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prophetik
04-01-2009, 06:05 PM
edit: so before i was ninja edited, this was supposed to be a thread about what ps2 games i'd get.



ps2 games only (i'll play eboots on my psp for ps1 games). i own a great pc and a 360, so i don't want games that have appeared on anything microsoft.

i like:
-certain japanese rpgs and most american rpgs
-action/adventure games with interesting gameplay
-uniqueness of all kinds
-awesome stories
-excellent graphics
-likeable characters

i'm already getting chrono cross, ff10 and 12, and probably shadow of the colossus. i might get some of the GTA series. what else should i get?

i should point out that i'm getting these because i'm starting to collect different systems and the defining games for each console. i've got an original xbox, a psp, a 360, an n64, and now a ps2. i might get a gamecube at some point, but you get the picture. i would prefer games that are experiences, not just something to pass the time (aka, madden games).

edit:
so, lists.

will probably purchase from someone (sale/want thread ftw):
mgs 2 or 3

might purchase:
ico
disgaea

purchased:
kingdom hearts 1 and 2 (ebay, 18$)
ffx/ffxii (ebay, 30$)
ffx2 (ebay, 8$)
okami (gamespot, 16$)
shadow of the colossus (gamespot, $13.50 - black case!)
god of war 1 and 2 (gamespot, part of the buy 2 get 1 free deal...around 15$ considering that)

Penfold
04-01-2009, 06:34 PM
ps2 games only (i'll play eboots on my psp for ps1 games). i own a great pc and a 360, so i don't want games that have appeared on anything microsoft.

i like:
-certain japanese rpgs and most american rpgs
-action/adventure games with interesting gameplay
-uniqueness of all kinds
-awesome stories
-excellent graphics
-likeable characters

i'm already getting chrono cross, ff10 and 12, and probably shadow of the colossus. i might get some of the GTA series. what else should i get?

i should point out that i'm getting these because i'm starting to collect different systems and the defining games for each console. i've got an original xbox, a psp, a 360, an n64, and now a ps2. i might get a gamecube at some point, but you get the picture. i would prefer games that are experiences, not just something to pass the time (aka, madden games).

Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 perhaps? Maybe also Zone of the Enders 1 and 2, and Katamari Damacy. I'm sure there are other good suggestions that I'll think of later, so these are just off the top.

Kanthos
04-01-2009, 06:49 PM
Chrono Cross is PS1, not PS2.

The Disgaea series was good.

HoopyFrood
04-01-2009, 07:11 PM
I would recommend Persona 3 & 4 for good RPGs and maybe Okami if you like Zelda.
Also I second the recommendation of Katamari.

relyanCe
04-01-2009, 07:11 PM
GET SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS.

Seriously, it's probably one of the best games ever made for Ps2 ever.

Also, Zone of the Enders: 2nd Runner (NOT the first one) is pretty epic. Tales games (Legendia, especially, for good characters) are good, Kingdom Hearts is good, FFX f'sho, Devil May Cry 1 and 3 (skip 2), Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria for unique gameplay and interesting story (though playing VP: Lenneth first is strongly recommended).

Lot's of greats out there.

SpanishFly
04-01-2009, 07:14 PM
If you can hunt down Suikoden V, I'd recommend that. Some people would recommend the God of War or Devil May Cry series, but those might have been released on Xbox systems too (I have no idea about Xbox releases 90 something percent of the time). Star Ocean: Till The End of Time and Wild Arms 3 are supposed to be good, but even though I have both, I haven't played either too much since I've been focused on other games. Of course, if you don't have a Gamecube, Resident Evil 4 is worth a play, but...it's not for everyone in some way, lol.

HoopyFrood
04-01-2009, 07:19 PM
Devil May Cry 1 and 3 (skip 2)

Don't listen to him. 2 is actually pretty good as far as the game play goes.

SirChadlyOC
04-01-2009, 07:21 PM
I would actually argue against Disgaea because you have too much stuff going on in your life. As much as I love Disgaea, it is a huge timesink.

I do like a lot of the other recommendations, though. Also, God of War is another really popular action game, this time with lots of gratuitous violence.

Another random one: the PS2 does house the best collection of Dance Dance Revolution games. Yes, you feel silly at first, but it's a ton of fun once you get over it.

evktalo
04-01-2009, 07:33 PM
Okami. Ico should be must-get too.

--Eino

Ajax
04-01-2009, 08:03 PM
Katamari Damacy. Way fun.

Vivi22
04-01-2009, 08:06 PM
Ico should be must-get too.

--Eino

I was about to mention this. A lot of the other recommendations are great as well, but Ico is an absolute must if you can get your grubby little hands on it.

I'll also mention Way of the Samurai if you want something fun and unique. The combat takes some getting used to, but there's a lot of depth there. It also features multiple paths and a variety of different endings. Think of it as a choose your own adventure story with samurai.

LuketheXjesse
04-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Gotta agree with what relyanCe said about Zone of the Enders 2. That is one hell of a sleeper hit.
[Game Informer : Beyond Good and Evil] = [LuketheXjesse : Zone of the Enders 2]

BardicKnowledge
04-01-2009, 09:28 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss FFX-2 -- despite its cheesiness, the gameplay is fun as hell.

If you're into shmups, Gradius V is excellent also.

Meteo Xavier
04-01-2009, 09:30 PM
Isn't there a Sale/Want thread somewhere around here? :P

Anyway, just PS2 games? You know I've got a bunch of stuff I'm wanting out of my house that a PS2 will play and I don't mind making a deal with you since you helped me out consistantly over the last month or so.

prophetik
04-01-2009, 10:35 PM
Chrono Cross is PS1, not PS2.

The Disgaea series was good.

i know, but i like the visuals SO much...

ok, so MSG is a good call, and okami is one i want to play but i forgot. the enders games look interesting, i'd have to try them out. i'm not into the persona games. kingdom hearts and the GoW series are two IPs that i don't want to miss out on. i forgot about x2 also (i know it's short, but i liked the initial game so much. and it's cheap).

ico's one of those mixed-review games. i'd have to read some more about it as well. it's artsy, which is something i like. maybe disgaea. i don't like shmups, i'm horrid at them.

Thalzon
04-02-2009, 05:50 PM
Tales of the Abyss, Okami, Persona 3 and 4, Wild Arms 3, and maybe 4. Not 5 though. 5 was pretty bad. Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 and SMT Nocturne (good luck finding those), SotC, Ico, God of War (if you like action games), Beyond Good & Evil (if you haven't already played it on something else), Shadow Hearts Covenant and Shadow Hearts From the New World (my highest recommendations; these games are awesome).

Deathtank
04-02-2009, 06:15 PM
There lots of cool compilations like Capcom's Midway`s Taito's but I dont know if they are available for the psp, I recomend getting hot Shots golf fore! and Pinball Hall of fame The Williams Collection, to name a pair different.

Btw, watch my best shots on HSGF on youtube!!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xEJfmlZh58

EDIT: I think the Williams collection is available for the psp, still, get the golf game.

Darth Lime
04-02-2009, 06:19 PM
Katamari Damacy, Kingdom Hearts(1 and 2), God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Dragon Quest VIII, and The Mark of Kri.

Katamari for the sheer brilliance and quirkiness.

Kingdom Hearts for their stories.

God of War for the brutality.

SotC for its awesome battles.

Dragon Quest 8 for its intriguing story.

The Mark of Kri for its innovative combat system

My $0.02

The Coop
04-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Ace Combat 5 (Flying)
Ace Combat Zero (Flying)
Alien Hominid (Run 'N Gun)
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence (3D Action)
Contra: Shattered Soldier (Run 'N Gun)
Dragon Quest VIII (RPG)
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 1 (Fighting Compilation)
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 2 (Fighting Compilation)
Final Fantasy XII (RPG)
Gradius III&IV (Shmup Compilation)
Gradius V (Shmup)
Guilty Gear X2 (Fighting)
King Of Fighters XI (Fighting)
MegaMan Anniversary Collection (Action Platformer Compilation)
Metal Slug Anthology (Run 'N Gun Compilation)
Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum (Fighting)
Okami (3D Action)
Onimusha (Survival Horror)
Onimusha 2 (Survival Horror)
Onimusha 3 (Survival Horror)
R-Type Final (Shmup)
Raiden III (Shmup)
Rygar (3D Action)
Samurai Shodown Anthology (Fighting Compilation)
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 29: Monster World Complete Collection (Action RPG Compilation) *
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 30: Galaxy Force II Special Extended Edition (3D Shmup Compilation) *
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 33: Fantasy Zone Complete Collection (Shmup Compilation) *
Shadow of the Colossus (3D Action)
Shining Tears (Action RPG)
Silpheed: The Lost Planet (Shmup)
SkyGunner (Flying)
SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1(Compilation)
Soul Calibur III (Fighting)
Taito Legends 2 (Compilation)
Thunder Force VI (Shmup) *
Twisted Metal Black (Car Battler)
WipeOut Fusion (Battle Racing)

*= Japanese Import

prophetik
04-02-2009, 06:29 PM
shining tears...what kind of a game was that? action rpg can mean a lot of things.

The Coop
04-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Action RPG generally refers to games like Zelda, Beyond Oasis and Landstalker. In Shining Tears, you walk around various battle fields attacking enemies and bosses in real time with your sword and magic, and do it all in an isometric view perspective. However, you also upgrade your weapons, armor, stats, and so forth like you would in an RPG. There are a lot of story elements as well, with plenty of dialogue.

And when you consider that the game has something like eight endings depending on which partner you spend the most time playing the game with, it's got plenty of replay value to go with the 20-40 hours it takes to play through once.

Chavous
04-02-2009, 07:20 PM
I'm not sure if anyone's suggested it yet, but Tales from the Abyss is an amazing PS2 game. It's very much an RPG, but the battle system makes the entire game.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/talesoftheabyss/index.html

relyanCe
04-02-2009, 08:02 PM
I'm not sure if anyone's suggested it yet, but Tales from the Abyss is an amazing PS2 game. It's very much an RPG, but the battle system makes the entire game.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/talesoftheabyss/index.html

I'm actually playing through this right now, and so far:

PROS:
-Amazing addition to Tales combat system, really well-though-out.
-The overlimit gauge.
-Interesting plot elements.
-Luke's journal: I LOVE being able to put the game down for a while, come back, and know exactly where I left off.

CONS:
-Weak, stereotypical characters.
-Weak overall plot. Too much macguffin-chasing going on.
-Graphics are low-quality and poorly animated outside of combat, which is unacceptable for a game that came out toward the end of its generation.
-Soundtrack is nowhere near the standards I hold for Tales games.
-The overworld map is horrific.
-No voice-acting in skits... why the HELL are there no voices in the skits!?

Yeah, I listed more cons than pros, but it's still a great game overall, imo.

EDIT:

Kingdom Hearts for their stories.

No set of characters has ever endeared itself to me like the cast of KH.

SpanishFly
04-02-2009, 08:53 PM
I always thought of the Zelda games as adventure games. Like, when I think action-RPG, I think like dunno, I don't want to say Tales or Star Ocean style battles, but the only other example I can think of those is The Bouncer.

Triad Orion
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
I'd second most of Coop's recommendations, but I'd like to extend one further.

Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies. It's older and more primitive than AC5, but it's still fun to play. AC04 tells its story from a rather unique perspective and features likeable characters in a respectable, though not complex, way. If you can find it, it comes highly recommended from me and it is a pivotal tale for the entire AC mythos.

linkspast
04-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Shadow of the colossus was enjoyable.
also MGS for sure, as well as the FF games.

Tricklozen
04-02-2009, 09:26 PM
ffx? blabla whine bitch blabla drama--some good music
ffx2? less blabla more action faster battles--omg infinite dressup loop
ffxii? epic fail
shadow of the colossus? epic win--1,5 times replay value--once in a life time experience
kh and kh2? mostly epic win--Shimomura <3
god of war? controls for the lose when you fight some bosses and don't go for the handicap--but looks cool
god of war 2? still collecting dust (bought both gows at the same time, haven't finished the first, probably never will)
ico--epic win--once in a life time experience--two times replay value (first time exploring, second time gamefaqsed etc)

end brain dump

Arcana
04-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Wow I have a bunch of those games in my house collecting dust... Shin Megami Tensei: DDS, Shadow Hearts 1 & 2, and Suikoden V are among the games I own but pretty much haven't even opened. ><

I personally liked Suikoden III a lot though.

XZero
04-02-2009, 10:16 PM
Couple of personal favorites, though some of these have been recommended already:

Tales of the Abyss
Persona 4 (I didn't care for 3 much, but 4 was ridiculously addictive - 80 hours)
Kingdom Hearts I and II
Metal Gear Solid Triple Pack (1-3)
Dragon Quest VIII
Okami
GTA Vice City


If you like traditional J-RPGs (SNES-PS1 era), check out the Atelier Iris series, particularly 1 and 2.

Also, for a Zelda-style game (besides Okami), check out Beyond Good and Evil (this may have come out on the XBox, but I know it was definitely GCN and PS2 as well).

Native Jovian
04-02-2009, 10:46 PM
Seconding the Ace Combat series.

The Thing. Based on an old '80s horror movie. It's pretty much a survival horror game (though there is lots of shooting too), but the real brilliance is the way you interact with NPCs. Each NPC has a value for how much they trust you and how freaked out they are at the situation in addition to the their standard health bar, and if they get too afraid or they stop trusting you they may refuse to follow you anymore or they may outright attack you. Of course, they may also attack you if they turn out to be Things, too... It's pretty badass.

The Bouncer. Don't spend more than $5 on it, but if you can find it cheap at Gamestop or something it's worth playing. It's a weird combination of RPG and fighting game. Really short, but pretty fun.

anosou
04-02-2009, 10:58 PM
MAN you're late to the party. I should hit you for not buying it until now but I'll settle for giving you tons of advice instead. Also, stop writing like atmuh, it brings back memories!

All games you mentioned are hot games. Your "might" are the best of the bunch, that makes me sad. Here are the definite list of awesome experiences á la anso (i.e. mostly JRPG's) and some other stuff thrown in for great justice:

Gitaroo Man - because if you like music but don't play this someone should kill you.
Persona 3: FES / Persona 4 - the best RPG's of the PS2. If you don't like the high-school theme you should instead try:
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - it has monster collecting, strange cults and a whole heap of awesome.
Prince of Persia-trilogy - if you like a good action adventure these three games (re-issued together) are fantasticular.
Rogue Galaxy - This game has so much content it's silly, I love it but the style is an acquired taste for some.
Shadow Hearts-series - awesome. Hihgly stylized and unique JRPG's with an intelligent battle system, GREAT mood and soundtrack, good characters and a good story. If you only get one, get Covenant.
Star Ocean: Til The End of Time - has the best plot-twist in video game history, the most frenetic battle system and a truly amazing ammount of side-tracking (item creation, hidden treasures, unlockable extras, battle trophies, tons of dialogue). A gem.
Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria - see above but less sci-fi and more nordic mythology.

If you ever feel like you want more unique stuff that might not involve characters, an experience or you know.. what you like (we're talking shmups, quirky japanese shit and all kinds of awesome) just say when and I'll drop the bomb.

prophetik
04-03-2009, 12:04 AM
what, no caps? blah. i'm assuming you were talking about tricklozen, who i just ignored after he trashed games that i enjoyed.

rogue galaxy looks pretty cool. i tried star ocean 4 on 360, but the voice acting was so damn bad, and j-rpgs are tough on me when they're all anime all the time (not a big fan). gorgeous game, but i just couldn't stand any of the characters. i might go back and mute the voices and turn on captions. is SO:TTEOT the same way?

anosou
04-03-2009, 12:08 AM
what, no caps? blah. i'm assuming you were talking about tricklozen, who i just ignored after he trashed games that i enjoyed.

rogue galaxy looks pretty cool. i tried star ocean 4 on 360, but the voice acting was so damn bad, and j-rpgs are tough on me when they're all anime all the time (not a big fan). gorgeous game, but i just couldn't stand any of the characters. i might go back and mute the voices and turn on captions. is SO:TTEOT the same way?

I don't remember the voices actually because I generally ignore them. I'm guessing you wouldn't stand any of the characters (FUCKING HATER GO DIE, ANIMUH IS AWESOMEST!!) in this game either.. they're not deep. The story is great however and the sci-fi epic feel is always present with a pretty cool encyclopedia you can use to get info on like, anything. It's one of my favorite JRPG's anyway, I lurrrv the tri-ace.

Vivi22
04-03-2009, 12:24 PM
what, no caps? blah. i'm assuming you were talking about tricklozen, who i just ignored after he trashed games that i enjoyed.

Yeah, you'd do well to ignore him. Both GOW 1&2 were awesome, and FFXII is easily the best game the series has had since IX (and VI before that). There, I said it. He was right about Ico and SotC being awesome though.

prophetik
04-03-2009, 01:45 PM
i wasn't a fan of 9, all told. even though i stole my modernized mage from vivi. i don't know why...i just never got into it like i did the others.

Soul Splint
04-03-2009, 01:47 PM
Haven't seen a mention of Dark Cloud yet, a nice way to go for RPG fans. Dungeons can get a little repetitive but the weapon upgrade system was massive fun. I've heard the second installment is even better but never played it.

LuketheXjesse
04-03-2009, 02:24 PM
i wasn't a fan of 9, all told. even though i stole my modernized mage from vivi. i don't know why...i just never got into it like i did the others.

I hear this so, so, so much, and it makes me frown :sad:

42
04-03-2009, 02:54 PM
It comforts me to know that I would have been about the fifth person to recommend Okami.
Normally though, I'd recommend the Wii version (which Capcom has just put on sale (http://shop.capcom.com/store/capcomus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.98778800) btw) because the motion controls just seems to add another layer of authenticity to the experience. Still it is an incredible game regardless of console.

HoopyFrood
04-03-2009, 04:10 PM
I agree on Gitaroo Man and the Dark Cloud games (BTW The second is IMHO better if for no other reason than you get a customizable steam mech).

On another note, Is there any particular reason you aren't interested in the Persona games? I respect your opinion in any case and won't try to change your mind.

Schwaltzvald
04-03-2009, 05:00 PM
Is there any particular reason you aren't interested in the Persona games? I respect your opinion in any case and won't try to change your mind.

To a degree it has a heavy amount of Japanese culture to it, however it shouldn't be too much of an issue imo. I will say though between 3 and 4, 4 seems to have more dialogue; especially considering it's a mystery rather than "HOLY SHIT WE'RE DOOMED!!" scenario)

Still they're good titles once you get into them.

Monobrow
04-03-2009, 05:30 PM
Please if you haven't, play Silent Hill 2.

It may not be your true cup of tea (it's an acquired taste), but the story and the uniqueness of this game is more than enough to warrant trying to get into it... If you haven't played an SH game, play SH2, and if you haven't played SH2... You're missing out on one of the best games ever made, hands down :D

The soundtrack, story, and atmosphere is more than enough to warrant this.

TehDonut
04-03-2009, 06:25 PM
I lurrrv the tri-ace.

you don't love tri-ace until you got a sig like mine (credits to rely).

Am I the only one who liked Chaos Legion?

Suikoden III is probably the best one out of the ps2 games
the fifth one you should play only if you're a die hard fan of the series.

relyanCe
04-03-2009, 06:50 PM
Am I the only one who liked Chaos Legion?

Nah, there are a few of us out here. I'm surprised I forgot to mention it. On the whole I'd say the combat is the same as, but slightly deeper than DMC. Really short, though.

HoopyFrood
04-03-2009, 06:52 PM
Schwaltzvald, I was asking Mephisto. I guess that's more my fault for not saying that in the first place.:tomatoface::tomatoface:

Brycepops
04-03-2009, 07:07 PM
God Hand.

Do it.

Nao.

sgx
04-03-2009, 09:45 PM
Get Rock Band if you don't have any other systems that play it.

Arcana
04-04-2009, 07:13 AM
I agree on Gitaroo Man and the Dark Cloud games (BTW The second is IMHO better if for no other reason than you get a customizable steam mech).

I've always wanted to get Dark Cloud 2 (Dark Chronicle) because one of my favourite CDs ever is the Dark Chronicle Premium Arrange Album. How you can get some of the best arrangers of music in the industry (Black Mages, Noriyuki Iwadare, Motoi Sakuraba, Yoko Shimomira, Kenji Ito, and more) each to do tracks on a CD is amazing.

I know you've listed Final Fantasy X already as a game you picked up, but I'd probably recommend it first among the games that you should play. It's pretty representative of the PS2 generation RPGs and is one of the best games for the system.

prophetik
04-04-2009, 01:58 PM
To a degree it has a heavy amount of Japanese culture to it, however it shouldn't be too much of an issue imo. I will say though between 3 and 4, 4 seems to have more dialogue; especially considering it's a mystery rather than "HOLY SHIT WE'RE DOOMED!!" scenario)

Still they're good titles once you get into them.

i'm not into anime and japanese culture. that's why i'm not into the persona games. not to mention it disturbs me when someone holds a gun to their head and fires.

i own a 360, so if i was going to get rock band i'd get it for that.

i've already played every ff game in existence, but it's been a while. xii or x will likely be among the first games i play on the ps2, since i really enjoyed both.

i despise survival horror games. i hate feeling jumpy. i don't like movies like that either, really. and my wife hates the loud noises. i probably won't get any of the SH or RE games.

what's god hand?

Brycepops
04-04-2009, 02:23 PM
what's god hand?

The last game made by Clover Studio :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY90Jl-W6Bg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09RoRIezR-I

This game is fun as hell.

HoopyFrood
04-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Agreed. I'm just sorry I didn't think to suggest it.
BTW Mephisto, Persona 4 doesn't have the whole gun thing, but I understand the lack of interest and will leave it at that.
I also would like to say that if you don't mind the rather cliche story, Grandia 3 has a decently good battle system that you might like.

Airwalker
04-04-2009, 06:00 PM
I bought a PS2 simply because my DS got me addicted to Disgaea, and I just had to play Disgaea 2.

prophetik
04-04-2009, 11:34 PM
so, is kingdom hearts re the new game? i honestly haven't kept up on them. also, what's 'final mix'? the greatest hits version, or something?

Gollgagh
04-05-2009, 01:33 AM
so, is kingdom hearts re the new game? i honestly haven't kept up on them. also, what's 'final mix'? the greatest hits version, or something?

Re: Chain of Memories is KH 1.5

it's a remake of the GBA game



"Final Mix" means KH+ basically. It's the version the japs got after we got ours, I think.

Gollgagh
04-05-2009, 01:35 AM
I bought a PS2 simply because my DS got me addicted to Disgaea, and I just had to play Disgaea 2.

Holy crap, I've had Disgaea on my PSP for longer than the even the jap DS version has been out.

And I'm only just getting into it.

HideousBeing
04-05-2009, 03:38 AM
Rather than start a new thread I'll just post this in here. I'm having a hard time getting a good review on BattleFront II. Does anyone have this game and can concur its competitive value? (I am talking as a competitive online game). Or perhaps a better question: would it be a good substitute for a guy whose parents won't let him play "gun games" or, FPS's?

BardicKnowledge
04-05-2009, 04:56 AM
so, is kingdom hearts re the new game? i honestly haven't kept up on them. also, what's 'final mix'? the greatest hits version, or something?

Squeenix's PS2 games tend to have better versions in Japan. These are the "Final Mix" for Kingdom Hearts, or the "International Edition" for FFX and FFX-2.

FFX differences: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/197344/41079
FFX-2: not linked to avoid spoilers. You miss EPIC boss fights, and get a crappier music video.

Kingdom Hearts 2: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_KH2_and_KH2_Final_M ix

If your PS2 can play Japanese games, I HIGHLY advise that you get the international editions, as there's no good reason to avoid extra content. Especially in KH2's case, as KH2 Final Mix comes WITH Re: Chain of Memories on the disc. The standard FFX is also ridiculously easy if you get the super weapons -- the extra bosses would give them a purpose that's not instant-win.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that all of the "International" versions can be set to full English, both text and voice acting.

prophetik
04-05-2009, 02:46 PM
my console can't =( oh well. thanks for the info.

battlefront II was an awesome game, but i doubt anyone online still plays it. it's a buttload of fun, though. my roomie and i used to have a lot of fun going through and seeing what we could pull off. if you've got a buddy, it's a lot more fun, but even if you don't it's still enjoyable.

ThePianoPlayer
04-06-2009, 06:25 AM
No one has mentioned the Jack and Daxter series yet, which is a shame because. I think they are pretty fun. Candid the first one is geered toward younger players, the second two have more of a mild GTA style. But the game play is awsome and the voice acting is pretty good.

KyleJCrb
04-06-2009, 08:35 AM
Let me go through my collection and see here...

Not recommended:
-Mega Man X7: Not worth it. It's not good at all.
-SEGA Classics Collection: SEGA arcade classics, remade with new graphics and sound. Not really worthwhile except for the Virtua Racing remake (which is the only one that improves the original); all the rest are pretty forgettable.
-SEGA Genesis Collection: All of the games are available elsewhere or via emulation, so I can't really say to get this.
-Mega Man Anniversary Collection: Same as above.

Recommended if you like the genre/series:
-Mega Man X Collection: Another collection that could be emulated, but it does include Mega Man Battle & Chase.
-Mega Man X8: Not a bad return to form for the X series, this is worth picking up if you're a fan.
-Midway Arcade Treasures 3: I'm a big racing fan, so I personally love this collection (which includes San Francisco Rush: The Rock, Hydro Thunder, Rush 2049, Super Offroad, and Race Drivin', among other less notables). If you like arcade racers it might be worth tracking this down, if only for the Rush games and Hydro Thunder.
-Gran Turismo 4: As I said before, I'm a big fan of racing games, so I love the GT series. It's a pretty unforgiving simulation though, so it isn't something I would recommend unless you're a hardcore car guy or racing fan.
-Gran Turismo 3: Same thing.
-Tourist Trophy: Even more of a hardcore simulation than GT. In fact, they're practically the same game (by the same developers), just remove the cars and replace them with motorcycles. The controls are ridiculously unforgiving and 99% of the tracks are recycled from GT4.

Recommended:
Dragon Quest VIII: I watched Mae play through this game, and while I'd personally never play it because I loathe turn-based battle systems, the characters were great and the story was superb. Since you're an RPG fan I would highly suggest picking this up.
-Burnout 3 Takedown: HOLY CRAP awesome, ridiculous, over the top arcade racing carnage. I hear Burnout Revenge is better, but 3 is by no means not worth picking up. You'll have a blast.
Flatout 2: In much the same vein as Burnout, although not quite as good. I'd still suggest grabbing this one if you like Burnout, though. Ejecting drivers through their windshields never gets old.
X-Men Legends 2: Great Action RPG. Highly recommended, even if you're not really a fan of X-Men, the storyline and voice acting are great, and gameplay is quite fun.
-Gitaroo Man: Get this. You have no excuse.
-Parappa the Rapper 2: No excuse for not owning this, either. Brilliant game.

ZealPath
04-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Xenosaga I, II, and III.

The Xenosaga series has a fairly grand but cool story, very cool visuals, strategic and sometimes complicated combat (II in particular), and very long cutscenes. On the whole I'd say don't be fooled by the packaging, Xenosaga I looks somewhat anime-ish, but the rest shy away from that and go for more of a half realistic half artistic style.

In the end it might not have been as epic as it they wanted it to be (originally they planned to have it unfold over 6 games instead of 3), but it's definitely worth experiencing and playing through. Each of the games have their similarities and differences, and there are a fair amount of minigames, the minigame in III, Hakox, is particularly interesting, unique, and addictive.

Aside from that I think you have your bases covered, obviously you're going to have to run through FFX, FFX-2 (this is another one you have to make sure you don't get fooled by your first impression), FFXII, and Dragon Quest VIII is absolutely amazing if you grew up with the series (and most likely even if you didn't).

MojoHamster
04-06-2009, 02:18 PM
I realise I'm chiming this quite late into the thread, but I just wanted to ask.

What is it people think is so cool about the Tales of the Abyss battle system.

I loved Tales of Phantasia on the SNES, that battle system really blew my mind and it felt really good to play.

I was all excited about Tales of the Abyss since it has some of my favourite Japanese voice actors in it (yer, I got the undub). But the Battle system just seemed very quick and messy to me. Nothing satisfying about it.

Tales has consistently disappointed me compared with the SNES version tbh. Music, Gameplay, Story (Altho the wittyness in Phantasia may or may not have something to do with Dejap's translation)

Edit:-

I'm just gonna add on to that. Rogue Galaxy, the premise of the game, the voice acting and animation is awesome. Again for me it suffers from a horrendous battle system. In tougher areas your companions will act stupidly and require a ton of healing. And half the time you hit 1 hp so fast you barely know that it's happened. The game promised so much for me since it resembled the combat style of Bleach Blade Battlers 1 & 2 (great PS2 games but you need to be able to play imports and use GameFAQs guides to read menus) but also being inside an RPG.

RPG have to remember that, your battle system is the thing your players are likely to spend the largest amount of time using so it has to be the most important thing.

Brycepops
04-06-2009, 02:53 PM
I realise I'm chiming this quite late into the thread, but I just wanted to ask.

What is it people think is so cool about the Tales of the Abyss battle system.

I loved Tales of Phantasia on the SNES, that battle system really blew my mind and it felt really good to play.

I was all excited about Tales of the Abyss since it has some of my favourite Japanese voice actors in it (yer, I got the undub). But the Battle system just seemed very quick and messy to me. Nothing satisfying about it.

Tales has consistently disappointed me compared with the SNES version tbh. Music, Gameplay, Story (Altho the wittyness in Phantasia may or may not have something to do with Dejap's translation)



I was tempted RAAAAAAGE on you, but I decided not to. You put your standards WAY too damn high if you were "consistently disappointed."

relyanCe
04-06-2009, 04:01 PM
I was tempted RAAAAAAGE on you, but I decided not to. You put your standards WAY too damn high if you were "consistently disappointed."

thank you bryce for saying that so i wouldn't have to flame the crap out of him.

Native Jovian
04-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Xenosaga I, II, and III.
No.

Imagine buying a third of a game padded out to a full-game's length by adding in ridiculously, pointlessly long cutscenes (I'm talking like an hour or so) and ridiculously, pointlessly long dungeons (that are also ridiculously boring because they're completely linear and there's no sort of dialogue or story AT ALL except during the between-dungeon stupidly-long cutscenes). Now imagine that the game you just bought 1/3 of isn't particularly good to begin with.

That's Xenosaga Episode I. I have to be honest and say that I haven't played Episode II or III, but from what I hear, Episode II is worse in just about every regard, and while Episode III is supposedly better it's really not worth the trip. The analogy I've heard is that it's like eating a charred, burnt steak, and then a rotten, maggot-filled steak, for the privilege of eating an edible but ultimately mediocre steak. And paying full price for all three.

relyanCe
04-06-2009, 07:54 PM
omfg i can't believe i forgot Radiata Stories


One of the funnest rpgs i've ever played!! It lampoons basically everything about jrpgs (and tri-ace did it, so you know it owns) and the combat is enjoyable. It also has lots of replay value (I have yet to do half of the whole game and I'm at 45 hours).

Teknobunny
04-06-2009, 09:35 PM
i highly, HIGHLY recommend shadow of the colossus. its an experience that should not be missed.

prophetik
04-06-2009, 09:45 PM
xenosaga's too damn long, and i never heard anything good about it, honestly. not anything making me want to actually sit down and play the whole thing, at least.

radiata stories looks interesting, at least.

Teknobunny
04-06-2009, 09:50 PM
xenosaga's too damn long, and i never heard anything good about it, honestly. not anything making me want to actually sit down and play the whole thing, at least.

radiata stories looks interesting, at least.

agreed, xenosaga is a classic case of a game that doesn't live up to the hype. as far as old school jrpg's go this one is especially long with a story thats more nonsensical than most.

The Coop
04-06-2009, 10:14 PM
i highly, HIGHLY recommend shadow of the colossus. its an experience that should not be missed.

...

Am I seeing a ghost?

Teknobunny
04-06-2009, 10:16 PM
you might be =-)

AmazinJason
04-06-2009, 10:16 PM
-Gitaroo Man: Get this. You have no excuse.
Yes!
Although to be fair I must warn you:
The sanbone trio on masters play is just.... *shudders*

relyanCe
04-06-2009, 11:05 PM
radiata stories looks interesting, at least.

If you want to play an rpg with actually good jokes and laugh your way through every part of the story (well, almost), get it.

MojoHamster
04-06-2009, 11:14 PM
thank you bryce for saying that so i wouldn't have to flame the crap out of him.

Why the need to sound so superior at all?

Honestly I just haven't enjoyed any of the newer Tales battle systems as much as Tales of Phantasia. Same goes for the soundtrack. Should I be flamed because I feel this way?

Am I not in the right clicke? Do I need to caress some egos to post on this forum, do let me know wont you?

I think the fact that for the first Tales themed OCR Album half of it was dedicated to Tales of Phantasia tells you something about the quality of the music.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a hater, I'm not trying to be in some cool retro 'Phantasia r00lz the rest suck' clicke. I'm not actually 12.

Probably the single worst thing about the Tales of the Abyss battle system, aside the messy button spamming nature of it (It doesn't know if it's an action RPG or a Turn based one very well - and a good action RPG doesn't need load a battlefield for each fight), the worst thing is the load time especially post battle compared with the amount of time you spend fighting in many scenarios. It feels entirely grating when you want to grind a little exp out.

A lot of people hate on FF12 but you got a whole level full of enemies with no loading till you changed zone. In this respect Tales of the Abyss being a late PS2 title is really lagging behind the competition. Ok they might not have the same budget but they will by now know how to get the right juice out of the console.

Undoubtedly there is some ambition and individuality in the Tales battle system but I feel like they've lost focus and a lot of the playability of previous ones. For me fighting thru the battle arena level on Phantasia is something that just hasn't been touched in the Destiny games or anything else.

(PS For anyone wondering why those scenes where the character faces come up aren't voice acted. it's simply because they were not 'vocally' translated. If you obtain the Undub version you can hear them vocalized in Japanese - by what is often a better quality of voice actor anyway. Again have to praise FF12, it was probably one of the first English to Japanese voice acting translations that actually didn't suck. I loved FFX but I wanted to shoot Tidus by the end. In the Undub version Tidus is played by the same voice actor who voice Kurosaki Ichigo in Bleach. Much better!)

relyanCe
04-06-2009, 11:50 PM
No one's contesting the absolute brilliance of phantasia.

We just think you have nostalgia-based standards, which are retarded.

Tales of Legendia is superior in almost every way to Phantasia, including the soundtrack.



...though that's to be expected; the New Japan Philharmonic recorded the thing [insert omfg here].

Penfold
04-06-2009, 11:57 PM
Just wanted to say that because of this thread, I picked up Ico. Looking forward to getting my PS2 back so I can try it. :)

prophetik
04-07-2009, 12:04 AM
hosnap, the pr0n king returns to ocr! i know you've been at unmod.org, but i didn't know where you were besides that.

i'm kinda getting excited to buy all these games when i have cash, now.

HoopyFrood
04-07-2009, 12:05 AM
Tales of Legendia is superior in almost every way to Phantasia, including the soundtrack.
Wait Legendia what? You sure you didn't mean some other tales of game?

MojoHamster
04-07-2009, 12:24 AM
No one's contesting the absolute brilliance of phantasia.

We just think you have nostalgia-based standards, which are retarded.

Tales of Legendia is superior in almost every way to Phantasia, including the soundtrack.



...though that's to be expected; the New Japan Philharmonic recorded the thing [insert omfg here].

heh you're such a dick.

I assure you my standards are 'fun-based' and not nostalgia based. I played the game again recently and the fun was still there. A good game lasts. The fact that I also enjoy more modern games as well (though made by different people) kinda blows that very shallow assumption out of the water.

If you can't accept the matter of a difference in taste, then there's just no hope for you.

There isn't a logical science that dictates what is better when it comes to art (I dare to use the word art when referring to games), it's purely subjective.

You can hide behind a collective pro-noun to re-enforce your absurd argument all you wish.

(PS I'm not about preface everything I say with 'In My Opinion' that part is the bit you get to assume.)

(PPS Part of the reason OCR even exists is because people recognize that some brilliantly composed music was unfortunately released on very low quality sound systems. Appreciative of the quality and complexity of these arrangements, fans turned to modern technology to update and develop music they loved to try and give it the bigger audience it deserved. An orchestra doesn't make good music, a composer does. You lose. Thanks for playing. Winners Don't Use Drugs (except those made by American Pharmaceuticals that the government wants people to spend money on). Insert Coin(s).)

ZealPath
04-07-2009, 01:08 AM
Do people really hate Xenosaga that much? I'll be the first to admit it was nonsensical at more than one time in all 3 of the games but I still liked it :razz: .

All this love (and fiery passion!) for the Tales Series (only played Phantasia on an emulator briefly) has me wondering if I should be checking that out though.

KyleJCrb
04-07-2009, 01:11 AM
All this love (and fiery passion!) for the Tales Series (only played Phantasia on an emulator briefly) has me wondering if I should be checking that out though.

Yes, you should.

ZealPath
04-07-2009, 01:30 AM
and THEN I could appreciate Summoning of Spirits in all its glory, this could indeed be an idea!

/minihijack off

Gollgagh
04-07-2009, 01:37 AM
/someone doesn't know what / does

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 01:55 AM
don't /make fun of him he might /call you a dick

prophetik
04-07-2009, 02:05 AM
ah, shut up, guys.

/back on topic.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 02:12 AM
rofl. .

SirChadlyOC
04-07-2009, 05:10 AM
...a bunch of stuff nobody agrees with...

I may not agree with you, but I like your style, regardless. Please keep posting on these forums. Even if you piss me off.

Intelligent disagreements +1.

ON TOPIC: I haven't heard anybody say anything about Ratchet and Clank games. Totally great action games that are fun for all ages. Kinda like the LEGO series, but with guns. Awesome guns.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 06:29 AM
Intelligent disagreements +1.

let's not jump to conclusions now.

prophetik
04-07-2009, 01:35 PM
relyance, go away. seriously.

i've got some of the ratchet games for my psp, and they're pretty fun. any one game specifically that stands out?

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
04-07-2009, 01:38 PM
From what I've heard, all three are pretty solid on the PS2.

anosou
04-07-2009, 01:51 PM
relyance, go away. seriously.

i've got some of the ratchet games for my psp, and they're pretty fun. any one game specifically that stands out?

All solid, 2 being the best imo.
When you're at it, get the Jak and Daxter-games (at least the first one) and Sly Racoon (all three) for awesome non-J platforming.

Malaki-LEGEND.sys
04-07-2009, 02:29 PM
Man, the Playstation 2 had a very wide range of game genres. I should go back and start buying up stuff when I start getting cash flow.

Native Jovian
04-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Sly Racoon (all three) for awesome non-J platforming.
That's "Sly Cooper" in English. I've played the first one and it's pretty entertaining -- but beware of the fact that they have zero replay value. I replay games all the time and Sly Cooper has never done it for me for some reason. I've not touched it for years and then tossed it back in my PS2 for old times' sake and couldn't beat more than a level or so before my brain starts screaming "YOU'VE DONE THIS ALL BEFORE IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME WHY ARE YOU DOING IT AGAIN?". Pick it up in the <$10 bargain bin at Gamestop or something, but don't pay more than that.

Also, Psychonauts is awesome as fuck and there's a PS2 version. Pick it up if you didn't get it for Xbox.

anosou
04-07-2009, 03:50 PM
Man, the Playstation 2 had a very wide range of game genres. I should go back and start buying up stuff when I start getting cash flow.

Best. Idea. Ever. I've recently done the same ( http://soundscape.escariot.net/games/page11.html ) and it's awesome. Just gotta get a component cable so I can play some games in HIGH DEFINIIITIOOON!

That's "Sly Cooper" in English. I've played the first one and it's pretty entertaining -- but beware of the fact that they have zero replay value. I replay games all the time and Sly Cooper has never done it for me for some reason. I've not touched it for years and then tossed it back in my PS2 for old times' sake and couldn't beat more than a level or so before my brain starts screaming "YOU'VE DONE THIS ALL BEFORE IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME WHY ARE YOU DOING IT AGAIN?". Pick it up in the <$10 bargain bin at Gamestop or something, but don't pay more than that.

Also, Psychonauts is awesome as fuck and there's a PS2 version. Pick it up if you didn't get it for Xbox.

Probably, only played them once :) Psychonauts is glitchy and slow on the PS2, get the Xbox version and play it on your 360 instead.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 03:54 PM
Best. Idea. Ever. I've recently done the same ( http://soundscape.escariot.net/games/page11.html ) and it's awesome. Just gotta get a component cable so I can play some games in HIGH DEFINIIITIOOON!

I've been considering doing this, but i'm also wondering if it's really worth it. I mean, how hi-def can the PS2 actually get? Is it just a gimmick or does it actually work?

anosou
04-07-2009, 04:05 PM
I've been considering doing this, but i'm also wondering if it's really worth it. I mean, how hi-def can the PS2 actually get? Is it just a gimmick or does it actually work?

Some games support 480p instead of 480i. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Progressive_Scan_PS2_Games

Probably not complete (nor expansive) but some games make it worth it, Beyond Good & Evil comes to mind. Sadly it's less supported in PAL releases but that's only bad for me.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 04:41 PM
Some games support 480p instead of 480i. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Progressive_Scan_PS2_Games

Probably not complete (nor expansive) but some games make it worth it, Beyond Good & Evil comes to mind. Sadly it's less supported in PAL releases but that's only bad for me.

hmmm, interesting...

edit:

if you have a friend and the spare cash for a guncon or two, get the Time Crisis games. Yeah, aligning the guncon can be a chore, but it's loads of fun!

anosou
04-07-2009, 05:15 PM
hmmm, interesting...

edit:

if you have a friend and the spare cash for a guncon or two, get the Time Crisis games. Yeah, aligning the guncon can be a chore, but it's loads of fun!

I have no friends :(

Schwaltzvald
04-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Best. Idea. Ever. I've recently done the same ( http://soundscape.escariot.net/games/page11.html ) and it's awesome. Just gotta get a component cable so I can play some games in HIGH DEFINIIITIOOON!

I should try this as the the component cables I got for the PS3 also seem to work for the PS2, or so said the box it came with it...

Okami in hi-def... mmmmmmm

SirChadlyOC
04-07-2009, 05:56 PM
Okami in hi-def... mmmmmmm

Okami's gonna take you for a riiiide HD!!

anosou
04-07-2009, 05:58 PM
We need to nuke this thread and just start "Playstation 2"-thread. For serious.

Native Jovian
04-07-2009, 06:21 PM
We need to nuke this thread and just start "Playstation 2"-thread. For serious.
OKAY!

The next generation has been out for some time -- and we all know what that means by now. Time to hit the used game stores to pick up the gems we missed the first time around! It's always a lot harder to find games once they're more than a single generation out of date, so better to get while the getting's good.

So what are your favorite PS2 games? Cult classics that deserve to be fished out of the bargain bin? Got any questions about stuff you didn't buy before but are thinking about now?

Here's a question for you all. I recently stumbled across episodes .hack//legend of the twilight on YouTube and it made me remember how much the .hack anime amused me back in high school. But I never actually played any of the games. Are they worth picking up? Or is it a Xenosaga style "one game for the price of three" travesty of justice?

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 06:32 PM
Here's a question for you all. I recently stumbled across episodes .hack//legend of the twilight on YouTube and it made me remember how much the .hack anime amused me back in high school. But I never actually played any of the games. Are they worth picking up? Or is it a Xenosaga style "one game for the price of three" travesty of justice?

RUUUUUUUUUN!!!!

seriously, its FOUR episodes of xenosaga with even less differentiation and a pathetically aimless plot. Avoid it like the plague!!!!

Is Odin Sphere worth getting?

DarkeSword
04-07-2009, 06:53 PM
You don't need to make a new PS2 thread when there is already one active. :\

Native Jovian
04-07-2009, 07:11 PM
You don't need to make a new PS2 thread when there is already one active. :\
But Anso told me to. :puppyeyes:

seriously, its FOUR episodes of xenosaga with even less differentiation and a pathetically aimless plot.
But is the game any fun? A large part of the reason I hated Xenosaga was I couldn't stand the battle system. How is .hack's?

DarkeSword
04-07-2009, 07:12 PM
But Anso told me to. :puppyeyes:
Anso isn't a mod.

:whatevaa: :whatevaa: :whatevaa:

anosou
04-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Anso isn't a mod.

:whatevaa: :whatevaa: :whatevaa:

^ this.

Actually I meant we should just hijack this thread and renamed it. It seems it worked!

And yes, Odin Sphere is definitely worth getting but check some youtube videos so you realize it isn't an RPG you're buying.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 07:20 PM
But is the game any fun? A large part of the reason I hated Xenosaga was I couldn't stand the battle system. How is .hack's?

eh... I wasn't terribly impressed, but it was alright. Kinda traditional imo.

Native Jovian
04-07-2009, 07:29 PM
Actually I meant we should just hijack this thread and renamed it. It seems it worked!
I see how it is. Change your story after you betray my trust. Crafty Swedes... I'm keeping my eye on you from here on out!

TehDonut
04-07-2009, 07:35 PM
Is Odin Sphere worth getting?

Yeah, I liked it alot. So you will like it alot.

I really liked how they did the story and the music is friggin good.
Also like dhow the art style is all story book ish

drake7707
04-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Okami is definately worth checking out, it's one of the better platformers for the ps2 and has a nice soundtrack and an awesome graphic style :)

Gollgagh
04-07-2009, 08:55 PM
oh fuck how did I forget

Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy

If you think that telekinesis sounds awesome, get this fucking game as soon as possible



Also for Odin Sphere, play it on easy. There's no reason to play it on any higher difficulty than that unless you're a masochist.

relyanCe
04-07-2009, 09:13 PM
isn't Psi-Ops available for free at Fileplanet?

Schwaltzvald
04-07-2009, 09:34 PM
Okami is definately worth checking out, it's one of the better platformers for the ps2 and has a nice soundtrack and an awesome graphic style :)

Sad thing about it is that Mephisto who just got a PS2 won't even touch it with a ten foot pole...

Gollgagh
04-07-2009, 09:38 PM
isn't Psi-Ops available for free at Fileplanet?

is it?

well it's awesome either way

The Coop
04-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Sad thing about it is that Mephisto who just got a PS2 won't even touch it with a ten foot pole...

Maybe it raped his father and killed his mother.

prophetik
04-08-2009, 01:24 AM
Sad thing about it is that Mephisto who just got a PS2 won't even touch it with a ten foot pole...

now why would that be? i'm already arranging to buy it. i can deal with anime-styled games if they've got something else that catches me. i'm playing star ocean 4, for goodness sake.

DarkeSword
04-08-2009, 01:32 AM
Okami is great. Doesn't really have the typical anime style either; it looks more like old ink paintings.

prophetik
04-08-2009, 03:03 AM
that's what i've heard, and that's what has me excited for the game.

edit: just got kingdom hearts 1 and 2 for ps2 shipped for about 18 dollars on ebay as a package deal. hoo-yah!

Dhsu
04-08-2009, 07:11 AM
Those are definitely typical anime style...

anosou
04-08-2009, 12:38 PM
Those are definitely typical anime style...

^ this

I suggest checking out Flipnic btw. A charming little flipper simulator that takes the concept a bit further. Gottlieb collection and Williams collection are also good flipper simulator but you know, real tables.

prophetik
04-08-2009, 12:54 PM
Those are definitely typical anime style...

but they're disney characters. and i've seen the game, and enjoyed it.

for what it's worth, games that turned me off from the styling include games like Jeanne d'Arc, where it felt like i was watching a cartoon (ahem, anime) the whole time. kingdom hearts doesn't feel like that.

KyleJCrb
04-08-2009, 01:03 PM
Gottlieb collection and Williams collection are also good flipper simulator but you know, real tables.

Great music by vertexguy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertexguy) on those titles as well.

anosou
04-08-2009, 02:00 PM
Great music by vertexguy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertexguy) on those titles as well.

Nice, did NOT know. Williams collections is sadly not avaliable in Europe but Gottlieb was awesome, music-wise too.

DJ Mighty
04-08-2009, 02:55 PM
Shadow Hearts Covenant and Shadow Hearts From the New World (my highest recommendations; these games are awesome).

Agreed. Though i would play The first Shadow HEarts as well. Good game, and it will give you a good back story for Shadow Hearts Covenant. SH:C is prob one of my Fav RPGs for the PS2. Such great characters, story and emotion behind it. For me anyway. I recommend playing the first SH though, you will appreciate Covenant more.
Also, i think Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is a extremely under rated game. Yes its really short, but its meant to be played through like 4 or 5 times to get every ones back story and the fighting system is fun.

relyanCe
04-08-2009, 03:27 PM
that's what i've heard, and that's what has me excited for the game.

edit: just got kingdom hearts 1 and 2 for ps2 shipped for about 18 dollars on ebay as a package deal. hoo-yah!

:nicework::nicework:

+9000 for Prophet

anosou
04-08-2009, 03:50 PM
Also, i think Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is a extremely under rated game. Yes its really short, but its meant to be played through like 4 or 5 times to get every ones back story and the fighting system is fun.

My thoughts EXACTLY. I need to ignore school and judging and do some serious PS2 gaming in the near future :tomatoface:

prophetik
04-08-2009, 10:49 PM
if something goes through on ebay properly, i just got ffx, ffx-2, and ffxii (with the game guides for x and xii) for 35$ plus 6$ shipping. original editions, too, not greatest hits. ooh-HA! i love birthday money.

this is assuming that the ended auction that i spotted (without any bids) gets relisted with a BIN, like i asked the guy to. but i think he'll do it.

relyanCe
04-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Yeah so I picked up Odin Sphere a few days ago.

Music is awesome, art direction is gorgeous, narrative doesn't suck, and then...

wtf is up with the combat system? The controls are so clunky, and the slowdown is horrific. Is the slowdown just a part of the game or is my PS2 on drugs? Anyone out there who played it, is it just me or is the combat system just weird?

LuketheXjesse
04-09-2009, 03:54 PM
You know
Everyone talks about there being slowdown in that game, but I had none whatsoever.

Maybe because I was playing it on a PS3??

Gollgagh
04-09-2009, 03:58 PM
You know
Everyone talks about there being slowdown in that game, but I had none whatsoever.

Maybe because I was playing it on a PS3??

Not even when you were fighting the queen of the underworld?

fuck, I'll have to try this

LuketheXjesse
04-09-2009, 04:03 PM
There was very very slight slowdown with her. That's it.

Gollgagh
04-09-2009, 04:05 PM
Yeah, on my PS2 it slowed down to like .25 speed

I'll try it out later.

relyanCe
04-09-2009, 04:15 PM
arrrrgh people and their money and PS3s and crap.

Wait, I thought PS3's aren't backward compatible?

LuketheXjesse
04-09-2009, 04:16 PM
The newer ones aren't.

That's why I worked to get an older one.

Penfold
04-09-2009, 05:08 PM
The newer ones aren't.

That's why I worked to get an older one.

I'm still waiting for Sony to decide marketing the PS2 isn't lucrative anymore and makes the PS2 software emulation available on the newer, non-backward compatible PS3 models. It's just annoying to have my PS3 set up and Ico on my coffee table, but can't play I get my PS2 back this weekend.

relyanCe
04-09-2009, 06:00 PM
I'm still waiting for Sony to decide marketing the PS2 isn't lucrative anymore and makes the PS2 software emulation available on the newer, non-backward compatible PS3 models. It's just annoying to have my PS3 set up and Ico on my coffee table, but can't play I get my PS2 back this weekend.

The problem with this is that marketing the PS2 is actually still lucrative =/

prophetik
04-09-2009, 07:03 PM
that won't happen for a looooong time. that's why, if i ever get a ps3, i'm hacking it up and putting into a computer case with a ps2 in there as well. one drive for the 2, one for the 3.

i might even mod the top and stick a PSone in there just for the toploading awesomeness. won't even hook it up or anything.

anosou
04-09-2009, 11:17 PM
The problem with this is that marketing the PS2 is actually still lucrative =/

Thank god for that!

wintermadness
04-11-2009, 04:09 AM
I'm looking for some ps2 recommendations too.

I'm looking for rpgs or an adventure.
Few games I own to this genre:

Final Fantasy X/X-2/XII
Rogue Galaxy
Okami
ICO
SotC
Dragone Quest VIII
Haunting Ground
Silent Hill 2/3/4

Cheers guys ;)

prophetik
04-12-2009, 12:29 AM
just picked up shadow of the colossus and okami. man, i can't wait to dig into some of these!

anosou
04-12-2009, 12:32 AM
just picked up shadow of the colossus and okami. man, i can't wait to dig into some of these!

That's what I think every single day about every single game D:

Thin Crust
04-12-2009, 01:58 AM
Hey guys, just for the heck of it, I decided to pop in FFXII. I have 3 characters at lvl 75 and 3 characters at lvl 85. I decided to take on Bahamut just for fun. After a couple minutes, I got to the final boss. I buffed everybody with hastega, and put bravery on basch(zodiac spear). Then I switched to the tv. After less then a minute, the controler stopped rumbling. I switched back to the game thinking that my party leader must have died. Instead I found that I had beaten the game. Without touching the controller. I couldn't stop laughing.

prophetik
04-12-2009, 02:40 AM
man, gambits are so much fun.

prophetik
04-26-2009, 02:35 AM
picked up god of war 1 and 2 and mirror's edge (360) for 35$ as part of their buy 2 get 1 free deal. GoW 1 is a black case, too!

anosou
04-26-2009, 10:20 AM
picked up god of war 1 and 2 and mirror's edge (360) for 35$ as part of their buy 2 get 1 free deal. GoW 1 is a black case, too!

Good stuff. I should get the God of War games too! Mirror's Edge is short but highly enjoyable. It will be remembered fondly

Schwaltzvald
04-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Bought myself new copies of Gradius V, Fatal Frame II & III.

Just awesome :)!!

Vivi22
04-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Gradius V is sweet. Been searching for a copy of Fatal Frame 2 for years though and still haven't found it (haven't tried online mind you, but I may before too long).

Got Ace Combat 5 last week and it's been sucking up most of my game playing time. Christ I never knew aerial combat could be so damn fun before this game.

The Pezman
04-26-2009, 06:58 PM
BTW, I still have games to sell you but I can't do it til I get back to my house on May 17. Please be patient w. me.

prophetik
04-26-2009, 10:54 PM
Gradius V is sweet. Been searching for a copy of Fatal Frame 2 for years though and still haven't found it (haven't tried online mind you, but I may before too long).

Got Ace Combat 5 last week and it's been sucking up most of my game playing time. Christ I never knew aerial combat could be so damn fun before this game.

i've been looking at the ace combat games. although, honestly, i'd prefer to get them for 360 rather than ps2.

The Coop
04-26-2009, 11:03 PM
i've been looking at the ace combat games. although, honestly, i'd prefer to get them for 360 rather than ps2.

Is there something wrong with the first six games being on the PS1 and PS2?

prophetik
04-27-2009, 02:14 AM
urrgh....isn't ace 5 or 6 on 360? whoops, ignore me saying that.

The Coop
04-27-2009, 02:24 AM
urrgh....isn't ace 5 or 6 on 360? whoops, ignore me saying that.

:lol:

Ace Combats 1-3 are on the PS1. 4, 5 and Zero are on the PS2. Only 6 is on the 360 (thus far).

prophetik
04-27-2009, 04:29 AM
i just like the 360. graphics are a lot better for every game i've tried so far that's cross-platform with the ps2.

The Coop
04-27-2009, 04:41 AM
I would hope they'd look better. If they didn't, someone did something horribly wrong :lol:

But I really think you should check out the six games that came before the seventh 360 one... especially 2, 5 and 0 (my personal favorites). You'll miss out on some great stuff if you leave them behind because of the system they're on.

KyleJCrb
04-27-2009, 05:43 AM
5 has an amazing soundtrack, I know that much.

anosou
04-27-2009, 12:22 PM
Screw Ace Combat, the only awesome game abbreviated AC is Armored Core. They're all awesome!

Dj Mokram
04-27-2009, 01:02 PM
You'll miss out on some great stuff if you leave them behind because of the system they're on.
Reminds me I gave my ps2 with AC 4,5,0 to my little nephew, like you would leave a legacy in the hands of your descendants.
The devious child sold it to buy a DS with Diddy Kong Racing ...tragic, TRAGIC! :cry:

Vivi22
04-27-2009, 04:21 PM
Reminds me I gave my ps2 with AC 4,5,0 to my little nephew, like you would leave a legacy in the hands of your descendants.
The devious child sold it to buy a DS with Diddy Kong Racing ...tragic, TRAGIC! :cry:

Nephew or not, I would have made sure he saw his internal organs before he died by my hands.