The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks [Archive]

BardicKnowledge

03-26-2009, 01:07 AM

New Legend of Zelda title announced: The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/25/gdc09-train-your-eyes-on-the-legend-of-zelda-spirit-tracks/)

Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65uKGGbOwTg

There's the actual new Zelda game video, coming out on DS. Link needs to get away from vehicles though -- walking's still cool! :p

Gollgagh

03-26-2009, 01:23 AM

Bongo Bill totally called it a month and a half ago

Zelda with a train. I have been saying this for years, and nobody has ever contradicted me: a Zelda game with a train in it.

I haven't bought a DS game since Megaman ZX, but I'm totally going to buy the shit out of this

DarkeSword

03-26-2009, 01:25 AM

Excited about this game. I loved Phantom Hourglass. Music in that trailer is hotness.

Hylian Lemon

03-26-2009, 01:44 AM

Music in that trailer is hotness.
Agreed. Though Phantom Hourglass's trailers also had hot music, and the game turned out to be a bit subpar in that department...

However, those trailermusics were just remixes. A lot of this sounds original. Hopefully a good sign?

The Author

03-26-2009, 01:46 AM

So... instead of Steam punk we have Steam fantasy?

I can dig it.

Doulifée

03-26-2009, 01:59 AM

Music in that trailer is hotness.

indeed.

also after boat, train. I want a plane after that.

Ninja-san

03-26-2009, 02:06 AM

Industrial revolution for Hyrule?

When is Nintendo gonna move away from Cel shaded Zelda?

03-26-2009, 02:13 AM

Why is link on a train?

DarkeSword

03-26-2009, 02:21 AM

Industrial revolution for Hyrule?

When is Nintendo gonna move away from Cel shaded Zelda?

?????????? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_Twilight_Princess)

FlagshipAmadeus

03-26-2009, 02:29 AM

That looks terrible but I'm sure it will be a great game and prove me wrong

XZero

03-26-2009, 02:34 AM

I just hope to God that I can use the d-pad to make Link walk in this one. I hated Phantom Hourglass for two reasons: the repetitive and overly-long dungeon that you had to keep going back to was annoying, and the touch-controlled walking annoyed the hell out of me (which, actually, is why I hated Dragon Ball Origins). If you're going to put it in, fine, but let the player decide whether he wantes to play every part of the game with the touch controls.

Gollgagh

03-26-2009, 02:40 AM

That looks mindblowingly awesome and I'm sure it will be a great game and prove me right

I think you meant this

03-26-2009, 02:44 AM

I seriously don't know why link is on a train.

My internet is too slow to watch the vid right now :[

Ninja-san

03-26-2009, 02:57 AM

?????????? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_Twilight_Princess)

Well yea but thats like 1/5 zelda games that came out since like 2002 that wasn't cel shaded.

Windwaker was pretty cool with cel shade but they haven't done anything to those graphics since and frankly i'm sick of "cutesy" Zelda games.

Hum4n After All

03-26-2009, 03:02 AM

Darklink42

03-26-2009, 03:23 AM

I don't know how I feel about this one. PH was really forgettable for me, because I played it through once, and it just seemed to end and that was it. I haven't ever had an interest in dusting it off and playing it again. I liked the boat, both because it was upgradable and because I never minded sailing places even in Wind Waker. But I didn't like that the story only picked up once or twice and then ended. The ending was good, the rest not so much. And now we're going to be on a train instead of a boat, and I'm not really seeing how that's not a gimmick.

Don't get me wrong, I love Zelda games to death and will probably buy and play the crap out of it when it comes out. But I'd like to play a Zelda game that didn't rely on putting in one or two gimmicks just to sell. Twilight Princess was pretty good for that. It gave me the adventure, let me roam around, and still retain it's Zelda type qualities. The newer handheld games just get a little to lost in making for a "fun time" and I think they tend to suffer for it. Even Minish Cap had those rock things, that while fun, could get rather tedious after awhile because you couldn't find the right damn piece.

DarkeSword

03-26-2009, 03:28 AM

Well yea but thats like 1/5 zelda games that came out since like 2002 that wasn't cel shaded.

Windwaker was pretty cool with cel shade but they haven't done anything to those graphics since and frankly i'm sick of "cutesy" Zelda games.

You play as a dude dressed in green with a floppy hat.

They're all cutesy.

Gollgagh

03-26-2009, 03:32 AM

bahahaha

Darke wins

JadeAuto

03-26-2009, 04:25 AM

Why is link on a train?

Link on a Train is like Snakes on a Plane.

"I'm tired of these M* Links on this M* train!"

Both hilarious to watch, but not worth the money... (imo - the only Celda done right was Wind Waker, for size of game. PH felt like a milk-the-cow game).

progressive

03-26-2009, 04:38 AM

I still get a kick out of the audience reactions when a new Zelda game is shown. Powerful stuff, huh? So, so many comments already logged about a game not 24 hours out of the box.

And if Link has to fight a snake on the train I will keep this game forever.

SLyGeN

03-26-2009, 04:40 AM

You play as a dude dressed in green with a floppy hat.

They're all cutesy.

Cel-shaded Link didn't fucking bodyslam a ram in the first few minutes of the game.

Prefer older link as well.

Battousai

03-26-2009, 04:41 AM

Having just beaten Phantom Hourglass, this game looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Swap a boat for a train and it's the same exact game. Same sound effects, same dungeon design, heck even some of the monsters are exactly the same, and I'm not talking octorocks or dodongos.

Oh well.

Toadofsky

03-26-2009, 04:41 AM

Industrial revolution for Hyrule?

When is Nintendo gonna move away from Cel shaded Zelda?

What's wrong with Cel Shaded Zelda? I think it was the best idea Nintendo had. Not only that, The Wind Waker had such a fresh new feel. And a good story to boot.

Not every game has to look realistic. Not to mention that it if was like that on the DS, it wouldn't be that good.

I'd actually prefer to have a Cel Shaded Zelda on console again.

You play as a dude dressed in green with a floppy hat.

They're all cutesy.

Thank you, anymore ownage tonight?

Battousai

03-26-2009, 04:43 AM

And to anyone whining about cel-shaded Link... maybe you didn't play any Zelda games before Ocarina of Time or something...?

http://analogmedium.com/blog/2007/04/ZELDA.gif
Yeah, real manly / not cartoony at all.

Toadofsky

03-26-2009, 05:03 AM

And to anyone whining about cel-shaded Link... maybe you didn't play any Zelda games before Ocarina of Time or something...?

EXACTLY. That's where I think alot of whiners chime in about all that. I honestly don't want them to keep a whole "Mature" realistic Zelda going all the time. They need to break free from that formula, shake things up like they did with Wind Waker.

Otherwise it'll be like Twilight Princess, with a bunch of moments that were pretty much like Ocarina. Don't get me wrong, TP had A LOT of great cutscenes, and great new characters like Midna, and, uh, the chicks that ran the fishing/boat shooting game (I botched that for sure).

Gollgagh

03-26-2009, 05:13 AM

TP was boring

03-26-2009, 05:20 AM

TP was boring
Word.http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5682/777c.png

Bigfoot

03-26-2009, 05:24 AM

TP got boring because it was a Zelda game that took 50 FREAKING HOURS TO BEAT, give or take. While it wasn't the best Zelda game in my opinion, I still enjoyed it.

Personally, I like the way you control Link on PH :P

relyanCe

03-26-2009, 05:45 AM

Link on a train is win.

Looks like i'm gonna be preordering another DS game.

Ajax

03-26-2009, 07:15 AM

I noticed they brought in the touch screen boomerang again. Incidentally enough, the only Zelda game boomerang that I have liked is the one in A Link to the Past. I certainly hope you get the bow in this one.

Additionally, I think that the cell shaded style is best for the DS, because it offers a good looking 3D engine for a system with low resolution, and a relatively weak processor.

Also, Link on a train seems pretty cool, as long as it isn't hyper-gimmicky (though with what Nintendo has been putting out recently, I get the creeping feeling that I should be bracing myself for disappointment).

Ho, hum, I'm still a Zelda fanboy, and will follow the franchise to it's prospective grave no matter what they do with it.

Antipode

03-26-2009, 08:08 AM

My favorite boomerang is from Oracle of Seasons. Launch it, and then control it around with the D-Pad! Cut down all the grass/bushes in just a few seconds, and hit enemies from around stuff! I honestly would prefer that to the stylus boomerang.

The Author

03-26-2009, 12:24 PM

Cel-shaded Link didn't fucking bodyslam a ram in the first few minutes of the game.

Prefer older link as well.

No, but at least in WW, Link was the one to give the finishing blow to Ganon. There was a lot of violence in WW that would probably not have worked in a more realistic style, including the last hit given in the final battle...

DarkeSword

03-26-2009, 01:11 PM

I like Link's conductor outfit. He's not wearing a floppy green hat.

Strike911

03-26-2009, 01:24 PM

Well, they had boats with engines in Phantom Hourglass, walking Mech cannons in Twilight Princess, and ... stone and wooden rails were used 1-2 thousand years ago with human and animal power pushing it, it's not that big of stretch for Nintendo to have engines adapted to land vehicles at this point...

... would be kind of cool if Nintendo was gearing up a gentle transition in time period to the series. I mean, I know it ain't happening because Nintendo refuses to solidify a real story with Zelda, but hey, at least the setting feels a little fresher than usual.

While I loved the sailing portions of Phantom Hourglass, many people I talked to said it was pretty much like being on rails, I can understand... but... haha... this new vehicle doesn't help that criticism... at all. lol.

Anyway, good times. I might pick it up. Phantom Hourglass was fun, but I don't know if it's worth my money on day 1. I'll think about it.

McVaffe

03-26-2009, 03:42 PM

What's wrong with Cel Shaded Zelda? I think it was the best idea Nintendo had. Not only that, The Wind Waker had such a fresh new feel. And a good story to boot.

Not every game has to look realistic. Not to mention that it if was like that on the DS, it wouldn't be that good.

I'd actually prefer to have a Cel Shaded Zelda on console again.

Thank you, anymore ownage tonight?

I think I'm one of the few that agrees with you 100%. Wind Waker had so much more charm and personality than Ocarina or even TP. The more realistic Zelda games look good, but to me invariably end up looking like pretty much every other pseudo-realistic fantasy game out there. Yaaaaawn...

Calpis

03-26-2009, 04:56 PM

After the last couple years of games, I'm becoming convinced that Nintendo needs fresh people to come up with game ideas. This Zelda kinda feels like "We need to make more use of the game engine we made for PH."

The new Punchout looks like fun, but that's it. I'm still dumbfounded at the idea and presentation of that new rock climbing game as well.

FlagshipAmadeus

03-26-2009, 05:23 PM

Now if they made another Majora's Mask sort of game with Twilight Princess sort of graphics, that would really be something....

Native Jovian

03-26-2009, 05:46 PM

I think I'm one of the few that agrees with you 100%. Wind Waker had so much more charm and personality than Ocarina or even TP. The more realistic Zelda games look good, but to me invariably end up looking like pretty much every other pseudo-realistic fantasy game out there. Yaaaaawn...
I'm down with you on this too. I loved the way that Wind Waker looked and felt. Contrary to what Flagship Amadeus is saying, I'd love to see a Majora's Mask sort of game with Wind Waker sort of graphics.

That said, I don't have a DS, so I can't play this new Train-Zelda thing. D'oh.

Arek the Absolute

03-26-2009, 08:28 PM

Cel-shaded Link didn't fucking bodyslam a ram in the first few minutes of the game.

Prefer older link as well.

No, instead he fucking does the most EPIC *and im not using the word like every other person, it actually was EPIC* finish to Ganon in Zelda history.

People don't give ww link credit.

OH HUR TP LINK CAN PUSH AWAY A BULL.

Oh yea, WELL I DID THIS BITCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXwHeAIXbjY&feature=related) *4:40-5:00*

You guys are so blah sometimes, seriously.

Anyway, I am very excited about this new ds one. Can't wait to see how this one turns out.

Aninymouse

03-26-2009, 08:56 PM

Bongo Bill totally called it a month and a half ago
Zelda with a train. I have been saying this for years, and nobody has ever contradicted me: a Zelda game with a train in it.

I haven't bought a DS game since Megaman ZX, but I'm totally going to buy the shit out of this

This.

This has the potential to be spectacular.

Tables

03-26-2009, 09:10 PM

If the train talks I'll be slightly annoyed. I really hope it doesn't talk. That is all.

Toadofsky

03-26-2009, 09:34 PM

This.

This has the potential to be spectacular.

If you look in the trailer, you can see Hyrule Castle coming around the hills.

For some reason, I just love that. Seeing something small as I get closer to it, finally realizing how big it really is.

Thanks for the agreement McVaffe.

Hylian Lemon

03-26-2009, 10:16 PM

For some reason, I get more interested every time I watch the trailer. My first reaction was somewhat "meh," but now I'm starting to really look forward to it.

And now I'm randomly wondering what kind of warping system they'll use. A train flying around in a tornado would be hilarious.

For some reason, I just love that. Seeing something small as I get closer to it, finally realizing how big it really is.
I'm with you there. Even just the mountains in the background. Aaahhh. Mountains.

And you just reminded me of snowboarding towards the distant Snowpeak Ruins in TP. That was quite possibly my favorite moment in the game. Seeing it so small and distant and then getting all excited as it got closer.

Bigfoot

03-26-2009, 10:25 PM

Whenever Link is riding the train, the song C'mon N' Ride It(the train) by Quad City DJs better start playing.

Doulifée

03-26-2009, 10:36 PM

And now I'm randomly wondering what kind of warping system they'll use. A train flying around in a tornado would be hilarious.

a tunnel linked to other discovered tunnel, or a Y or a magic warping door on the track...

BardicKnowledge

03-27-2009, 12:17 AM

I hope they offer a button-based control scheme this time around.

More importantly, I hope we can actually interact with the train in a meaningful way -- the boat in Hourglass sucked compared to sailing around in WW where you had full control of the thing.

Toadofsky

03-27-2009, 03:07 AM

a tunnel linked to other discovered tunnel, or a Y or a magic warping door on the track...

You're all wrong, everyone one of you, it'll be like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdJxx-aE08c&feature=related

as one brilliant scientist said...

"Roads? Where we going we don't need ROADS..."

Strike911

03-27-2009, 05:59 AM

If you look in the trailer, you can see Hyrule Castle coming around the hills. For some reason, I just love that. Seeing something small as I get closer to it, finally realizing how big it really is.

Yeah, I like that feeling too. I remember it most vividly from Ocarina of Time, the first time you see a castle in the horizon. :)

yangfeili

03-27-2009, 06:27 AM

You play as a dude dressed in green with a floppy hat.

They're all cutesy.

For the most part, although I think you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find much of anything cute in Zelda II. Except maybe some of the artwork in the manual, but even that's not really so much cute as it is standard late 80s anime-esque.

Now some of the artwork from the original Zelda (http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/jcgamer/45-hours-into-dq-viii/30-22833/)is pretty darned cute, and I think it would be kind of neat to see them do another big cel-shaded game, but with that art-style rather than another with WW football head.

So... instead of Steam punk we have Steam fantasy?

It's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uR8pcqV_HY) been (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxsgmJv-2c) done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNZ3J8nRHA). And quite well, I might add. (Well, okay, the third one was a bit wonky.)

Bigfoot

03-27-2009, 06:27 AM

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4325/spirittracks.jpg

http://www.castle-vidcons.com/

Ajax

03-27-2009, 07:32 AM

After reading this,

Cel-shaded Link didn't fucking bodyslam a ram in the first few minutes of the game.

And then this,

No, instead he fucking does the most EPIC *and im not using the word like every other person, it actually was EPIC* finish to Ganon in Zelda history.

I had the image of Link ramming Ganondorf with a train in order to finish him off... it was a fun little thought.

Well anyway, seeing as how these type of threads are for rampant speculation, I bet that the path of the train will be controlled with the touch screen, by drawing the path that the train will take, in an unabashedly similar way to PH. Which correlates with the title of spirit tracks, as it implies that the tracks are somewhat ethereal (maybe not the right word), and can be placed wherever you want.

And if they had a systen like that in place, it would be cool if you could warp by placing a magic warp tunnel in your path that would warp you from any point a to (hopefully) any point b. though what with the current tradition of Zelda warping mechanisms, I'm thinking that there would be a limited amount of point b's (train stations anyone?).

Sag Ee Mana

03-27-2009, 01:46 PM

Tchou tchou rocket... lalalalalala

Sorry :tomatoface:

Doulifée

03-27-2009, 02:00 PM

Tchou tchou rocket... lalalalalala

Sorry :tomatoface:

sors => tout de suite.

BlueMage

03-27-2009, 02:56 PM

It is to my shame to admit I have not played Phantom Hourglass .... though this gives me a great excuse to do so.

Sag Ee Mana

03-27-2009, 04:13 PM

It is to my shame to admit I have not played Phantom Hourglass .... though this gives me a great excuse to do so.

You're a Blue Mage, you can fix that easily :)

Thalzon

03-27-2009, 04:43 PM

You're a Blue Mage, you can fix that easily :)

Just get hit by someone who has played Phantom Hourglass?

Strike911

03-27-2009, 04:54 PM

Here's a synopsis of Phantom Hourglass:

OMG PIRATES. ship upgrades, ship upgrades, PIRATES, dungeon, dungeon. PIRATEs. The end.

See, now you're good to go with Spirit Tracks and you're not out 20 bucks.

03-27-2009, 10:23 PM

It is to my shame to admit I have not played Phantom Hourglass .... though this gives me a great excuse to do so.
Didn't Yahtzee say that PH was terrible?

Thalzon

03-27-2009, 10:40 PM

Didn't Yahtzee say that PH was terrible?

Yahtzee says lots of things.

Hylian Lemon

03-27-2009, 10:42 PM

Didn't Yahtzee say that PH was terrible?
Oh noes, everyone go reset your opinions now!

03-27-2009, 10:44 PM

I don't have an opinion for PH.

Other then it looks crappy.

Kenobio

03-27-2009, 11:48 PM

PH was a very good game--it just didn't reach the lofty expectations all Zelda games are typically expected to meet.

RealFolkBlues

03-28-2009, 12:08 AM

This really makes me want to get a DS.
I sorta have one because my brother tried to clean his DS with Lysol by spraying directly on the DS.
So uh yeah that happened so he got a new one.
Still turns on and plays games but the actual touch feature on the lower screen is fucked. Still has visual but just useless.
Is it possible Nintendo could fix it for me?

Hrrmmmm. That sounds kind of unlikely, but then again, the Big N's customer service is pretty spectacular. Part of why I'm such a fanboy, even now.

That having been said, I loved Phantom Hourglass and am looking forward to this one.

SwordBreaker

03-28-2009, 01:13 AM

Really looking forward to this one. Train sounds unique gameplay-wise...not to mention adding more "modern" technology to the Zelda series is long-overdue. Interested in how they will tie-in this game in terms of storyline.

Some of the new weapons in the trailer look really unique...very Minish Cap-like. Even though they're using the same game engine of Phantom Hourglass, the gameplay seems to be different enough.

PH is the best portable Zelda game I've ever played and it has added a lot of innovative concepts to the series' traditions because of touch-screen controls. Personally, I think it's better than Twilight Princess in some respects since PH nicely takes full advantage of its system while TP Wii was kind of frustrating to control with the exception of its minigames. Moreover, I'm one of those people who loved the Temple of the Ocean King due to its challenging difficulty.

Xenon Odyssey

03-28-2009, 04:17 AM

Toadofsky

03-28-2009, 04:30 AM

I never completed Phantom Hourglass because, like Yahtzee, the Temple of the Ocean King can go fuck itself. I'm not doing the same fucking puzzles each time I re-enter, while having unbeatable bad guys chase after my ass on a TIME LIMIT. I'm pretty sure it's the only Zelda I haven't completed (besides Zelda II), but it's the first I just refuse to complete.

In regards to Spirit Tracks, I'm going to get it whether it's up to par with the rest of the series (yay fanboy-ism), but I really hope it doesn't repeat everything I disliked about PH.

I'm sure Nintendo listened to the criticism, and hopefully took it into account. That wasn't why I didn't finish the game, the ice dungeon had some stupid timed event, and I couldn't get past it because I had to walk some tight rope, so I just said screw it.

I still like Phantom Hourglass though.

DarkeSword

03-28-2009, 04:54 AM

If you couldn't finish PH because of the Ocean King temple, you need to suck it up. It wasn't that hard, nor was it that tedious.

Kenobio

03-28-2009, 06:44 AM

Saying the Temple of the Ocean King wasn't tedious is like saying searching for all those Triforce pieces in Wind Waker wasn't tedious.

Battousai

03-28-2009, 07:33 AM

Except that every item you got in the various dungeons made it easier each time to get through the TotOK, plus you had the checkpoint to skip through the first 3 or 4 screens. Whereas NOTHING makes it easier to get to the places in the middle of the stupid ocean to pull up pieces of triforce. That comparison of yours blows.

Kenobio

03-28-2009, 08:10 AM

Well, I'm just comparing them in the sense that they gave me that same feeling of tedium, that's all. The items and check points (as well as warping via the Ballad of Gales in WW) did help quite a bit in terms of getting through the Temple of the Ocean King or dredging out the Triforce pieces, but overall I found both tasks fairly boring and tiresome compared to other dungeons or parts of these otherwise excellent games.

But going back on topic, Spirit Tracks looks pretty cool so far. I'm confident Nintendo will come up with some pretty innovative new ideas. Hmmmm, I wonder... will we see Link flying in the sky in some future game?

Native Jovian

03-28-2009, 04:49 PM

I never completed Phantom Hourglass because, like Yahtzee, the Temple of the Ocean King can go fuck itself.
I concur; Yahtzee can go fuck itself.

Honestly, I don't really see what the big deal about Link's mode of transportation is. Whether he's walking there or riding a horse or sailing a boat or driving a train, you have to spend time moving from one place to another, which can sometimes be dull but is required in order to, y'know, keep every single location in the game from being right next to each other. I actually sort of like the idea that seems to be behind the train; it basically drives itself while you do something else (like shooting at shit); it's certainly more entertaining than just having to ignore things and run away from them or stop going-toward-where-you-want-to-be in order to fight them like you do in other Zelda games.

Secret Agent Man

03-28-2009, 05:09 PM

DarkeSword

03-28-2009, 05:34 PM

What many people have an issue with is that the original Zelda wasn't "Legend of Zelda: The Recorder", "Zelda: Epona the Magic Horse", "Zelda: The Statues of the Owl", etc. It seems that Zelda games as of late are focusing too much on your mode of transportation, when in fact that's all they are.

As of late? Like what?

Minish Cap? The doesn't take you anywhere, it just shrinks you. Twilight Princess? You carry her around. Phantom Hourglass? That's not the name of your boat.

And no, the original Zelda wasn't "The Recorder" because it was the original Zelda. Who's going to put a subtitle on that?

And as for "Epona the Magic Horse," I assume you're talking about "Ocarina of Time," which, last I checked, was a mode of transportation.

The only two Zelda games that have used your mode of transportation in the title of the game were "Ocarina of Time" and "Wind Waker," and those items did a lot more than just get you from place to place.

"Zelda games of late" are not "focusing on your mode of transportation." So Link's not walking around an overworld on foot anymore. It's not like 3D Zelda games have been particularly groundbreaking in that respect. Running across Hyrule on foot in Ocarina of Time was just as boring as sailing across the ocean in Wind Waker. The only difference? You had to push your stick forward.

Phantom Hourglass's boating was fun. You set your course and let your boat go, while you can concentrate on killing enemies. It was a lot more elegant than trying to steer a boat while trying to fire a cannon at the same time.

Hylian Lemon

03-28-2009, 06:35 PM

It was a lot more elegant than trying to steer a boat while trying to fire a cannon at the same time.
More like stopping the boat to do anything. X_X

I agree; the automatic steering (as long as you have some control over where you're going) makes travel more interesting. More enemies can show up, since you're allowed to blast them on the move. TWW's overworld was really sparse, and when enemies did show up, it was annoying to momentarily stop and deal with them. Same with OoT. PH condensed things, threw in more random enemies, and allowed you to attack without interrupting your travel. And it looks like ST will be similar in that regard, so I'm happy about that.

LuketheXjesse

03-29-2009, 06:28 AM

Saying the Temple of the Ocean King wasn't tedious is like saying searching for all those Triforce pieces in Wind Waker wasn't tedious.

Because getting all those triforce pieces didn't have any fun puzzles or mazes and getting each one was the exact same process.

Right.

Kenobio

03-29-2009, 09:27 AM

because getting all those triforce pieces didn't have any fun puzzles or mazes and getting each one was the exact same process.

Right.

well, i'm just comparing them in the sense that they gave me that same feeling of tedium, that's all. ...but overall i found both tasks fairly boring and tiresome compared to other dungeons or parts of these otherwise excellent games.

?...........

Aninymouse

03-30-2009, 03:24 AM

Wintermute

03-30-2009, 04:54 AM

*shrug*
Looks like a solid game to me. Can't wait to pick it up.

People that go all fucking crazy over the train are hilarious to me. It's not like that's ALL there is in the game.

Gollgagh

03-30-2009, 04:55 AM

People that go all fucking crazy over the train are hilarious to me. It's not like that's ALL there is in the game.

hey

hey you

step off

Toadofsky

03-30-2009, 05:00 AM

I agree, both tasks were ultimately very annoying.

However, the temple was at least exciting/infuriating. The triforce hunt just felt... well, ho-hum. One of the few times anything in WW did, for that matter.

I'll be the first to admit that that's the only fault I had with that game. But then again, they said they had to cut two dungeons out to get the game to meet it's release date. Maybe if they had delayed it just a bit more, we could have had an even bigger better game.

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Sorry, had to put in a Seinfeld reference.:wink:

Overflow

03-30-2009, 05:14 AM

The Author

03-30-2009, 05:23 AM

And the unbeatable guys are beatable, eventually...

Doulifée

03-30-2009, 11:08 AM

SOOOOooooooo.... In other words, you're saying that a Zelda game, a NEW Zelda game, is hard. Hard, instead of easy, like many people accuse Zelda games of being lately.

Just had to point this out.

Hard? where did Xenon talk about difficulty? i played the game until i was forced to cross the donjon again (i think it was for the finla battle) it's not hard, it's just annoying to redo the same think all over again. Yes some item allow you to cross them faster but even with that it's annoying.

Xenon Odyssey

03-30-2009, 01:09 PM

Well, I'm sorry that everyone else whipped through the fucking place like a tornado and bitch-slapped the snot out of Bellum, but I won't apologize for my opinion.

And it's not like I said it was a terrible game; it's just that goddamn temple brings everything else down with it.

DarkeSword

03-30-2009, 01:22 PM

but I won't apologize for my opinion.

No.

No.

You will apologize right now. :whatevaa:

Say you're sorry.

SAY IT

The Damned

03-30-2009, 01:31 PM

I look at the title and think this is some sort of new remix album project.

Schwaltzvald

03-30-2009, 01:39 PM

No.

No.

You will apologize right now. :whatevaa:

Say you're sorry.

SAY IT

I fukkin loled hard :lol:

PH was good, hell if there was anything that was bad about it, it's having to yell through the mic like an asshole all the while riding the subway system during the early morning where everyone look wasted, suffering from hang overs or just still sleepy. The dungeon's (including the last one) had its moments and didn't bother me at all. Bellum was a rather fun fight.

Sag Ee Mana

03-30-2009, 02:52 PM

I really love this smiley :whatevaa: xD

But, guys, you may have found a place/dungeon/fight easier than other people, it won't change anything.
Sorry but I don't like when someone is stuck or having difficulties in a place and everyone comes to post after and says: "oh I managed ! It was easy for ME."

If I say that, it's because sometimes, reading some posts about that, I'm myself thinking "well I don't see where it's difficult". But I don't reply, because there's no need.

(/end of flame, I don't like that. Have a good day ^^)

Kenobio

03-30-2009, 03:39 PM

No.

No.

You will apologize right now. :whatevaa:

:sleepzzz:

same old, same old

Xenon Odyssey

03-30-2009, 05:20 PM

No.

No.

You will apologize right now. :whatevaa:

Say you're sorry.

SAY IT

NEVAR10charrrsss

DarkeSword

03-30-2009, 06:11 PM

I really love this smiley :whatevaa: xD

Me too.

Overflow

03-30-2009, 06:58 PM

Me too.

:whatevaa: It reminds me of blockhead.

LuketheXjesse

03-30-2009, 07:27 PM

http://www.theswain.com/Files/BH_QS2_Sample3.gif

Tables

04-03-2009, 02:21 AM

http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/comics/2009-04-01.jpg

Gollgagh

04-03-2009, 02:45 AM

hahaha I love it

BardicKnowledge

04-03-2009, 02:47 AM

That's amazing. We still don't have good vehicle (or horse, for that matter) based combat in a zelda game -- a train doesn't seem like a good place to start for that.

TheKrow

04-03-2009, 03:09 AM

I'm sure Nintendo listened to the criticism, and hopefully took it into account. That wasn't why I didn't finish the game, the ice dungeon had some stupid timed event, and I couldn't get past it because I had to walk some tight rope, so I just said screw it.

I still like Phantom Hourglass though.

Nintendo listening to criticism and taking it into account? LOL.

Bigfoot

04-03-2009, 03:11 AM

http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/comics/2009-04-01.jpg

Don't forget the alternate ending...

http://2pstart.com/images/2009/comic112altend.jpg

Kenobio

04-03-2009, 03:37 AM

hahahaha nice

VerSus22

04-03-2009, 04:38 AM

Excited about this game. I loved Phantom Hourglass. Music in that trailer is hotness.

I liked Phantom Hourglass as well, except for using the touch screen the whole time. I prefer using the d-pad. Oh well.

The trailer for Spirit Tracks is very interesting. Looking forward to the release of the game.