Fable 2

[Halt]

"Your story is waiting."
About

Fable™ II is the true sequel to the wildly successful original that sold more than 3 million copies, offering even more choices and building on the core gameplay theme of "Fable," where a player’s every decision continually defines whom they become. "Fable II" is an action role-playing game (RPG) that truly allows players to live the life they choose in an unimaginably open world environment.
Set 500 years after the original, "Fable II" will provide gamers with an epic story and innovative real-time gameplay, including a massive amount of freedom and choice to explore a vast collection of dungeons, catacombs and caves in the world of Albion.


Features


Choices, consequences. The innovative gameplay pioneered in the original Fable provided gamers with a never-before-seen level of immersion in a truly interactive world. Fable II expands upon the scope and depth of the Xbox classic by adding incredible new features and creating a wider, more complex kingdom of limitless choices and consequences. Players will have the option to play as a man or woman, get married, have children, and live a life of their own design.

A land far, far away. Revisit the sprawling world of Albion more than 500 years after the events of the original Fable, where you are free to explore the landscape and openly roam the countryside. For the right price every house, hut, dungeon and castle is for sale. Players can witness how the world grows and changes in response to their decisions in incredible and unique ways as they rediscover Albion as if for the first time.

Fight with ease. Fable II pioneers a new combat system designed to allow players to truly master hand weapons such as swords and maces, ranged combat weapons such as cross-bows and guns, and an entirely new magic system. These three disciplines, while very accessible, are also amazingly deep, and allow players to mix combat styles and become everything from master swordsman to skilled ranger to evil magic weilder, utilizing a single button on the Xbox 360 controller.

A hero’s best friend. This groundbreaking addition to the game is integral to the theme of unconditional love in Fable II. The canine companion will act as friend, compass and protector. Players must merely feed their pooch and he will love unconditionally, creating a bond that sets up emotion-filled journeys all throughout this magical world.

Experience the world together. For the first time in the Fable” series, gamers can experience the expansive and immersive world of Fable II with friends, utilizing the new and exciting Dynamic Co-op Mode, bringing the long-awaited multiplayer function to the world of Fable II.

Xbox LIVE Arcade mini-games earn major cash. Carbonated Games has partnered with Lionhead Studios Ltd. to bring an unparalleled experience to gamers through Xbox LIVE Arcade. Gamers can start earning in-game currency for the Fable II world later this year, before the game's release to retail, by downloading and playing exclusive mini-games, which will be available for download on Xbox LIVE Arcade and allow gamers to purchase weapons, armor and more for their hero.

I pre-ordered The limited Eddition for bout $70. and I CANNOT WAIT until October 21st :]

What do you all think?

[Zombie]

I will probably pick it up. Though not having time to get deep into games sucks... :\

[I-n-j-i-n]

Better live up to the hype the first game set. If it turns out to be the same shallow game, I won't bother.

[anosou]

Better live up to the hype the first game set. If it turns out to be the same shallow game, I won't bother.

I'd still bother, I like shallow games from time to time.
Hopefully it will kick ass though.. because I also pre-ordered it ;P

[I-n-j-i-n]

I'd still bother, I like shallow games from time to time.
Hopefully it will kick ass though.. because I also pre-ordered it ;P

I'll probably get around to playing it because it IS a big RPG title after all.

But the whole 'choose your own destiny thing' was a total letdown in the first game and just about everybody basically passed judgment that it was a letdown in terms of the game's premise. And now they're saying this sequel will fix the faults of the first game. It'd be pretty strange of them to whiff twice.

[Azure Prower]

I'm really looking forward to this game. I was really into the first one. I still can't see what all the bitching about how some features weren't adding it. It was still one of the best action RPGames I've seen to date.

Even if Fable 2 doesn't deliver half of its promised, it is still going to be much better than any other RPG out there.

Some people just expect too much with so little time and technology. I have a realistic aspect upon games and know their limits. Living in a dream world and hoping for the impossible doesn't really do much.

[Nohbody]

Fable was an amazing game, limited only by ridiculous loading times and a plot that sort of sucked a cock.

Guys, do you remember the spells? There was that one knockback spell that cost like a two hundredth of your magic at its highest level. You could use it at any time you wanted, even during attacks. Also you could walk into a house, use it, and trash everything.
XBox360 will only make it better. But that Peter molixinox guy creeps me out.

[Sixto]

Sucks that this won't be on PC.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Sucks that this won't be on PC.

Thank god we won't be hearing about rampant piracy and DRM issues. Honestly, PCs are becoming a tad bit irrelevant in the RPG front too. Sorta sad, but it comes with the times.

[Schwaltzvald]

PCs are becoming a tad bit irrelevant in the RPG front too.

Always thought they just simply mutated into mmorpgs, and even then I'd rather play an rpg on a console over a PC; Fable 2 however I'll pass...

[anosou]

Thank god we won't be hearing about rampant piracy and DRM issues. Honestly, PCs are becoming a tad bit irrelevant in the RPG front too. Sorta sad, but it comes with the times.

Finally! Now we can all sit down in our living room and ENJOY the game :3

anyway, I'm especially looking forward to the "invite a friend" thingy. looks kinda neat.

[I-n-j-i-n]

Always thought they just simply mutated into mmorpgs, and even then I'd rather play an rpg on a console over a PC; Fable 2 however I'll pass...

More like MMORPGs spawned off themselves, because oldschool mainstays never really made the jump.

I'm on the fence with Fable 2 in terms of buying it on launch. If it gets bad reviews, it's either to rentals or waiting until it's $30 or $20. If it gets "OH MY GOD, BEST GAME OF THE YEAR" reviews, then I might have to buy it. I was still impressed with Fable, except it didn't live up to the ungodly hype.

[Genjutsu74]

Looking forward to this. First Fable was a letdown. I'm just hoping this actually becomes "Fable II", not simply "what Fable should've been".

I mean, I'd still buy it. I've got it preordered. But this is a little worrisome. (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/914/914061p1.html) Considering everything the first one failed to deliver, that's not good.

(Yeah, I know they're trying to get it added on later. It still sucks.)

[Schwaltzvald]

I mean, I'd still buy it. I've got it preordered. But this is a little worrisome. (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/914/914061p1.html) Considering everything the first one failed to deliver, that's not good.

(Yeah, I know they're trying to get it added on later. It still sucks.)

I know the feeling, where as for me, I've become hesitant on a game coming out from atlus. Having had an associate who played the original japanese version (imported) he said it was an enjoyable SRPG; yet upon further research people that are waiting for the American release are worried about long loading times not being fixed... I asked about this and he said he didn't really notice... ugh I hate it when that kind of shit happens...

(I know somewhat far from the issues on the first Fable but still...)

[prophetik]

i am so incredibly stoked about this, and i can't wait.

like someone else in this thread said - even if it delivers half of what's promised, it's still going to be amazing.

[Halt]

Long loading times, Big deal, it was an Incredible game, for the first of its kind. The Second only brings the better. I own Fable the lost chapters, and like I said before, Pre-ordered the limited eddtion.

I LOVED the first, and I will definately love this one. Loading times didnt bother me much, because i can be patient. Im sure it will be fixed though.

[Thin Crust]

The first one promised that trees would grow throughout the passing 'years' that you played. This one had better have at least that.

[Halt]

The first one promised that trees would grow throughout the passing 'years' that you played. This one had better have at least that.

O_o. You want to show something to back that up? I recall nothing of the sort. :?

[Schwaltzvald]

Long loading times, Big deal, it was an Incredible game, for the first of its kind. The Second only brings the better. I own Fable the lost chapters, and like I said before, Pre-ordered the limited eddtion.

I LOVED the first, and I will definately love this one. Loading times didnt bother me much, because i can be patient. Im sure it will be fixed though.

I wasn't referring to fable having long loading times I meant towards another game.

Also while loading times are not necessarily a big issue with a game like fable, any strategy rpg (Think Fire Emblem or Disgaea) in particularly when you're issuing commands that have long loading times is something to be worried about...

O_o. You want to show something to back that up? I recall nothing of the sort. :?

as for the growing trees thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQLR7dE5k4

[Halt]

Wow. Looks like I learned something new.. Never knew that. lets hope this one will eh? I read something somewhere that your surroundings will change according to your actions, so I assume, this will have that feature.

[Nohbody]

I hope poppy moxlinox (i give up) watched that review. Every game company should be required to watch their respective Zero Punctuation and take notes on it before making a sequel.



Nintendo: 'Eight...cunt gargling...hours.... ok.' *clicks pen*

[Schwaltzvald]

I hope poppy moxlinox (i give up) watched that review. Every game company should be required to watch their respective Zero Punctuation and take notes on it before making a sequel.



Nintendo: 'Eight...cunt gargling...hours.... ok.' *clicks pen*

It's Peter Molyneux you clod, and not every game requires a review ala Zero Punctuation. Do remember Yahtzee detests jrpgs and if you're into them, don't expect anything good coming from him on them. I do however enjoyed his take on "Painkiller". IMO it truly is the "true" continuation to the DOOM series; just instead of a marine doing the killing its some joe schmo wanting nothing more than to be with the wifey after redeeming himself from a fuck up :lol:

You must be refering to the creators of games rather than the companies, as companies can easily adjust themselves to adapt when a series had shitted on itself and died, creators though...

[Halt]

Uh, Guys I has some bad news. If you pre-ordered the Fable 2 LE. You may want to be concerend and be checking your e-mail within the next couple of days.

http://community.lionhead.com/forums/1/3088825/ShowThread.aspx

Bad news D;

I think this was released today? not sure.

[Schwaltzvald]

uh... so long as they sell it at a cheaper price than it was before when it had the bonus stuff I don't see much of a problem to it. I can sympathize though the hardcore fans going apeshit about it...

[Nohbody]

It's Peter Molyneux you clod, and not every game requires a review ala Zero Punctuation. Do remember Yahtzee detests jrpgs and if you're into them, don't expect anything good coming from him on them. I do however enjoyed his take on "Painkiller". IMO it truly is the "true" continuation to the DOOM series; just instead of a marine doing the killing its some joe schmo wanting nothing more than to be with the wifey after redeeming himself from a fuck up :lol:

You must be refering to the creators of games rather than the companies, as companies can easily adjust themselves to adapt when a series had shitted on itself and died, creators though...
Fable isnt a jrpg...

and yes, I meant Meter Polynox, not game company


and o noes we wont get our figurines!!!

[Halt]

I personaly dont care, figured someone on here would like to know. Im just glad im getting the second disc and the in-game content. :razz:

[prophetik]

Fable isnt a jrpg...

and yes, I meant Meter Polynox, not game company


and o noes we wont get our figurines!!!

don't troll, dumbass, if you don't care about the thread, get out.

has anyone here been playing the pub games a lot? i've been doing poorly at them, myself.

[Halt]

has anyone here been playing the pub games a lot? i've been doing poorly at them, myself.

Cant afford to buy them at the moment, but the demo is oddly difficult. O_o. But hey, id imagine there good for some quick gold when your in a pinch.

[Genjutsu74]

Cant afford to buy them at the moment, but the demo is oddly difficult. O_o. But hey, id imagine there good for some quick gold when your in a pinch.

...They're supposed to be a bonus with the preorder. You got screwed.

And I've already gotten everything, including achievements, from the pub games, with a cool 42,000 gold to spare.

As far as how...well...I think I was just really lucky with the spinnerbox. I didn't exploit that infamous glitch, however.

[Halt]

...They're supposed to be a bonus with the preorder. You got screwed.

And I've already gotten everything, including achievements, from the pub games, with a cool 42,000 gold to spare.

As far as how...well...I think I was just really lucky with the spinnerbox. I didn't exploit that infamous glitch, however.

They ran out of codes as far as I heard, and I ordered from Newegg. so I dont know. and dont much care. I didnt buy the pub games yet. only dled the demo.

[prophetik]

As far as how...well...I think I was just really lucky with the spinnerbox. I didn't exploit that infamous glitch, however.

wait, glitch?

[Halt]

Yeah, theres some glitch out there, read about it on Lionheads forums. people getting millions of gold xD.

I didnt really get shafted. I was told they ran out of codes from the community forums. I dont buy games very often, so its not a big deal throwing what? $20 to get a few silly pub games. oh boy, i didnt get a free xbl arcade game. xD ill be like the rest of the world who didnt get it, and just buy it when i feel like it. Frankly, all i care about is the LE content :P

[prophetik]

anyone seen video diary 7 yet? it came out on the 2nd, and there's some solid footage about the sound effects and comopsitional content of the game's music. interesting comments on the lead sound designer's take on the soundtrack in the game.

[Jarvi]

wait, glitch?

I know there was one glitch where you bet the minimum amount, but then before it actually starts, you raise the bet to the max. It only takes money at the minimum amount, but you'll win as if you had bet the max amount.

[prophetik]

that sounds good to me. i might as well give it a shot.

[prophetik]

and...it's in my hands.

IT'S IN MY HANDS

[Halt]

Mine should be here sometime today. Newegg shafted me, so i went to Amazon, ^^ They sent it out yesterday, and i had release date shipping. Along with Fable 2. I have to keep on track with studying for my College Entrance Test lmfao.

Gamer Tag: Magnum Rage

Add me if you like.

[Zombie]

I WANT THIS GAME.

I hate school. :-(

[tgfoo]

If you haven't bought the game yet, you can get a free $15 itunes card with it if you buy it from Circuit City... and if you're lucky they'll give you a random $15 discount on top of that. Man I love unexpected (and most likely accidental) discounts. Now only if work was over...

[Azure Prower]

Why isn't there more being added to this thread? Oh, every one is too busy playing Fable 2? Yes. Yes it is that awesome.

[prophetik]

i've commented a bit in the 360 thread, but i've been BUSY.

[Archaon]

You know what's stupid? You kill a trader and the best you get from it is a handful of gold, even if you've just paid him an exorbitant amount of money for some new gear or a stack of potions. And that says nothing of his stock, which apparently just vanishes into thin air.

You might say it'd unbalance the game if you got everything a trader was holding upon killing them, but you know what? They didn't care about game balance. Physical Shield exists, and that is evidence enough. Also, I can play a childishly simple card pairs game in the very first town for about fifteen minutes and I'll end up with more money than I will ever, EVER need.

Card pairs. Do you know why you won't go into a casino and find a card pairs table? BECAUSE THAT CASINO WOULD GET CLEANED THE HELL OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. There would be people camping outside the doors for weeks just to get their chance at taking that place's money.

Because there is no element of chance involved in card pairs, so technically it's not even gambling. In poker, if you end up with a crap hand, there's really not much you can do about it unless you're some kind of mental puppeteer who can psych everyone else at the table out and make them fold. No matter how good you are at card counting in blackjack, sometimes that dealer will just end up with 21 right off the bat. CARD PAIRS? All skill, and it's not a hard skill to get the hang of either.

You know what else is stupid? The law enforcement. Christ on a bicycle, the law enforcement. I mean, you can literally massacre an entire village down to the last man, woman and...well, not child, because you can't kill children in this game, (but apparently beating the shit out of them is A-OK) but nevertheless, all you have to do is leave for a few minutes and suddenly all is forgiven and forgotten. Nobody. Cares. And as long as you didn't knock your alignment too far down, the guards will merrily continue telling you to "Have yourself a nice day."

It's not like you even have to run far away either. You can just stand on the road that leads into the village, right next to the entrance. As long as you're not actually in the "area", it doesn't matter. Just...what. It was hardly even worth making this part of the game. They might as well have just said "OK, Heroes have the legal right to butcher anyone and everyone as they please," for all the difference it would have made.

You know what else is stupid? The plot. Just...the plot, in general. I hardly even need to say anything. If you've played the game, you know. Like, is there some reason why Jack wanted to destroy the world, or was he just being a dick? Sure, Kefka did it, but at least the game allowed you to see enough of his character for you to know that he was some batshit nihilist. Jack doesn't give that vibe. You don't get much of anything from Jack. His outfit is kind of cool, but otherwise it's like he's just some perfectly ordinary dude who incidentally wants to set the world on fire. It doesn't add up. There's a difference between adding an element of mystery to a character and just not giving them a personality, guys.

Is there some reason why Maze took me in and let me spend however many years being a hero instead of taking me to Jack when I was a still kid and I couldn't have kicked his ass? Is there some reason why I don't get to know who the villain is until after I've been poncing around for the first three-quarters of the game, thus removing any reason for me to care?

And what kind of way was that to escape from prison? The Warden makes the inmates have a race on his birthday so that he can read poetry to the winner? WERE THEY TRYING TO MAKE THIS PART RETARDED? Why couldn't I have just beaten one of the guards up and taken their sword? Grabbed one of those sharp torture implements that I was standing right in front of and sliced their throat? It's not like I wasn't capable of it at that stage of the game. Or better yet, why'd I have to get captured in the first place? I could totally have taken Jack on, especially in that confined space where he has no room to run away like a pansy.

And why is it that I get "good points" for killing anything that isn't an innocent person? What is so inherently righteous about shooting a wasp with an arrow? It's like the game just assumes that every time you kill an enemy, you're doing it to cleanse Albion of the evil that plagues it, rather than because they swung first and you want to loot their corpse. It gets to the point where (if you're trying to play evil) you're killing all the traders you come across on the roads just to balance out all the good points you got from killing everything else, rather than out of any real malevolence.

And just how the hell is it that I can go from eighteen to sixty-five years old in the space of a few hours and yet nobody and nothing else IN THE ENTIRE WORLD ages so much as a day?

And why does every weapon that isn't a sword suck? Seriously, with the exception of legendary weapons, you literally have no reason not to use a katana. What's that? You think a mace or an axe is cooler? Well tough shit, because they don't do as much damage. Probably because all the attack animations are the same, so half the time you end up trying to stab someone with your blunt weapon. You idiot.

And they'd better have improved that godawful, uninspired soundtrack.

And can we have an ending that lasts for more than five seconds this time? Or at least don't have that and then make us sit through a twenty minute credit sequence just to keep playing after the final boss.

And if I hear one more exaggerated Irish or Birmingham accent I am going to strangle someone.

GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE I GOT AN XBOX FOR THIS.

Basically Fable II had better be a hell of a lot better. And even then I probably still won't get it because I don't have a 360 HAW HAW HAW.

[prophetik]

i thought the first game was pretty good. so did like several thousand other people, that's why it got bad reviews and still sold a lot.

would have helped if you had mentioned that fable 1 was the purpose of this rant.

[TehDonut]

yeah lol, some of those stuff didn't change from the first game.
the plot is probably the only thing i can complain about, but the villain in fable 2 is clear from the start, so at least you know what your goal is.
there's really no way to abuse money making, you're gonna have to actually work at it to get nice gear cause most of the weapons that you buy are expensive as hell.. unless you abused the fable 2 pub games glitch and have 9 billion gold, or use the gay date changing glitch.
law enforcement still kinda sucks. each villager is apparently worth only 500 gold.
soundtrack is kinda nice....though there are only a few tracks that get repeated that plays if you enter any cave/dungeon.
the thing that bothers me the most though is the battle system...you can't aim anymore =(
instead, you get this sub-targetting thing where you can basically choose which part you wanna shoot. no skill involved. so you just pick up the fricken imba gun from the (semi-spoiler) westcliff shooting range and basically decapitate a group of 10 bandits you see in 1-2 shots each in about 6 seconds. yeah, they fixed the magic system, it's not so broken now, but they also made melee weapons useless, and ranged weapons farrrr too strong.

[Avatar of Justice]

I watched a friend play this over the weekend and found it unimpressive despite initially liking the character customization. The combat seems fine, I just didn't like the simplicity of the social interactions. Most people can't really speak to you, all you can do is dance and fart at them or something. The speed at which my friend's character got married was kind of silly. I was expecting some kind of elaborate courting, but all he had to do was dance at her. I would like to see a Japanese company take the knowledge they've gained from dating games and apply it to this kind of game to get something a little more story and personality driven. The game world doesn't feel stupid only if you view all the interactions as abstractions of real social interactions.

[Reaif]

So yeah, I've been babysitting my friend's 360, and happen to have a copy of Fable 2 with me. I didn't play the first one, so I have no idea really about the differences.

At first, I watched someone else play it, and it was kind of boring, but now when I play it, I find that I really like to explore the world and find all the treasure that is lurking around. The story isn't bad, though the girl's voice (the one that tells you everything you could want to know and more) gets a little annoying. The golden trail thingy is nice IMO, because you can instantly tell where not to go if you want to get all the treasure ASAP. I do indeed like buying property and making money just by sitting around. I chose to be evil, and It's fun to make people fall in love with you and then do something mean to them.

I have been really taking my time with this game, mostly because I love treasure, and have been enjoying it quite a bit.

As far as the music goes, it is way too ambient (sp?) and it gets old real quick.

[sgx]

I beat the game today. It was generally pretty sweet. I'm probably going to play through again if LittleBigPlanet doesn't take up all my time.

I loved the combat. It is super fun. The gunplay is great. I had this Steel flintlock pistol for like 3/4 the game. It shot so fast. I'd just zoom, hold L, flick up on the left stick and wail on people getting headhots. It was very visceral. Also, I would do a time slow, then charge up to high level lightning. Very nice :)!

I was playing as a chick and I was trying to make her hot, but that's tough when you get stronger because it makes you, big, thick, and musclely.

The dog is awesome - wish I could put kickass dog armor on him! He's pretty impressive in terms of AI, animation, and pathfinding. It's awesome how he'll usually run up ahead of you, just like my dog does when I walk him through the woods without a leash on.

The game was pretty funny at times, it generally looked pretty good, sound was good, and I really liked working towards getting more money, getting new skills. I played it till 7 am on sat night without knowing.

Some things bugged me though: The climax sucked. There's like this slight blur filter on everything that basically just makes it look like my LCD TV has a shitty response time and annoys the hell out of me. Loading was semi slow, and the amount of traveling you do makes you see the loading screen a lot.

There aren't really that many locations or environments. I don't really feel like I traveled around the world questing...more like I traveled around one country. Environments were like, hills, marshes, fields, towns....and that's about it. What about snowy mountains, jungles, deserts, etc.

Back to making my chick hot, I really didn't find much stuff to wear, and not much cool stuff. There weren't a ton of weapons and guns either.

The menus are slow and cumbersome. The hotkeys on the D-pad were retarded most of the time. Sometimes it would let me use a potion or sometimes it would let me eat some food, never had the choice and sometimes it wouldn't let me do either.

I wish there was a good map. The sparkly trail is nice, but a GTA style map would have done the trick much better. I really have no idea how the world is put together because I was never able to really see a good map of where things were.


Well, I really hope there is a Fable 3 in a couple years on xbox360. If they can make it bigger, give us back the map, and maybe modify the engine so it can stream environments, the game would be freakin' awesome.

[Azure Prower]

I beat the game today. It was generally pretty sweet.
I loved the combat. It is super fun. The gunplay is great. I had this Steel flintlock pistol for like 3/4 the game. It shot so fast. I'd just zoom, hold L, flick up on the left stick and wail on people getting headhots. It was very visceral. Also, I would do a time slow, then charge up to high level lightning. Very nice :)!

Some things bugged me though: The climax sucked. Loading was semi slow, and the amount of traveling you do makes you see the loading screen a lot.

What about snowy mountains, jungles, deserts, etc.

The menus are slow and cumbersome. The hotkeys on the D-pad were retarded most of the time. Sometimes it would let me use a potion or sometimes it would let me eat some food, never had the choice and sometimes it wouldn't let me do either.

Well, I really hope there is a Fable 3 in a couple years on xbox360. If they can make it bigger, give us back the map, and maybe modify the engine so it can stream environments, the game would be freakin' awesome.

First off. Stop copying my play style. Time Control, level 5 lightning shock and then picking off the rest with the flint pistol for the win (but then again, the red dragon pistol is much better once I won it)! Hehe.

Second. You pretty much sum up nearly all my gripes about the game. The ending sucked hard, that was my main let down. The game is great, but it was really weak for a "final boss" solution. Menu did get annoying after a while, was too slow and sluggish in response. Loading was a bit much, should of just removed quick travel all together cause you'd just keep using that and have load screen after load screen. Would prolong the game for the better.

I sort of liked having no map. I did miss it. But rather have my portable treasure detector instead, its so cute. Having no map did help in setting up ambushes and making secret path ways more secret though. There is actually a small snow part, a winter lodge behind the bloodstone demon door. It's pretty cool, must check it out. :)

I'm thinking that they are going to do to Fable 2 what Lost Chapters did for Fable. Only it is probably going to be download content maybe? I would hope so. Make the final villain revive into a hollow man or some thing and make it as epic of a boss as the dragon in lost chapters.

[Toadofsky]

You know what else is stupid? The law enforcement. Christ on a bicycle, the law enforcement. I mean, you can literally massacre an entire village down to the last man, woman and...well, not child, because you can't kill children in this game, (but apparently beating the shit out of them is A-OK) but nevertheless, all you have to do is leave for a few minutes and suddenly all is forgiven and forgotten. Nobody. Cares. And as long as you didn't knock your alignment too far down, the guards will merrily continue telling you to "Have yourself a nice day."

It's not like you even have to run far away either. You can just stand on the road that leads into the village, right next to the entrance. As long as you're not actually in the "area", it doesn't matter. Just...what. It was hardly even worth making this part of the game. They might as well have just said "OK, Heroes have the legal right to butcher anyone and everyone as they please," for all the difference it would have made.


You do realize it's just a game, friend? I do see your point in some of these things on Fable 1 especially what you said about the story. But oh, come on, it's just a game.

[prophetik]

i picked up a master katana and a master turret rifle right away, and i've been kicking the bejesus out of everything in the game recently. it's pretty awesome.

[Azure Prower]

I didn't like the turret rifle. The reload time is shit and comes at the worst times. Mass of hollow men rushing towards you, bang! bang! bang! bang! click click click..... shit. AHHHHH!

Pistol with near instant reloads? Hell yeah!

[prophetik]

i didn't like the pistol - i use long-range stuff way more than shotgun-style usage.

[Archaon]

Why.

The hell.

Can't I use two pistols.

[Azure Prower]

Why.

The hell.

Can't I use two pistols.

Because you need one hand to reload.

[Archaon]

I'd be fully prepared to deal with the awkwardness of having to holster one pistol, reload, then holster the other one and reload again just for the badass burst of dual pistol massacre.

[Bigfoot]

Because you need one hand to reload.

But you should be able to dual-wield with the Halo suit.

j/k

[Reaif]

I have to admit, it is easy to spend a lot of time in this game. So much crap you can do... Gargoyles, family life (kind of disturbing to do same gender match ups), jobs and minigames, hunting for treasure, real estate... I think last night was my record for the most sleep in a night this week. I actually got 4.5 (went to bed at 4) hours this time, unlike the night before when I stayed up until 8 am, and the night before when I stayed up till 7. I feel kind of guilty for putting so much time in actually.

On a different note, and as a matter of curiosity, is there a particular kind of gun that anyone could recommend for the shooting game in Westcliff? I can't seem to get 1st place on it. I always get 150 and 160 points with my (can't remember exact name) multi load crossbow. I have so many of those dang dolls now lol.

Oh yeah and someone mentioned being a girl and having a hard time staying attractive right? I have found that it isn't too hard if you just stay away from foods that make you fat, and getting all the attractive upgrades (clothes, makeup and other similar things)

Edit: Thought I would mention just for the heck of it, that I have 30 or 31 out of 50 gargoyles. And I haven't even gone to the Spire yet.

[Sporknight]

I'd be fully prepared to deal with the awkwardness of having to holster one pistol, reload, then holster the other one and reload again just for the badass burst of dual pistol massacre.

Didn't Roland the Gunslinger (King's Dark Tower series- read it) have an effective way to reload 2 revolvers at once? I think it was something where he kept the gun on his finger, flipped it back, grabbed the bullets from his chest holder thing (bandoleer?) and reloaded it. I could be totally wrong though - it's been a while since I've read that series.

[Azure Prower]

On a different note, and as a matter of curiosity, is there a particular kind of gun that anyone could recommend for the shooting game in Westcliff? I can't seem to get 1st place on it. I always get 150 and 160 points with my (can't remember exact name) multi load crossbow. I have so many of those dang dolls now lol.

Best is the flintlock pistol. Because it is single shot and reloads almost immediately. I beat the challenge with that type of gun. With multishot guns. The reload time is a bitch. Flintlock reloads as fast as you can swap to the next head shot.

Took me a while to get 1st prize too. But the dolls come in handy to trade for the other 6 if you have live. Have fun doing that though. But the trick for the shooting range is get as many head shots as fast as you can. The 3rd round is actually easiest to do so as they are closer together as well as nearer to you; making them bigger targets. Practice flicking the control movement stick and quickly shooting for the head shot.

P.S. Holding the Y button down is a bitch on the hand. My fingers were sore by the time I got the first prize.

[Reaif]

Yay I finally did it. I used the turret pistol actually, and it worked pretty well. I did it before doing the Spire,and it was definitely worth it for the awesome bonus gun. A funny thing here though, is that my friend saw that I did it, and then wanted me to do it on his save. At first I said no freaking way, but I did decide to give it go however and because it was post-spire shooting game, you were supposed to shoot the bandits. I did it for him on my first try with 190 points. Kind of shocking how much easier it is.