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djpretzel
07-22-2004, 02:11 AM
What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

Liontamer
07-22-2004, 02:24 AM
I loved it.

Period. :wink:

Bahamut
07-22-2004, 02:41 AM
Nice, I was just listening to Triforce Majeure too. I'm starting to get a penchant for orchestral techno, it's just so...good...

Anyway, good stuff, I see you finally got some better samples ;).

SirRus
07-22-2004, 02:43 AM
I would have to say zircon really is one of the hardest working mixers. He is all over the WIP boards and remixing forums lending a hand and his extensive knowledge when he can as well as providing OCR now with a brilliant debut mix. I heard this on the WIP boards and fell in love with its hard hitting and evocative style. I can't wait to hear more songs from this remixer.

Rock on zircon.

Flare4War
07-22-2004, 02:49 AM
Very nice mix all around, I didn't think there was a dull moment.

Great Work.

RimFrost the Tourianist
07-22-2004, 03:58 AM
Nice job here ! ,it's so cool to hear some remixers actually take on the difficult task of doing orchestral techno from well known games .
The way i see it orchestral techno is in direct comparison to symphonic black metal in terms of melody and mood ..some gothic/power metal bands nowadays also use this.
When i hear stuff like this ,i think of power/black metal ..is just the way it is :)

HershDawg
07-22-2004, 04:01 AM
The only thing i can think is DAMN. Great job on of the better chrono trigger remixes.

Isk
07-22-2004, 04:11 AM
has a sort of Nightmare Before Christmas on speed vibe. I like it.

CykoticZZ
07-22-2004, 04:51 AM
I remember when this was a WIP. Everytime i hear it i love it. Great job zircon, although we knew it was gonna get accepted =D. Time to make more like this one! Although i coulda used more cowbell..

Zaphlin
07-22-2004, 04:58 AM
Yes! very very nice. It's good to have another remix of the trial.

Strife.
07-22-2004, 05:13 AM
I think this was a great mix. It had a good sound choice (actually, excellent instrument), but I thought it went on for a pretty long time. Other than that, great addition to the CC Remix collection!

Mr. Dillznick
07-22-2004, 05:42 AM
You can definitely hear the resemblance with Triforce Majeure, but this is probably just as good!

Nice work Kupo!

The Xyco
07-22-2004, 06:15 AM
The techno-orchestral combination has been a favortie of mine since I became familar with wonderful works of Yuki Kajiura. While this, and Triforce Majeure, are of a different fell than her music, they have always sounded incredible, dramatic, epic, and powerful. The strings are just awesome, period.

I've heard critics of this genre claim that the orchestral parts of these tracks are added to create a "cheap dramatic effect", but I find them to be an integral part of the song. I hope this inspires even more mixers to create songs of a similar genre, cause in just about every way imaginable, it sounds totally awesome.

maniacodepressif
07-22-2004, 06:57 AM
Great, nice work man!

GhostBear17
07-22-2004, 12:22 PM
Whoa, this is very nice. This piece obviously shows how much time was put into making it.

Now I can't stop listening to it, well done!

RoeTaKa
07-22-2004, 02:05 PM
Beautifully arranged and well thought. Very recogniseable and catchy. I love it, excellent.

Lacour
07-22-2004, 03:11 PM
very well done...very upbeat and catchy. :D make more like these. i give it a 10

Northern_Fist
07-22-2004, 04:06 PM
Indeed - it blends electronica and orchestral well, and it wasn't even repetitive. I give it a solid 10, and a high standing on my playlist!

k u n g f u c h i c k e n
07-22-2004, 05:07 PM
You did it man. You got the remix up. Good work, and BTW LOOK FOR OUR COLLAB SOON.... yeah.

anclunn
07-22-2004, 05:51 PM
Just when you thought Chrono Trigger had been done to death, somebody smacks you in the face with an awsome remix like this. It hurts but I love it!

zircon
07-22-2004, 05:57 PM
thanks, everyone :D getting on OCR was my motivation for getting into digital music, so this mix getting posted made me very happy. a big thanks to various wip and remixing forum people for helping me out with an assortment of issues that came up in the production of this.

In case anyone is curious, I used the following tools for this remix:

* FLStudio 4.5.2 for sequencing
* Fruity soundfont player for all the orchestral instruments
* Free drum samples, all of which can be downloaded at http://www.soundtempest.net/ in the resources section
* z3ta+ for a few of the lead synths and harmony synths
* Roland V-Synth (which I've now returned) for the 2nd chorus lead
* 3xosc and String Theory for various other harmony synths
* Free soundfonts for everything else, including Florestan Martellato Strings, Cadenza, Cadenza Strings, and Fluid R3

If I remember correctly, almost all effects were FL effects, with maybe a few mda ones - I don't quite remember. Finally, if anyone wants, I can send them the .flp for this, though I don't know how useful it would be to them.

vherub
07-22-2004, 08:03 PM
This particular "trial" theme was one of the first remixes I went looking for back when I originally stumbled upon this site (which was a little easier since there were less than a handful of CT remixes then). The rsn file sufficed- as it was better than the alternative of leaving the snes on during the trial scene while the music looped or later when rom's became widely distributed. But I still hungered after an actual remix. So it was with a bit of a backstory that I gleefully saw this remix hitting the site, and I must say I am both happy and slightly disappointed (perhaps because I have held my breath for so long and the lack of oxygen has made me loopy). I have a tremendously positive reaction, simply because of my joy for the source material. The trial scene, as simple as the music is, I find to be maddeningly addictive. It serves as the meat of this remix and I was hoping for it to receive a more classical/traditional orchestra interpretation. This is really a matter of personal preference as I still find myself addicted to the beat and have listened to this remix over and over again as I write this. Anyway, great job on capturing a classic, and underappreciated theme.

Cadmus
07-23-2004, 02:46 AM
awesome...very professional sounding

InfinitysEnd
07-23-2004, 05:33 AM
it took about 10 seconds before this song became a permanent part of my collection. That's about three-four minutes less than usual. Great job.

playingtokrush
07-23-2004, 08:43 PM
Holy shit.

Fieari
07-23-2004, 09:09 PM
Nice work. I too am a huge fan of "The Trial in Concert" and while that peice will never be displaced in my heart, this one may well come up beside it. As I see it, The Trial in Concert is to be played during the actual trial scene. This peice is to be played AFTER the trial, during the excape. I don't particularly remember what actual music CT played during the excape, but this should be there instead of whatever forgettable theme it happened to be. It has that dark edge to it, a hurried rushed feeling (not in terms of polish, in terms of getting my heart pumping) and a sense of distinct urgency that feels appropriate for "You've just been screwed, now we need to get out of this mess." The piano version of this song is more "You are now being screwed".

Well done. I only wish I was able to hack together a version of trigger that used OC remixes instead of the OSVs...

Mogman
07-24-2004, 04:15 AM
This tune would be PERFECT for CT:Resurrection when the King is on trial,kupo!

Khendros
07-26-2004, 12:58 AM
Its not often I come out of the woodwork, but something needs to be said about this piece.

The piece itself is very true to the emotion in the song. I never thought much about this song when I heard it as BGM, but this remix really makes it stand out. There's a lot of added energy, and I love the beat. The arrangement itself is also excellent, and I love how the song builds.

Great job, Zircon.

LateralSnowflake
07-26-2004, 08:42 AM
This song makes me laugh every time I hear it because it quite closely emulates Disco Dan's Triforce Majeure piece. It's a great piece, though.

tgfoo
07-26-2004, 06:10 PM
Hmmm, I like it! :D

Cheese Soda
07-26-2004, 07:07 PM
Wow, this song is frigging awesome, LOVE IT!

Crono3of3time
07-27-2004, 01:27 AM
O.O WOOT!! I luv all stuff that is CHRONO TRIGGER! even my name says it... Crono... but this may be a Courtroom Classic!

DaBubba
07-27-2004, 07:38 AM
This is a beautiful, beautiful remix and I must have played it a dozen times already. This is the way the game should have remixed it (not that the original remix, used when you're running out of jail, isn't good).

More of this high-energy, intense-yet-orchestral stuff, please!

(And Smackahoe Tribe, where is that screenshot with the girl lying on the bed from? It looks familiar.)

Cheese Soda
07-27-2004, 12:50 PM
umm, i can answere that, it's from Prodject X.

KakTheInfected
07-27-2004, 01:32 PM
Wow, excellent song. Not a dull part in it at all. I would have liked some more bass, but bass doesn't make the song so I really can't complain. Really awesome stuff here.

9/10

zircon
07-27-2004, 03:02 PM
This is a beautiful, beautiful remix and I must have played it a dozen times already. This is the way the game should have remixed it (not that the original remix, used when you're running out of jail, isn't good).

More of this high-energy, intense-yet-orchestral stuff, please!

(And Smackahoe Tribe, where is that screenshot with the girl lying on the bed from? It looks familiar.)

As much as I like this style, I fear I would trivialize it by making another remix in a similar fashion. I *was* working on a remix of a Secret of the Stars battle theme, using a more dramatic (and less whimsical) approach to my instrumentation, but I decided against it.

Rex
07-27-2004, 07:02 PM
I really, really like this one. It accentuates, at various points, the pomp of the court, the corruption at work behind the scenes, and of course the urgency of the ensuing escape. It's now a toss-up between this and Suzumebachi's "Forever" for my favorite CT mix.

Great work, zircon!

Scanman
07-31-2004, 03:25 PM
there was something about it that remided me of some Danny Elfman work in Tim Burton Movies...

Chris Tonks
08-08-2004, 02:26 PM
I say, it's been a long time since I've heard a remix I've considered good enough to post in the forum about. Top stuff this, based on one of my favourite tunes from Chrono Trigger! :-D

sae
08-08-2004, 05:51 PM
Great work Zircon! After just listening to about a minute of it I had to write a congrats. I love this!

Coucou
08-10-2004, 11:37 AM
Excellent mix of electro and classical sounds.
I think it sounds like the other excellent remix:
Zelda 3 'Triforce Majeure' (http://www.ocremix.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR01184)
by Disco Dan.

SixthFlyingMan
08-11-2004, 09:12 PM
DAMN.... This guy's awesome! It sounded real frickin' weird for a minute, because it was Kingdom Trial and it wasn't Trial in Concert. However, it was simply excellent! It is actually on par with Trial in Concert, and from what I can tell, it was an initial submission! I gotta go check out Zircon's other stuff now...

EvilFreya
08-19-2004, 08:01 PM
WOW. I don't think I will get tired of listening to this remix. Even though there are only two 'Trial' remixes on the site, they are both awesome. I only wish that this one was a little longer. :D

flipt
08-26-2004, 03:11 PM
I liked it a lot!

The ONLY thing that disturbed me a little bit was the feeling I was listening to a christmas tune (Especially around 1:11), however the mix of orchestral sounds with the beat, and addition of synths made for a really really cool remix. This will be on my playlist for awhile.

8.5/10 :)

eoaifhgak;shg
09-04-2004, 02:03 AM
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Kefka's theme from Final Fantasy 6?

Angelus Laminarum
09-22-2004, 07:24 PM
Oh my god... 8O

This is jaw-dropping...

There is definite insanity :twisted: here, yes, yes... um... yes... and um... DAMN! 8O

I love the orchestral feel, mixed with the whole insane techno feel in between orchestral pieces, giving this mix a feel of the original with a little shock of ... DAMN! To spaz it up!

That was cool! And I have no problem with it being that long... it doesn't feel like it...

KUDOS! KEEP IT UP! :wink:

~Falcis Umbrae~

TwinTurboTerrorist
09-28-2004, 07:03 AM
WOW. This is one of the best remixes on the site, period. Your Triforce Majeure inspiration spurred you on to possibly equal that song on your FIRST SUBMISSION.

bonerxsxex
11-22-2004, 05:03 PM
great

5/5

Delwack
03-24-2005, 04:09 AM
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Kefka's theme from Final Fantasy 6?

I hadn't read the description, and I was trying to figure out what song from Chrono Trigger it came from, because I could have sworn it was a take off of kefka's theme.

So it's not just you =), maybe it's just the two of us... >.<

o19
08-22-2005, 09:25 PM
One of my top 5 from the site.

Very enthralling and amazingly cohesive for such a fast-paced melody.

Bummerdude
09-12-2005, 04:37 PM
Awesome remix. One of the first
I downloaded and I still havenīt regret it.

Drack
10-02-2005, 01:49 PM
This is incredible. I really liked the Kingdom Trial and this piece kicks it up to a whole new level.

This is my fav remix currently

ocremixfan
04-16-2006, 03:46 AM
When I was downloading this one I was thinking like this: "A 'Trial' remix... must be ordinary stuff!"
Oh my... I was wrong! DAMN wrong! Incredible remix! A masterpiece! You are a genius, zircon!

DragonFireKai
02-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Very interesting execution. Taking a orchestral piece, such as Kingdom Trial and making it into a Dance tune is common, but rarely do people still maintain the link to the orchestral segment of the original track.

Geoffrey Taucer
02-28-2007, 01:45 AM
Several of my girls are doing their floor routines to this mix this season, and it's a huge hit at the gym.

Ryze
09-22-2007, 12:29 PM
WOW! I maybe a little late but damn this is a good remix, probably one of my top 10 of all the remixes. 5 minutes and 11 seconds of pure audio joy for me!

GREAT WORK :)

yosefu
06-13-2009, 09:08 AM
Zircon's work is always ear candy for me. The song was mixed well and i just purely just loves this, so thankyou.

JadeAuto
12-09-2009, 03:28 AM
The bombast and flare of this song, turning a suspenseful tune of worry and fret into hyped-up symphonic bliss keep me coming back time after time. Even the slower parts of this song just give off a hyped up, edge of your seat with worry feeling.

Another song I can't get enough of. The strings totally make this ReMix worth it.

OA
05-06-2010, 07:47 PM
A few of the more legato samples haven't aged as well, but gdamn does the rest of this hold up strongly- excellent pacing, tight beats, and a real dramatic flair make this a killer mix all the way through. It contains a lot of cool zircon stylistic choices that with the benefit of hindsight have only been expanded upon in the past 6 years. The level of expansion is really good as well, with a lot of additions and some breakdowns too, and a solid flow.

Excellent stuff, and a stellar first sub. Also cool that it was the first song Larry ever YES'ed. Historic remix! :D

Marmiduke
09-28-2010, 04:55 AM
You'd never know this was a debut mix. zircon at his most embryonic. While this lacks some of the refinement that further years of expertise would award, it is still of extremely high calibre.
I like that this is very much bound to the classical roots of the source, and despite having dance conventions and sounds, it never really lowers into actually danceable territory. This isn't club music; it's closer to IDM, though with heavy emphasis on melody.
Samples are really great from the get-go. The pacing is superb and the arrangement is consistent with the quality of the mix. I think much better arrangements from zircon were still to come and I would say that is the area where he has made the biggest improvements. But debuts are rarely this strong or well-defined. I think this gains a lot of listening in retrospect.