New Zelda movie trailer... [Archive] - OverClocked ReMix Forums

friendlyHunter

11-30-2008, 09:28 PM

Worse? The characters look WAY better, and the settings look fantastic. I think what they failed at was making a good trailer.

Most trailers for movies of this kind are more like teasers - they give you very little and leave you wanting more, but at the same time show you very little actual content on which to judge the movie (for better or worse). I think these guys tried to show too much, and so created a bad trailer. They crammed in WAY too much dialog, the trailer's editing looked rushed (they DID have a deadline), and the special effects didn't always look professional. But I think this may end up being a good movie (but who knows?)

They have an earlier trailer on their website, which I think I like better (despite using the official "this is an epic movie trailer" song). Even though this movie is real and IGN's April Fool's movie wasn't, this one looks like it would make a better movie (albeit far less professional and epic looking).

I just hope this movie will have a sense of humour - even the darkest of Zelda games have their share of laughs. I couldn't watch a full-length fan-made Zelda movie with no humour in it (even if it's just self-referential humour) :puppyeyes:

TheHands

11-30-2008, 09:32 PM

What frightens me is that I don't think this one's a joke.

MechaFone

11-30-2008, 10:11 PM

Uh...yeah...I liked the trailer from earlier this year. That at least had some dignity to it. This seems like they're actually trying to do dumb the series down in every way possible. Please don't release this to the public, please don't release this to the public...maybe if I say it enough it won't happen ><

friendlyHunter

11-30-2008, 10:26 PM

This seems like they're actually trying to do dumb the series down in every way possible.

Whaaaaat? I thought the exact opposite. The April Fool's trailer looked incredibly dumbed down to me, nothing but pretty visuals and OMG Triforce OMG Gannon OMG Zelda! On the other hand, this new one looks like the movie might, MIGHT have a somewhat deep story that actually has something to do with the original games. I certainly won't get my hopes up though =p

In before the "srsly guys Zelda games dos not have a deep story" post.

Bleck

11-30-2008, 10:28 PM

fuck the haters I want to see this

zircon

11-30-2008, 10:30 PM

Looks a little better than a student film, what's all the discussion about? It's obviously not an officially licensed movie.

SwordBreaker

11-30-2008, 10:35 PM

It's really not fair to compare this trailer to IGN's work. For one thing, like friendlyhunter said, IGN's trailer was fake. Also, IGN had a much bigger budget so they hired a professional company to make this trailer for them (Rainfall Films). The Hero of Time movie, on the other hand, is fan-made work that's a full-length feature. I've heard of this project a year or so ago, and I'm happy that these fans are ambitious enough to complete this task...despite not being as perfect as we all want.

Have you guys heard of the previous fan-made film called "The Legend of Link"? It was a completely humorous take on the Zelda franchise that made me laugh out loud numerous times. Plus, they've used music from OCR with credit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7573426796770713155
Part 1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8113238663847801210
Part 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7966235459721003522
Part 3

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7532616152204191764&hl=en
Credits

TheHands

11-30-2008, 10:37 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'll give it a chance when it's finished, but right now I'm not impressed at all with the trailer.

I hope for their sake that they don't plan on making any money off of it though, otherwise Nintendo does have the legal right to sue the crap out of them.

Raziellink

11-30-2008, 10:43 PM

My opinion? Seeing as it's all non-profit, the CGI is rather good, but it just looks like a porno without sex that got Zelda slapped onto it.

And honestly, the Link from the IGN trailer was better then this guy...

Geoffrey Taucer

12-01-2008, 12:01 AM

Oh my god the fake accents are PAINFUL!

The problem with making a Zelda movie is that if it's not completely and totally epic, it fails utterly.

I imagine this is similar to the challenge faced by the writers and directors of the Lord of the Rings movies -- had those been anything less than brilliant, they would have been critically panned and forever remembered as an insult to the books, even if they had been average or even above average movies in and of themselves.

Zelda is the same way. If it's not perfect it will be horrible. It cannot have even the faintest amount of success without an all-star cast, brilliant special effects, and an award-worthy director.

Ganon looks awful -- because he is slightly sub-perfect. In my opinion, there are very very few actors in the world who could pull off that part. Jack Nicholson could do it. Clint Eastwood could do it. Perhaps Willam Dafoe or Hugo Weaving. But that's it -- nobody else on the planet could hope to do that character justice.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zelda should never be a low-budget indy film. It should either be a spare-no-expense masterpiece of epic proportions ala Lord of the Rings, or it shouldn't exist at all.

Also, Link runs like he's constipated.

JH Sounds

12-01-2008, 12:07 AM

Jack Nicholson could do it. Clint Eastwood could do it. Perhaps Willam Dafoe or Hugo Weaving.

I bow before the master of typecasting. :-P

Geoffrey Taucer

12-01-2008, 12:12 AM

I bow before the master of typecasting. :-P

It's true, though! Those four have both the face and more importantly the menacing presence, something that very few actors can pull off properly.

Bleck

12-01-2008, 01:47 AM

I like how Taucer says Ganondorf has to be perfect - and then suggest a bunch of white guys who could play him :wink:

Geoffrey Taucer

12-01-2008, 03:05 AM

I like how Taucer says Ganondorf has to be perfect - and then suggest a bunch of white guys who could play him :wink:

He's green. I don't think what color he is under that will make much difference.

NNY

12-01-2008, 03:24 AM

Slightly better than the live action Twisted Metal "movie."

LuckyXIII

12-01-2008, 04:39 AM

Looks like something that would show up on the BBC, Sci-Fi, or PBS.

DJMetal

12-01-2008, 04:57 AM

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zelda should never be a low-budget indy film. It should either be a spare-no-expense masterpiece of epic proportions ala Lord of the Rings, or it shouldn't exist at all.

I pretty much agree.

zyko

12-01-2008, 05:25 AM

everybody knows i'd make the perfect ganondorf

this movie looks shit, even for an amateur low-budget film.

Yuiopdude

12-01-2008, 05:43 AM

ohhh... god... this doesn't even deserve to be a "Sci-fi Original," it looks so BAD... it should NOT happen... ever...

linkspast

12-01-2008, 05:44 AM

I believe Ganon could be played by some eastern actor like from India or something like that. The Gerudo look a lot like Arabs.

Ninja-san

12-01-2008, 06:26 AM

I want a movie of just Link hacking and slashing his way thru each monster.

None of that fantasy drama crap.

O and throw some sex scenes in it with those maidens from the 2nd zelda game that revived health.

Oscar material baby.

Brushfire

12-01-2008, 09:12 AM

THIS

WILL BE

THE

SINGLE

GREATEST

MOVIE

EVER!!!

If the final 2 acts of MGS4 hadn't already been made.

I-n-j-i-n

12-01-2008, 09:15 AM

That girl speaking in modern-speech-slur broke the illusion completely... Also, Ganon's voice should be digitally enhanced. That Ganon sounds like every nerd you hear over Xbox Live.

StandingInMotion

12-01-2008, 05:23 PM

As has been said, it's admirable that the guys that did this have taken it so far, but I tend to agree with Taucer in the fact that if a Zelda movie can't be done perfectly, it shouldn't be done at all.

I'll say it out flat: I'm a Zelda fanboy. Laugh if you want, but I can't watch a trailer like this and not point out every tiny thing that's done wrong, or looks random. For instance, I don't think any of the characters look anything like what they're supposed to (except maybe Ganondorf and Link), and even they look... odd.

Also, on a side note: anyone want to tell me who this little creepy guy is that's running around with Ganondorf in all of his shots? I didn't know Ganondorf had an adviser or whatever.

Strike911

12-01-2008, 05:38 PM

Studio Ghibli is the only group that should ever attempt a real Zelda movie.

That's all I have to say.

The Author

12-01-2008, 05:40 PM

As much as there is now some Peter Jackson hate, I'd like to see him try his hands at Zelda...

Rambo

12-01-2008, 05:45 PM

I expected this to be absolutely God awful by what everyone said! It was actually pretty decent. Easily the best effort I've ever seen. I used to watch Sinbad, Xena and Hercules on the weekends all the time when I was younger, and this looks just as well done. (looking back, thats not saying much) But given that its not being made by a big shot, that's quite impressive.

Geoffrey Taucer

12-01-2008, 07:39 PM

Studio Ghibli is the only group that should ever attempt a real Zelda movie.

That's all I have to say.

No. Just no.

Though perhaps IG could pull it off.

Bleck

12-01-2008, 07:40 PM

Ramaniscence

12-01-2008, 07:48 PM

The CG in this is actually REALLY impressive. But seriously

Seriously.

Seriously?

Seriously.

WHY is Ganon ALWAYS bright fucking green? Maybe a desaturated Olive, or a straight up brownish, or something...oh I don't know...a little more BELIEVABLE than fucking BRIGHT GREEN. I could stab some people for that shit. Who on your art direction staff let's that stuff pass?

Calpis

12-01-2008, 08:29 PM

maybe we should just not make video games into movies seeing as though so much of the medium is based heavily upon player interaction that whatever makes video games special will be lost upon hitting the big screen
Thank. You.

Bleck

12-01-2008, 08:45 PM

WHY is Ganon ALWAYS bright fucking green? Maybe a desaturated Olive, or a straight up brownish, or something...oh I don't know...a little more BELIEVABLE than fucking BRIGHT GREEN.

can anyone even show me any actual video game art in which ganondorf is green

I mean come on it's as if nobody has even been paying attention

Ramaniscence

12-01-2008, 09:03 PM

can anyone even show me any actual video game art in which ganondorf is green

I mean come on it's as if nobody has even been paying attention

http://www.freewebs.com/ganondorfs-domain/Ganondorf2.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/hidden09/hidden09.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/darth_08/ganondorf.jpg
http://www.latinogamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ganondorf.jpg

Sometimes SHADES of Green, but never GREEN green. People just have terrible color vision or something.

Bleck

12-01-2008, 09:10 PM

my skin has a greenish tint to it too that doesn't mean I'm a bloody lime

Geoffrey Taucer

12-02-2008, 02:41 AM

can anyone even show me any actual video game art in which ganondorf is green

I mean come on it's as if nobody has even been paying attention

http://www.northcastle.co.uk/archive/vault/desktop/paper8_1024.jpg

Definitely green, albeit a much darker green than what they use in the trailer.

friendlyHunter

12-02-2008, 03:34 AM

CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHICH PART OF HIS FACE IS GREEN??

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9780/movieganonid3.jpg

Is it the pale greyish-brownish part? Or do you think his makeup magically turns lime green when they LIGHT THE ROOM WITH GREEN LIGHTING??? Y'all are colour-blind. That colour-scheme they have going on there is 100% OOT Ganondorf. Well, maybe 96%.

The only lime-green Ganondorf is the one in the IGN trailer, and that's because that trailer sucked. At least this new one doesn't have a lime-green Ganondorf with massive goofy hair, and a Zelda who's so pale she looks like the undead.

TheHands

12-02-2008, 03:38 AM

Gannon should never look like the fruit in a Corona. Ever.

Ramaniscence

12-02-2008, 03:53 AM

Is it the pale greyish-brownish part?

I don't know when Ganondorf would ever be considered "pale" in Zelda. Growing up in the desert and all.

Also THIS is official OoT Ganondorf art, too:

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda05/Characters/OfficialArt/Ganon.gif

I also hate how everyone's clothes in fan-made movies look like crap. Not that they look like they were crappily made, but more they look like they were crappily made YESTERDAY. These people clean laundry in buckets. They dye their clothes with flower pigments. Link is constantly rolling in dirt and riding horse back. How is it his clothes look like they were cleaned ONCE with color safe bleach?

friendlyHunter

12-02-2008, 04:04 AM

Becuase Link's just been running around constipated since he got his tunic, and never had time to roll in dirt. I totally agree, 99% of fan made costumes look like cheap Halloween costumes.

And I agree that Ganondorf's face could have been quite a bit darker, but it is not too green. Heck, if you (not you specifially Rama) think that that OOT official fan art is Ganondorf's "real" skin colour, then they got the pale-ness and un-greenness just right in the trailer. If you're going to complain about colours, complain about Link's unnaturally bright blond hair!

[Edit]

And if you want to complain about bad Ganon interpretations, complain about these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkBnZ_VaFSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imlyVV0yYKo

[Edit]arg, spellcheckerrr!!!

Rambo

12-02-2008, 04:22 AM

Is it the pale greyish-brownish part?

I don't know when Ganondorf would ever be considered "pale" in Zelda.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda05/Characters/OfficialArt/Ganon.gif

The pale in "pale greyish-brownish" applies to the color, not his complexion. In the above picture his skin IS pale "greyish-brownish" (commonly referred to as an olive skin tone). But the color certainly isnt rich in the above. It's pale.

Ramaniscence

12-02-2008, 04:25 AM

The pale in "pale greyish-brownish" applies to the color, not his complexion. In the above picture his skin IS pale "greyish-brownish". Most people say colored olive skin tone. But it certainly isnt rich in the above. It's pale.

Desaturated color =! Pale. His complextion isn't PALE in that picture, just all the color values were brought up, to make EVERYTHING lighter. Even the BLACKS and DARK GREENS have pretty light areas.

Rambo

12-02-2008, 05:41 AM

Desaturated color =! Pale. His complextion isn't PALE in that picture, just all the color values were brought up, to make EVERYTHING lighter. Even the BLACKS and DARK GREENS have pretty light areas.

I bit my tongue 10 mins later, after I realised who I had quoted. Knew there would be trouble, lol. :roll:

I probably don't know even half as much as you do artistically. And I don't want to completely derail this thread. So I'm not going to make much of a fuss. So I'll rely on wikipedia to back me up, and then I'll shut up.

The pale in "pale greyish-brownish" applies to the color, not his complexion. But the color certainly isnt rich in the above. It's pale.

Desaturated color =! Pale. His complextion isn't PALE in that picture

A pale color is light or pastel version of a color. It has higher luminance, and lower chrominance or color saturation.

Ramaniscence

12-02-2008, 06:41 AM

So I'll rely on wikipedia to back me up, and then I'll shut up.

Desaturated means it's closer to gray. Totally desaturated colors are a shade of complete gray. It's true that pale colors are desaturated. They're closer to the brighter-greys, or white, but still pale. HOWEVER not all desaturated colors are pale. Dark gray is totally desaturated, but not pale, for instance.

So, like I said before, desaturated DOES NOT mean pale. Ganondorf is general portrayed with a darker skin-tone, which can be close to grayish, often somewhere between desaturated green and brown, but never PALE.

This is, of course, if I'm understanding what you're trying to say.

Regardless of whether or not he Nintendo intended him to be green-green, desaturated green, grey, brown, or purple the reality of the situation is if he's not within what we define in our heads as a realistic range of color for skin pigment (within the bounds of reason, and assuming we're putting him in a realistic 'live-action' setting), then it's going to look weird. The difference between making Mystique in the X-Men movies look like a darker blue and a smurf. And given Ganondorf's history. Being a boy raised in the desert, it would make sense to make him darker, because you don't run into many light-skinned people in the desert. I'm not saying he needs to be BLACK, or even middle-eastern looking, but definitely darker than most latins...and less orange.

Things that aren't nessacarily "real" but don't look "believable" ruin the entire setting. This is in the same vain as the clothes.

Linkjing Donuts

12-02-2008, 07:25 AM