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halc
10-29-2008, 06:07 AM
http://www.tindeck.com/audio/image/b/pvxx (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my/pvxx/halc---First-Time-on-Outset)

a chippy take on the Outset Island theme from Wind Waker, now complete and ready to submit

Xenon Odyssey
10-29-2008, 03:42 PM
I figure this isn't a straight chiptune with all the drums and whatnot.

I really like the feel you have here. I don't know about some of the notes in the ambient swirls at 0:49, but that may just be personal taste. I love the counter-melody from 1:12 to 1:19.

Depending on where you go with this, I would lower the cymbals at 1:29 and have them crescendo until they stop at 1:37. Or possibly make them less frequent throughout that time. Nice sound effects with the song there btw.

Good stuff! I look forward to updated versions.

halc
10-29-2008, 03:57 PM
thanks for the comments, I will continue to post future revisions. and yeah, this isn't a "conventional" chiptune, everything was written in FL, most of the synths and NES kits are VST.

Spakku
10-29-2008, 09:36 PM
That ending left me hanging. Really badly.

halc
10-29-2008, 11:00 PM
That ending left me hanging. Really badly.

I noted on my first post that this is a work-in-progress.

Xenon Odyssey
10-29-2008, 11:25 PM
I noted on my first post that this is a work-in-progress.

I'm pretty sure it was more of a "we want more please" than a disregard for your message ;)

halc
10-29-2008, 11:39 PM
my apologies if that is the case, my social internet skillz are lacking

and thank you for the appreciation

EDIT: you wanted more, you can have a little more

http://www.tindeck.com/audio/image/b/gyix (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my/gyix/halcyon---First-Time-on-Outset-v2)(version2)

Xenon Odyssey
10-30-2008, 01:49 AM
I like the drum fade-in at 1:52, as well as the chord syncopation at 0:52-0:54.

Nothing really else to say, other than I look forward to seeing where you take this, and I'll probably have this on loop for a while.

MrSneak
10-30-2008, 02:58 AM
This song is the song of champions.
That means I love it.
A great tune from the original and I'm thrilled to see it tributed thusly. Seriously, I dig this with a back-hoe. Finish it, give it to judges, etc. This is musical Zeldanic (it's a word) gold.

DJMetal
10-30-2008, 03:13 AM
For me this tune really gets rolling at 0:46. The background chiptune sound that starts at 0:29 and repeats every two-ish seconds until 0:46 with a break between 0:35-0:38 really gets to me. Probably personal preference, but it sounds too hard and throws the groove of the track off. But man, after it gets going, you have one catchy song going. Gotta say I like it.

Edit: Just listened to the original, and I really like how well you've transferred orchestration back to chiptune.

chthonic
10-31-2008, 09:42 PM
dig it dig it

the sound :26 is playing some wrong notes

the sound at :35 is a little too loud, or a lot too loud, either way it's too loud

the arpeggios that enter at :46... maybe you could try those an octave down

the breakdown is pretty good, but it could use some melody

LOVE the kick drum btw

but, I think your non-chip drums are getting lazier because you're focusing more on the chip drums... don't forget all the crazy sounds you can make with your standard drum samples; they're a huge a part of your sound

fun fact for everyone: he made this remix using my computer at my apartment :o

Xenon Odyssey
10-31-2008, 10:01 PM
fun fact for everyone: he made this remix using my computer at my apartment :o

I'm still waiting for you two to finish your Tal Tal Heights collab (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14795)

halc
10-31-2008, 10:09 PM
I'm still waiting for you two to finish your Tal Tal Heights collab (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14795)

if you saw how disorganized that flp was you would puke

chthonic
11-01-2008, 12:36 AM
if you saw how disorganized that flp was you would puke
we're talking uncontrollable projectile vomit

Xenon Odyssey
11-01-2008, 02:18 AM
That is a true shame. Hopefully you guys will do something more organized in the future.

chthonic
11-01-2008, 11:14 AM
That is a true shame. Hopefully you guys will do something more organized in the future.
don't worry about that

*has a secret*

chanq
11-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Man, you've just GOT to keep working on this one! I already love it and can't wait til you've come up with an ending.

Nice work! :nicework:

MrSneak
11-03-2008, 06:44 AM
I was just giving this another listen (because I love it), and I wondered if you could loop the tune around again but add in a new lead instrument on top. Like, maybe even a harmonica or a banjo. The whole track is already delightful and surprising, I think throwing in something like that would be really unexpected, but at the same time, it would really contribute to the overall feel of it.

I guess what I'm really saying is, I like it so much, I want it to keep going. And as most people would expect, I'd like to hear some more progression if you decide to loop it. It'd give you an opportunity to throw in a bridge and do some original writing too.

I gotta say at about the 3/4 mark of the track, it climaxes so well, but then as it boils down it still feels fresh and inviting. I really love this mix.

Invader_Quirk
11-04-2008, 05:00 PM
I absolutely love it. It's incredibly upbeat and really makes me happy... until it abruptly ends. Pleeeasse finish it soon!

halc
11-07-2008, 09:31 PM
Thanks for all the comments, I just uploaded a new version

http://www.tindeck.com/audio/image/b/vnvf (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my/vnvf/halcyon---First-Time-on-Outset-v3)

The new stuff still needs to be fleshed out, keep looking out for updates

Jewbei
11-07-2008, 10:48 PM
i remember when you showed me the earlier version of this over aim and i praised the hell outta it and now hearing the more updated version i must man im loving this. You've come a long way and its good that ive been able to watch you grow since your VGMix 2.0 days. I still wish you had finished your tal tal mountain mix. but yeah the only thing this mix is lacking some nice full string pads like really lush. but this mix is really upbeat kinda reminds me of some of my stuff but it has that nice ass hip hop-ish flow. i really hope you finish this so i can add this to the rest of your songs on my mp3 player. keep me posted!

progressive
11-11-2008, 03:02 AM
I had my doubts until 1:03 when the melody came in. After that, it gets really good, really quickly. 1:38 to the end is gold. I would hold the beginning "get item" sound effect out a little bit longer like it sounds in-game so you get the mix off on a more deliberate note. The first minute is a little too "OK, I'm slowly layering this so it all sounds great later on." I think it should be able to support its own weight a little better. I know you can do it because the rest is an exercise in greatness.

I'm also in agreement here that you could easily do with another minute/minute-half or so. Good luck - I think this will join the ranks of Star Salzman's 'Duck Blur' and Mario Galaxy's 'Gusty Garden' in their innate ability to make anyone smile. :)

Invader_Quirk
11-12-2008, 07:44 PM
The new version is at least three times as awesome as the last one. I'm so psyched for this to be done!

Blackwinged Saron
11-14-2008, 10:47 AM
We got a winner!

I agree with Tappy. I unconsciously start rocking my head to this. It's just so fun. Its sound is more like what I'd expect to be playing from Beedles boat but it works for Outset too. WAIT thats IT!!! It sounds like a techno ice cream truck! its that reverb sound that you hear when the truck is like 4 streets over and you know your street is next. YAY! memories.

trivia: name my movie reference in this post and get a cookie.

DJMetal
11-18-2008, 01:34 AM
I'm really liking how this is shaping up. V3 is excellent, and that added 43 seconds is solid stuff in my opinion. From 2:04 to 2:21 sounds a little empty...there doesn't feel like much is going on there. It fits with the progression of the mix, and I'm not sure what I'd put in there give that little bit a richer feel, but it just feel like something should go there...I dunno. The rest of it, though, is pure sweetness. Especially the new ending.

Berty200
11-18-2008, 09:45 PM
I love this! Yeah, the beginning could be bit more exciting.... maybe add some melody in there, fading...

MrSneak
11-19-2008, 07:40 PM
I find myself coming back to this thread just to listen to this tune, like 3 or 4 times a week. I'm so tempted to just download and keep a copy of what you have now, but I trust that you'll make it even better! I'm very excited to hear your progress.

halc
11-19-2008, 09:32 PM
I find myself coming back to this thread just to listen to this tune, like 3 or 4 times a week. I'm so tempted to just download and keep a copy of what you have now, but I trust that you'll make it even better! I'm very excited to hear your progress.

Thank you so much for all the praise! - and have no fear, this one is gonna be good. I may upload a new version sometime soon, but the track is coming near completion anyway so I may just wait until then.

halc
11-23-2008, 06:07 PM
double post, i know

but this needed a bump for
http://www.tindeck.com/audio/image/b/xsha (http://www.tindeck.com/audio/my/xsha/halcyon---First-Time-on-Outset-v4)

this is almost finished :razz: I will post the final version on here prior to submitting

BE PREPARED!!!



also, check out my debut mix on the front page or click here (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01780/)!
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Xenon Odyssey
11-23-2008, 07:20 PM
I like the added ambience of the static at the beginning; 8-bit ocean waves, amirite?

I REALLY like the build-up at 2:09, leading to the PHAT bass at 2:22.

This is golden; I'm anxious to see what you do to cap the mix off at the end.

Spakku
11-23-2008, 08:15 PM
This has really evolved a lot since your first post. It's quite glorious.

SSB
11-24-2008, 03:49 AM
I don't really have a lot to add. Just saying I think this is awesome.

Aninymouse
11-24-2008, 04:40 AM
Can't wait 'til I can add this one to my collection~

Zombie
11-25-2008, 02:43 AM
This is awesome! I'm totally diggin it.

SubNormal J3
11-25-2008, 03:39 AM
This is a very unexpected take on the Outset theme. I like it a lot, though.

The synth sounds fit the part very well.
There's a nice build up at :40
at 1:03 comes the nice lead
some sweet arps at 1:20
a nice melody at 1:38
nice rhythm at 1:47
and then 2:30 falls short of its predecessors

Basically, what I noticed as I listened was that the song was amazing from about :40 or so until around 2:30. The problem is the intro and the ending. Perhaps more use of the chord structures of the melody might help in these sections without giving away the melody yet. Also keep in mind that in the game, this melody is sung clear and loud with very little intro or ending. Don't be afraid to do more of that in this mix.

Overall, there is a lot going for this mix. Just fix up those beginning and ending sections.

-J3

PF the Kitsune
11-29-2008, 08:43 AM
AMAZING

I should've posted in here sooner, but ah well. I've been following this since the first version popped up. I loved what it was then, and I love what its become now.

Can't wait till the final version is out.

SynthesizedStampede
11-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Gawd I want this mix to get finished so badly, I really like it! Like everyone mentioned before, you can't help but feel lighthearted while listening to this mix: it's very cheery. I can totally picture this song playing in a 2D remake of WW haha.

Good stuff, wish I had the skills to help you out technically but alas, my talent is limited.

MrSneak
12-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Okay, I'm seeing a bunch of Windwaker remixes on the front page of the WIPs, and this isn't one of them. What has this mix been doing? I'm going through withdrawls, I need to know!

halc
01-05-2009, 11:07 PM
alrighty, here it is - First Time on Outset (http://tindeck.com/audio/my/pvxx/halc---First-Time-on-Outset) (complete)

may have actually lost a tiny bit of length, but i think it feels complete and will be submitting very soon.

thanks for all the comments along the way, and enjoy!

Hylian Lemon
01-05-2009, 11:28 PM
So I pretty much love this. Good luck!

Xenon Odyssey
01-06-2009, 12:36 AM
BOUT DAMN TIME

Love the added backgrounds at :44

Wasn't expecting the ending, but it works, and I dig!

Rophell
01-06-2009, 03:52 AM
When do you sub? This sounds like a really fun song, god job.

Gollgagh
01-06-2009, 04:02 AM
god job indeed

I really need to check wip more often for stuff like this

halc
01-06-2009, 05:26 AM
When do you sub? This sounds like a really fun song, god job.

god job is right (edit: yeah gollgagh beat me to that one.)

i already have two mixes in the queue (btw one of them is a collab (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19814)), so i'll be subbing this once either of them hit the panel.

Ferret
01-06-2009, 05:26 PM
I can honestly say I'm impressed with this. What you're doing here is quite different from what I was expecting and that, sir, is a good thing.

PhiJayy
01-06-2009, 06:03 PM
This is pretty cool...glad it's finish.

yeah if you haven't already submit this bad boy.

K.B.
01-07-2009, 11:22 PM
god job is right (edit: yeah gollgagh beat me to that one.)
Not yet, you and chthonic still need that direct post.

i already have two mixes in the queue (btw one of them is a collab (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19814)), so i'll be subbing this once either of them hit the panel.
Haha... now your fans have to wait until Marihana passes! May the schwartz be with you.

And oh yeah, nice mix. Wasn't digging it at first, like always, but, like always, the chippiness infected me. Makes me do left/right head-nodding with the beat. I even smiled once. Not many songs make me that happy :p.

M W
01-08-2009, 08:40 PM
I'll be very happy once this remix gets in. It will be a darn shame if it doesn't since the final version sounds so wonderful.

In the very least, it's certainly overclocked.