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djpretzel
06-19-2004, 07:17 PM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

*Drasiir
06-19-2004, 07:34 PM
Stunning. Plain and simple.

InfinitysEnd
06-19-2004, 07:45 PM
After taking piano lessons for 11 years, I think I can say a few things about this piece, though I'll try not to be overly critical. Over the years I've tinkered around with game music themes but never really sat down and did my own arrangement.

Anyway, I've done Zelda 3's ending in my own spare time and I must say that this arrangement is very relaxing and done very emotionally and passionately. However, the only thing I have to say against this piece is that you really didn't stray far from the path. Not that this is a really bad thing, since the original score is excellent in itself, it's just that when you are free to do an arrangement, you have complete freedom and a neverending amount of possibilities. I feel that the player kind of stayed around the center of the keyboard and didn't really go too high or to low. The piece could use a lot of bassy keys, and a little bit more variety in the left hand, instead of the arpeggios and mostly mid-to-high ground that it covers overall. It is still thoroughly enjoyable, and will remain a permanent part of my mp3 collection. This is the best Zelda song Koji Kondo ever wrote and it makes me wonder why he's never gone back to it after all these years...you have done it justice, it just wouldn't hurt to expand your horizons a little bit. ;)

Durinthal
06-19-2004, 08:35 PM
Ever since I first arrived at OCR I've been waiting for a remix of this track.. and now that there is one, it's just what I had been hoping for.

_Rain_Man_
06-19-2004, 10:50 PM
Beautiful. I love it.

Ashgad
06-20-2004, 03:46 AM
Wow. This is my favorite videogame song ever, and you've done a great job preserving and expanding upon its spirit in this track. God, I love piano ReMixes. Thank you for sharing this great interpretation with us, BogusRed.

Fray
06-20-2004, 06:46 AM
Wow, this is an impressive, moving piano piece, I dare say one of the best on OCRemix. Arrangement and performance are stellar; I didn't really like the piano sound used here -- I think it's too bright for the mood, and I hate bright pianos anyway, although they're a necessary evil when you need one to cut through a mix... Anyway that's kind of a matter of preference. Great stuff!

RimFrost the Tourianist
06-20-2004, 08:05 AM
A great piano remix from a great original tune.

Trepie Number 3
06-20-2004, 11:18 AM
i most definitely love this remix.

Millman
06-20-2004, 07:14 PM
Pretty nice. I really like what BogusRed's done with the ALttP ending theme. It's an already-great song, done even better. It's gentle, and he piano gives it a very realistic feel instead of a video game. It almost feels as though it were composed in the eighteenth century. The deviation from the standard chord structure was something that jumped at me right away. At first it was dissapointing because I was expecting certain chord changes at certain times like the original, but after a while, the basic bass chords sounded really cool. I like this, a lot. Good job BogusRed! 10/10!

NekoKun
06-20-2004, 08:09 PM
omg i love it! not only is it remix number 1200, but its one of the best piano-only remixes i've ever heard, and i've listened to almost every song on the site. *thumbs up* YES!

Raziellink
06-20-2004, 08:11 PM
It's excellent! I always thought that this song was very touching, and the lonely piano just brings out the best of it. There just isn't a better instrument to make a remix about this song. And personally, i had the idea this was actually a 100%, true classical music song. And in this case, that's a huge compliment. It just sounds so complete and authentic!

pixlz
06-20-2004, 11:02 PM
*nods* spoon.

excellent remix.

13370Burrit0
06-20-2004, 11:23 PM
From start to finish, this is a must-listen must-save to your music player of choice remix. It's an emotionally capturing take on one of the better ending themes in any Nintendo game. I would recommend this to anyone with ears, it's hard not to love this piece.

Zelda 3 is my favorite game of all time, and this piece does it justice. If music is something that can bring back a memory then this piece brought me back to the first time I beat Zelda 3 nearly 11 years ago.

Nigel Simmons
06-21-2004, 12:23 AM
Eh. It's an ALRIGHT remix, but I just don't like it much. I guess it's the piano sound. I'm so picky about my piano sounds, it's not even funny. Seems like every sampled piano I come accross just sounds unrealistic and cheesey.

I'm not that crazy about piano arrangements either, so that figures into the equation.

Cubie_J
06-21-2004, 01:08 AM
I've always really loved this song in it's original form, and this is a very grood remix of it. At parts it's a bit iffy, but overall it's very pretty and I loved it. ^_^

Bahamut
06-21-2004, 05:50 AM
Wow, this is such a nice rearrangement of the ending song from A Link to the Past...I love it!

Ytmh
06-21-2004, 07:22 AM
A couple of questions;

That piano sounds really really...well, if it's not a sample, then it's a crappy piano.

Too bad really, because even if the arrangement is flat and ordinary, it's a shame it gets messed up (even further) just because the piano sounds so awful.

Another unimpressive remix that didn't survive the shift+delete might. :(

--- Hey hold on ---

I just looked over the judge board thing. Hey it's nice they help out with all the mix process and all, but dude, um. I still can't change my mind about the piano.

Or rather, piano sounding thing.

RimFrost the Tourianist
06-21-2004, 01:55 PM
Makes me wanna go out and play Zelda 3 again.

BogusRed
06-21-2004, 02:49 PM
A couple of questions;

That piano sounds really really...well, if it's not a sample, then it's a crappy piano.

Too bad really, because even if the arrangement is flat and ordinary, it's a shame it gets messed up (even further) just because the piano sounds so awful.

Another unimpressive remix that didn't survive the shift+delete might. :(

--- Hey hold on ---

I just looked over the judge board thing. Hey it's nice they help out with all the mix process and all, but dude, um. I still can't change my mind about the piano.

Or rather, piano sounding thing.
Could you Ytmh, or anyone else, recommend a better sound font? I got the soundfont for this piece I think from Hammer Sound. You aren't the first one to complain about the font. Any suggestions?

Thank you guys btw, for all of your awsome comments!

Lacour
06-21-2004, 03:17 PM
actually i think...we should've left the original song alone. :( i mean the remix was, well decent but doesn't compare up to the game version.

Kye-U
06-21-2004, 07:36 PM
I think this remix is great, and there should be more remixes of this certain song.

BogusRed, I thought this was a recording of you playing the piano... :oops: Thanks Ytmh for bursting my bubble.

BogusRed
06-22-2004, 12:15 AM
I think this remix is great, and there should be more remixes of this certain song.

BogusRed, I thought this was a recording of you playing the piano... :oops: Thanks Ytmh for bursting my bubble.
It was me playing the piano! I just recorded it through MIDI. If you were to listen to me play this song live, there wouldn't be much difference as far as skill level. The arrangement would be different however, because I play improvisationally. I play all the songs I know differently each time I play them.

Kye-U
06-22-2004, 05:56 AM
Whoa, pretty good :D

Thanks for explaining that to me :)

edgeone
06-22-2004, 07:36 AM
I agree that the keyboard needs some left to be desired. I will help her to find a real piano and re-record this for our new talent. I pro :twisted: mise you all it will sound great when we are done.

anclunn
06-22-2004, 12:39 PM
Simply doing this piece in a single instrument takes something away from it. I remember beating the game several times over and over, just to hear this song . I think it honestly needs to be orchestral, otherwise it just loses the magic.

I guess I really have no right to complain though, making a ReMix (Although this is closer to an arrangment) doesn't take away from the origional. If it weren't for the fact that I'm already deep within remixing another song I'd jump at a follow up to this, but would probably still fall short of the origional. Some songs just can't be done much better than when they were on the SNES. (*couch* Magus theme *cough*).

Geoffrey Taucer
06-22-2004, 06:30 PM
absolutely beautiful. It's been so long since I've heard the original that I don't remember it at all, but I absolutely love this piece. Very blissful and beautiful.

Ytmh
06-23-2004, 02:19 AM
Well, no. I'm not very good with soundfonts and all that jazz, if I really intended to do something with a piano I'd record a live one. (If you look hard enough, there is always a friend of a friend who owns a piano, or an uncle, etc etc.)

And, well, it sounds like an improvisation, which is why I didn't really dig it much. Improvising on a song is all fine and dandy but you have to be really incredible to craft it really well and all that stuff.

VGJunky
06-23-2004, 06:51 AM
I think it's great, awesome for a relaxing piece to listen to.

BogusRed
06-23-2004, 03:48 PM
Well, no. I'm not very good with soundfonts and all that jazz, if I really intended to do something with a piano I'd record a live one. (If you look hard enough, there is always a friend of a friend who owns a piano, or an uncle, etc etc.)

Yeah sure I've got relatives and friends who own pianos but honestly, how many people do you know that have pianos that are actually in tune and in good shape? I'm looking into possibly using one of the concert pianos at my college.

Dhsu
06-23-2004, 05:27 PM
I can sympathize with how hard it is to find both a good piano AND decent recording equipment in the same place. Which is why I'm lucky to have friends with awesome SoundFonts. :D

Thornless Rose
06-24-2004, 06:08 AM
not my style, but it works. beautifully arranged piece of music, definitely of OCR standards. if you dig piano and zelda, check it out.

SirLouie
06-25-2004, 05:02 PM
Very minimal piece. No bells, no whistles, no strings, no in-game samples.

No kidding.

This arrangement is beautiful, relaxing, and emotional; it's just what Link needs after a hard day saving the world. I love the expression in varied velocity - I read that the original version of this piece didn't have touch sensitivity, and I cannot bear to imagine this piece without it.

The extra high note at 3:08 is out of tune, just like many real pianos at that octave :wink:. From 2:56 on, it seems to be like Link is readying himself for rest, but is fighting sleep, and at 3:08 he just slumps over, respectfully, from exhaustion. After all, he just saved the world. Again. And a person watching just goes "aww..." as the rest of the piece is Link gingerly falling asleep clutching his pillow tight, getting his well deserved rest.

(everybody with me now) "Aww..."

A real piano would have been helpful for expressing the ending just a little bit better, as the piano sample loops the high note without decaying it (see 3:31 - 3:37). But all in all I like this remix a lot.

Bravo, BogusRed - I admire both your musical arrangement and your performance talent.

Less Ashamed Of Self
06-27-2004, 09:21 AM
The extra high note at 3:08 is out of tune, just like many real pianos at that octave :wink:.

Thank you, 30+ replies and I thought no one was going to mention it.
The piano does not sound like crap, it sounds very good, it's just this one note IMO.

Sandman53
06-29-2004, 01:05 AM
I loved this song all the way....beautifully played. The best hands down...

Shadow of Light
06-29-2004, 10:04 AM
This song = awesome. Excellent job BogusRed.

Aranel Calafalas
07-01-2004, 03:14 AM
OMFG!!! I have heard some great piano playing in my life, but this song takes the cake. It was simply beeeeutiful!

Cerd_Fen
07-02-2004, 05:36 AM
It was me playing the piano! I just recorded it through MIDI. If you were to listen to me play this song live, there wouldn't be much difference as far as skill level. The arrangement would be different however, because I play improvisationally. I play all the songs I know differently each time I play them.


...Do you still have the original recording through the MIDI keyboard? I'd like to learn this song if you'd let me. :D

BogusRed
07-04-2004, 06:38 PM
It was me playing the piano! I just recorded it through MIDI. If you were to listen to me play this song live, there wouldn't be much difference as far as skill level. The arrangement would be different however, because I play improvisationally. I play all the songs I know differently each time I play them.


...Do you still have the original recording through the MIDI keyboard? I'd like to learn this song if you'd let me. :D

Yes I have the MIDI available for download here:
http://www.bogusred.net/mmdl/music/BogusRed-Into_the_Golden_Sunset.mid

BlueEnvy
07-07-2004, 07:46 PM
Well, the arrangement end of this song is fairly good, giving a new age-ish take on this zelda theme. However, the performance was a little iffy to me. As a whole it feels very choppy: sometimes you seem to rush a bit, or an arpeggiated passage isnt very smooth. Things like this occur frequently throughout and it would have been better if more time had been spent on the performance. However, much of what I said could be due to you playing it differently each time; improvising differently with the theme each time. I know from experience in improvising on the piano how one changes the song each time its played, which does make the performance end less solid. I usually memorize almost all of a song of mine so that only one or two spots are constantly different, but that's just me. Anyway, moving away from the performance, the arrangement itself was nice, except for some spots where it didnt flow well.
2:36- There is a resolving chord, followed directly by a tense sounding one. It just doesn't sound right to me, and the change isn't smooth.
3:15- There is a space followed by a lead into the next part that sounds awkward.
The Ending- The lower chord after the high notes doesn't seem to fit, as it is rather random and unnecessary.

OK, so those are picky things but to me they hurt the piece. Overall, I think that the arrangement and performance is good but could definately been improved on.

~Blue

BBB
07-23-2004, 03:29 PM
I love it. If I credit you, can I play this at a concert?

premiumg
09-15-2004, 08:22 PM
can someone make a sheet music out of this for me??

I dont have the software to make it from midi.

jordex
09-17-2004, 12:19 AM
you could prob find a free trial of one on google or something

now for the remix, its beautiful, i love it! but i prefere mcvaffes version more, I'm just not a big a fan of plain piano

BBB
09-27-2004, 11:03 PM
can someone make a sheet music out of this for me??

I dont have the software to make it from midi.
i'm working on it. i only have band in a box, though and this is my first time.

RoeTaKa
09-27-2004, 11:48 PM
BogusRed I respect you so much, so much to login to your web site and not be sure what to do :wink:.
Your piano skills are quite the member of my heart :D yes I sent this song to my girlfriend and we listen to it alot sometimes...whilst drinking tea haha.

Kyros
11-21-2004, 10:22 PM
Yes, when a sheet music of this is made, please let me know on aim

frashpikass
12-04-2004, 06:59 PM
I love this song!
I cry when I listen it!

Elana
01-09-2005, 07:05 PM
Hi everyone. My name's Elana, and I'm new here (so be nice! :wink: ). This arrangement, "Into the Golden Sunset" by BogusRed, literally moved me to create an account for these forums, just so I could comment on this breathtaking piece of work. I myself am not a mixer, and my only experience in musical composition involves about 6 years of piano lessons :oops: However, like the saying goes, I may not know art, but I know what I like. And I love this piece. I find the source material to be emotive and moving to begin with, and BogusRed's arrangement captures everything I love about the original. I can't stop listening to it. Thank you so much for doing one of my most beloved songs justice.

rotarywrath
01-10-2005, 06:41 PM
Truely a work of art! This is one of my favorite Oc mixes!

Jabberbox
07-02-2005, 10:39 PM
although the piano synth got on my nerves at first, it really is'nt noticeable if you just let yourself get carried away wih the music itself.

BogusRed
07-05-2005, 04:40 PM
Thank you so much Elana for your kind words about my mix. And thank you to everyone else too! I agree with you DJjabberbox that the synth is a bit annoying. I still haven't found the perfect sound font. I found a decent one that i used in beyond midgar but it has problems with low velocities so i have to maually go in note by note and raise the velocities in quiet areas.

Jabberbox
08-18-2005, 05:59 AM
Thank you so much Elana for your kind words about my mix. And thank you to everyone else too! I agree with you DJjabberbox that the synth is a bit annoying. I still haven't found the perfect sound font. I found a decent one that i used in beyond midgar but it has problems with low velocities so i have to maually go in note by note and raise the velocities in quiet areas.
anyway... if you mess around with a graphic equalizer just right it makes it sound like its from a real piano
(I dont have the specifics right now, i'll send 'em to the forum once I get the numbers down... I use Windows media because winamp is too resource intensive for my seven-year-old computer)

Gekisen
11-17-2005, 11:33 AM
this one is a definite keeper. there was no question about it. its beautiful, simply.

SynthesizedStampede
12-18-2005, 07:30 AM
Honestly, in my mind, as soon as I finished listening to it, I declared this song THE BEST piano OCRemix I've heard...and I've had my share of piano remixes. And no, I am not biased, because this was the first time I've ever heard the LttP Credits Song in my life.

I love most of the piano remixes already, so it gets extra points for having the right instrument, but omg, this is just such a beautiful masterpiece, nobody should pass on it. I am so totally serious haha this is truly a MOVING piece. Nearly brought tears to my eyes just listening to it (shut up I'm a sensitive guy haha).

lady zelda
01-16-2006, 04:10 AM
The jury is out! BogusRed is un-arguably (for lack of better grammar) a true jedi-master piano mixer of the highest order (all for lack of a better term)! The LttP credit theme is one of the most beautiful themes ever made in VGs and who better to not only do it justice, but take it not only to the next level, but beyond expectation into the stars and beyond! I mean, the main theme already has the beauty, but this mix enhances it one-hundred fold! It truly encompasses the pure atmosphere of the closing of LttP. What more can I say? I am in desperate need of somebody to give me pointers on how to find better words to describe it...but in short, I LOVE IT!!! This is definitely material for the next Zelda!

pokezel
01-30-2006, 11:14 PM
This piece is beautiful. Stunning. I'm not so crazy about sound quality, so the quality of the song hasn't bugged me. To tell you the truth, I havent noticed it since I read this topic. Moving on, this song moves me to tears. It is absolutley wonderful. Instant favorite. Thank you, BogusRed, for making such a beautiful arrangement.

satscom
02-01-2006, 03:13 AM
I havent really left any genre of music untouched. I love some music, and hate some. This track went so far as to move me. that is ALL that matters. Beautiful.. carry on

Kozmo
03-08-2006, 03:05 AM
I am very fond of both mixes on this site by BogusRed. Her work is so emotive and flowing, and the upper-register gets me every time. I find myself caught up in the parts like 2:30, when the song is really flowing and moving. Not really any big complaints here. One of the few instances in which i just want to express myself as a big fan and say that I am most certainly looking forward to more.

KogeJoe
02-01-2007, 09:26 PM
But this arrangement SUCKS. Too amateur...

The guy probably has a bad ear, and has limited playing skills. WRONG key, WRONG chords, and TOO much goddamn ornamentation.

I've been called before on my peeve of key. "What's in a key?" Someone has asked? KEY IS EVERYTHING!!! If you can't appreciate a song in the KEY it's been written, and just say "ooh, that sounds KOO-el," it's not really saying much. It just shows what a musical bumpkin you really are. A song played out of the original key it was intended in sounds REALLY out of place. Sometimes, it sounds like it's not even the original piece at all. A song played OUT of key, sounds dumbed down; like the person was too unskilled and inexperienced to play in the original key, so he/she had to play it in a different key to make it "easier" on his fingers, and on his/her little mind that thinks the key of F# or Gb is "too hard!," when it's probably the easiest. What can be easier than playing on ALL BLACK KEYS, goddamn it??? That and Db Major are, I think my favs... A major's also really nice...

Each key has a different flavor to the ears, and this is pronunced for a pianist, who has the extra sense of touch; he/she has to modify his hands to fit the chords, so not only does it "sound" different, but FEELS different as well.

Though a GOOD piano arrangement is in order for this, one of my favorite, if not my most, from all of Zelda: A Link to the Past.

This one tries, but doesn't even come close.

Practice, practice, practice, and better luck next time.

Degree
04-02-2007, 04:21 PM
I totally disagree.

This piece is absolutely beautiful. The piano work sounds great coming out of my speakers. The arrangement is wonderful and the piano still sounds great, even after 3 years of age.

This piece is able to evoke emotions out of me that other pieces aren't able to. When this happens, I know for a fact that it is special.

3 years later and this piece is still a winner.
Definitely worth a download to add to your collection!

Susie, I wish you we're around and produced more. You have amazing potential.
You'll probably never read this, but just know that this mix will always have a place among my favorite remixes.

Much love.

Top Gun
10-12-2007, 02:32 AM
I just stumbled across this track in my music folder, and I was utterly blown away. Beautiful and moving from start to finish. I have to ashamedly admit that I've yet to play LttP (/me ducks rotten fruit of indignant masses), the segue into that oh-so-familiar overworld theme was perfect. I'm a sucker for solo piano tracks; there's a simplicity and elegance to them that just can't be achieved in any other medium. This definitely ranks as one of the best I've heard. Excellent work. :)

Geoffrey Taucer
04-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Beautiful piece. Definitely one of my favorite piano arrangements on the site.

Davos-Moon
07-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Defiantly one of my all time favorite songs from a video game. This is an fantastic remix as it sticks to the main style of the original song but still provides the listener with a peaceful but interesting mood. Awesome

Ryu2Wolf
01-07-2009, 01:49 AM
You know, I kinda wanted to hear this one remixed when I heard it on the game and you just made it so much nicer. The piano is superb! Very relaxing too.

Lucentas
06-25-2009, 07:16 PM
What, have I just been purposely skipping all of the good LttP mixes on this site or something?

This is gorgeous.

OA
06-08-2010, 03:59 PM
Very nice rendition of a very nice theme, this is the perfect length, with good transitions, and some nice ornamentation. I've spent half the morning listening to this one, and I really enjoy it. :-)

Specter597
10-08-2010, 03:43 PM
This is by far my favorite music from LttP. I think when I first heard it (after 50 hours of playing ...) I wept. (Hey, I was twelve.)

I guess my question is, how is this a remix? I see that it is listed as a mix of the ending and the main theme, but the piece is pretty nearly an unmodified cover or arrangement of the song by the same title "Into the Golden Sunset" as it occurs in-game.

There are two songs that play when you defeat Gannon for the final time, "Ending and Fanfare" and "Into the Golden Sunset"

I loved the song so much that at the time I hooked my console up to a tape deck and reloaded my last save so I could manage a ghetto recording of it. I'm soo glad that BogusRed took the time to work on an arrangement of it for everyone here.

Liontamer
10-08-2010, 06:28 PM
I guess my question is, how is this a remix? I see that it is listed as a mix of the ending and the main theme, but the piece is pretty nearly an unmodified cover or arrangement of the song by the same title "Into the Golden Sunset" as it occurs in-game.

There are two songs that play when you defeat Gannon for the final time, "Ending and Fanfare" and "Into the Golden Sunset"

No, that would be wrong. :lol: http://www.google.com/search?&ie=UTF-8&q="Into+the+Golden+Sunset"+Zelda

The official soundtrack for A Link to the Past is here http://vgmdb.net/album/885 - Susie's arrangement arranges the staff roll portion of "Ending". It's a conservative but interpretive & personalized arrangement for piano.

Susie included a MIDI on her site, and 3 others have performed covers of her arrangement, thus why you can find other YouTube performances of "Into the Golden Sun."

Marmiduke
05-14-2011, 10:20 AM
There's some great, interpretive stuff happening in the background, but I was left wanting so much more from this piece. I agree that this is a theme that deserves respect, and to not start messing around with it is a way of being respectful to it, but I would have preferred some dignified alterations to the main melody, other than the decorative piano cheerleading going on behind it. It's all nice, but so is the original. The arrangement is terribly unexciting and a missed opportunity.
Furthermore, the piano sample is tinny and fails to draw the emotional potential out of the notes. A piano rendition of this theme (while this is still a very pleasant piece of work) should be much more. I just think that when you have a big canvas and a big brush, you should paint with big strokes. And this seemed far too close to the original to be considered something truly great. I do like what's here, but I LOVE the SNES version... so I feel there's something lost with the decisions made in this remix.