Heroes: Villains

[Dhsu]

Well nobody else was making a topic. :/

So.

Discuss.

[glasfen]

I'm not sure what to think yet. How many times can some of the characters come back? Though I did like the Linderman twist. Oh, and nice ending too. Why didn't I guess that before?

Hiro/Mohindir/Peter... what are you doing?!

[WillRock]

Best Hero - Gandalf
Best Villian - Darth Vader

Of course, thats my opinion.

EDIT: just seem glasfen's post. its about the program heroes villains? The title of the post isn't clear... either that or i'm a jackass :S

[atmuh]

Best Hero - Gandalf
Best Villian - Darth Vader

Of course, thats my opinion.

EDIT: just seem glasfen's post. its about the program heroes villains? The title of the post isn't clear... either that or i'm a jackass :S

hahahahahahahahaha

[Dopple Boppler]

Spider-Suresh was so unintentionally hilarious, I loved it.

[WillRock]

hahahahahahahahaha

haha indeed ;)

I remember watching the first season of heroes, and loving it, but I lost track of it after that. sylar was badass.

[atmuh]

haha indeed ;)

I remember watching the first season of heroes, and loving it, but I lost track of it after that. sylar was badass.

see heres a noob i can respect
i laughed at a silly thing he did and he laughed back

[Elex Synn]

I remember watching the first season of heroes, and loving it, but I lost track of it after that. sylar was badass.

That's basically were I fall with the show. I didn't care to watch season 2 or beyond.

"Are you on the list"?

[Lord.Roderick.i]

That's basically were I fall with the show. I didn't care to watch season 2 or beyond.

"Are you on the list"?
I've watched Both Season 1 and 2, and 2 sucked ass compared to 1, so far Im liking 3 a lot, but I missed the 1st hr, so I'll have to watch it later online.

[Dhsu]

I've watched Both Season 1 and 2, and 2 sucked ass compared to 1, so far Im liking 3 a lot, but I missed the 1st hr, so I'll have to watch it later online.
If you're referring to the "countdown," it's probably better that you missed it because there were a lot of "sneak peaks" (i.e. spoilers) that kinda ruined some of the surprise.

[Hale-Bopp]

Anyone else catch the blaringly obvious parallel between the mohinder scenes where he's showing off his power/changing and the 1986 version of The Fly. Everything that was happening was an homage to that movie. Before the bathroom scene, I told my wife that I think he's going to turn into a monster and tear his skin off. Well, sure enough...

Also, how about the guest appearances of some old time heroes like Tron (Bruce Boxleitner) and The Greatest American Hero (William Katt)? Very cool!

I guess they did all those things for old-timers like myself. :P

[TheSnowStorm]

So why did Heroes took the Time Paradox path where





[spoilers]Future Peter goes back in the past, "kills" his brother Nate, revieves his brother, and did the time paradox/butterfly effect? Weird plot twist.{/spoiler]


I would say, Heroes: Villains has redeem itself after the crap that was the second season. It went back to the roots of the original Heroes and didn't try to do anything new.

[Dhsu]

didn't try to do anything new.
Um that's not a good thing.

[kupernikus]

Um that's not a good thing.

Not really, not all new things are good, not all change is good, remember New Coke?

[SynthesizedStampede]

Watched the first episode of Season 3, but had to skip episode 2 to do my homework. What I saw though got me reinterested in the series though, because after season 1 it sorta died off for me :-(. And lol @ Peter going back in time and effin' everything up thinking he was "fixing" everything lol.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Lots of nice twists and it's back to Heroes season 1 level of fluff instead of the totally ridiculous and extremely hurried 'season 2'. Also none of that wannabe-Japanese (wapanese) crap this time around.

Also Ando turning evil/good/whatever and all the level 5's going loose? I think that's the best cliffhanger in the series. Screw future-Peter. The whole Sylar-mom thing is okay, but they're really wringing that plot dry and it's like every woman out there is Sylar's mom by now.

And they have a Magneto!

[Effector]

The little group I watch Heroes with definitely picked up on The Fly motif... at the first commercial (no talking during the show, obviously) after Mohinder flips out, someone just turns to me and says, "Can you say Indian Jeff Goldblum?" :3

Plus, we were debating this - if they wanted to incapacitate Sylar now, couldn't they just separate his head from his body? And whenever they wanted to talk to him, bring them back together - like what happened with Claire and her scalp?

[Sag Ee Mana]

A Villain ?

I've just watched this (http://au.youtube.com/experiencewii)... So I'l like to answer HIM for today.
He can destroy... internet.

[TheSnowStorm]

Plus, we were debating this - if they wanted to incapacitate Sylar now, couldn't they just separate his head from his body? And whenever they wanted to talk to him, bring them back together - like what happened with Claire and her scalp?

See, that was just the scalp, it wasn't anything major like the head. Usually in fiction, if a character has God-like healing factor and if they're immortal like Syler and Claire, usually the best way to kill them is to behead them. How else will the brain tell the body to heal itself? (Unless the creators want to go on a humorous path and have Syler or Claire's body walk to the head and put itself back together.)

Remember that dream Claire's bio grandmother had where one of the villains from Level 5 beheaded Claire and Claire didn't recover? All they have to do is behead Syler. That what Hiro should have done to Adam instead of just buring him alive.

Also none of that wannabe-Japanese (wapanese) crap this time around.

Ah, Adam the Gajin . .. I for one didn't like him. He didn't had that true cruel evil aura like Syler. Adam was just some wanpanese gajin bitch who only became evil because some dude took his girlfriend.

[nohero]

Hmmm, I clicked on this topic expecting to see a lot more criticism and harshness directed towards the show.

I personally thought the two new episodes were chock full of cliches and unoriginality. Admittedly, a show about people with mutant powers can't really create a plot without having it parallel some existing plot (Peter = Bishop, Mohinder = Hank McCoy), but still...

Oh, and I love how the writers pretty much crapped all over what little semblance of believable science the show had with Mohinder's new discovery. "It's not in the DNA, its in the adrenaline!!!" Oh boy...

[glasfen]

I agree with nohero on the science aspect. It was probably better off as a mystery. The Star Wars source of the "force" revelation was similarly disappointing (to me, anyway).

Still, I'm glad it's back. Something to look forward to on Mondays.

Is it just me or has Maya's English improved dramatically?

[nohero]

I agree with nohero on the science aspect. It was probably better off as a mystery. The Star Wars source of the "force" revelation was similarly disappointing (to me, anyway).

Still, I'm glad it's back. Something to look forward to on Mondays.

Is it just me or has Maya's English improved dramatically?

Yup. It must be from hanging around with Mohinder, who went from a somewhat Apu-ish Indian accent to a British accent to passable Harvard-esque English.

I'm also wondering where she buys all her expensive clothes from, and how she avoids being deported...

[Jarvi]

Oh, and I love how the writers pretty much crapped all over what little semblance of believable science the show had with Mohinder's new discovery. "It's not in the DNA, its in the adrenaline!!!" Oh boy...

well, the way I understood it was that the adrenaline activated the powers, which is why he makes a comment about adding adrenaline for instant results, but I could be totally wrong, as these were the first 2 episodes I've ever seen.

[glasfen]

I'm also wondering where she buys all her expensive clothes from, and how she avoids being deported...

Yeah, they do well for a broke, discredited researcher and a fugitive living in a studio that doesn't even belong to them (when is Isaac's rent up anyway?).

What ever happened to the Irish girl? She's just flung to the deadly future and forgotten? I guess there's not much hope for since they didn't save Charlie either.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Yeah, you would think with a loft with such a horrific criminal history behind it, it'd probably be closed off forever. But noooooo. Logic has no place in Heroes.

[Dhsu]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8568/heroespf5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heroespf5.jpg)

They're getting pretty good at this.

[Kizyr]

I lost interest around halfway through Season 2. But I'm glad I'm giving it another chance; Season 3 so far is looking really interesting.

More people need to really die, though. Not this whole "Oh I'm dead, but NOT REALLY!" thing that keeps happening. Though, the circumstances of Linderman's "reappearance" wasn't all that surprising.

By the way, I go between really liking and not liking Mohinder. I always like it when there's a South Asian character who can actually kick ass in a show (which is why the Street Fighter movie irritated me--'nother topic). But back in Season 2 he just irritated me with going on the wrong side so often.

Right now, I'm not sure... "Let me inject myself with this thing to give me superpowers. What could possibly go wrong?!" And he's supposed to be a scientist?

Lastly, anyone notice the listed superpower for the "you don't wanna know" guy? Something like "Sound Manipulation". That should be fun. KF

[I-n-j-i-n]

I lost interest around halfway through Season 2. But I'm glad I'm giving it another chance; Season 3 so far is looking really interesting.

More people need to really die, though. Not this whole "Oh I'm dead, but NOT REALLY!" thing that keeps happening. Though, the circumstances of Linderman's "reappearance" wasn't all that surprising.

With EVERYBODY having healing powers, it is getting pretty annoying. Like action anime or a comic series where people die but aren't dead. I can't believe Heroes is in on that game too.

By the way, I go between really liking and not liking Mohinder. I always like it when there's a South Asian character who can actually kick ass in a show (which is why the Street Fighter movie irritated me--'nother topic). But back in Season 2 he just irritated me with going on the wrong side so often.

Right now, I'm not sure... "Let me inject myself with this thing to give me superpowers. What could possibly go wrong?!" And he's supposed to be a scientist?

Lastly, anyone notice the listed superpower for the "you don't wanna know" guy? Something like "Sound Manipulation". That should be fun. KF

Mohinder just irritates me personally. Too flip-floppy, he totally desecrates upon his father's work when he says he wants to honor him, keeps siding with Sylar and other villains like a total idiot and now he's turning into a beetle or something.

[glasfen]

now he's turning into a beetle or something.

Maybe a cockroach? That would fit in with the series' symbolism.

[Dhsu]

I lost interest around halfway through Season 2. But I'm glad I'm giving it another chance; Season 3 so far is looking really interesting.

More people need to really die, though. Not this whole "Oh I'm dead, but NOT REALLY!" thing that keeps happening. Though, the circumstances of Linderman's "reappearance" wasn't all that surprising.

By the way, I go between really liking and not liking Mohinder. I always like it when there's a South Asian character who can actually kick ass in a show (which is why the Street Fighter movie irritated me--'nother topic). But back in Season 2 he just irritated me with going on the wrong side so often.

Right now, I'm not sure... "Let me inject myself with this thing to give me superpowers. What could possibly go wrong?!" And he's supposed to be a scientist?

Lastly, anyone notice the listed superpower for the "you don't wanna know" guy? Something like "Sound Manipulation". That should be fun.
That sounds more like Emille from the webisodes. Bennet says "you don't even wanna know," and sound manipulation doesn't seem scary enough to warrant that kind of comment.

KF
KF? Korn Fan? Kissing Fish? King Frittata??

[Effector]

Oh, and I love how the writers pretty much crapped all over what little semblance of believable science the show had with Mohinder's new discovery. "It's not in the DNA, its in the adrenaline!!!" Oh boy...

Yeah, I didn't really like that. But what bothers me more the blatant disparity between that and Sylar's power. He figures out how things work, but how does poking at someone's brain get him these specific genetic markers? Maybe I missed something from a previous episode explaining that.

That sounds more like Emille from the webisodes. Bennet says "you don't even wanna know," and sound manipulation doesn't seem scary enough to warrant that kind of comment.

Do you mean Echo? DeMille, I think was his last name. Interesting idea and definitely... interesting acting. But yeah, it just sounded stupidly obvious they were trying to be dramatic with that line.

Although Echo did destroy an agent's brains by yelling into his ear, which was pretty badass.

[nohero]

Yeah, I didn't really like that. But what bothers me more the blatant disparity between that and Sylar's power. He figures out how things work, but how does poking at someone's brain get him these specific genetic markers? Maybe I missed something from a previous episode explaining that.



Do you mean Echo? DeMille, I think was his last name. Interesting idea and definitely... interesting acting. But yeah, it just sounded stupidly obvious they were trying to be dramatic with that line.

Although Echo did destroy an agent's brains by yelling into his ear, which was pretty badass.

At least they put an end to the stubborn "Slyer eats peoples brainS!!1!" fuckers. I always figured he took powers by observing a brain as he would a watch, but yeah, that makes no sense on a genetic level. I'm probably just a little harsher on the bullshit science reasoning since I study science and genetics, though.

[Streets of Rage bum]

it's a tricky thing writing for a show like this, it set up a really high standard to follow with Season 1... This show focuses on so many different characters that anyone of them must be somebody's favourite, so when they kill'em off, they eventually need to bring 'em back to keep peeps happy a la: Marvel comics. but hell, i'm still watchin' and readin', still makes for a fun ride.

[Kizyr]

That sounds more like Emille from the webisodes. Bennet says "you don't even wanna know," and sound manipulation doesn't seem scary enough to warrant that kind of comment.
I figured that comment was just the result of poor writing. Regardless, something sound-related definitely came up on the screen. And right now that character is still possessed by Peter. So, it's got my curiosity piqued a bit.

KF? Korn Fan? Kissing Fish? King Frittata??
My initials. Something I got into the habit of way back.... and I can't get out of. KF

[rigamaroll]

Spoilers in this next post.

I notice that no one actually cares about the utterly moronic subplot involving Matt the policeman (who is so unimportant that I barely know his name) getting sent to Africa and Past-Peter being transformed into someone completely different for no adequately explained reason (probably eldritch adrenaline-based magick). Not to mention the fact that super speed girl shows up right as Hiro picks up yet another destroying-the-world-formula to steal it. Meanwhile, Finding-People Girl (another completely unimportant character who was asleep for most of season 2) is at an airport, just when her powers could actually be useful in finding The Bad Guys, the formula, and basically putting the entire season to rest. This compounded by the fact that Nikki has a clone.

[Imagist]

I'm not trying to defend the show or anything (I find myself unable to quit watching it at this point almost because of how utterly mediocre it is in every way, once the initial 'OMFG COOL' factor of season one wore off), but you're making a couple very baseless assumptions. One, that the Speedster showing up right on time to steal the formula is some kind of coincidence (what is her motivation for stealing the formula, who is she working for, what kind of intelligence might her employer have?), and two, that Tracy isn't really Niki (she's had entirely split personalities before, so why not now?). Also, I find Parkman's storyline one of the most interesting at the moment, simply because it's relatively difficult to predict how it will pan out.

[Dopple Boppler]

Also, I find Parkman's storyline one of the most interesting at the moment, simply because it's relatively difficult to predict how it will pan out.

Judging by the preview during The Office tonight, his storyline leads to finding...wait for it...more paintings of the future! Oh Heroes writers, you shockingly brilliant people you, I await with bated breath to see what fresh new ideas that haven't already been done in both of the prior seasons you're able to pull from the deep, dark depths of your imaginations next.

[CSmith]

One, that the Speedster showing up right on time to steal the formula is some kind of coincidence (what is her motivation for stealing the formula, who is she working for, what kind of intelligence might her employer have?),

The online graphic novels are usually pretty boring to me, but occasionally characters show up and get introduced there before they appear on the show. http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/downloads/Heroes_novel_097.pdf is where she first shows up. Maybe it alienates the viewers who don't also read the comics online, but there ya go.