View Full Version : Fat Princess = Fat Controversy?
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Linkage. (http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/feminists-cry-foul-over-fat-princess/1232315)
Over at Shakesville, however, writer Melissa McEwan cuts to the chase, telling Sony she's "positively thrilled to see such unyielding dedication to creating a new generation of fat-hating, heteronormative ---holes."
I dunno about this girl, but I was always under the impression that fat was a bad thing in general.
This issue's probably been beaten down on many an occasion, but I just wanted to know what you all thought of this.
Archaon
07-29-2008, 01:34 PM
They're right, though.
They should just keep the princess thin, thereby maintaining the status quo that fat people are worthless in games as anything aside from comic relief, and promoting the idea that if a princess were fat, she obviously wouldn't be worth the trouble of rescuing.
Schwaltzvald
07-29-2008, 01:37 PM
I just read the article on what exactly is the game about and I still don't understand it... The fatter she gets the harder she is to be captured...
lol wut?
Ridiculously overblown which only serves to work against these "feminists" which pretty much sums up how important their outcries are when it comes to games of all things...
How about the problem of the burgeoning numbers of single mothers in American huh..? Why aren't they making an outcry on that problem... maybe for ppr...?
DrumUltimA
07-29-2008, 01:37 PM
hot.
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Kulaman
07-29-2008, 02:59 PM
Does it make it better or worse that the concept artist (who designed the look, characters, everything) is a girl?
roflpwnd :tomatoface:
Azure Prower
07-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Really getting old... Firstly it's because it's not about sexism. The issue is about being fat.
I think the real bad guys (or girls I should say) are the imbeciles attempting to persaude every one that being fat is okay. It's not. It's unhealthy and some thing you must work at. Myself, I eat health (no sodas/soft drinks especially) and exercise reasonably well to keep my thin build.
"I choose to be lazy or I am a depressed emo" is a poor excuse to claim discrimation against any thing negative towards fat people in general.
Fatter people have generally shorter life spans and it's their own damn fault.
/end rant
Ninja-san
07-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Dude this is AWESOME! I have more of an issue with most video games making the female lead some Barbie like figure with low amounts of clothing and a hair style that would be horrible to fight in. I'm totally loving this idea and feminist can shove it their bum holes for not realizing something like this or at least thinking this could be way. If you don't like a game don't buy it.
I'm a girl and I'm fat and I'm totally gonna buy this cause its a princess in a blue dress thats bigger than the moon.
Dude I can cosplay someone now.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Obviously feminists don't want to see any sort of female in any game ever, because their fragile egos can't handle it. This somehow reminds me of the escapades involving the alleged racism in Resident Evil 5.
Developers won't give this kind of thing more than a passing glance, which I think is a good thing, but just reading about this kind of thing is a testament to the ignorance of the masses, which I find upsetting.
DrumUltimA
07-29-2008, 04:09 PM
Really getting old... Firstly it's because it's not about sexism. The issue is about being fat.
I think the real bad guys (or girls I should say) are the imbeciles attempting to persaude every one that being fat is okay. It's not. It's unhealthy and some thing you must work at. Myself, I eat health (no sodas/soft drinks especially) and exercise reasonably well to keep my thin build.
"I choose to be lazy or I am a depressed emo" is a poor excuse to claim discrimation against any thing negative towards fat people in general.
Fatter people have generally shorter life spans and it's their own damn fault.
/end rant
being fat is fine, being unhealthy is something else entirely.
also fat girls are a million times hotter than skinny girls so there
Salluz
07-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Linkage. (http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/feminists-cry-foul-over-fat-princess/1232315)
I dunno about this girl, but I was always under the impression that fat was a bad thing in general.
This issue's probably been beaten down on many an occasion, but I just wanted to know what you all thought of this.
Pfft, just looks like a horrible attempt to humor. You know, there are two kinds of 'fat': being big and being horribly big. I wouldn't get too roused over this crap. However, for definition, the girl isn't normally big; she's disgustingly overweight. No girl that huge would feel comfortable walking around; she would feel the pressure on her heels.
Yah, stupid game... that's all it looks like, so I'll pass.
Gollgagh
07-29-2008, 05:26 PM
I recently observed someone making a resentful remark.
As for the feminists, so what?
They complain about everything.
The Pezman
07-29-2008, 05:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmuXWCFQzE&feature=related
Schwaltzvald
07-29-2008, 05:42 PM
I recently observed someone making a resentful remark.
Resently thought about trolling but then I thought back and felt the person who'd take the bait would recent my actions and may make an inane post. Regardless I get a laugh :lol:
What I'd really like to see is how far they would go to complain. There are tons of stereotypes in games if one chose to look real hard for them; one would even be able to find some that don't even exist because of the desire to complain and get attention. :lol:
in other words just the word "feminists" says it all. :lol:
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-29-2008, 05:43 PM
God I so hope that would be the theme song.
Schwaltzvald
07-29-2008, 05:47 PM
trolling is for idiots
Hey pot I'm kettle~!
Love ya :lol:
Also I agree with Makai. Too good to pass up :lol:
Blake
07-29-2008, 06:02 PM
That makes me really sad. : (
Reminds me of part of my favorite George Carlin bit(RIP):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M5Xm5RYTRY
Shadow Wolf
07-29-2008, 06:02 PM
Stepping above all of the cultural dialogue for a moment, am I the only one who finds the concept of this game hilarious? Stuff your royalty with twinkies so they can't haul her back to home base? It's amazing.
megadave
07-29-2008, 06:18 PM
The truth is, we live in a stupid society of politically correct pussies who are offended by everything. "Don't use this word. Don't say this. Don't make fun of fat people." Well, fuck you too.
Yeah, there are some things worth getting worked up over, and then...there's this. It's entertainment, people, not propaganda. If anything, it has a positive message: IF YOU EAT HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OF CAKE IN THE SPACE OF LESS THAN 10 MINUTES YOU WILL GET FAT.
megadave
07-29-2008, 06:45 PM
True. I'm now going to attempt to make a less angry post. I'm just disturbed at how backwards we've become. Sensitivity is important. I have fat friends. Some of them are simply fat. They're aware of it. I don't insult them about their weight, but when they gripe about it, I tell them to go exercise.
That's what I do. I was up to 213 pounds and my face was getting chubby. Now I'm down to 195. I still eat tons of fattening foods and I still won't lay off of the beer. It's still hard to keep my stomach down because of that, but I'm doing it. I'm not saying that it's that easy for all people. Some people just tend to be fat, but a little exercise can go a long way. If you have 5 hours to watch TV (and you probably do), then you have time to exercise for one hour.
Run, get on the treadmill, have sex, do situps, take the stairs - It's that simple. If you cut down on bad food and you exercise often, and you're still fat, then feel free to call me a jerk. I know people that do this and still have trouble with their weight, but they are still smaller and healthier after they do it.
It is not my belief that all people are meant to be small, and I like diversity in size (yes, I like jolly fat people who are also active, but there are too many fat people). If anything, Fat Princess is just giving people more of what they hate - the truth.
Bigfoot
07-29-2008, 06:58 PM
And for people that love watching TV, most gyms have TVs in their exercise rooms! :P
the game looks super fun to play. I love multiplayer games, and this looks pretty great. :-)
Diseased Project
07-29-2008, 07:15 PM
Who the hell would want to save a fatty princess :P
atmuh
07-29-2008, 07:20 PM
Who the hell would want to save a fatty princess :P
i would
also rofl
The Coop
07-29-2008, 07:20 PM
The truth is, we live in a stupid society of politically correct pussies who are offended by everything. "Don't use this word. Don't say this. Don't make fun of fat people." Well, fuck you too.
We also live in a society where a woman is fat if she's five pounds overweight. For Christ's sake, Ivy from the Soul Calibur series is considered fat by a good number of people.
HoboKa
07-29-2008, 07:27 PM
We also live in a society where a woman is fat if she's five pounds overweight. For Christ's sake, Ivy from the Soul Calibur series is considered fat by a good number of people.
I like Ivy's ass T_T, screw those jerks lol.
Schwaltzvald
07-29-2008, 07:27 PM
For Christ's sake, Ivy from the Soul Calibur series is considered fat by a good number of people.
We're surrounded by eunuchs and trashy twigs! D:
Tenucha
07-29-2008, 07:32 PM
haha!
The game sounds really funny... It sounds like its built around the very thing that's getting it all this negative backlash.
Princess have always been hot and skinny and constantly captured and abducted.
Now it's "Capture the Flag" but instead of a Flag it's a princess you gotta pork up thus making it harder for the other team to get to her?
Brilliant!
Would I ever play it?
Prolly no...
tgfoo
07-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Some people just like complaining about things. I think it's a cool concept.
maniacodepressif
07-29-2008, 08:06 PM
Damn feminists! They always make women look bad!
Most of them are probably under-sexed lol
I think the idea is pretty good, it's never been done before and it's a reality, when you eat too much you get fat. Yeah there's a big misconception of what a fat girl is in the media and in the minds of a lot of people out there. I personally rather seeing a chubby chick then her rib cage in the back, but OMG what might others think if I'm with a chubby girl!!
At least, I bet they get more sex then feminist! ;p
Darklink42
07-29-2008, 08:22 PM
The feminists you hear from these days are such whiney, obsolete bitches. First it's that women in videogames aren't representational of the average woman. Now they are insensitive to fat chicks. They're like the kid at the mall who can get one toy and picks three, then cries about it when they can't get all three. The hell with them. It's a step in the right direction for a game to say that porking up to that size is ridiculous. Screw being insensitive, because people that huge are just ridiculous. And other than the 5% of them that have some kind of health condition, the rest have no excuse. And I'm not talking about people that have a belly, or are a little above the average. No, I'm talking about when you get to the point that rolling down the street has become a viable mode of transportation. I don't care what the P.C.'s say either, let them be made fun of. Everyone has equal time in the ring of getting dissed on. I agree with Carlin, they should harden up, get off their ass, throw out the twinkies, and get on a treadmill.
Controversy nothing. The only controversy is the one these feminists make because they can't survive without something to make a fuss about. And frankly, it kind of looks fun. I wouldn't buy it, but then it's not my style of game. I'd play it though.
Schwaltzvald
07-29-2008, 08:26 PM
Question...
When she's all packed in, does she lose weight gradually like a deflating balloon or does she stay the same throughout the round..?
EdgeCrusher
07-29-2008, 08:46 PM
We also live in a society where a woman is fat if she's five pounds overweight. For Christ's sake, Ivy from the Soul Calibur series is considered fat by a good number of people.
Id hit it. Twice.
Geoffrey Taucer
07-29-2008, 08:49 PM
I might just have to buy this game.
Diseased Project
07-29-2008, 09:27 PM
I googled Ivy from Soul calibur, and she certainly is fat, although all her fat has gathered into her boobs.
Bigfoot
07-29-2008, 09:28 PM
Question...
When she's all packed in, does she lose weight gradually like a deflating balloon or does she stay the same throughout the round..?
If you stop feeding her, she gradually goes back to her first stage.
Malaki-LEGEND.sys
07-29-2008, 09:29 PM
We also live in a society where a woman is fat if she's five pounds overweight. For Christ's sake, Ivy from the Soul Calibur series is considered fat by a good number of people.
This is stupid and people who think this are very stupid, and should never be payed attention to.
kitty
07-29-2008, 09:33 PM
If anything, this game says it's okay to be fat because it helps you win.
Somebody make this a TF2 PL map.
Bigfoot
07-29-2008, 09:50 PM
If anything, this game says it's okay to be fat because it helps you win.
Being fat also helps you lose. The princess being fat can be both good or bad for either team.
Archaon
07-29-2008, 09:55 PM
It's interesting to note that the two sources of the complaints that the article references don't seem to have an actual argument to put forth. They've both certainly got their little hats of righteous indignance on, no doubt, (one of them actually featured a photograph of the writer in question (who, surprise surprise, is fat) raising her middle finger with an embittered, defiant pout) but they don't seem to know what to direct this righteous indignance at. It looks like they've just had a kneejerk reaction upon hearing about this game, assumed that it was discriminatory to fat women somehow and then continued to run with that idea after after finding out it wasn't and that they didn't really have anything to complain about.
But let's be honest, that's probably what happened.
Seriously, take a look. Both articles are just filled with sarcastic ranting that fails to actually explain the terrible message that these games are supposedly sending.
"YOU HAVE TO RESCUE A FAT PRINCESS! THAT IS SEXIST AND MISOGYNISTIC!"
"How so?"
"I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO BITCH ABOUT IT."
SetzerGabbiani
07-29-2008, 09:56 PM
Some people just like complaining about things. I think it's a cool concept.
Also commonly referred to as "Haters" =P
Hmm, now I havent clicked the link or read all of the posts, so my opinion will be based off of the concept itself. Now that has been said, *ahem*:
People are sensitive. Every time we mention something truthful about the state of our heatlh, race, sex, etc. People will label you accordingly as a rasict, prejudice, etc. Even if what you said applies somewhat to you, then you are a self-hating whatever you are speaking about; and unfortunately, this is the case.
America is overloaded with unhealthy eating habits, we all know that. Our portions are cheap oversized heaps of the wrong kinds of foods loaded with sugars and/or "bad" fats; Our Nation's kids wear jeans that I can fit in. In my opinion, the designer of the game did this as a form of satire to show a sign of the times and people should take it with a grain of salt. But of course those special groups with nothing better to do than meddle in other people's lives instead of improving their own come running over the hill crying foul. I acknowledge that some people are obese because of genetics, medication, etc. But come on, not everybody walking God's green Earth is obese because of those reasons and my statements are not regarding that minority. Simply put, people eat too much of the wrong foods and are too stagnant to work it off, and therefore turn into huge, jiggly masses.
I am 6'0" and weigh about 205 with an average build so I am no American Eagle model, and I like it that way. Personally, I love curvy women; Twigs and muffintops on the other hand, disgust me. But to each his own :)
kitty
07-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Being fat also helps you lose. The princess being fat can be both good or bad for either team.
Thus the whole issue is ambiguous at best!
DarkeSword
07-29-2008, 10:18 PM
In my opinion, the designer of the game did this as a form of satire to show a sign of the times and people should take it with a grain of salt.
I think you're overthinking it. I don't think it's a satire. I think it's just a humorous game concept.
SetzerGabbiani
07-29-2008, 10:54 PM
I think you're overthinking it. I don't think it's a satire. I think it's just a humorous game concept.
It's possible. Or maybe I am just looking at it from a different viewpoint. Either way, like I said before, it's just my two cents =)
It's just things like this make me lose faith in humanity as a whole. People like to go around and criticize other people when somebody does something worthwile, like make a video game, rather than go ut and put in work themselves. The sad thing is is that those people actually make headlines doing this. When people meddle around in other people's lives (she wasnt doing anything illegal or immoral, right?) and turn something so silly into unnecessary drama, I just can't help but to think of all the time that's invested into crying over the situation instead of doing something productive about the "problem" (like making a game themselves) so I just smile and think of Darwinism =)
But hey, any publicity is better than none, right? Maybe she gets picked up by a developing company or something. Who knows?
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