Chrono Trigger DS - Only 15 Silver Points! [Archive]

NNY

11-21-2008, 05:21 PM

Which converts roughly to $40 some American dollars. This game comes out in less than a week!

New Stuff:
Touch controls! (Class mode available too.)
New ending!
Anime cutscenes from the PS1 version! (Can be toggled on and off)
An online monster battling mode!?

I wish I could go forward in time a few days and buy this already.

Ramaniscence

11-21-2008, 05:33 PM

Vivi22

11-21-2008, 05:39 PM

Given the effort they put into even the GBA re-releases of FF games those new features are disspointing. I definitely won't bother with it given the price. Now if it was $20, then it might be a different story.

Kanthos

11-21-2008, 05:51 PM

Arek the Absolute

11-21-2008, 06:08 PM

I geeked the hell out and ordered me a japanese copy. Don't judge me :)

So far, it is sooooo good.
Having to read the tiny font on the screen is annoying, but you get over it pretty quick.

The script change is okay. Nothing bad really. The only thing you I really had to get used to was the skill name changes.

The new dungeons are interesting, especially the last 3. The monster arena, not so much. I found it really boring and an addition they could have fleshed out a lot more. All you do is send a monster to an era to train (each era has a specific stat it gets increased), wait for it to come back, then enter a ff6 coliseum style arena where you win prizes if you win.

Spoilers!! Read at your own risk.

The last dungeon is very important to the cc line and so is the final boss.
Dungeon shows that dalton is responsible for the fall of guardia in CC
Boss tells how magus becomes Guile in CC
So good.

End Spoilers.

NNY

11-21-2008, 06:09 PM

I really don't see why everyone is whining about the $40 price tag. All Squeenix DS games cost as much, and more than half of them are crap. I'd gladly pay $50 for this. Guaranteed quality.

Ramaniscence

11-21-2008, 06:20 PM

I really don't see why everyone is whining about the $40 price tag. All Squeenix DS games cost as much, and more than half of them are crap. I'd gladly pay $50 for this. Guaranteed quality.

Because I'm not made of money, and I have bills to pay, and 2 copies of Chrono Trigger is enough for me right now.

Castlevania: OoE (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72162) is $30, garunteed quality, AND I haven't BEATEN IT 40 times already.

Zombie

11-21-2008, 06:30 PM

I feel i should buy it, play it, and love as i have never played chrono trigger before.

I've been RPG crazy lately.

Red Shadow

11-21-2008, 06:41 PM

I am sorry nny but another rpg has my heart. You know how it is.

Incronaut

11-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Because I'm not made of money, and I have bills to pay, and 2 copies of Chrono Trigger is enough for me right now.

Castlevania: OoE (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72162) is $30, garunteed quality, AND I haven't BEATEN IT 40 times already.

but...but...its chrono trigger!

Native Jovian

11-21-2008, 06:46 PM

Spoilers!! Read at your own risk.
OSHI--

No, seriously? Are you messing with me?

Arek the Absolute

11-21-2008, 06:47 PM

OSHI--

No, seriously? Are you messing with me?

Nope

Message me on aim and I can provide you with anything you want to know about it if you want.

Gollgagh

11-21-2008, 06:51 PM

ffffffffffffffffff I need to finish CC

Penfold

11-21-2008, 07:09 PM

Finally preordered yesterday. Can't wait for a chance to play CT again!

Vivi22

11-21-2008, 07:34 PM

NNY didn't mention that there are two new dungeons as well. I'd find it hard to say that this doesn't top any of the GB FF remakes. FF IV, on the other hand, is more debatable. (FF III's remake added so little besides graphics that's it's not worth considering).

You're thinking of the DS remakes, not the GBA versions. And I would say the GBA games top this in terms of offering a new experience since they got extra dungeons and new translations at least (some of those translations being pretty sorely needed). This is pretty much the same game we got in the PSX re-release but with only the new dungeons as additions (couldn't give to craps about this online mode), and that's not enough for me to pay $40 for a game I already own.

XZero

11-21-2008, 07:58 PM

I preordered this back in August. This was the first game I played via a rom; I had heard about it, but didn't know (a) where to find a copy (2001-02) and (b) if it was as good as people said. I absolutely love Chrono Trigger. I have since bought the cartridge and the PS1 remake (which sucked hardcore due to the load times). I am looking forward to some portable Chrono Trigger action. Maybe triumphant sales of this re-make will get us Chrono Cross on DS or *gasp* Chrono Break?!?!? Yeah... I guess not.

NNY

11-21-2008, 08:27 PM

There are three Castlevania's on DS alone. But only one Chrono Trigger. (And a PS1 sequel, and an SNES text adventure, but those are entirely different.)

I bet Order of Eccelsia has only one ending too! CTDS is only $5 more....

....someone buy it...

cobaltstarfire

11-21-2008, 08:30 PM

Aww man, at 40 dollars I'll have to pass and hope the price drops in a year or two.

Kanthos

11-21-2008, 08:46 PM

You're thinking of the DS remakes, not the GBA versions. And I would say the GBA games top this in terms of offering a new experience since they got extra dungeons and new translations at least (some of those translations being pretty sorely needed). This is pretty much the same game we got in the PSX re-release but with only the new dungeons as additions (couldn't give to craps about this online mode), and that's not enough for me to pay $40 for a game I already own.

Thinking of both, actually, just didn't word it clearly. FF IV GBA had the extra dungeon (which was really easy except for Kain's floor); FF IV DS has augments and better graphics. Personally, I'd take more content over better graphics any day; if it wasn't for the augment system, I wouldn't be playing FF IV DS at all.

Ramaniscence

11-21-2008, 09:10 PM

I bet Order of Eccelsia has only one ending too!

...you're kinda behind on the whole Castlevania thing, aren't you?

SirChadlyOC

11-21-2008, 09:21 PM

I think last time NNY was around, Rama still had his thug sig with the bling "$" necklace. (which I miss, BTW)

Look, I really like Chrono Trigger and all, but nobody other than Squeenix is charging $40 for a DS game. ESPECIALLY when you consider that it's essentially a port, not a new game. There's no way it took more resources/effort/money to create Chrono Trigger DS than it did to make most other new DS games.

I would buy it at $30, think it's a steal at $20, and would consider (but pass) at $35. $40 is too much for a DS game unless it's The World Ends With You.

NNY

11-21-2008, 09:45 PM

...you're kinda behind on the whole Castlevania thing, aren't you?

Terribly behind.

yangfeili

11-21-2008, 09:54 PM

I'd buy a "Squaresoft Classics" collection for $20 with all their SNES games on it, like Capcom or Konami would put out. People allow themselves to buy into the whole "It's worth any price" mystique surrounding stuff like Chrono Trigger way too much, as if these were some sort of sacred holy treasures that S-E keeps locked in a magically sealed vault rather than just a couple megs of data which they could have slapped onto a compilation disc at any time.

Penfold

11-21-2008, 10:22 PM

....someone buy it...

Haha, I doubt anybody seriously thinks this won't sell well, despite the nay-sayers.

Meeting_Gman

11-21-2008, 11:09 PM

Maybe triumphant sales of this re-make will get us Chrono Cross on DS or *gasp* Chrono Break?!?!? Yeah... I guess not.

I really wish Chrono Break would come to be. Chrono Cross left more questions then answers. A very enjoyable game but, so many questions.

If any of you have not tried it, look up "Radical Dreamers". It was a Satellaview game, so you'd have to search for a translated rom.

Even more questions arise.

Arek the Absolute

11-21-2008, 11:23 PM

Spoilers about stuff that you see at the ending. Again, read at your own risk.

After doing more research into the series after getting the extra ending, I found out just how tragic this series is.

Dalton destroys Guardia with us only to assume that Crono and Marle got murdered since his final lines in CT were that he was going to get revenge. Magus finds Schala in the distortion, only to lose her again when Crono and crew lose *storyline wise, you win but you still lose* to the dream devourer. She then sends him away with him losing his memory, ultimately becoming guile.

Lucca still gets screwed either way.

Man, this game turned the chrono series into a sad series for me. I LOVE IT EVEN MORE NOW.

Zombie

11-22-2008, 02:15 AM

Preordering right now. Looks like it will be an awesome experience, and i haven't really played my ds in a while. Plus i get cool bonuses if i preorder, and i like me some bonuses.

:nicework:

DJMetal

11-22-2008, 03:08 AM

Can't say I'm too excited. I found the "Final Fantasy Chronicles" for $20 and I say Chrono Trigger is just as good on TV as it is portable...plus I got FFIV with it as well. I don't think I'll be touching this one.

The Mutericator

11-22-2008, 03:26 AM

I'll pass on this. I still have DQIV and FFIV left to finish, and that's after I find the time to finish Ecclesia, which at least is an actual new game that development time went into rather than some straight-up port with a couple of minor endgame extras and a full $10 more. Fuck you, SE, you have enough of my money, but I'm not buying an RPG I couldn't force myself to get through the first two times I played it.

Ranael

11-22-2008, 04:38 AM

I already reserved a copy of Chrono Trigger DS and I can hardly wait for it to come out. After spending over a hundred and six hours getting everything in The World Ends With You, I need a new game to spend my time with.

NNY

11-22-2008, 04:45 PM

Preordering right now. Looks like it will be an awesome experience, and i haven't really played my ds in a while. Plus i get cool bonuses if i preorder, and i like me some bonuses.

:nicework:

It isn't much, but it's put together nicely. I got an LP of the "Chrono Trigger Orchestra Extra Soundtrack" . It's orchestrated, track 1 is the Chrono Trigger theme, and track two is a medley. Really nice. Inside is a little paper with Yasunori Mitsuda thanking everyone for enjoying the soundtrack so much.

This is not really a preorder bonus, it's a love note.

wiredzombie

11-22-2008, 10:51 PM

its times like this where i wish i had money
and a job
:(

Doulifée

11-22-2008, 11:47 PM

Spoilers!! Read at your own risk.

The last dungeon is very important to the cc line and so is the final boss.
Dungeon shows that dalton is responsible for the fall of guardia in CC
Boss tells how magus becomes Guile in CC
So good.

End Spoilers.

to bad i was using rama's dark skin. Never mind i'll survive :-P

halc

11-23-2008, 01:57 AM

eh, i'm happy enough with my SNES copy

*doesnt have a DS*

Sag Ee Mana

11-24-2008, 01:57 AM

to bad i was using rama's dark skin. Never mind i'll survive :-P

Ha ha! Anyway, because of this same Arek's post, I've made too much advertising to my friend Douly :wink: (useless advertising I believe)
Went to gamespot to see the review : lots of new stuff, it's really better than what they did for the Final Fantasy remakes ! So I've order it !
(with Castlevania, hard to get on my small island)

I-n-j-i-n

11-24-2008, 08:58 AM

I'm going to be angry if they downgrade the sound quality again for a remake. Otherwise, I might get around to it. It is only one of my favorite RPGs of all time. Now they need a Shining Force collection for a handheld.

Sag Ee Mana

11-24-2008, 07:05 PM

Do you believe we'll get one day Seiken Densetsu 3 on DS ?
"World of Mana" (games project) has disappointed me a lot...
But why don't they do a remake of this game ? Is there any license or copyright stuff behinf that ? I don't get it.

Gollgagh

11-24-2008, 07:30 PM

NNY

11-24-2008, 11:44 PM

Third time's a charm.

Arcubalis

11-25-2008, 05:50 AM

The Orchestra Extra disc is awesome, but is such a tease. They need to give us a whole album of that stuff. Especially "Wind Scene" and "To Far Away Times."

Anyway, we got an interview with Mitsuda talking about the disc, the game, the "Unreleased Tracks" from the PlayStation remake, and The Brink of Time:

http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=915

Let me know what you think.

Mustin

11-26-2008, 02:12 PM

cool interview

Can't wait to pick up my copy today!

Hope I can score that extra disc...

Palpable

11-26-2008, 03:07 PM

The Orchestra Extra disc is awesome, but is such a tease. They need to give us a whole album of that stuff. Especially "Wind Scene" and "To Far Away Times."

QFE. I wasn't planning on getting the game, but I got it as a gift for my birthday, and it came with the Extra Disc yesterday when I picked up the game. Both songs sound amazing but we're only talking 6 minutes of music. Where's the rest?

ubernym

11-26-2008, 04:55 PM

I bought it. Funny thing, I've never bought Chrono Trigger in any of its other iterations. First time I played it was when I borrowed it from a friend. Second time, was on (ahem) a SNES emulator. And then I played it on my brother's PS1.

Even on the emulator, it felt..not quite right, and the PS1 version load times were irritating to say the least. So for me, $40 for one of my all time favorite games is well worth it.

Now we just need to convince the powers that be to release a Mother trilogy on DS. I'd gladly pay $100 for that.

Penfold

11-26-2008, 07:25 PM

Just picked it up! Gonna play a whole lot of it over the long weekend! :D

Both CT and SSF2THDR today...so awesome!

Equinox

11-26-2008, 08:57 PM

Will get. Hopefully with that extra music disc.

Mustin

11-26-2008, 09:29 PM

Watching the intro movie now. And I got the CD disc (it's awesome).

Good times!!

TheRedBob

11-27-2008, 05:15 AM

Zombie

11-27-2008, 05:30 AM

Playing my DS makes me tired for some reason... I only played for like an hour and felt way sleepy. :\

Really fun so far. This game is awesome.

I-n-j-i-n

11-27-2008, 09:02 AM

I really, really hate the fact that I'd eventually be compelled to buy the latest and the ultimate Chrono Trigger version after buying it once, emulating it twice, buying it again twice, buying the PSX version and now this... I don't want to bother with the cost math.

The Damned

11-28-2008, 03:13 AM

The only thing I could possibly have a problem with, is that I thought the sprites would be a little bigger. Everything seems smaller than I think it should. Maybe it's because I haven't played Chrono Trigger in years, but somehow, I remember everything being a lot bigger. I don't mean, like on a bigger screen, I mean as in the amount of screen space the character take up.

Lotd2242

11-28-2008, 04:33 AM

I got it. I've played it many, many times via emulator before, but hey.

I started it up, noticed some new dialog work, won some silver points, etc.

When Frog entered, however, something went very wrong. "Lower your guard, and you're allowing the enemy in."

What is this nonsense? I'm quite angry.

So they took away his English accent after all?

That's too bad. I know he didn't speak very formally in the Japanese version, but I always felt it worked with his character speaking that way and nobody else. It was as if he was overcompensating for feeling like he was unworthy of being a knight.

Meeting_Gman

11-28-2008, 05:38 AM

Pander

11-28-2008, 07:44 AM

So they took away his English accent after all?

That's too bad. I know he didn't speak very formally in the Japanese version, but I always felt it worked with his character speaking that way and nobody else. It was as if he was overcompensating for feeling like he was unworthy of being a knight.

How many English people use thy/thine? None. It wasn't English, it was psuedo-Latin, and it was hamfisted anyway.

His manner of speech was part of what made him such a likable character. That is unfortunate news.

I was always partial to his spirit of determination, senses of honor and nobility, and the fact he rolled with being a frog. Bears are intense, but frogs are always cool.

I-n-j-i-n

11-28-2008, 09:01 AM

Meeting_Gman

11-28-2008, 05:39 PM

How many English people use thy/thine? None. It wasn't English, it was psuedo-Latin, and it was hamfisted anyway.

I was always partial to his spirit of determination, senses of honor and nobility, and the fact he rolled with being a frog. Bears are intense, but frogs are always cool.

Do notice, I said part, good Sir. It was part of his personality, one of the first things you came to notice about him. Those you listed, also greatly encompass who Frog is and what makes him so likable.

NNY

11-28-2008, 06:43 PM

Why would people have a problem with Frog speaking in Old English? It added to his character.

Dhsu

11-28-2008, 08:55 PM

Lotd2242

11-28-2008, 09:57 PM

Because it wasn't Old English, it was a painfully inadequate attempt by someone who had probably read a single Shakespeare poem in his life. I'm really, really glad they did away with that distracting travesty of the language.

But the fact that it's a butchery of Old English is why it seemed to fit him perfectly. Despite totally having no faith in himself and not being nobility (and being a Frog to boot), he's trying to be this ultra-formal, strict-honor-code-following knight so he's speaking in thys and thous while everyone else is speaking normally.

Dhsu

11-28-2008, 11:16 PM

That's an interesting take on the character, but one that wasn't in the original game.

dPaladin

11-29-2008, 12:14 AM

Pseudo-Latin? no.... It's called Old-English (layman term. Official term apparently being Early Modern English). It's an actual way of speaking and hence it is mocked/emulated in modern day. Latin? Where did that come from?
Old English and Early Modern English are actually several centuries apart. If it were really Old English, you wouldn't be able to read it (unless you happened to know Old English and then high five to you I suppose) because it's so far removed from Modern English. And yeah, the Latin thing was completely off-base.

I usually call Early Modern English "Shakespearean English," even though Shakespeare's considered the transition to Modern English. Honestly, this entire post is just my being Mr. Pedantic Language Guy.

Anyway, as far as I remember, Frog just borrowed some pronoun forms and that was it. I enjoyed it at the time, what with being like eight years old and all, but I probably won't miss it when I play this new version. And play it I shall.

NNY

11-29-2008, 03:51 AM

We can all agree that Frog's speech was nowhere near as bad the dialogue for every minor character in Chrono Cross.

Global-Trance

11-29-2008, 06:16 AM

As great as the old Frog dialogue was, it was completely out of place. Any reason you think he may have had it is just filling in holes that weren't there to begin with.

Veritas

11-29-2008, 06:50 AM

i'm still waiting for my game to come in the mail. i pre-ordered it ages ago, but was too cheap to pay for shipping. lol!

i liked frog's old dialogue if nothing because it reminded me of cyan from FFVI.

Dhsu

11-29-2008, 08:08 AM

See, Cyan's dialog is a great example of the style done RIGHT. Shoulda gotten that dude to translate CT.

NNY

11-29-2008, 08:18 AM

See, Cyan's dialog is a great example of the style done RIGHT. Shoulda gotten that dude to translate CT.

Yeah....they should have got that dude to translate CT.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_woosley)

Lotd2242

12-01-2008, 01:55 AM

So, another curiousity I had regarding script changes (since I don't own a DS), did they change the names back to the originals? I.E. the Gurus, Ozzie/Slash/Flea?

Veritas

12-01-2008, 03:05 AM

there's some item name changes i've noticed so far -- speed capsules instead of tabs, changes equipment names, etc. i just got to the end of time; been facing off against those guys soon...

oh yeah, there's room to add an "h" into Crono's name if you want to now. lol.

NNY

12-01-2008, 03:20 AM

So, another curiousity I had regarding script changes (since I don't own a DS), did they change the names back to the originals? I.E. the Gurus, Ozzie/Slash/Flea?

No. They're all the same. Those names are all better than the originals anyway.

I-n-j-i-n

12-01-2008, 09:17 AM

I honestly can't believe people actually took Frog's speech patterns so seriously. It's just a cute quirk after all, not a seriously relevant one. And the translation wasn't FFT-horrendous and it was fine as is. Then again, Square Enix makes a lot of strange design choices, including translations.

Global-Trance

12-01-2008, 02:01 PM

Am I the only one here that was hoping for Masamune to have its real name?

Native Jovian

12-01-2008, 02:56 PM

And the translation wasn't FFT-horrendous and it was fine as is.
FFT's translation was horrendously AWESOME. Surrender or die in obscurity!

Am I the only one here that was hoping for Masamune to have its real name?
Wait, what? Masamune had a different name in the original Japanese? I've heard nothing of this. (The Gurus and Ozzie/Flea/Slash I did know about, though.)

ubernym

12-01-2008, 07:30 PM

Wait, what? Masamune had a different name in the original Japanese? I've heard nothing of this. (The Gurus and Ozzie/Flea/Slash I did know about, though.)

According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Chrono_Trigger):
"Grand" and "Leon" in the Japanese version creating the sword "Grandleon."

...which is pretty lame, and I'm glad they changed it.

Also, I'm about 8 hours in and its awesome. I personally like the new localization. It seems in many ways more mature and subtle.

Oh man I haven't had this much fun in ages!

Dhsu

12-01-2008, 07:33 PM

Yeah....they should have got that dude to translate CT.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_woosley)
I'd like to say the irony was intentional, but I'm honestly kind of at a loss for words now because this means there was pretty much no excuse for Frog's terrible dialog.

ubernym

12-01-2008, 09:13 PM

...He was going through a divorce at the time and drinking heavily...?

I don't know it's plausible

Global-Trance

12-01-2008, 09:26 PM

Guys. Doesn't it bother anyone else that a European model sword of the Bronze Age is named after a legendary Japanese swordsmith of the 13th/14th century?

It doesn't even look Japanese in the slightest.

The name Masamune is definitely cooler, but I don't think we can get anymore inappropriate with the naming.

Lotd2242

12-02-2008, 03:27 AM

The real question is, how many people actually pronounce it properly? :-)

NNY

12-02-2008, 03:42 AM

The real question is, how many people actually pronounce it properly? :-)

I've never heard anyone pronounce it wrong really, but I'd love to hear someone call it "Mesamewn."

Lotd2242

12-02-2008, 04:20 AM

Actually until the post-DBZ anime craze, I never heard it pronounced any other way. I still have to catch myself from time to time because of that.

Thalzon

12-02-2008, 04:21 AM

I've always pronounced it Masa-moon. It's Masa-moonay, right?

dPaladin

12-02-2008, 04:28 AM

It's Masa-moonay, right?
I hope so, because that's how I've been saying it. It generally works out if you just use phonetic Latin pronunciations for everything.

EDIT: mah sah moo nay

FuriousFure

12-02-2008, 05:10 AM

I've never heard anyone pronounce it wrong really, but I'd love to hear someone call it "Mesamewn."

you should hang out with me sometime. I said it wrong, I also spoke Lucca "luka" and Marle "Marl", MasaMune "maza mew-n" but hey what are you going to when you're 12?

yeah I bought the DS version, worth it, I figure since I got the SNES cartridge for free (my cousin gave it to me in a box filled with a bunch of others) I should pay for at least a little!

It soon became my favorite game ever. or at least was the most influential, especially the music. fantastic music. and with the DS features like sound test and what have you, it was worth 40 bucks.

I-n-j-i-n

12-02-2008, 08:10 AM

FFT's translation was horrendously AWESOME. Surrender or die in obscurity!

I GOT A GOOD FEELING.

cobaltstarfire

12-02-2008, 08:17 AM

I've always pronounced it Masa-moon. It's Masa-moonay, right?

That's close, but if you want to really say it how it should be in Japanese, it's Mah-sah-moo-neh. Unless it's been romanized completely wrong then I dunno.

Veritas

12-02-2008, 09:09 AM

FFT's translation was horrendously AWESOME. Surrender or die in obscurity!

you know, i must own like 3 different copies of FFT but never bothered to play more than the first 2 missions or so. what is the translation like? and is the psp version any better?

Native Jovian

12-02-2008, 01:46 PM

I GOT A GOOD FEELING.
We opened it with courage and...! (This thread now a "random FFT dialogue!" thread.)

you know, i must own like 3 different copies of FFT but never bothered to play more than the first 2 missions or so. what is the translation like? and is the psp version any better?
Three different copies? To my knowledge there's only two versions of it released: the original PS1 and the PSP port. Unless you meant that you have three of the same disc for some reason...?

In any case, I thought the translation was awesome. It was campy as hell and probably not technically accurate, but that's why we loved it. The PSP version "fixes" the translation, but from what I hear it makes the game lose a lot of its charm. I haven't played the PSP version, though, so don't take my word for it.

XZero

12-02-2008, 02:03 PM

I've never heard anyone pronounce it wrong really, but I'd love to hear someone call it "Masamewn."

I'll own up to calling it this the first time I read the text in the game. I'd never heard of the sword before, and I just figured that the characters who made it were indeed called "Masa" and "Mune [mewn]." I think I heard the correct pronunciation on an anime a few years later.

Gollgagh

12-02-2008, 02:35 PM

I'll own up to calling it this the first time I read the text in the game. I'd never heard of the sword before, and I just figured that the characters who made it were indeed called "Masa" and "Mune [mewn]." I think I heard the correct pronunciation on an anime a few years later.

hahaha I pronounced it exactly the same

DJ Mighty

12-02-2008, 04:14 PM

you should hang out with me sometime. I said it wrong, I also spoke Lucca "luka" and Marle "Marl", MasaMune "maza mew-n" but hey what are you going to when you're 12?

LOL i was and still am the same. Until i read this thread i didnt know i was saying masamune wrong. I have always been a HUGE fan of the game (my first battle screen RPG i played, way before FF) and i have met even bigger fans and we all said it the same, MasaMewn. Oh well.

its kinda like that RYU (Rye-U, Ree-U) and Tidus (Tie-dus, Tea-dus thing)

Gollgagh

12-02-2008, 04:25 PM

I said it wrong, I also spoke Lucca "luka" and Marle "Marl"

wait is that not how you supposed to pronounce them

Native Jovian

12-02-2008, 05:05 PM

wait is that not how you supposed to pronounce them
The only alternate pronounciations I can think of would be "lu-sha" (soft "c", like "s" rather than like "k") and "mar-lay" (with "mar" and "le" as seperate syllables, rather than "marl" with a silent "e"). Of course, I've always pronounced it "Luka", "Marl", and "Masamewn", and probably will continue to do so.

On a semi-related note, I used to have an ongoing debate on the proper pronounciation of "chocobo". When the newer games with voice acting came out, I was finally vindicated. All those years, and I was right all along! Mwahahahaha! (It's "cho-ko-bo", not "chok-o-bo".)

The other big pronounciation argument I can remember is Raiden. Rye-den or Ray-den? I've heard it both ways, even in voice acting, so I don't even know if there is a right answer to that one.

I-n-j-i-n

12-02-2008, 05:57 PM

It's "Rye-Den" like in the Metal Gear one. It's a real wording and name so you should say it like the way Japanese do. Ryu, it's understandable, since it's more like "R-You". Watching too many anime, I can't ever say "Masamwune" like many people do. I always say it correctly.

Penfold

12-02-2008, 06:48 PM

The other big pronounciation argument I can remember is Raiden. Rye-den or Ray-den? I've heard it both ways, even in voice acting, so I don't even know if there is a right answer to that one.

It's "rye-den," no matter how they may have said it in Mortal Kombat :P.

Man, I'm enjoying this game more this time around than the first time I had played it...I think I've had further exposure to the genre since then, so I can appreciate the battle system and whatnot that much more.

NNY

12-02-2008, 09:24 PM

I call them "Luka" and "Marley." The other ways just sound retarded. And I don't care if they're supposed to be pronounced differently or not.

Veritas

12-02-2008, 10:02 PM

Three different copies? To my knowledge there's only two versions of it released: the original PS1 and the PSP port. Unless you meant that you have three of the same disc for some reason...?

I have 2 copies of the PSone release -- one when it first came out (black label) and a greatest hits version. I also have the PSP release, but its still in the shrink wrap. lol.

Lotd2242

12-02-2008, 10:09 PM

I always figured Lucca was pretty straight forward as "Luka", technically with a little extra "k" sound to be "Luk" "ka".

Marle is "Marl" with the silent e. We had a thread about it a few months back. That's probably the weirdest to say of the bunch.

What about Ayla? I always I assumed it's "ay" as in day as opposed to "aye, captain."

NNY

12-02-2008, 10:38 PM

I just did some research. Oddly enough, Lucca's English Wikipedia entry is deleted.
But, the Japanese one says it's ”ルッカ(Rukka),” so "Luka" would be the correct pronunciation.

Marle is ”マール（Maru),” So drop the u at the end, and you got Marl.

Won't stop me from calling her "Marley" though. Much cuter.

Fusion2004

12-03-2008, 01:10 AM

Ah, Chrono Trigger. I knew not how much I have missed ye.

Just got the reforged Masamune and heading back to Frog. I would be playing now, (during my Macroeconomics class), but the red light of IMMINENT BATTERY DEATH is lit and I forgot my charger at home.

: (

Veritas

12-03-2008, 02:47 AM

I would be playing now, (during my Macroeconomics class), but the red light of IMMINENT BATTERY DEATH is lit and I forgot my charger at home.

that red light of imminent battery death is one of those features i like in the NDS -- it lets you know you better find a save point. the psp just shuts off without so much as an excuse me.

SoloGamer

12-03-2008, 03:04 AM

that red light of imminent battery death is one of those features i like in the NDS -- it lets you know you better find a save point. the psp just shuts off without so much as an excuse me.
The green power light blinks, you're just not paying attention.

Also, you can check how much charge is left by simply hitting the home button.

Veritas

12-03-2008, 03:48 AM

The green power light blinks, you're just not paying attention.

Also, you can check how much charge is left by simply hitting the home button.

ok, i was wrong then. the psp does at least say excuse me before it shuts off on you.

Though you have to admit that its hard to pay attention to one tiny green light, blinking or not, when its conveniently covered by your right thumb when you're holding the psp. (and no, i don't routinely push my home button to check my battery every now and then when i'm playing a game either.)

anyway, back to the subject at hand. i just got my bonus chrono trigger CD in the mail! yay. too bad only 2 songs though.

Kenobio

12-03-2008, 12:18 PM

Hurray I bought this today! I was very pleased that there were a great deal of the musical cds left too, as securing one of those was a priority of mine.

Veritas

12-03-2008, 10:18 PM

Hurray I bought this today! I was very pleased that there were a great deal of the musical cds left too, as securing one of those was a priority of mine.

yeah i got mine late too and was pleasantly surprised to get a music cd too =p yay!

Arcubalis

12-05-2008, 05:43 PM

Robo's no stranger to love.

Thought it'd be a good time to Rick Roll Yasunori Mitsuda. Wish I was able to talk to him more about it, but now at least he's aware of it!

http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=1274

Veritas

12-06-2008, 08:22 AM

robo's and frog's themes are two of my favorites in the whole game. never realized how similar robo's theme is to rick roll though.

FuriousFure

12-06-2008, 08:59 AM

yeah i got mine late too and was pleasantly surprised to get a music cd too =p yay!

Tell me about it! i went into GameStop on black friday after getting some cheap dvds. asked about CTDS and he's like oh and heres a cd too!

so i got the preorder perk without the 5 bucks upfront. woot.

SirChadlyOC

12-06-2008, 01:39 PM

Tell me about it! i went into GameStop on black friday after getting some cheap dvds. asked about CTDS and he's like oh and heres a cd too!

so i got the preorder perk without the 5 bucks upfront. woot.

Yeah that happens a lot at GameStop (where I work). They almost always send us more copies of the preorder bonus than we have preorders for, so we end up with extras. Unless it's an epic release (Gears 2, WoW, etc.) we'll usually have extras, but the employee might easily forget about it. If you are buying new releases from GameStop, it never hurts to ask if they still have any preorder bonuses left.

I got a CD, for example, even though I haven't bought the game (...yet?). Let me tell you, the CD is awesome, but painfully short. It's like finding a great free sample of porn online. It's enough to get you to blow your load, but you know there's gotta be a much better and longer version of it somewhere...

Mustin

12-06-2008, 03:57 PM

It's like finding a great free sample of porn online. It's enough to get you to blow your load, but you know there's gotta be a much better and longer version of it somewhere...

Perfect. perfect

The Damned

12-19-2008, 03:25 AM

Haa haa, those wacky guys at Gamestop.

http://www.gamestop.com/ds

In case it's down by the time you read this, here's the description.
Chrono Trigger
Upon further review, we've discovered that Chrono Trigger does not have a level that allows you to travel back to 1982 to throw a football over some mountains and win the state championship. You'll spend most of the game traveling through time, fighting evil bosses and trying to save the planet's future, probably by preventing Sarah Connor from giving birth to Marty McFly.

Wow. I knew working there made you crazy, but that's just funny.

Veritas

12-19-2008, 04:23 AM

http://www.gamestop.com/ds

darn it. i was really hoping to travel back in time to prevent the borg from assimilating earth too. oh well, there's always going back to steal stuff.

Drack

12-19-2008, 04:40 AM

Any gameplay differences from the SNES version? Bonus dungeon?

Evilhead

12-19-2008, 05:20 AM

Any gameplay differences from the SNES version? Bonus dungeon?

More items, two extra dungeons, a streamlined menu (the play screen remains uncluttered), etc.

The Damned

12-19-2008, 05:40 AM

Spoilers warning, not that it should be necessary, but apparently some people still haven't played this game. Shame on you, no more spoilers warning after this. There's a goddamn statute of limitations on this kind of thing.

Not having a quarter of the screen taken up by lots of menu stuff helps a lot. And the map screen is slightly useful if not interesting to see things you might miss first; like in Ozzie's Fortress, there's a secret tunnel. If you haven't played it before/a lot time, you might miss it and pass up a lot of very good items for Magus.

Also, if you do the first extra dungeon, you can get a lot of the higher power items earlier. Once Chrono dies, you can access the Lost Sanctum, which will give you loads of cash, lots of items, and plenty of experience. It will make the next few quests, like reviving Chrono and the side-quests, a lot easier.

As for the other new quest, you can only access it once you complete the game once, and go into New Game+. It doesn't sound too bad from what I've read.

Now, has anyone really tried the Arena yet?

Majin GeoDooD

12-19-2008, 07:15 AM

As for the other new quest, you can only access it once you complete the game once, and go into New Game+. It doesn't sound too bad from what I've read.

Actually, you don't have to go into NG+ to access the Dimensional Vortex. Instead of starting NG+ you can just continue your save, the portals will still be there, and once you beat new ending you can save and then start your NG+.

Doulifée

12-19-2008, 09:37 AM

Here the Masamune is now named the GrandLéon

Gollgagh

12-19-2008, 09:47 AM

Here the Masamune is now named the GrandLéon

which is apparently the original name of the sword

Doulifée

12-19-2008, 10:02 AM

which is apparently the original name of the sword

after all it's a SWORD not a KATANA (those are wielded by Crono)

Arek the Absolute

12-19-2008, 10:11 AM

after all it's a SWORD not a KATANA (those are wielded by Crono)

dude seriously
g-t and i talked about this a while ago and it totally made me wish they renamed it for our version

Doulifée

12-19-2008, 10:24 AM

dude seriously
g-t and i talked about this a while ago and it totally made me wish they renamed it for our version

play it in french then. :-P

Global-Trance

12-20-2008, 07:53 AM

Argggh why couldn't we get the original name of that sword?! Masamune makes no sense!

Thalzon

12-20-2008, 03:47 PM

Because it wouldn't match up with Chrono Cross, so then they'd have to re-release that game with a fresh new translation, and from what I remember, translating that game was hell.

Palpable

12-20-2008, 04:10 PM

As long as the statute of limitations on spoilers has passed, did anyone else think the Lost Sanctum was incredibly tedious? I lost track of how many times I went up and down that damn mountain. I actually started to use the FAQ towards the end because I was tired of going up thinking that was what I had to do next, only to find I missed a step. The Dimensional Vortex was very cool though and I even almost died on the first boss I fought there, which was refreshing for Chrono Trigger. :)

BardicKnowledge

12-20-2008, 04:34 PM

Because it wouldn't match up with Chrono Cross, so then they'd have to re-release that game with a fresh new translation, and from what I remember, translating that game was hell.

Giving each character their unique accent in CC wasn't actually done with direct translation (they used an algorithim to generate accents for each character), it probably wasn't as terrible as it could have been. Still, a lot of dialogue though!

As long as the statute of limitations on spoilers has passed, did anyone else think the Lost Sanctum was incredibly tedious? I lost track of how many times I went up and down that damn mountain. I actually started to use the FAQ towards the end because I was tired of going up thinking that was what I had to do next, only to find I missed a step. The Dimensional Vortex was very cool though and I even almost died on the first boss I fought there, which was refreshing for Chrono Trigger. :)

The mountain was incredibly tedious. Other parts of the Lost Sanctum were bearable though. The Dimensional Vortex portions were very cool when they were exploring additions to the plot: I would have liked to see events from Schala's point of view -- continuing as if the camera never cut off from the Ocean Palace.

Either that or seeing the development of the El Nido Triangle would have really sealed the deal. As is, the extra parts are fun, but generate more questions than answers. I'm hoping for a re-release of CC to address some of these issues (could the DS handle it given improvements to compression etc.?)

wiredzombie

12-31-2008, 08:04 AM

so i just got chrono trigger ds...and i find out my ds is stolen
fack

Kanthos

12-31-2008, 03:36 PM

Either that or seeing the development of the El Nido Triangle would have really sealed the deal. As is, the extra parts are fun, but generate more questions than answers. I'm hoping for a re-release of CC to address some of these issues (could the DS handle it given improvements to compression etc.?)

Wasn't the El Nido Triangle created by Fate? Maybe I'm forgetting something, but I thought Chronopolis was built on some random island, and Fate did the rest.

As for a port to DS, the DS couldn't handle it as well as the PSX because of the size of the videos. If they cut all the FMVs, they could possibly squeeze everything onto the DS. More likely, they'd remake it for the PSP.

Thalzon

12-31-2008, 07:32 PM

When Chronopolis was thrown into the past due to time experiments, Fate constructed the El Nido archipelago and guided it to ensure that it would be built in the far-flung future.

The Damned

12-31-2008, 07:49 PM

Ugh, let's keep the Chrono Cross stuff out of the Chrono Trigger thread, please. I don't need convoluted theories and random guesses about what the hell is going on in one game, while trying to enjoy another game that is barely connected to it.

so i just got chrono trigger ds...and i find out my ds is stolen
fack
Sucky. And you can swear here. See?

Fuck bitch ass cunt.

NNY

01-02-2009, 06:49 PM

Ugh, let's keep the Chrono Cross stuff out of the Chrono Trigger thread, please. I don't need convoluted theories and random guesses about what the hell is going on in one game, while trying to enjoy another game that is barely connected to it.

It is my thread and I say the Chrono Cross discussion goes.

The Damned

01-02-2009, 07:32 PM

"Goes" as in "out of the thread", or "goes" as in "anything goes"?

NNY

01-02-2009, 07:36 PM

"Goes" as in the opposite of what you want.

Gollgagh

01-02-2009, 07:41 PM

Fuck bitch ass cunt.

just because you can doesn't mean you have to

nothin' wrong with a little word distortion

asterisking (holy crap that's actually a word) it out is pretty annoying though

also my DS was confiscated by rampaging parents >.|

NNY

01-02-2009, 07:46 PM

also my DS was confiscated by rampaging parents >.|

I always thought you were a bit older...

The Damned

01-02-2009, 08:48 PM

Well, they were rampaging. Maybe things like age or even living on your own wouldn't stop them from parenting.

EXTREME PARENTING!

Skullbullet

01-04-2009, 06:38 AM

I just finished Lost Sanctum. Neat rewards, but still baffled as to how an entire development team thought this was a good idea.

"HAY GUYZ LET'S RUN UP AND DOWN A MOUNTAIN FOR THREE HOURS, THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN LOLOLOLOLOLOL"

-_-

I had so much fun playing through the game again, though. I'd forgotten how much I actually liked this game. :D

The Damned

01-04-2009, 07:03 AM

Fetch quests weren't really that big back when CT first came out, so maybe they thought they could catch up on it now. Remember, people looooooove fetch quests during the late 90s.

On the other hand, I got Robo decked out in full Dragon gear, most of which came from the Lost Sanctuary, so that alone made it kind of useful.

Dragon-ized Robo is a powerhouse. Got four of his stats at double stars.

FuriousFure

01-04-2009, 08:45 AM

Yeah, I know whatcha guys mean. I'm now really getting into this game.

I'm trying to beat all the endings. not really hard doing 'em, but its the finding them that's the tricky part!

yeah, also letting me know what percentage I've unlocked has awoken my completionist within and won't let me sleep til i see those three little numbers infront of that percent symbol.

MajLink

01-04-2009, 09:52 AM

^^^ I agree, finding when do beat it and achieve the correct endings is tough (w/o using the internet).

Gollgagh

01-05-2009, 02:10 PM

I always thought you were a bit older...

I am

I'm 21 in 4 days

It was taken from my younger siblings who were playing with it

NNY

01-05-2009, 09:53 PM

I am

I'm 21 in 4 days

It was taken from my younger siblings who were playing with it

I always thought you were a bit more assertive over your personal property....

Gollgagh

01-05-2009, 10:05 PM

eh hehe

Well they're paying for most of my college so I'm trying not to piss them off too much

(they're pretty close to kicking me out of the house as it is)

Red-Rupee

01-05-2009, 10:06 PM

I haven't played chrono trigger since my original SNES days so when I found out the DS version was coming out I was all over that (not that anything was stopping me from playing it before a dozen different ways....but you know, the DS has magic)

I was up through getting magus into my party when my DS was stolen at a convention this last weekend...alas my silver points are no more....

Katsurugi

01-07-2009, 05:03 AM

I have completed most of the side quests and am up to Lavos. I have to decide how to beat him though. I have only minimally finished the Lost Sanctum, but I don't really find that too important. I found the golden sand, looking for the young sapling. Then I realized that it's probably INSIDE the Lost Sanctum right? So all of the other young saplings (The Future and Antiquity) are useless. *sigh*

Right now, I'm probably aiming to learn all of the double and triple techs.