OCR01171 - Metroid 'Kraid's Hideout'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[Trenthian]

::shiver:: GOOD STUFF!

when the rest of the orchestra comes in...

man that is like nails on chalkboard almost...

but in a good way if you can unserstand that...


its REALLY fitting for the mood... very scary, very... well metroid in my opinion.


I love the cello vs guitar a SHIT LOAD.


since it sounds like you are playing it yourself, would you be interested in being part of my band? I have some large projects planned for my game music related stuff in regards to OCR. :) (I have already been forming small ensembles for unsubmitted works, with plans for future submission.)

[Syl]

one of my fave renditions of Kraids Theme.

I got this off of their website month's ago, and i was glad i did that back then. Just as im glad more people will finally hear it now.

A haunting, depressing, lonely kraid theme, tis something that has to be heard... Nice deviation from the typical heavy versions.

[MolotovCocktaiL]

This sounds similar to something by Rasputina, sans singing. The strings are wonderfully reminiscent, and whatever is 'wrong' with this piece sounds clearly intentional to one who listens to this kind of music rather often.

Bravo Select Start!
Excellent, one of my favorites at Overclocked.

[KyleJCrb]

AHAHAHAHA! PROT GOT PWN3D BY DJP! BWAHAHAHAHA!


Oh, and I've had this for months. Still cool, though. :P

[jessthemullet]

Usually, when something is out of tune, it bugs the hell out of me. And most times, I'm the only one around who notices it. However, in this case, the odd (bad?) intonation seems to add to the mood of the piece. As opposed to making it suck, like out of key/bad sounding stuff usually does. It gives the piece a very distinct mood, and I love it.

EDIT: After hearing it a few times, it's almost addicting to hear the way the strings play. The more I hear it, the more I think that it's intentionally tuned that way. It's a new favorite of mine.

[Tansunn]

I don't mind the tuning issues all that much, but the way the lead violin slowly pans to the right before the rest of the ensemble comes in just really bugs me. No complaints about the rest of it, although it gives me an odd sort of "Metroid meets Dracula" vibe.

[Zaphlin]

Whoa! I like I like! I wasn't ever expecting to hear this song done with strings but it is very nice!

[MistaZanMan]

hot fucking damn. damn....and again....damn. That's what i call beauty. No sarcasm here. I LOVE the tone of this piece, it fits the soul of the metroid games a lot better than most remixes i've heard do. Not to say every single theme from metroid should be dark and creepy, but this piece works soooo well with that kind of tone that its impossible for you to not like it. I dont know if they intended to have so many notes be off, but if they did, I applaud. It works. Damn well too. Kudos to you Select Start. Stay funky.[/i]

[Shyldd]

Simply. Amazing. I give you guys props for doing this. It reminds me the String Quartet Tribute to Nine Inch Nails. Which, if any of you haven't heard, that alone is amazing too. Defintely in the mood and tone of this. I'm always excited to find people trying different a genre then the usual list of genres that get over played with most remixes. I eagerly await your next submission! :D

[nostalgic gen]

Ah, cool stuff. It's nice to see that OCR has grown outside of fruity loops finally. Whether intentional or not, the off-notes add bags of character and atmosphere to the tune and (perhaps luckily) really compliment the eerie style well.

I'm glad the judges let this one through because, although there's undoubtedly room for improvement, this tune is the essence of what OCR is about for me. :)

[Flare4War]

When I read DJ's review it made me expect less than this remix was but it was all worth it for when he hashed Protricity. lmfao

I love this theme I think more people should persue it.

Not a bad mix and definitely a good first submission.

[Xelebes]

The clashing intonalities of this piece, however off they may be give it a real foreign feel, like something alien. That's probably a good thing since the game took place on another planet.

[damathacus]

Absolutely awesome. I loved this. The tuning, intentional or no, worked perfectly. Remember, some of the greatest discoveries in history were accidents.

[Riddler Sensei]

Ow....I did not like this one bit. Sorry to everyone else who seems to have loved it. The otherworldly effect can be produced just fine without creating such sudden and unnecessarily edgy dissonance. The "creepy" effect could have been achieved just as well (if not better) without using such annoying phrasing and such. Perhaps a viola would have been a better choice for a main intrument rather than a violin, also. It's just so piercing. I, personally, see no reason why the judges let this one through.

This song just annoys me....

[Xana Taol Vlas Nedak]

I don't think Riddler Sensei could have said it better. This is painful.

[reelmojo]

I kind of agree with Riddler Sensei to a degree. While I applaud the guitar playing, the violin just seems to ruin it for me. The part that starts at :52 seems to work with the off-keyness, but the simply playing the melody over the guitar just sounds annoying to me. :?

[kamoh]

You know, the idea is good, the composition is VERY good I think, and so is the recording quality, but the performance falters tremendously...unfortunately I know first hand how hard it is to get an orchestra to be in tune (at least at the high school level).

Other people are saying that the out-of-tuneness has something to do with helping the piece...I'm inclined to disagree, but still the merits outweigh the downsides. A little long for a metroid non-medley remix...I still give it my vote for an OCR...but just barely.

Again, excellent compsition and solid recording.

[Kamikaze Noodle]

I think they intentionally had things slightly out of tune.
If not, well kick me in the goiter, cuz it really does add. All we need are some cheesy scream samples at :53 and we're set.
Damn nice work. Very different, but still awesome.

[Protricity]

When I read DJ's review it made me expect less than this remix was but it was all worth it for when he hashed Protricity. lmfao.
DJP was nonetheless accurate in his hashing. When someone as great and infallible as I am eventually makes a semi-mistake (I suppose its bound to happen at least once after all these years), that it is truly an event.

To clarify, my NO had nothing to do with sound quality or tuning. Rather, I did not like the arrangement at all. Song is barely more than a cover, and while it works as that, this website is not for covers or genre changes, but for rearrangements and remixes.
If more attention was paid to the messy keys at 1:00, and more effort was put forth into rearrangement, this song would have been much improved.
Regardless, it was worth mentioning that the lacking attention to tune and recording indeed cut the song down a bit.

[PerLichtman]

Having recently had a performance of one of my art music pieces that was hampered by tuning difficulties and missed pitches, I was prepared to not like this piece. However, for the most part, I didn't really think about it. There are several notable exceptions but generally it wasn't something I paid much attention to. As far as whether the cumulative effect of the altered tuning generally helped or hurt the piece, that's for other people to decide. On the other hand, I really liked the arrangement and the recording quality of the instruments. I disagreed with the use of dynamic pans but overall I like this mix a lot more than I thought I would. Congratulations to the artists.

[The3rdMan]

I think this is quite excellent. It reminds me of a layed back version of the theme from Psycho (and, strangely, the theme from Young Frankenstein...). The violin is quite haunting, and works well with the overall effect, especially in tandem with the guitar (both performed very well in my opinion...not everyone is required to be a virtuoso when playing music).

It does seem like a bit of a cover, but nonetheless, I think it has enough going for it on its own to be considered a remix.

As for the tuning, I have no problem with it. In fact I quite like it. Whether it be intentional or not it (as was said before) it adds a lot of character.

(By the way, the bit with the cello and the guitar is brilliant!).

[Neimonster]

So this is finally on here, eh? I've had it for a long time, as with Select Start's other mixes. They're very good in my opinion, and this is a great piece.



Perhaps a viola would have been a better choice for a main intrument rather than a violin, also.
Well, since it's performed with live instruments, I think they used what they had. :)

[Justamos3]

PerLichtman, I just listened to a Xenogears remix of yours and was wondering if that beat in the background was from the anime Berserk?
Oh and nice music :D

[Fieari]

I was also prepared not to like this one... but listening to it changed my mind. I think I'm going to have to sit in the "dissonance helping the piece" camp. To my ears, this song sounds like it is performed by someone in anguish and is wailing out his weeping and gnashing of teeth... in tune wouldn't have captured that "I'm in pain" feeling. Sometimes, listening to music like this can really draw out your own pain and just let it fly out into the sky... when you've gone too long without a good wailing cry, having someone help you with it can be really cathartic.

Love this. Pour out your soul and let it rip across the atmosphere. Woo!

A good example of some of the really cathartic wailing moments are 0:52-1:10. Play it, and just let it flow through you...

[Paragon]

At first, I knew there was something off about it, but I didn't realize that it was a microtone/tuning issue and not an intentional "classical dissonance" thing.

Either way the only section it really affects for me is the one at 0:52 (and when that part repeats, of course). The main-melody-over-guitar part is easily one of the most haunting pieces of a remix I've heard. . .helped in part by the fact that these are LIVE INSTRUMENTS. I have tremendous respect for someone who can not only play, but also manage to record an acoustic live instrument like the violin or cello.

Contrabass is cooler, though.

[Scrabble_Ship]

Has a nice touch. Very well done.

[Andrew]

I am very fond of this piece! The adjusted tuning adds an incredible effect. We LaMonte Young fans certainly appreciate music that doesn't restrict itself to the twelve tones. It is not arranged classically, but is this really a classical piece to begin with? I believe the mood of the piece to be an unusual mission in outer space, and I believe that the mood was very well-performed in this arrangement.

[The Instrument of GAWD]

I love the sounds of violins... but this song reminded me of listening to a kid playing a violin solo badly at a school concert and everyone is chringing at the sound.

Sorry but, "No sir, I don't like it."

[Ethereal Moon]

Absolutely chilling.

It makes me think of an old fashioned streetside trio band in a poor country; not exactly the best music, but the most soulful.

[Alzheimers]

I wanted to like this song. I really did. In fact, I'm still *trying* -- I've moved it onto my MP3 player so I can listen to it on the way to work.

It's just .... you know when you see a painting done by a high-school art student? You see the theme...you can make out the details...but the polish just isn't there? The sloppy brushtrokes take away rather than add to the effect of the work?

Same difference. It was a brilliant idea -- very Apocalyptica (And I prefer their stuff to the real thing for some songs!) It's just the little details that keep getting in the way of the final result. For example, there are moments when the notes are (unintentionally) out of step, and you can hear in the next notes the rush to catch up. The A-B transitions are very jarring, again not intentionally but almost as if they were recoreded separately and then pasted together as an afterthought. The guitar is very hard to hear, which may or may not be a problem with A) their recording equipment B) The MP3 encoding process C) My headphones, but I can almost hear how it's *supposed* to sound, which just adds to my effort to appreciate the work.

I would really hope that, should they get a spare afternoon, they put some practice in and really re-record this one. It's so worth doing *right* that it's a shame to release it as it is. The second time I listened to it, I was walking down Museum Mile on 5th avenue in NYC, and I had visions of a string quartet, in full performance regalia, on a wide open stage, with five thousand well-to-do ladies and gentlemen watching on from the darkness, slowly nodding their heads to the theme from Kraid's Hideout! High Culture, indeed!

[eNvy]

It's not bad, but, I got a pretty decent laugh out of it...

At the very very end, on the last note, there's some sort of vocal-ness-thing.

And it made me smile.

[ella guro]

I have to agree with Protricity here - I really don't see very much expansion on the original, and given that the mix has only a few instruments playing at a time and everything is always a little off (which can get really grating and irritating). The sound is definitely appealing and fits the piece, but I wonder how much better this could be if the instruments were tuned to each other and if the playing got a little more involved and expanded a little more on the original. Still, it's a good idea...it's just sloppy.

And that ending...ENRGH!11

[Typhun]

This is my favorite song from the Metroid Series of games. It has such a unique sound, and it has been remixxed very nicely. Great work with it.

[Troika]

Infinitely creepy. This reminds me of a movie I probably never saw. Almost like a combination of some random halloween music and a happy Newfie fiddle song. This is the kind of stuff that gives kids nightmares.

Anyway, there's a bit of empty space at the begining that needs cutting. You know how much I hate waiting.

[damathacus]

When I read DJ's review it made me expect less than this remix was but it was all worth it for when he hashed Protricity. lmfao.
DJP was nonetheless accurate in his hashing. When someone as great and infallible as I am eventually makes a semi-mistake (I suppose its bound to happen at least once after all these years), that it is truely an event.

To clarify, my NO had nothing to do with sound quality or tuning. Rather, I did not like the arrangement at all. Song is barely more than a cover, and while it works as that, this website is not for covers or genre changes, but for rearrangements and remixes.
If more attention was payed to the messy keys at 1:00, and more effort was put forth into rearrangement, this song would have been much improved.
Regardless, it was worth mentioning that the lacking attention to tune and recording indeed cut the song down a bit.

It's a mega-event! Like when electronics stores sell stereos at 75% off because the boss went crazy.[/b]

[Nigel Simmons]

EEEK! I really can't stand the out-of-tune strings on this one. I mean, they are WAY out of tune, and painfully so. It's a shame because if they WERE in tune, it would sound nice ... Ugh ... That ending is horrid. Heheh. I can hear someone making an odd sound there at the end.

Funny, but not surprising, to see that Protricity thought the strings were fake. ;)

[TheBaConMan]

im sorry..
I must be a "loner" on this one.. But if you ask me .. This remix is terrible.. its off key. That guy's violin either needs some serious tuning or just plain dragged out and shot.

Of course me being a Big fan of the Kraid Music..
this has put me down .. alot.
I can't even stress what i just said enough nor go into details..


Basically..
This remix is lame.
Violin needs help.
:x

[Nigel Simmons]

You're not alone. I think it's pretty terrible, also.

[Anonymous]

OK, wow, this pretty much sucks. Violin is horribly horribly out of tune and there's very little actual rearrangement. It's also painfully obvious that the violinist is rather mediocre. The parts where it's just the violin and the guitar playing the same notes over and over gets quite boring after a while - how about something interesting and new? When the cello gets in its a bit better, and sounds very "spooky", but a few seconds of something interesting doesn't save almost 4 minutes of crap. The ending is awful as well. Sorry to Select Start, but try (a lot) harder next time.

One good thing: their site is sort of cool.

*deletes song*

[Leusugi]

Of those I have listened to, this is the only remix of this song that captures the same mood I felt while I was actually playing Metroid all those years ago. That fact by itself is enough to make me say I like this remix.

[LightCecil]

Dunno why I like this song. People have pointed out numerous errors in tuning and playing, but it just really gets the mood right. I think people should stop being retro-audiophiles, but it's your opinion.

BTW, is it just me or does anyone else hear the metronome in the beginning?

[Never Winter Knight]

I love the use of the violin, its perfect for this selection

[Falcovsleon20]

Whoah this is a sweet mix. Reminds me of the orchestral work HAL used in SSBM! Combine that with the fact that this is my favorite Metroid song and you've got a dead ringer! This is the kind of work I wish to see implemented in a DKC2 Jib Jig remix. (Violins and other brass and wood wind instraments but with wind blowing effects and flapping pirate flag noises.) You've earned yourself a 10/10 Select Start.

EDIT: I don't see why people find this song so bad. The violin doesn't sound out of tune to me. Where's the love? :( Maybe it's just my speakers.

[quoda]

I actually liked this. It reminded me a lot of an old horror movie soundtrack or something. Yes, there are parts where the tuning problems sound bad, but for the most part it really puts the entire theme into a creepier perspective. Good stuff!

[gm_jyoo]

Great song... Interesting idea for how to arrange this song... but DANG, these people seriously need to learn how to tune their instruments. It hurts my ears at times to listen to this song.
Other than that... this makes a kick arse remix... I hope that there are more like it! (I happen to love orchestral/techno and piano remixes the best.

[tgfoo]

it's a pretty good arrangement, but damn, this has the one thing that really truly annoys me about music, it's outta tune. I'm one of those people who has problems playing my piano when it's slightly outta tune (when most other people don't even notice it). But it's still a pretty good arrangement though.

[AnnaMayBelle]

Just this weekend, I was privliged to have front-row center seating to see Select Start play live at JACON 2004. I had also seen them earlier this year, at Anime Express VII. All I can say is, this MP3 does not do them justice... While it is an excelent remix, they are FAR better in person. While they are out of tune, I actually think it lends itself well in some parts (for instance, starting at the 0:52 mark)... it gives it an eerie, haunting sound.

If you live in Florida, do yourself a favor and attend one of their concerts. I believe they'll be playing next at DreamCon (a sci-fi/fantasy/anime con in Jacksonville, Florida). You can find their schedule here (http://plaza.ufl.edu/wuli32/).

I hope to see more of their remixes come up on OCRemix... especially their new acapello Mario theme.

[Trepie Number 3]

at first when i heard the mix, it was bothering my ears...but after hearing it a couple times over, i started to love it. it's just a chilling mix that deserves unintentional praise, the tuning, although off, really works for this song...cept for maybe the strings at around 3'15

[Mongoosedog]

I dunno bout you, but the creepy atmosphere of this song gives me the mental image of Kraid playing the violin in his dark, creepy den. That's pretty dang weird, even for Kraid, but you have to admit, a big fat space monster on the violin is a creepy thought.

[RimFrost the Tourianist]

Indeed it is creepy this piece of work ..I LOVED IT !

go go Kraid ! ..nail that little b**** girl to the wall 8)

[Neonlare]

This isn't Sinister, it's Evil. The Violin in the foreground and the echoing of it gives a sort of transilvania feel to it, WELL DONE!

[SirLouie]

Hey, does this sound out of tune? (waits for chair to be thrown)

Seriously though - I had some issues with this piece. I enjoyed the simplicity and REALness of it. There is definitely something about a live performance (metronome included) that is captivating.

The tuning, whether intentional or not, was a bad taste in my mouth. It sounded okay until the part at 0:52. As haunting as the dissonance (or rather, tonal inconsistency?) was, it certainly did remind me of cringing at a grade-school violin recital. In my opinion, the violin (when played well) is an expressive enough instrument that renders "scary tuning" unnecessary.

With that said, although 0:52 sticks in my mind like a thorn ... it seems to be a thorn that I can't remove. I can't decide whether I want to run away and hide or relieve my soul of all hope in despair at the emotions it evokes. I think with proper tuning, I would have had a much more touching experience. It makes the difference between a scratch on the face and a caress on the cheek.

I enjoyed the expression and panning of the instruments. A slight turn at 1:27 caught me off guard, but was interesting. At 2:02, the violins sounded good together. The cello was exceptionally well placed with the guitar at 2:19. 3:11 seemed unusually bright to me (in comparison with 2:02), and at 3:29 there was an unnatural silencing of the instruments that made it seems as though that part of the song was cut-and-pasted.

As for the ending... the harsh mis-tuned string at 3:39 really grated at me ... but at 3:47, I was impressed by two decent sounding delayed violins, and a magnificent unresolved measure, gracefully slowing to a stop.

So do I like this remix? I'm not sure. But I can't bring myself to delete it, and I'll give it a listen every once in a while...

I'd like to listen to more of Select Start's material to see if it's less ghastly, whether it's inappropriate ghastliness or not.

[FuzzFactory]

I think this is really a great arrangement for this piece. I'd love to hear this exact arrangement with the tuning issues fixed and the mix reworked a bit (the actual "mix"). Perhaps just a bit less repetition of the main theme would be nice too. All the parts are very intricate and well thought out though - particularly the cello part on the second half - very creative.

Let's hear someone remix the Tourian theme!

[jordex]

i actually like how the tunings off, like other people said, it adds to the creepiness of the song

[killthrush]

Ugh, this track is wretched. Yep, I'm one of those cent-sensitive assholes.

I love the idea of playing this loop - one of my favorites of all time - on live instruments, but it just doesn't work this time. Sorry. There's really no excuse for having something that's this out of tune when you've got Sound Forge cracks floating around on KaZaA.

2/10 overall.

[darkarchonisme]

why does it bother you that the violin is 'out of tune'? isn't it possible that being 'in tune' is only a small part of the spectrum of sounds an instrument can make? If the Artist wants to use something unconventional, why shouldn't he? hell, isn't that half of what OCRemix is all about?

[Kadosho]

Wonder how I missed this one..
This version of "Kraid's theme" is alright.
Sure some notes may be offkey, doesnt really hinder the song from still being good.
Never thought Kraid's theme could be done in violin..

[FinalGamer]

I like this. Kraid's Hideout done by violin was a good idea, and it's played well, with a somewhat haunting and daunting melody.

[HunterKiller]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.
I can't think. Thats how awesome this is. I've been playing in an orchestra for 4 years now and we have a great solo violinist so I'm used to hearing solo pieces. This was really neat though. Also very creepy, which is just the way I like Metroid.

[TaterChipMonster]

By default, the sound sin the beginning drew my attention. It was the familiar sound of metronome, I believe. And then some one shifted in their seat. I was thinking that I was about to hear some sweet instrumentals. I must admit the sounds of the starting melody strings made me start a happy smirk. This was sounding good, already. And then that solo violin overpowered the white noise of my room. From then on, it was all downhill. Every twist and turn of the original tune made me grin with ideas of how to portray characters in verse and prose, each one more depressing than the next. The variations were a lovely desert. Regardless of a few tuning problems, this is among my top tracks to listen to late into the night.

[Czar Diego]

This is awesome. the creepyness of it reminds me of Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saens. Yes, the tuning is iffy, but to me the pros outweigh the cons. Great work.

[The3rdMan]

I know this is a bit late to say, but for those of you who had issues with the dissonance/tuning:

A composer friend of mine told me that, were this tuned perfectly, it would be way too sweet. In her words:

"It wouldn't be Kraid's Hideout, it'd be...'Kraid's Cottage'"

Interesting point, I must say.

[Diabolik]

I'll second all of the positive comments that others have made about this track. This is one of the first pieces of music that I found on this site that really impressed me and showed me that the quality of music here goes way beyond "novelty" techno remixes of old Nintendo music. Someone really needs to hire Select Start to write the score for a horror movie.

[RoyanRannedos]

I happen to agree with the need for tuning on this one, fellas. When you use real strings and they aren't tuned, there's a faint essence of cat that tends to raise the hair on the back of the next. I like the arrangement and the original song, but the tuning ruins it for me.

[seiyojin]

I have to agree with the tuning issues, sometimes it was worse than at others, but by the end it was giving me a bit of a headache. Which is a real, real shame as I think that the strings are a really nice change from the rest of the metroid remixes. I would certainly listen to this over and over if the tuning issues were fixed. :)

[theredkatana]

I agree; I could clearly hear the bad tuning and it was even off-key at some points. However, I really like this song. The bad tuning gives it an exquisitely depressing tone. It's really creepy. In my opinion, listening to this song is like listening to a rock song played backwards; it sounds inhumanely creepy, but is very interesting to listen to. Then again, I wonder what THIS song would sound like played backwards. Woah, gave me chills just thinking of it! 8O

Red Katana out :wink:

[MedHead]

I knew there was something off about this song, but I didn't know what it was. It didn't really ever bother me; in fact, that "offness" is what makes me like this track. Knowing that it's offtune doesn't change my opinion about the song.

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[about:blank]

I have to say that I absolutely love this take on kraid's theme, it sounds like it was all played live, but I could definitely be wrong. I really like the off tune nature of this mix too. Especially around 00:52 when the "chorus" comes in, I think someone else here described it as "nails on a chalkboard" but in a good way, and I couldn't have said it better. It's everything that I've ever wanted to do with mixing but couldn't (due to lack of skills/money). With this all being said, i think this mix deserves a 5 out of 5 rating.

[SnakeIz]

Little update for ya'll

http://www.selectstartband.com/Select%20Start%20-%20Kraid's%20Hideout.mp3

[KogeJoe]

Honestly, you need to get good players before attempting anything like this. I could hear the good intentions, but this piece falls flat on its face.

Forget the out of tune strings, where's the bass when I needed it? Left the lone guitar out to dry. Perhaps you made the last runs easier on the violin? It really sucks when people can't get the melody right...

Sorry, this is one of my favorite Metroid tunes, and it was ruined. Absolutely ruined.

Don't do a Metroid piece ever again.

[paladin777]

I just started listening to it, and I definitely think the off tune is intentional, as it is off-tune the same way every time, and no one who plays an instrument has that bad hearing to know that it's off (let alone 6 people who make up the band), I play violin and this is seriously EXTREMELY off the beaten path, but I can't stop listening to it, morbid fascination is an excellent way to describe it.

Paladin777-out

[Lucentas]

I think the off-pitch adds a certain eclecticity (I'm going to pretend that's a word) to the piece that takes it beyond what could have just been a simple cover; Kraid is a creepy guy, he's not going to have a spick-and-span tidy little string arrangement, it's going to be out of wack, it's going to be demented, it's going to sound like this. It's unusual and I like it.

[JP_Wright]

This piece really presents a spooky, things-aren't-quite-right atmosphere that, frankly, is embellished by the tuning 'errors'. Intentional or not, they do indeed accentuate the uneasiness of the track -- of the titular situation, namely approaching the hideout of a gargantuan beast (which calls into question the logistics of his having a 'hideout') who longs to kill/eat you.

[Marmiduke]

There's some harsh opinions on this one, evidentally.
Look, I think this is pretty simple, no matter how you look at it. It's biggest creative stamp is the fact that it is out of tune, so it doesn't win me over on the arrangement side. It's a song that is suited for piano being played by a live string quartet. That's cool, and I think it works extremely well.
If this mix does something wrong, it's the fact that it doesn't do anything except whine out the Kraid theme. The different combinations of instruments working together in different sections of the mix are definately interesting and do evoke a dreadful, moody atmosphere, but I don't think this has much to say. I do wish that there was an off-center arrangement to go with the off-center musicality.
Regardless, this is nowhere near as bad as all the pro in-tune picketers would have had me believe. Or rather, the tuning is far from the mix's biggest setback.

[OA]

besides the aforementioned tuning issues, this was pretty nice; the super spacious sound made it feel very desolate and creepy, and Though the arrangement was conservative, there were enough unique touches to really give it personality. I am amazed that Select Start formed in 2002, how time flies. :-)

[HaMSt3rBoT]

I dunno what most of you guys are bantering on about regarding the off key tune, but after listening to this frankly amazing track, I didn't notice a SINGLE tune out of place. Having played the Metroid remake on the GBA, from the same year, this song is identical, and this remix is a rendition worthy of two Samus Aran thumbs up!

[HaMSt3rBoT]

Wait, I stand corrected, I was under the impression that it was the main theme, but even so, it took me 7 plays and Armcannon's friggin badass version to notice it, so no complaints here, still a superb remix.

[Liontamer]

I definitely could have gone for more interpretation, but this got it done in '04. LOL at every 2004 hater on this track, swarming in quickly just to crap on it. Can't believe how closed-minded those reviews are. Let them get the wax out of their ears.

This was a great listen, forget what those idiots said. Especially KogeJoe, one of the dumbest dumbshits that ever posted on OC ReMix. (Good riddance :lol: ) The mood was excellent, and the tuning was nothing but a benefit to that dark mood. It's Kraid, you idiots; it fits like a glove.

[ella guro]

I definitely could have gone for more interpretation, but this got it done in '04. LOL at every 2004 hater on this track, swarming in quickly just to crap on it. Can't believe how closed-minded those reviews are. Let them get the wax out of their ears.

This was a great listen, forget what those idiots said. Especially KogeJoe, one of the dumbest dumbshits that ever posted on OC ReMix. (Good riddance :lol: ) The mood was excellent, and the tuning was nothing but a benefit to that dark mood. It's Kraid, you idiots; it fits like a glove.

Hey, no need to get mean.

I do like reading this thread and other review threads so I can be embarrassed by some of my older posts. I do actually really like the timbre of the out of tune violin now, and think this has a haunting/off-kilter sound that really works for the source. I don't really think the arrangement goes nearly as far as it could/should but what's there is pretty effective anyway.