Advance Wars forum mod murdered by member

[The Damned]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/26/games.ukcrime

modhate +1

Good thing no one here has any issues with mods, huh?

[DarkeSword]

:(

RIP, brother.

[Elex Synn]

Yikes... Thankfully I choose to avoid arguments on the web. Ya'll crazy. o_o

[Zombie]

Wow. That's pretty fucked up. :(

[atmuh]

I love all the mods a lot fyi

[Azure Prower]

This is why people should not give their personal details over the internet.

Never know when some deranged psycho is going to come after you.

[atmuh]

This is why people should not give their personal details over the internet.

Never know when some deranged psycho is going to come after you.

heh I actually agree

[SlickDaddySlick]

So apparently, some butthurt member got upset because a mod was doing his job? He went as far as killing the mod? Come on! This is why people need to stop taking the internet seriously. Something as minor as a mod giving you a warning is no reason to kill.

This is why people should not give their personal details over the internet.

Never know when some deranged psycho is going to come after you.


Agreed. Play it smart kids and use common sense. You don't know who you're dealing with online.

[SirChadlyOC]

I thought Advance Wars: Days of Ruin was a little too dark for its fanbase.

But in all seriousness though...wow. Unbelievable.

[Nekofrog]

i'll Kill You Darksworde

[Aninymouse]

Everyone tackle Nekofrog and hit him with tazers!

[FR]

i'll Kill You Darksworde

Quick DarkeSword change your location info!

[Hausdog]

Good god. Why so serious? I'm just having a good time, taking the internet for a ride. I wouldn't KILL anyone over it. Geez, just keep your internet life and real life separate.

[Broken]

glad to hear the forum went on hiatus in the mod's memory, and that memorial by the boy's parents is very touching.

I'm always sorry to hear news like this.

[The Damned]

I don't know... some mods are total assholes, and deserve some form of physical injury.

I should know, I was one. Long story short, I banned a guy because he was a massive idiot, but I did it in a wonderfully public-humiliation sort of way. The other mods were all "you were kind of mean", and I was all "maybe if you didn't act like pussies towards the fucking idiots all the time..." and then I quit.

True story.

[SlickDaddySlick]

Geez, just keep your internet life and real life separate.


Sadly, for some people, those two lives merge together with each other. I may be wrong, but for some, that is the only life they can live.

Almost all of the folks you talk with online, you may never see in real life, so don't dwell upon it.

EDIT: Besides, the only people who deserves physical harm online are internet tough guys who talk a lot of shit online, but are general pussies and cowards offline. Still, like I stated above, you should not dwell on that.

[BardicKnowledge]

Wow -- Internet is serious business, I guess...

I'll admit that I feel slightly awkward having the info needed to track me down easily available both here and Facebook after reading this. :(

[DarkeSword]

I don't know... some mods are total assholes, and deserve some form of physical injury.

Nobody deserves physical injury for doing things on the internet.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[atmuh]

Nobody deserves physical injury for doing things on the internet.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

100% absolutely positively wholeheartedly agreed

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE THIS IS THE FREAKING INTERNET

I would never wish physical harm on another person PERIOD but to do so on the internet is ridiculous. It almost irks me when someone in #ocremix (because it's just one big barrel of love) tells another person to "kill themself" or "die" or anything similar. Even jokingly I don't see how someone in their right mind can say such a thing to another person (and I always wanted such things said to be a bannable offense but obviously that never happened).

[Aninymouse]

I don't know... some mods are total assholes, and deserve some form of physical injury.

I should know, I was one. Long story short, I banned a guy because he was a massive idiot, but I did it in a wonderfully public-humiliation sort of way. The other mods were all "you should come over for a tea party", and I was all "maybe if you didn't act like unwashed heathens. Sheesh, bathe, man" and then I ate a banana. And climbed a wall of dicks with Doctor Eggman.

True story.

Cool story, bro.

[Kureejii Lea]

What an utterly asinine thing to die/kill over. How sad.

I'm sure we all get pissed off at others over any form of communication at one point or another, but you get over it and move on. It's something else entirely to maintain that rage long enough to drive from Germany to the UK and put on a decent act so as to be willingly let into someone's home and then kill them. That's just sick.

[The Author]

Nobody deserves physical injury for doing things on the internet.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Obviously, as a mod, you would say that...

Is that fear I smell...

Otherwise, you have to be a special kind of nuts to go that far over a forum.

[Yera]

I know I'm a newcomer to OCR and haven't been around forums long enough to know if this is do-able, but...

Would it be feasible for a massive OCR collab of Advance Wars soundtracks to be sent en masse to both the mod's forum and (possibly) to the deceased's parents? It could be something like what happened recently for bLiNd, where the entire OCR community grieved and suffered with him, only we would grieve and suffer with a community of fellow gamers.

I don't know who could direct this project, but I thought I'd throw the idea out and see if anyone takes it.

[DarkeSword]

It's a nice sentiment, but we don't really know the guy. It's a little odd to do such a huge tribute for someone like that.

And nobody grieved for bLiNd. That was a well-wishing project aimed at lifting his spirits. It wasn't a tribute-album.

[Bleck]

heh europe

[StarZander]

This is a great tragedy, and all my sympathy goes out to Pyke's family and friends, but this just made me cringe:

...tips on strategy, characters and plots for the Nintendo game, Advanced Wars. The game pits armies of cartoon characters against each other.

Easy mistake to make, but it still bugs me when press does that.

[Dunnowhathuh]

Ay, maybe this'll stop people from being complete pricks on the internet....nope, I doubt it. Not saying that this guy was actually being a prick or anything. Either way, killing over an internet squabble may have been a bit much.

[relyanCe]

Nobody deserves physical injury for doing things on the internet.

... cyberterrorists?

[BooDidley7]

Out of morbid curiosity, I really want to see the exchange between these guys online that lead to this.

And talk about an unnecessary tragedy.

[baconbonanza]

Out of morbid curiosity, I really want to see the exchange between these guys online that lead to this.

And talk about an unnecessary tragedy.
Yeah, I kinda do as well. What kind of conversation, on an Advance Wars forum no less, would lead to this? The admin seems to have blocked registration and ATM is only allowing members to read the forums. Probably for the best, I'm sure this has stirred up plenty of curiosity about the forum.

[djpretzel]

Nobody deserves physical injury for doing things on the internet.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Yes... and no.

Let me explain: I see the whole "Internet is Serious Business" mantra two ways:


Good: "Chill out, you didn't lose any money or teeth, people behave like asses online, etc."
Bad: "It's just the Internet. People can and should act like douches with zero repercussions because the Internet is a trivial waste of time and common decency is overrated in the first place."In other words, I think the whole "it's just the Internet" argument is a little self-defeating. Billions of dollars move back and forth on the Internet every day. People are introduced to gals/guys they end up marrying. Company secrets are leaked and corrupt business practices exposed that would previously have gotten little to no coverage whatsoever. Bloggers that aren't part of the mainstream media give the average citizen a powerful voice in elections and other aspects of the political process. People from all over the world collaborate, argue, share ideas, and yes, act like idiots, but on a platform that allows (for the first time since ever) significant cultural and geographic diversity.

Honestly, if I didn't think the Internet was ACTUALLY at least SEMI-serious business, I'd feel like a jackass for wasting so much time on it, and I don't see why anyone else who's poured their heart and soul into a website, or been introduced to new ideas & people, or had their prejudices and stereotypes shattered time and again, would feel differently. Too often I feel like the whole "Internet is serious business" line is being used either by people who want to excuse their own stupidity by contextualizing, or to criticize the overreactions of others... which would be overreactions in real life, too, by the way. Every time something like this happens online, the common reaction is always "it's just the Internet"... as if people killing each other for $100 sneakers, or in bar fights, made any more sense. I don't see why we need to marginalize/trivialize the Internet specifically: people do this sort of shit, one way or the other.

To sum things up, I don't think anyone deserves to die for anything they say, period. On the Internet, or off. The Internet is no more or less "serious business" than real life, in this particular regard.

[SlickDaddySlick]

Yeah, I kinda do as well. What kind of conversation, on an Advance Wars forum no less, would lead to this? The admin seems to have blocked registration and ATM is only allowing members to read the forums. Probably for the best, I'm sure this has stirred up plenty of curiosity about the forum.

That's a good idea seeing that they what to avoid controversy and maybe the press.

[DrumUltimA]

100% absolutely positively wholeheartedly agreed

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE THIS IS THE FREAKING INTERNET

I would never wish physical harm on another person PERIOD but to do so on the internet is ridiculous. It almost irks me when someone in #ocremix (because it's just one big barrel of love) tells another person to "kill themself" or "die" or anything similar. Even jokingly I don't see how someone in their right mind can say such a thing to another person (and I always wanted such things said to be a bannable offense but obviously that never happened).

seriously atmuh, it's the internet.

[Knives]

It's a nice sentiment, but we don't really know the guy. It's a little odd to do such a huge tribute for someone like that.How about doing it just because advanced wars has a totally badass soundtrack? Or that it'll give OCR great publicity? But aside from that, I think it's a stereotype that german gamers get ESPECIALLY riled up in game and on game forums... so I just found it interesting that the killer was german.

[The Author]

How about doing it just because advanced wars has a totally badass soundtrack? Or that it'll give OCR great publicity? But aside from that, I think it's a stereotype that german gamers get ESPECIALLY riled up in game and on game forums... so I just found it interesting that the killer was german.
It could be seen in bad taste. It would be a bad attempt at a publicity stunt using a bit of a tragedy as a launching point

[Elex Synn]

I think it's a stereotype that german gamers get ESPECIALLY riled up in game and on game forums... so I just found it interesting that the killer was german.

I feel bad for saying this, but this was one of the first things that crossed my mind after reading the article.

[The Damned]

I like how I tell a story about how I was being an asshole mod and that I deserved to get punched for it, and people get offended by this.

You guys really do like me.

[DarkeSword]

Or that it'll give OCR great publicity?

Wow. Poor taste, much?

[rem]

Gosh. In a forum about Advance Wars, where the strongest arguments come about via the choice of CO's.

[Strike911]

I guess he used his CO power.

That would have taken like 100 turns just to get in range, unless he was using Grit.

I bet he was using Grit.

Sidenote: This makes me not want to talk to ANY of you ever again...

Please don't kill me...

[HalcyonSpirit]

What a way to go. I wonder what sort of mental issues this guy has. Seriously, who goes on a many-hour trip just to kill someone in another country altogether over an argument that probably meant nothing? It boggles the mind.

That said, I have to admit that the first thing that popped into my mind upon reading this, the very first thing, was this (http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-092208.php). I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[Ralphis]

Something to consider:

Some people here have already mentioned that the real life and internet lives of a person should be kept separate. I agree with this to an extent.

The unfortunate truth is that for some people on the internet, most especially those considering themselves gamers, their internet life is pretty much their only real life.

Pathetic and sad, but true.

ALSO

Some people are just nuts.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Gosh. In a forum about Advance Wars, where the strongest arguments come about via the choice of CO's.

Wrong. Choice of maps seems to be the thing nowadays, because CO's lost their powers and uniqueness for the most part.

I'm pretty sure this issue can't possibly rise out of the game itself. I mean come on.

[Dafydd]

I still don't understand why he did it.

Myself, I only know one person on OCR irl, and no one on the other forums I visit.

[kitty]

My internet life and real life intersect a lot. Most of my friends in real life are the ones I talk to and play games with online. I even met a guy in Florida and he flew out to my apartment to chill with me and other friends (that he also knew over the internet and I know irl) and it was a blast.

This whole isolation thing is too extreme. The chances of you getting killed by some guy over the internet is slim to none. This guy just happened to piss off the one guy who would go and do that.

[Nohbody]

you guys are missing the point. we should have mods killing members not vice versa

[SlickDaddySlick]

I think the only action when you should do something in real life that is related to online is when something illegal goes down on the internet such as a plan to attack somebody, predators, etc. Not some bullshit name-calling and harassment.

[EdgeCrusher]

Apparently Advance Wars = serious business. Plus euro nuts :)