. Gets my carnal "lets put FF on" out of my system, and then I'm ready for some serious tf2in'.

Hey xerol post more screencaps, those contribute nicely to the thread, and are incredibly interesting and insightful! I did not know a spy, sniper, or scout could do any of that, thank you!

[WindStrike]

There's a possibility I won't be on Saturday night (I'll try to force myself if there's enough players). See, I would've gotten on tonight (yesterday at this point), but uhh... I got absorbed in Sins of a Solar Empire. It's an evil game. Very, very evil. ... then again, something tells me a lot of people won't be on Sat. night due to whatever the heck they got.

[Brushfire]

Today's games was a rousing success!!

I do hope everyone joins Atmuh's Arena Mic Spam night for punch and pie tomorrow night.

[Bahamut]

So I just added this plugin to the server: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=77232

I'll add the deathchat thingy shortly.

[Powerlord]

So I just added this plugin to the server: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=77232

I'll add the deathchat thingy shortly.

Did you bump the Waiting for Players time as well? Not even considering this plugin, I've noticed that it's a bit too short.

[Bahamut]

Did you bump the Waiting for Players time as well? Not even considering this plugin, I've noticed that it's a bit too short.

Do you think it should be bumped up?

[Powerlord]

Do you think it should be bumped up?

Yes, to at least 40 seconds. I think it's set to 20 right now.

[Bahamut]

Alright done.

[Zephyr]

Cool, sounds good I like pregame mayhem.

[Meeting_Gman]

Today's games was a rousing success!!

I do hope everyone joins Atmuh's Arena Mic Spam night for punch and pie tomorrow night.

I do hope so, but am not certain. The commentary last Friday made for an interesting game.

[Powerlord]

As part of Steam's post-holiday sale (http://store.steampowered.com/holidaysale/), Team Fortress 2 is again $9.99, through January 2nd.

EVERYTHING on the Steam store is on sale by at least 10%. Popular titles like Spore, Left 4 Dead, and the Valve Complete Pack are 25% off.

[Meeting_Gman]

urgh, Counter Strike Source is finally on sale.

[Powerlord]

urgh, Counter Strike Source is finally on sale.

If you get CS Source, I'll have to... pump... you up!

SEE WHAT I DID THAR?!

[Zephyr]

I'd love to get Audiosurf for $5, but I don't know if it's worth the effort of dealing with their credit card system, I've heard people have trouble with it.

[Meeting_Gman]

If you get CS Source, I'll have to... pump... you up!

SEE WHAT I DID THAR?!

hahah Well, I got more then I should have:

Bejeweled Deluxe
Bioshock
Counter Strike: Source
Half Life: Blue Shift
Half Life: Opposing Force

[Powerlord]

hahah Well, I got more then I should have:

Bejeweled Deluxe
Bioshock
Counter Strike: Source
Half Life: Blue Shift
Half Life: Opposing Force

I already had the last 3 you mentioned. I got the last two for free just by regging HL1 when Steam was brand new. :D

P.S. "Pump... you up!" was both a reference to Saturday Night Live and to your avatar (from Dig Dug).

P.P.S. If your avatar isn't the little fire breathing guy from Dig Dug... whoops.

[Meeting_Gman]

I already had the last 3 you mentioned. I got the last two for free just by regging HL1 when Steam was brand new. :D

P.S. "Pump... you up!" was both a reference to Saturday Night Live and to your avatar (from Dig Dug).

P.P.S. If your avatar isn't the little fire breathing guy from Dig Dug... whoops.

:D Indeed he is! hahah It didn't dawn on me at first (In reference to my avatar).Cute joke!

[Sensai]

Zephyr, as a recent convert to Audiosurf I can safely recommend it to you. It's MUCH better than I remembered it being.

And I've never had any problem at all with my credit card and Steam...nor has anyone I know. Care to go into detail about the problem more?

And I just got done playing TF2 for the first time in about a billion years and it was a lot of fun. L4D is too srs bizznass all the time...it was nice for a change in pace.

[Brushfire]

Yo! B-Man, what is today's password gonna be?

[Bill Lumbergh]

who cares
lets just play

[Brushfire]

Fine by me, I get on now.

[Bahamut]

For some reason I thought today was Friday. I guess no pw for today.

[Bahamut]

To everyone on the server: Again, I expect there to be a no tolerance policy on micspamming - I don't want to hear of anyone ever doing it, and it is worthy of a swift server-side mute, and then a ban if the person continues to complain after being made aware of the rule. Atma has been claiming Brushfire has been doing it (not sure if this is true, or unprovoked by his own micspamming, as I cannot trust his words due to previous vile lies, but if so, I don't want to hear of it happening again), but I don't know why he thinks it's validation that it should be done. The rule has always been no micspamming, and it stays that way.

The only way I accept an unban in this situation is if the person promises to dutifully obeys the rules of the server in earnest. Atma refused to do so, so this particular ban stays.

[Brushfire]

I have been doing the music thing, but if someone asks me to turn it off, for the most part I do. (Just ask Garian) When dealing with Micspammers I will generally just mute them instead of banning them tho. As for the one guy I kicked, he was Demo Sticky camping and I did warn him. He had it coming.

[duckyboycantfly]

Crappy graphics make me angry, so I'm sorry if I'm a dickwad or trolling for the next couple of weeks.

Gah, I don't see most of my deaths anymore, they just happen. How do people play like this?

[Brushfire]

I dunno, I don't think I could play this game on anything lower than 1920 x 1080 resolution with max settings.

But in all seriousness, I don't think you did terrible today. I mean you are still in the top 40 of the server and that counts for something right?

[Meeting_Gman]

Crappy graphics make me angry, so I'm sorry if I'm a dickwad or trolling for the next couple of weeks.

Gah, I don't see most of my deaths anymore, they just happen. How do people play like this?

I whine about it plenty, for me I play on all low settings (except for textures), 1024x768 resolution running at a usual 7fps in battle. I'm sorry you have to deal with that as it does lower enjoyment of playing. You will gradually adjust to it though.

[EdgeCrusher]

On the topic of micspamming, I don't mind the music on smaller games, like if there are 6 people there or so. It was fun the other night doing it. But when you got 20+ people there, that fucks with the communication. Plus atmuh's navi HEY HEY HEY thing every couple of seconds is very annoying.

[Bill Lumbergh]

see this isnt fair
people sayin stuff without giving me a chance to say anything

here have a chatlog

[00:15:23] <atmuh> yeah but im pretty sure that IF TWO ADMINS WERE OK WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON
[00:15:32] <atmuh> some faggot shouldnt be able to join and ban me and tralala
[00:15:37] <Bahamut> powerlord hardly uses his admins
[00:15:41] <atmuh> he did today
[00:15:43] <Bahamut> and brush forgets he even has them
[00:15:45] <atmuh> to ban a micspammer
[00:15:49] <atmuh> and brush knows he has them
[00:15:57] <atmuh> he mutes people and occasionally kicks
[00:16:04] <atmuh> i play enough to know that
[00:16:12] <atmuh> and tonight
[00:16:15] <atmuh> NO ONE complained
[00:16:23] <Bahamut> I've heard plenty of complaints
[00:16:25] <Bahamut> from various people
[00:16:30] <atmuh> when people tell me to PLAY ANOTHER THING
[00:16:32] <Bahamut> who decided to stay away rather than deal with whining
[00:16:33] <atmuh> i do it
[00:16:41] <atmuh> well it was full
[00:16:47] <atmuh> so i wasnt driving anyone away
[00:17:01] <Bahamut> these were regulars who were complaining
[00:17:18] <atmuh> ya who
[00:17:20] <Bahamut> the only way I'll let you get unbanned this time is if you promise to not test the limits and micspam or any of that crap
[00:17:31] <atmuh> when an admin tells me to stop
[00:17:34] <atmuh> ive always stopped
[00:17:40] <atmuh> im not testing anything
[00:17:43] <Bahamut> they shouldn't have to even do so in the first place
[00:17:49] <atmuh> and they rarely do
[00:17:56] <atmuh> because i know when its just pissing people off
[00:18:02] <Bahamut> no you don't
[00:18:05] <atmuh> which it wasnt tonight
[00:18:08] <Bahamut> because I've had at least 3 people complain in the last 2 days
[00:18:16] <atmuh> lets guess
[00:18:18] <atmuh> trianine
[00:18:20] <atmuh> garian
[00:18:28] <atmuh> maybe powerlord but idk about him
[00:18:35] <Bahamut> there were others
[00:18:42] <Bahamut> in any case, you just lied right there
[00:18:50] <atmuh> lolwut
[00:18:51] <Bahamut> you clearly were bothering some people
[00:18:55] <Bahamut> and yet didn't stop
[00:18:57] <atmuh> trianine wasnt annoyed
[00:19:02] <atmuh> he mutes me as soon as he gets on
[00:19:06] <atmuh> regardless of what i did
[00:19:09] <atmuh> just in case i do
[00:19:15] <atmuh> which is fine with me and fine with him
[00:19:21] <Bahamut> he wasn't one of the ones I was talking about
[00:19:28] <Bahamut> some people were talking about it on L4D I remember
[00:19:40] <Bahamut> and there was a time on IRC as well people were telling me
[00:19:47] <Bahamut> in any case, I gave you the deal
[00:19:52] <Bahamut> up to you
[00:20:30] <atmuh> i think its quite dumb that can jump on there and just do that when 2 admins were totally fine with it
[00:20:40] <atmuh> so no i aint changing what im doing keep me banned
[00:20:46] <Bahamut> and I think it's dumb that you don't follow the server rules
[00:21:12] <atmuh> neither do lots of peopel
[00:21:14] <atmuh> people
[00:21:23] <Bahamut> except most people don't push it as badly as you do
[00:21:33] <atmuh> people were complaining about brushfire playing music tonight
[00:21:36] <atmuh> gonna do anything about that?
[00:22:10] <Bahamut> anything I've heard happening usually stemmed from your poor example
[00:22:29] <atmuh> o yes everything is my fault
[00:22:38] <atmuh> hows about
[00:22:50] <atmuh> when garian hops on he says HEY YOU GONNA STOP THAT OR WHAT
[00:22:55] <Bahamut> except here is an instance where it's pretty obvious
[00:22:57] <atmuh> nope nothing instaban
[00:23:03] <atmuh> yeah except he had no context
[00:23:12] <Bahamut> context is retroactive
[00:23:12] <atmuh> when people ask me to play more
[00:23:14] <atmuh> i play it
[00:23:29] <atmuh> i usually ask if its ok
[00:23:34] <atmuh> and if it is i do
[00:23:39] <atmuh> you can look at logs for that
[00:24:02] <atmuh> youve got too many admins anyway
[00:24:12] <Bahamut> I've heard otherwise, and I really can't trust you to tell me the truth :/
[00:24:29] <atmuh> if i had some saved demos id show ya but i dont
[00:24:43] <atmuh> but seriously
[00:24:48] <atmuh> even if you keep me banned
[00:24:54] <atmuh> take away garians admins
[00:25:00] <atmuh> thats a pretty awful choice for an admin
[00:25:18] <Bahamut> from what garian has been telling me, he was in the right in every situation really
[00:25:53] <atmuh> not really, as i said he could have ASKED ME TO STOP
[00:26:10] <Bahamut> he doesn't have to if it's an issue of micspamming
[00:26:10] <atmuh> and kick before ban thats usually a nicer thing to do
[00:26:13] <atmuh> yes he does
[00:26:18] <atmuh> because
[00:26:20] <atmuh> as i said
[00:26:21] <Bahamut> I've even banned sometimes outright
[00:26:23] <atmuh> i only do it
[00:26:30] <atmuh> when people are ok with it/ask for it
[00:26:36] <atmuh> OR IF BRUSHFIRE STARTS IT
[00:26:42] <atmuh> who is an admin
[00:26:44] <atmuh> on your server
[00:26:57] <atmuh> so yeah
[00:27:47] <atmuh> and i told powerlord outright
[00:28:01] <atmuh> if i play too much feel free to mute me
[00:28:05] <atmuh> as in sm_mute
[00:28:17] <atmuh> you can ask him that yourself
[00:28:30] <Bahamut> but you're missing the point
[00:28:37] <atmuh> no i think you are
[00:28:40] <Bahamut> I shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because you shouldn't have done that in the first place
[00:28:52] <Bahamut> and every time I've seen it in game I did a swift ban
[00:28:54] <atmuh> and neither should one of the admins on your server
[00:29:46] <atmuh> and i wouldnt do it if the people didnt request it
[00:29:50] <atmuh> as i said
[00:29:57] <atmuh> not pubs either
[00:30:00] <atmuh> regulars
[00:30:05] <Bahamut> again, you shouldn't have been doing it in the first place
[00:30:11] <Bahamut> it's in the MOTD
[00:30:43] <atmuh> sure but if the whole server (or everyone that speaks up) is ok with it or requests it
[00:30:51] <atmuh> OR IF AN ADMIN STARTS THE CHAIN
[00:30:57] <atmuh> then i do it
[00:31:25] <atmuh> if an admin tells me to stop
[00:31:27] <atmuh> i stop
[00:31:34] <atmuh> pretty easy
[00:31:41] <atmuh> people enjoy it a lot more than dislike it
[00:32:50] <atmuh> but fine if its totally bannable youd better tell brushfire to stop doing that because he does it all the time
[00:33:31] <atmuh> and once again
[00:34:01] <atmuh> a random admin shouldnt be able to hop on and just ban someone outright for something that is bothering literally no one else on the server
[00:34:28] <atmuh> because anyone that disliked it threw on a quick mute and got on with their lives
[00:34:30] <Bahamut> and you shouldn't have been doing that something in the first place
[00:34:43] <atmuh> [00:32:50] <atmuh> but fine if its totally bannable youd better tell brushfire to stop doing that because he does it all the time
[00:34:54] <Bahamut> he has never done it when I was on
[00:35:03] <Bahamut> which means he only must've started after you started that crap
[00:35:04] <atmuh> and have i dont it when you were on?
[00:35:08] <atmuh> wrong
[00:35:21] <atmuh> we both started playing music in tf2 at basically the same time
[00:35:25] <atmuh> he was the one that taught me how
[00:36:21] <Bahamut> how is this relevant to you doing what shouldn't have been done
[00:36:29] <atmuh> [00:34:43] <atmuh> [00:32:50] <atmuh> but fine if its totally bannable youd better tell brushfire to stop doing that because he does it all the time

[Powerlord]

I've made yet another change to the alltalk setting. I've removed it from the configuration.

That means it'll stay at whatever the last alltalk setting was at on a map change. This also has the side effect of having alltalk off when the server starts.

Admins can change the alltalk setting using the Server Cvars menu option (4, I think).

Reserved slot holders can start an alltalk vote with votealltalk (I think) or in the menu under Voting Commands.

[Tensei]

I think I was the one who started playing music. I remember showing brushfire how to use HLDJ, I don't remember atmuh ever playing music. Ergo, atmuh started doing it after brushfire.

[Zephyr]

*Sigh* so much banning drama.

I'll take a little of each persons side on this one, most people lately have seemed okay with micspam, it's seriously bothered me sometimes, but then I just use client-side mute and there's no problems. As for using it on OCR, yes brushfire did use it fairly often too, and also other third parties. Maybe there should just be a rule of no micspam with over 6/8 people or something, and if anyone complains you have to stop, of course that just blurs the line more. Many people seem to really enjoy it, which I don't personally understand since I just play my own music outside of TF2, but if they wanna keep doing it it's fine with me, I'll just mute them.

[Bahamut]

*Sigh* so much banning drama.

I'll take a little of each persons side on this one, most people lately have seemed okay with micspam, it's seriously bothered me sometimes, but then I just use client-side mute and there's no problems. As for using it on OCR, yes brushfire did use it fairly often too, and also other third parties. Maybe there should just be a rule of no micspam with over 6/8 people or something, and if anyone complains you have to stop, of course that just blurs the line more. Many people seem to really enjoy it, which I don't personally understand since I just play my own music outside of TF2, but if they wanna keep doing it it's fine with me, I'll just mute them.

The philosophy behind the No Micspamming rule is that it is easier for the micspammer to not micspam than it is for someone to mute them, and if it's multiple people who have to do so, then it's multiple people's inconvenience compared to one person's wish to micspam, and for a server environment that's designed to be cordial and respectful to others, micspamming is the opposite, especially if someone wants to listen to their own music (i.e. the radio stations or their own playlists).

From what I've gathered, multiple people would put atma on mute, and a good deal were happy with the banning and life went on. Even when I was on a few times before break, those Hakuna Matatas and other micspam bits were getting fairly annoying, and that type of crap would've normally gotten a swift server mute/ban from me.

Edit: Permanent bans are fixed in the server.cfg, but anyone using tempbans should keep in mind that they are lost whenever there is a server restart.

[Rambo]

Crappy graphics make me angry, so I'm sorry if I'm a dickwad or trolling for the next couple of weeks.

Gah, I don't see most of my deaths anymore, they just happen. How do people play like this?


Graphics mean nothing in video games. It's all about gameplay. No developers seem to understand this nowadays. Instead they make crappy games with flashy graphics like TF2 instead of quality games like TFC. I don't understand why everyone thinks like this. And noone has given me a counter example.

[duckyboycantfly]

Graphics mean nothing in video games. It's all about gameplay. No developers seem to understand this nowadays. Instead they make crappy games with flashy graphics like TF2 instead of quality games like TFC. I don't understand why everyone thinks like this. And noone has given me a counter example.
http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smilies/icon_smarmy.gif

I am lucky that i only have about 20 more days left of shitty tf2.

hopefully I won't get to play on some shitty drama-filler server coming back.

>.<
(then again micspam doesnt bother me, muting takes a second if it does, and i'm generally never a stickler for the rules. from what i've read, somebody joining then swiftly banning would probably piss me off to no ends. just my opinion, but i wasn't there, and that was probably a pretty one-sided account)

[Sensai]

Graphics mean nothing in video games. It's all about gameplay. No developers seem to understand this nowadays. Instead they make crappy games with flashy graphics like TF2 instead of quality games like TFC. I don't understand why everyone thinks like this. And noone has given me a counter example.

I'm not sure what you mean by a counter example, but it's not true that everyone feels that games need be spiffy looking to be good. Look at the whole retro-revival thing going down with Mega Man 9 and the remake of SF2. There was also that Bionic Commando game that was recently made, but I know nothing about that at all.

Although I think you're post might have been being sarcastic or joking. In that case...please disregard everything I've said in this post (or all of them! I don't say much of anything useful anyways). :-D

[Rambo]

I'm not sure what you mean by a counter example, but it's not true that everyone feels that games need be spiffy looking to be good. Look at the whole retro-revival thing going down with Mega Man 9 and the remake of SF2. There was also that Bionic Commando game that was recently made, but I know nothing about that at all.

Although I think you're post might have been being sarcastic or joking. In that case...please disregard everything I've said in this post (or all of them! I don't say much of anything useful anyways). :-D

haha <3 you sensai.

Yeah it was an inside joke from a previous thread(s) on this forum. :<

[Zephyr]

I'm not sure what you mean by a counter example, but it's not true that everyone feels that games need be spiffy looking to be good. Look at the whole retro-revival thing going down with Mega Man 9 and the remake of SF2. There was also that Bionic Commando game that was recently made, but I know nothing about that at all.

Although I think you're post might have been being sarcastic or joking. In that case...please disregard everything I've said in this post (or all of them! I don't say much of anything useful anyways). :-D
I lol'ed, hehe, out of the loop...:nicework:

[Dhsu]

On a related note, I can't wait for Black Mesa to come out. Then I can finally play Half-Life without puking!

[Bahamut]

http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smilies/icon_smarmy.gif

I am lucky that i only have about 20 more days left of shitty tf2.

hopefully I won't get to play on some shitty drama-filler server coming back.

>.<
(then again micspam doesnt bother me, muting takes a second if it does, and i'm generally never a stickler for the rules. from what i've read, somebody joining then swiftly banning would probably piss me off to no ends. just my opinion, but i wasn't there, and that was probably a pretty one-sided account)

In this case, it was a pretty clear cut abuse of micspamming to the point where a lot of the people on the server would put atma on mute. He claimed that it didn't bother a lot of people, but all I heard was the opposite, which meant that he deliberately lied to me or really was ignorant in order to push his childish wishes for micspamming.

He kept trying to put himself above the rule despite a good deal of complaints from regulars, and if he can't control himself, then he doesn't belong on the server. I even gave him an offer to get unbanned, but he doesn't wish to take responsibility for anything (as witnessed in the PM convo he posted, which doesn't help his cause, especially when I found out that some of what he told me was a bold faced lie). The admins shouldn't be a baby monitoring service catering to every whimsical infraction for a regular :? .

[Dhsu]

I think Brushfire owes us some clarification!

[Sensai]

/sigh

So outta the loop. :-(

And I'm convinced that Black Mesa Source is never going to come out, ever. It's been in production for damn near forever by this point...I think it's a race between it and Duke Nukem Forever.

[Brushfire]

I think Brushfire owes us some clarification!

Atmuh is my friend and I try to support him as best as I can. Now usually if it gets out of hand I will server mute him. I was getting to that point with nearly constant "OH MY GOOOOOD" sound bite he kept playing but Garian swooped in and banned him without a warning. He may have said stop, I am not sure on that one. This particular instance was indeed annoying alot of folks. IMO though, he did not deserve a banning. Most of the time if you server mute him, he will stop. Oh well.

On the upside, Prototype patch #2 is sketched out.

Lemme know what you think.

http://epicgaming.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ocr-patch-prototype2.jpg

[Sensai]

Y'ever notice how all the server drama, or at least 95% of it, involves Atmuh?


....:-D

[Dhsu]

Y'ever notice how all the server drama, or at least 95% of it, involves Atmuh?


....:-D
That's how he roll. OuO

BTW, face and bacon on the headphones is GENIUS.

I don't think you need to have "OCR" after the "Overclocked Remix" text though. Maybe have the website URL somewhere though.

[Xerol Oplan]

Where's that sniper?
http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1532/622/ha.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1532)
Oh.
http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1533/623/hb.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1533)

http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1534/624/hc.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1534)
http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1535/625/hd.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1535)

http://xerol.org/h/v/t/1536/626/he.png (http://xerol.org/h/img/1536)
Why is there a 4 image limit?

[Bahamut]

Why is there a 4 image limit?

It has always been like that since the switch to vBulletin. If you want to know, ask Dave at MAGFest.

[Xerol Oplan]

I thought he upped it after people were having issues in meetup threads.

[Bahamut]

We would just merge the posts for them.

[Powerlord]

It does disappoint me that our TF2 server sits idle while people actually join Atmuh's server.

I hate playing on his server, because I have to constantly stop and Mute people to avoid going insane... and I've seen people (0ptik) kicked because they tried to talk while others were micspamming.

[Zephyr]

On the upside, Prototype patch #2 is sketched out.

Lemme know what you think.

Pic

I'm on it sir *salutes*

Did you want the OCR headphones, or can you find a different picture you'd like used? I like this design better than the last one.

[Bahamut]

It does disappoint me that our TF2 server sits idle while people actually join Atmuh's server.

I hate playing on his server, because I have to constantly stop and Mute people to avoid going insane... and I've seen people (0ptik) kicked because they tried to talk while others were micspamming.

Well after MAGFest I'd be able to go on some more, but while in NY, I can't really play TF2.

[Brushfire]

That's how he roll. OuO

BTW, face and bacon on the headphones is GENIUS.

I don't think you need to have "OCR" after the "Overclocked Remix" text though. Maybe have the website URL somewhere though.

I thought that was a tad redundant. Definetly a URL is the better route to go.

[Brushfire]

Our poor wittle server has been dead the last few days. WTC guys?

[duckyboycantfly]

It does disappoint me that our TF2 server sits idle while people actually join Atmuh's server.

I hate playing on his server, because I have to constantly stop and Mute people to avoid going insane... and I've seen people (0ptik) kicked because they tried to talk while others were micspamming.

Cry some more. WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

People are just going where ever there are other people. Atmuh's server has generally two communities (this and remod) feeding into it, plus the commentor nights are just getting legendary. Get a group of your friends to join the ocr server, and maybe more people will join up. It might take a couple nights of trying, but eventually everyone will come on, and it'll be full.

(i just have more fun on atmuhs cause i has adminsish~)

[Effef]

It does disappoint me that our TF2 server sits idle while people actually join Atmuh's server.

I hate playing on his server, because I have to constantly stop and Mute people to avoid going insane... and I've seen people (0ptik) kicked because they tried to talk while others were micspamming.

Don't like the rules? Don't join.

Wed be better off without you if you do this shit.

[Powerlord]

Don't like the rules? Don't join.

Wed be better off without you if you do this shit.

I suppose if I don't like the rules I should also stop mirroring maps for him?

Oh, you didn't know I did that, huh?

[Effef]

I suppose if I don't like the rules I should also stop mirroring maps for him?

Oh, you didn't know I did that, huh?

Actually yeah I did, and I don't give a fuck.

And neither does he apparently.

yeah powerlord seemed reluctant to continue hosting my maps so i said screw it ill find some new hosting and crowbar/we're meeting gman offered so they host em now

anyways rofl stuff last night, really

[Powerlord]

Actually yeah, and I don't give a fuck.

And neither does he apparently.

Excellent. Saves me bandwidth.

It would have been nice if he'd actually told me he'd stopped using it as a mirror, so I didn't, say, waste my time putting pl_donkeykong_final on my mirror. I haven't just been hosting the maps, I've been taking the time to recompress them in the one compressed format TF2 understands (bz2) because sites like FPSBanana don't have them in that format.

So... anyone up to playing on OCR's server tonight?

[Brushfire]

So... anyone up to playing on OCR's server tonight?

I will be if I get up early enough tomorrow before I have to get ready for work.

It is more than likely though.

[EdgeCrusher]

Ill be around all night if anyone else wants to get on.

[duckyboycantfly]

god effef u suk u such a remodder why don't u just gtfo and go poast like atmuh or smth.

I'd be up for playing, but my lack of a playable game makes it hard to, well, play.

I'll be there in spirit!

[WindStrike]

Lock and load, suckers!

... in a few hours.

[Rambo]

god effef u suk u such a remodder why don't u just gtfo and go poast like atmuh or smth.

I'd be up for playing, but my lack of a playable game makes it hard to, well, play.

I'll be there in spirit!

I'm looking into playing toniiiight. I play with minimal settings too!!! :smile:/:sad:

[Meeting_Gman]

Your efforts were greatly appreciated, Powerlord! I figured hosting the files on my site would give you a rest and would also be a thank-you to Atmuh. I'm sorry I didn't let you know so you could remove the files from your server.

Worthless news is I finished building the computer and am on it now, just waiting for TF2 to download and I will probably be playing it all the remainder of today and then tomorrow. I'm interested to see how it fares.

Happy New Years everyone! May you have a happy and healthy new year.

[duckyboycantfly]

Woo people playing!

The graphics were actually bearable for a while with the people there.

Also, best map:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/thisisnotmatt/pl_donkeykong_final0013.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/thisisnotmatt/pl_donkeykong_final0002.jpg

[Powerlord]

I added a few maps to the server:
cp_blackmesa
cp_desertfortress
cp_shabbytown_beta2 (couldn't find beta4)
pl_donkeykong_final
pl_cashworks_a5 (and removed a3a)
pl_hoodoo_b5 (and removed b4a)

Also, sorry to everyone if we were playing last night, I went to bed early because I had a headache.

[duckyboycantfly]

I added a few maps to the server:
pl_donkeykong_final

Thank you.

[Zephyr]

MK II - Couldn't find a great rocket, so I used a shovel. I think I found a pretty nice spy mask, This was just another draft up, let me know what you'd like changed (like having the speaker in the OCR)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/Zephyr_Tread/nerdjacketpatchJPEG.jpg

[Powerlord]

What about this Spy Mask, from the "I Fry" achievement... just remove the flames:
http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/apps/440/c2fef3239a7454e044bcc006d284856c37d7f4b3.jpg
or
http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/apps/440/7306eac0fdcba244b9084879f82c89fed7fc3ae1.jpg

[WindStrike]

The happy one seems more fitting. That logo is frigin' sweet.

Also, I'm probably gonna hop on in like, 30 minutes. If I don't, it's cause I put too much vanilla extract in my hot chocolate/cocoa/whatever you wanna call it, and it's pretty much got the same intoxication effect root beer has on me, except several times stronger. So yes, I may actually end up playing partially... "drunk." Hooray for underage legal drinking.

Oh yeah, what's the password for the server today?

[Zephyr]

Don't think there's gonna be one, no-one around. But I'm around! and ready to play!

[EdgeCrusher]

I'll get on if we get some hot brushfire action going on there :D

[Brushfire]

I'll get on if we get some hot brushfire action going on there :D

BOW CHIKA WOW W-wait, what? Sorry I couldn't get on today, I tried getting up early but I just couldn't.

To Zeph: That looks freaking good. The only thing that I can think of as an improvement would be to put a black outline to kinda break up the coloring around everything. Patch will be a 6 inch patch so it should have enough room.