OC ReMix Special on NEW Groove Bias Drum Library! (Now With Freebies)

[zircon]

http://www.impactsoundworks.com/images/groove_bias_logo.jpg

Special offer for OCR members only! $10 off and $10 of each sale gets donated to the site! Click here (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5709727) to get the Kontakt 2/EXS/Halion version, and here (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5709745) for the Reason version.

I'm proud to announce that the newest Impact Soundworks (http://www.impactsoundworks.com) sample library, Groove Bias: Vintage Drum Sounds (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/products/groove-bias-vintage-drum-sounds/), is officially available at a special price for OC ReMix members! Not only are bustatunez (http://www.ocremix.org/artist/4749/bustatunez) and I offering this sound collection at a discount, but for every copy we sell we'll donate $10 to OCR. Just remember to use the purchase links in THIS POST. We've spent over half a year working on this collection and we're really proud of the final result - but don't take our word for it... read on for more info + demos.

The goal of this project was to create a set of deeply sampled acoustic drumkits inspired by classic 50s, 60s and 70s records and the timeless breakbeats we all know and love. For decades, these sounds have been imitated and sampled over and over, but many producers have preferred to try and capture old kits with pristine, modern recording methods. Not so with this library. Our motto was "the more tubes, the better," and we armed ourselves to the teeth with beat-up mics, analog gear, vintage drums and tape machines.

Key Features:

* Three custom drum kits and a set of percussion recorded at three separate studios
* Only classic kits, gear, mics and techniques used for a true vintage sound.
* 3,500 samples (4gb) of unlocked audio content for your editing pleasure.
* Recorded into Pro Tools|HD in 24/96 format (16/44.1 for NNXT)
* Intensive sampling - a minimum of 5 RRs and 5 velos per kit part, up to 10 RRs and 16 velos!
* Full kit patches AND individual components so you can construct your own Frankenstein kits.
* Custom scripted patches for Kontakt and combis in NN-XT.
* Intuitive GM mapping for compatibility with any project or MIDI.
* Simplified mixing; designed with a great sound right out of the box.
* Additional overhead/room patches for user-controllable ambiance.
* A total of five snares, four kicks, nine toms, three hats (closed, loose, open, pedal), two rides, two crashes, two splashes, two rims, handclaps, tambourine, shaker, agogo, bongos, woodblocks, cowbell and triangle!

A little about the kits...

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"Superfreak" (Milkboy Studios, Ardmore, PA) - As the name suggests, most of this 60s Ludwig 'Silver Comet' kit is rumored to have originally belonged to a certain funk music icon. The drums were recorded using high-end ribbon mics into an all-analog signal path, most notably a 70s Neve console with a few busted channels and lots of character. Outboard processors in the chain included gear by Empirical Labs, Tube-Tech, and Anthony DeMaria Labs. The saturation present on the higher velocities of some of the sounds, like the kick and snare, came solely from high gain running through all the tubes; no overdrive, distortion, or compressor saturation was applied!

"Tape" (The Audio Lab, Milville, NJ) - This one was a real hybrid, the centerpiece being a 30s Ludwig Pioneer Black Beauty snare. The kicks and toms were Tamburo original series, along with an extra 22" Tama kick. Our hats, cymbals and rides were a mishmash of faded, junked up old metal… just what we wanted. Everything in the kit was recorded through an analog signal path then finally to an authentic, 24-track Otari tape machine before being dumped into Pro Tools. Mics used for this kit ranged in age and manufacturer. Various workhorse mics from EV, Sennheiser, Shure and Audix were used throughout, and to get the trashy, crunchy room sound, we used a trashy 70s General Electric cassette recorder mic along with an RCA SK-30.

"Herodotus" (Real Music Media, Minneapolis, MN)) - John Gump (a.k.a. KVRAudio member Herodotus) recorded this drum set, which is the same make and model as Cream drummer Ginger Baker's drums! Mics used were a pair of Neumann KM-184s and Sennheiser 441s plus a Royer R-121. All of this went into some serious outboard gear like a classic UA 1176, Manley Labs VOXBOX, UA 2-610S and Manley Vari-Mu before finally going to a TASCAM reel-to-reel tape machine to seal the deal.

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You can purchase Groove Bias today for a special OCR price of $89 (KT/Hal/EXS) or $79 (NNXT) via PayPal: make sure to use these links as they're for OCR members only!

Purchase -> Kontakt/EXS-24/Halion Version (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5709727)

Purchase -> Reason Version (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5709745)

10% of each sale will be donated to OCR! You'll receive your download link within 24 hours (usually much faster.) While you're waiting, check out the PDF product manual (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/docs/GrooveBias-KT.pdf) and the video/audio demos below!

Live Performance Video Demo (produced by Brandon Bush) (http://vimeo.com/4682836)

Jake Kaufman - "Slap Them Skins" (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_Slap_Them_Skins.mp3) / Drums Only (http://tr.im/mlsY) (classic 60s funk)

Brandon Bush - "Spies Like Us" (Spy Hunter remix) (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_Spies_Like_Us.mp3) / Drums Only (http://tr.im/mlsI) (secret agent funk)

Andrew Aversa - "Ragol Weather" (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_Ragol_Weather.mp3) / Drums Only (http://tr.im/lBpH) (synth/jazz fusion)

Andrew Aversa - "Acoustic DNB" (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_DNB.mp3)

Virt (Jake Kaufman) - "World's Most Wanted Wiener" (GB Edit) (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_Virt_Demo.mp3) (MJ-style funk)

tefnek - "Big n' Nasty" (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_tefnek_Demo.mp3) (big beat)

ps. Thanks to pixietricks (http://www.ocremix.org/artist/4659/pixietricks) for the Groove Bias logo and SgtRama (http://www.ocremix.org/artist/4442/sgtrama) for the product UI!

[superjoe30]

I'd like ogg vorbis format.

[zircon]

Dunno if you're joking or not, but every format of the library will have "unlocked" WAVs that you can do whatever you want with. :) My question is mainly directed towards the sample *programming* format, ie. Battery, NN-XT, Ultrabeat, etc...

[Harmony]

I'm having tons of fun testing out Groove Bias in Kontakt, but I'm sure you know what format I'd love to see: SFZ! Give all the folks out there who want high quality drums samples but can't yet afford a high quality sampler a chance :)

I even did a little research for ya. I ran a quick conversion of a Groove Bias kit from Kontakt to SFZ format using the demo of Extreme Sample Converter (with the files stored as .ogg for superjoe30 :wink:) and in 60 seconds the default settings did a good job of preserving everything except release timings. I'm playing it in SFZ and the sample converter even got the round robins right. Hopefully there's some setting that would give a 100% faithful conversion, but if release times are the only problem, sfzEd is a graphical editor that should (never used it myself) make modifying the release envelopes easier than using a text editor.

[OverCoat]

i'm sold on just the name alone

hahaha

[Skummel Maske]

Our motto was "the more tubes, the better," and we armed ourselves to the teeth with beat-up mics, analog gear, vintage drums and tape machines.

This sounds incredibly fun. I love the concept!

[Cyril the Wolf]

Oh wow. If its possible, it'd be awesome if they could be in SampleTank format. I just use sampletank WAY to much.

[BlackPanther]

Whoa this is sweet. Using this with the NN-XT sampler would be tight since all of my drums go through that. Can't wait till I start gettin some money again xD.

[avaris]

Sounding pretty tight dudes! Good luck!

[LuketheXjesse]

Man this sounds sick. I might have to pick this up, as well as other things from IS :D

[SnappleMan]

Dude, I've been playing with this for a while, it's killer! I'm thoroughly impressed by this library, mainly because it sounds good out of the box (or out of the .rar archive... so to speak...) and yet still has headroom for my own effects and processing (a big FUCK YOU to EZdrummer in that regard...)

Great work so far!

[zircon]

Thanks yo. We're building lots of presets now.

[Dj Mokram]

My question is mainly directed towards the sample *programming* format, ie. Battery, NN-XT, Ultrabeat, etc...

'Battery' format would be awesome, but Kontakt is already nice enough.
This sounds powerful, yet a lot of fun to use, judging by the b-tester's previews.

Hope we'll see the great results next month.
Good preset-building to you!

[Geoffrey Taucer]

I've heard Andy talking about this, but somehow missed this thread up to now.

Sounds like exactly the drum kit I've been looking for for ages! I especially love that vintage snare sound.

Any idea what sort of price range we'd be looking at? I'd love to get this if I can afford it...

[zircon]

Probably gonna be about $99, at least for the preorder.

[prophetik]

i'm interested. definitely looks like something i could use, particularly with what i've been working on lately.

[evktalo]

Sounds great! Finally got around listening to the Impact: Steel demos too, I thought it was a great concept and the demos sound very good. I need enlightenment: what does "deep sampling" mean in this context?

--Eino

[zircon]

It just means we recorded a lot of hits. For example, every single part of the library has a bare minimum of five velocity layers and five round robins, while some parts, like the snares, have ten round robins and eleven or more velocity layers. That's a LOT of samples :)

[zircon]

Bump w/ info about the kits & gear!

"Superfreak" (Milkboy Studios, Ardmore, PA) - As the name suggests, most of this 60s Ludwig 'Silver Comet' kit is rumored to have originally belonged to a certain funk music icon. The drums were recorded using high-end ribbon mics into an all-analog signal path, most notably a 70s Neve console with a few busted channels and lots of character. Outboard processors in the chain included gear by Empirical Labs, Tube-Tech, and Anthony DeMaria Labs. The saturation present on the higher velocities of some of the sounds, like the kick and snare, came solely from high gain running through all the tubes; no overdrive, distortion, or compressor saturation was applied!


"Tape" (The Audio Lab, Milville, NJ) - This one was a real hybrid, the centerpiece being a 30s Ludwig Pioneer Black Beauty snare. The kicks and toms were Tamburo original series, along with an extra 22" Tama kick. Our hats, cymbals and rides were a mishmash of faded, junked up old metal… just what we wanted. Everything in the kit was recorded through an analog signal path then finally to an authentic, 24-track Otari tape machine before being dumped into Pro Tools. Mics used for this kit ranged in age and manufacturer. Various workhorse mics from EV, Sennheiser, Shure and Audix were used throughout, and to get the trashy, crunchy room sound, we used a trashy 70s General Electric cassette recorder mic along with an RCA SK-30.


"Herodotus" (Real Music Media, Minneapolis, MN)) - John Gump (a.k.a. KVRAudio member Herodotus) recorded this drum set, which is the same make and model as Cream drummer Ginger Baker's drums! Mics used were a pair of Neumann KM-184s and Sennheiser 441s plus a Royer R-121. All of this went into some serious outboard gear like a classic UA 1176, Manley Labs VOXBOX, UA 2-610S and Manley Vari-Mu before finally going to a TASCAM reel-to-reel tape machine to seal the deal.

[Hy Bound]

Looks awesome, I may have to pick both this and impact steel up when i get kontakt.

Also, sorry for the noob-ness, but what is a round robin? I've seen that word before, but I don't think I know the real meaning.

[zircon]

Round robins are basically multiple samples on the same key at the same velocity level. So, you can hit velocity 127 five times in a row and hear five different recordings. This makes samples, particularly drums, a lot more realistic because otherwise, even with a lot of velocity levels, something like a hat pattern or snare roll will sound like a 'machine gun' and not a realistic performance.

We have 5-10 RRs per kit part which is definitely nice.

[evktalo]

Thanks for the explanations, zircon :) Info/lore on the sets was cool to read, too.

--Eino

[zircon]

Phew... just spent all day working on Reason patches (they're pretty much all done) and tweaking the final Kontakt patches. Here are some screenies;

http://www.impactsoundworks.com/images/Groove_Bias_K2.PNG
http://www.impactsoundworks.com/images/Groove_Bias_Reason.PNG

[Dyne]

That's epic. Can't wait to hear you use them in a remix or original piece.

[nrich]

oh

my

gawd

those are by far some of THE sexiest acoustic samples i've ever heard

you are saviors among the tubes!

[tweek]

NN-XT sexiness FTW!

[DJ SymBiotiX]

wow thats a massive combi! I'll definitely be picking these up!

[BlackPanther]

Sweet, thank you. Now I just can't wait till I get some money for it haha xD.

[Harmony]

ooohh, nice work on the Kontakt skins!

[zircon]

OCR-ONLY GROOVE BIAS PREORDER OMG!!!!

http://www.impactsoundworks.com/images/groove_bias_logo.jpg

Preorder your copy CHEAP today and receive your download link before everyone else does! Just click on either of the below links to order via PayPal.

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This deal ends May 25th! Don't miss out on 3,500+ samples and gigabytes worth of hella tight vintage drum sounds!

[BardicKnowledge]

I'm having tons of fun testing out Groove Bias in Kontakt, but I'm sure you know what format I'd love to see: SFZ! Give all the folks out there who want high quality drums samples but can't yet afford a high quality sampler a chance :)

Any word on progress towards this? I've heard from you (zircon) that you were looking into it.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

Question: Do both versions allow to select just the wav's themselves? I would assume yes but just wondering.

[zircon]

Yep, the library in ANY format comes with all the WAVs, properly named and categorized by component. For example, the hierarchy of a snare rimshot looks like this:

[Groove Bias] <-- Library name
[Samples] <-- Container for all audio
[Snare 3 Rim] <-- Container for kit component samples
Snare 3 Rim v1 rr1.wav <-- Filename

Very easy to use in any other sampler. :)

As for sfz, it's planned, but not implemented yet. I'm working with the guys from Chicken Systems to get the conversions down.

[Sinewav]

Daaaang. These sound great. I wish I had the money :-(.

[Dafydd]

I would buy these if they automatically made my music sound as awesome as virt's does.

[Harmony]

As for sfz, it's planned, but not implemented yet. I'm working with the guys from Chicken Systems to get the conversions down. sweeeeet :D

[prophetik]

i use fl studio. which would be a better version to get? i have reason but i never use it. would it be worth it to get the kontakt version? what would i need to use that particular version?

[Yoozer]

Seeing that big harddisks are cheap as chips and that $10 more gives you 24/96 it's a no-brainer, really.

http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/plugins/FPC.htm could load 'm up and do what you wanted.

[prophetik]

would i be able to load all the different choices in hits into that, too? i don't know if the fpc allows for multi-sampled hits with the same button.

[Dafydd]

Zircon uses FL himself.

[prophetik]

yeah, but i don't know what he uses for something like this.

[zircon]

If you have Kontakt, I would definitely recommend the Kontakt version since it's already completely programmed. We don't, as of now, have an FPC-specific version. Programming the FPC isn't too hard - it can do multiple velocity layers no problem. However, I don't THINK it can do round robins.

[prophetik]

what do you use? kontakt? i got the player through a deal with another program, but i rarely use it.

[zircon]

I use Kontakt, though the Reason version is pretty awesome, and if I used Reason I'd use that for sure :P You do need the FULL version of Kontakt, not just the player, to use external Kontakt libraries though. Another format possibility for you would be sfz when we finishi that...

[HoboKa]

Confused. How do you use the drum samples?? Do you NEED Kontakt or Reason to use them??

[Zephyr]

They come in multiple formats, you buy the one that best suits what you have, if you have Kontakt, you'd get that one, if you use Reason, then you'd probably get that, or you can use them individually as wav's.

[zircon]

Yep. Every version of the library comes with a massive folder tree of 3,500+ WAVs. Then, you pick the format you want the PATCHES to come in. You load the patches in a sampler so you don't have to manually map all those sounds yourself. In theory you can use the WAVs even if you don't have Kontakt, EXS-24, NN-XT or Halion, but it will be a pain.

[HoboKa]

Yep. Every version of the library comes with a massive folder tree of 3,500+ WAVs. Then, you pick the format you want the PATCHES to come in. You load the patches in a sampler so you don't have to manually map all those sounds yourself. In theory you can use the WAVs even if you don't have Kontakt, EXS-24, NN-XT or Halion, but it will be a pain.

Man I feel extra nub - what is a Patch exactly??

[zircon]

A 'patch' is synonymous with a 'preset'.

[HoboKa]

ah ic. I'll order this pack when I get my next pay cheque :<

[prophetik]

i think i'll order when it's released, so i can pay more money. i want to support you guys.

[zircon]

http://www.vimeo.com/4682836

Live keyboard drumming jam using Groove Bias. Performed, arranged and produced by Harmony!

[Zephyr]

That's incredible! Nice one again! How did you learn to drum like that!?

[Harmony]

:) thanks. Practice practice practice.

[Radiowar]

what

how

what

[avaris]

Hot damn, now that's some sweet finger action. :shock:

http://www.vimeo.com/4682836

Live keyboard drumming jam using Groove Bias. Performed, arranged and produced by Harmony!

[HoboKa]

Hot damn, now that's some sweet finger action. :shock:

I'll bet Pixie's one happy girl :<

[Zephyr]

I hope not, or Harmony and zircon have a few things to discuss outside...

[DJ SymBiotiX]

I'll bet Pixie's one happy girl :<

lol, somebody doesnt know how to read :<

[Dafydd]

lol, somebody doesnt know how to read :<

Either that, or someone's sleeping around.

[Harmony]

You all are reading too far into HoboKa's comment. He was simply saying that Pixie must be incredibly happy at her circumstances right now. Seeing that awesome music video endorsing the product that her loving fiancee is selling, she is now certain that Groove Bias will make Zircon a millionaire and they'll be able to live happily ever after, making songs with phat beatz and shimmering vocals for the world to enjoy.

It's so obvious guys.

[Dafydd]

Ahhh. :oops:

[Palpable]

You all are reading too far into HoboKa's comment. He was simply saying that Pixie must be incredibly happy at her circumstances right now. Seeing that awesome music video endorsing the product that her loving fiancee is selling, she is now certain that Groove Bias will make Zircon a millionaire and they'll be able to live happily ever after, making songs with phat beatz and shimmering vocals for the world to enjoy.

It's so obvious guys.

Yeah, nice try there, cheater. But maybe Andy will forgive you when he does become a millionaire off the basis of this awesome video.

[zircon]

Haha, yeah, it would be nice to be rich from GB. However, somehow, I haven't gotten even a single new order after this video came out despite hundreds of views and heavy promotion on many forums.

C'mon guys! You know you want phat drumz.

[TheKrow]

I promise I'll buy Groove Bias once I finally get Logic Pro 8. It may take a while, but stuff will happen, no worries. I've been looking for some phat drumz recently, as a matter-of-fact.

And for some reason it seems like OCR is a bad place to advertise, which seems totally ridciulous.

[zircon]

Haha, well, I've also posted on KVR, VI-Control, Gearslutz, Taxi, Image-Line, Newgrounds, and Futureproducers... for starters. But I realize that it's also not technically out yet and some people don't like doing preorders. Once we get some reviews and press releases out on the release date, maybe we'll hit it big. ;)

[Harmony]

Haha, yeah, it would be nice to be rich from GB. However, somehow, I haven't gotten even a single new order after this video came out despite hundreds of views and heavy promotion on many forums.
Well, as we all know, this Friday is National Impulse Buy day (a.k.a. payday) so I'd wait until after then to start worrying.

[HoboKa]

You all are reading too far into HoboKa's comment. He was simply saying that Pixie must be incredibly happy at her circumstances right now. Seeing that awesome music video endorsing the product that her loving fiancee is selling, she is now certain that Groove Bias will make Zircon a millionaire and they'll be able to live happily ever after, making songs with phat beatz and shimmering vocals for the world to enjoy.

It's so obvious guys.

Yes...that's what I meant :tomatoface:
Anyhoo...gonna get that damned sample set soon!! Fucking money taking forever to process in my bank T-T

[OA]

If only this came in sound font format...

[zircon]

Don't you have Logic? :P

[avaris]

Don't you have Logic? :P

He's one of those dudes who still has Logic Express 7...:puppyeyes: (i believe EXS24 in Express7 can't load outside samples)

P.S. Sonic State is great advertising place as well when ya release.

[OA]

yeah, Logic 7 is teh pwnz, but Logic 8 is looking better and better.

Maybe if I wasn't paying $1,300 a month in daycare i'd be able to upgrade. ;_;

[TheKrow]

Hey, Harmony, just curious, but can you play that epically on a real drum set? I can, but I don't think I ever could play like that on a piano. All the little finger controls would drive me nuts.

[Harmony]

Maybe if I wasn't paying $1,300 a month in daycare i'd be able to upgrade. ;_; No need to shed tears, my man. I'm sure the happiness of being a wonderful father more than makes up for the ridiculously awesome equipment that you could be buying. I mean, just think of it. That's like a new Les Paul every month! Or, once you get tired of the new guitars, you could be tricking out your studio like nobody's business! WOW! But nah, no tears mate...no tears

Hey, Harmony, just curious, but can you play that epically on a real drum set? I can, but I don't think I ever could play like that on a piano. All the little finger controls would drive me nuts.No, I'm probably better than someone who's never played before, but I basically suck on a real kit. But since you claim epic drumming skills, I say we have a drum off. Keyboard vs. Real Kit to decide the fate of drumming for all eternity! :)

[prophetik]

yeah, harmony, you might be not that great on the kit, but you make up with it by kicking that old japanese dude's ass on the keyboards. and you play hand percussion, which is over nine thousand times better than playing kit. way sexier.

[Harmony]

and small drums called...tom toms!

Hahaha, I can't think of any word to describe that guy as except...adorable. That said, it was pretty sweet when he pulled a triplet tom fill with one hand.

[TheKrow]

No, I'm probably better than someone who's never played before, but I basically suck on a real kit. But since you claim epic drumming skills, I say we have a drum off. Keyboard vs. Real Kit to decide the fate of drumming for all eternity! :)

I'll hit you up on that when I can find time to get to a recording studio, or somehow buy my own equipment. I've been thinking about just getting an electric drumkit to save some hassle, but it's never the same :?

[DJ SymBiotiX]

So I got it this morning, and I finally just now had a chance to look at it. Im curious, how does reason handle the round robins? I took a look at some of the patches and I dont quite understand.

If you could explain it Id appreciate it. Thanks :D

[zircon]

If you have multiple zones + groups mapped to the same key and switch ALT to ON then the samples will intelligently alternate.

[zircon]

Bump since the library is out :) Check the first post for OCR order links (still at $89/99) and a new demo by virt!!

[Dafydd]

Maybe if I wasn't paying $1,300 a month in daycare i'd be able to upgrade. ;_;

Wait, what?

[Harmony]

Jake Kaufman - "Slap Them Skins" (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_Slap_Them_Skins.mp3) / Drums Only (http://tr.im/mlsY) (classic 60s funk)
Amen Break on Groove Bias! Tight work virt.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

Man I need to learn how to process drums now.. lol I cant seem to get these to sound like some of the music samples. I need more learning :P

Edit: lol ok, so after talking to zircon I had some ideas... why dont I scream the shit out of it :P

Here is the result

DJ SymBiotiX - Groove Bias Test 1 (Scream) (http://www.djsbx.com/TEMP/GBTest1.mp3)

haha.. check it out :P.. I promise within a week I'll finish something that sounds super cool (especially since I made this "song" in like15 minutes and didnt really have time to fix anything. Looks like sleep time for me :()

[Shael Riley]

Oh my goodness!

Look how far our little in-joke has come. :)

Zircon, you've made me happy.

[deftflux]

I apologize if I reiterate anything here... I read through most but not all of the 9 pages of responses...

So let me see if I got this right. Both versions consist of A) WAV files and B) patches for certain programs to load them in. The Reason version is $10 cheaper because it is 16bit/44.1kHz instead of 24bit/96kHz. (I presume because Reason cannot handle 24/96?)

Now to the point: I don't have any of the programs for which there are patches, and have no interest in getting them. Are the WAV files at least organized into folders? Is there any kind of naming convention otherwise? Seeing as they are percussive samples, I'm assuming I wouldn't have to worry about loop points, right?


From the demos it seems like a great old school kit. Too bad I'm not into that style, but I'm thinking these might be great source material for distorting and mangling into phat electronic sounds. One thing electronic misses a lot is a grungy, dirty sound since everything tends to be crisp and clean. Throwing some analog recorded acoustic samples would help mix it up. Thanks.

[LuigiFan]

I absolutely LOVED the Spies video. Just wanted to say that.

[José the Bronx Rican]

I'm determined now.
I saw Harmony's video a while back and was disgustingly impressed with his playing, but I finally got around to checking out the details of this product, and it seems incredible and right up my production alley. I'm also thinking this is the best way right now to return a favor from Dave.

I can't use any of the mentioned formats, either, but one thing about Soundfonts, FYI: provided the WAV names are reasonably detailed, and you have the latest Vienna software, you can use a freeware app like Renamer to quickly change the filenames to those recognized by Vienna, and then building a soundfont is as easy as loading all the relevant samples in one step. If/when I get this, I'll see about instructions for those who want to do the same.

[Harmony]

Sweet, front page video pimpage! :D

I absolutely LOVED the Spies video. Just wanted to say that.I saw Harmony's video a while back and was disgustingly impressed with his playingThanks :)

I don't have any of the programs for which there are patches, and have no interest in getting them. Are the WAV files at least organized into folders? Is there any kind of naming convention otherwise? I can't use any of the mentioned formats, either, … Soundfonts The folder and naming scheme is very logical and easy to follow so if you had the raw samples, it would be incredibly easy to pick through them and throw them into whatever sampler you want. However, zircon mentioned the possibility of getting this converted to SFZ which would solve both of you guys’ problem. The player is free, the format is even more customizable than soundfonts, and in my experience, the format handles most of the features of the Kontakt library perfectly.
I'm thinking these might be great source material for distorting and mangling into phat electronic sounds. tefnek’s demo (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/audio/demos/Groove_Bias_-_tefnek_Demo.mp3) is crazy phat, check that out if you haven’t already.

[zircon]

Harmony pretty much summed it up. The file structure is like this:

Groove Bias
-> Samples (directory with 100+ folders, each representing a kit part)
--> Crash 2
---> Crash 2 v2 rr3.wav

So, you pick the kit part that you want, then you can grab any velocity or round robin. They're ALL named very consistently because I hate when developers just go Snare_1 Snare_2 Snare_3 etc. Room or overhead patches are marked with "RM" or "OH" to differentiate from the close hits. :)

Another format coming soon is Battery 3. Battery is very cheap these days, usually $99 or less in and of itself, and is a great drum sample player.

[marcio772]

good luck.

[MichaelTheCrow]

Another format coming soon is Battery 3. Battery is very cheap these days, usually $99 or less in and of itself, and is a great drum sample player.

That's great news, I purchased Battery 3 and it arrived yesterday(still nowhere near getting the hang of it yet), I might consider getting Groove Bias sometime soon, what I've heard so far is flawless.

[zircon]

For anybody who wants to try out Groove Bias, you can now pick up the GB Tape Kit Mini in Kontakt format for FREE!

http://www.impactsoundworks.com/products/groove-bias-mini/

The Tape Kit Mini contains all the components found in the full Tape Kit patch - kicks, snares, hats, toms, overheads/room mics, and cymbals - but with only one velocity and round robin per part. The full version has anywhere from 40 to 150 samples per kit part, but the Mini is still fun to play with. You'll get a good idea of the tone of this particular kit, and you're free to use it in any of your productions. We've also included the FULL version of the Tape Kit ride patch, including its room mic.

While these particular patches are Kontakt 2 format, since there are only a small amount of actual WAVs, you can easily program them for use in any sampler.

*** Remember, this is just a SMALL fraction of the sounds contained within the full version of Groove Bias (http://www.impactsoundworks.com/products/groove-bias-vintage-drum-sounds)! ***

Enjoy!

[prophetik]

this question might have already been answered, so sorry if it has been.

if i want to buy both versions of the kit, is there a way i can do this? like, i'd like it in both formats - i don't need the samples in both formats, but i'd like both sets of presets and all that. would i have to buy the whole set twice, or is there a package deal?

this isn't going to be immediate, but when my XBLA game gets funding from a publisher i get a pretty large budget for samples and stuff, and i planned on picking up all three sound libraries from you guys.

edit: you might want to update the front page of your website - it still says that Groove Bias is 'coming soon' with a release date that was about a month ago.

[zircon]

Oops, right, forgot to edit that image.

If you buy the Kontakt version we can give you the Reason version free - that's no problem.

[prophetik]

oh, hey, that's not bad. i'll plan on that then, and i'll let you know when i order.

[Matt E. Waldman]

I'm currently downloading the GB Tape Kit Mini, and if I like what I hear, I think I'll go ahead and purchase the real deal! :D I can't wait to try this out.

[zircon]

Cool - feel free to ask me any questions :)

[zircon]

Computer Music magazine rated Groove Bias 8/10 in a recent issue!

“This set of three virtual drum kits and one percussion kit is designed to recreate the vintage sound heard on countless classic breakbeats, and is based around a 4GB [collection] of drum samples recorded with dozens of velocity and round-robin variations. The result is kits that are essentially simple - you don’t get a huge variety of sounds, despite teh size of the library - but sound authentic and phat when programmed via MIDI… Overall, this is a good library that makes a decent alternative to virtual drum software. 8/10″ - Computer Music Magazine (issue 141)

We also got a 9/10 review on an online sample library review site, Waveformless (http://waveformless.blogspot.com/):

If you’ve been frustrated trying to find these types of vintage drum sounds, you probably didn’t even bother reading this far and have already placed your order. But for those who need further convincing, just take a listen to the demos on Impact Soundworks’ website. These kits are certainly a worthy addition to the library of anyone seeking that sound, but clearly this is a library that drummers will get the most enjoyment out of given the range of expression that is possible with disciplined playing technique. Regardless of your level of ability, however, this is a great sounding collection of the types of drums that aren’t exactly abundant on the sample library market these days.

[Nutritious]

Computer Music magazine rated Groove Bias 8/10 in a recent issue!

Congrats! Now you just need to get a GB demo on the sample CD :smile:

[HoboKa]

Cool - feel free to ask me any questions :)

Er, yeah how do you load it on to Korg Player?? Or do I need a different program?