OCR00231 - Doom 'Doomed'

[m68030]

Nice. Clean distortion. hah. who'da thunk. Slow and brooding. Someone
is about to die, and it looks like it's you. That lead instrument is just
haunting. I like it.

[Ebonyks]

IMO, a bit heavy on the distortion, but the mix still works well. It's just so difficult to describe this mix, it's beautiful in a bizzare, undescrible way

[glaximus]

This is hands down one of my favorite pieces on the site. What you've created from the original piece is amazing. It stirs a sense of total awe: the feeling of discovery, mixed with the lingering sensation that those far more powerful than you have fallen treading the same path you are right now. Once the actual melody starts (around 2 minutes), the way it seems to just flow and meander over the soft beat in the background brings to mind pictures of tremendous, subtle power- like a mournful conflict with an angelic force, something terrible that you've tried to avoid at all costs, but couldn't.

I've used this tune as background music during my weekly dungeons and dragons sessions, combined with the description of the scene it inspired exactly what I needed into the players.

Bottom Line:

This is an excellent, excellent work that crackles with a subtle power and paints a mood like few other pieces can.

[Liontamer]

Rimco's "Doomed E1L8 Boss" is a favorite of mine that simply has a wonderfully melodic, somber, and deliberate feel to it. The eerie style of the Mix made me listen longer and longer, and, like I always say, brought a uniqueness to the picture that was hard to ignore. While the track builds, it doesn't build too loudly, so this is one of those tracks you can put on if you feel like just having background music in your ears, like Hazama's "Reminiscence (Deep Sleep)" from Genso Suikoden 2. I never played Doom, but I certainly feel this track should be tried out by just about everyone.

[Nexxus]

8O Awesome, this is the music that should come right after you end up dying in the shareware DOOM on this very level.

Hands down the best song here. Simply amazing. Heck I would love to hear this thing play in the DOOM movie (if there ever will be one) say-for the credits.

[playingtokrush]

Oh my God. I can point out the scars that this song has given me in its routine kickings of my ass. I first heard this on Rimco's site, before it was hosted at OCR, and I still listen to it today. And it still tears me a new asshole.

[bloodydust]

8O Awesome, this is the music that should come right after you end up dying in the shareware DOOM on this very level.

i dunno dude, that creepy endtheme that's already there is perfect.

Hands down the best song here. Simply amazing. Heck I would love to hear this thing play in the DOOM movie (if there ever will be one) say-for the credits.

it would make a nice credits theme alright.

doom movie... god, if they did make a movie please don't make it suck... and for crying out sideways don't put some mallrock freak on to write the soundtrack. i'm still pissed about manson and RE.

[TheCore]

Amazing. Beats Gothic Sandy and all the rest.

So much mood to this song, it's fantastic! GJ!

[AnotherOneBitesTheDust]

:arrow: You will download now
:arrow: If you do not like doom music, you will download now
:arrow: If you worship doom music, you will download now
:arrow: If you don't feel like downloading it, you WILL DOWNLOAD IT
:arrow: if your speed is 1 byte per second, you will download now
:arrow: If you hate ambience, you will download this
:arrow: If you hate melody, you will download this (and you should be ashamed of yourself)

You will download this song.

All my friends will download it or have it shoved in their face and they will like it, even if at one point they didn't feel like downloading it.

They will hear it, and so will you.

I'm seriously loving Doom remixes.

[PerLichtman]

What Rimco has created here is a masterpiece that transcends genres and pre-conceptions. The piece has an emotive power completely seperate from the song that spawned it (though those familiar with the original should have no trouble recognizing it.) The song does not neccesarily conjure up any images of death, agony or fear (unless you are linking it to the game in your mind.) This piece has a very strong connection to the epic, wonder and fantasy. Listening to this piece can transport you to another realm. I had a romantic relationship begin last summer after the person listened to this song. I know that a lot of people see this song intimately connected to Doom, but I see it as something that should be recognized on it's own. It is one of my favorite pieces of music ever made at any point in time in any genre. Even if some of you should find you do not share this love affair, I doubt that anyone will regret having listened to it. It is soothing, ethereal and powerful.

5 Stars

Per's OCR Star System:
5-One of my favorites.
4- I'll listen to it a fair amount but it lacks that extra "something" to be great.
3- Above average but not enough so to get much playtime in my list.
2- Average
1- Lacking

[ella guro]

Aww...here I come with a non-positive review for a very universally popular OCR remix. I probably just lost even more potential friends or fans or anybody who will like any future remixes I might possibly do or agree with me on any issue. In short, nobody likes a critc.
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ANYWAY
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Here's my issue with this remix:

I love DOOM. Awesome game. So when I discovered this site, naturally this remix was one of the first I downloaded. When I first listened to it, I didn't like it, but I don't like many things the first time so no big deal. I then kicked it off my first remix CD because I didn't think it fit very well. I listened to it some more and still didn't really like it, but then decided to include it on my second CD, figuring it would just take me a bit to get into. I listened to it once or twice on the CD, and now skip over it every time. I just can't get into it.

I dunno what it is...I like the intro, although the remix seems too heavy on distortion and makes it a lot more irratating for me to listen to. But when it gets into the actual melody, it really just doesn't seem like anything special to me. Maybe I don't like the style. I'll take that back - I DON'T like the style. But still, especially when it breaks into that section at about 1:59, I'm not really getting into it. The keyboard part that plays the little repetitive eight notes has always annoyed me a bit, and that's been part of it. Still, it sounds like a horribly distorted orchestra combined with some elevator music stuff...and I just don't dig all the effects with the little waves and really any of the production at all. It's just background music...it doesn't feel real or right, and there's nothing that distinguishes it from any other remix or new age music or anything like that makes it grab my attetion. And for me, that's crucial in a remix.

I guess you could say that this is the opposite of the kind of remix I like. Whatever way you want to say it, I don't like this remix, which proves it's not universal. Sorry for not being nice in the review, but I just don't get this one...and probably never will...

[Spookster]

Hey, at least you didn't say "THIS REMIX SUX!"
Oh, and by the way, this is one of my favorites too.

[PerLichtman]

First of all I'd like to thank Adhesive_Boy for not letting potential alienation deter him from presenting a different viewpoint on Rimco's work. In general I found it to be a valid and well written review that differs a lot from my own. However, there is one section I feel the need to comment on, in the second to last paragraph Adhesive_Boy describes the remix as follows:

"It's just background music...it doesn't feel real or right, and there's nothing that distinguishes it from any other remix or new age music or anything like that ..."

I grew up surrounded by new age music such as Ray Lynch's Deep Breakfast, Enya and Carol Levine and later ventured into such less well known works as Beautiful World. My mentor is Rob Whitesides Woo who is at the head of the new age label Serenity. In other words, I have been inundated with new age music my entire life. I thus find it difficult to agree with the idea that this piece does not distinguish itself from this body of work in any way. First of all, the use of the distortion (which you personally seem to severly dislike) is certainly not prevalent in most of the genre. Second, the piece builds, increasing in energy and coming to an ending in a striking figure as opposed to any fade, etc. This is also not in adherence to the genre. The music seems to be distinguished from other remixes and new age music in many ways by the very things you dislike. I can accept that and certainly would never force you to agree with my viewpoint that this is wonderful piece of music. Nonetheless, I must take issue with the idea that it does not distinguish itself, as I believe a more careful examination of your own words will make clear that it does. I hope this does not deter you from further expressing your viewpoints in the future and that you, nonetheless, keep my comments in mind when writing your next review.

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I grew up surrounded by new age music such as Ray Lynch's Deep Breakfast, Enya and Carol Levine and later ventured into such less well known works as Beautiful World.

Ray Lynch kicks ass! Well, I always liked Deep Breakfast anyway.

[Pyrion]

For some reason I woke up this morning whistling this song and I've been whistling it all day. Just felt like mentioning that. :)

[Agent Spork]

This remix irks me! It absolutely terrifies me, though in a good way! I absolutely loved the music on E1M8 (and various other maps, too.), and this music makes it sound all the more better! Awesome job :)

[01seven]

This rmx is awesome. The dark element is superb and reminds me of just how dark and scary doom games were. I have one complaint and this is gonna go with most of the OCs here anyway. After the intro, the drum and bass could be a bit faster. I think same song sped up in WMP sounded better and has more of an adrenaline rush which all doom games had.

[rchrdcrg]

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you guys who love this song! To the two people who had issues, I will address you now ::grins::

Adhesive_Boy, I thank you for your honesty. This remix was done back when I was still not too proficient with my software, so that sample did get a little out of hand... I wasn't good at getting things to mix yet. Honestly, all of my remixes arise from fits of boredom, so I never take them too seriously. Hopefully you've enjoyed some of my other work... and don't diss the ending to Winds of Time if you've heard it, cuz I don't like it either... I stole the idea from an acid jazz remix someone did, and it worked well there and didn't work so well for me.

01seven, so you want it sped up eh? I've discovered many of my songs sound neat when sped up, including my original ones, but honestly I don't think a tempo increase would fit the mood I was going for with this one... I was going for a sort of creepy yet sleepy sound, but all advice is welcomed. Maybe some day I'll do the "Doomed Energy Mix" or something, lol... you'll be the first to know :wink:

[SILVERWOLF]

the original song was my favorite song in doom.
this remix is my favorite song (at the moment)

[Raisinbran]

This is by far one of my favorite remixes on the site. Very powerful song. Make more remixes rimco! :)

[Amayirot Akago]

Definitely one of my favorite remixes on the site. A gripping and atmospheric tune that'll haunt you till the end of your days. Excellent job on bringing back a golden tune and making it 200-karats gold.

[Deus Machina]

Very nice mix the only problem I had was it sounded like it was ran through a high pass filter

[Jenga]

This remix is completely awsome.It also has a special place in my heart because it was the first song I ever heard from this site.

[Jasoco]

I am a DOOM fan. I love DOOM. I have loved DOOM since I first played the Shareware demo. I have bought every kind of PC DOOM released. I own every Console port except GBA DOOM II and 3DO DOOM. I love DOOM. I love its music, I love its feel. I would play a game of DOOM before considering a game of Quake or Duke 3D. I love DOOM!

That said, I have not heard a DOOM song or remix I did not like. I have downloaded every DOOM song and remix I can find. This is one of my favorites. Right up there with the id-licensed "remakes" from the "DOOM Special CD's".

[Something Else]

Oh man, I love this one. Rimco really captured the feeling perfectly; while sounding very scary, it emits a vibe of eerie melancholy that really makes it worth the listen. The sounds used were perfect for the song, and really contributed to what Rimco was trying to achieve. It starts out so softly, and slowly, setting the tone for the song in such a great way. Then, at 0'31 it turns silent for a few seconds; and the sound returns, coming on slower, and even scarier. That part always gets to me.

The way it has the heart beating sound slowly turning into the hard banging of the drums with that ambient sound going so smoothly with such an eerie tune, it paints a perfect picture in your mind of what would be happening with this music playing. Then at 1'59 it starts bringing in more drums and sounds, and not once does it stray from that same feeling.

Whenever I see it on a playlist in Winamp, it always makes me come back for more, and every time I listen to it, it feels like the first time. I can't really find anything wrong with this one, and it would probably have to be one of my favorites on the site.

So much done right in this mix; do not let this one go unheard.

[The Orichalcon]

I'm surprised I haven't commented on this one.

But for christs sake, if you haven't listened to this yet there's something wrong with you or you're terminally ill and can't reach the computer.

This remix is beautiful, that's all really. The distortion is perfect.

Without a doubt this is my favourite mix on this site and has been since I first came here.

[Cadmus]

one of my favorites. this track is amazing, and i can't get enough.

[Protricity]

This is really one of my absolute favorites on this site. If I had to pick a top 5, this would be on it. Doesnt sound like it was too hard to make, or even that too much effort was put into it. Hell, its probably a direct rip + drumloop. Nevertheless, its simply one of those songs that hits me right on that spot. Excellent. Excellent.

[The Orichalcon]

I dunno if you're being sarcastic, Prot. I can't tell with you.

Most of this piece sounds original to me. Still in my Top 1.

[Protricity]

I dunno if you're being sarcastic, Prot. I can't tell with you.

Most of this piece sounds original to me. Still in my Top 1.

I just listened to the original. I find it very confusing how this is such a great reimagination of the original and NOT a rip AT ALL, and yet Rimco's other songs made later in time are direct rips. Confusing. Wait, actually Yie Ar Kung Fu was made before this. Whatever.

Nevertheless, I now consider this remix justified and awesome. GJGJJGJGJGJGJ

[PerLichtman]

Well, it looks like there's been a lot of interesting discussion since I was here last. I'm sorry but I still can't tell if you are being sarcastic Protrocity, but that's an issue with my extended time away from the forums as opposed to the post. Nonetheless, if you have time to clarify, I would appreciate it.

Take care all.

[neminem]

Wow. Just found this one off ormgas, and am quite impressed. Most of the first few hundred OCR tracks are mediocre at best, but not this one. The intro is moderately repetitive, but then just as I was about to gripe about that, more complexity is added. And I feel like that pause at the beginning was extended slightly more than was comfortable, but I really don't have much to complain about.

Nice feel, pretty nice implementation. I just 5'd you.

[The Orichalcon]

I remember thinking this would make great credits music for the doom movie back when I first heard it.

My, how things have changed... (http://www.dmop.co.nr)

[GrrDraxin]

This being my very first post on OCR, I'll try to make this good.

This is certainly one of the top 20 on my playlist. This particular mix seems almost too powerful. Just the way the melody builds up to that main part, then holds you was enough to get a strong emotional reaction out of me.

Even though I've played the game and at the time would stop shooting long enough to enjoy the song, this piece gives me a bit of a different feeling....

I guess if I had a lover who had passed away like an hour or two ago, this song would probably sum up the feeling of loss very well. THAT's probably the emotion that I mentioned earlier might be. I'm still debating whether this would be appropriate to play at a funeral, despite it's origin.

At any rate, I love this song ... However, there is a down side to my personal review.

I love the song, but the one thing that brings this song down in my opinion is the sample quality. This song makes no attempt to hide the low quality of the samples used. As an avid listener of the old types of mod songs (mod, s3m, xm, it, etc.), this sounds like it was tracked using ScreamTracker or the like. The only samples that don't sound like they're 8-bit are the drums, though that's not too hard to accomplish even for 8-bits.

If this song were rebuilt using higher quality samples, that would just make my day. I'll admit that the first thought that ran through my mind when I first started listening to this song was; "Damn, was this converted from a mod? If this wasn't an mp3, I could play this with no problem on my pettily little laptop."

In the case of mods, CPU power is what makes or breaks mod songs, and my laptop is an old Pent. 166, so I was quite annoyed with this song at first. But I'm over that now.

And thus ends my post.

[amos_ender]

Hey all, this is my first posting to the site as well.

This remix is one of my all-time favorites (of the 228 I've downloaded so far, and counting). I'm not a remixer myself so I can't comment on the details of music quality, but all I know is that it evokes a somber , sad, gripping, pleading mood.

I get the visual of the Doom Marine making his final stand against the demons and Barons of Hell in E1L8. Guns blazing, gore splattering, and then the deathblow. The anguished scream as the marine succumbs to the horde... and then a profound sorrow as our hero is devoured. It is the funeral dirge for the Doom Marine.

There are many awesome tunes on this site, and this is at the top of my list.

Please create more, Rimco -- this song kicks ass.

- amosender

[Valhalla Knight]

Man, I LITERALLY just CRIED while listening to this remix. Not balled or anything, mind you, but my eyes did well up and I shed a tear or two. It gets to me every time but just now was the first time I've actually responded that emotionally to it. It just gives me such a sense of hopelessness and...well, DOOM. Yet, somehow it lets me know that there is a small light at the end of the tunnel...this song is absolutely amazing, Rimco. Thanks.

[SUparJErk]

This song admittedtly kinda introduced me to video game music remixes in general. Sadly, nothing else has ever quite lived up to this one.

Absolutely astounding mix.

[Alimah Kali]

Welp... Guess I'll be the freak with the eerie review to completely throw things off.

Before I go on I must add that I have indeed heard the original and found that to be quite creepy. Despite this, I actually get two different sensations from this song. When I connect the song to Doom, I can feel heartache and a sadness like no other. To the point of tears. Something, or someone, has or will die and it will be a horrid death filled with unimaginable pain.

But when I listen to it as a song apart from the source, I feel a build up of romance. Almost like a forbidden love that must be kept in quiet shadow. It gives me chills and makes me sigh so very deeply, most especially towards the very end. I have chosen to go with this sensation... probably just because I'm a bit of a romantic.

Either way, the song is magnificent and I think it stands quite well against the test of time. I fell for this song years ago and just came back to it. It hasn't lost it's power over me even for a second.

[goombapatrol]

God, this piece is just amazing. Beautiful, and Saddening.

I really hope Rimco does more pieces, this guy got me onto ocremix in the first place.

[Jeremy66]

This is the reason I even signed up. This song is haunting. I usually don't listen to remixes except for doom remixes, and unlike the metal ones, this is carefully thought out. It's hauntingly beautiful. I sincerely hope Rimco does some more doom remixes. My favorite part is 3:23 afterwards

[Marmiduke]

This has to be one of my favourites, definately of the earlier OCR period. It was this mix that really exploded the wall between videogame music and music that I would regularly listen to. It also was the first that exposed just what can be lurking in the strangest places. Doom for me was just a dark, gritty game that I played through once and never thought of much, and when I learnt that something so beautiful could be extracted from that, my perception on music in general opened up tenfold.
Rimco interpreted the melody flawlessly. It contains everything the original does, but seamlessly includes some truly stunning moments that Bobby Prince himself would be jealous of, in a "Why didn't I think of that!?" sort of way.
If OCR could be summed up in a mix, this would be my pick. It's simple and complex at the same time, beautiful and macabre, and just plain awesome. I'm gushing now so I'll stop, but I really loved the mix and I'm glad others agree.

[K.B.]

This remix saps my will to live.


EDIT: I meant (and mean) that in full seriousness. A complete transformation of one's emotional state upon listening is the highest compliment I can imagine giving a piece of music. This remix does exactly that. Thank you, Mr Craig.

[Polo]

The iconic source and this ReMix tell me the same message but in different ways:

Source - "You will die in this decrepit place. Nothing you do will alter that fact. The demons here don't like your company, and they'll slaughter you if you so much as cry." (harsh and blunt)

ReMix - "You fought hard, dear Space Marine, and in the end it just wasn't enough. Now lay down your arms and your spirit, and find inner peace. You will join your fallen comrades on the other side." (gentle and forgiving)

This mix is so much easier to listen to, is what I'm saying. It hits the right tones softly but firmly.

[tweex]

Right off the bat, you have an excellent cinematic style going on. The chord progression and your choice musical textures creates a great vide. The drive of the piece is similar to your first piece (or at least the first part of the mix is) in the since that the synths carry the rhythm. The small sounding drums that come in are fantastic! This really does remind me of the aquatic ambience from DKC. That in itself is a feat in and of itself since this comes from Doom. The soundscape is just as lush as your first track was. Excellent work all around.

[ella guro]

This song is still great. The sounds are dark and unique but pleasant at the same time. The arrangement is very subtle. The beginning is one of the most emotive things I've heard on this site. When the lead just climbs upwards and then everything stops for a few seconds at :30 it's just picture perfect. I was a weird kid and played DOOM to death, and I think this mix does an excellent job of conjuring up the hopelessness of the game and that level (e1l8 ) in particular.

The only thing I never liked as much is the backing synth that comes in around 1:59. I think it's kind of a generic backing and more could have been done with it. That part used to really bug me, but these days it doesn't too much anymore.

This is a wonderful mix that everyone should hear.

[OA]

This has a very cool intro- I dig it.The sounds and mood are excellent, and the track has a really cool feel. For seeing a really old submission from a soundtrack that isn't really my favorites made me expect the worst, but this was a really nice surprise.

Fantastic. :-)