Kirby's Adventure: Rise of the Star - History

[Hadyn]

By the way, that buzzing noise is a muted french horn i think. I'll possibly change it :)

Please do ^^

it's the only thing that strongly affects this mix in a negative way.

[Darangen]

I updated my WIP with a guitar instead of the piano. I'm wondering if it sounds too empty (minus the 2:00 part which I KNOW is empty ;)) or not when the melody comes around on the guitar. I'm wondering if I should add something there, or leave it as is.

What are your thoughts? Anyone?

[Hadyn]

I updated my WIP with a guitar instead of the piano. I'm wondering if it sounds too empty (minus the 2:00 part which I KNOW is empty ;)) or not when the melody comes around on the guitar. I'm wondering if I should add something there, or leave it as is.

What are your thoughts? Anyone?

It's much better than the piano, thought I agree it sounds a little empty in parts... I'm not sure what you could do to fix that, though. If you could be bothered, you could always add orchestral backing, but i'm not sure how well that would work, so yeah...

It works as is, though, and i still love it even despite emptiness in parts ^^

[Darangen]

I'd rather stay completely away from any type of orchestration on this. Why? Because there are already going to be orchestrated tracks, and as far as I know I'm the only guitar remixer on this project. So I plan on keeping it straight guitar.

I'm working on some clean lead ideas, just haven't solidified any yet. I hope that does the trick.

[Spotnick]

Good thing, Darangen. Yes, do so. But maybe add some more effects and more layers of music. Hot it up a bit, you know ;) Maybe you should do some parts that not follows the original melody that much, if you understand. Some parts that sticks out and also make the original melody more intresting, but I you're owning me on this kinds of remixes (all other kinds of remixes too, but we can hide that unnecessary parts for now :P) and I know you will do a great job. Keep it up! (...I think i'm repeating that too much now! :D)

[Hadyn]

I'd rather stay completely away from any type of orchestration on this. Why? Because there are already going to be orchestrated tracks, and as far as I know I'm the only guitar remixer on this project. So I plan on keeping it straight guitar.

I'm working on some clean lead ideas, just haven't solidified any yet. I hope that does the trick.

Yeah... I just listened again, realised that it would probably sound better without anything like that ^^

hmmmm.... Would it sound any good with some delay over the lead?

[MrBogus]

an idea I had for a possible cover design... or something? Enjoy :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/hadynlander/kirby2.jpg

~Hadyn

Very nice. Old school and contemporary at the same time. I think a good companion to it (on the opposite side, on the same folded piece of paper, facing the CD when closed) would be a mosaic using each of Kirby's powerups as tiles. I don't have Photoshop, but I'm thinking it should be run through an interpolation filter to remove the jaggies. The picture probably wouldn't be suitable as a cover for the back of the CD, due to the difficulty of overlaying the track titles.

On a side note, the management aspect of this project is simply fascinating. Props to DS for leading the project as well as coming up with the unique theme concept.

Lastly, good luck to all the remixers. Go forth and kick much ass. I know I won't be disappointed.

[Darangen]

I especially like the RE in front of the box with mix in it, really clever idea ;)

[DarkeSword]

KirbyMixer - 22/57 - Water Drop *
Darangen - 51/52 - Son of Wind *
Adhesive_Boy - 41/42 - L'il Traveller *
analoq - 16 or 32 - Star Herald -
Rellik - 55/37/22 - Swift Hunter *
Suzumebachi - 28/29 - Dream Hunter
Ellywu2 - 18/19 - Dream Warrior *
Trenthian - 1/2 - Star General *
Sir Nuts - 13 - Great Ace
DJ Ikronix - 14/15 - Final Star
mv - 56 - Hero of Lore -


People with stars next to their names are the people I have seen WIPs from. I'll ask that you guys each post your WIP again. I know that mv and analoq are working on their pieces, as I've talked to them, but as for Suzumebachi, DJ Ikronix, and Sir Nuts, I need to see something, otherwise you guys are out, and I'll have to figure out how to fill spots.

I'm setting the Final Arrangement Deadline for December 5, 2004.

I'll comment on posted WIPs soon enough; in the meantime, please post WHAT YOU HAVE SO FAR again.

[analoq]

hah, december 5th is "analoq day"
anyways, yeah i'm making progress on track 32.
i was working on it earlier today.
though it doesn't sound so much like "star herald" .. sounds more like "analoq" :?
ah whatever.

cheers.

[Rellik]

A repost of current WiP?

Sure:

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_The_Kirby_Album.mp3

[qortra]

but as for Suzumebachi, DJ Ikronix, and Sir Nuts, I need to see something, otherwise you guys are out, and I'll have to figure out how to fill spots.

I know it isn't any of my business, but I just wanted to point out that Suzumebachi technicially already submitted his WIP (On September 6th no less. I think he got the jump on everybody). His post is at the top of the following forum page: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42958&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=39. BTW, I think the first mirror is down; try the second.

For the record, it's pretty good (except for the drums, which I believe to be a poor choice both with respect to the rhythm and the kit).

Sorry to intrude.

qortra

[Darangen]

Updated my WIP: http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2622

[Hadyn]

ahh, a new background guitar. Sounds a little muffled, but I love the overall sound - so that makes it all okay :D

[Vilecat]

an idea I had for a possible cover design... or something? Enjoy :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/hadynlander/kirby2.jpg

~Hadyn

Very nice. Old school and contemporary at the same time. I think a good companion to it (on the opposite side, on the same folded piece of paper, facing the CD when closed) would be a mosaic using each of Kirby's powerups as tiles. I don't have Photoshop, but I'm thinking it should be run through an interpolation filter to remove the jaggies. The picture probably wouldn't be suitable as a cover for the back of the CD, due to the difficulty of overlaying the track titles.

On a side note, the management aspect of this project is simply fascinating. Props to DS for leading the project as well as coming up with the unique theme concept.

Lastly, good luck to all the remixers. Go forth and kick much ass. I know I won't be disappointed.
Aww, someone beat me up to it. I was working on a cover for the project, since there wasn't any real propositions until the time i started. I was thinking of putting many Kirbys with a different ability for each. I never thought Kirby could be that hard to draw (friggin arms). Oh well, i wont let that work become useless. At least i'll finish it and maybe show it to you guys ^_^;;;

Really nice cover idea there btw Hadyn <3

[DarkeSword]

I don't like the cover design. :|

[KWarp]

True, I thought that pic makes a great base idea (especially that text), but as a true cover it's somewhat lacking. DarkeSword, do you have any specific look you want the cover to display, or do you trust the individual judgement of the resident OCR Kirby fans?

EDIT: Does this project have an official title yet?

[KWarp]

Finally made one :) :

http://img121.exs.cx/img121/7225/KirbyRemixCoverKW.jpg

I kept it simple and adjustable. I'd like feedback on where I should go with this.

[Spotnick]

Naa, maybe a little to simple... Kriby isn't simple you know? :P Make the kirby Remixproject in same way as the original Kirby-logo. I know nearly how to do it, if you don't know how to...

[Hadyn]

I don't like the cover design. :|

Maybe I could do better if you actually knew what you wanted?

Besides, you of all people should know that if you're going to give criticism, it should atleast be constructive.

[Hadyn]

Finally made one :) :

http://img121.exs.cx/img121/7225/KirbyRemixCoverKW.jpg

I kept it simple and adjustable. I'd like feedback on where I should go with this.

Here's an idea! Don't steal from other peoples work - or, if you do, atleast make something good.

[Sir_NutS]

as for my WIP I think I showed you something not too long ago darkesword, yeah it was crappy and I'm starting over again but I think it shows that I'm still interested in the project. Right now I'm not having spare time to sit on my pc and mix something but hopefully I'll come up with something soon.

[genghisdani]

I just finished making this...
http://home.comcast.net/~genghisdani/kirbyremixproject.gif
Comments?

[Pixle]

Hi, I've been watching this project for a while. Kirby was one of my favorite childhood NES games, and it's nice that there's finally some excellent remixes being developed for the songs in this game.

Since I can't remix music worth crap, I figured that I might help the case by offering my artistic skills for an album design. This is just a sketch mind you, I didn't want to spend too much time on it if no one likes it. XD (I usually draw better than this)

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/8976/Kirby3.jpg

Edit: Changed the title on the image.

[DarkeSword]

Hey hey guys...hold up on the cover design. I want to worry about all of that AFTER the music is finished. :?

[SirRus]

Pixle, did you draw that by hand? That's awesome.

Shariq, I would like to contribute my sig picture for the cover design, kthx.

[Darangen]

Hi, I've been watching this project for a while. Kirby was one of my favorite childhood NES games, and it's nice that there's finally some excellent remixes being developed for the songs in this game.

Since I can't remix music worth crap, I figured that I might help the case by offering my artistic skills for an album design. This is just a sketch mind you, I didn't want to spend too much time on it if no one likes it. XD (I usually draw better than this)

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/8976/Kirby3.jpg

Edit: Changed the title on the image.

While it's definately good and creative, I don't think it will fit the album. If it was a techno tribute or something like that, I'd think it was perfect, but there are many different styles included here.

[Pixle]

Hey hey guys...hold up on the cover design. I want to worry about all of that AFTER the music is finished. :?

Woops sorry about that. I admit I just caught on everyone else posting albums ideas and needed and excuse to sketch something.

Pixle, did you draw that by hand? That's awesome.
Thank you, but it's just a sketch. (Also I'm actually using a wacom tablet as I was too lazy to scan stuff.)

While it's definately good and creative, I don't think it will fit the album. If it was a techno tribute or something like that, I'd think it was perfect, but there are many different styles included here.

That's true. I suppose it would be much better if there was a couple of characters from the game with various instruments.

...Now you make me want to draw Dedede with a Banjo. But I'll heed DarkeSword's word and return to my lurking. You guys continue with your work, I'm highly anticipating the songs that we haven't heard yet.

[KWarp]

Finally made one :) :

http://img121.exs.cx/img121/7225/KirbyRemixCoverKW.jpg

I kept it simple and adjustable. I'd like feedback on where I should go with this.

Here's an idea! Don't steal from other peoples work - or, if you do, atleast make something good.

I asked for suggestions, not criticism on a less-than-half-finished work. <(-_-)> I'll go sketch out something completely original at a later date when DS sets some requirements I suppose...

*goes back to lurking*

Take note: Good cover art can take multiple hours just like remixes can. A deadline of 2 weeks from the offical cover-art requirements is a must.

[DarkeSword]

And stopping all of this talk about cover art is a must, too.

Seriously. Lay off on the cover art. At this point int the project I don't even give a damn about the cover art. The title of the album has not even been decided yet, so designing anything is moot. I appreciate the effort, but I'm not interested in looking at art right now.

[Kirbymixer]

Uploading done!

I'm really, really sorry it took so terrible long. I had much trouble with uploading it, so I decided to upload it on my soundclick account, where I never have more than 2 mp3's, because I use it always temporary.
In my eyes it's done, but I'm as always open for comments, suggestions, and whatever.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixermusic.htm
(and look for Drops of Dreamland, the only mp3 on that page :wink: ).

[DarkeSword]

Here are my issues with it. There's way too much high register stuff going on. It's a bit ridiculous. Also, a lot of chromatic percussion.. There's too much xylophone and music box everywhere, and it never lets up at all. It's constantly going and going and going, and there are hardly any bass elements to balance that out. Saxophone sounds out of place as well. Also, you could cut out the entire middle section starting at 3:26 and going until 4:50, because alot of that doesn't even relate to the source material at all.

It's certainly not bad, but I think it needs major revision. :?

[Kirbymixer]

Also, you could cut out the entire middle section starting at 3:26 and going until 4:50, because alot of that doesn't even relate to the source material at all.

I'll work on your issues with it, but that quote is something where you aren't right.

3:26-3:38 is the intro for the part of 3:39 to 4:10
3:39-3:40 is the ending theme with difference in the lenght in notes, and one note removed
3:41-3:51 is original (you're right there)
3:52-4:10 is the ending theme, remixing the notes pattern which plays there
4:11-4:17 is a intro to what comes after 4:17
4:18-4:36 is a dramatic piano remix of track 22
4:37-4:50 is the intro of the gostly theme which comes next

but if these points aren't clearly for a listener, I'll cut it as well :(

[analoq]

so like, here's my 'final wip' for track 32.
it sounds very analoq?
still need to make a few tweaks but i'll entertain any comments.

http://apm.m2pc.com/stuff/analoq_kirby32fw.ogg [3.4m]

cheers.

[Rellik]

it sounds very analoq?

exceedingly so. your acoustic drums always sound so fresh... and of course there's the guitar and the synths and the electric piano and the catchy bassline... yeah, it sounds no less analoq than anything else ever created.

I like it alot! Although to my attention span it becomes sort of tedious towards the middle. Up to a point the changes really register with me, but then I kind of zone out, since even though there are some melodic changes and added synths and filtering stuff along the way, it retains the same stylistic background-ish feel without much variation until the guitar part. You do a good job of making lots of small little changes and mixing it all up over the period of the mix - in fact, you do a great job at this. But it just isn't enough to kind of substantiate the piece - it's great, but it doesn't have that certain (not necessarily obvious) narrative quality that distinguishes foreground music from background music.

I'm aware that that doesn't really count as a comment since I wasn't able to really explain well enough to help you understand what I mean at all, but I guess I'll just summarize by saying it makes really great background music and is done with an exceedingly slick touch.

[analoq]

thanks for the input. i agree with you regarding the 'background music' comment.
i generally don't want my remixes to have the kind of "in your face" attitude that many remixers attempt. (not that you were suggesting such)

i like to take the original down a notch... slow down the tempo... mellow-out the chord progression... give it a laid-back groove... and let things flow.

i agree it could've been done better, though.
cheers.

[Darangen]

I like it a lot, very laid back :).

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

My god Rellik, why the choir? The song is so awesome till that kicks in. But then again, this is an opinion.

[KWarp]

so like, here's my 'final wip' for track 32.
it sounds very analoq?
still need to make a few tweaks but i'll entertain any comments.

http://apm.m2pc.com/stuff/analoq_kirby32fw.ogg [3.4m]

cheers.

Dam. I was really hoping for some intense hyperactive goodness with that song. Despite my tastes, it's a neat song. I see the whole tune differently now, definately what a good remix should be. <(-'v'-)>

[Patrick Burns]

Fantastic! This project is really coming together. Is it just me, or do some of analoq's remixes sound right out of the Ocean's 11 soundtrack? Maybe it's just the funky bassline. Anyway.. this kirby fan is loving it.

[Hadyn]

It's not really important or anything, but the title of this topic has been out of date for almost a month now.

Other than that, I just want to say that all the mixes i've heard so far are pretty awesome.

Darangen - Absolutely rocking. I can't find much wrong about your mix - I love it ^^

Analoq - Another awesome piece, though I'd say that about any of your stuff. Sounds good. Makes me feel inspired to try mixing in that style ^^;

Rellik - it's different, but it's damn catchy. Looking forward to seeing more on this :)

Kirbymixer - Like DS said, there's a little too much high register stuff and almost no bass at all. Not only does that make it sound a little unbalanced, but it's like all the instruments are competing with eachother because they're in the same range, rather than complementing eachother as they should. Otherwise - excellent work :D

Ellywu - You already know what I think: it's perfect, but you must get rid of that horrible raspy instrument at 2:14-2:16 - it sounds so out of place, and just ruins the feel. Other than that, it's great so far :D

Adhesive boy - Just wanna hear more of it before I say anything.

Then I have an mp3 called "generalizedVegetal", which is also awesome, though I've no idea who did it.

Ohwell, can't wait to hear more of all of these :)

~Hadyn

[The Joker]

I believe Trenthian did "GeneralizedVegetal". I too have it, & it does indeed kick buttocks, classic style.

Keep on keeping on,
Joker

[Darangen]

Looking for last minute comments on my WIP. http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2622

Trying to finish it up for the deadline, mainly looking for what DarkeSword has to say about it, but other comments are wanted and appreciated as well. :)

[KWarp]

It's probably just me, but I feel like the melody blends with the other track layers a bit too much. Other than that, I find it very likable. Nice work.

[Rellik]

Ok... congratulations FL n00b Rellik.

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_Kirby...tacular.mp3

Yeah, yeah, it's not my best work ever or anything - but not everything can be. For one thing, I was cleaning up my hard drive to prepare for transfer to a new computer and accidentally deleted a bunch of the samples used in this song, so guess what, RETOOLED DRUM TRACK :D. And some changes and new stuff.

[Kaleb.G]

Deadline coming in two days. How's it going Shariq?

[DarkeSword]

Deadline is tomorrow, hopefully everyone can post their pieces by then. Might have to give an extension, but I'd rather not. Letsee the stuff people.

[Hadyn]

Ok... congratulations FL n00b Rellik.

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_Kirby...tacular.mp3

Yeah, yeah, it's not my best work ever or anything - but not everything can be. For one thing, I was cleaning up my hard drive to prepare for transfer to a new computer and accidentally deleted a bunch of the samples used in this song, so guess what, RETOOLED DRUM TRACK :D. And some changes and new stuff.

Awesome, though it's sadly a little short, and it doesn't feel like it reaches it's climax before it fades away ^^;

Still, you have awesome control over your drums and instruments - very well done :)

[Darangen]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2622

What I think is my final version, unless DarkeSword wants more revision on it.

I'll start commenting on others songs hopefully later today when I have a bit more time ;) I hope all goes well.

[Rellik]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2622

What I think is my final version, unless DarkeSword wants more revision on it.

I'll start commenting on others songs hopefully later today when I have a bit more time ;) I hope all goes well.

Catchy vibe! I would never have imagined this like this. The backing tracks here really make the mix - although the lead guitar is great and great and all, it would be nowhere without the excellent strumming and bass and sub-leads you have back there - you seem to really have this poprock style down! The drums are kind of boring, in my opinion, but the drums are not too important in this mix anyway. Overall, really impressive!

And thanks Hadyn - I'm getting a new computer within a few days (!!) so maybe I will be able to handle projects like that one better in the future, and be able to actually add new content even when the CPU is under strain.

[Corporal Eschebone]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2622

What I think is my final version, unless DarkeSword wants more revision on it.

I'll start commenting on others songs hopefully later today when I have a bit more time ;) I hope all goes well.

Wow, I came in here to see how much longer until this project is finished and I stumble across this awesome piece. Shitproximity of "piece" and "shit" unintended, you have some awesome guitar skills. If this is any indication of what's to come, then I can't wait until the whole thing is finished.


Edit: And it seems I came in here at just the right time for the deadline, eh?

[Darangen]

Ok... congratulations FL n00b Rellik.

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_Kirby...tacular.mp3

Yeah, yeah, it's not my best work ever or anything - but not everything can be. For one thing, I was cleaning up my hard drive to prepare for transfer to a new computer and accidentally deleted a bunch of the samples used in this song, so guess what, RETOOLED DRUM TRACK :D. And some changes and new stuff.

I like the beat :) Cool intro too. But the ending was kinda weak.. it just got into a cool part then faded out :(

[Darangen]

d0ubl3 p0st!

Anyways, listened to kirbymixers wip.

It's a bit long, and sounds like 3 different mixes pasted one after another :?

The ideas you have are cool, but I think you should focus more on fewer melody's. Don't get medleyitus.

[Kirbymixer]

please give me one more day to finish it :oops:

[DarkeSword]

Take your time. To paraphrase Shigeru Miyamoto, a bad mix is bad forever, but a delayed mix is eventually good.

[Kirbymixer]

Take your time. To paraphrase Shigeru Miyamoto,...

That's my hero :)

[DarkeSword]

I'm extending the deadline by two weeks guys. Please have your final arrangements done by December 19th. I think that's ample time to get stuff done.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Two weeks is more than enough time.

[ella guro]

Two weeks is great. I apologize for not updating stuff more, but I should be able to do this in two weeks. Make sure to update the thread title with that info, though, so I don't have surf through the thread to get the deadline.

EDIT: ...which you just did. Nevermind.

[Navi]

Take your time. To paraphrase Shigeru Miyamoto, a bad mix is bad forever, but a delayed mix is eventually good.

I might have to steal that. Thats a good quote.

[Kirbymixer]

We could post all songs on vgmix on chrismas :lol:

[Darangen]

Or not.

[Vilecat]

I can't wait for the project to be finished ^_^!!
I'm just here to encourage all the remixers working on it in this end of semester. Keep up the good work guys!! *cheers*

[Patrick Burns]

DarkeSword, could you give us a teenie weenie hint about what you're doing?

[DarkeSword]

DarkeSword, could you give us a teenie weenie hint about what you're doing?

I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing.

I'm writing a business report recommending a fictitious healthcare organization to migrate their network infrastructure from Microsoft Windows to a UNIX platform, because a recent hacker attack from a Brazilian hacker organization as brought to light the significant security holes in the network.

Look, I have a huge paper due tomorrow. I'm not going to post here if I have nothing significant to say. Final Arrangements for all mixers whose name is not DarkeSword are due on the 19th of December, 2004 AD, and people have known that since two weeks ago.

:|

[Hadyn]

DarkeSword, could you give us a teenie weenie hint about what you're doing?

I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing.

I'm writing a business report recommending a fictitious healthcare organization to migrate their network infrastructure from Microsoft Windows to a UNIX platform, because a recent hacker attack from a Brazilian hacker organization as brought to light the significant security holes in the network.

Look, I have a huge paper due tomorrow. I'm not going to post here if I have nothing significant to say. Final Arrangements for all mixers whose name is not DarkeSword are due on the 19th of December, 2004 AD, and people have known that since two weeks ago.

:|

I think he meant 'what song are you mixing (if any at all)?'

Could be wrong though. Ohwell, good luck with the paper!

[Kirbymixer]

Uploaded V2 ^___^! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixermusic.htm > Drops of Dreamland V2

Speedy comments would be VERY appreciated!

[DarkeSword]

Bas, please take out the saxophone and change it to something else. It simply does not fit. Also, please cut out the section from 3:26 from 4:50, and work on transitioning those parts together. A lot of that stuff in the middle sounds very empty and it's much too interpretive. Too much original stuff.

[ella guro]

Schoolwork + college applications + not feeling well = not having this one finished for awhile. I know I can make some progress on it once I have some serious time to and I'm really sorry for delaying this further, but right now those three things take priority.

[Daethar]

Ok, guys. All of your final arrangements are due today, or at least soon, from my spectator point of view.
I want to know what your plans are for the next step. Will you be organizing all of this at a separate site, or posting finals in the forum?
Basically, I, and likely many others, want to know where we can get the finished goods. I don't want to pressure, I am more than willing to wait for finished mixes instead of getting half-assed ones now. But, like the DOOM Remix guys, this thread has random song postings, WIPs, and I predict few actual finished ones. Unlike the DOOM Remix Project, the Kirby project looked and was expected to be done now (unless I am mistaken).
So, just keep in mind that us consumers still need some organized way to get these all.

And don't get me wrong, I appreciate very much all the work you guys are putting into this. Darkesword, this is looking to be great, and right here there's a couple people itching to hear the finished products.

[Darangen]

I'm taking down my WIP of the project for now, since 1) it's finished, and 2) I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be released until the project is completely finished and ready to launch.

DarkeSword, when you need it you can contact me and I'll get it to you.

To Daethar: I'm pretty sure DarkeSword has everything planned out and organized as far as what we're going to be doing next. I don't know when the remix's will be available, but I do know that they will be eventually. Just because the final arrangements are due doesn't mean the release is right around the corner. There is still some things that need to be done, some of which are artwork, a website, and people actually handing in their projects, and in the event that someone drops out last minute, replacements have to be found, etc.

I'm not trying to sound harsh or anything, and no hard feelings, but please be patient. In addition to all this, it's the holiday season which is going to eat up alot of everyones time. Patience is key, and I'm sure Darke isn't trying to delay the project at all.

If I'm wrong, Darke can clear it up :). Just trying to save him some time.

[Hadyn]

They'll worry about that after the mixes are finished - looks like a few people haven't finished yet... even with an extended deadline.

Darkesword needs to be nastier. He should jump up and down on the remixers backs, whipping them with flaming batons until they get their remixes done.

Actually, that's a lie. If anything he could be a little more supportive - it feels like team morale is down, and like remixing has become a chore for the mixers involved. A project leader should be constantly checking around, making sure everyone in the team is feeling good about what they're doing and encouraging them to continue, rather than just posting one or two blunt critiques every few weeks.

Then again, it may not be DS's fault at all - I'm guessing there's a fair bit of behind the scenes work going on for him. So then what's gone wrong? A lazy bunch of remixers?

They've had 2-3 months to actually work on their mixes, and some of them haven't shown us anything yet... I'm not sure how much stuff is going on away from this forum, but this isn't looking good.

Now, if only you'd put me on the project...

Jusssst messing :lol:

Well, good luck everyone with finishing up!

~Hadyn

[Darangen]

I'd have to pretty much disagree that it's DS's fault. I think he's doing a fine job.

Darke has a lot of things going on (as he mentioned about about papers and finals) and most of us can relate to that. As far as team morale being down, I think one of your guesses was right, a few lazy remixers that weren't too serious about actually participating.

But like I said before, it's the holidays, finals and semester exams were just before this, and it's probably a VERY busy time for almost everyone. Not that they didn't have several months to work on it, but as far as updates and all, I'm not surprised at the lack of activity in this thread.

Give us some time, eventually everything will smooth out.

[Hadyn]

haha, I know. ^^

For the most part, i was just rambling crap and exaggerating things to lead up to the 'Now, if only you'd put me on the project... '. A bad joke, really. I'm being strange today. sorry.

I have faith in DS, and most of the mixers, and I know this'll turn out fine in the end :)

~Hadyn

[Daethar]

Understood, Darangen.
Looking back, I realize I stated the obvious, as well as that a project manager likely doesn't want to hear some know-it-all telling him what he already knows.
As for your list of obstacles(?), it was more of the people handing in their projects I was focusing on, though I briefly forgot about the holidays (crazy).
Looking back, I probably should've been less antagonistic. Patience might be recommended, Darangen, but it is hard when it is this close!
Pair that with the misconception that final turn in indeed did mean the release was right around the corner...yeah that was my PoV.

So, apology to any workers I irritated.
No hard feelings taken, Darangen.

Keep on trucking.

[suzumebachi]

Track 28/29 - Dream Hunter Theme by Suzumebachi

OGG: http://kirby.herograw.com/FINAL/KAProj_DreamHunter-TheBalladOfSirKibbles.ogg
MP3: http://kirby.herograw.com/FINAL/KAProj_DreamHunter-TheBalladOfSirKibbles.mp3

choose your flavor. ok afk.

[Hadyn]

That's some damn tasty guitar and piano work. The synths are a little less brilliant, but overall this is an awesome piece. Great work :D

[Darangen]

Suz, I noticed some clipping throughout the mix. I took the mp3 and did some production to it to take out the clipping and bring it out a bit more.

Ballad of Sir Kibbles (Dar's Tweak) (http://www.wosaddict.com/members/Darangen/download/KAProj_DreamHunter-TheBalladOfSirKibbles(remastered).mp3)

If you don't like my work here, you can always go back and fix the clipping parts yourself, just trying to lend a hand.

To say what I thought, I *really* like that intro riff :) And the background synths are really cool too. I like it a lot :)

[Hadyn]

I never knew you could tweak EQ and all so much after a piece has been compressed to mp3... Nice job, it sounds better :)

Oh yeah, and those synths have really grown on me now. Great work suz, and nice fix dar :D

[suzumebachi]

yeah, these headphones have really high tolerance, so i don't hear clipping as much as i would otherwise. thanks darangen. :)

[Patrick Burns]

Bas, please take out the saxophone and change it to something else. It simply does not fit.

*outsider's opinion* I think a soprano sax would fit in nicely there.

[Vilecat]

Bas, please take out the saxophone and change it to something else. It simply does not fit.

*outsider's opinion* I think a soprano sax would fit in nicely there.
Or a oboe? I kinda agree that the sax sounds more or less appropriate.

I still can't wait for this project to be finished, it looks extremely promising :wink:

[Kirbymixer]

I gave up on the sax -__-;. I've tried litteraly each instrument that exists, but it helps nothing, and I still think (out of my minimal composing experience ^__^) the altosax is the best choice. I'm now working on a new part, hope to be able to upload it soon.

*EDIT* http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixermusic.htm there's V3

*EDIT 2*
I leave for one week in 4 houres, so please comment

[Spotnick]

I've got a feeling that it's quite dead on internet today, 'cause of the holidays and personally I'm not quite good on remixing, or mixing.

But I think you should make some upgrades with the bass, more powerful, and more epic feeling should be great in the overall but I don't know anything in detail.

Keep working and go for it... :)

[Kirbymixer]

Thanks for the comment :). I have no time more left to improve it anymore, till next week's sunday, so good luck everyone!

[Spotnick]

Bye, and have a good holiday, so see you in a week! :)


...Just wonder what's happening with the other remixes...

[Sir_NutS]

I am very sorry and I want to express my apologies to Darkesword and the team for not being able to offer my entry for this project. I tried different approaches to remixing it, and I think darkesword got some of that, but they weren't good or enough for this project. Now I think I've given up at it. Unless a friend of mine that I already contacted wants to help me with it on a collab, I think I could be counted out from the project (If I'm not out already, I haven't checked the thread for a good while).
So yeah sorry again, there's still a possibility I could make something but I don't want to give any expectations. Good luck to Darkesword and the team.

[suzumebachi]

how about an update :(

[Hadyn]

Even though i'm not really involved with the project, I second that.

[DarkeSword]

Apologies! I've been super busy with personal stuff lately.

I'm at work right now, so all my info is at home on my HD, but as it stands Suzumebachi, analoq, Darengan, and Rellik are finished. KirbyMixer and Trenthian are very close to done with their tracks, and I talked to Trenthian about picking up Final Star, while GrayLightning is going to grab Hero of Lore. I'll pick up the slack on Great Ace, and I need to talk to Ellywu and see where he stands on his mix.

I also need to start the Super Star bonus track.

Lets start talking about album names, while we're working on music. Whatchyou got?

I think 'The Adventurers' fits with the character theme idea. Any other suggestions?

[Hadyn]

I don't think "the adventurers" really works.

I mean, it's not about "adventurers" - it's about one adventurer, and how they grow from 'Water drop' to 'Super star' across their jorney.

That said, I think the title could maybe have something to do with the passage of time. "Chronicles" seems to be a popular word these days, why not work that in there?

Either that, or title it: "One Tough Cream Puff". Both work well, I think.

Hell, you could mix the two ideas together -

"Cream Puff Chronicles"

...

Yeah, that's my suggestion.

~Hadyn

[Darangen]

You already know my thoughts on "The Adventurers", :P

I don't really like the Cream Puff Chronicles either, or Cream Puff, or Chronicles...

And yeah, after saying I don't like any of the ideas, I don't have one of my own, LOL. I'll start thinking though, then you can tell me how bad my ideas are too :).

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Upgrading In Shades Of Pink

[analoq]

"Bulimic Anthems"

"Self-Induced Listening"

"Bleeeeaaaaarrrrrgghh!"

[Hadyn]

I don't really like the Cream Puff Chronicles either, or Cream Puff, or Chronicles...


I was joking :P

[Rellik]

Here are the names I can think of:

Pink Cup Headphones
Mouse Pen Inflation

Looking around the room isn't helping, so I'll just think, and see if that helps.

Poofball's Progress
Kirby's Divine Remix-omedy - hey that's a good one
Dancing Mad
Stars & Stripes Forever, Peach Coffee
Uncorragable Mimes - The Here and Now
PopStar Casa Nova
Unction Sing-along
Unction Junction
Kirbunction Junction
Kirbiferous Remixide Hexalbumium
The Kirby's Adventure Project thing

Canned Wobbly
Undermine that!
Reflake thy Mad

I'm out of ideas.

[Bundeslang]

The Power Of Dreams
The trip to the Dreams

[Mr. Bottle Rocket]

How to pink: the album.
Chronic pink ingestion
A hammerfull of penguin envy

[Kirbymixer]

what about "The pink-mixed devil: The Collab" :P

[Darangen]

I don't have a full idea, but I think something with the meaning of Evolution would be cool, seeing that Kirby is progressing from a Water Drop to a Hero of Lore.

hot or flop?

[Hadyn]

I don't have a full idea, but I think something with the meaning of Evolution would be cool, seeing that Kirby is progressing from a Water Drop to a Hero of Lore.

hot or flop?

hot.

Hell, even something plain like "Kirby: evolution" sounds cool ^^

[Darangen]

maybe...

Heroic Evolution?

[chthonic]

Celestial Evolution
Kirby's Adventure ReMix Project

I couldn't think of "Celestial" before. It's a much better word.

-chth

I beat you :wink:

I said that one on page 12 or something. I still think it's a good one. Considering how significant the stars are in the Kirby games, "Celestial" seems to fit perfectly. It rolls off the tongue, too. No, really. Say it.

So, there's my idea... again.

-chth

[The Joker]

How about,
Coming Of Age: A Warrior's Tale

That would be sweet. Kinda like a after school special, only cool & worth giving time to.

[Darangen]

How about,
Coming Of Age: A Warrior's Tale

That would be sweet. Kinda like a after school special, only cool & worth giving time to.

I don't like it.

[The Joker]

Yeah it was a semi-joke title. Seme-joke because if it was chosen I'd be all like, "I came up wit dat."

[Hadyn]

Celestial Evolution
Kirby's Adventure ReMix Project

I couldn't think of "Celestial" before. It's a much better word.

-chth

I beat you :wink:

I said that one on page 12 or something. I still think it's a good one. Considering how significant the stars are in the Kirby games, "Celestial" seems to fit perfectly. It rolls off the tongue, too. No, really. Say it.

So, there's my idea... again.

-chth

Now whilst the words celestial and evolution individually have meaning that directly relates to kirby, together their meaning would be something like "The gradual process in which the sky/Heaven changes into a different and usually more complex or better form". Which makes no sense at all...

In other words, it sounds cool, but really has no meaning :S

[KWarp]

Hmm, well think about it logically.

Kirby starts out as a Water Drop, he becomes a Hero of Lore. Often, heroes of lore are immortalized as stars in the sky.

When looked at literally, we can say Kirby's a water drop ascending to the heavens.

Words that come to mind are:
Evolution
Evaportation
Celestial
Ascend
Honor
Starlight
Sea
Sky

Next we need to apply this theme to both Kirby and music.

Sadly, this still doesn't bring a decent title out.
*goes into deep thought*
For some reason I can't get the title "Star Ocean" out of my head.

-Kirby's Celestial Conquest?
That makes him seem like the bad guy. <(>_>)>
-Kirby's Celestial Concord
-Kirby's Celestial Chorus
-Kirby's Celestial Concert
I'm getting closer... argh

[Hadyn]

I thought of a really original idea...

"Kirby in concert"

:P

But seriously, maybe you can steal ideas from how other projects have been named?

[DarkeSword]

I thought of a really original idea...

"Kirby in concert"

:P

But seriously, maybe you can steal ideas from how other projects have been named?

No.

[Txai]

I have 10 suggestions.

1.Kirby Arrangement

2.Super Kirby Arrangement

3.Kirby HeadPhone

4.Kirby Music Arrangement

5.Sonorous Kirby

6.Yatta Kirby Arrangement

7.Super Yatta Kirby Arrangement

8.Kirby Music Adventure (My favourite suggestion)

9.Pink Kirby Arrangement

10.Super Kirby Music Adventure

[Demko]

Kirby Music Adventure

Hmmm...good suggestion.

[Hadyn]

I thought of a really original idea...

"Kirby in concert"

:P

But seriously, maybe you can steal ideas from how other projects have been named?

No.

Well, atleast we know now that you're still alive.

[genghisdani]

k, I'm just gonna chime in here, first off, I think that "Evolution" is a good start, although I'm not sure about "Celestial Evolution", but we're working on it, I understand.

Anyway, secondly, a name that just came to mind, I'm sure it sucks, but how's "A Night of Dreams"?

Maybe I've just been reading too much shakespeare lately.

Also, once we have a name, I have a great idea for a cover, but I won't reveal it until we have a guaranteed name.

[Hadyn]

Hmmmm... You could have something like "Kirby reinterpreted: A collection of dreams"... or you know, something like that

[Darangen]

Kirbylution?

[DarkeSword]

Kirbylution?

HAHA. That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. A play on words.

How about, 'Darwin's Theory of Kirbylution.'

XD

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

How about "We Need a Kirbylution"

[Darangen]

Kirbylution?

HAHA. That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. A play on words.

How about, 'Darwin's Theory of Kirbylution.'

XD

DarkeSword's Theory of Kirbylution?

[Hadyn]

I like it.

[DarkeSword]

I'd rather not have my own nick in there. :(

Plus Darwin alludes to evolution.

Thoughts?

[Liontamer]

Just pointing out that all these suggestions so far are lame.

[Navi]

Minuet in Pink
Bubblegum Pop
Pretty in Pink

[DarkeSword]

Just pointing out that all these suggestions so far are lame.

Then help me think of one, punkass.

[jordex]

Kirby Poetry?

Poetic Kinetic Kirby

Kirby Derby (thats the only word that rhymes with kirby)

I'm just throwing those word magnets at the fridge, considering whatever shows up

i cant wait til the album is posted

[ProjectSpam]

Hmm...

Kirby Forever
A Venture Into Dreamland
An Upbringing of Kirby
Emerge the Kirby
The Process of the Puff
Transcend the Blob / Kirboid / Marshmallow / Puff (WTF is Kirby anyway??)
The Pink Puff Cometh
Composition in Kirby

Just some suggestions; I'll try to come up with more later. Hope you like these, anyway.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

Hmm, since this project is all about growth, and since kirby is pink, and since he sucks in air and what not, how about "Pink Expansion"

[KWarp]

Just pointing out that all these suggestions so far are lame.

This is much more difficult than it should be. I think we're trying to combine too many themes.

Kirby
An Adventure
Evolution
Something Celestial
Music

That's just too much to stuff into a title of 2 or 3 words and any title longer sounds utterly stupid. It ain't impossible, but damn this is tough to title.

... <(0_0)>

I think I have something:

Kirby's Dreamband

[chthonic]

You could do something along the lines of Unlikely Hero or Rise of a Star... stuff like that.

Or you could go with the ghey puns.

-chth

[Spotnick]

How about:
Evolving Spheres?

That would get in both Kirby and progressing?

I like it :)

[KWarp]

I'd rather go with a corny pun than a sucky wanna-sound-cool title thanks.

[jordex]

Dreamland Revisions

[Protricity]

Incultus Deficio: The Kirby's Adventure Rearrangement Project

[ella guro]

rofl.

how about something like "transcendental transformations: a kirby's adventure project"? The puns are too obvious to really work, and I don't see any way to incorporate the fact that kirby is a pink puffball in the title without making it sound dumb.

EDIT: plus you have the whole power-acquiring thing kirby does implied with the word "transformations"

[DarkeSword]

Incultus Deficio: The Kirby's Adventure Rearrangement Project

LOL!

[watkinzez]

Kirby's Dreamband

Probably the best one so far IMO. One to fall back on if no one thinks of any good ideas.

[DragoonFenix15]

*unburrows*

1 vote for KIRBY'S DREAMBAND right here.

*burrows and continues lurking*

[DarkeSword]

Some good suggestions; a lot of bad ones too.

I like Rise of a Star; but I also liked that title with Kirbylution in it. I'm really leaning towards "The Theory of Kirbylution." What does everyone think?

[ella guro]

"kirbylution" is just taking the word "evolution" and putting the word "kirby" there. Puns usually have to have some kind of double-meaning or at least sound like the original word. "Kirby's Dreamband" does, but it's a pretty lame pun and it doesn't encorporate any of the celestial-type stuff into the title.

so even though my title is harder to say, I'm going with "transcendental transformations" just because it relates to the celestial-type stuff, the evolution, and the fact that kirby transforms.

PS: yes, I am working on my song

[Protricity]

I'm really leaning towards "The Theory of Kirbylution." What does everyone think?
I don't understand this joke.

[chthonic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kirby even in dreamland in Kirby's Adventure?

I'm probably wrong. But even so, Kirby's Dreamband eludes to the tracks being from Dreamland... which they are mostly not.

-chth

[Darangen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kirby even in dreamland in Kirby's Adventure?

I'm probably wrong. But even so, Kirby's Dreamband eludes to the tracks being from Dreamland... which they are mostly not.

-chth

Exactly what I was thinking.

I personally like the "The Theory of Kirbylution", not only because I semi-thought of it, but that it makes sense. Kirby evolves from a simple Water-Drop to the exalted Hero of Lore.

I think it has a nice ring to it too.

[Rise of a Star sounds pretty good too, but I like Kirbylution better.]

[KWarp]

Bah, for once I get a decnt title and it doesn't fit in to the game. <(-_-)>

I'm smoked on ideas. If the Kirbylution idea goes through I suggest a different word than evolution: http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=evolution

The word progression incorporates music into it right?

[Rick]

HELLO< I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT SOME PROJEKT TITAL SUGGESHONS RITE HERE IMMA TYPE DOWN TEH FIRST THREE THAT CUM RITE OUTTA MY HED!1

1> TEH KIRBEY KONNECTION
2> STANDING BY TEH KIRB (CURB ROFL< YOU KNOW LIKE A ROAD CURB)
3> KIRB YOUR ENTHUSIASM ( HAHA LIKE THAT HBO SHOW ROFL)

[Hadyn]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kirby even in dreamland in Kirby's Adventure?


Yes.

Yes he is.

[Txai]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kirby even in dreamland in Kirby's Adventure?

I'm probably wrong. But even so, Kirby's Dreamband eludes to the tracks being from Dreamland... which they are mostly not.

-chth

Exactly what I was thinking.

I personally like the "The Theory of Kirbylution", not only because I semi-thought of it, but that it makes sense. Kirby evolves from a simple Water-Drop to the exalted Hero of Lore.

I think it has a nice ring to it too.

[Rise of a Star sounds pretty good too, but I like Kirbylution better.]

Yes. Also because of the evolution from Kirby musics, certain? The music from Kirby becomes more modern in remixes. This also is the idea?

Hmm...Kirbylution. The evolution from Kirby musics?

How about, 'Darwin's Theory of Kirbylution.

Darwin? In theory of the Species Evolution?

[chthonic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kirby even in dreamland in Kirby's Adventure?


Yes.

Yes he is.
I figured I'd be wrong. So 'Kirby's Dreamband' just refers to the wrong game, not the wrong setting.

-chth

[Digital Coma]

You could do something along the lines of Unlikely Hero or Rise of a Star... stuff like that.
Most decent suggestion. Accurate analogy and symbolism, unassuming, catchy.

[KWarp]

I feel that title's too simple. There's more to be desired. It's almost good.

[chokst~1.bat]

2> STANDING BY TEH KIRB (CURB ROFL< YOU KNOW LIKE A ROAD CURB)
|23$+ +1+|_3 $0 F4|2! :)

Kirbylution has too many sylables. Too much of a tongue twister. Just my opinion.

[DarkeSword]

I like Rise of the Star too, and I can see the arguments against Kirbylution.

I'm going with Rise of the Star. Any objections? If there are no objections, we'll go with that.

[KWarp]

How about Rise of the Star Warrior?

Kirby's Adventure is the game that has the closest relation to the Kirby TV show, and a big part of the show centers around Star Warriors. "Rise of the Star" homes in more on the Warpstar than it does on Kirby.

[ella guro]

I think Rise of the Star works, because it's both referring to kirby and the stars, whereas adding "warrior" would just make it refer to kirby and clutter up the title. I still like my title, but I was semi-convinced that it's too wordy for a kirby project.

[Hadyn]

"Rise of the Star" makes sense and doesn't sound goofy. Go with it, I say.

[The Joker]

as a listener, I agree, "Rise of the Star" is teh killar!

[Spotnick]

[quote="KWarp"]How about Rise of the Star Warrior?[quote]
You were the one correcting my "Trying-to-be-cool"-name. If telling other people not to do something, don't do it by yourself either.

In fact, I like the name but try to act more polite, would you?

[Lyrai]

As a long-time fan of Kirby games, I'd have to say I like the sound of 'Rise of the Star Warrior' better.

[DarkeSword]

Rise of the Star Warrior SUCKS.

Rise of the Star it is.

[Navi]

Good choice.

edit: Pretty in Pink was better. :cry:

[herograw]

yeah so... I hear there are songs that go with this title (my bandwidth is just begging to be used) D:

-rob

[Liontamer]

Rise of the Star; good choice, bros. Keep up the progress so I have stuff to play on the air soon.

[Ichitootah]

You could do something along the lines of Unlikely Hero or Rise of a Star... stuff like that.
Most decent suggestion. Accurate analogy and symbolism, unassuming, catchy.
I like Rise of the Star too, and I can see the arguments against Kirbylution.

I'm going with Rise of the Star. Any objections? If there are no objections, we'll go with that.

How did "a" transform into "the"? Good title choice overall, but I just think "a" was so much more inspiring. :(

[The Joker]

Opinion time!

I think Rise Of a Star sounds too cheesy & very unrefined. Sounds like some crappy movie about some chubby singer/skinny dance instructor going from humble beginnings to stardom.

Plus Rise of the Star sounds like it can kick small donkey!

[DragoonFenix15]

Rising of the Star?

Or just Rise of the Star... whichever works, man. I'd just like to get to the music, personally =P

[DarkeSword]

The title is already finalized. Stop debating it.

[chthonic]

Aww, But I liked it when it was A... no seriously, I think "Rise of a Star" sounds much better, but if you don't plan on changing it for anything, whatever.

I still feel good for at doing something for the project, considering the compatability issue regarding my track (I got a 3.88 this semester... go figure). Keep it up, everyone. I'm looking forward to this release.

-chth

[KWarp]

How about Rise of the Star Warrior?
You were the one correcting my "Trying-to-be-cool"-name. If telling other people not to do something, don't do it by yourself either.

In fact, I like the name but try to act more polite, would you?

Sorry about that, I have this habit of being rude without realizing it.

And with that, I'm outta here. No point in arguing with an OCR judge until I've gained his respect. If anything, I've done the opposite here. I'll make up for it somehow. Ta ta. :P

[Protricity]

Alright, so a little update on how things are going. I've been busy and only able to check up on this thread every now and again over the last 2 months, thus I may be completely wrong in my conjecture here, but it appears to me that aside from choosing a title there has not been any actual progress for one month, and no significant 'reasonable' progress for more like 2 months now. Whats most important is that now there does not appear to much in the way of momentum or motivation. The deadline has been extended numerous times, but the last deadline was passed last year and no new ones were made blah blah blah.
Anyway so I'd like to know what you guys think before I discuss any potential changes with the other sp mods. If this project really is just about to go over the final hump then thats cool, but this title naming does not really cover for what has been months without any visual evidence of progress.
Another thing I'd recommend is (given there is stuff behind the scenes that some of us cannot see) to update the first post with current proceedings. Lots of the other projects are doing this now, makes things very straightforward and easy to follow. The other projects are stumbling a bit as well, but regardless I clearly see progress there etc.

[DarkeSword]

Alright, so a little update on how things are going. I've been busy and only able to check up on this thread every now and again over the last 2 months, thus I may be completely wrong in my conjecture here, but it appears to me that aside from choosing a title there has not been any actual progress for one month, and no significant 'reasonable' progress for more like 2 months now. Whats most important is that now there does not appear to much in the way of momentum or motivation. The deadline has been extended numerous times, but the last deadline was passed last year and no new ones were made blah blah blah.
Anyway so I'd like to know what you guys think before I discuss any potential changes with the other sp mods. If this project really is just about to go over the final hump then thats cool, but this title naming does not really cover for what has been months without any visual evidence of progress.
Another thing I'd recommend is (given there is stuff behind the scenes that some of us cannot see) to update the first post with current proceedings. Lots of the other projects are doing this now, makes things very straightforward and easy to follow. The other projects are stumbling a bit as well, but regardless I clearly see progress there etc.

Thanks for the concern. :)

There are a few tracks already finished. I'm at school on my laptop at the moment, but I have the list of finished tracks at home on my PC. I'll post sometime tonight or tomorrow (need to install the new cabinets tonight at my house :( )I've talked to a few people OUTSIDE of this thread to get stuff going, but I'll admit right away that I've been terrible about posting stuff in here.

More tracks should be coming in soon.

[DarkeSword]

KirbyMixer - 22/57 - Water Drop WIP
Darangen - 51/52 - Son of Wind DONE
Adhesive_Boy - 41/42 - L'il Traveller WIP
analoq - 31/32 - Star Herald DONE
Rellik - 55/37/22 - Swift Hunter DONE
Suzumebachi - 28/29 - Dream Hunter DONE
Ellywu2 - 18/19 - Dream Warrior WIP
Trenthian - 1/2 - Star General WIP
DarkeSword - 33 - Great Ace In Process
Trenthian - 14/15 - Final Star In Process
GrayLightning - 56 - Hero of Lore In Process

Here is where we stand so far on music. Bas is nearly done with his track; he told me he just needs to tweak levels. I spoke with EllyWu2 and he SAYS he's going to try and finish up his track; I need to follow up with him on that; if he's out then I'm taking that track myself. AB's got an absolute deadline set for himself for the end of next week. If he's out I'm taking that track myself. Gray is also promising something by the end of that week so that should be fine. My own tracks I need to work on. It's been so busy here.

I'd also like to apologize to everyone for appearing to be so unresponsive to this thread, SP mods included. It's been busy here with the renovations at my house, school stuff, and work stuff. Big projects going on everywhere. I'm not trying to make excuses, but at least people know what I'm up to. Thanks to everyone for their hard work so far. I was aiming for a January release. That is not happening. March is probably the most realistic estimation I can give for a release so far. However, I remain optimistic that this project can be complete before then.

[jordex]

noo i was away, the names already been chosen?

I really liked "Dreamland Revisions"

"Rise of a Star" has nada to do with music

But I still can't wait for the release of this album, I'm mainly looking forward to Adhesive Boy and analoq's remixes, I guess rellik's as well if it will be anything like his dreaming on distant shores

[Kirbymixer]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixermusic.htm
(look for V4)
Comments would be very much appreciated, especially the part of 3:28-4:10, because I'm not sure if I must hold that part or not, due to the theme I have (waterdrop).

"Rise of a Star" has nada to do with music
But it has very much to do with this project :)

[Spotnick]

ok KWarp :)

It's ok :)

Maybe I got abit angry too, but whatever. :)

Glad it's nearly hear now! :)
YEAH!

[Darangen]

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixermusic.htm
(look for V4)
Comments would be very much appreciated, especially the part of 3:28-4:10, because I'm not sure if I must hold that part or not, due to the theme I have (waterdrop).

The intro is really cool, nice vibe. I think the little string thing at :52 could be lowered a tad, but maybe that's just me.

About 3:38-4:10; In itself, it's a really cool idea. I'm not sure if it really fits the Water Drop description, but that's up to DarkeSword not me.

Overall, I like the ideas you have throughout the arrangement, and they are all excuted rather nicely. However, it's 6:31 long and could seem to wear out it's welcome. I had to make myself listen to it a second time to comment on it, but if not I probably wouldn't have listened to it again until a different day. I'm not saying it's a bad arrangement, but I think a shorter version might take you farther along the road. Either way, I like it :)

[DarkeSword]

Okay Bas. I think the arrangement overall works. It's a little long, but that's okay. My only issue is still the saxophone. If you can change that to oboe, that'd be great, because I really don't think that the sax fits with the overall orchestral texture of the piece. If you're really against it, I guess you can leave it, but I'd rather it wasn't there.

[Kirbymixer]

Uploaden V4.2 >.>, at the usual adres http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kirbymixer.htm , look for V4 again. Main update is that the sax is changed with the oboe ^__^

[DarkeSword]

KirbyMixer - 22/57 - Water Drop DONE*
Darangen - 51/52 - Son of Wind DONE
Adhesive_Boy - 41/42 - L'il Traveller WIP
analoq - 31/32 - Star Herald DONE
Rellik - 55/37/22 - Swift Hunter DONE
Suzumebachi - 28/29 - Dream Hunter DONE
DarkeSword - 18/19 - Dream Warrior In Process
Trenthian - 1/2 - Star General WIP
DarkeSword - 33 - Great Ace In Process
Trenthian - 14/15 - Final Star In Process
GrayLightning - 56 - Hero of Lore In Process

Okay, so Ellywu2 let me know he dropped, so I'm taking that track, unless anyone else wants it.

[chthonic]

KirbyMixer - 22/57 - Water Drop DONE*
Darangen - 51/52 - Son of Wind DONE
Adhesive_Boy - 41/42 - L'il Traveller WIP
analoq - 31/32 - Star Herald DONE
Rellik - 55/37/22 - Swift Hunter DONE
Suzumebachi - 28/29 - Dream Hunter DONE
DarkeSword - 18/19 - Dream Warrior In Process
Trenthian - 1/2 - Star General WIP
DarkeSword - 33 - Great Ace In Process
Trenthian - 14/15 - Final Star In Process
GrayLightning - 56 - Hero of Lore In Process

Okay, so Ellywu2 let me know he dropped, so I'm taking that track, unless anyone else wants it.
Hmm... do you think I could toy with a WiP and see if I get something substantial for Dream Warrior? At any rate, I'm going to start on it, whether I get the slot or not. I'll get a WiP up and you can let me know if you want me to complete the track.

-chth

[DarkeSword]

Sounds fine with me; you were on the project before, so it's okay. Please post something ASAP.

Here's my WIP for Aviator Soul ~Theme of Great Ace~.

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

[DarkeSword]

KirbyMixer - 22/57 - Water Drop DONE
Darangen - 51/52 - Son of Wind DONE
Adhesive_Boy - 41/42 - L'il Traveller WIP
analoq - 31/32 - Star Herald DONE
Rellik - 55/37/22 - Swift Hunter DONE
Suzumebachi - 28/29 - Dream Hunter DONE
Chthonic - 18/19 - Dream Warrior In Process
Trenthian - 1/2 - Star General WIP
DarkeSword - 33 - Great Ace WIP
Trenthian - 14/15 - Final Star In Process
GrayLightning - 56 - Hero of Lore In Process

Alright; I listened to Kirbymixer's track. I like it. It's finished.

5 tracks done. 6 to go.

[ella guro]

I've made a lot of progress this weekend on my mix, so it should be done in the next couple days.

[chthonic]

Theme of Dream Warrior (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244)

Wow... inspiration strikes. I spent three or four hours getting the general concept down, and it's a huge deviation from my comfort genre-scope. Tell me what you think.

-chth

[DarkeSword]

Sounding good chth. Make sure, however, that you pay attention to the rhythms in the original. The melodic line stays the same, but the rhythms change ever-so-slightly each time. Listen to the NSF to see what I mean. Also, I think that the synth playing the melody could sound wider or deeper; try some delay and reverb on it.

[Hadyn]

Okay, so Ellywu2 let me know he dropped, so I'm taking that track, unless anyone else wants it.

Remember ages ago, when I said I'd do that track if ellywu2 had any problems, but you told me I wasn't good enough?

Yeah, well, I went and started remixing it anyways (just for the hell of it) - and this is what I came up with:

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2448

If you wanted, I could finish it for this project. My skills have improved since I last worked on it, and I'm certain I could get an even better sound out of it if I tried.

Then again, it's up to you.

~Hadyn

[DarkeSword]

Chthonic already started a piece man.

[Hadyn]

Ah, fair enough.

[chthonic]

Sorry, dude. I'll give that a listen when I get home. At any rate, don't hesitate to finish it; music is music and I'd love to hear your take on the theme.

-chth

[Hadyn]

Sorry, dude. I'll give that a listen when I get home. At any rate, don't hesitate to finish it; music is music and I'd love to hear your take on the theme.

-chth

Thanks :)

Yeah, I'm planning on finishing it either way, once I get several other projects out of the way ^^

[Spotnick]

Hadyn, you surely have got some skills now, but chtonics remix maybe differs from the original more and, well, I like Chtonics works, :), so maybe next time, but you're remix is surely splendid (read: Much better than the one I have done :P)

But you can see that Chtonic has a lot more work to do with this. Hadyns has WAY more pure and clear sound. But yeah, keep on working both of you.
Here are my tips for Chtonics remix:

Deeper strings, and more effects maybe.
Especially on the highpitched ones that doesn't sound very good. I like the Blipy-sound, whatever too call it.
When the beats come in at the beginning it's not very "pure". Maybe change there a little and in overall, make the drums feel more powerful.
The bassline is exelent in my opinion, but keep working. You may find something even better, how should I know.

That was all.

:)

[StarZander]

Reading this thread has made me actually buy Kirby's Adventure for my nes. This is great. Can't wait for this to finish.

[chthonic]

It's 'chthonic'. Thanks for the comments, though.

-chth

[ella guro]

Ok, my mix is done. There will probably be a few mixing changes and other things done before it's finalized, but this is essentially the final. It's on vgmix as a WIP to save some space:

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3250

Comments and everything are appreciated, as always.

[Hadyn]

AB - I love your mix :D really cool stuff indeed!

chth - I have a suggestion to make: Start the song with a note that falls on-beat. Otherwise it gets confusing, and people start to think that the bridging note is actually the main one, and their sense of timing is thrown of by a beat. Otherwise, your mix is sounding promising :) I look forward to hearing more ^^

~Hadyn

[DarkeSword]

AB - I love your mix :D really cool stuff indeed!

chth - I have a suggestion to make: Start the song with a note that falls on-beat. Otherwise it gets confusing, and people start to think that the bridging note is actually the main one, and their sense of timing is thrown of by a beat. Otherwise, your mix is sounding promising :) I look forward to hearing more ^^

~Hadyn

:|

If you can't pick out a pickup...well...:(

[Vilecat]

chth and Hadyn could always make it a collab, seems they're about to make it so, heh. But that's just a suggestion, since both wanna work on the song/project.

The more it goes, the better this project sounds. Don't give up guys =D!!!!

[Vilecat]

Ouch, evil double post >.<;

[Hadyn]

oh, thanks.

What's to say their couldn't be a song that goes like this: ftp://66.221.70.133/Other/blaghhhh.mp3 ?

Because that's how I personally heard the start of chth's song.

~Hadyn

EDIT: only, I messed up the lowest note (should be lower, right?) - ohwell, you still get the idea. I put that together in a few seconds, by the way... so that's why it sucks. It's just to show what I thought.

EDIT 2: Alright, I went back into FL to try the same thing if I fixed the lower note... and now it sounds a little dumb, so yeah.
*nervous whistle* maybe it's just me that's stupid.

[Hadyn]

chth and Hadyn could always make it a collab, seems they'se about to make it so, heh. But that's just a suggestion, since both wanna work on the song/project.

The more it goes, the better this project sounds. Don't give up guys =D!!!!

Hehe, actually I think chth would do better without me ^^

We've both gone different ways with the mix, and yeah, I don't think our styles would blend too well. I'm fine with not being part of the project - I'm still going to finish my mix anyways ^^

[DarkeSword]

Aviator Soul update:

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

[Spotnick]

It's 'chthonic'. Thanks for the comments, though.

-chth
Ah, sorry. :)
Missed that H.
No problems for the comments sire! :)

[Spotnick]

Here are my thoughts on AB:s remix:

Cool intro by my opinion.
The basssounds that starts at about 0:25 isn't the best, but maybe. It get's a little too messy too about 1:00. It get's better maybe, but still a little too messy. Nice melody still. Very cool "solo" at 1:54, and the synth-sound afterwards is cool, same for the Caramba-Island sound or whatever too call it :P Still very good and it's now on 3:00. The crossfade there is also cool and I really like the new bassline. Hehe, blip blop à la mario. Still cool on 3:50 and the new more slow part is very amazing too. This remix is really awesome except from the little mess in the beginning.
The ending is cool too except for some little clip, that i thought I heard.

Nice Work Adhesive Boy! :)

[chthonic]

AB - I love your mix :D really cool stuff indeed!

chth - I have a suggestion to make: Start the song with a note that falls on-beat. Otherwise it gets confusing, and people start to think that the bridging note is actually the main one, and their sense of timing is thrown of by a beat. Otherwise, your mix is sounding promising :) I look forward to hearing more ^^

~Hadyn

:|

If you can't pick out a pickup...well...:(
I still need to make the velocity of the pickup note softer, and I might make use of a reverse cymbal. The downbeat should be much clearer after that.

-chth

[ella guro]

The "final" version of my mix with a few minor changes done to it is avaliable on the same vgmix wip thread:

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3250

Thanks for everyone who commented on the first version (any more are still appreciated)! Good luck to everyone else who's mixing. I just hope this project manages to survive to see the end...

[Hadyn]

Aviator Soul update:

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

Are you looking for feedback, or simply showing us your progress so far?

'Cause, you know, there's are a few things I could give feedback on, but it's a strange role reversal, giving advice to a judge o.O

[Hadyn]

I still need to make the velocity of the pickup note softer, and I might make use of a reverse cymbal. The downbeat should be much clearer after that.

-chth

cool cool :)

Reverse cymbals are a little cliche, though. Maybe make up some original wacky sound instead? ^^

Anyways, I can't wait to hear more :)

[DarkeSword]

Aviator Soul update:

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

Are you looking for feedback, or simply showing us your progress so far?

'Cause, you know, there's are a few things I could give feedback on, but it's a strange role reversal, giving advice to a judge o.O

Feedback away. I still post my stuff in the WIP you know. :P

[chthonic]

Sorry that I haven't updated, but I've been quite busy. Tonight is my first night off from everything, so I've set a midnight deadline for version 2.

-chth

[chthonic]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244

Version two... changes are explained in the buzz thread. Anyone have any title ideas? I'm usually good at this type of thing, but this piece's name escapes me.

-chth

[Patrick Burns]

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244

Version two... changes are explained in the buzz thread. Anyone have any title ideas? I'm usually good at this type of thing, but this piece's name escapes me.

-chth

not sure about a name... hmmm
you do intend to make it a tad bit longer, don't you? maybe you could add a slow, quiet orchestral intro before the detache comes in. also, the begining of the source material is in c dorian mode, perhaps you could stick an F# in there and play around on the blues scale w/ your trumpet (very nice addition, btw).

[DarkeSword]

Sounds good to me so far.

Need to think on a name.

[chthonic]

While pondering in class today, the words "Dream Warrior" instantly sparked a link to "Tribal Warrior" and I got to work as soon as I got home.

In other words:

UPDTAE, FOOL (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244)

It's almost close to a decent length... w00t.

-chth

[Hadyn]

i'm liking this...

As I listen, my thoughts:

The first trumpet section needs to be atleast twice as long... it rocks, and needs to be longer.

The tribal section at the end is also quite cool, though also too short, and ending too soon. It should build back up into the full melody, which should play a bunch more times... Then have the trumpet section again, maybe followed by the main progression with a trumpet solo over the top?

Just my thoughts. Keep up the awesome work ^^

[DarkeSword]

A little while ago, GrayLightning gave me the bad news that his mixing computer went down, and that he wouldn't be able to complete his Hero of Lore piece. That's the third mixer who dropped out on it, so I've worked out something with reelmojo, the coordinator of the People's Remix Competition. The contest this week is to remix Track 56 in the style of a Hero of Lore track. I encourage mixers already involved with the project to try and compete as well.

http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51656

[Protricity]

Do we have a new deadline for the project completion?

[DarkeSword]

I want to set a realistic deadline.

April 1st (seriously).

[Protricity]

Quite a ways away.

[DarkeSword]

Yes, like I said, I want to be realistic. With the way things have been going, April 1st seems like a very realistic completion date.

[Darangen]

And if it's done before April 1st, all the better :).

[Spotnick]

Hehe, sure is! :)
How's that PRC-thingy going?
Hope, that they will get the chance to improve the song after it wins the competition, if so is necessary.
April 1st sure sounds good, but hope it will be sooner :)

[Navi]

If you guys can, go and vote in the PRC now, eh?

[DarkeSword]

That's right. PRC has ended, and there are songs up for voting. I'd like everyone to please head over to the PRC thread and vote in the contest, because they will decide the mix to be included as the theme of Hero of Lore.

[suzumebachi]

I can see it now.

"The Kirby ReMix Project has finally completed... APRIL FOOLS!"

[Protricity]

Thats what I was wonderin

[DarkeSword]

OH NO YOU FIGURED IT OUT :( :( :(

[DarkeSword]

PRC Results are in, and Gray, Bladiator, and Hemophiliac won with their collaboration, Dreams of Valor. That's another mix done. Time to get crackin, people.

[chthonic]

I'm having a spell of un-inspiration, so mine might just end up being the main theme run though, the tribal drum segment, synth blues scale solo, main theme variation. I'll see what happens and try to get the "final" version uploaded soon.

-chth

[chthonic]

Starbound (Theme of Dream Warrior) (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244)

Not my absolute best work, but probably my most creative as far as instrumentation goes. The somewhat lackluster flow and structure comes from my said inspiration deprivation, so I needed to complete this and move on. It's finished in my mind, but I'll make any changes you feel are needed.

Too many changes from the last version to discuss, so just listen to it.

Edit: This is basically the final version. I do have two TINY tweaks I want to make, so I'll update with the final final version tomorrow.

-chth

[Darangen]

Starbound (Theme of Dream Warrior) (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=3244)

Not my absolute best work, but probably my most creative as far as instrumentation goes. The somewhat lackluster flow and structure comes from my said inspiration deprivation, so I needed to complete this and move on. It's finished in my mind, but I'll make any changes you feel are needed.

Too many changes from the last version to discuss, so just listen to it.

Edit: This is basically the final version. I do have two TINY tweaks I want to make, so I'll update with the final final version tomorrow.

-chth

Sounds cool :) Especially around the 1:00 mark, love that part of the theme.

The part at 1:20-ish lends way to the 'Dream Warrior' concept, and is performed quite nicely :)

Very good, I like it.

[DarkeSword]

We're moving along slowly but surely. Only three mixes left; mine, and two from Trenthian. We shall endeavor. In the meantime, I would like everyone to upload a wave master of their mix to herograw's FTP space, so that when album release time comes, I'll be able to create the wav torrents and encode everything consistently across the board. Here is the connection info:

HOLY SHIT SOUNDCLICK SUCKS ASS I AM STILL OFFERING HOSTING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT FOR THEIR WIPS R SUM SHIT AS FOLLOWS NOOB=>

FTP ==> herograw.com

NAME ==> kirby@herograw.com

PASS: asdf

UPLOAD SHIT INTO WIP DIRECTORY OKAY AFK

FILES WILL APPEAR AT ==> http://herograw.com/kirby/WIP/

-ORB

EDIT: SHIT IS CASE-SENSITIVE REMEMBER THIS OK

Much thanks.

[DarkeSword]

My track, Aviator Soul (Theme of Great Ace) is complete, and is only awaiting minor tweaks.

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

Comments on levels and balance are appreciated.

[Darangen]

Only thing I could notice is that the higher strings around 2:00 might be a little loud (they also seem to appear around 3:02ish).

Other than that, no problems found here ;)

[suzumebachi]

ok. finally finished uploading the wav master of my song. jesus that took forever.

i rar'd it though, which shrunk it from 33mb down to 22mb. that helped quite a bit.

now we wait for trenthian. :roll:

[Spotnick]

My thoughts of Aviator:
The backgroundstrings sound a little too "midi" and synthic, by my opinion. It also should be a little heavier, and more powerful.

Don't rush too much on this one DarkeSword.
It can ruin much of the project. It's a nice song, but I think it needs some tweaking and maybe little things added to the melodic and ambientic parts.

But still, it's nice.

[chthonic]

My track, Aviator Soul (Theme of Great Ace) is complete, and is only awaiting minor tweaks.

http://shariqansari.com/great-ace.mp3

Comments on levels and balance are appreciated.
Florestan oboe has "bad" notes that stick out naturally, one of those notes being B flat. You have that note at around :52 and 1:00, I believe. It's midfrequencies screamed and came close to making me wince. It's easy to fix... if the oboe has it's own mixer channel, you can just curve the mids down with the equalizer that's right there on the mixer. You might even be able to automate it to lower the mids only when the B flat plays, but either way, I definitley think it needs to be fixed.

Nice reference to Green Greens in the horns at :20 and 2:35... very smooth. It's just a tad more subtle than mine 8)

I also think you should up the volume of the snare and percussion the last time the theme plays, to add emphasis. Everybody loves a loud final chorus :)

Other than those minor things, this is great work. I especially love the solo voice and moving cello lines. Gooood stuff.

-chth

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

chthonic, your remix is WOW.

[genghisdani]

WHOA!!

Darke/Shariq, This is great! I love how it came out!

There are a few places where it sounds like you might be using a cheap soundfont or something, it just doesn't sound real enough to my ears; but, other than that, the orchestration is awesome.

As for levels, it sounds good in general, but there are a couple spots where it might be a little too loud; I don't know, it could just be my imagination.

[suzumebachi]

trenthian.......................................

[I.Medley]

Just want to say that I am really looking forward to this project. I just want to encourage all the mixers to work hard on the pieces. Also, props to DarkeSword for organizing and maintaining this project.

P.S. chthonic, your ReMix is great; it reminds me a bit of "Dancing Mad." :P

[chthonic]

trenthian...
Exactly what I was thinking.

-chth

[bladiator]

Gray and I are planning on doing some tweaking to our PRC entry/project remix. If you guys have any comments/suggestions, that would be great. Do I need to leave a link?

EDIT: Sorry guys. Forget I said anything, cause I'm a big idiot, and not up on any of the latest happenings. :)

[molto pene]

When is this going to be released? It looks a thousand times better than these other projects. Mainly because these other games suck. And Kirby rules.

[Darangen]

When is this going to be released? It looks a thousand times better than these other projects. Mainly because these other games suck. And Kirby rules.

When it's ready.

Seriously though, we're working on getting the details finished up, and we almost have all the mixes collected.

[Patrick Burns]

what exactly is left to get done before the release? cover art should be trivial, and im guessing ds is coming up with some sort of site design and that there is some behind the scenes communication with Trenthian... what else?

it just seems like there's a little hiccup in the momentum :?

[chthonic]

That hiccup would be Trenthian.

Where'd he go, anyway?

-chth

[DarkeSword]

That hiccup would be Trenthian.

Where'd he go, anyway?

-chth

He works at EA. :roll:

And yes, I've been talking to him; Star General is almost done; also, I have Beatdrop working on Final Star; he's usually quick about stuff, so I'm not worried about that.

As far as a site goes, I need to work on one; I have some really rough sketches sitting around; nothing substantial yet. I have lots of schoolwork (new semester started; I must adjust to my new schedule), so sitting down to do web design is going to take a lot of free time. I will post progress as I make it.

[StarZander]

As far as a site goes, I need to work on one; I have some really rough sketches sitting around; nothing substantial yet. I have lots of schoolwork (new semester started; I must adjust to my new schedule), so sitting down to do web design is going to take a lot of free time. I will post progress as I make it.

Did someone mention a website? I could probably make one, if you don't want it too advanced. I only know html, but I make good designs. PM me if you want my help.

[Trenthian]

Sorry about the hold up guys, should be finished with mine sometime this weekend, if I cant do that, I promise a trenthian promise that I will have it finished before april 1st.



its coming along really nicely,

Its part electronic, and mostly orchestral.

very smooth throughout so far. I could just drop an ending on it, but I feel thats sorta cop'ing out since I only have about 2:30 of kick ass happening so far.

[Kadosho]

Trent, never one to let down.
How's your job goin btw?

Can't wait to hear the finished songs. :D

[DarkeSword]

Tweaked my piece more and finished it. It's not rendered, but I have it and it's finished, and that's all that matters. :P

Heard a WIP from Beatdrop for Final Star; it's coming along nicely. Also heard a WIP from Trenthian for Star General; also sounds good.

I'm looking for a good artist to do album art/cover art stuff. Post a sample of your work here please.

[Txai]

I'm looking for a good artist to do album art/cover art stuff. Post a sample of your work here please.

I did this wallpaper on this month.

http://img174.exs.cx/img174/5279/nintendosinterrogationbytxai2r.jpg

However, I can make an better work. And this wallpaper is very strange and bizarre. Anyway, what did you think?