64 bit

[Smenelian]

Let's say I am running a 64 bit operating system and have a 64 bit sequencer which I use to load a 32 bit sampler plugin. If I use the 4 GB of RAM allowed by 32 bit applications, can I just load another sampler and use another 4 GB of RAM with it and so on? This is assuming I have enough RAM to do this of course.

[zircon]

Well, first of all the only 64 bit host that supports 32 bit plugins is Sonar. Second, I believe the 4gb memory addressing space is shared by ALL 32 bit plugins so unfortunately you can't just instantiate multiple versions.

[SnappleMan]

Well, first of all the only 64 bit host that supports 32 bit plugins is Sonar.

well, first of all, no. Cubase 4 x64.

[Sixto]

well, first of all, no. Cubase 4 x64.

I know Nuendo is working 64bit, but I thought Cubase 4 was still just a preview.

[zircon]

Yeah, I can't find any info about a legit, full, non-beta/preview release of a 64bit Cubase.

[dannthr]

You'll be better off running your 32bit samplers as standalones alongside the sequencer and bussing your audio through a virtual mixing bus.

[Skummel Maske]

..are there any compatibility issues when it comes to sequencers and Vista 64? I've got Vista 64 on my new computer, and I've only installed Guitar Rig this far (which has some performance issues, glitching and high CPU usage). I'm out of town for a few days, so I won't get to test it until sometime next week.

[zircon]

Yes, there are issues with some software/hardware and Vista64. Some, because it's Vista. Others, because it's a 64bit OS. Unfortunately you just need to search for every individual piece of software to check for compatibility, or try it yourself. Some work perfectly, other's don't.

[big giant circles]

wouldn't it be great to just fast-forward to a few years from now when (hopefully) the 64-bit issue will be resolved and every program is supported, and you can use giant amounts of RAM?

*sigh*

[Skummel Maske]

So it would, so it would. I've had a closer look at Sonar though, it seems to be an easy transition from Cubase, *and* properly compatible?

[Smenelian]

You'll be better off running your 32bit samplers as standalones alongside the sequencer and bussing your audio through a virtual mixing bus.

Can I do this with FL Studio?

[GarretGraves]

Call me crazy, but I didn't enjoy Cubase all that well when I had it. I couldn't really do everything I wanted. I found it easier using Audition.

[big giant circles]

in before snapplerant

[SnappleMan]

In RIGHT before snapplerant, good move! :D

Cubase 4 64bit is in preview mode because they're not planning to update it. They're gonna wait to "officially" announce 64 bit Cubase with version 5. Either way, the "preview" version is 100% legit, complete and works flawlessly. It's just a 64 bit version of the latest (and probably last) Cubase 4 release. I use both 32 and 64bit versions of both Cubase and Sonar, but Sonar is not officially supported in WinXP 64 so I am having a ton of problems with it. Conversely Cubase 64 is only supported in WinXP 64, so there's another reason they're calling it a preview, guess they're working on a vista version.

[Sixto]

Well shit. I was going to get Cubase Studio 4 to use in Vista 64. What a bummer.

[SnappleMan]

No, wait, I made a mistake, Cubase 4 64bit works in Vista64. But vista itself is a steaming pile of FLStudio so I switched back to XP.

[Steffan Andrews]

Second, I believe the 4gb memory addressing space is shared by ALL 32 bit plugins so unfortunately you can't just instantiate multiple versions.

Correct.

In order to use more than 4GB (which actually translates to a little over 3GB of usable memory for the process) there's a few options, as was mentioned.

- Run a second VST Host on the same machine (using LaaTiDo if it's not LA aware) such as Reaper, Bidule, or the ill-fated V-Stack. Depending on your audio driver, it may or may not cooperate. I've had varying degrees of success on different audio interfaces.

- A potentially simpler and more elegant solution, just use ReWire. I haven't tested this on x64, but in theory you can use something like Bidule or Reaper in rewire mode, and because it's its own process, it can load an additional 3.5GB of memory.