Live Action Cowboy Bebop in the works [Archive]

BooDidley7

07-23-2008, 05:18 PM

First they rape and pillage Transformers and G.I. Joe. Now they move on to GITS and Bebop.

Thanks again Hollywood!

Unless something miraculous happens and we get a Christopher Nolan-like screenwriter/director, committed to respecting and faithfully re-interpreting source material, 10 to 1, this Bebop film will be all about Kung-Fu and Bullet-time yawning effects, a likely uninspired spacejet chase, and by-the-numbers movie plot points, while completely missing what really made the series great.

To assure total suckage:
Jet: Michael Clarke Duncan
Spike: Paul Walker
Faye: Milla Jovovich
Ed: Mary Kate or Ashley Olson
Ein: Replaced with dog with pieces of metal sticking out of his head and a robotic "woof "
Vicious: Jet Li

The Damned

07-23-2008, 05:47 PM

Morgan Freeman as Jet Black
No. Too old and not big enough. Besides, Jet wan't black, he was vaguely asian-ish.
Cristina Ricci as Ed
No. She's too old, tall and not odd-ball enough
and the dog from airbud(could also be David Bowie) as Ein and we have an all-star cast in the making.
Oh, I get it, you're just being silly. You got me.

Honestly, I can't see it working. Unless they have a large amount of the original staff overseeing things, and they keep the same style and feel to it (which is easily lost when going from animation to life action, and even more from a Japanese studio to an American one), and they cast very carefully, this will most likely be very bd.

Also, I know that Hollywood is desperate for ideas, but do they really have to start making anime-to-live-action conversions? I mean, come on... some things don't covert well.

Speed Racer seems to have been successful enough to make everyone think this is a good idea.

Poke'G

07-23-2008, 06:05 PM

If the producers had enough faith in the material to want to take a crack at it, why not try and commission another animated movie from Watanabe?

Why does everything animated have to go live action in Hollywood? It works often enough, but for some reason, Cowboy Bebop going live just seems absurd. In fact, considering Speed Racer bombed, I can't believe this got greenlit.

atmuh

07-23-2008, 06:06 PM

because they already had a silly cartoon movie

Dhsu

07-23-2008, 06:35 PM

I approve solely because of the hilarious threads that live-action anime movies always generate.

Neo Samus

07-23-2008, 07:53 PM

Cristina Ricci as Eddie

Nah, her boobs are too big. :<:<:<

The Phalanx

07-23-2008, 08:53 PM

Hay guys, this can't possibly go wrong.

Look how well the Dead or Alive movie did!

Skullbullet

07-23-2008, 08:58 PM

Personally, I'm waiting to see how well Dragon Ball goes over before casting any judgments on this. If James Marsters makes the great villain I know he is, there may be hope yet.

atmuh

07-23-2008, 08:59 PM

dragonball rofl

The Author

07-23-2008, 09:05 PM

Penfold

07-23-2008, 09:21 PM

Hahahahaha. This'll be as good compared to the source as the American remake of My Sassy Girl.

Poke'G

07-23-2008, 09:28 PM

You have to admit, Speed Racer was good.

Indeed it was. I thought they would do a good job and they did. The sad story is that the public didn't seem to agree. Warner lost a ton of money on that movie.

But where I could see a live action version of Speed Racer, Cowboy Bebop live seems like an abominable notion. I watch the series, see what they want to do now, and I have to ask why.

Although, I guess it would be a lot like Serenity, but in such a case I'd rather see a Serenity 2.

audio fidelity

07-23-2008, 10:26 PM

if kanno isn't apart of it, its a travesty.

we'll see

The Damned

07-23-2008, 10:37 PM

You have to admit, Speed Racer was good.
That's subjective, but that's also a giant other conversation.

The thing with Speed Racer is that it's an ancient series that hasn't been seen much of in decades. Most of its fame before the movie was from really old watchers and the occasional use in a Geico commercial. It's faded from most people's memories and interpretation is very open.

Cowboy Bebop is still relatively new, and the series is well known amongst anime fans all over the place. It very fresh in people's minds.

The two are rather different that way. That's why altering the source material even a little is going to be a major issue.

Maco70

07-24-2008, 05:56 PM

I don't like this idea...
I'll hold my judgments until a trailer or the like is released, but they had better do a damn good job, or this will be as big a disaster as speed racer.

tgfoo

07-24-2008, 06:04 PM

I've already resigned myself to the fact that this movie is going to suck. Even if it does turn out to be a pretty decent movie (for non-Cowboy Bebop fans) I get the feeling that anyone who watched and enjoyed the show will be disappointed with whatever they come up with.

And it would be kinda a shame if Yoko Kanno doesn't do the music, as her music pretty much set the tone for the show and is a big reason why it's so memorable to me.

SynthesizedStampede

07-25-2008, 07:23 AM

Aw man, I really hope they don't screw up the movie, which will most likely end up happening. I highly enjoyed the chill, humorous, and action-packed nature of the anime, it was one of those shows that you really actually enjoyed watching even though you weren't expecting it to come on.

I really don't want this movie to be like, you know, a very hollywood-esque film, meaning no explosions everywhere and whatnot. I hope the actors nail their parts perfectly, the character development, interaction, and attitudes really helped make the anime interesting.

I-n-j-i-n

07-25-2008, 08:11 AM

Brushfire

07-25-2008, 08:16 AM

First they rape and pillage Milla Jovovich as Faye "woof"

Nah. Her her boobs are big enough.

Thylacine

07-25-2008, 10:31 AM

Does anyone else see a huge problem trying to cast Edward? Not only will the girl have to be young enough to have not... developed... but she'll have to wear very little clothing.

I see them casting Edward as a male. Just throwing that out there. And it could not only be a problem of finding a girl they can use, but Hollywood might be dumb and think Edward's really a guy. Think about it: How often is Edward given definitive proof as a girl? How many of you can look at a picture of Edward and say that's a girl (without having seen the series, of course)?

...They just better get Jet right. And I agree with I-n-j-i-n: this is going to be an interesting year for nerd movies, if they all get out the door.

LuckyXIII

07-25-2008, 11:30 AM

I can see Ed Burns as Spike...

TheSnowStorm

07-25-2008, 05:06 PM

Hay guys, this can't possibly go wrong.

Look how well the Dead or Alive movie did!

One of the best, undderatted movie of all time. It deverses a few Adacamey Awards. DOA put Mortal Kombat to shame.

As long as it stays faithful to the original series, I don't give a damn and even if it didn't or ruined the series, I'll be a bit upset but I wouldn't be a butthurt fanboy about it.

BooDidley7

07-25-2008, 05:08 PM

I have absolutely no faith in the Cowboy Bebop movie conversion out of default. Same to all the others.

If all the rumors pan out to be true, 2009 is going to be the year of the nerds in the movies.

Akira, AstroBoy, Star Trek, Castlevania, Cowboy Bebop, Escape from New York, Goonies 2, Prince of Persia, X-men, etc etc.

At least one or two of them should be noteworthy, playing by the sheer number of them.

I think between Iron Man and the Dark Knight, we've definitely been spoiled this year. Both pics had 3 key elements: 1) Directors and scripts committed to faithfully bringing source material to the big screen, while making intelligent and agreeable tweaks where necessary. 2) Apparent full co-operation from studios when it came to appropriate budgeting and production values. 3) Arguably perfect (or close to perfect) casting of actors and performances that did justice to their roles.

Of films projected to come out next year, I highly doubt we'll see this combination in just about all of them. Star Trek probably has the best chance of being worthwhile, but the rest will likely be unnecessary (Escape from NY, Akira, Bebop) or an embarrassment (Castlevania, DBZ, maybe Wolverine, definitely G.I. Joe and TF2).

Malaki-LEGEND.sys

07-25-2008, 05:18 PM

I don't think Cowboy Bebop would need that huge of a budget as compared to Iron Man, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have one period.

The thing about Bebop though is that there really isn't that much continuity in the series save for around 6 episodes or so, so in that regard, they can't really mess up. That being said I'd hope that it wouldn't end up as an hour and a half long episode like Knockin' On Heaven's Door was.

And as for casting Edd and Faye? Well it could always be a prequel about Spike, Vicious, Julia, and their involvement with the Syndicate.

I dunno. I guess I've always thought that movies based off videogames/anime could really work given the proper effort, but so many directors and producers just see it as a way to cash in.

Elex Synn

07-25-2008, 07:50 PM

And as for casting Edd and Faye? Well it could always be a prequel about Spike, Vicious, Julia, and their involvement with the Syndicate.

Personally this is the angle I'd most expect to see.

audio fidelity

07-25-2008, 08:10 PM

Personally this is the angle I'd most expect to see.

naw, the best parts are the bounties with all the humor infused. the syndicate definetely gives the show depth, but hopefully this isn't the case. movies about syndicates are a dime a dozen, but movies about space bounty hunters that listen to great music...now thats dif.

RedTigrr

07-25-2008, 08:21 PM

If they get Yoko and the Seatbelts to do the music for the movie, then that might be a saving grace... but not much.

Lotd2242

07-25-2008, 08:49 PM

Though I know it's going to be a mountain of suck, Dragonball I get. After all, who doesn't want to see a live-action Kamehameha?

But Bebop? There's just no point to it.

Brushfire

07-25-2008, 10:33 PM

I think Bebop could at least be believable enough to see on the big screen.

Strike911

07-26-2008, 02:04 AM

Of all these cartoons/animes being converted to movies Cowboy Bebop has the most potential to be good. Things like DragonBall that are overtly TRYING to be over the top have always been terrible in live-action movies (with a few exceptions). Cowboy Bebop has enough going for it that it could succeed IF AND ONLY IF they keep the style intact and don't start reinterpreting the source material.... everything has to be as close to the show as possible...

...otherwise, fail.

I'll definitely keep my eyes open for further developments.

Wiesty

07-26-2008, 02:23 AM

oh my wow. Arguably the best Anime series ever made, brought back to life, i love it.

Bleck

07-26-2008, 03:02 AM

I will kill every person on the planet before I let this happen

DJMetal

07-26-2008, 05:31 AM

I will kill every person on the planet before I let this happen

I'm with Bleck. I will cry bitter tears of regret, then commit a solid genocide. Seriously, why would they do this? And yes, I know, for money...BUT WHY!?

*Fanboy RAGE*

Airwalker

07-26-2008, 06:32 AM

Live action anime? I hate to be a purist, but I don't see it working. I can only hope that I come back after it comes out and say "Okay, I was closed minded. They can pull this off very well. I underestimated them." But I have a hunch I won't need to say that.

Sam I Am

07-26-2008, 08:44 AM

I-n-j-i-n

07-26-2008, 08:44 AM

I think between Iron Man and the Dark Knight, we've definitely been spoiled this year. Both pics had 3 key elements: 1) Directors and scripts committed to faithfully bringing source material to the big screen, while making intelligent and agreeable tweaks where necessary. 2) Apparent full co-operation from studios when it came to appropriate budgeting and production values. 3) Arguably perfect (or close to perfect) casting of actors and performances that did justice to their roles.

Of films projected to come out next year, I highly doubt we'll see this combination in just about all of them. Star Trek probably has the best chance of being worthwhile, but the rest will likely be unnecessary (Escape from NY, Akira, Bebop) or an embarrassment (Castlevania, DBZ, maybe Wolverine, definitely G.I. Joe and TF2).

I would argue that Iron Man was badly miscast but Robert Downey Jr saved the ENTIRE film singlehandedly. To me, the Dark Knight wasn't cast as well as even some of the older Batman movies (Sorry, but Michael Caine was way too bossy as Alfred. Michael Gough is the best Alfred, period), Bale was alright and the rest were between pretty good to horrendously bad (Maggie gyllenhaal should be shot. One of the worst female romantic interests I've ever seen in any movie). But the thing was that the production and the vision of the creator was really good.

Some of the movies does have pretty high credentials attached like maybe Akira. I mean what the heck is Leonardo DiCaprio doing with the project? If he has a lot of serious respect for the source material, it might be okay. And there's something like Battle Angel (based on Battle Angel Alita) by James Cameron. And with such obscure comic/manga material they're basing off, I think the big-company support is there if they can even plan hard in making them. It's not like with Evangelion or Halo movie where their status is totally in the air, so a lot of them really could see a 2009 release.

I am seriously hoping for a surprise mega-hit like with Transformers (which nobody thought it'd be any good) in GI Joe. They still haven't revealed whether it'd be a serious movie or a campy one. A lot of the projects can go either way, and almost all of them does have some star actors, directors or producers starring in them. I'll leave it up to luck that maybe four or five of the 20 or so geek-films will be good.

Bleck

07-26-2008, 09:37 AM

the rest were between pretty good to horrendously bad

pretty sure heath ledger was nothing short of amazing

I-n-j-i-n

07-26-2008, 10:09 AM

Yes, obviously. I really have no idea how even the returning actors for Lost Boys 2 and Goonies 2 would do. Aren't some of them Oscar-calibur actors now?

Tricklozen

07-26-2008, 12:36 PM

Casting:

Here's Spike :P
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Hugh%20Grant-7.JPG

Anyway. As long as they manage to keep the nonchalant feel of the series, I'll be happy. The rest is about bounty hunters + space + action + comedy + great music (Kanno, or maybe THE THRILL (Blue Submarine No. 6)).

Airwalker

07-26-2008, 03:55 PM

I'm more than a bit baffled as to why they would decide to do this now? I mean, the series ended its run in Japan back in '99. I guess the fairly recent mainstream attention the series has gotten in the US would warrant it, but still...

In the same light, why did they make a Speed Racer movie just now? That series was long over for a while.

The Phalanx

07-26-2008, 04:51 PM

Casting:
Here's Spike :P

Sorry dude, we need to get a time machine and get a young Bob Dylan.

http://www.sonicitchmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bob-dylan-5366.jpg

Tricklozen

07-26-2008, 05:43 PM

Sorry dude, we need to get a time machine and get a young Bob Dylan.

http://www.sonicitchmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bob-dylan-5366.jpg

I couldn't agree more, however, the whole time machine idea killed it for me.

How about slapping an afro on Jon Stewart? No..--Pauly Shore could let his hair grow.--Weird Al is out of the picture for so many reasons.

More plz. Do the work of the casting agency.

Nohbody

07-27-2008, 12:25 AM

ehh, still havent seen this series, searching on veoh or youtube(HATE!) yields only a clusterf*** of annoying amvs and spanish/german/dutch translations.

Buying the series will be shame-inducing but from what Ive seen, its worth it.

Tenucha

07-27-2008, 03:16 AM

as a fan and a Spike cosplayer...
I am intrigued and hopeful.
I did enjoy Speed Racer... it'll be odd to see an American adaptation of Cowboy Bebop... I wonder how the story would play out in the series...

I have absolutely no faith in the Cowboy Bebop movie conversion out of default. Same to all the others.

If all the rumors pan out to be true, 2009 is going to be the year of the nerds in the movies.

Akira, AstroBoy, Star Trek, Castlevania, Cowboy Bebop, Escape from New York, Goonies 2, Prince of Persia, X-men, etc etc.

At least one or two of them should be noteworthy, playing by the sheer number of them.
There's another X-men?! Augh... or are ou refering to the Wolverine spinoff?

Olarin

07-27-2008, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Tricklozen: How about slapping an afro on Jon Stewart? For some reason I initially read this as Patrick Stewart instead of Jon Stewart.

BooDidley7

07-27-2008, 04:08 AM

I would argue that Iron Man was badly miscast but Robert Downey Jr saved the ENTIRE film singlehandedly. To me, the Dark Knight wasn't cast as well as even some of the older Batman movies (Sorry, but Michael Caine was way too bossy as Alfred. Michael Gough is the best Alfred, period), Bale was alright and the rest were between pretty good to horrendously bad (Maggie gyllenhaal should be shot. One of the worst female romantic interests I've ever seen in any movie). But the thing was that the production and the vision of the creator was really good.

Some of the movies does have pretty high credentials attached like maybe Akira. I mean what the heck is Leonardo DiCaprio doing with the project? If he has a lot of serious respect for the source material, it might be okay. And there's something like Battle Angel (based on Battle Angel Alita) by James Cameron. And with such obscure comic/manga material they're basing off, I think the big-company support is there if they can even plan hard in making them. It's not like with Evangelion or Halo movie where their status is totally in the air, so a lot of them really could see a 2009 release.

I am seriously hoping for a surprise mega-hit like with Transformers (which nobody thought it'd be any good) in GI Joe. They still haven't revealed whether it'd be a serious movie or a campy one. A lot of the projects can go either way, and almost all of them does have some star actors, directors or producers starring in them. I'll leave it up to luck that maybe four or five of the 20 or so geek-films will be good.

I really feel the only weak link at all in the Batman cast was Maggie Gylennthal, and that's more because she looks like she's 40-ish. She was a much better presence than Holmes though.

The rest of the cast is pretty dead-on. Caine's Alfred is a different Alfred, more of a father figure. Michael Gough was good in the role he played though. I don't think too many people would argue that Bale isn't the best Wayne/Batman combination on screen to date. Keaton was the best Batman of the earlier films, but I never bought him as Wayne.

For G.I. Joe, I can't help but dread it will be a disaster. Marlon Wayans is in it for crying out loud. The early pics released make it look like a serious flick for sure, and everyone is practically decked out in black Matrix/X-Men 1 outfits. How inspired. Oh yeah, and the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun is Cobra Commander, and it's from the ADHD mind of the director of Van Helsing.

Then again, I really hated the Transformers movie. In a nutshell, I wanted a movie about giant fighting robots, not some kid trying to get laid for 2 hours and made some robot friends along the way. Incidentally, the big battle scene at the end was a fucking mess. You couldn't tell who was fighting who half the time, because of the scatterbrained editing, and we only got an abrupt intro to the majority of the Decepticons, only in vehicle form, like 3 seconds before the fight started.

Also, and how did robots that live in an atmosphereless planet (Cybertron) and travel through space (see Starscream) cease to function in the relative warmth of Antarctica or liquid nitro? /rant

RedTigrr

07-27-2008, 05:00 AM

There's another X-men?! Augh... or are ou refering to the Wolverine spinoff?

Nope, there is talks of a 4th X-Men movie after the Wolverine movie.

LuckyXIII

07-27-2008, 05:13 AM

(Maggie gyllenhaal should be shot. One of the worst female romantic interests I've ever seen in any movie).

I almost cheered when her character got blown up...but I actually felt kinda bad for Batman and Dent.

Dunnowhathuh

07-27-2008, 06:02 AM

I really hope they don't completely and utterly destroy a good name here. Never been a big fan of turning anime into live action movies.

audio fidelity

08-01-2008, 04:55 PM

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/07/30/rumor-keanu-reeves-as-spike-in-cowboy-bebop-movie/

your thoughts please

The Damned

08-01-2008, 05:07 PM

Here's mine:

No. Please, for the love of god, no.

Tricklozen

08-01-2008, 05:27 PM

Keanu Reeves as Spike? hahahaHAHAHA

no. No. NO! Space him.

He's simply wrong for most parts, what with his puny voice and all.
Find a new guy. Don't stick with the default case.

If they can't even think past Keanu Reeves, what hope is there for them to ditch all the other movie clichés?

Anyway. We all need something to loathe.

The Damned

08-01-2008, 05:56 PM

Reeves as Spike is the only reason why this movie will bomb.

People that haven't seen the series, but liked his work in the Matrix will go see it and wonder what the hell is going on. They will go in expecting it to be like his other movies, and get something completely different. Or worse, they will get the Matrix, but in space instead of a program. No thanks.

People that have seen the series and the Matrix will see it for only two reasons: it's Cowboy Bebop, and they want to see how badly it will be butchered.

I'd rather they hire completely new, unknown actors than use the same old obvious stock of big names that won't fit.

sae

08-01-2008, 06:02 PM

Reeves is too stiff to play Spike.

Lotd2242

08-01-2008, 07:32 PM

There goes all hope that this movie won't be a complete and utter suckfest.

Maco70

08-01-2008, 07:36 PM

At least he knows kung-fu.

But seriously, no.

Lotd2242

08-01-2008, 08:00 PM

That would be worth something if it weren't for the fact that Spike uses Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do.

Maco70

08-01-2008, 09:58 PM

That would be worth something if it weren't for the fact that Spike uses Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do.

You totally missed the joke...

Lotd2242

08-01-2008, 10:25 PM

Nah, I got the joke. It was a bad one that could've been a good one if Spike used Kung Fu or some unknown mishmash of fighting styles downloaded into his brain. :-)

audio fidelity

08-02-2008, 12:04 AM

his experience of kung fu training has got to be the only reason they are considering him, cause i don't see the connection between him and spike spiegle at all. spike is like the coolest mofo in the world and keanu can't live up to that.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

on wiki, it says spike was based on Yusaku Matsuda

i can't look at him and think keanu reeves

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w304/b-sidecom/myspace/f7c95974.jpg

here's more

http://www.midnighteye.com/features/yusaku_matsuda.shtml

08-02-2008, 05:37 AM

I have yet to see a live action film based on any anime/comic/video game that has not made me regret the time/money wasted viewing said film(s).I hope they get this movie right but I doubt that will happen.

Thylacine

08-02-2008, 09:54 AM

...Okay, I'm not using that as evidence for a write-off. I mean, Keanu Reeves does look the part rather well. Give him tripped-out hair and the suit, and I think he could reasonably pull it off on the looks alone.

And I can hear his voice synching up with Spike's (dubbed) voice pretty well, too. So that only leaves the actual "acting" part, which is unfortunately the biggest problem people have with Reeves. But considering that Spike is so carefree, I would hope that he would at least look at the source material. That would give the direction he'd need (i.e. away from Shakespeare and stiffness).

Tricklozen

08-02-2008, 11:01 AM

Actually, I recall I enjoyed his part in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwaFkPMdlY

Anyway. Doubt they'd ever dub him for Bebop.

I'd agree with going for some "new" blood for this one, unless someone better comes along.

halc

08-02-2008, 08:36 PM

keanu gets a NO

Strike911

08-03-2008, 07:20 AM

I'd rather they hire completely new, unknown actors than use the same old obvious stock of big names that won't fit.

Agreed, but sadly big names are what sell easiest to a casual moviegoer.

The Damned

08-03-2008, 03:01 PM

I don't think this is something your casual moviegoer would go watch.

Then again, they got a huge turnout for that shitfest Spped Racer, and the bigger shitfest Dragon Ball will get even more.

I really just wish studios would stop raping everything they can for movie ideas.

Brushfire

08-03-2008, 03:58 PM

I really just wish studios would stop raping everything they can for movie ideas.

Case in point: Bill and Ted 3: The Search for More Money.

Nohbody

08-03-2008, 05:44 PM

I Lve Movieez

Toadofsky

08-03-2008, 07:08 PM

Triad Orion

08-03-2008, 07:40 PM

For me, Cowboy Bebop had the worst ending I've seen in an anime. But then again, I've watched very few animes. They just never really appealed to me that much. I loved the music on Bebop though, very well done. I have a few of the tracks from the albums...

Not to be snide, but you really haven't seen a lot of anime if Bebop had the worst ending you've seen. To be quite honest, I found the ending to be very fitting to the tone of the series and it's led into quite well. Yes, it does leave unanswered questions, but nothing about Bebop really breathed "happy ending." Though I do fully, and wholeheartedly agree with you about the music.

Though a live-action movie? No. Just. No. Never. No. Don't. No. Some things are best left to animation, and this is one of them.

Maco70

08-04-2008, 06:18 PM

For me, Cowboy Bebop had the worst ending I've seen in an anime. But then again, I've watched very few animes. They just never really appealed to me that much. I loved the music on Bebop though, very well done. I have a few of the tracks from the albums...

Yeah, I thought the ending was very good, and fit the series well.

The more I think about it, the more I am curious to how Reeves could do as spike. He'd have to NAIL it, which would counteract all his previous acting skills...

XFactor

08-04-2008, 07:28 PM

Then again, they got a huge turnout for that shitfest Spped Racer

Firstly, if you're going to insult a movie do it properly, the title is Speed Racer, not "Spped." Secondly, there wasn't a huge turnout for Speed Racer, it was a box office flop that lost truckloads of cash.

And thirdly, Speed Racer was a fucking brilliant film, ffs. Seriously. What would you expect from a film based on a 40-year old anime series famous for being butchered in the dub? Batman Begins? It does what it does perfectly- provide intentionally cheesy, immensely spectacular fun that dazzles the mind and imagination. The colors, people, the colors. It was like eating sugar with your eyes, and even moreso brilliant in IMAX.

On that same note, I absolutely detest the reaction that the internet has had towards this film-hell, towards film adaptations like this in general.

The film is being made by the guy who did A Scanner Darkly, you guys. If you remember, that film was good.

If he approaches Cowboy Bebop in a similar fashion as was done Speed Racer, but with the style of A Scanner Darkly, this could well be one of the best adaptations from animation to live action yet made.

As for the music, I would fucking love to see the motifs of the series be adapted into an orchestral/jazz hybrid, with a little bit of an electronic beat thrown in there for good measure.

I'm not ignoring the possibility that the film could be royally screwed up, I'm just saying that y'all need to get your heads out of the sand and stop being so overly critical of something you have nearly no information about. It's arrogant and presumptuous of you. And seriously, learn to enjoy yourselves once in a while at the movies! Films like Speed Racer are golden because they provide a reprieve from more serious and intellectual fare, which I enjoy just as much.

If there wasn't an Azumanga Daioh and Haruhi Suzumiya for every Serial Experiments Lain and Death Note then I'd fear my face would explode.

audio fidelity

08-04-2008, 08:00 PM

i missed the scanner darkly connection, but this guy was also responsible for constantine...sooo...we'll just have to see. this makes more interested in what can come, but even that connection is a bit of a stretch to say that they can do bebop well. now if it was the wachowski brothers, i would feel like i was in good hands. we'll have to wait to see who the director is.

but still a real life faye valentine sounds nice...found this

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/faye-valentine-costume-vert.jpg

The Damned

08-04-2008, 09:12 PM

Firstly, if you're going to insult a movie do it properly, the title is Speed Racer, not "Spped." Secondly, there wasn't a huge turnout for Speed Racer, it was a box office flop that lost truckloads of cash.
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I don't see what the directors prior movie has to do with this one. In case you didn't know, people can make both good and bad things. Saying that because he made one movie that was good (in your opinion, I might add) does not mean that this one will also be as good or better. He may very well fuck this one up right good. Or he may do a decent job. Or maybe he won't do this movie at all, having decided to quit part-way through. That would ruin your prediction, wouldn't it?

Don't use past efforts as a template for future attempts. It's a terrible fallacy.

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BooDidley7

08-04-2008, 09:18 PM

I'm not ignoring the possibility that the film could be royally screwed up, I'm just saying that y'all need to get your heads out of the sand and stop being so overly critical of something you have nearly no information about. It's arrogant and presumptuous of you. And seriously, learn to enjoy yourselves once in a while at the movies! Films like Speed Racer are golden because they provide a reprieve from more serious and intellectual fare, which I enjoy just as much.

I didn't see Speed Racer, so I'll keep that discussion aside.

Calling us "overly critical of something you have nearly no information about" is ignoring the fact that better than 90% of the time, Hollywood adaptations of anime, comic books, videogames, etc.-- pretty much anything but books, ends up being a total waste of time, an embarrassment to the fans, and a denigration to the original property.

Is it cynical? Perhaps, but it's based on a sadly predictable track record, and formulas most film makers never seem wiling to stray from, so we end up with the same old tired collection of cliches, climaxes, and conclusions, with our property sewed on top.

For every Dark Knight or Iron Man, we get 50 Elektras, Catwomans, and Batman & Robins. It's even worse for videogame movies. MK and maybe Silent Hill, and the rest is total crap, with no sign of improving unless, say Sony got serious about making MGS.

Bebop is so unique unto its mold, that even the movie (Knocking of Heaven's Door) fell short of replicating what made the show great. Should we really expect a Hollywood flick with Keanu Reeves (to be fair, still a rumor) as the star, to really hit on the unique mix of themes and spirit that made the show great, with nothing to suggest otherwise? Or should we just line up at the box office now to give movie studios no motivation to change how they make crappy films?

audio fidelity

08-04-2008, 10:23 PM

Should we really expect a Hollywood flick with Keanu Reeves (to be fair, still a rumor) as the star, to really hit on the unique mix of themes and spirit that made the show great, with nothing to suggest otherwise? Or should we just line up at the box office now to give movie studios no motivation to change how they make crappy films?

i'm not gonna expect much from hollywood until WETA gets going on Neon Genesis Evangelion and sets the bar.

also, just curious, where did you feel that the bebop anime film lacked? its probably my favorate movie from an anime series...there are too many bad ones to count, heh. i admit it was departure than the original feel of the show, i enjoyed it thoroughly. i remeber it even playing in movie theaters...which is definetely a step forward for anime.

but your right about the bar being high for bebop, and if hollywood, who has yet to put any successful adaptations of anime out, screws this up, they are going to alienate a lot of fans and probably going to give up on further adaptations. ie. Evangelion. it'll be interesting to see what becomes of this.

Lotd2242

08-05-2008, 01:13 AM

But does she still sit pretty with a pistol in hand, living to love you? Will you be her man?

Why not? Anything goes in this cosmic dare.

XFactor

08-05-2008, 01:20 AM

I know that the track record isn't promising, I'm just saying that until we see anything substantial either way we can't definitely say it's going to totally suck, or for that matter be the best film either. I'm just optimistic, which is apparently unheard of on the internet. =P

Maco70

08-05-2008, 07:48 AM

Firstly, if you're going to insult a movie do it properly, the title is Speed Racer, not "Spped." Secondly, there wasn't a huge turnout for Speed Racer, it was a box office flop that lost truckloads of cash.

And thirdly, Speed Racer was a fucking brilliant film, ffs. Seriously. What would you expect from a film based on a 40-year old anime series famous for being butchered in the dub? Batman Begins? It does what it does perfectly- provide intentionally cheesy, immensely spectacular fun that dazzles the mind and imagination. The colors, people, the colors. It was like eating sugar with your eyes, and even moreso brilliant in IMAX.

On that same note, I absolutely detest the reaction that the internet has had towards this film-hell, towards film adaptations like this in general.

The film is being made by the guy who did A Scanner Darkly, you guys. If you remember, that film was good.

If he approaches Cowboy Bebop in a similar fashion as was done Speed Racer, but with the style of A Scanner Darkly, this could well be one of the best adaptations from animation to live action yet made.

As for the music, I would fucking love to see the motifs of the series be adapted into an orchestral/jazz hybrid, with a little bit of an electronic beat thrown in there for good measure.

I'm not ignoring the possibility that the film could be royally screwed up, I'm just saying that y'all need to get your heads out of the sand and stop being so overly critical of something you have nearly no information about. It's arrogant and presumptuous of you. And seriously, learn to enjoy yourselves once in a while at the movies! Films like Speed Racer are golden because they provide a reprieve from more serious and intellectual fare, which I enjoy just as much.

If there wasn't an Azumanga Daioh and Haruhi Suzumiya for every Serial Experiments Lain and Death Note then I'd fear my face would explode.

The internet is serious business.