OCR01826 - Chrono Trigger 'Fight for Our Future!'

[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[yosefu]

Its really a good remix but what i love about it is its energy from the guitars.:-P

[metalsnakejuice]

This track really kicks ass.

[Dj Mokram]

That Mr Nekofrog is as mean as ever, and he proves it once again.
I'm not a guitarist, but I'm a CT fan ( and unlike a certain evil character, I'm a fan from the game too :mrgreen: ).
And as a fan, having recently remixed a CT fanfare in rock, I'm more than happy that competent people with real knowledge of both the instrument & music in general give this song the tribute it deserves.

This remix by Nekofrog is to Chrono Trigger what was Snappleman & Norg's Full Frontal Assault to Final Fantasy 7: justice.
You want some nice rendition that amplify the original to boost your energy for the day? You're served.
You want some clever use of source mixed with subtle but necessary variations? You're served.
You just want some pure & right to the point kick-assery? You're served.

I know it's no technical review here, but I tried to give you a feel of what 'fight for our future' gives you.
Well, it simply gives you the adrenaline rush that you need. ;-)
Go grab it!

[KyleJCrb]

While the original is actually pretty popular to rock out amongst the doujin community (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Djin_music), it's great to see another take of it here on OCR. My favorite part of the original has always been the bassline, and you did it sweet justice here, especially at 3:15. Very energetic, which I appreciate most in rock remixes, and the integration of Schala at 1:05 and again at the end was a nice touch and actually fits well (as cliched as that particular theme is in this community). Unfortunately, the drums are a tad weak, but not enough to bring the overall track down. Nice work Neko.

[Dunther]

I was waiting for a remix like this :) very good...

[Duokun]

I visited OCRemix drowsy and tired at 2 in the morning to find a remix that's been keeping me awake for more than 2 hours on end. I do believe that this remix has earned the status of simply, purely, EPIC.

Now, my attempt to be slightly more analytical, the guitar is incredibly powerful yet smooth. The hi-hat is probably my favorite part of the drumline. It's got a real funky beat that just rocks my world. I feel like the kick probably could've had a little more force behind it, but perhaps that would've made the song too loud and distracting. I'm actually quite satisfied with the way it is, but my opinion isn't the only one that counts!

Good work Nekofrog. Now...make us more! :tomatoface:

[BlackPanther]

This was tight, this is a battle theme I woulda liked to hear in Chrono Trigger instead of the less energetic version in the game, good stuff man.

[John Revoredo]

Oh f*ck yeah, this a true caffeine-powered rock mix: frantic drumming rhytmic guitar riffs playing and a strong bassline. The composition is fantastic. This mix is really good, im really glad it got accepted.

[UchihaVilu]

Nice wrok on teh geetur. It's a great mix, that i will label as SUPERIOR, instead of EPIC.
'cause you haven't played Chrono Trigger.

[Petara]

Freakin stellar, Neko. The greatest take on the song for sure.

[DragonAvenger]

Nekofrog brings some awesome rock to this track, and I'm glad to see it get some coverage rather than all the more popular CT tracks that are usually done. The guitars and the bass really do the song justice.

I can't say the drums do too much for me. It would have been nice to have those be a tad louder to really bring up the energy. I'm on the fence about the Schala moments as well; when it first came in I thought it broke up the energy, but as it transitioned to the next section it worked well. It will take me a few more listens to really get my opinion on that one.

The rising synth line at ~3:10 felt a little out of place as well. It lacked the strong kick of everything else presented. Not sure what could have been used otherwise, but I'm not crazy about it as is.

Enjoyable, but some things could really bring this track up in my opinion.

[Monobrow]

cool beans dude :D

[Nekofrog]

Meh.

Dropped the ball on the drums, this was back before I learned a lot of stuff.

Wait till you see my upcoming stuff. It'll -really- blow you away.

[Sinewav]

Awesome, Neko. I've been waiting for this one since you told me about it at the Louisville meetup. Lives up to and far exceeds my expectations. There's not much I can say about it that hasn't already been said:

Guitar work was fantastic
Loved the variations on the theme
Drums were a bit repetitive and lacked punch, but the overall energy of the song easily made up for it

[Lint]

Love you for remixing this song, even if you don't care for the game. The game has many flawed aspects, though the soundtrack was NEVER one of them.

I think this mix's rock tone really emphasizes how incredibly powerful the battle music was (considering that the second Battle music is hardly in the game). The rough, rock intro bores into me and really pushes the song forward. I'm not sure how much the varying melody parts really stand out against the main line until 1:04 when it changes riff. I think it would be interesting to hear the quieter parts of the melody stand out (even though this is a driving rock ReMix. The drums fit, but don't really do anything special. The lead at 2:30 kind of feels out of place and I don't find it adding much. The silence and minimalist part starting at 3:03 I thought could have been extended - or even had something more intersting to it, though it might have taken away from the driving rock.

Eh, Overall I thought it was a fair mix. It's not something I'll actively seek out, and I don't really appreciate this take on the source. I do think that Battle I is one of the "killa cuts" off of the album, and appreciate that this track has nothing to do with 12,000 B.C. (Schala, Zeal, Ocean Palace, Black Omen), Magus, 600 A.D., or the main theme. The soundtrack has so many cuts and too few of them are done justice.

[Sir_Downunder]

About high time the CT's battle theme was done some awesome rawk justice. :grin:

It didn't matter to me if the drums lacked a bit of punch (though i was lovin' the hi-hat), the guitar work more than made up for it.

Great work Neko!

[Gario]

No comment on the guitar work (no need to praise you for that anymore :razz:). The arrangement was incredibly creative! I'm glad your showing off your stuff here - a lot of up coming guitarists can learn from your ability to re-create a piece of music to make it your own.

Great as always, Froggy Dude :nicework:!

[VARDOCK]

:)!!:-P:nicework::grin: Totally awesome!

[OA]

Great rhythm guitar sound, super dry and in your face. Total classic metal sound, and really highlights the precision. \m/

Really nice energy throughout, and I even though i'm so over Schala, this way of presenting it was well done and fresh.

Drums are passable, but definitely the weak spot, production-wise.

Good stuff, I thought it rocked.

[MojoHamster]

When SquareEnix finally runs out of Handheld Consoles to re-release Chrono Trigger on and we're onto 17th Generation console graphics and they finally decide to do a full remake of Chrono Trigger.

This should be the battle theme.

[Mtlbro]

That guitar solo, especially at 2:40, is FREAKIN COOL!

[Flare4War]

Umm... Wow. There's only a few remixes of this genre that I like. This is officially one of them. The guitar work is very well structured. Love the turn it takes at 3:15.

I like finding good songs/remixes like this and putting them on for sound rather than the game sound, while I troll through Ninja Gaiden II killing all. This is perfect for that. Yep, I could definitely slay fiends to this.

In fact, I think I shall. Great job Neko.



Edit: p.s. I agree with Vinnie in regards to the battle theme. I always thought it was a little under bar my self when held up against the rest of the CT soundtrack. Even, more kudos to Neko for that because his translation of the battle theme is stupendous.

[K.B.]

Oh hell yes. This remix rocks. Hard.

And what's up with the hating of Battle 1? From here on I declare it only appropriate when done in deference to this remix.

Had I made this (and had I the talent and dedication to do so), I would have done a few things differently. Most glaringly, I would increased the dynamic range and extended the breakdown starting at 3:08 (incorporating guitar at 3:14), giving a comparative pause to the piece and allowing for an extended buildup to an even louder climax. HOWEVER, now that I've listened to this a hundred times or so (it rocks so hard that winamp has sustained mostly this remix on repeat for the past few days), I've come to see the merit in what Nekofrog obviously had in mind. This is get-the-lead-out, 100% energy, 100% of the time. No silly, gratuitous ups and downs. Even the supposed breakdown isn't a rest. It's nonstop adrenaline. If this were to become the battle theme for the next remake of ct, I think I would be wiped out from playing it in less than an hour.

The layering is awesome (especially when there are three hot damn) and sync-ed spot-on, the picking/riffing is clean, and the chugging is downright nasty. I love every bit of that guitar work. I know I'm not qualified to comment, but I still love it.

And those bits of Schala. How did you think to incorporate...? Nevermind. It works perfectly.

Man, that's it I'm done. F-ing rock on, Neko.

[Nekofrog]

Thank you sirs.

[jintoreedwine]

Until I heard this remix I actually couldn't even remember how the battle theme went. This remix has brought much justice to it, however. The guitar work sounds very well done, and I especially like the section from 3:04 to 3:25 .

Swell job!

[Martin Penwald]

..., and I even though i'm so over Schala, this way of presenting it was well done and fresh.

Same here.

I like the "red alert"-kinda opening, though the transition into the rocking guitar part could've been smoother. The guitar work is insane and makes this one of the most energetic remixes I've listened to lately.

Loving the short breakdown at ~3:10. 3:45 onwards is my favourite part of the song; I just can't get it out of my head.

Great stuff. Keep rocking.

[MechaFone]

I haven't really listened to a CT remix for a while, but I don't remember many of them being this awesome. I like the background guitar work, and the occasional melodies from different themes. All very badass, I like it!

[lostpropht]

I love CT music, and i thoroughly enjoyed this mix. It kind of reminds me a little bit of Dynasty Warriors lol. Good Job!!!

[Bip]

I absolutely hate hate HATE the battle theme from Chrono Trigger. It's awful. Now that I've heard this particular piece, it's not the tune itself that makes me angry, it's just the way it was presented. This remix rocks, and is a joy to listen to. Maybe I'll give the source another listen.

*five minutes later* Nope, still garbage. You sold your soul to pull off this remix so well.

[tweek]

Ok, right out of the gate, you can hear a VAST difference in the tone of the drums and the guitar from Justin's first solo remix, and the change is fabulous! The backing pads are very Halo esque and do a great job in bringing all the parts together and filling the empty frequency spaces. The lead guitar tone is crisp and clear. The performance is top notch, but that has never been an issue for Nekofrog. The drums feel a little sequenced and shot-gunned here and there, but that's more the beat pattern. With a little more variation in the sequencing, this would have felt a bit better. It's interesting that Justin used more acoustic sounding drums when he was programming a very DnB esque beat. It would have been interesting to hear how this would have sounded with synthetic drum samples, but I digress. The production quality of this piece is definitely better than his first, not to say that his first was bad, but he certainly brought something new to the table with one. Great job Justin!

[LoneSword]

Ohman, I've always hated the main Battle Theme to the point that sometimes I avoided battles just so I could continue to enjoy better music like Tyran Castle. But this, THIS...this brings the song to justice. Incredible work from all angles, a virtually flawless remix, you certainly turned a lusterless, forgettable track into something infinitely memorable. Great work!

[TheCorty]

Aw yeah!-- This is justice. Back when I played it, both as a little kid to a few years ago, I really tried to enjoy this battle theme. It always stood out in my mind because I used to be extremely bad at navigating myself in RPGs. And I mean Goldfish Memory Syndrome bad. Which gave me plenty of time to listen closely to every single facet of that theme, while I floundered about inside 600AD's cathedral dungeon.

Anyway, it always sounded completely lame, somehow. Now that it's properly remixed, it is so awesome, yet recognizable that I wish I could somehow patch my Chrono Trigger ROM (already patched with non-Woolsey translations) so that it plays this instead.

[Marmiduke]

This clearly rocks. It's a brilliant expansion on the original track, not only in arrangement but also in tone. It takes the sparseness of the original and gives it fuller, classic rock production that, while it could have been fuller, brings out strengths in the composition that I never knew were there. Finally, the theme's true potency has been activated, and it only took some awesome Neko guitar work to do it.
I enjoyed the hell out of this; it's got a professional sound, it's technically stellar, it's fast and it's loud. Definitely not just another Chrono Trigger mix.