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Abadoss
08-30-2008, 02:16 PM
CMC: Conceptual Music Competition
http://www.abadoss.net/sigs/abadoss-CMC.jpg

This competition is based on the rules of the classic TOMC (http://www.abadoss.net/TOMC.htm) (Thematic Original Music Competition).

The CMC (Conceptual Music Competition) is designed so that each participant enters a piece of music based on a set theme. The participants take the theme and interpret it as they will to come up with something that fits. Any style can work, as long as it portrays a sense of what the theme is.

Feel free to be imaginative!

Each successive theme will be chosen by the winner of the previous competition. For example, say the theme of the last competition, CMC 25, was "Hunted" and the winner, John, submitted a piece that knocked the socks off of everyone, so he won. John then gets to decide the theme for CMC 26.

This competition is open to registered members of the forums of
OverClocked ReMix (http://www.ocremix.org), VGMix (http://www.vgmix.com), VGMusic (http://www.vgmusic.com), Gaming World (http://www.gamingw.net), Young Composers (http://www.youngcomposers.com), and GameDev (http://www.gamedev.net/).

http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/CMC20-forums.jpg

CMC 22: The Magic Instrument
"Is it a magical flute? Perhaps a magical set of bongos? It could be anything, even a magic or super high-tech synthesizer (like in Close Encounters of the Third Kind). It could even be a voice or a set of instruments. Whatever it is, it's special, an that's what your theme should expose." -Ubernym

Results!:
Text results and critiques (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/CMC22_Results.txt)
Audio results (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/CMC22_Results.mp3)

There are 6 entries for this round...

HoboKa - "Revenant PercVoxx (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/HoboKa_-_Revenant_PercVoxx_CMC22.mp3)"

"What do you get when you add low key percs, voxes and HoboKatmosphere? Loathe are we to find out, the result is rather interesting. Enjoy."

Robert Anderson - "The Pied Piper's Call (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/Robert_Anderson_-_The_Pied_Pipers_Call_CMC22.mp3)"

"When one thinks of a magical instrument, one can't go past the Pied Piper's Flute. The menace that comes along with the Pied Piper, and his control over our action, is what this song is meant to reflect. I tried to bring the fairy tale of the Pied Piper into the present by using the urban drumkit and enveloping the story in the filmic noises, where modern fairy tales are shown rather than told. The howls at the end of the first minute reflect both the howls of the rats, and stand as a forewarning to anyone who ignores the Pied Piper's Call..."

Diego Cohen - "Sonata No.2 in D minor: The Acolyte Violin (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/Diego_Cohen_-_Sonata_No_2_in_D_minor_The_Acolyte_Violin_CMC22.m p3)"

"It isn't everyone who is born with the gift of magic. Some must acquire it, through training, discipline, and sacrifice. This is the one who wielded, struggled, accomplished and became."

Blue.Nocturne - "Synthadise (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/Blue.Nocturne_-_Synthadise_CMC22.mp3)"

"It's a 'Synthadise,' (synth + paradise = synthadise) which is some magical land of music with crazy shiny colors all of the place. This piece blends the vision of both sound and color together to make a nice semi-ambient kind of feel. I was thinking of making a song about HoboKa getting on a really crazy acid trip, but I feel this wasn't quite it, perhaps next time. The magical instrument of choice is of course the various synths, specifically the pad that does all the chords. Hope you all like it."

Abadoss - "The Gold Door Opens (http://www.abadoss.net/music/Abadoss_-_The_Gold_Door_Opens_CMC22.mp3)"

"Beyond these doors of inlayed gold
Await rewards from treasures of old
To one whose lyre is beauty untold
A music so rich, a heart so bold"

Ubernym - "The Golden Zither (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/Ubernym_-_The_Golden_Zither_CMC22.mp3)"

"'Su Tan played his golden zither for the wicked emperor, and made his flowers blossom in the imperial gardens. How those blossoms grew and shone with heaven's brilliance, but the emperor's heart was black. All the flowers in the world could never satisfy him.'

-Trials of the Dynasty, by Han Wa"

Voting Rules!:
Voters will be allowed to pick a first place (3 points) and any number of honorary mentions (1 point). Only one set of votes from any one voter will be accepted and a person cannot vote for any one piece more than once. Corrections to votes, from the original voter only, will be accepted, but corrections will void the previous votes. Basically, a voter can vote and correct the vote, but only the final form of that vote will be counted. Send all votes to Abadoss by PM (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=1901). Please include any and all constructive critiques (not to be confused with bashing) about them with your votes as well, so that there's always a sense of growth in the artform. If you wish to remain anonymous, just state so in your PM. Thanks.
The voting period will last from the moment the entries are posted in the thread to the Saturday of that week. The voting period for this round ends September 27, so be sure to spend some time really listening to the pieces.
Any participant in the competition can vote, but not for their own pieces. However, in an effort to encourage voting among participants, any participant who votes will have 2 points added to his/her voting score (unless the participant chooses to be anonymous).

Official Rules!:
Each piece must be originally composed for this competition. Arrangements and remixes will not be accepted. (Pieces composed by the participant prior to the competition will not be accepted.)
Each piece must be 2:00 or longer and match the competition theme.
Only one entry per person. Collaborations will be allowed, but each collaborator may not submit any other pieces. (This also means that a person cannot collaborate on two or more different pieces at the same time.)
A link to the entry piece must be e-mailed (mailto:Abadoss@yahoo.com) or PMed to Abadoss (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=1901) prior to the deadline set for each competition. DO NOT POST THE LINK IN THE THREAD! However, feel free to post in the WIP:Other (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=24) forum.
Important: Each file must be labeled accordingly: Composer_Name_-_Composition_Title_CMC#.mp3
(For example, if Leonard Ipson submits a piece called "Kill the Paperboy" to CMC 29, then his filename would be: Leonard_Ipson_-_Kill_the_Paperboy_CMC29.mp3)
MP3 file format is required. Know that even OGG will need to be converted into MP3. (If someone is unable to do so themselves, Abadoss would be willing and able to do it for them.)
Entries should be accompanied by a description and/or story to help listeners understand what the piece is about. (Not required, though.)
All entries must be submitted by Saturday, September 20, 2008 at 11:59 PM - PST, GMT-8.

You can find the competition threads for each forum listed below:
OverClocked ReMix: http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18067
VGMix: http://www.vgmix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1253
VGMusic: http://www.vgmusic.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11174
Gaming World: http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=74616.0
Young Composers: http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/cmc-22-magic-instrument-16310.html
GameDev: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=506723

Good luck and have fun! :D

Previous CMCs: http://www.abadoss.net/CMC.htm

Abadoss
09-03-2008, 03:38 AM
We'll, we've got one so far... (bump)

Abadoss
09-10-2008, 04:25 PM
So, I'd like to open up the floor to discussion about how to get this competition out to more people. We do get a lot of participation - mostly from here - but I still think that we could probably pull in more. What do you guys think?

Abadoss
09-14-2008, 10:31 PM
Uh, right... Anyone? (bump)

JH Sounds
09-14-2008, 10:44 PM
The magic instrument must have put a jinx on the thread. :wink:

HoboKa
09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
You could try to join KVR forums or Frooty Loops or the DI forums http://forums.di.fm/

HoboKa
09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
We'll, we've got one so far... (bump)

sorry for the double post...but am I the only submission this time around :S:S?

Abadoss
09-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Uh... yes. So far.

HoboKa
09-15-2008, 12:43 AM
Uh... yes. So far.

GG 10 char

TheHands
09-15-2008, 01:02 AM
It might just be that I'm still new to mixing and competitions here, but does it have to be a game arrangement for this competition, or is it an original composition? It wasn't said in the thread yet.

Either way, I'll try to give it a shot.

JH Sounds
09-15-2008, 01:26 AM
It might just be that I'm still new to mixing and competitions here, but does it have to be a game arrangement for this competition, or is it an original composition? It wasn't said in the thread yet.

Each piece must be originally composed for this competition. Arrangements and remixes will not be accepted.

So there.

TheHands
09-15-2008, 01:39 AM
Awesome. Didn't notice the second half of that.

Nohbody
09-15-2008, 01:58 AM
these competition scare me

Hardbeat Acolyte
09-15-2008, 09:04 AM
Huh, possibly, I might just have a crack at this =P

HoboKa
09-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Huh, possibly, I might just have a crack at this =P

I dare you to }:D

ubernym
09-15-2008, 04:07 PM
I do have an entry, but I'm not totally happy with it so I've been doing a rewrite... I will post something though.

Abadoss
09-15-2008, 05:46 PM
There's still a little bit of time... That doesn't mean there's time to procrastinate, though.

HoboKa
09-15-2008, 07:35 PM
There's still a little bit of time... That doesn't mean there's time to procrastinate, though.

if there's no other submitters do I get to make the next theme?? :D

Abadoss
09-16-2008, 02:42 AM
That happened once before... I'm trying to remember what I did then...

blue.nocturne
09-17-2008, 07:44 AM
Well you should pretty much expect HoboKa and me to enter something most of the time. But yeah, mine is in the works.

Abadoss
09-19-2008, 02:27 AM
All entries are due in by this Saturday!

HoboKa
09-19-2008, 02:40 AM
All entries are due in by this Saturday!

better hurry up girlz or this match is MINE buahahah >: P

Abadoss
09-19-2008, 05:03 AM
Uh... not quite, there's at least three entries now...

Lunahorum
09-19-2008, 05:35 AM
I just realized there was a competitions forum on this site. Hmm this due date is too early for me to work on anything this time around. When is the next competition scheduled for?

HoboKa
09-19-2008, 06:03 AM
Uh... not quite, there's at least three entries now...

damn you ken I blame it on youuuu!!!! My plan has been ruined!! /wrists

blue.nocturne
09-19-2008, 11:04 AM
I wouldn't let you win by default anyways. :<
But that very first match was pretty close.

HoboKa
09-19-2008, 11:27 AM
I wouldn't let you win by default anyways. :<
But that very first match was pretty close.

hmmm we shall see - this new entry I've made is pretty damn good. And it's not muddy too (at least not too noticeably so). >:-D

Abadoss
09-19-2008, 03:55 PM
I just realized there was a competitions forum on this site. Hmm this due date is too early for me to work on anything this time around. When is the next competition scheduled for?

I usually get the next round up after the results from voting are released and the winner has chosen a new theme. So, maybe around Oct. 4 or so? In the meantime, feel free to listen to the entries for this round, when they come out, and vote on them.

Lunahorum
09-19-2008, 08:05 PM
I usually get the next round up after the results from voting are released and the winner has chosen a new theme. So, maybe around Oct. 4 or so? In the meantime, feel free to listen to the entries for this round, when they come out, and vote on them.

ok I'll check back every couple of days then

Hardbeat Acolyte
09-20-2008, 10:24 AM
Meh, didn't get far with it, but maybe I'll keep an eye out for future rounds ^__^

Abadoss
09-20-2008, 05:52 PM
You still have until midnight (PST) tonight, if that helps you.

niu
09-20-2008, 08:50 PM
mmmmm ... i've found this thread too late :puppyeyes:

ubernym
09-21-2008, 03:55 AM
I've submitted mine.

Abadoss
09-21-2008, 09:05 AM
All entries are in! Time to start voting!

HoboKa
09-21-2008, 08:30 PM
I dunno if its by accident or not, but Blue.Nocturne's track sounds remarkably close to a Final Fantasy song. :(

Abadoss
09-21-2008, 08:41 PM
I'm pretty sure it's accidental. It's close, but it doesn't match up with any of the tracks I know.

HoboKa
09-21-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm pretty sure it's accidental. It's close, but it doesn't match up with any of the tracks I know.

Alright then... my mistake.

blue.nocturne
09-21-2008, 11:14 PM
Just because I use a 1,2,3,5 double octave arpeggio does not mean I'm trying to rip off the crystal theme from FF... but then because it's so famous no one can get away with using it nowadays. It's not exactly the same as that progression either, I used a 1,2,3,5,6 and other variations so it's very different from the crystal theme's use of it. Plus I have entered as many times as you have, so I don't know why you would even think I would submit something from FF claiming I did it.

HoboKa
09-21-2008, 11:33 PM
HA but I never said Crystal theme in my suspisions Mr Nocturne...that raises the eyebrow further, almost to the tearing point from my head.

C'mon man, you know better than to be so close to a common theme, whether or not it's slightly varied. That's what OCR remixes do, not original compos.

If you get first place on this one, I'm throwing down the towel...

JH Sounds
09-21-2008, 11:48 PM
Ooooo I like where this thread is going... *whips out popcorn*

blue.nocturne
09-21-2008, 11:53 PM
No comment, you really have offended me.
@Abadoss: Do you think I could switch out that song for the alternate song I was going to submit?

HoboKa
09-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Alright, I'll concede that I may have jumped the gun there. And I didn't mean to offend. So my apologies.

Abadoss
09-22-2008, 02:45 AM
Plagarism is a really big deal when it comes to this competition. It's so big a deal that I do not tolerate it at all if I catch it. That also means that saying that someone has plagarized is also a huge deal. This won't help the current situation, but, for now on, if you suspect someone of plagarizing, PM or e-mail me. Don't post it in the thread. This way, all claims can still be taken seriously without ruining the reputation of those who might be innocent. Also, if you claim plagarism, I expect a means of verification. I will not have witch hunts in CMC.

That said, now we have to deal with this one. First off, there are only so many notes in the world. Occasionally, pieces of music are going to sound similiar, whether by intention or by accident. However, unless actual plagarism has occurred - as according to law and the rules of this competition - similarity is not a reason for disciplinary action.

Blue.Nocturne, I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I'd encourage you to keep the current piece in place. There is no precendent, at the moment, for swapping songs after they have been released. I'm naturally hesitant to create a precendent that I may regret later. However, if you feel there is no alternative, please PM me or IM me and we'll keep talking.

xRisingForce
09-22-2008, 10:48 PM
I dunno if its by accident or not, but Blue.Nocturne's track sounds remarkably close to a Final Fantasy song. :(
..Lol

Trying to disqualify your opponents through indirect accusations of plagiarism? It seems that nobody can get away with arpeggiating chords with square synths without someone going "LOL FF7"

Way to go Uematsu, thanks for putting your stamp on such a ubiquitous approach to harmony :\ (kidding)

HA but I never said Crystal theme in my suspisions Mr Nocturne...that raises the eyebrow further, almost to the tearing point from my head.

You have to be kidding here

What -else- could you possibly be referring to other than the main theme of the most popular Final Fantasy, bar none

Look man, it's one thing that your remixes largely deviate from themes to better suit your cornucopia of idiosyncrasies, but why don't you actually try composing within the described ballpark instead of doing your own thing, which kinda sorta defeats the purpose of the CMC. That way you'd be killing two birds with one stone, by 1. expanding your artistic abilities to encapsulate more ideas (which is, arguably, the point of the CMC), and 2. being able to construct pieces that are in line with the CMC, so you can win without having to make inane accusations because you instead write music that's pretty much determined to be dark, hence your failure to win the previous CMC.

Abadoss
09-23-2008, 02:46 AM
Okay... time-out...

No more witch hunts, please.

Blue.Nocturne's piece, after carefully comparing with source material is not in violation of the policies of this competition. HoboKa was concerned about it sounding similar, no more. That is the final decision on the matter.

ubernym
09-26-2008, 01:41 AM
votecast +1

Also: good job to everyone who entered. I seriously hope this little "witch hunt" episode doesn't hurt participation in the future, especially for you, Blue.Nocturne. I always enjoy listening to your entries.

blue.nocturne
09-26-2008, 08:34 AM
Well, it's okay. I'm over it now, so hopefully I get my vote in soon.

Jago
09-26-2008, 10:26 AM
Abadoss,

The entries of Diego Cohen and Blue.Nocturne are linked to yours, which I'm sure was an accident.

Abadoss
09-26-2008, 04:02 PM
They are? They seem to be linked to their respective pieces... They're all on my website, but, other than that, they are all linked to the appropriate songs.

Jago
09-26-2008, 07:55 PM
I just checked again, and it's the same. They're linked to your entry.

Abadoss
09-26-2008, 09:06 PM
Oh. You mean on the CMC-Current page. Okay, yeah that needs to be fixed. I thought you were talking about the first post in the thread.

{edit} - Should be fixed now.

Abadoss
09-28-2008, 05:29 PM
The results are in!

Stay tuned for the next round...

JH Sounds
09-28-2008, 07:48 PM
Audio results (http://www.abadoss.net/CMC/CMC22_Results.mp3)

Oh lol :grin:

blue.nocturne
09-29-2008, 12:07 AM
Lol, audio results were funny.
It's like a CMC commercial!

Just a side note though, I had trouble recognizing this CMC at first because it was written as
"CMC" instead of "Conceptual Music Competition" as you did in the past.
I think it stands out more in the forum with that longer name and it gets more easily recognized,
since everyone else uses 3 letter abbreviations.

Abadoss
09-29-2008, 01:25 AM
I was thinking about that. I remember being asked to use CMC in the past, so that it would be easier to search for it. Also, the theme name was a little long this time around, so I needed to keep it short. However, I can try the longer name next time and see if it changes things.

ubernym
10-01-2008, 07:39 PM
Okay, I've submitted the next theme, so get ready!

I'm also in favor of changing the thread title to the full name of the competition. It may affect search purposes, but these threads are time sensitive and get the best exposure as we post in them and keep them on the main page of OCR. Might get some curious visitors if they see the full name of the compo on the front page instead of a cryptic acronym.

Just my two farthings...