To Buy or Not to Buy A DSi?

[Toadofsky]

Okay, so I've had my DS lite for about a good two years if not more than that, and have had good enjoyment out of it for some time now (Just got Henry Hatsworth and Metal Slug 7 for like 25 bucks total).

And after going to Gamestop and saw the trade in special, where if you trade in your DS Lite towards getting a DSi, you'd get $70 dollars store credit, and anything like the old DS or GBA SP, you'd get some cash for as well.

I've researched on some of the features of the DSi, and they sound cool, but I'd like your guys opinion, on it.

Would it be worth buying, or should I hold off until they come out with the inevitable super upgraded handheld?

I don't know if I'd do much photo on it, maybe some listening to music, but I just don't know.

And, are you guys going to pick one up as well?

[FuriousFure]

I'm not. not worth it to me. I rather save my money to put to a new tv.

[1337 1]

While I will confess to buying one myself (I've preordered it), I definitely do not claim that the DSi is a must have. Its a bit gimmicky, but I'm getting it as an addition to my DS lite, and for some obscure reasons that don't apply to the sane public.

Though the DSi shop could shape up to be interesting. Hopefully.

[danimal cannon]

I have a feeling this thing is going to do as well as the Gameboy Micro. Not well.

[abg]

I'm really interested in the DSi too. Here's basically what it comes down to for me- if Nintendo decides to let us play our Virtual Console games on it, I'm gonna run down to the store and buy one. Until then, I can't justify replacing my perfectly fine DS lite.

Something worth considering is that you've had your DS lite for two years now, and I'm assuming you mean that it's been working properly this whole time? If you decide to rush out and buy a DSi you're going to be investing in the first run of a new model of hardware... there could be some kinks in the design that might ultimately lead to a broken DS. Now, Nintendo's hardware has always been great for me, but that risk is still there.

[Bigfoot]

I got to use a DSi tonight. I'm definitely getting one. :)

[Hector]

I've had one for a few months. Definitely a cool item. Perhaps it's because I've been in Japan, but unlike a regular DS you can use it very easily to flirt or do similar cool stuff.

[OverCoat]

Am I the only one that still plays his old gameboy color?

I am actually playing Oracle of Seasons right now, lol

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

I'd get it just for the bigger screen, which is notably bigger than the DS Lite. The SD mem card slot is also appealing because we'll see some DS ware and maybe virtual console stuff, and that'd be sweet.

Of course from what I'm hearing, Wii points and DS points aren't going to cross over, I.E you can't use Wii points to buy DS Ware and vice versa. Bitch move, Nintendo.

[Toadofsky]

Something worth considering is that you've had your DS lite for two years now, and I'm assuming you mean that it's been working properly this whole time? If you decide to rush out and buy a DSi you're going to be investing in the first run of a new model of hardware... there could be some kinks in the design that might ultimately lead to a broken DS. Now, Nintendo's hardware has always been great for me, but that risk is still there.

There's been rumor going round that some games aren't compatible with DSi for some reason. Metroid Prime Hunters crashes/locks up for some strange reason, and some developers are a bit skeptical on it. But don't quote me on that, most of it is rumor.

THe more I've looked into it, and thought about it, I guess I'll wait. Especially for the inevitable DS 2 or whatever it'll be...:-P

[Hylian Lemon]

Am I the only one that still plays his old gameboy color?

I am actually playing Oracle of Seasons right now, lol
That's hardcore. My GBC has broken speakers, but once in a while I turn it on for nostalgia's sake.

I won't be getting a DSi yet. Maybe in the future, but the Lite is fine for now. Some of the new features do look interesting, though.

[Gollgagh]

Am I the only one that still plays his old gameboy color?

I am actually playing Oracle of Seasons right now, lol

that's actually the only game of mine that whose save battery hasn't died yet (excepting games that don't have save capability, obviously)

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that's actually the only game of mine that whose save battery hasn't died yet (excepting games that don't have save capability, obviously)

Wow, really?
I've just lately started playing Zelda II on my NES again, and occasionally playing SUper Mario Land I and II on my GB.

[OA]

My DS is hanging on to life by a thread, so this might be a logical upgrade time for me. None of the newer features really appeal to me though, but the potential downloadable games could be cool.

[The Mutericator]

I never upgraded to a DS Lite after it came out, so I'm still using my old DS. One of the guys from work had an imported DSi he let me try out; I'll definitely be getting one.

[Sag Ee Mana]

I never upgraded to a DS Lite after it came out, so I'm still using my old DS. One of the guys from work had an imported DSi he let me try out; I'll definitely be getting one.

Same for me.

And about playing the Gameboy Color, I did it few months ago with Pokemon Trading Card Game :lol:

And about it do you know if the TCG2 exists in english ? ^^''
I still like card games.

[DarkeSword]

Am I the only one that still plays his old gameboy color?

I am actually playing Oracle of Seasons right now, lol
GBC doesn't have a slot for DS games.

[SpanishFly]

I thought about getting a DSi, but knowing that it doesn't have a GBA slot kinda makes me have doubts. I mean, yeah, I still have my GBA laying around, but it's not a GBA SP, and I'd rather not have to bring 2 handhelds with me when I go places (i.e. cottage for a week), lol. Though.....I'd have to bring 2 if I wanted to play my old GBC games, anyway. But yeah, my DS Lite seems to be working fine, even if there's a crack on one of the hinges, I've duct taped over.

[Native Jovian]

I never upgraded to a DS Lite after it came out, so I'm still using my old DS.
Excuse the noob question, but I haven't bought a handheld since I bought my GBA. What exactly is the difference between a standard DS and a DS Lite? Is it something earth-shattering like the difference between GBA and GBA SP, or something relatively minor, more akin to the difference between the Brick and the Game Boy Pocket?

[Bigfoot]

Btw guys, this is a huge selling point. You can exit back to the menu from Pictochat without having to restart the DS. :P rofl

I also like how you can press the power button(not holding it down) during a game, and it will go back to the main menu.

The .3 megapixel camera is actually surprisingly good for being only .3

[TheSnowStorm]

I'm thinking of waiting until the DS Lite prices drop to $70 and buy one. I don't really care for the new features for the DSi

[OA]

Excuse the noob question, but I haven't bought a handheld since I bought my GBA. What exactly is the difference between a standard DS and a DS Lite? Is it something earth-shattering like the difference between GBA and GBA SP, or something relatively minor, more akin to the difference between the Brick and the Game Boy Pocket?

Better and brighter screen x100 is the main selling point, and it is pretty sleek. But really it's all about the screen.

[The Mutericator]

Excuse the noob question, but I haven't bought a handheld since I bought my GBA. What exactly is the difference between a standard DS and a DS Lite? Is it something earth-shattering like the difference between GBA and GBA SP, or something relatively minor, more akin to the difference between the Brick and the Game Boy Pocket?

http://images.google.com/images?q=nintendo+ds+phat

http://images.google.com/images?q=nintendo+ds+lite

DS Lite has a brighter screen and is smaller.

[The Pezman]

I've held out on a DS til now. This might be the time to jump in.

Are those cameras going to have any real purpose?

[Hylian Lemon]

http://images.google.com/images?q=nintendo+ds+phat

http://images.google.com/images?q=nintendo+ds+lite

DS Lite has a brighter screen and is smaller.
Also, the Lite's stylus can be differentiated from a sewing needle.

[Bigfoot]

I've held out on a DS til now. This might be the time to jump in.

Are those cameras going to have any real purpose?

Developers are probably going to make games out of using it.

[sgx]

DSi ware sounds pretty cool, but it's BS that this version of the DS costs more. The DS lite has been $130 forever. This one doesn't have that much more new tech in it. Low-res camera lenses are cheap, those screens are cheap, SD readers are cheap. It's a big waste of money unless you are super-excited about currently non-existant downloadable games or something.

[Bigfoot]

I thought the DSi had a new processor in it too?

[sgx]

I thought the DSi had a new processor in it too?

If it does, it's something to do with the cameras or mp3 decoding or something. Games aren't any different.

[Antipode]

For me, having a GBA slot is far more important and useful than all the new features of the DSi put together.
So, I'm waiting until it comes out, and then buying a DS Lite (when hopefully the prices will drop) to replace my Phat.

[Bigfoot]

Well, of course. :P Just saying that's probably adding a little bit to the cost of production.

The Nintendo rep at the DSi event last night mentioned about downloading Gameboy games(assuming advance too). Unless she was misinformed, that's awesome news. I mean, it'd make a lot of sense with them removing the GBA slot.

[Gollgagh]

I also like how you can press the power button(not holding it down) during a game, and it will go back to the main menu.

oh hey they're finally taking a cue from the PSP

[SpanishFly]

Y'know, the camera and potential online bit and extra features and whatever don't seem that appealing to me. I mean, I buy a system to play games on, not to like, take pictures with or surf the web or watch blu-ray dvds or something. Not trying to come off as bitter, but that's just my opinion.

[richter]

No :)

Like BluRay, it's not enough of an improvement to get me excited :(

[Toadofsky]

No :)

Like BluRay, it's not enough of an improvement to get me excited :(

You know, I read an article on IGN about Blu Ray vs. DVD as of right now, and honestly, I don't think I'll upgrade to it. Most of those features of going online for stuff seems a bit unnecessary, not too mention the load times for some Blu Ray players, and there's a good Toshiba DVD player that upscales your regular DVD's rather well.

Getting back to the topic on hand, I think I'll just wait on buying that DSi, see what they'll have on DS Ware. Hate to pass up that deal at Gamestop, that's actually a pretty good deal to trade in your DS Lite for a good 70 bucks (I sound like such an ad):tomatoface:. If they have old GB/GBA games to download, then that might be a good incentive, as long as they're not over-priced like they'll probably be.

I just can't shake the feeling they're going to have some better handheld in another year or two, but oh well.

Besides, I've gotta wait on buying that DSi to pay some bills, and my taxes...

Sigh...

[Zombie]

Well, of course. :P Just saying that's probably adding a little bit to the cost of production.

The Nintendo rep at the DSi event last night mentioned about downloading Gameboy games(assuming advance too). Unless she was misinformed, that's awesome news. I mean, it'd make a lot of sense with them removing the GBA slot.

If this turns out to be true, i'll definitely be getting one. Until then i hold off.

Do things like the r4 work on the ds?

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

You know, I read an article on IGN about Blu Ray vs. DVD as of right now, and honestly, I don't think I'll upgrade to it. Most of those features of going online for stuff seems a bit unnecessary, not too mention the load times for some Blu Ray players, and there's a good Toshiba DVD player that upscales your regular DVD's rather well.

Getting back to the topic on hand, I think I'll just wait on buying that DSi, see what they'll have on DS Ware. Hate to pass up that deal at Gamestop, that's actually a pretty good deal to trade in your DS Lite for a good 70 bucks (I sound like such an ad):tomatoface:. If they have old GB/GBA games to download, then that might be a good incentive, as long as they're not over-priced like they'll probably be.

I just can't shake the feeling they're going to have some better handheld in another year or two, but oh well.

Besides, I've gotta wait on buying that DSi to pay some bills, and my taxes...

Sigh...

I dunno, I'd probably pay 5 bucks each for the 3 Gameboy Zelda games since I only got a chance to own Link's Awakening(still my fav next to Majora's Mask).

I know this is probably false, but I don't think Nintendo really needs to bring out a new handheld to the market just yet. The DS has passed the 25 million mark already with no signs of stopping any time soon. Even more amazing is that games on the DS like The New Super Mario Bros. and Mario Kart DS are still selling new copies like hotcakes. I think the DS could last a few more years personally.

What I'd really like to see are more mature games, and by mature I don't mean something like Call of Duty or Gears of War or whatever. I mean games that deal with mature subject matter. Adult games like Heavy Rain, Indigo Prophecy. More games with darker stuff. Point and click adventure games akin to the Lucasarts stuff of old would be great.

[The Mutericator]

The DS has passed the 25 million mark already with no signs of stopping any time soon.

Uh.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/11/ds-sells-100-million-units-worldwide/

[The Pezman]

Do things like the r4 work on the ds?
No, but... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33q1y0UN4cA)

[Evilhead]

I wish they'd go back to the clicky buttons of the original DS. That's the one thing it had going for it. The DS lite's buttons and d-pad are okay but feel cheap and are too squishy.

[Bigfoot]

I wish they'd go back to the clicky buttons of the original DS. That's the one thing it had going for it. The DS lite's buttons and d-pad are okay but feel cheap and are too squishy.

Funny you mention this. I'm going back to using the 1st gen DS because the top screen on my DS Lite is really screwed up(lines threw it, and the screen is jumpy), and I can't agree more.

I haven't used this DS in so long. It's such a beast, lol.

[Drack]

I'm staying with my Lite.

It does everything I want it to, and I have other gadgets that do the DSi's stuff better.

[JCvgluvr]

The DSi is a textbook example of a ripoff. I'm not blowing my cash on a barely upgraded system that tacks on a useless camera and takes away my GBA slot.

I could get really ticked off about it if I obsess too much...

[Soma]

I had no interest in the DSi but there are rumors of being able to download GBA/GB/GBC games. A portable virtual console, that interests me very much as long as its not too expensive.

[The Mutericator]

The DSi is a textbook example of a ripoff. I'm not blowing my cash on a barely upgraded system that tacks on a useless camera and takes away my GBA slot.

I could get really ticked off about it if I obsess too much...

Yes, that makes perfect sense. It's a ripoff because it offers upgraded functionality for those of us to whom the DS Lite seemed like a ripoff, so it must be a ripoff too, right?

I still don't understand this obsession with the GBA slot. Move on, people! If you seriously can't, just buy a freaking used GBASP off eBay or something!

Of course, my interest in the SD slot is different from most people's - as a programmer, I'm interested in running homebrew code on it...

[JCvgluvr]

Yes, that makes perfect sense. It's a ripoff because it offers upgraded functionality for those of us to whom the DS Lite seemed like a ripoff, so it must be a ripoff too, right?

I still don't understand this obsession with the GBA slot. Move on, people! If you seriously can't, just buy a freaking used GBASP off eBay or something!

Of course, my interest in the SD slot is different from most people's - as a programmer, I'm interested in running homebrew code on it...

I guess our poor state of existence doesn't make to someone like you. He's right guys! We should just bring 2 different systems with us whenever we go on a trip. Hey, we could also encourage Nintendo's increasing slant towards pleasing the casual market while simultaneously neglecting the hardcore market that's supported them for years. Kill 2 birds with one stone! :<

[SpanishFly]

Yeah, my point's exactly. Of course...this brings up a whole other issue that all the kids around here seem to be graphic whores who care about their 100 gig 360 hard drives, or online content or Halo or whatever. Almost seems people are too focused on gimmicky stuff. Of course...not all gimmicky systems work, remember the NGage and the Gizmondo? :razz:

[herograw]

What's with the lack of mp3 support? Do people even use aac audio??

[AkumajoBelmont]

Meh, I'm extremely happy with my DSi... do not regret the purchase whatsoever. The screens are gorgeous, the sound is better (not HAVING to where headphones for games like Ouendan is a blessing), and the d-pad and buttons have improved exponentially over the other DS models. I don't regret my purchase at all. The DSi is awesome.

[cobaltstarfire]

You know if the DSi does allow downloads of older games, it doesn't even need the gba slot.

I'd get it, if I could afford it, and well also afford to buy downloadable games on it. It's the main reason I love my Wii, and would probably be a good reason to love a DSi.

[The Mutericator]

I guess our poor state of existence doesn't make to someone like you. He's right guys! We should just bring 2 different systems with us whenever we go on a trip.
Though it's funny you should make an appeal to being "poor" considering I just said I skipped out on the DSLite and saved that money instead.

That, and who really still plays GBA games all the time, alongside their DS games? If it's a short trip, just go without it (or, oh God, you might actually end up carrying an extra few ounces in your bag). Complaining about having to take two handhelds is a bullshit, whiny argument. If it means enough to you to be able to play both, then take both. If it doesn't, don't.

Hey, we could also encourage Nintendo's increasing slant towards pleasing the casual market while simultaneously neglecting the hardcore market that's supported them for years. Kill 2 birds with one stone! :<
I have no words for the stupidity of this statement.

(...)the d-pad and buttons have improved exponentially over the other DS models.(...)
Forgot to mention this earlier, but when I was using my coworker's DSi I noticed this too. Feels great.

[Native Jovian]

Not having a GBA slot is a legitimate complaint. Backwards compatibility is one of the Game Boy family's biggest draws (though the DS original/lite can't play original Game Boy or Game Boy Color games, right? So I guess if you care about those then you'd need to bring along another system anyway). It may not matter to you, but it certainly matters to some other people, and it's not unreasonable of them to be unhappy with a feature being removed from a supposed upgraded version of the hardware.

[Overflow]

Well, maybe I'm the only one, but whenever I play a GBC game or a GBA game, I almost always bust out the GBC or GBASP (The buttons on my GBA are shot from overuse), but I also usually take a couple GBA games with my DSlite (Namely FFVI and Mario VS DK). I still play my older games probably as much as my newer ones, so it pains me to say that they're old software/hardware, and we need to move on. Sure, I'm ripped about not being able to play GBA games on the DSi, but A) we can't get everything we want and B) there's only one or two game for the DS that use that slot.
And don't forget that Nintendo said: "The DSi is a supplement to the DSlite", as they said with all their systems. :<

[The Mutericator]

Not having a GBA slot is a legitimate complaint. Backwards compatibility is one of the Game Boy family's biggest draws (though the DS original/lite can't play original Game Boy or Game Boy Color games, right? So I guess if you care about those then you'd need to bring along another system anyway). It may not matter to you, but it certainly matters to some other people, and it's not unreasonable of them to be unhappy with a feature being removed from a supposed upgraded version of the hardware.

My complaint isn't so much that they're annoyed by its removal so much as that they want to act like it's some huge deal; if you play your GBA that much, why get rid of it? I still have my GBA and DS, and when I get a DSi I won't be getting rid of either. If I want to play a GBA game, I'll bust out either of them. I just don't understand how people seem so locked into the mentality of only keeping one handheld at a time.

I mean, I have no intention of just quitting playing my GBA games (I didn't put 60 hours into FFVA just to ignore its existence), but getting a DSi won't suddenly stop me from being able to play it. Of course, to each their own situation, but calling the DSi a "ripoff" just because one doesn't have any personal use for it is juvenile.

[OverCoat]

Yeah full backwards compatibility has never been the case with gameboys, it's always just the previous generation [GBA plays gameboy, DS plays GBA] until their late iterations of the hardware where it's no longer necessary

plus unless you keep losing your old gameboy it's likely that they aren't broken yet so just use the old gameboys :V

[Gollgagh]

Also I think something to note here is that people probably wouldn't be nearly so pissed if this was a completely new "DS 2" instead of a DS 1.5.2

[Toadofsky]

Hey, we could also encourage Nintendo's increasing slant towards pleasing the casual market while simultaneously neglecting the hardcore market that's supported them for years. Kill 2 birds with one stone! :<

Will people EVER get over this?

Honestly, what is the problem with trying to expand games into untapped regions (elderly people, women, etc.)? So what if they're simple games, or maybe not even games at all (Wii Fit), YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THEM, ever think of that? THERE ARE GAMES FOR THE CORE CROWD, you have to look closer at the games there. Yes, there's craploads of shovel ware on the Wii, but what system doesn't have at least some?

It's like games are some sort of "exclusive" club, or it's a geek's way of getting back at being snubbed by the preps/jocks. Every time I hear some gamer whine about casual games I groan. GAMES ARE A BUSINESS, AND WHAT DO BUSINESSES AIM TO DO? EXPAND AND MAKE MONEY. You can't expand something if you don't think outside the box.

The hardcore market? Please, I've heard that for years. The "hardcore" market is more concerned about how adult a game is (to prove their maturity maybe?), rather than how good it actually is half the time. Granted, that's not all of the hardcore market's mindset, but if that's your excuse of not liking Nintendo's direction, get over it. Go play a PSP, PS3, or a 360. If Nintendo went and just made a system with high powered graphics and a bunch of frivolous yet cool features, they'd be dead last, and you know it.

I hope Nintendo has something at E3 to shut this retarded, "It's cool to hate Nintendo" attitude up. Just as long as Cammy Dunaway doesn't act like a total loon again, maybe it's best she just doesn't talk to the E3 crowd...

Yes, I went WAY off topic, but I had to vent. Had to.

Sorry to offend if any...

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If it helps, the hardware component has actually improved since the DS Lite.

Old DS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_ds#Technical_specifications

DSi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DSi#Technical_specifications

Now, these specs sound crap, but I can see very much why they're doing this. I had (and still do) the DS browser for the DS lite (and it was specifically for the DS Lite), and the petty 4MB of RAM the DS had was useless for loading anything. I think the best site it loaded was the myspace mobile frontpage. The PSP had the same problem apparently, so its not a case of "the DS is crap".

The DSi has four times the amount of RAM, and while its still not much, I guaruntee you its a sight better than 4MB. Also, for those of you who like homebrew, I guaruntee you that the extra RAM will be useful for playing/making games.

The DSi isn't just a "1.5" version. Nintendo have actually tried to make it a kind of "upgrade", but I do recall that they didn't intend it to replace the DS lite. Some markets, right from the moment that the DSi was announced, said they'd be selling the DSi and the Lite at the same time.

I'll grant, the DSi isn't the ultimate handheld, but it does have some good points if you take a look. As to whether its worth the upgrade will be a matter of personal opinion and circumstance (eg, those with broken DSs, and no real need to play their old GBA games might buy it).

Will people EVER get over this?

Actually, even if the point made was grossly exaggerated, there is a point. There are very few truly "hardcore" games for the Wii or DS. ESPECIALLY IN AUSTRALIA. They exist, but their absence leads to an empty feeling when many of the "new release" games are "kiddman plays soccer"*

I'll agree, the "if you don't like it, don't play it" argument is more than valid, but it fails to solve the issue of the lack of hardcore games. Its like saying to a drought stricken country to use less water rather than complaining. Yes, they should use less water, but that won't make the drought disappear.

(*: If only their standards were that high half the time.)

[Bigfoot]

Another thing I love about the DSi is the exterior. No more glossy fingerprint mess.

[Arek the Absolute]

Does this thing at least come with a mp3-AAC converter? There is no reason to even use the damn music player if they don't at least give you a converter.

Also, any decent DSi games coming out soon?

[Gollgagh]

The DSi isn't just a "1.5" version. Nintendo have actually tried to make it a kind of "upgrade"


how does this make it not a "1.5" version

It's mostly the same thing that plays mostly the same games but has some extra stuff

[1337 1]

how does this make it not a "1.5" version

It's mostly the same thing that plays mostly the same games but has some extra stuff

I agree, but its not quite the same. Think of the difference between M$ Word and Publisher. Different programs for a different purpose. I suppose rather than it being a "1.5", it could be another version of the Lite. Its not as much an upgrade, as another option. It has advantages and disadvantages compared to the DSi

I suppose the whole idea that its "basically a 1.5" is why they're selling both at once.

Does this thing at least come with a mp3-AAC converter? There is no reason to even use the damn music player if they don't at least give you a converter.

Also, any decent DSi games coming out soon?

Try itunes. Though when I tried the converter, the AACs seemed to come out bigger than their MP3 versions. :|

No real DSi games, aside from the DSiWare. But no real titles confirmed outside of Japan yet, aside from the free browser. You DO get 1000 points with the DSi, so you'd assume that there's something coming.

[The Mutericator]

Try itunes. Though when I tried the converter, the AACs seemed to come out bigger than their MP3 versions. :|

It's a higher-quality compression. As in, it's bigger, but has better quality if you're transferring in from FLAC or straight recording. Converting from MP3 to AAC won't improve the quality, obviously.

I'm kind of annoyed they didn't at least include OGG Vorbis format, though. Maybe in a firmware update...

Also, thank you for approaching the topic so objectively. I didn't know about the RAM upgrade until you mentioned it.

[Bigfoot]

The web browser for the DSi is such an improvement over the DS browser that was sold in retail stores. That reminded me to search for this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzV1zsBSOA

[Toadofsky]

Actually, even if the point made was grossly exaggerated, there is a point. There are very few truly "hardcore" games for the Wii or DS. ESPECIALLY IN AUSTRALIA. They exist, but their absence leads to an empty feeling when many of the "new release" games are "kiddman plays soccer"*

I'll agree, the "if you don't like it, don't play it" argument is more than valid, but it fails to solve the issue of the lack of hardcore games. Its like saying to a drought stricken country to use less water rather than complaining. Yes, they should use less water, but that won't make the drought disappear.

(*: If only their standards were that high half the time.)

Point taken. Look, I'm just one of those people that just plays games. I don't care whether it's hardcore or not. That's not me dissing those gamers, but most of the ones I've run across/read from on destructoid, PLAY Magazine's reviews/editorials, or wherever keep complaining over and over about it.

What cracks me up is that they complained about no new sequel of (insert Nintendo game) coming. Yet, they forget that Nintendo takes up to at least 3 or 4 years to make said titles, so that they'll be up to par with the standards, that, and they're extremely secretive of new projects till they've got a good build of the game. Look at Zelda and Mario, those games only come around just every few years. I don't want a sequel every year ala Sonic/Activision games.

To me, I think Nintendo is just taking their sweet time getting those unassociated with games, into games. That's totally fine by me. They'll more than likely still cater to their fan base, probably just not as much, at least for now. In the meantime, I have a DSlite to tide me over.

Sorry to stay off topic.

By the by, BUY Henry Hatsworth, it's worth every penny. And I got it for only 15 bucks (had store credit), and got Metal Slug 7 at Best Buy for Half Price! (they sell games that are being discontinued at the store)

Anyways, continue the DSi thread...

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I heard from someone that the only DSi specific games would be downloads. I hope this is not true; can anyone confirm the existence of retail DSi exclusives?

About the supposed VC for the DSi: Which would you prefer, if you had to choose only one?
Being able to play VC games downloaded from the Wii Shop channel on your DSi, or being able to download GB, GBC and GBA game on the DSi Shop?
Personally, I'd take the downloadable game boy games.

[abg]

Being able to play VC games downloaded from the Wii Shop channel on your DSi, or being able to download GB, GBC and GBA game on the DSi Shop?

Both. (10char)

edit: Didn't see the "choose only one". Doesn't change my answer though..

[The Mutericator]

I heard from someone that the only DSi specific games would be downloads. I hope this is not true; can anyone confirm the existence of retail DSi exclusives?

About the supposed VC for the DSi: Which would you prefer, if you had to choose only one?
Being able to play VC games downloaded from the Wii Shop channel on your DSi, or being able to download GB, GBC and GBA game on the DSi Shop?
Personally, I'd take the downloadable game boy games.

http://kotaku.com/5184277/nintendo-plans-nintendo-dsi-enhanced-game-cards-with-dsi+only-features

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/25/gdc09-dsi-only-and-dsi-enhanced-cards-announced/

I'll take the DSi exclusives. Oddly enough, only the Joystiq article confirms DSi-only cards.

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I'll take the DSi exclusives. Oddly enough, only the Joystiq article confirms DSi-only cards.
This doesn't surprise me. Nintendo in all regions have been pretty tight lipped on specifics; very little information outside of Japan has been released AFAIK, and even then its pretty vague mostly. I'd guess they're still trying to test the waters atm.

[Gollgagh]

ugh

I seriously don't understand why they didn't just make it a DS 2 and be done with it

I don't like this "oh let's gradually upgrade our console's hardware for 10 years" bullshit. I only want to buy one damned thing that plays all of the games that are supposed to be for it. I don't want to buy a thing and have them stop supporting the first version because they thought it was a good idea to upgrade the hardware half-way through the system's life span.

I'm not even talking about the GBA backward-compat

[JCvgluvr]

So is today's Wii upgrade a confirmation of the stuff posted earlier in this topic?

[Bigfoot]

Also, if no one has heard yet, Nintendo will be making two different types of cartridges now for the DS/DSi.

One will work for the DS/DS Lite, but will have extra features if used on a DSi.

The other will just be strictly for the DSi.

[Overflow]

Also, if no one has heard yet, Nintendo will be making two different types of cartridges now for the DS/DSi.

One will work for the DS/DS Lite, but will have extra features if used on a DSi.

The other will just be strictly for the DSi.

Sweet.
See, this is how I see the DSi compared to the DS/lite: It's just lik the old Gameboys.
DS = Gameboy: First of a series, popular, but ugly.
DSLite = Gameboy Pocket: Exact same system, just smaller and prettier, plays the older games.
DSi = Gameboy Color: A very similar system, but with added features. It plays the older games (Some will have bonus content), but also plays newer games that won't work on the older system.

Actually, the similarities are striking. I predict the sales and lifespan of the DSi will further emulate the Gameboy Color, serving as a kind of buffer for a few years until the completely new system is released.

[SpanishFly]

Aww man, I don't like the fact that there'll be DSi only games. This would mean I'd have to go and pick up a DSi by trading in my DS Lite and some things for it.Though, I DO still have my GBA around but...I don't know, other people might be angry over that whole thing I think.

[Gollgagh]

Sweet.
See, this is how I see the DSi compared to the DS/lite: It's just lik the old Gameboys.
DS = Gameboy: First of a series, popular, but ugly.
DSLite = Gameboy Pocket: Exact same system, just smaller and prettier, plays the older games.
DSi = Gameboy Color: A very similar system, but with added features. It plays the older games (Some will have bonus content), but also plays newer games that won't work on the older system.

Okay, that's actually a pretty good way to look at it.

I may pick up a DSi for myself if they start making some awesome exclusives for it, but not until then.




(I just realized that my PSP is be able to play GBA games while the DSi won't http://remod.cakearmy.org/images/smilies/icon_ugly.gif)

[XZero]

I'll buy a DSi when DSi exclusives start releasing. My only real gaming anymore is on the DS, but I have absolutely no complaints about my DS Lite, and until I do, I have no desire to upgrade. As long as I can play Dragon Quest IX this year, I'll be satisfied.

[JCvgluvr]

The other will just be strictly for the DSi.

What?! 8-O

Fawkes: Now you went and GOT ME MAD!!!!

[XZero]

What?! 8-O

Fawkes: Now you went and GOT ME MAD!!!!


It's already been pointed out, but this is the GameBoy Color marketing all over again. I think I used by GBC for about 2 and a half years before getting the GBA (Dec. 98 - June 2001), so that may give us some indication of the anticipated lifespan of the DSi. But anyway, back to your point, I don't remember many GBC exclusives until a year or so after the system had been out, so you don't have to get the DSi for a while. Until we learn that some big title is a DSi download exclusive or something (I'm kind of worried about a possible Mega Man 10 being a DSi game instead of a Wii game).

[Bigfoot]

But Mega Man X is already out... :P