Wild Arms: ARMed and DANGerous - History [Archive]

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

01-20-2009, 06:18 PM

Hmmm. They remade this game for PS2. Are any of the tracks different?

Also, some forum heavy-hitters might swing around to tell you this, but it's difficult to jump into managing a project if you're not well-established in the community. Now yes, you're the wife of a well-known remixer and you've been listening to remixes for quite some time, but if people don't know you well personally it's not easy to stay on their backs to submit tracks. I've been an active poster for over two years and right now I don't think any project I managed would get very far. Hopefully that will change, but down the line.

Yes, Alter Code F. WONDERFUL remake.. The soundtrack was replaced with new music, though.

Yeah, Jordan and I have talked about the difficulty of a project. But this is just to test and see if anyone is interested first. Nothing is going to be done quite yet. I am willing to be more involved in the community and to learn what I need to.

01-20-2009, 06:25 PM

Hit me up on AIM or PM me- I might have some info that could help you out. :-)

The Vagrance

01-20-2009, 07:06 PM

I'm almost always up for projects, just because I get to have more fun with the remix than normal since I'm not worrying about pleasing the judges.

Flare4War

01-20-2009, 07:26 PM

Awesome game. Great soundtrack also.

K.B.

01-20-2009, 08:53 PM

I'm up for grunt work (menial tasks that don't require musical or web-design skill). I know that's not the help you really need, especially at this juncture, but if I can help I'd love to.

Great soundtrack, yes. More than enough there for at least one disk's worth of mixes.

EDIT: Jade, you might want to go with Wild Arms Complete Tracks for your track listing, since the Wild Arms OST leaves off more than half of the tracks and some of these left off are quite good and/or memorable (Wild Arms, Power Fighter, After The Chaos And Destruction, Marsh Where The Migrant Birds Gather, Kishum Flame, Battle Demon, The Prologue Begins From Here, etc). Also, the OST is chronologically whacked-out; Complete Tracks isn't perfect chronologically but it's much better. See: wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Arms_albums), rpgfan (http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/wa-complete/index.html).

Also FYI: Zophar's minipsf library has the OST but is missing the first nine tracks; it has most of the tracks left off the OST but these are in random order. If this project garners interest I'd be happy to retitle, reorder, and re-rar these (and throw in the missing tracks as mp3s, if we can do that) so potential remixers can get a good listen to all the tracks. See: zophar's (http://www.zophar.net/music/psf/wild-arms.html).

Brandon Strader

09-09-2009, 04:51 AM

I've never played the games but if you ever start the project, you can consider me interested. I do it for the music more than gameplay nostalgia.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-09-2009, 05:11 AM

lol Considering I was bashed to death with even proposing the idea, I lost interest in this thread. I hope someday there is such a project.

LuketheXjesse

09-09-2009, 05:13 AM

I'll do whatever tracks are good for metal, if I find the time.

Brandon Strader

09-09-2009, 06:47 PM

lol Considering I was bashed to death with even proposing the idea, I lost interest in this thread. I hope someday there is such a project.
OC ReMix strikes again.

Honestly, I've found the people and community to be very unspirational for creating music. If you want it done, you should just do it for yourself and keep at it. The people who say you "can't" do it because you're not well known enough are just morons. Making music has nothing to do with a person's popularity. Besides, you could be very popular in different music scenes outside of OCR. That line is just an excuse for them to be lazy and ignorant.

I mean... the people here are great, and very nice. :)

DarkeSword

09-09-2009, 08:20 PM

OC ReMix strikes again.

Honestly, I've found the people and community to be very unspirational for creating music. If you want it done, you should just do it for yourself and keep at it. The people who say you "can't" do it because you're not well known enough are just morons. Making music has nothing to do with a person's popularity. Besides, you could be very popular in different music scenes outside of OCR. That line is just an excuse for them to be lazy and ignorant.

I mean... the people here are great, and very nice. :)
You're the one who's ignorant. Nobody has ever implied that you have to be popular to make good music.

Brandon Strader

09-09-2009, 08:46 PM

You're the one who's ignorant. Nobody has ever implied that you have to be popular to make good music.
They have but I don't feel like rummaging through all of my logs to make you a compilation of all of it. And I know you won't be satisfied until I do. So I'll just leave it at that.

DarkeSword

09-09-2009, 09:27 PM

They have but I don't feel like rummaging through all of my logs to make you a compilation of all of it. And I know you won't be satisfied until I do. So I'll just leave it at that.
No, people have said that if you're going to head up a remix project you should be more known so that people are willing to work with you. Nobody has ever said anything that equates popularity to proficiency.

As always, you form your opinions by reading half of what people say and making up the rest.

Brandon Strader

09-09-2009, 09:57 PM

DarkeSword

09-10-2009, 12:22 AM

I'm not going to argue the differences between being "well known" and "popular"... that's.... yeah. Whenever someone tries to start a project, the gargoyles descend and scare them away. This thread is a perfect example of that. And it was done to me as well, but I didn't give up.

Again, you demonstrate your complete lack of comprehension skills. The point wasn't to differentiate between "well known" and "popular," it was to differentiate between writing music and organizing a project.

Composing music and organizing a collaborative effort between multiple artists are different things. And there are no "gargoyles" descending to "scare them away." It's helpful advice to tell someone, "you should be a more active and visible member of the community if you want to organize a project." How on Earth is that a bad thing? The ONLY person who said anything to that effect in the thread was Pezman, and even then he did so very civilly and helpfully.

Stop making negative generalizations about the OC ReMix community because you're too ignorant to understand basic advice.

Brandon Strader

09-10-2009, 01:48 AM

@Jade

If it means anything, I took a course in project management. I may not be well known here but I've got plenty of project management experience. Still, you're relying on people you have no direct contact to so it's pretty irrelevant.

@Meteo's future post

Same here. :p

Meteo Xavier

09-10-2009, 04:09 AM

Getting this project back ON TRACK, I might be interested. Send me a PM when/if this project gets to a serious stage (which might be next year, realistically, which would be great for me) and I'll see what I can do for you.

abg

09-10-2009, 07:18 AM

evktalo

09-10-2009, 11:44 AM

I'm not familiar with the game or soundtrack myself, but I could ask a friend (who does trance) if he was interested, as I remember he quite liked the soundtrack.

--Eino

ProjectSpam

09-10-2009, 11:48 PM

Into the Wilderness will have to be really awesome.

Of course, in general, I would love to hear more Into the Wilderness ReMixes.

... and the rest of the soundtrack is good, too. Loved this game back in 5th grade or so.

Global-Trance

09-10-2009, 11:59 PM

Is this just the very first Wild Arms? I'd love to see reworks of some of the other Wild Arms games too but perhaps it's asking too much to consider the idea of a project that encompasses the very best of all Wild Arms? Either way, Wild Arms needs more love please.

Emunator

09-11-2009, 06:44 AM

@Jade: You should take a look at the first couple pages of the thread for the Xenogears project (http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4380). The poor guy got off to a bad start with lots of people telling him "you can't do it". Yet, here we are now and the project is a couple weeks away from release (which I've been anticipating :-)). Don't let people get you down, if you want to see this project become reality, then you can make it happen!
Exactly what I was coming in here to say. If you're really motivated and you've done your homework, it's possible to succeed and I'd wish you all the best of luck with the project if you end up moving forward with it :-) As far as I'm concerned you've got more credibility and reputation than Foxhull did when he started the Xenogears project and that project got finished despite some setbacks and opposition, so if you're up for it I think it's something within your reach.

Plus, any project spearheaded by you has the potential to be that "EVERY TRACK IN THIS PROJECT IS BY BLINDD" project that BGC referenced in another thread, and we'd all love for that to happen :-P

Kinslayer

09-12-2009, 12:04 AM

Well, I'd gladly love to help out on a Wild Arms Project, while I'm not familiar with the soundtrack of the first game, I have played the second one and plan on venturing through the whole series, I'm in full support of the project, I can try to help with some financial backing, but that's something that will be hard to come by, however, I'm more than proficient with Dreamweaver and I'd be more than willing to help with designing labels and images for the soundtrack and project site. I can also help you with management if it comes down with it. I very much like what I have played in the series and I'll attempt to borrow the first one from my friend who owns them all...play it to completion so I can familiarize myself better with the music.

Also, remixers interested in the project, I can contribute vocals...that's about all the ability I have with music production at the moment. I'm learning FL Studio 8 and I'm not very good yet.

Don't give up hope!!! There are people here willing to help and support you!

Dj Mokram

09-12-2009, 02:01 AM

Wild Arms is a wonderful game from which I have fond memories, especially the music.
Ever since I discovered the remix community, I thought about remixing Michiko Naruke's work for it.
While I'm far from being skilled enough for that right now, I still strongly support the idea, and would love to get involved at some point.

Don't give up Jade. Just try again later because I'm sure you'll have plenty of support for this. ;-)

bLiNd

09-12-2009, 02:07 AM

Alright, this thread died long ago and somehow got resurrected.

Shes been talking of this for quite some time and figured it was more trouble than it was worth plus with people saying forget it, she figured she would.

I told her there are lots of things involved in a large scale rpg project but the more people helping the better. I can co-direct.

Yea im busy but not too busy for my wifes interests. Chances are i will be rescuing many lost WIPs and tracks for this project if and when it gets started..I seem to have a reputation for the rescuing remixer for projects that are ALMOST DONE and need a track to be finished QUICKLY haha but I digress.

This project would be very strict if it were to take on a life of its own. My thought is, instead of floods of ocremixes in all styles and genres, it would have to be cohesive in a sense...if not by genre, by quality. Im extreme with the quality of music, im hard on myself, which is why I get the quality I do when I create. So I am open to making this project a success by helping artists push themselves over the top, or even helping them mix and master if it needs to be done. I still think the best project on this site is protricity's super metroid project, it was the VERY first one, he created the concept and successfuly executed it. Its an extremely cohesive album that works. A lot of the projects i have been involved in are not cohesive and the reviews show that. Its got to have an album feel and that takes lots of work when multiple artists are involved. Now i have tons of remixes to do but its all preliminary and there are no rushes....not to mention TONS of projects lined up to be shown in spotlight. So this project, if it were done and released, would be a couple years down im sure. The soundtrack is worth it though, its definately worth celebrating and it looks like I have some planning to do.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-12-2009, 02:27 AM

Omg guys I did NOT see the rest of these posts since I last posted. I am so moved... I feel like I'm going to cry. lol Don't laugh at me either. :P Thank you so much for taking interest and not being hard on me. Do remember that this thread is 9 months old so for it to come back to life is very moving. Thank you for finally caring now.

Sorry to say, but OC ReMix can really lose some people that have potential because they are not "popular" to them. 10, 000 posts doesn't make you "the man." It makes you something else I won't type. lol But that's just my opinion. Since this site is always about giving your opinions when they are not asked for. :wink:

As to what DarkeSword and Oinkness were discussing, sorry to burst either one of your bubbles, but because of what Pezman did and said, I lost interest in coming here. I rarely post and come to the forums. Being brutal is not the answer, especially when someone wants to be more involved in the community. But how else could I be more involved if you all don't give me a chance? I've wanted to learn to make music since I was a little girl. I've been wanting to become an OC ReMixer since 2001. So um.. Why kill my dream for? That's all I'm saying. OCR should be honored that a lot of people want to be more involved, like myself. Isn't that the point of this site? It's not about projects and who can get more remixes done. It's to bring the people together and enjoy what they love the most - music and video games 'cos that's all we have man! Just because I am bLiNd's wife doesn't mean that's all I am. I matter in another sense too. I've known about this site since 2001 and I know about A LOT of remixers and the remixes. I am just as important as the one that posts 10, 000 times. Sorry to offend anyone, but it's true. I didn't post back in those days 'cos I didn't want to get involved with forums, but after bLiNd was in the hospital I found interest. I made a lot of nice friends I lacked all these years. :)

I am very inspired now to probably make this happen... I am in search for not just 1 co-director, but many assistants. I know there are a lot of projects going on right now thanks to Bahamut... :P and many others, but if anybody is interested to do a track or help me with the project, IM me on AIM at JaDE ARaN HaRuNo. If there are any pointers you guys can give me, that would be very useful! Thanks for offering to help me! :smile:

I'm going to come up with some ideas for this project. I don't want to make just a generic project 'cos that will just be boring and exhausting, wouldn't it be? So why not pick whatever song you want and remix it into different genres? That would be much more interesting and fun!

What do you think???

I know I can write up a huge list of ReMixers I want on this project without looking at the OCR list. I understand there are so many projects going on right now... but I been talking about this for a year now. :\

bLiNd

09-12-2009, 03:14 AM

Shes right....

She knows more about this site than me when it comes to remixes and artists...::shame::

Now this is truly cool, you guys are awesome to support Jade and encourage her. You don't necessarily need a good rep to organize something, but you DO need reputable mixers to make the project worth a release. Joe Cam had a cult following underground remix project that was a huge success and there are tons of projects with project leaders ive never seen before. Honestly OA and audio fidelity came out of the blue and then later I find out audio fidelity has lived right around the corner from me my whole life :O

You never know what kind of talent is hiding in the forums, and to look at a join date and make a judgement of noob status IS VERY IGNORANT. thats somethingawful forums style of behavior and its not accurate. Jade has been listening to OC remixes and coming to this site longer than I have. She didnt join the forums until she became involved with me but she knows more mixes than even mr oji himself. At magfest she turned his head with her knowledge actually hehe.

So to settle that issue talent comes from all directions and if there are enough people to rally behind it, then its something positive, regardless if it succeeds or fails as a whole. Ive been involved in lots of failed projects but they all had something positive result from it. What we are doing here is recognizing an amazing composers vision for this widely known game and celebrating its great melodies and music. If it releases on the site or it doesnt, it doesnt really matter, we are having fun and paying tribute.

Jewbei

09-12-2009, 03:16 AM

now i sat here and read every comment from start to finish ya'll nigga's shouldnt be bickering about any of this nor putting anyone down its retarded...damn shame, this a community youre suppose to have each others backs no matter what kind of weight ya'll hold...lets jus chill the hell out and lets make some music and have fun doing it.

Kinslayer

09-12-2009, 03:46 AM

I've already began talking with JaDE ARan about helping out with this project, I'll do what I can to help her with technical issues regarding this project, I'm not very helpful with music, but can do alot behind the scenes.

Halt

09-12-2009, 04:31 AM

You know. I'm not the best at music., but I try, and i learn things all the time. I'm fine with that. because i know as i practice, i will get better. I came to this community pretty much by accident. Found it searching google. What it did was open my love of video games and music, and combined the two. I couldn't ask for much more. Thats all i want to do, is learn to remix and compose my own music.

Jade here, sure shes not a Posted ReMixer. Who the hell cares. Jewbie is right. I mean, seriously. Support the people that want to contribute. I support this 100%. I look forward to a positive out come. You know something else, it will happen. Nobody is a noob in my book. Someone just willing to learn doesn't make them a noob. Support jade, and this Album. Great music came from the Wild Arms series. Lets see this through and have our selfs a kickass album.

LuketheXjesse

09-12-2009, 04:43 AM

Dyne

09-12-2009, 04:49 AM

This sounds like a great project! I am definitely all for it, and I hope it gets done! Also, if you wait around for all of the other projects to get done, they'll have already been replaced four times over with other projects. Trust me, just do it.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-12-2009, 06:19 AM

Well, I'm sticking to the Wild Arms Complete Tracks OST... If ya don't like that, then make your own project regarding the PS2 version. :P

Here's what it looks like: http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/wa-complete/index.html

I would also link you to the music on youtube... but surprisingly no one has submitted the music from that soundtrack on there yet. That's kind of shocking and disappointing. :\ I mean there are "some" tracks on youtube... but not enough to cover 2 discs. This album is not respected! Can anybody help me find a website that let's you listen to the music without downloading it? If not... You're gonna have to download it online or get it through me.

If I complete this project into success, then maybe I can do the other sequels into projects as well. We'll see. ;)

HitoriJaNai

09-12-2009, 06:29 AM

*poof* Hey, peoples. :D

So, I'm in full support of this project (not that my opinion quite matters yet), but I just wanted to check in, say hello, be a happy fellow and all that jazz.

Let's show this game some more love, because apparently there isn't a ton up already! :-P

Brandon Strader

09-12-2009, 06:37 AM

Hooray! And they lived happily ever after, the dark clouds descended back across the treacherous ocean and the lighthouse of freedom shown brightly across the land.

I'll have to check out the soundtrack and let YOU know. :)

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-12-2009, 06:39 AM

Gario

09-12-2009, 06:43 AM

Interesting... Well, I don't know if I can contribute, yet, but we'll see - reading where your thread went inspires me to try to help you out, if I'm able. Perhaps I'll re-evaluate my position in a few months (when I plan most of what I'm already doing to be finished), so if there's music open then I might join up :).

HitoriJaNai

09-12-2009, 06:45 AM

LMAO Nicely put! Thank you for your support! Us "noobs" will make it on here. ;)

Yes, we will make it, because divided we may be n00bs, but united we are...

Well...

Really, we're just more n00bs, but hey, who's watching? :-P

Kinslayer

09-12-2009, 06:58 AM

You know, there's a simple answer to that...if so many people rely on the older remixers (no insult intended to blind or any of the site remixers) than maybe it's time for a New Generation of ReMixers and staff to put together something fresh for a change...there's always projects needing to be done on the site but never enough people to see them all to completion, why? Because there's too few people being considered to help with OCR's projects...

Ronyn

09-12-2009, 09:00 AM

Well if already having a Wild Arms mix isn't proof enough, I love this soundtrack and would definitely support an album. (I'm actually working on another wild arms mix now, but regretfully for another specialty album) This game is definitely under mixed on the site. I don't think you guys should get bogged down in he said she said. If you love it, do it; the rest is just details.

evktalo

09-12-2009, 12:39 PM

I still think the best project on this site is protricity's super metroid project, it was the VERY first one, he created the concept and successfuly executed it. Its an extremely cohesive album that works.

I agree with the final sentence 100%, and I'm very happy to see this idea of going with a similar approach. I like most of the projects but Relics of the Chozo and Delta-Q-Delta are the best listening experiences from start to finish as a whole.

--Eino

José the Bronx Rican

09-12-2009, 01:59 PM

I understand there are so many projects going on right now... but I been talking about this for a year now. :\

Year? I've been ready to announce my project since late 2006. I am dead serious.

There'll always be musicians for these things, but maybe not enough of 'em with the free time, or enough to give high-quality product, or that are even familiar enough with the music to give the project some "labor-of-love" quality. What I'm saying is "be ready", especially because the scope of this one is already looking ridiculous.
That's been my only real issue with album projects: we all wanna hit the ground running with 40-, 50-, EIGHTY-track extravaganzas that only a zircon or OA with their connections and resources could pull off, and even then, it's a long, difficult, possibly painful process (right, Kyle?). We couldn't get all the tracks we wanted done for BotA; we may be lucky things worked out pretty well there. It's why I'm doing mine in four parts. The Sonic 1 thing right now is a breath of fresh air.
Jade is married to one of the biggest connections you can think of; already a huge advantage. I have confidence in this venture, so good luck, and BTW, everyone: I'm still looking for my opening, so could you please help a brother out? Bounding and gagging Wes is a good start. :tomatoface:

Dj Mokram

09-12-2009, 04:42 PM

That's been my only real issue with album projects: we all wanna hit the ground running with 40-, 50-, EIGHTY-track extravaganzas that only a zircon or OA with their connections and resources could pull off, and even then, it's a long, difficult, possibly painful process.
Exactly, Jose narrowed it down.
While it's an awesome endeavor to try and produce a double or quadruple cd remix album,
one will find hard to maintain focus and objectivity for nearly a hundred tracks.
I think that's what might make earlier OCR albums appear as more cohesive,
since it's easier to keep a direction when you have an average of 20 tracks to work with.

That being said, Jade, since I don't use aim and you can't be PM'd, I'll ask directly here.
I'd like to claim track 28 of cd1 "After the Chaos and Destruction" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36Dvkrph4I).

Oh, and here's a playlist of 79 tracks if people want to listen to the album:
Wild Arms soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7B9A0639E6478FB5)
They're not in order, but at least you can link the tracklist in your first page to the actual songs.
Hope this helps. :wink:

ilp0

09-12-2009, 04:48 PM

I'm a big fan of the soundtrack and definitely willing to do a track if the project starts to live... I've already done one Wild Arms remix (a long time ago, only in VGM), and been thinking about further remixing on the OST.

Bahamut

09-12-2009, 05:26 PM

Year? I've been ready to announce my project since late 2006. I am dead serious.

There'll always be musicians for these things, but maybe not enough of 'em with the free time, or enough to give high-quality product, or that are even familiar enough with the music to give the project some "labor-of-love" quality. What I'm saying is "be ready", especially because the scope of this one is already looking ridiculous.
That's been my only real issue with album projects: we all wanna hit the ground running with 40-, 50-, EIGHTY-track extravaganzas that only a zircon or OA with their connections and resources could pull off, and even then, it's a long, difficult, possibly painful process (right, Kyle?). We couldn't get all the tracks we wanted done for BotA; we may be lucky things worked out pretty well there. It's why I'm doing mine in four parts. The Sonic 1 thing right now is a breath of fresh air.
Jade is married to one of the biggest connections you can think of; already a huge advantage. I have confidence in this venture, so good luck, and BTW, everyone: I'm still looking for my opening, so could you please help a brother out? Bounding and gagging Wes is a good start. :tomatoface:
Haha, I promise I won't head any other projects for a while other than the several I have on my plate...crunchtime for DKC 2 is making me realize that it's a lot of work leading up to the release.

I'm willing to help people get theirs started up though and fill out tracks, as I offered to Jade for this one whenever she's interested in making it official. In fact, other than the projects I have conceived/in progress, I actually want to dedicate time to helping others fulfill their projects to completion once I'm fairly confident in the progress of the ones currently going on. PM me sometime Jose with the stuff behind your project and I should be able to help!

bLiNd

09-12-2009, 06:02 PM

The ONLY qualm I have about this project is that there is a shit ton of projects already. But whatever, I guess you might as well ride the wave of projects getting started. I'm extremely tempted to do so myself...but I REALLY shouldn't...

I have to agree with this statement.

Seems that the queue for project spotlights is almost as massive as the queue for mixes to be posted :/ And i seem to be involved with a big percentage of them haha

If you read mazedudes interview I have to agree with him...a lot of mixers are no longer doing what they love..remixing their favorite game music, because they end up doing a slew of project songs. Dont get me wrong, I love doing these project songs, some of my best work comes from them. I like doing them because they are a challenge and force me to try new things as a remixer instead of just getting comfortable. They have also taught me how to have an insanely fast workflow. I seem to get tracks done faster than ever now (well as soon as I start them at least) lately I have been having problems with my setup so I have been on hold, but these projects also force me to discover new music so there are definate pluses and minuses. But there is also something magical about taking a track that means a lot to you and doing amazing magic with it. I think thats why Bahamut did this new project the darkness and the light. He wants people to choose some of the best music they loved from rpgs, that they are passionate about and have a strong connection to, to make the remix have SOUL. Instead of just another cover or interpration. I think all future projects need this motivation otherwise we will have lots of great looking and sounding projects that have no soul to them and no umph. If I co direct I really want people to have this mindset, bahamut has it down. We need people that understand this though, to remix everything, and EVERYONE, seems to be tied up. So realistically this will be an even bigger endeavor that may take a very long time. I dont want it to be all about just finishing the remixes for a deadline and cracking whips to get people to finish their songs. Because that result is always mediocre music.

Regardless of how many projects tho, and the scope and size of this one, it CAN be successful, but it will take lots of time and patience for this one to bust out and be different. Thats one of the reasons I never wanted to do a site project because my vision for one seems to be hard to meet. Protricity had the right idea and I still stand on that statement but super metroid is a much smaller soundtrack, so this vision is much larger in scope. I think the tracklist should be a selection, we dont need to cover everything, but everything that is mixable and worth covering should be. Just my thoughts anyway

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-12-2009, 06:28 PM

That being said, Jade, since I don't use aim and you can't be PM'd, I'll ask directly here.
I'd like to claim track 28 of cd1 "After the Chaos and Destruction" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36Dvkrph4I).

Oh, and here's a playlist of 79 tracks if people want to listen to the album:
Wild Arms soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7B9A0639E6478FB5)
They're not in order, but at least you can link the tracklist in your first page to the actual songs.
Hope this helps. :wink:

Ugh dude!!!! I was searching for that link on youtube for an hour last night!!! I only could find Wild ARMs 2 and 3. LAME!!! How did you search for it? I need to get better at that if I am going to be a director. :P Thanks so much for searching!!

And I can't be PMed? o.O Dang, I wasn't aware. I have to check my settings out once I eat and shower today.

Do you have any other messenger besides AIM? and I am not getting tracks claimed yet until I have something to present, but I will let you know. So great people already want to claim...hehehehehe

The Mutericator

09-12-2009, 06:48 PM

I still think the best project on this site is protricity's super metroid project, it was the VERY first one, he created the concept and successfuly executed it. Its an extremely cohesive album that works. A lot of the projects i have been involved in are not cohesive and the reviews show that. Its got to have an album feel and that takes lots of work when multiple artists are involved.

And see, there are people (like me!) who feel the exact opposite. I love projects that have a lot of variety and different approaches to the same soundtrack; I hated Relics of the Chozo because every track had the same feel to it (and Children of the Monkey Machine's tracks all sounded more like annoying noises repeated for a few minutes at a time than actual music). Chrono Symphonic felt tired and devoid of life, even during the most energetic of tracks. And hell, as hyped as I was for Summoning of Spirits, it had a definite rock bias that got kind of old kind of fast.
In fact, I still think the best project on the site yet is, ironically, not an OCR project - Bound Together. There was simply so much variety in tracks, from Ailsean's quick hard rock to Morse's... whatever it is that he does and is so damned catchy, to your own trance-y Snowbound. It kept changing and stayed interesting and I still end up just listening to the whole thing in order long after its release.

Though that may be misinterpreting your statement - I'm taking "cohesion" to mean "same genre and style throughout," which I'd attribute more to single-artist albums. In a multiple-artist release, I think something more varied is far more valuable, where you can use each artist's strengths to your advantage, and have each do tracks that suit them. Really, if I wanted "cohesiveness," (as I understand your use of it, which I'm beginning to wonder if I do) I'd stick to single-artist releases.

LuketheXjesse

09-12-2009, 07:05 PM

I think the tracklist should be a selection, we dont need to cover everything, but everything that is mixable and worth covering should be. Just my thoughts anyway

Well, I partially agree with this. The songs that aren't as special aka "aren't worth covering" I feel should still be claimable, but they shouldn't have to be done for the project to be considered finished. You never know what crazy idea someone could come up with for the most boring source...

bLiNd

09-12-2009, 07:24 PM

And see, there are people (like me!) who feel the exact opposite. I love projects that have a lot of variety and different approaches to the same soundtrack; I hated Relics of the Chozo because every track had the same feel to it (and Children of the Monkey Machine's tracks all sounded more like annoying noises repeated for a few minutes at a time than actual music). Chrono Symphonic felt tired and devoid of life, even during the most energetic of tracks. And hell, as hyped as I was for Summoning of Spirits, it had a definite rock bias that got kind of old kind of fast.
In fact, I still think the best project on the site yet is, ironically, not an OCR project - Bound Together. There was simply so much variety in tracks, from Ailsean's quick hard rock to Morse's... whatever it is that he does and is so damned catchy, to your own trance-y Snowbound. It kept changing and stayed interesting and I still end up just listening to the whole thing in order long after its release.

Though that may be misinterpreting your statement - I'm taking "cohesion" to mean "same genre and style throughout," which I'd attribute more to single-artist albums. In a multiple-artist release, I think something more varied is far more valuable, where you can use each artist's strengths to your advantage, and have each do tracks that suit them. Really, if I wanted "cohesiveness," (as I understand your use of it, which I'm beginning to wonder if I do) I'd stick to single-artist releases.

Yes I agree about your points 100%. It wasn't necessarily genre specific cohesiveness, but everything had a similar tone, one string that made it work or glued it together. One idea thats been discussed is having genre specific cd's so you don't have some super soft piano or orchestra piece and then it slam into a rock or dance song thats decibels louder in dynamics. The ff4 project had that problem especially when my stuff came in. Thats why I offered to at least mix and master tracks so it has a similar quality or tone (gear wise) throughout. That offer still stands and something I definitely excel at is production and production quality, I have thousands of dollars worth of plugins and gear that can bring quality sounding mixes and masters (and I am experienced in mixing all genres) The earthbound project point I actually mentioned in an early post. Joe cam had a project that worked because he knew exactly what he wanted because he knew what artists he wanted. All the artists involved knew their craft and consistently put out quality music. The cohesiveness there was quality. Genres need to be separated at the very least, so your ears don't have to adjust so much, or at least the track order needs to be considered by genre.

bLiNd

09-12-2009, 07:25 PM

Well, I partially agree with this. The songs that aren't as special aka "aren't worth covering" I feel should still be claimable, but they shouldn't have to be done for the project to be considered finished. You never know what crazy idea someone could come up with for the most boring source...

Absolutely. We shouldn't limit but there needs to be some kind of theme to stick to as well. Lots of points to consider...

The Mutericator

09-12-2009, 11:51 PM

The earthbound project point I actually mentioned in an early post. Joe cam had a project that worked because he knew exactly what he wanted because he knew what artists he wanted. All the artists involved knew their craft and consistently put out quality music. The cohesiveness there was quality. Genres need to be separated at the very least, so your ears don't have to adjust so much, or at least the track order needs to be considered by genre.

You mentioned Joe Cam, but not specifically BT, so I wasn't sure. But I'm glad to know that the cohesiveness you're referring to isn't "make it all the same genre and style." That gives me more faith in any projects you lead.

Emunator

09-13-2009, 12:53 AM

I have to agree with The Mutericator-- the soundtracks that have been so focused down to one single genre have been very forgettable for me, on the whole. Don't get me wrong, I think there was a lot of talent involved in both Relics and Chrono Symphonic, if you're not a fan of orchestral or ambient there's just not a lot to like about them, despite the effort that was put in by the contributing artists. These kind of albums alienate a lot of people, unfortunately.

Theives of Fate, DQD and Voices of the Lifestream were fully cohesive and listenable as whole albums, but they had a lot of genre variety between songs.

Kinslayer

09-13-2009, 01:52 AM

I don't think that he's even talking about similar genres, he just doesn't want the album to sound like a bunch of jumbled crap crammed together and called an album...He just wants the CD to have enough similarities that it flows together really well, other than that, I think he probably would encourage originality over conformity.

bLiNd

09-13-2009, 01:59 AM

absolutely.

jade and i came up with something to mention about genre and styles. it will be made known in the final project information post when this goes official

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-13-2009, 02:06 AM

I'm very very very very very very....very busy. hahaha I'm feeling the stress now. Those who I want on the project are already getting invites.. Check your inbox.

LuketheXjesse

09-13-2009, 02:12 AM

I can't help but assume this album will have an electronic style to it...

The Mutericator

09-13-2009, 02:27 AM

Theives of Fate

Mmmmmm. Second place for best remix album in my mind. Definitely cohesive, but still so much variety. I think the only song on that whole thing that I don't like is that six minute marimba ending one that just keeps going. But being on the same album as Scar Sealing Girl makes me very tempted to forgive it.

Kinslayer

09-13-2009, 03:07 AM

I don't think electronic would suit the whole album, in my experience with video games, there are just some songs that would fit other genres better. I however need some help, I can't draw for crud, and drawing on a computer for me would look like super crud, I need to collaborate with someone to design some concept art, what I'm needing are some renders of the characters made in a variety of poses so that I can create banners, graphics and stuff for support and a webpage, as well as stuff for the album itself, I'd like to get some basic stuff together for Jade and Blind to look at.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-13-2009, 03:55 AM

I can't help but assume this album will have an electronic style to it...

Not necessarily... If you actually sit down and listen to all 79 tracks, A LOT of them can be electronic, but not the whole thing. :P

LuketheXjesse

09-13-2009, 04:05 AM

Not necessarily... If you actually sit down and listen to all 79 tracks, A LOT of them can be electronic, but not the whole thing. :P

Actually, I said that because Blind mentioned keeping the thing in a specific style, and I noticed both you and him have a thing for electronic music... :P

Kinslayer

09-13-2009, 04:10 AM

As soon as I get the download from Jade finished, I'll be able to listen and familiarize myself with the soundtrack. I want to help Jade with this project as much as I can, I have a love for RPG's and I like what exposure I have had with Wild ARMs, I'll be playing the game tomorrow and hopefully will finish it up, I'm really wanting to get a feel for the game itself, especially since I need to play the game to get an idea of backdrops for the concept art I'll be working on.

Global-Trance

09-13-2009, 07:40 AM

A good remix project, in my mind, does have a sense of cohesion... so all in one broad range of style would work but you'd have to keep it short and sweet so it doesn't get boring. If you keep it to the essentials of Wild Arms, you can concentrate on the quality instead of the quantity.

Kinslayer

09-13-2009, 01:26 PM

yeah, but even the smaller songs can be done so much better, I'd love to do a vocal remix of the "Defeated" theme.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-13-2009, 11:01 PM

I updated the first post guys... Enjoy the teasing! ;) This is very fun... hehehe

LuIzA

09-13-2009, 11:44 PM

Sign me up for "Marsh where the Migrant Birds Gather" as well!

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-13-2009, 11:47 PM

Sign me up for "Marsh where the Migrant Birds Gather" as well!

Oops... Sorry dear. I must've missed one. I put it there though. And shhhh - don't tell people yet. I want it to be a mystery. :P

LuIzA

09-13-2009, 11:56 PM

oops :-X sorry..

Bahamut

09-14-2009, 08:11 AM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-14-2009, 08:14 AM

Glad to see this taking off - Wild Arms has a unique style to the music it seems. Although I haven't gotten to play the original yet, I'm playing through Alter Code F as my first Wild Arms and find some of these songs quite interesting.

I am very curious what Jade & Jordan have cooked up so far, but that'll be for them to say :-) .

Thanks Bahamut... Your support matters to me a lot. I just got 3 straight no's from 3 artists I really wanted so I've been so bummed out tonight... :( But I gotta get used to the rejection and keep going right??? ::must be determined::

evktalo

09-14-2009, 10:17 AM

Absolutely. Keep going! I'm seeing that friend of mine later this week, I'll talk to him if he was interested in doing a WIP for a track.

--Eino

KyleJCrb

09-14-2009, 10:38 AM

Thanks Bahamut... Your support matters to me a lot. I just got 3 straight no's from 3 artists I really wanted so I've been so bummed out tonight... :( But I gotta get used to the rejection and keep going right??? ::must be determined::

I had gotten so many rejections with SoS, they all start to kind of blur together. Just keep on truckin' and finding new talent to provide great music. There's a ton of remixers out there, and even if you can't get your favorites on board, you'll likely stumble across someone who will just blow you away with what they do for your project.

Level 99

09-14-2009, 10:52 AM

I had gotten so many rejections with SoS, they all start to kind of blur together. Just keep on truckin' and finding new talent to provide great music. There's a ton of remixers out there, and even if you can't get your favorites on board, you'll likely stumble across someone who will just blow you away with what they do for your project.

I can't attest to this enough. You may not get your favorites on board, but when new people come forward and totally blow away all expectations you had for what the new talent flow slowly trickling into OCR can do, I'd say that's just as good if not better. I personally have no preference between veteran and "fresh meat", as long as the quality is there I'm all for it!

I'll be listening to the soundtrack while working today, hopefully.

Bahamut

09-14-2009, 03:04 PM

I had gotten so many rejections with SoS, they all start to kind of blur together. Just keep on truckin' and finding new talent to provide great music. There's a ton of remixers out there, and even if you can't get your favorites on board, you'll likely stumble across someone who will just blow you away with what they do for your project.

Yeah, sometimes the project just doesn't come at a good time in someone's life for them to hop on board and devote the time needed. Or the music isn't up the artist's alley, or not familiar with the source and don't want to remix music from a game they haven't played. There's a myriad of reasons, and I've gotten lots of nos or non-responses in the past - it happens, so I wouldn't fret too much because there's probably no grudge or anything like that, they just aren't in the position to jump on board.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-14-2009, 07:17 PM

or not familiar with the source and don't want to remix music from a game they haven't played.

Sorry, but I think that's a gay reason. Trust me - I really believe you should remix tracks of games you've played all the way... Jordan has heard me quote this several times... but the point is give it a chance! I have already turned lots of heads with this soundtrack. Wild ARMs was ignored because it released the same time FFVII did in 1997. I got lots of people that played it, but don't remember the source because it's been so long. I just want to get this game out of the hiding and be respected and noticed. The goal here is to get inspired. I've already inspired a few people to play the game like Yasha, ABG and Jewbei....even Jordan said he wanted to play it. Lol If you like the music well damn.... Sit down and play it as you remix it. Wild ARMs is very similar to CT, FF, and Lufia.. (my favorite games of all time) so give it a chance and don't be biased. :P

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-14-2009, 07:20 PM

I'll be listening to the soundtrack while working today, hopefully.

I hope to hear from you then, good sir. Looking forward to the tracks you'd be choosing... ask around for me if you don't mind and see if anyone wants to come on board. :P

Kinslayer

09-14-2009, 07:31 PM

I will more than likely start playing sometime tonight if I'm not too busy with Project related stuff, Jade knows what I'm talking about...;)

Bahamut

09-14-2009, 07:38 PM

Sorry, but I think that's a gay reason. Trust me - I really believe you should remix tracks of games you've played all the way... Jordan has heard me quote this several times... but the point is give it a chance! I have already turned lots of heads with this soundtrack. Wild ARMs was ignored because it released the same time FFVII did in 1997. I got lots of people that played it, but don't remember the source because it's been so long. I just want to get this game out of the hiding and be respected and noticed. The goal here is to get inspired. I've already inspired a few people to play the game like Yasha, ABG and Jewbei....even Jordan said he wanted to play it. Lol If you like the music well damn.... Sit down and play it as you remix it. Wild ARMs is very similar to CT, FF, and Lufia.. (my favorite games of all time) so give it a chance and don't be biased. :P

Well, the thing is that part of what gets some people inspired is if they played the game and heard the music and the instances it played in the game, so some people feel that they have a harder time doing a song justice if they haven't played the game. I know that doesn't apply to all, but I was just pointing out some people's viewpoint on that. I strongly disagree with it myself, but I have to respect it.

LuIzA

09-14-2009, 08:23 PM

Well, the thing is that part of what gets some people inspired is if they played the game and heard the music and the instances it played in the game, so some people feel that they have a harder time doing a song justice if they haven't played the game. I know that doesn't apply to all, but I was just pointing out some people's viewpoint on that. I strongly disagree with it myself, but I have to respect it.

that's true. I don't know if I speak for others, but it's like a whole different approach when you're remixing a song of a game you didn't play. That isn't a necessarily bad thing, but when you played the game, the song means more to you than just being cool music.

That has never stopped me from remixing it anyway, I had never played any of the Tales games when I joined Kyle's project.... it did, however, inspire me to try......... though I ended up not really liking it :-P

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-14-2009, 08:27 PM

I had never played any of the Tales games when I joined Kyle's project.... it did, however, inspire me to try......... though I ended up not really liking it :-P

Play Wild ARMs and you WILL like it. I am 99.9% sure you will. Bahamut is currently playing it now and he likes it. ;)

LuIzA

09-14-2009, 10:08 PM

I'm looking into it :)

Kinslayer

09-14-2009, 11:21 PM

I plan on playing it tonight at the earliest, it might end up being Wednesday before I start though because of work.

Global-Trance

09-14-2009, 11:37 PM

There's also the instance where tons of people play a game that they like and make an average track for a project but give it all this praise and attention only because it's something they're familiar with...

Music is music... you don't have to play the game first.

Meteo Xavier

09-15-2009, 12:20 AM

I think if you really want cohesiveness in each track, all projects should come with mandatory mastering on behalf of the project coordinators. Well balanced sound beats well balanced style any day.

Gario

09-15-2009, 12:54 AM

Well, the thing is that part of what gets some people inspired is if they played the game and heard the music and the instances it played in the game, so some people feel that they have a harder time doing a song justice if they haven't played the game. I know that doesn't apply to all, but I was just pointing out some people's viewpoint on that. I strongly disagree with it myself, but I have to respect it.Whether or not I actually believe that myself, I do seem to have an affiliation with game music from games that I've played before :)

I'm currently playing through Wild Arms, and it's pretty good, so far (only 2 - 3 hours into it, though). It's been on my things-to-play list for a while, so now's a good time to finally get through it.

I'll let you know if there's a song in it that I absolutely must have, Jade :P

halc

09-15-2009, 12:54 AM

I think if you really want cohesiveness in each track, all projects should come with mandatory mastering on behalf of the project coordinators. Well balanced sound beats well balanced style any day.

i don't really agree with this. i think i'm perfectly capable of mastering my own stuff properly. also, i feel like having someone else master my track would dilute the experience for me.

though an optional service of the same nature would be perfectly fine

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-15-2009, 01:02 AM

Whether or not I actually believe that myself, I do seem to have an affiliation with game music from games that I've played before :)

I'm currently playing through Wild Arms, and it's pretty good, so far (only 2 - 3 hours into it, though). It's been on my things-to-play list for a while, so now's a good time to finally get through it.

I'll let you know if there's a song in it that I absolutely must have, Jade :P

i don't really agree with this. i think i'm perfectly capable of mastering my own stuff properly. also, i feel like having someone else master my track would dilute the experience for me.

though an optional service of the same nature would be perfectly fine

Gario - Wow, awesome man. I hope you enjoy it... Play really close attention to the details of the game and music. hehehehe Keep me updated on your adventure! ^_^

and to everyone and Halc - if you need help with any mastering, ideas, production, etc... that's where bLiNd comes in. Don't forget he is the co-director and tracks go directly to him. We are honestly looking for quality over quantity.... so whatever needs to be done, it will be. I will make sure of it.

LuIzA

09-15-2009, 03:29 AM

i don't really agree with this. i think i'm perfectly capable of mastering my own stuff properly. also, i feel like having someone else master my track would dilute the experience for me.

though an optional service of the same nature would be perfectly fine

I think what he meant is so that all tracks will sound like they belong together in an album, not like they're just different songs gathered together. Like balancing levels and possibly frequencies so the album makes sense as whole. Not a question of your ability to mix/master.

Kinslayer

09-15-2009, 04:51 AM

Hmm, seems like I have a word to add to the banners then...I'll get that done once I get home...

Dhsu

09-15-2009, 04:16 PM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-15-2009, 04:53 PM

I'm not really feeling the current project name...it's a little generic IMO. It would be nice to have something that evokes Western imagery as well as elements unique to Wild ARMs, like "Frontiers of Filgaia" or something to that effect.

Edit: Overworld theme Metallica remix lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm7EeuWnc-8

Sorry if you don't like it, but I do. Sorry you think it's generic, I don't think so. :P The project isn't official yet therefore the name I gave it isn't as well.

Meteo Xavier

09-15-2009, 05:05 PM

Sorry if you don't like it, but I do. Sorry you think it's generic, I don't think so. :P The project isn't official yet therefore the name I gave it isn't as well.

Its generic, but its not terrible or inappropriate either. You might not even need to change the title, just garnish it a bit. Something like "Filgaia Memoir Enchantia/Enchantasia" or something.

Rozovian

09-15-2009, 05:13 PM

Let Jade use whatever name she wants. The current name is fine.

Then again, if the end result isn't as enchanting as it implies, ppl might be disappointed at first when it's rocking or chilling or groovy instead of enchanting. ;) If it doesn't quite fit the songs, the name wouldn't need much fixing anyways. :D

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-15-2009, 08:52 PM

Its generic, but its not terrible or inappropriate either. You might not even need to change the title, just garnish it a bit. Something like "Filgaia Memoir Enchantia/Enchantasia" or something.

Let Jade use whatever name she wants. The current name is fine.

Then again, if the end result isn't as enchanting as it implies, ppl might be disappointed at first when it's rocking or chilling or groovy instead of enchanting. ;) If it doesn't quite fit the songs, the name wouldn't need much fixing anyways. :D

Nah, don't worry guys.. I'm not offended. I will take all suggestions honestly. I need a good project name. One that will stand out. I don't want it generic to people. :\ Dhsu is right, though. The game IS western. It's enchanting to me because I look up to the soundtrack, but most will not agree with me. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

Jewbei

09-15-2009, 10:55 PM

wow its seems y'all niggas are tripping over the project name. give it some time im sure it'll be epic.

Dhsu

09-15-2009, 11:18 PM

Haha, long time no see Jewbei.

You're right though, there's plenty of time to change (or not change) the name. Right now the important thing is to get things off the ground first.

Jewbei

09-15-2009, 11:37 PM

Haha, long time no see Jewbei.

You're right though, there's plenty of time to change (or not change) the name. Right now the important thing is to get things off the ground first.

lol im surprised you remembered me Dhsu

Global-Trance

09-16-2009, 12:19 AM

Nice additions of artists to the tracklist.........

Global-Trance

09-16-2009, 02:57 AM

Mazedude is also an overachiever.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-16-2009, 03:04 AM

HIS TRACK IS EPIC!!! XD

I can't wait until Level 99 gives me his soon. :P

Kinslayer

09-16-2009, 04:27 AM

wow, I'm gone for 12 hours, and everything changes again...LOL btw, since people want to deviate the name, I was thinking Filgaia's Enchanting Melodies, Or, since there's an 'a' theme running around..."Melodia Enchantica Filgaia" I dunno...

Awesome, good cast list so far Jade, keep up the good work ;) I think I'm going to do some work on a draft of Defeated this weekend to see if I have the skills worth adding to the album...

keep up the good work guys!

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-16-2009, 04:37 AM

Things always change in a project... Nothing can be final until a year down the road from this project... haha Artists can leave at any time. You never know what may happen. Project title is the last thing on my mind anyway... Gotta hunt for more artists.

Anyone who wants to get a hold of me though.. I won't be around tonight. I'm afk. :P

Kinslayer

09-16-2009, 04:50 AM

she only mentioned that because I IMed her...lol

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-16-2009, 07:44 PM

This project is really coming along guys. I hope you all like the artists. More then likely I will make this project go official tonight. There will be future threads coming. ;)

Level 99

09-16-2009, 07:57 PM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-16-2009, 08:03 PM

Okay, I really don't mean to gush, but I'm absolutely having one of those "Oh my god, I'm on a project with *person* and *person* and WHAT, *person*?!?". I feel starstruck all over again.
We'll see how long it takes for those new instruments to get here, until then I'll be interpreting the song and writing the arrangement.

LMAOOOOOO - dude I had NO IDEA it would come to this state. I *tried* and look what present was delivered to me! :D I have worked 40 hours PLUS overtime on this lately... with no sleep. haha I know I need to sleep, but I'm too excited. T_T

And woooooo, 'new instruments'? :O You bought instruments?

Arcana

09-16-2009, 08:16 PM

And woooooo, 'new instruments'? :O You bought instruments?

He probably thought, "There's a remix project? I better get new instruments!"

It's all for you.

Level 99

09-16-2009, 08:25 PM

He probably thought, "There's a remix project? I better get new instruments!"

It's all for you.

Heh well, considering what I've decided to do with the song, as well as having list of things that I've had in mind to get and experiment with anyway, I guess the timing was right to finally make the purchase. So...yes and no.

Watch out, Arcana, because when these get here, you can bet I'll be using them for OHC as well!

It's great to see all the people on-board, as well as those interested-but-not-yet-comitted. Don't burn yourself out too soon, Jade. Get some sleep!

Kinslayer

09-16-2009, 08:32 PM

She'll crash eventually, then wake back up and get right back to work...and so far it is an impressive list so far...definitely enough to make the project official...yay! LOL

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-16-2009, 08:43 PM

Hah, I went to bed early last night... if midnight is an early time for anyone. lol Woke up around 10ish and swore to myself I would go back to sleep. I wanted to see who replied... but here I am still awake. lol I will crash though...Yasha is right.

As for Level 99 - :O I feel special. T_T

Arcana

09-16-2009, 09:06 PM

Watch out, Arcana, because when these get here, you can bet I'll be using them for OHC as well!

And I'm stuck here with my four year old software tools......! Months behind!

Kenobio

09-16-2009, 09:06 PM

Looking forward to this! I know you can do it, JaDE!

Kinslayer

09-16-2009, 09:17 PM

Arcana

09-16-2009, 09:52 PM

I suddenly feel bad, I can't play ANY instruments, nor can I read sheet music, I always have to play music by ear...which I can recreate something just by listening to it...the only thing I have is FL Studio 8 and Adobe Audition to use for stuff like that...XD

Dude, I can't play instruments either. And I'm terrible at playing stuff by ear. We make do with what we've got though.

Jewbei

09-16-2009, 10:28 PM

im maad hyped as soon as the rest of my music gear comes in its crunch time for me cant wait!

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 01:46 AM

I know...lol, I'm waiting for my collab partner to get off work so we can start bouncing ideas off each other.

Theophany

09-17-2009, 01:49 AM

Just dropping in to say hi :D

And yeah, I'm still at work :grin:

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 01:52 AM

It's okay, I do the same thing...I usually get online after 11 PM at work because all I have to do after that is run a few breaks...

Theophany

09-17-2009, 02:00 AM

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 02:15 AM

most def. it's just a matter of me playing a game, I haven't listened to much of disc 2, mainly disc 1 because I haven't bothered listening in a while, I'll be playing, or rather will start playing Wild Arms now...so if I get a feel for any other music I'd like to do that isn't claimed, I'll send the track your way, for now, let's focus on the one we have and leave the other openings for now, Jade will probably get most of them filled soon anyway, this is a recent project, and I want to see how well I can prove myself vocally before I try anything...I've never really recorded myself singing before, and if my singing voice sounds as bad as my normal voice does over the phone, then I may give up entirely, j/k

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-17-2009, 02:58 AM

I'm kind of wondering, now that I'm looking through the thread, I see there's a lot of tracks that are unclaimed. I haven't had time to go through them all, but if this Defeated track works out well, would you be down for claiming others? Maybe I'm just excited to finally be part of an ocr remix project, but it's kind of tempting me to start looking for other tracks to claim before we've even gotten started o_O

Mezedude would not be pleased :D

lmao Whenever you get the chance to listen to the soundtrack...(it has 79 tracks btw) there is a possibly you can claim more. It just depends. I'm still waiting on others to reply to me. They are slowly and surely coming through to me.

And btw, if any of you need help with vocals or guitar work... Cyril the Wolf is the man.

He plays bass, sings, and plays rhythm guitar. He also has an acoustic guitar with a good mic if anyone just needs a strummed acoustic thing or simple picking pattern.

bLiNd

09-17-2009, 03:08 AM

i don't really agree with this. i think i'm perfectly capable of mastering my own stuff properly. also, i feel like having someone else master my track would dilute the experience for me.

though an optional service of the same nature would be perfectly fine

Yes I used to think the same thing. Regardless of how good you are at mastering, the actual sound quality depends on what you are using to master it. I have an extensive collection of pro software for mastering (all non-native DSP based stuff, spent probably 2000 bucks on these plugins alone) If you want to look into the uad-1 precision mastering plugins, sonic-core mastering plugins, and powercore mastering plugins, you will see what I mean. So I recommend giving them to me anyway :P

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 03:10 AM

Global-Trance

09-17-2009, 03:21 AM

Siding with bLiNd on this one. Obviously mastering isn't going to do something miraculous like change your genre and style of a song but you'd be surprised how much high quality mastering can tie a collection of songs together. bLiNd does this sort of thing all the time. And although I don't dabble in it on a level as technical as he does, I have had to EQ/master some tracks I've worked with when DJing to make mixes sound a lot more cleaner and unified.

bLiNd

09-17-2009, 03:30 AM

actually bLiNd, and don't be mad for me saying this...but if you want the music to fit a particular theme, or be similar, wouldn't you actually be mixing more than mastering? I mean, of course the mastering is part of it...but I don't think people would be as offended if you were to use mixing instead...

Actually you are right. I've talked to Jade about this several times, that I am actually willing to take unmixed tracks (as in, no eq, compression, reverb, delay etc) and mix and master for anyone that needs help. Most mixers on the project are already extremely capable of this but I do have a specific mixing style and every genre has a different way to mixdown. But the offer to mix AND master stands for those that want the help. I have good monitors and ears for the WIPs I received, when I check production. But one advantage people submitting WIPs to me have is that I can help them on a technical level by DOING it for them, instead of telling them HOW to do it and making them spend money on stuff and learning it etc. So yea :P

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 06:24 AM

So we're working on LOLZARMs now?! Cool, j/k...

She doesn't use any more LOL's than a typical person does...lol

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-17-2009, 06:25 AM

So we're working on LOLZARMs now?! Cool, j/k...

She doesn't use any more LOL's than a typical person does...lol

LONG story. lol I'll leave it at that. It's just a joke one of my buds on OCR told me and I laughed so hard. So I had to use it. lol

Arcana

09-17-2009, 08:12 AM

But one advantage people submitting WIPs to me have is that I can help them on a technical level by DOING it for them, instead of telling them HOW to do it and making them spend money on stuff and learning it etc. So yea :P

But you know, if you did tell me I'd learn a lot.

I probably won't get it right and you'd end up doing the mixdown for me anyway, but I'd still learn from the instruction :)

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 09:04 AM

Theophany and I have gotten started...as soon as we have some workable music to start with, I'll start working on my end, the lyrics, vocals and a very nice surprise...

bLiNd

09-17-2009, 09:58 AM

But you know, if you did tell me I'd learn a lot.

I probably won't get it right and you'd end up doing the mixdown for me anyway, but I'd still learn from the instruction :)

Oh thats no problem, I can totally instruct. But this once again comes down to plugin quality, hardware quality etc. My reverbs, eqs, and compressors, are all hardware replicas 1x1 perfection = high quality mix. Ive made good mixdowns in reason and better ones in cubase with uad, creamware, and powercore plugins and the results are insanely huge in contrast. Im not necessarily saying im better at leveling your tracks, but I have some nice tools at my disposal and am putting it out there for use to those that want it.

Kinslayer

09-17-2009, 10:13 AM

which'll probably be something Theophany and I will take advantage of bLiNd, we're both n00bs when it comes to remixing, me alot moreso than him, but we'll do our best and leave the bugs to you...I highly doubt I can do in Audition what you can do with all your equipment...

KyleJCrb

09-17-2009, 02:02 PM

wild lawlz

Arcana

09-17-2009, 04:03 PM

Wild LAWS!

Oh thats no problem, I can totally instruct. But this once again comes down to plugin quality, hardware quality etc. My reverbs, eqs, and compressors, are all hardware replicas 1x1 perfection = high quality mix. Ive made good mixdowns in reason and better ones in cubase with uad, creamware, and powercore plugins and the results are insanely huge in contrast. Im not necessarily saying im better at leveling your tracks, but I have some nice tools at my disposal and am putting it out there for use to those that want it.

I think it is great that we have the support if we need it (I probably will). Thanks bLinD!

PrototypeRaptor

09-17-2009, 04:49 PM

Oh thats no problem, I can totally instruct. But this once again comes down to plugin quality, hardware quality etc. My reverbs, eqs, and compressors, are all hardware replicas 1x1 perfection = high quality mix. Ive made good mixdowns in reason and better ones in cubase with uad, creamware, and powercore plugins and the results are insanely huge in contrast. Im not necessarily saying im better at leveling your tracks, but I have some nice tools at my disposal and am putting it out there for use to those that want it.

Sort of off topic for a bit, but do you find yourself prefering the UAD plugs over the creamware/powercore ones? Just asking because I'm thinking about sinking some money into one of the above and I've heard great things about all of 'em...

Anyway, I'm probably going to submit something for this - just waiting to see if my trumpet player is going to be able to record before the deadline.
I'd also be more than happy to supply some HQ orchestral parts if people want/need them.

good luck everybody

The Vagrance

09-17-2009, 11:52 PM

This project keeps looking better and better, I'm glad to be on board. Also, if anyone who is skilled with orchestral work/samples wants to contact me and collab on M-Boss I'd be very grateful, or I guess just anyone in general who is down for making something epic. Just shoot me a PM or something.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 01:31 AM

Kinslayer

09-18-2009, 01:34 AM

The Vagrance

09-18-2009, 01:43 AM

Hey... Sounds like ProtoTypeRaptor can do some orchestra. Read the post above you.

Someone sucks at reading (me)

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 02:08 AM

I wish I could help you out with that, sadly, my skills at the present are limited to vocals only...XD

Oh, and JaDE ARaN HaRuNo, how's this for a title!!!

"Wild ARMs: Lyric of A Dream Chaser"

it just popped into my head randomly about 5 minutes ago after looking at the art book in my collectors edition of 5 I just totally bought today at Gamestop...and I bought Mega Man X: Command Mission, and I'll have my own copy of Wild ARMs 1 in just a couple of weeks!!! I'd mention this elsewhere, but Jade seems to be frequenting here moreso than her IM's....

Thanks for being such an inspiring project!

I don't know if I feel the "Lyric" part. But I love dream chaser.

Mega Man X: Command Mission? 8-O I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE that game!!! My computer's name is "Command Mission." lol

Anyway, I'm probably going to submit something for this - just waiting to see if my trumpet player is going to be able to record before the deadline. I'd also be more than happy to supply some HQ orchestral parts if people want/need them.

1. I sent you a PM a few days ago, but you never replied...so I was hoping to hear back from you. Thanks for posting, at least.

2. What deadline?

3. The Vagrance needs orchestra for M-BOSS. It's the random encounter theme. Interested at all?

Someone sucks at reading (me)

It's okay. lol Keeping up with thread posts is hard for me right now, but I'll get better too.

Kinslayer

09-18-2009, 02:19 AM

Lyric is a synonym for song/melody, think Windwaker...the Earth God's Hymn/the Wind God's Lyric...it doesn't in anyway suggest there being words in the music...

I also bought SGX's Hero of the Gray Matter and i.transmit.this EP! so now I have that Nicole Adams song I really wanted!!! I'm so happy!!! I'll be getting physical copies by mail in a couple of weeks

and as soon as it gets here I won't have to borrow Wild ARMs either...I'll have my own copy...that'll give me 1, 2, and 5, I'm just lacking 3, 4 and Alter Code F

Cyril the Wolf

09-18-2009, 02:31 AM

So.... Would it be bad if I suddenly took a thrash metal route with Agitation to Destruction...

I'm just feelin' it. like... yea

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 02:39 AM

So.... Would it be bad if I suddenly took a thrash metal route with Agitation to Destruction...

I'm just feelin' it. like... yea

LOL You're already working on your WIP?

Lyric is a synonym for song/melody, think Windwaker...the Earth God's Hymn/the Wind God's Lyric...it doesn't in anyway suggest there being words in the music...

I also bought SGX's Hero of the Gray Matter and i.transmit.this EP! so now I have that Nicole Adams song I really wanted!!! I'm so happy!!! I'll be getting physical copies by mail in a couple of weeks

Well, I know what ya mean... but I'm feeling more of a western/space kind of feel for the title. You'll see when you play it.

And Nicole Adams - ugh... :( She said no to joining my project. I've been so bummed out about that.

Cyril the Wolf

09-18-2009, 02:42 AM

LOL You're already working on your WIP?

Well... kinda. I always give myself a long idea phase.

The extent of the work was a mad bass solo this morning and a massive nasty (good) guitar stuff.

Also, Primus.

Kinslayer

09-18-2009, 02:46 AM

Hon, the only reason I'm not playing it right now is because it froze last night during the boss battle in the tomb...the one after joining the charas in Adelhyde...XD and I know what you mean, I'll see if I can't find a more western style synonym for song...you know I'm going to keep bouncing ideas off of you...XD

Sorry she rejected, I'm sure she's just really busy with her own stuff right now...but she did offer to give me feedback on Theophany and my track...

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 02:56 AM

Well... kinda. I always give myself a long idea phase.

The extent of the work was a mad bass solo this morning and a massive nasty (good) guitar stuff.

Also, Primus.

hahaha Well, yeah... I need some more rock and orchestra since I already have a nice electronic line up... Can't wait to hear it! ;)

Ah, another thing I forgot to mention...sorry. I'm just so busy. @.@ The song you picked is PERFECT for your mash up. haha That's the Metal Demon theme. They're basically the race that wants to ruin and rule the world.

Nicole Adams

09-18-2009, 03:00 AM

And Nicole Adams - ugh... :( She said no to joining my project. I've been so bummed out about that.
Sorry girl, I have a lot of tracks waiting to be finished, especially the ones for an EP I'm doing with starla. Maybe I can jump in sometime later.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 04:01 AM

Sorry girl, I have a lot of tracks waiting to be finished, especially the ones for an EP I'm doing with starla. Maybe I can jump in sometime later.

It's ok, you told me already which ones you were working on.

joe_cam

09-18-2009, 04:57 AM

Can't wait to hear the results of this. Love me some Wild ARMs.
Good luck getting Dale to do anything. You know he's busy when he didn't even have enough time to do something for CHRONOTORIOUS.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 04:59 AM

Can't wait to hear the results of this. Love me some Wild ARMs.
Good luck getting Dale to do anything. You know he's busy when he didn't even have enough time to do something for CHRONOTORIOUS.

Ah.. Some Joe Cam love. :) Thanks for dropping by.

And yeah, I have my fingers crossed, but he replied to my e-mail pretty quick and said "I'm in." so I dunno... We shall see.

Kinslayer

09-18-2009, 05:51 AM

Here's some synonyms I looked up that might work if you like the title idea I have...

Aria of a Dream Chaser
Canticle of a Dream Chaser
Ballad of a Dream Chaser
Shanty of a Dream Chaser =/ I don't think so...lol

bLiNd

09-18-2009, 06:17 AM

Sort of off topic for a bit, but do you find yourself prefering the UAD plugs over the creamware/powercore ones? Just asking because I'm thinking about sinking some money into one of the above and I've heard great things about all of 'em...

Anyway, I'm probably going to submit something for this - just waiting to see if my trumpet player is going to be able to record before the deadline.
I'd also be more than happy to supply some HQ orchestral parts if people want/need them.

good luck everybody

Honestly creamware has some of the highest quality of the three for certain processors...but its not worth the hassle. its now sonic-core, bought out, so they wouldn't go into insolvency. Can be VERY finicky to get everything up and running but once it is, its insanely rock stable with an amazing platform for synths fx and supreme asio drivers.

Of the 3 though, if i had to choose, it would be the uad-1. If you want to be set for life (for now) get the uad-2 quad extreme ultra mega hugeness and you won't really need anything else. I use all 3 together though for certain plugins on each platform, each one has their strengths and weaknesses which is why I have all of them :P

Arcana

09-18-2009, 07:18 AM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 09:46 AM

I don't know, Wild LAWLZ is pretty catchy.

Because do remember, this thread wasn't fun anymore as soon as the LOLs were used.

Cyril the Wolf

09-18-2009, 11:17 AM

hahaha Well, yeah... I need some more rock and orchestra since I already have a nice electronic line up... Can't wait to hear it! ;)

Ah, another thing I forgot to mention...sorry. I'm just so busy. @.@ The song you picked is PERFECT for your mash up. haha That's the Metal Demon theme. They're basically the race that wants to ruin and rule the world.

Oh, Believe me, I understand being busy! :D

Awesome, I'll take it in that direction then. I don't have the time or desire to play, so I'm cheating and watching a lets play...

(Dear god, how low I have flown)

Saunders

09-18-2009, 11:35 AM

Wootah! I've always wanted more Wild Arms love on OCR, never expected a whole album though.
Although I didn't know any of the songs by these names, and just spent the last 10 minutes figuring out which ones I'm eager to hear, I'm glad to see they're well represented (Eagerly awaiting Beatdrop's take on "Battle Demon"!). Have to say though I'm super curious about who's covering "Kishum Flame", I loved that tune in the game.

On a completely separate note, how did everybody else pronounce "Elw" when they played the game?
I had one friend pronounce it "Yewl", while another said "Lew". When I first played the game I used an awkward "El-wuh" but then I started thinking the "w" was just a mistranslation, or typo, of a "v" and I just started thinking of them as elves. Then the internet came along and I saw mp3's named like "Village of the Eru", and now I just checked Wikipedia, and it says it's pronounced "el-loo", so I guess that's where it sits.

I think next time I play it though I'm gonna call them El-wuhs.

Siamey

09-18-2009, 04:41 PM

for the love of god is there 1 trance mixer here who uses reason 4 who wants to collab

djsiamey@hotmail.com plz

LuketheXjesse

09-18-2009, 04:42 PM

My guitar needs repairing, so I hope the first deadline isn't soon...

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-18-2009, 08:12 PM

Kinslayer

09-18-2009, 08:49 PM

My mind just didn't even want to pronounce the Elw...I just called them the El-wuhs, but now that the translation is supposed to be El-loo, then I look forward to using the cleaner pronunciation...hopefully I can trust the old clunker PS2 to not freeze today...I need mine back!!!

Stitch Faced Angel

09-18-2009, 11:48 PM

Hows about "ARMs of the Wild"?

Global-Trance

09-19-2009, 04:02 AM

ROFLMAO Your post made me crack up... You're going on a jolly ride with the "Elw" word. lol I used to pronouce it "el-loo" before I looked it up on Wiki. You're so silly. :P

As far as the secret outsider... Can't spoil it. :) You will just have to see in the near future. Are there any you would like to claim? :-P

Yea... you guys are going to have to wait it out.

Kinslayer

09-19-2009, 06:32 AM

I just noticed the thread RELOCATED!!! yay!

Emunator

09-19-2009, 07:03 AM

That's pretty much the fastest I've ever seen a Project thread moved here. Congrats on becoming semi-official! :-)

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-19-2009, 07:05 AM

Yep yep yep... Thanks to Bahamut and bLiNd that it was moved. :)

I also want to discuss a few things with the remixers that claimed tracks. Bahamut brought up a valid point and I want to take it into consideration. It would be much better if everyone came into 1 chatroom and discussed it with me so I can say it to all of you at once, but I doubt that'll be possible. ::sigh:: As for now, enjoy the fact that the project is now official and I will be setting the WIP date tomorrow.

Kinslayer

09-19-2009, 07:13 AM

I've let Theophany know to be on the lookout JaDE...yay!!! it's so quick, it's so freakin' awesome...yay!

Theophany

09-19-2009, 09:17 AM

I also want to discuss a few things with the remixers that claimed tracks. Bahamut brought up a valid point and I want to take it into consideration.

Did I miss the actual announcement? Also, congrats on the project going official.

Kinslayer

09-19-2009, 09:55 AM

I was surprised yet again it seems...

Saunders

09-19-2009, 02:37 PM

Are there any you would like to claim? :-P

Oh no, not me. I'm no remixer. I do not have the leet skillz.

Arcana

09-19-2009, 05:22 PM

That's pretty much the fastest I've ever seen a Project thread moved here. Congrats on becoming semi-official! :-)

Then again this was first proposed in January, but as far as I know it got revived and then Jade leveraged her leet skillz and got a bunch of people signed on before posting the grand announcement.

It's the way most projects should be done honesetly. Recruit people... THEN post the thread to recruit more people.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-19-2009, 11:22 PM

First post has now been updated. Go check and read. WIP date set as well.

Download both soundtracks if needed.

Kinslayer

09-20-2009, 12:55 AM

read the post, so now I'm up to date on everything that's needed to know...LOL

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-20-2009, 04:40 AM

::Music Whips::

Pick it up people... I'm waiting for WIPs... :P Just kidding.

Really excited guys... Now I can sit back and wait for WIPs... ABG already gave me a rough draft so if we keep this pace up, we'll have this project done in less then a year... (Yeah right)

Kinslayer

09-20-2009, 04:42 AM

am currently working with Theophany online...we're still in....remix infancy...lol

evktalo

09-21-2009, 08:58 AM

So nice to see good progress. :) We got our WIP started with Pleiade, nothing to show yet, but we'll try to keep a weekly pace of progress, so hopefully Jade will be hearing something soon!

--Eino

The Vagrance

09-21-2009, 11:25 AM

Both of my WIPs will have to wait until next weekend to get started so I can use my new Virus TI Polar (I'm so excited!)

LuketheXjesse

09-21-2009, 01:39 PM

am currently working with Theophany online...we're still in....remix infancy...lol

Stop posting lol at the end of everything.

The Vagrance

09-21-2009, 01:47 PM

Stop posting lol at the end of everything.

Hell yeah project drama!

LuketheXjesse

09-21-2009, 01:48 PM

STFU YOU CAN'T MAEK MUSIK

(luke pretends to troll)

Level 99

09-21-2009, 01:53 PM

Luke, I have a book for you: It's called "The Five Steps to NOT getting Smacked Upside the Head and Good Remixing". Here's my summary for you:

1. Stop pretending to troll.
2. Accept the fact there will be lols and it's out of your control.
3. Go fix your guitar...
4. Now play your guitar once it's fixed.
5. Record what you're playing.

If your guitar isn't fixed by the time we have the meetup at Taucer's place, let me know. We might be able to arrange...something...to get you back into productivity. :nicework:

Edit: optional step to assist with step 1 - give the F5 key a rest. Every time you press F5, a real internet troll is born.

LuketheXjesse

09-21-2009, 01:53 PM

Surely Taucer has more than one guitar. ;-)

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-21-2009, 11:32 PM

lmaooooooooooooooooo @ level 99... Epitaph got OWNED!@ :nicework: I didn't even notice these posts until ABG brought it up now.

AND THERE WILL BE NO TROLLING ON MY THREAD SO GO AWAY! :tomatoface:

Fishy

09-22-2009, 11:03 AM

Alright if I combine 2 tracks? I enjoy the randomness of both:

A Moment of Tension
Battle Zeik

I'm feeling some major dream theater style potential here.

The Vagrance

09-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Just outta curiosity, are there any/going to be any forums for this project?

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-22-2009, 09:02 PM

Welcome to Nutritious and Fishy! They have joined our project! Our list is looking nice now!

Kinslayer

09-23-2009, 05:10 AM

Welcome remixers!

KyleJCrb

09-23-2009, 07:21 AM

Alright if I combine 2 tracks? I enjoy the randomness of both:

A Moment of Tension
Battle Zeik

I'm feeling some major dream theater style potential here.

I think I just heard Luke have an orgasm over the mention of Dream Theater.

LuketheXjesse

09-23-2009, 12:24 PM

Three, actually.

Er, wait, you can hear orgasms?

Level 99

09-23-2009, 04:30 PM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-23-2009, 08:08 PM

Nutritious: if I can't get ahold of some-other-guy, interested in giving some amazing orchestral stuff possibly to my track? I'm still writing, and I sent Jade the roughest of WHIPS last night, but first I'd even want to know if you're interested...

Also, WHIP WHIP WHIP! That's all Jade does now-a-days. I'm a little scared to go visit her and bLiNd now, lest I end up in some kinky game I wasn't prepared for. Jade, from now on, you should say "WHIPS AND FUZZY HANDCUFFS".

Hun - I already asked the guy through a PM yesterday before you mentioned anything. ;) He finally said yes to my project (thanks to bLiNd) so I'm just hoping he replies so he can say yes to your collab. ;)

and............. WHIPS AND FUZZY HANDCUFFS.

bjkmenu

09-24-2009, 06:18 AM

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-24-2009, 06:20 AM

I just found out about this today via the ngi links. hello. i did town from wild arms a long time ago as a DoD alt. i think i might want to redo it, along with courage and aldehyde castle. but, i see they are all taken. gosh darn it.

maybe i'll just redo town and courage. i'll check back, looks like i have a few months. i think this project is great. i support you.

Well, I am accepting a bonus album so you can still contribute in some fashion. It is preferred though if you also claim a track that hasn't been claimed as of yet. :P Let me know. Possibly PM me?

Kinslayer

09-24-2009, 09:35 PM

Hey Jade, just dropping in to update myself on the project status...I'm still trying to get in touch with Theophany, but once I do, we'll be fine.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-24-2009, 09:53 PM

Nothing new. Just waiting for WIPs now. This is the time to sit back and wait. Not much else can be done.

Kinslayer

09-25-2009, 05:51 AM

Yep, I know...our sigs are clashing...LOL j/k

btw, hope you don't mind, but I made my siggy a link to this page since I do frequent the other forums, and I figured it'd be a nice way to get the word out.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-25-2009, 06:52 AM

Wow that's actually a neat idea. Thanks yasha. ^_^ You are a smart guy.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-25-2009, 07:22 PM

Well I got GREAT news to share with everybody!!! :D

Binster said yes to my project and he already claimed a track.

Also... Our old vet AmIEviL is going to make a comeback to OCR and contribute a song for the project!!!!! Thanks for LuIzA mentioning he had a Facebook page. Guy was so forthcoming about it too! He's one of my favorites (and LuIzA's) so I def can't wait! I'm SOOO looking forward to this project!!! :-o:-o:-o:-o

Level 99

09-25-2009, 07:28 PM

You're single-handedly grabbing all the best talent in the entire world ever.

Stop it.

:tomatoface:

LuketheXjesse

09-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Whoa, good job Jade. Next thing you know, we'll have PrinceofDarkness, Snappleman, and Protricity, too...

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-25-2009, 08:13 PM

You're single-handedly grabbing all the best talent in the entire world ever.

Stop it.

:tomatoface:

I LOVE YOU STEVO! :P I'm just trying to deliver great music to this community...'cos after all I am just a n00b here right?

Whoa, good job Jade. Next thing you know, we'll have PrinceofDarkness, Snappleman, and Protricity, too...

Snappleman told me no... as he is busy trying to get a music career and wants nothing to do with OCR for a long time... but he said he'll think about it because he loves Wild ARMs. PoD told me he is interested later when his laptop is fully repaired and Protricity... well, I haven't asked him yet. Would he anyway?

LuketheXjesse

09-25-2009, 08:21 PM

Eh, anything's possible. He was on SoS, is ON the lufia project I think, and is on super dodge ball.

I think he's up to doing anything right now.

Kinslayer

09-25-2009, 08:41 PM

wow, just checked out the first post again...the majority of the post is bleeding now...so few tracks left unclaimed...and 5 rough WIP's now, that's awesome!

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-25-2009, 08:47 PM

Eh, anything's possible. He was on SoS, is ON the lufia project I think, and is on super dodge ball.

I think he's up to doing anything right now.

Yeah.. I knew about those projects, but I was just wondering if he would do Wild ARMs.

wow, just checked out the first post again...the majority of the post is bleeding now...so few tracks left unclaimed...and 5 rough WIP's now, that's awesome!

Oh... I guess I been lazy to change certain songs to purple...heh. Sorry. There's actually 7 rough wips and 3 substantial wips. hehe And if you haven't checked Binster's music yet, you should... like ASAP. He's amazing.

Emunator

09-25-2009, 10:19 PM

Protricity... well, I haven't asked him yet. Would he anyway?

Just get Monobrow on your project, and chances are Prot will follow along :-P That's the way it's been with both SoS and FF4 :-)

I'm really impressed at the star power you've hooked up for this project! I'm always amazed at how promising these new projects look just based on their tracklists! I hope this all pans out :-D

Nutritious

09-26-2009, 02:33 AM

Nutritious: if I can't get ahold of some-other-guy, interested in giving some amazing orchestral stuff possibly to my track? I'm still writing, and I sent Jade the roughest of WHIPS last night, but first I'd even want to know if you're interested...

Also, WHIP WHIP WHIP! That's all Jade does now-a-days. I'm a little scared to go visit her and bLiNd now, lest I end up in some kinky game I wasn't prepared for. Jade, from now on, you should say "WHIPS AND FUZZY HANDCUFFS".

Hey man, sorry for the delayed response. I'll see what I can do. Things are super super busy right now: just started a new job this week and have a 12 day old at home. When bLiNd convinced me to grab a track, I did it with the disclaimer that it could be some time before I'm able to work on it at all.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-26-2009, 02:36 AM

Hey man, sorry for the delayed response. I'll see what I can do. Things are super super busy right now: just started a new job this week and have a 12 day old at home. When bLiNd convinced me to grab a track, I did it with the disclaimer that it could be some time before I'm able to work on it at all.

Yeah, that's fine. As long as you're on the project bro. If you can work on your track or help Stevo later, much appreciated.

...Also... add Wild ARMs to your signature man. :-o

LuIzA

09-26-2009, 02:54 AM

You're single-handedly grabbing all the best talent in the entire world ever.

Stop it.

:tomatoface:

word.

man, AmIEvil.... this is soooooooooo AWESOME!

Brandon Strader

09-26-2009, 06:30 AM

Craziness. Congratulations. :P

Maybe I should have married bLiNd too. ;)

Wintermute

09-26-2009, 08:57 AM

I'd love to do a rendition of Zed's theme (Wh-What!?)

Level 99

09-26-2009, 01:14 PM

Jade: I don't know how you get these people to respond so friggin' fast but it's magical. At this rate, roflcoptern00blulzARMs will be done before Spring.

Kinslayer

09-26-2009, 04:22 PM

I've got another title idea for you Jade:

ARMs of the Filgaia Frontier

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-26-2009, 06:19 PM

Jade: I don't know how you get these people to respond so friggin' fast but it's magical. At this rate, roflcoptern00blulzARMs will be done before Spring.

LOL I e-mailed him last night and he said yes and also posts... Friggin' amazing. I'm such a big fan of Wintermute... I feel all girly now because I'm too much of a fangirl. >_<

Craziness. Congratulations. :P

Maybe I should have married bLiNd too. ;)

Well, I must say THANK YOU because you resurrected this silly ol' thread... BUT I cannot share my husband. You can go after Zircon now, see what pixietricks says. :P

LuketheXjesse

09-26-2009, 06:29 PM

It's okay Jade, I'm a gushing fanboy of most Rock remixers. And Dream Theater.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-26-2009, 06:31 PM

It's okay Jade, I'm a gushing fanboy of most Rock remixers. And Dream Theater.

LMAOOOOOO This damn Dream Theater joke will never end, will it?

LuketheXjesse

09-26-2009, 06:32 PM

Well, when I first started posting here, all I did was talk about Dream Theater, and it got on everyone's nerves.

I've calmed down now, but they'll never let me live it down...that and, well, I STILL love Dream Theater :P

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-26-2009, 06:35 PM

hahahahahaha... You got me curious now. I wanna hear Dream Theater.. maybe I'll rant how I love it too someday. lol

Kinslayer

09-26-2009, 11:59 PM

You didn't even look at my title idea... :(

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-27-2009, 12:03 AM

You didn't even look at my title idea... :(

Level 99 gave me a potential title already actually... (look at the first post) so sorry I overlooked it. I actually don't want the word "Frontier." Reminds me of Star Trek too much. :\ It's not original.

Kinslayer

09-27-2009, 12:08 AM

neither is Vigilante! It's almost as unoriginal as Frontier!

Overture of a Dream Chaser ;)

Overture of the Filgaian Wild

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-27-2009, 12:10 AM

Excuse me... I came up with Vigilante and it totally fits them. I like that word.

Kinslayer

09-27-2009, 12:12 AM

Vigilante is in half of the old Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies, but if you like it, that's cool....lol

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-27-2009, 12:16 AM

My dad was a fan of John Wayne, Clint Eastwood & in general westerns... That's why I picked it. I'd like to put some of my dad in this project. I also don't want the title to sound Star Trek. :P

LuketheXjesse

09-27-2009, 02:06 AM

Yashafan please stop posting. Seriously.

Brandon Strader

09-27-2009, 02:19 AM

Wild Arms: These Arms They Be Wild (tm)

Just kiddin, Vigilante is a good title. :p

I wanted to call my album title "The Root of all Evil"

Then I remembered it was a DREAM THEATER SONG

LuketheXjesse

09-27-2009, 02:24 AM

A pretty good one, no less.

There's way better, though.

K.B.

09-27-2009, 02:40 AM

for the love of god is there 1 trance mixer here who uses reason 4 who wants to collab

djsiamey@hotmail.com plz
Bumping this request in case no one has responded since Siamey's stuff (http://www.ocremix.org/artist/4556/siamey) is solid. (I see four claimed on the op with no collabs)

Alright if I combine 2 tracks? I enjoy the randomness of both:

A Moment of Tension
Battle Zeik
Elmina and Zeik? Jack would be piisssssed.

and have a 12 day old at home
Congrats!

Jade - I'll re-rar (and re-title, etc as required) the psf in Complete Tracks order over the next few days and find somewhere to host it. By Saturday at the latest. Hardly seems you need it now though; you've filled almost the entire Complete Tracks with remixers! And big names at that! I'm glad to see that your effort is paying off in spades.

Three Boomerang tracks, three phenomenal remixers. I'm already ecstatic.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-27-2009, 02:54 AM

Ah I see you made it back K.B. You can do that if you want, but yeah... hahaha Project has been successful. I guess I proved a lot of people wrong. I been working at this as if it's my full-time job.

I do accept a bonus album later though of the tracks not on the Complete Tracks album so if you want to help with that, kudos.

K.B.

09-27-2009, 03:18 AM

Didn't mean to imply you needed my help - far from it! Any bloke could see the results of your efforts. I'm simply following through with what I said I'd do, as this project has most certainly garnered interest.

I'll be around, and offer stands, through fruition. At the very least, it will be a new experience giving the occasional spam to a project thread while tracking it from start to finish!

Kinslayer

09-27-2009, 08:49 AM

Well, I absolutely cannot wait until I actually get to get busy on our track, Theophany's taking a break from the collab to work on the solo one, and I haven't been able to get a hold of him to send me at least something to do over here...*sigh* On a better note, added another fandom siggy to my siggy!

Saunders

09-27-2009, 09:28 AM

Jade - I'll re-rar (and re-title, etc as required) the psf in Complete Tracks order over the next few days and find somewhere to host it.

I will gladly host it, I would rather enjoy having that set of files for myself. :)

evktalo

09-27-2009, 10:41 AM

The project has progressed quite a bit since I last posted in this thread. It's great to see. Kudos to Jade for working so hard!

Heh, I suggested a "Frontier" title too, but I have to agree the Star Trek connection is not that good.

--Eino

LuIzA

09-28-2009, 12:44 AM

My dad was a fan of John Wayne, Clint Eastwood & in general westerns... That's why I picked it. I'd like to put some of my dad in this project. I also don't want the title to sound Star Trek. :P

John Wayne and Clint Eastwood FTW.... gotta love them oldies.

Kinslayer

09-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Well, now maybe I can get somewhere on Defeated, poor Theophany's had a total brainfart on it, so I'm going to see what I can do, this will truly be my first WIP ever...so I'll need all the advice I can get, and Theophany will help me on it too.

prophetik music

09-29-2009, 12:55 PM

i'll collaborate with anyone who wants assistance realizing their mix - orchestral, jazz, electronic, whatever - and i'll play sax or sing for people who want that as well.

KyleJCrb

09-29-2009, 10:32 PM

Wouldn't a blue track no longer be a Work In Progress?

LuketheXjesse

09-29-2009, 10:32 PM

Wouldn't a blue track no longer be a Work In Progress?

I nearly posted this too.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-29-2009, 11:33 PM

http://www.thasauce.net/

I just wanted to link ALL of you... the project is on the front page!!! YAY!!! Thanks to Starla for informing me and Tha Sauce crew for promoting the project for us! They're awesome!!! Now everybody be more inspired! :nicework:

And Kyle - He could possibly change it later if he wants... People change their minds, you know. :P Stop picking on me. Cut me some slack.

Kinslayer

09-30-2009, 05:22 AM

cool, the project has now seen some publicity...

There's a track on the tracklist that is almost entirely vocals that hasn't been claimed yet, Theophany brought it to my attention, this could be done as a collaborative effort by the vocalists who plan to be involved, anyone that wants to can PM me here, IM me on Yahoo (address is in my contact info) or AIM and let's see what we can come up with.

Bahamut

09-30-2009, 05:23 AM

Oh I think I forgot to mention - I'm available for vocals if anyone wants it for their track (baritone).

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-30-2009, 09:10 AM

Welcome to a ton of new mixers.... Our list is getting bloody red... oh, joy joy.

I am also accepting a bonus album now so if anyone wants to do tracks that someone has already claimed - that would be awesome.

Level 99

09-30-2009, 09:51 AM

Welcome to a ton of new mixers.... Your backs are getting bloody red from all this whipping... oh, joy joy.

Fixed it for ya.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-30-2009, 09:53 AM

Fixed it for ya.

hahahahaha...Thanks...Honest. :P

Saunders

09-30-2009, 01:50 PM

Okay, I gotta ask something, what is this song called?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzKdqPBpO0
Does it have a name or is it just like "Music Finale"??

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

09-30-2009, 08:00 PM

Okay, I gotta ask something, what is this song called?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzKdqPBpO0
Does it have a name or is it just like "Music Finale"??

Haha... Let's just say there are a few tracks in the original soundtrack that aren't there. It's kind of lame, but that's the way it goes. K.B. mentioned he could probably rip some tracks. I don't know if he's still willing to do it, but I would still like the unreleased tracks to be remixed as well. Knowing the song you pointed out is really a nice source.... that's the American version for credits. The Japanese got "Making An Oath to the Blue Sky" with Japanese lyrics. The soundtrack I have posted is the Japanese version.

This is copied and pasted from Wiki: An additional production credit was given to Takeo Miratsu, who served as an arranger for certain tracks, while Michiko Naruke and Kazuhiko Toyama retained their roles as arrangers and primary album supervisors.

Kinslayer

10-01-2009, 08:54 AM

Guess what Jade, creativity prevailed!!! I'll be working all weekend on perfecting the mix idea I have, so you can expect my WIP soon...

Siamey

10-03-2009, 07:04 PM

Does anyone know that flutey instrument played in "Inn" and other songs? its like a whistley flutey thing. It is in a lot of wild west songs, and also I'm pretty sure it is the instrument that Heihachi plays in Sukiyaki Western Django if anyone has seen that 2 hour waste of time.

Thanks!

K.B.

10-04-2009, 12:15 AM

Also, if anyone can whistle, and I mean really whistle, doing so would make for a perfect outro on more than one track. For the suggestion box.

Haha... Let's just say there are a few tracks in the original soundtrack that aren't there. It's kind of lame, but that's the way it goes. K.B. mentioned he could probably rip some tracks. I don't know if he's still willing to do it, but I would still like the unreleased tracks to be remixed as well. Knowing the song you pointed out is really a nice source.... that's the American version for credits. The Japanese got "Making An Oath to the Blue Sky" with Japanese lyrics. The soundtrack I have posted is the Japanese version.
Because it's appropriate, let's break this down like so...

The good: I have retitled, retagged and reordered the existing minipsf library so it conforms to the Complete Tracks listing. I threw in a playlist and a readme addendum explaining the changes. All credit for the ripping belongs to the original ripper, someone42. I e-mailed him as a courtesy to ask if I can submit this revised version to zophar's and other mirrors, but for now the rar can be found here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zegddmlwd4m/Wild_Arms_minipsf.rar). Saunders, thank you for your offer; please feel free to take and host as you desire.

The bad: there are still 15 tracks from CT that are not in the rar. Make that 16 tracks missing from the game once the music to the final movie (NA, possibly PAL as well) is included. They are missing because, as I have come to understand, it is impossible to convert streaming audio into a psf or minipsf format. This is because streamed music is played directly from the CD without being stored in the console's memory and passed through it's audio chip (this might be a crude explanation, but I think it's roughly accurate). Yep, you guessed it, all 16 tracks are streamed, not sequenced. This leaves us with 16 better-sounding tracks, but 16 tracks that cannot be converted into a game-specific audio format.

The ugly: these 16 tracks can be ripped from the game as wavs. So far, I haven't been able to convert them to mp3s (or ogg, etc); using the rip utility I have (Cube Media Player) gives poor qual and using FreeConverter to convert to mp3 after-the-fact gives snaps - so we're left with 290mb of music. And that's just super for bandwidth, neverminding the potential copyright issues with distributing game music in a common audio format, which right there is the real show-stopper. One could argue that, since the soundtracks were remastered, that distributing a wav/mp3 of the original game music isn't actually violating the copyright, but I'm fairly certain this wouldn't fly. And I'm fairly certain it's not a risk this site should take, which is why I'm not going to post any links here without explicit permission from site staff. If it were just me... but it's not, and I don't want to risk getting ocr in trouble. Feel free to PM me if you want the link to the music for the final movie; I think it would be ok to post it here since it's not on any soundtrack, but I'd rather be safe.

That's not the answer we wanted, but I at least hope that the revised track listing is of some use.

JaDE ARaN HaRuNo

10-05-2009, 08:03 PM

Alright guys - let's welcome a few new members to our project. Vampire Hunter Dan, -RK-, John Revoredo, E-Bison, Wintermute, Stephen Kennedy, and Willrock (not in that order.)

I will be leaving Vegas to Florida tomorrow (10-06-09) for a 2 week vacation to visit my family and friends. Please send me the WIPs through my e-mail or PMs. I don't have internet at my mother's house, but my friends have internet and they will provide it for me if I need it.

K.B. - thanks so much for your effort and assistance. :) I will look into it when I come back since I've been so busy with packing and *cough*DragonWarriorVideoGames*cough*... so excuse my slacking off. ^_^

Love you all and see you later.