RECRUITMENT: Male singers!

[OA]

http://oceansend.com/5502/ocr/achoooo.jpg

Join the Fabul Men's Choir!

I am looking for a group of singing badasses to help out with a choir part on an upcoming mix. If you are interested in lending your amazing skills, please PM me or respond in here.
It's a group choir sound, and the part is really easy. :-D

[atmuh]

i could if i had some mic or smth but i was planning on buying one so maybe!

[Hawkwing]

If you need someone to sing off key, I'm your man!

[Katsurugi]

Alas, I am without equipment or else I would be very much available to participate. I do sound pretty awesome in the shower. Just kidding. I hardly sing in there. However, I have a bunch of choir experience. >_<

[relyanCe]

I have a mic I use for voice recording that may work, but i'll have to test the quality. If it works, count me in!

[IsolinearMoogle]

I would love to help out with this! I'm pretty sure my sound equipment is up to the task, and I know my voice is.

[djpretzel]

http://www.ocremix.org/remixing/skill/vocals-male/ (http://www.ocremix.org/remixing/skill/vocals-male/)

Just a friendly reminder that this exists :)

[OA]

and a friendly thank you for the reminder; totally slipped my mind. :-)

[Bahamut]

http://www.ocremix.org/remixing/skill/vocals-male/ (http://www.ocremix.org/remixing/skill/vocals-male/)

Just a friendly reminder that this exists :)

Wow, I didn't even know about it!

[BardicKnowledge]

I'm without equipment until August (the school's stuff opens up to me then). If you need a tenor really badly, I'll try to get something better than my headset up and running at home for you -- lemme know!

[The Pezman]

I'm in that database, and I am interested...

is this for the FFIV project?

And what kind of mic would I need?

[Hemophiliac]

i am your man, i have both recording and choir singing experience.

i'm a lower end baritone.

[dPaladin]

I don't have anything but Audacity and a crappy microphone until school starts back up (also I haven't been practicing much this summer unless Rock Band counts, which it doesn't), but I'm a quasi-bass baritone, good for a couple ledger lines on either end of the bass clef.

[Gollgagh]

i am your man, i have both recording and choir singing experience.

i'm a lower end baritone.

I'm also a lower end baritone with plenty of choir experience.

I kinda need a pre-amp for my brother's mic, though >.>

[Sinewav]

I'd be very interested, though all I have is Audacity and a Shure SM57 plugged in through my laptop's mic jack. I have a little bit of choir experience. I can do either tenor or baritone.

How are you going to get everyone timbre to match over the internet? Singing in a choir is different than singing solo, as I'm sure you already know.

[OA]

thanks for the interest everyone; yes it is for the FF4 project.
Sound quality doesn't have to be beautifully pristine, as it is going to be a large number of singers. I can effectively clean individual tracks in a way that wouldn't be possible for solo parts.

I'll be sending out lyrics and guide tracks later tonight, so be sure to keep an eye on your PM boxes.

[DrumUltimA]

I Want To Sing

[atmuh]

rofl doug got caps owned

[Chickenwarlord]

No sheet musix? But yeah... I think I can do this. (you don't need anything lower than an e flat right or higher than a G above middle C, right?)

[LuckyXIII]

I want to sing...and dance.

But I'll sing for the mix. I have a mic and decent recording software.

[OmegaDonut]

I too want to sing and dance, but I'll settle for just singing.

[Hemophiliac]

I'd be very interested, though all I have is Audacity and a Shure SM57 plugged in through my laptop's mic jack. I have a little bit of choir experience. I can do either tenor or baritone.

How are you going to get everyone timbre to match over the internet? Singing in a choir is different than singing solo, as I'm sure you already know.

well, it's more a question of vowels...rounding out the vowels will help create a more uniform blend. the other thing would be to have less vibrato and more straight tone. certain consonants will also have to be indicated when they're cut off and etc...i could probably create something to help with this depending on what's needed in terms of "lyrics". OA, hit me up, i do have experience in choral writing and can help weed out any problems that may arise.

[Gollgagh]

well, it's more a question of vowels...rounding out the vowels will help create a more uniform blend. the other thing would be to have less vibrato and more straight tone. certain consonants will also have to be indicated when they're cut off and etc...i could probably create something to help with this depending on what's needed in terms of "lyrics". OA, hit me up, i do have experience in choral writing and can help weed out any problems that may arise.

listen to this man

he knows what he is talking about

[dPaladin]

Oh great, I hadn't really thought of this. I've got absolutely no experience recording vocals when the singers aren't all together (actually, I've got no experience recording anyone but myself, but anyway). Should we stress consonants the "normal" way to do it in a choral setting, or what?

For those of you who don't know, it's typical to "overact" a little on consonants because of the timbre of a choir's sound and the tendency of things to get muddled really easily by other voices and by the local reverb. We're not going to be singing in a hall and we're probably going to be equalized anyway, but what exactly does that change in terms of stress?

And I guess we won't know until we see the music (which, if I'm guessing the track right, is a bunch of ahs anyway), but Latin vowels?

EDIT: First questions directed at Hemo; last one directed at OA.

[Hausdog]

I think I've got a really nice voice, so count me in!

[Hemophiliac]

Oh great, I hadn't really thought of this. I've got absolutely no experience recording vocals when the singers aren't all together (actually, I've got no experience recording anyone but myself, but anyway). Should we stress consonants the "normal" way to do it in a choral setting, or what?

For those of you who don't know, it's typical to "overact" a little on consonants because of the timbre of a choir's sound and the tendency of things to get muddled really easily by other voices and by the local reverb. We're not going to be singing in a hall and we're probably going to be equalized anyway, but what exactly does that change in terms of stress?

And I guess we won't know until we see the music (which, if I'm guessing the track right, is a bunch of ahs anyway), but Latin vowels?

EDIT: First questions directed at Hemo; last one directed at OA.

i just listened to the track, it sounds like latin to me...which means vowels are to be very round. because consonants create plosives, sibilants and other recording problems we probably will not be over-emphasizing the consonants. however; we will still need to be precise as to where the vowels cut off and end. same goes for breath marks.

[DragonAvenger]

I resisted doing the typical wrong sex joke. But I still had to post. Good luck OA, hope you get all the guys you need.

[OA]

Good luck OA, hope you get all the guys you need.

Thanks, you too.







>_>

[Bahamut]

I could sing if you really want (I used to sing some choir music) - I won't be able to record until 1 1/2 - 2 weeks later though. I'm a baritone with my range slightly shifted towards the higher end.

[Brushfire]

I can do a mean Johnny Cash, If you want.

[Wiesty]

I think I've got a really nice voice, so count me in!

Ha, well from my experience, most choir singers are usually not amazing solo singers. Thats why they put them in a group, you know, the whole, 2 things are better than one thing.

[DrumUltimA]

i'm better than pixietricks

AT BEING A DUDE

[Bleck]

I will do this

[Hausdog]

Ha, well from my experience, most choir singers are usually not amazing solo singers. Thats why they put them in a group, you know, the whole, 2 things are better than one thing.
Well, our church choir is a bunch of people who don't sing all that well mixed with some pop idol wannabes and this one guy who is convinced he has the best voice ever even though it's all nasally and crap but tons of other people like it so what do I know. So... I'm not really a "choir singer," but my voice has a pretty natural tone (as in its natural tone is pretty) so I can sound good as pat of a group too.

[Kulaman]

I would also be willing to lend my voice to the awesome.

[SwordBreaker]

I'm interested in lending a hand. Provide me the detail as soon as you can, OA. :)

[OA]

PMs are sent!

Consider the parts i sent out to be a test run to see if I can even handle this; there will most likely be a good deal more of arrangement to go over.

Thanks everyone for the support, this is going to kick ass.

[Sinewav]

Well, our church choir is a bunch of people who don't sing all that well mixed with some pop idol wannabes and this one guy who is convinced he has the best voice ever even though it's all nasally and crap but tons of other people like it so what do I know. So... I'm not really a "choir singer," but my voice has a pretty natural tone (as in its natural tone is pretty) so I can sound good as pat of a group too.

That sounds like just about every choir I've been in.

[Chavous]

You can send me a PM too, if you need any more help.

[Souldier]

I just found this. Darn, I certainly wouldn't mind lending a hand, I just don't currently have a way of recording my voice.

[Hemophiliac]

sheet music and pronounciation guide coming soon, with OA's approval.

[SwordBreaker]

I'm done with my recordings. Anyone know where should I send the files to?

[Nohbody]

Okay, I love choirs, but anything but real people actually singing just doesn't do it for me. Im pretty sure that all of the mixes on this site have either a vocal soloist or a synthetic choir. Im no remixer, not yet, but would it be possible for someone to write a choir peice and then distribute the individual parts to anyone who can sing and is willing, and then put it all into one song? Or would there be too many technical roadblocks along the way? Or has someone already done something similar? Im a long way from having the expertise for doing something like this, but I'm just curious.

And if this wouldn't work, would it be feasible for one person to record theirself many times over and put it all together? Because that would be awesome.

EDIT: Holy shit. Someone else IS (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17436) doing this. How the hell didnt I see this before? Uhh, mod, feel free to close if you want...what a fail of a thread.

[Jabberbox]

heh, I'd be happy to help when you get around to it.

[Kulaman]

Sorry, but it may be a while before I can get my recording done. I've come down with something and it's really screwed my voice up.

I'll try to get something in by next weekend.

[Brycepops]

Okay, I love choirs, but anything but real people actually singing just doesn't do it for me. Im pretty sure that all of the mixes on this site have either a vocal soloist or a synthetic choir. Im no remixer, not yet, but would it be possible for someone to write a choir peice and then distribute the individual parts to anyone who can sing and is willing, and then put it all into one song? Or would there be too many technical roadblocks along the way? Or has someone already done something similar? Im a long way from having the expertise for doing something like this, but I'm just curious.

And if this wouldn't work, would it be feasible for one person to record theirself many times over and put it all together? Because that would be awesome.

EDIT: Holy shit. Someone else IS (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17436) doing this. How the hell didnt I see this before? Uhh, mod, feel free to close if you want...what a fail of a thread.

...what the hell? You just linked to this very thread... :?

[Olarin]

Ah, sorry I forgot to post sooner, but I've got plenty of singing experience and would enjoy contributing to this, if you're still collecting parts.

[MaxFrost]

I can sing as well, got a mic and everything :D

tenor

[SwordBreaker]

You're getting a lot of support on this track, OA. Can't wait to listen to the final product. :)

[Bahamut]

...what the hell? You just linked to this very thread... :?

I guess a mod merged a thread.

[BardicKnowledge]

OA, I've sent you a PM with the link to my shoddy voice recordings. :-P Good luck finishing the track!

[OA]

I've sent out additional PMs to people with info!

Hemophiliac has put together this very useful style guide; check it out yo!

http://ff4.oceansend.com/uploads/Fabul%20Choir.pdf

http://ff4.oceansend.com/uploads/Fabul%20Pronounciation.mp3



Thanks to everyone that has sent stuff in so far. :-D

[relyanCe]

Quick question before I record: Are we holding out the last note all those 4 measures?

[OA]

No; sorry, Hemo and I changed that and the sheet music hasn't been adjusted to reflect that.

End it at the same spot as the guide mp3 please. :-)

[Gollgagh]

hmm

All of my latin teachers had me pronounce "que" as "kway" not "kay". This is Latin, not Spanish, afterall.

but you know, whatever

[relyanCe]

Well, I pulled out my mic today, and I think something very bad happened to it, because it records worse than those kids karaoke toys from the early 90s... I used to record guitar with it, but this thing is absolutely worthless now. Unless I can get my hands on a decent mic, count me out... :puppyeyes:

[Hemophiliac]

hmm

All of my latin teachers had me pronounce "que" as "kway" not "kay". This is Latin, not Spanish, afterall.

but you know, whatever

hahaha, that's absolutely right, i don't know what i was thinking. it is kway and not que.

cah-dah-moos-kway

my bad.

[Escariot]

My mic is still sexy as hell... I'll take a look at some of the stuff at some point later in the week when the dogs, toddlers, and adults quiet down. =D

[SwordBreaker]

I've sent out additional PMs to people with info!

Hemophiliac has put together this very useful style guide; check it out yo!

http://ff4.oceansend.com/uploads/Fabul%20Choir.pdf

http://ff4.oceansend.com/uploads/Fabul%20Pronounciation.mp3



Thanks to everyone that has sent stuff in so far. :-D

Very useful. Thanks, Hemophiliac. I think I mispronounced the last word there. I also like to add one additional tip. For those who can, your pronunciation of the letter "r" has to be rolled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A657272

[dPaladin]

Yeah, but go easy on the rolled R's in Latin. It's more of a flip than a full Spanish-style roll.

[Hemophiliac]

yeah we want to avoid overdoing many of the syllables because it can create recording issues ie plosives, sibilants, etc.

that's why the soft t and l sounds at the end of the holds.

[The Pezman]

<--- Didn't get a PM


OA doesn't love me... :cry:

[The Pezman]

<--- Didn't get a PM


OA doesn't love me... ;(

[Escariot]

We h8 because you double-post... And because you touch yourself at night

[BardicKnowledge]

Question about the guide .pdf:

At the end of verse two, we have four syllables in three notes: the tuna in for-tu-na is only given one note, not two. Since it's a half note, should we treat it as two quarters? Which word and where do you want us to make up the extra syllable?

[IsolinearMoogle]

At the end of verse two, we have four syllables in three notes: the tuna in for-tu-na is only given one note, not two. Since it's a half note, should we treat it as two quarters? Which word and where do you want us to make up the extra syllable?

Good question, although in OA's original recording, the "tu" receives the half note; "na" and "iu" both receive quarter notes.

Can I get a clarification on the diction for "iuvat"? Both recordings I've heard now have different pronunciations, neither of which actually meshes with my understanding of correct Latin diction, which would make the word sound like either "yoo vot" or "yoo wot".

[dPaladin]

yoo vot

Actually, ee oo vot, but I think it'll end up sounding like the first one anyway.

Latin is supposed to use the W sound for V's, but sung Latin doesn't do this because (I think this is the reason anyway) the pronunciations are based off of Medieval Latin and Italian, not Augustan Latin.

(And I promise I'll get around to recording it. I've got two weeks until school starts and I have to find a time when I can record without disturbing my family and without them disturbing me.)

[BardicKnowledge]

Good question, although in OA's original recording, the "tu" receives the half note; "na" and "iu" both receive quarter notes.

Can I get a clarification on the diction for "iuvat"? Both recordings I've heard now have different pronunciations, neither of which actually meshes with my understanding of correct Latin diction, which would make the word sound like either "yoo vot" or "yoo wot".

Thanks -- now that there seems to be a consensus, I'll record this afternoon!



(And I promise I'll get around to recording it. I've got two weeks until school starts and I have to find a time when I can record without disturbing my family and without them disturbing me.)

Just tell your family you need 20 minutes of quiet to record something for a CD; they ought to be impressed enough to give you the space you need. :)

EDIT: My re-record is now uploaded -- hooray!

[IsolinearMoogle]

Actually, ee oo vot, but I think it'll end up sounding like the first one anyway.

Latin is supposed to use the W sound for V's, but sung Latin doesn't do this because (I think this is the reason anyway) the pronunciations are based off of Medieval Latin and Italian, not Augustan Latin.

(And I promise I'll get around to recording it. I've got two weeks until school starts and I have to find a time when I can record without disturbing my family and without them disturbing me.)

Although the "ee oo" in Latin does often get condensed into a "yoo" for singing, in the case of the word "iuvat," the "i" is actually consonantal. The word is sometimes also spelled "juvat."

Good point about the "w" vs. "v" issue, too. This doesn't only crop up in singing, but it is, as you indicated, because there are different schools of thought on this particular consonant.

All that being said, as OA originally pointed out, it doesn't matter so much that we're being purists as long as we're all using the same diction. So, what's the concensus? My vote's on "yoo vot".

Good luck finding your peace and quiet, dPaladin!

[maniacodepressif]

This looks interesting, I hope we can listen to this some day!
Well I'm a singer, but more rock/pop/hip hop...so I'm a selfish dude that just wants to sing louder then the rest ;p

[Salluz]

Check my sig; it's actually a link. I can send a few waves of better singing.

[OA]

I've started to recieve some wavs and it is sounding awesome in the track itself;
For those interested, I am adding a few other parts throughout the song; ooohhhs and aahhh and one part for the chorus with lyrics.
Basically what i'll do is when those parts are ready, i'll PM those who have already sent me something, as I assume they'd be the ones interested.

[OA]

Ok, i've recieved a ton of stuff and the track is sounding great. I just have one more section to finish up, but I don't want to spam people. If you are interested in recording this last part, PM me and i'll get the parts to you. :-D

[Bahamut]

Oh man, I forgot about this...I've been pretty busy :-( . I'll whip something up next week if I'm not sick then.

[Zidane]

I would love to help out! If you have any need of a tenor/bass baritone, send me a pm.

I necro-posted, but I wasn't sure if this person still needed assist.

[prophetik]

the song's been done for a while, last time i heard anything.

[LuketheXjesse]

The preview of it sounded really freakin' sweet, too.

[prophetik]

all malcos, man. that dude's got some pipes.

[Nekofrog]

So uh, not to jack the thread or anything, but since this is the exact same topic I figured I'd avoid making a new thread

I need one (1) male singer to provide vocals for a song on my album. I can provide details to any interested parties. Needs to be a rock type singing voice.

[Zidane]

Sure, Nekofrog, just pm me the details. Thanks!