Chrono Trigger: Chrono Symphonic - History [Archive] - Page 2

SirRus

11-07-2004, 05:46 PM

Alright then, just Zeal for me until others get around to claiming songs. Also, thanks for sending me the script portion Claado, but am I blind or where do I find these short snippets on the scene with the recommended song lengths that Ben has been quoting? I don't know where the song length can be found for the Zeal scene...

Edit - Although looking over the list and how many have been finished/reserved for other people in conjunction with how many mixers there are (11)... it will be about 2/person, and that's why I chose 2 scenes to work with. But I agree, we should let the others get a shot at picking their first choices before we claim our second choices (who didn't get here early enough! I respect Emperor for be here before everyone, as I assume his time zone made that kind of difficult...)

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 05:49 PM

Alright then, just Zeal for me until others get around to claiming songs. Also, thanks for sending me the script portion Claado, but am I blind or where do I find these short snippets on the scene with the recommended song lengths that Ben has been quoting? I don't know where the song length can be found for the Zeal scene...

In the first post there's a link to the OST listing, which has everything Ben has been quoting. Plus, you don't have to give up your other song if you don't want...I just wanna make sure that accepted mixers have the opportunity to do some mixing. 8)

Blake

11-07-2004, 06:57 PM

SCENE: At the End of Time, Gaspar explains to them the Conservation of
Time, the three gurus, the ancient kingdom of Zeal, and about the curse of Lavos. Lucca decides to stay behind and investigate
the area while the others go to 12,000 B.C.

SONGS: The Brink of Time
LENGTH: 5:30

I'll gladly take the song "End of Time", and I think you're assuming the song "End of Time" by mentioned "Brink of Time"^^^^^. :P

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 07:12 PM

Alright, 11 songs and nearly 45 minutes of music left to claim. Any other takers?

sephfire

11-07-2004, 07:16 PM

C'mon, Unknown, where are ya....

:wink:

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 07:23 PM

C'mon, Unknown, where are ya....

:wink:

I feel the same way. But about all 6 of those who haven't shown up.

ellywu2

11-07-2004, 07:34 PM

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 07:39 PM

Hi hi, sorry im so late, had to reformat my computer!
I'd like to work on either song 10 or 11, i.e frogs theme and 600ad. Mainly due to the fact i've worked on them before, so i can delve more deeply into them, that and last night i was screwing around with frogs theme and discovered my secret love for brass

Oooooooh...Ben's already claimed both of those songs. As well as #9, the Zombor/Frog scene. Sorry.

#8, the song playing while in Guardia Castle, will obviously have a lot of brass in it (think imperial), as well as #18, the scene in which Crono and the others destroy the Mammon Machine. Both of those are still open (if you're looking for suggestions, that is). But please, for now, only choose one song to do. That'll make it easier for others to choose their songs.

EDIT: I can't believe nobody's chosen to do #16, the scene with Schala. I thought something like that would go rather quickly. Hmm.

sephfire

11-07-2004, 07:43 PM

You may want to PM some of the other remixers in case they forgot or haven't seen the thread in a while and aren't up to speed.

ellywu2

11-07-2004, 07:47 PM

Erm, well in that case you guys can choose something for me, nothing else really inspires me :(

EDIT: Screw it, i'll do schala if you want?

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 07:47 PM

You may want to PM some of the other remixers in case they forgot or haven't seen the thread in a while and aren't up to speed.

Good idea. Let me do that.

PLBenjaminZ

11-07-2004, 08:11 PM

get ready for long post time! :twisted: Okay...
*attempts to transform into a smart person* 8O
...

I’ve been having a problem with planning on how to arrange music for these scenes… I believe that the script doesn’t go along very well with the music OST time restraints that have been planned; the estimated times for the songs seem incorrect to a great extent. For example, in Scene’s ten and eleven, there is large amount of events which take place that I’m sure cannot be fit into a time span of only four minutes and thirty seconds (unless they talk super fast and A LOT of emotional charge is taken out).

These events include climbing the Denadoro Mountains while Marle is hurt (and this part of the script is pretty long, by the way), meeting Masa and Mune, actually fighting them, followed by the two transforming into ‘Masamune’, fighting a bit more, then talking some more. Then, they are taken out of the Denadoro Mountains by wind to where Frog is located, the Frog vs. Chrono w/ Masamune part on the bridge is shown, Masamune talks to Frog, and Frog demonstrates the Masamunes power. As I already said, I don’t believe all these events can be shown in a mere four minutes and thirty seconds without dumping out a lot of emotional charge.

I’ve been thinking about this, and I have come up with a proposition… I think that we should change the format of how the OST should be done. I think we should just create fully extended versions of our remixes/arrangements and ignore the time restraint. The project should be done so that it can adapt to the emotional charge the movie intends to portray.

Why? First of all, I think several of the given time restraints are not proportional to the actual amount of time in the script, once again as already mentioned. Also, I believe that by doing it this way, the music can adapt to changes in script (and I believe there should be many changes in the script by the way). Another reason I believe ignoring time constraints is it would make this project a lot easier on the people remixing/rearranging the music.

Basically what I mean in the previous paragraph is that I’m not particularly fond of the script as it currently is, and even if we were to correct the time restraints given to something reasonable, it would be a pain in the ass for everyone to rework their arrangement due to a change in script.

The reason why I brought this up is because we haven’t really started the remixing stage yet, and can still effectively make changes to the structure of how this project should be done without any unnecessary work (working on a remix for a long time and then finding we need to start over…).

I think we should do this project by remixing the many songs in Chrono Trigger individually, with variations of certain songs if need be. For example, I planned on doing two different variations of Frog’s Theme in the scenes I selected; the first to introduce Frog as he was “kicking Zombor’s ass”, and the second variation to play while Frog was demonstrating the Masamune’s power.

The reason I came up with this is because while reading the script to plan out what I wanted to do, I found myself going through too many transitions in songs in order to fit the mood.It shouldn’t be the remixer’s problem to adapt the music to the scene, at least not until the movie is actually being made, complete with a reworked and mastered script. I don’t think the movie is even going to be made anyway (at least not anytime soon). We should just enjoy creating remixes/arrangements in an orchestrated manner, and not worry about the music fitting with the script.

*reverts back to retarded self*
damn i'm out of power to go super saiyen :P
AAAaaAaNyWaYz i wrote WAAaAaay tOOo much! i have more to say but i have to go to church now so if i still remember what i want to say by the time i get back i’ll bring it up. Sorry if what i wrote doesn’t even make sense, i typed it kind of quickly :P

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 08:14 PM

Erm, well in that case you guys can choose something for me, nothing else really inspires me :(

EDIT: Screw it, i'll do schala if you want?

I'm sorry to hear you've lost your initiative. Remember, you can use any source song you want in the piece, as long as you're reasonable. Schala's Theme can switch to Undersea Palace and then to Frog's Theme, if you really want. As long as it's good as a single piece and it fits with the script, anything goes. Do it however you'd like.

I'm not saying this to berate you; I just want to let you know that even with your preferred pieces already chosen by someone else, there's still a reason to be inspired. So don't make any more frowning smiley faces (if that paradox is even possible).

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 08:29 PM

Sorry to douse your long-ass post, Ben, but ignoring the script is like going into battle without any ammo...there's no point.

As for the time restraint thing, your particular scenes do fit rather well in 4:30. Mainly because the entire part from where they first enter the tunnel to the point where Crono retrieves the Masamune (3 or 4 minutes of screen time) is not covered by music. Remember, there are plenty of times in movies where no background music plays at all. Silence is a huge factor in making the music for a movie that much more enjoyable and powerful.

So yes, if you look at the script (as I PMed it to you), 4:30 works quite well (1 page of formatted script = 1 minute of screen time). Sorry to be a spoilsport, and sorry to just toss aside your comment, but it's necessary.

BTW: When I referred to editing the script, I meant for revising dialogue (which does not affect the music any), and also perhaps adding scenes if needed. Neither of these will play a role in the actual ST, as additional scenes can be composed for and dialogue can simply be replaced. As long as the music portrays the ACTION of the script, then there's no need for concern.

Besides, to be absolutely honest, IF the movie ever gets made (which I doubt), it'll probably be best for a single person to re-orchestrate the ST (using the songs of this project as the foundation for the new ones), in order to have the most realistic effect possible, at which time any indiscrepancies may be dealt with. This is not to say the project is useless, because as the script stands, these pieces will be perfect enhancers. It's just that I'm sure when the details are finally visually realized, the music may not be entirely accurate anymore, and somebody will need to tweak what music has already been made.

Don't let this deter you, however, from making your best effort. This ST will still be a great collaboration of many wonderful pieces, and I'm sure yours will be at least one of them. Cheers. :)

sephfire

11-07-2004, 08:33 PM

I see what Ben is saying to some extent. I agree that cramming a certain amount of creativity into a small time frame can be demanding. However, I also think it's unreasonable to put NO time limitations, as we're trying to create a CD format soundtrack here (which is already slated to be too large for just one disc).

I'm more inclined to side with Claado on this issue, as this is how he organized things from the start and we've all had fair warning. It isn't like we have to write in dynamics for every single line each character speaks. Just try to find the changes in emotional tension (or the "beats" if you're into theater at all) and organize around those. Do what you can with what you have.

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 08:40 PM

SirRus

11-07-2004, 08:41 PM

Yeah, the whole concept of "film scoring" is what really boosted this projects appeal for me in the first place. True, GrayLightning and other very liberal and expolorative remixers like yourself Ben would be turned off by soome of these contstraints, but I found it to be a good exercise and challenge even to design my music around certain criteria. Just a matter of perspective really... you made some good points, but I hope you are still willing to work within the guidelines Claado set out, cause in my opinion, that's the fun part.

Yeah, so I hope all the tracks get assigned today - is Darkesword just contributing his Millenial Fair song or did he agree to work on another one for the project specifically? Just curious.

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 08:44 PM

Yeah, so I hope all the tracks get assigned today - is Darkesword just contributing his Millennial Fair song or did he agree to work on another one for the project specifically? Just curious.

As far as I know, he's still going to participate. I accepted his Millennial Fair song as an audition piece and it fit the 1000 A.D. scene well enough that I just decided to ease the remixing load of others. But I certainly hope he's going to continue his part in this project.

SirRus

11-07-2004, 08:49 PM

umm hey Claado, I just remembered I have made one other CT mix besides the one I did for the audition. It was Guardia Castle, with Secret Forest mixed into the intro/outro. It has some sax and a little piano, but other than those two instruments all orchestral. If you like it, I could go back and rework it (I made it quite a long time ago, and have learned a lot more since then). Thing is, I find it perfect for this movie type project, since when I made it I had a story in my head and was trying to narrate that (you can read about that on the vgmix write up):

Storming Castle Guardia (http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=1889)

Let me know what you think about that idea. I won't really be offended if you don't like it, or would prefer a totally different take on the song. Just thought I would mention it.

Rellik

11-07-2004, 08:50 PM

I think I'd like the Ocean Palace one... more details later (don't have time to flesh it out now, but I just wanted to reserve this one :P).

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 08:57 PM

I think I'd like the Ocean Palace one... more details later (don't have time to flesh it out now, but I just wanted to reserve this one :P).

Alright, I put you down for #18 (it's the one where Crono and the others meet Melchior and attack the Mammon Machine). If you actually meant #19, the one where the Black Omen rises into the sky, lemme know so I can change it.

And about your song, SirRus...it was good until you had some strange samples pop in there, which totally ruined the feel. I know you made this a long time ago, and you won't feel bad if I don't like it. So...I don't like it. :wink:

sephfire

11-07-2004, 09:23 PM

BTW, if no one goes for them, I'm still interested in the "Crisis" theme and also the "Morning Sunlight" tracks. And I'd love to collaborate on either or both if someone wants. ^^

ellywu2

11-07-2004, 09:33 PM

Erm, i'll collaborate on one if you want mate? so far i'm only doing 6minutes, so i feel i should contribute a bit more.

SirRus

11-07-2004, 10:40 PM

I know you made this a long time ago, and you won't feel bad if I don't like it. So...I don't like it. :wink:

Haha, not a problem bro, I don't especially like it all that much anymore either, I was just considering if I should try my hand at that song again or not. Really wasn't wanting to spend too much time on that one (it wasn't one of my top choices) so I'll let someone else do a much better job with it.

So I'm down for Zeal right now.. that's like 2 minues of song. If I can claim another song right now I'd like to also do The Epoch song still, but I can hold out on that and see if some of the other mixers are going to claim it. I really would like to see them put their names to some of these songs since I am a fan of all of their stuff and am more excited to hear their takes on them than my own, haha.

PLBenjaminZ

11-07-2004, 11:08 PM

yeah i think i went overboard on my post, in short all id really like to know is what part you want to emphasize in the music for scene ten and eleven... the entire part from where they first enter the tunnel to the point where Crono retrieves the Masamune (3 or 4 minutes of screen time) is not covered by music
that's a shame because all of those scenes have a lot of potential for great remixes/arrangements :(
I came up with this for those particular scenes: My Plan for Scenes 9-11 (Rough Draft) (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/plbenjaminz/scene9-11plan.doc) *Right Click / Save As* Please
and all those ideas just don't fit into the fixed amount of time

pretty much what i'm thinking is that scene 10 and 11 should be split into three scenes instead of just two because remixing the fight versus masa and mune would just be awesome :D oh well maybe i'm asking for too much, i'll guess just have to work with the time you listed

I found it to be a good exercise and challenge even to design my music around certain criteria. Just a matter of perspective really... you made some good points, but I hope you are still willing to work within the guidelines Claado set out, cause in my opinion, that's the fun part.

yeah i totally agree with this, it does give it a challenge, which makes it all the more fun

sorry for trying to make a big deal out of it :)

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 11:09 PM

Alright...I'll put you, SirRus, down for the Epoch song. I'll reserve the Crisis and Morning Sunlight songs for you, sephfire, and await your final decision. But I can't promise that you'll keep them...if somebody else asks for them specifically, then they're taken.

Also, as soon as all of the pieces are claimed, I'm PMing a site mod to get this placed in the Site Projects forum. I already have an official name for the project (Kong in Concert, Relics of the Chozo, etc.)...but you'll just have to wait to see what it is until it's a Site Project. :D

To Ben...I looked at the document and then at the OST listing. While I do believe that you can effectively do all of the things I had originally planned for those pieces in the 8:30-9:00 allotted, with the way you have it working out, the product should be closer to 14:00-15:00. So if you really want to do it that way...we have the extra space on the ST. Go ahead.

BTW, that's a lot to handle. So many songs...are you sure you'll be able to pull it off?

ellywu2

11-07-2004, 11:30 PM

Okey dokey, my first work in progress, pretty much the beginning of my piece. Basically i sat down and had a good brainstorm about the whole song, and after reading through the OST listing and script outline i had a basic vision in my head of what was happening. Which is kinda wierd for me, because usually i dont think about my music.

Ok

0-10 seconds - standing outside the door to schalas room.

10-40 seconds - approaching schala, more hurriedly etc. Probably with some action shots or something.

40-1:02 schala turns towards them and you see her face, hence the music.

1:02 onwards, introduction of the party, camera on frog?

ok, basically thats what i though of so far. I'm working on another part of it as we speak, so if you guys want me to i can upload that soon enough.

(oh yeah remember this is very very very first impressions.)

http://www.soundclick.com/util/DownloadSong.cfm?ID=1762703

PLBenjaminZ

11-07-2004, 11:30 PM

nah i'll just let scene 11 go so that i can focus more on improving scenes 9 and 10
someone else can do scene 11, i'm pretty sure someone would like that, and it gives more options open to the people who haven't even picked yet

BTW, that's a lot to handle. So many songs...are you sure you'll be able to pull it off?

yeah i was like 'holy crap' after i looked back on what i planned, and when i came up with 'this can't fit in 2 minutes!' i decided to write that long post :wink:

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 11:44 PM

Well, Ben, I'm sorry to hear you give up on that piece. And after such a hard-fought battle, too...

Mr. Wu, I like the piece, and I can fit it to the visual in the script, just not the visual you give, that's all. I would highly suggest you read the script portion it covers in order to see what's really going on. That way you won't be disappointed when I say it doesn't fit.

Good job, otherwise. Very evocative.

SirRus

11-07-2004, 11:46 PM

yeah sounds nice so far Mr. Wu (does it bother you that we call you that now? haha) you have a way with them strings.

Claado Shou

11-07-2004, 11:54 PM

Oh, and by the way, in case anybody was confused as to the restrictions placed on this project...every song submitted to this effort can be used however you like. I had a remixer earlier that wanted my permission to submit their piece to VGMix, and I told them what I'm going to tell you:

If you want to submit your song to OCR or VGMix or anything else, please do so. Just realize that it will be forever known that it was made for this project, and will be smiled upon for all eternity. AMEN.

Sleepy Emp

11-08-2004, 01:20 AM

Ok. Sorry it took me so long to reply - time zones suck. Ben, you may take Lavos Battle if you want. I realise I claimed it four minutes before the official mixing stage started. As for me, I can take the "First Transportation" scene.

Claado Shou

11-08-2004, 01:33 AM

Ah. That was very nice of you, Emperor. I'll put you down for the other piece and open up the slot for the Lavos Battle. Very chivalrous of you.

ALSO: I PMed Protricity about making this a Site Project, and I hope he permits it. I also asked him not to move it into the other forum until every mixer has had the chance to claim their pieces and knows about the move, so don't expect this to get up and transfer over there anytime soon.

Additionally, with the official name of the project decided, I need somebody to help me create a new banner, an official banner for the project. Any volunteers, please PM me and we can get started immediately.

~.C.S.~

PLBenjaminZ

11-08-2004, 02:29 AM

ohh sweet, I'd like to take Scene 23 :) *goes back to doing homework*

eDiT: okay i just went through the thread and i saw sephire wanted to do the ones i randomly picked because i didn't get what i wanted so i guess i'll drop scene 10 as well and let ellywu2 take them :D

and yeah, i'm very very very happy now, thanks emperor :D

another edit: i was going to say i wanted 9 still but nevermind actually i'll just drop scene 9, 10, and 11, and just wait until everyone's picked before selecting another one (wow i changed scenes like 497 times today sorry lol)

and i see Claado Shou is constantly hard at work keeping everything updated on the first page, keep it up (and sorry for editing this post literally 14 times LoL) :wink:

ellywu2

11-08-2004, 03:18 AM

Erm, in light of all this, would it be possible to switch to frogs intervention? if its too much hassle dont worry about it.

Claado Shou

11-08-2004, 03:20 AM

Erm, in light of all this, would it be possible to switch to frogs intervention? if its too much hassle dont worry about it.

Would you like to keep the Schala song as well, or no?

DarkeSword

11-08-2004, 05:54 AM

I'm alive. I'll pick tracks once you guys are all settled on yours.

sephfire

11-08-2004, 06:12 AM

Whew. Switchin and swappin every which way. :lol:

Just to reiterate, if anyone desires to take track 7 - "Crisis" or track 20 - "Morning Sunlight" from me, they are welcome. If they want to work together with me on one, even better (repeating myself...). :D

EDIT: Ellywu2, if either of those sound appealling to you, let me know. What software do you use?

SirRus

11-08-2004, 06:20 AM

Darke - haha glad to see you're alive, what a gentleman, taking whatever is left :wink:

Seph, didn't Emperor or ellywu say they would be willing to collab with you earlier? If that didn't work out, I'd be more than happy to switch from Epoch to one of those two and collab with you, I haven't ever done a collab project and I think it would be pretty cool. I'm a Reason user like you too. This of course, would only complicate the shuffling of tracks around for Claado... yikes.

Sleepy Emp

11-08-2004, 06:28 AM

Claado Shou, now that I'm working on #4 and #24, could you point out my script sections, please? You've sent me a combined section for #23 and #24 earlier this day, but that one is no longer valid :)

Claado Shou

11-08-2004, 12:38 PM

Damn, people. When are you going to give me a break? :wink:

Alright, let me try and get this thing back on track...

DarkeSword - I would suggest choosing tracks now so that everybody else knows what they can't do. Maybe that would lessen the confusion a bit.

sephfire

11-08-2004, 03:33 PM

SirRus: Sure, that sounds cool. Another Reason user would make things much simpler. If you have a preference between the two, let me know. I can do one with you and one with ellywu2 if that works for everybody.

I guess you and ellywu can work out who collabs on which? Once you do I guess that's two more Claado can check off the list.

ellywu2

11-08-2004, 03:54 PM

Hey hey everyone. Well, if i do a collab with sephfire, i doubt i can do schalas theme as well as 10-11, due to university work etc.

Oh, i use FLstudio 4 sephfire

Claado Shou

11-08-2004, 04:04 PM

Alright, this = confusing. How's about everybody works things out (by PM, preferably) and then posts in here with their final lineups? That way, I can keep the edit count on the front page below 100. :)

Rellik

11-09-2004, 12:49 AM

Ok, I've got some questions about the actual music process.

From thinking about it, it seems like the reasonable course of action is to just make a mix as if we were just mixing for fun. Of course, follow the GENERAL theme of the passages, but we can't exactly follow the script down to the detail because it's not even finalized, and the time aspect can only be determined once it's actually filmed, and since it won't be actually filmed (at the very least we're doing this before that happens :P) so it's probably a better idea just to make a mix of the themes in question with an eye towards the contents of the themes.

Is this what you have in mind, Claado?

AlwaysPuft11

11-09-2004, 01:03 AM

Heyheyhey-- from one HUGE CT fan (i've been a fan/player of the game for the past... hm... since 95, anyways), and let me be just one more person to say... Wow!

Man, don't you all just hate me for this? Especially since I don't mix well at all... but still. Very nice work that I've seen so far. The script= awesome (even if Robo and Ayla were left out), and all of the mixes I've heard so far are amazing (presently listening to Unknown's Predetermination-- nice work, man).

Somebody way back mentioned a sound-play (like a radio show) of the script. I'm an actor, and may even be pursuing a career in voice-acting (go figure!), and would love to help out in any way, if'n you do decide to go ahead with that idea. It'd be neat.

(Once again, sorry for posting even though I have nothing to contribute to the music-making process... :oops: You all rock so hard )[/i]

PLBenjaminZ

11-09-2004, 03:04 AM

From thinking about it, it seems like the reasonable course of action is to just make a mix as if we were just mixing for fun. Of course, follow the GENERAL theme of the passages, but we can't exactly follow the script down to the detail because it's not even finalized, and the time aspect can only be determined once it's actually filmed, and since it won't be actually filmed (at the very least we're doing this before that happens ) so it's probably a better idea just to make a mix of the themes in question with an eye towards the contents of the themes.

lol... sounds a lot like what i was trying to say three pages ago :P

Rellik

11-09-2004, 03:15 AM

Rellik

11-09-2004, 03:30 AM

Yep, that's basically what you said, except I think the wrong conclusion was made at the end of the discussion. In general, yes, the music doesn't have to follow everything down the line; and yet, it sort of does. No matter how good you are at estimating how long things will take, the movie would not line up anywhere near perfectly with the soundtrack... thus spoiling the entire effect and sort of eliminating the purpose and sort of making a mockery of the soundtrack (there's a reason film-scorers go to such great lengths to sync up the video and the music :P it really does make a difference).

Then there's the fact that it really is background music, mostly, after all. Listening to ellywu's WiP, it's pretty great stuff :D but just listen to exactly what it's doing with the tempo changes and the theme changes. If the action on screen weren't synced up perfectly with this, it would just fall flat out and flop. And since it's trying to be background music to a scene, it ends up being relatively disjointed as a standalone piece of music. And thus I kind of feel like... well, you know what I'm saying. I don't want to act like I'm all negative about the project, just interested in seeing what other people have to say about the issue.

Claado Shou

11-09-2004, 04:11 AM

The basic premise is this: whatever is happening on screen/paper, imagine what kind of emotion is thrumming throughout the scene, and make music to fit that. That's all. Nothing action-specific is necessary...you don't have to have a bass drum for every sword strike, just make sure that the music fits the mood. Make the song active and upbeat, like battle music would be.

Let's put it this way: imagine that as you're playing Chrono Trigger the game, the music changed according to what was going on. You're climbing Death Peak, and the music is dark, with a hint of percussion, to add suspense. You see your first Lavos Spawn, and suddenly it picks up speed, as the player gets on the edge of their seat for a battle. Then it slowly segues into a fast-paced action song, complete with a tremolo section at the end for the creature's death.

That's what we're aiming for - scene enhancers. Nothing incredibly complex, just good, clean, well-produced orchestral that complements the movie's goings-on. Do that, and you're good.

Collaborator

11-09-2004, 09:11 AM

Hahahahahahahh...hah..ha.

Oh dear lord.

-The Collab

Protricity

11-09-2004, 05:57 PM

Thats what I said.

SilentMartyr

11-09-2004, 08:09 PM

Hey Claado If you want I could help out for the banner/CD cover for the thingy. I made my sig and I have a bunch of other stuff I have done. I can send you/show you my "portfolio" if youd like. Also I have a craaazy idea but ill tell it to you later, I wanna see if youre down with me doin this first.

11-10-2004, 05:21 PM

hi there!

Claado, i'm interested in tracks #8 (Guardia Castle) and #11 (The Masamune). Hope that'll be alright, i haven't read all posts so i don't know if someone asked for those yet.

I'll also make a remastered version of Darkest Omen if possible.

cheers,

mv

Claado Shou

11-10-2004, 05:38 PM

Very cool, mv. I'll sign you up immediately.

sephfire

11-10-2004, 06:42 PM

Sweet. I was hoping mv would be joining. :D

/cheer

EDIT:
Just uploaded a new version of Inciting Incident (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/inciting_incident_2.mp3). Nothing new in the arrangement, just remastered a bit to work on stereo widening, etc. Can anyone give me some suggestions? I'd like to get this down before starting on any of the others.

ellywu2

11-11-2004, 09:59 AM

http://www.dsokids.com/2001/dso.asp?PageID=145

Might be of help to help get the orchestra sound whilst mastering :)

EDIT: well, i actually looked at it myself, and it is really really simplified, so i'm sure you could google up a better one if you looked.

Claado Shou

11-11-2004, 12:38 PM

Alright, so I'm looking at deadlines. Something really simple, just to keep the process moving along. How about this:

-All selected tracks must show some progress by December 1.

I don't really want to go any further than that, since there's always the chance that more songs will be chosen by people already doing mixes. So yeah...whatcha think?

sephfire

11-11-2004, 05:47 PM

Fair enough. I was actually planning on starting work with the Magus Battle tonight sometime, but I'll first make some changes based on that chart ellywu2 posted. Thanks for that BTW, it'll be very helpful. :wink:

Still sorting out collaboration deals with a couple people. I'll post here when we figure it out Claado.

PLBenjaminZ

11-11-2004, 10:34 PM

yaay veteran's day! = days off from school!

now i can finally get started on my scene :D

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eDiT: okay so I worked on my scene like all afternoon and I'm hella tired now; I kind of ran out of brain power on what to do with this song for today so I'm going to sleep (I gotta get some rest because I have to go fail my driving test tomorrow :))

here's what I got so far (pretty much just the beginning):
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/plbenjaminz/The_Final_Battle.mp3
*Right Click/Save As Please*

hope ya like it... the base drum in the slow section is SUPPOSED to represent a pulsing heart-beat but I don't know how to make it sound like that yet lol...
let me know what you guys think of it so far, and tell me if I need to make changes in the style or just start over... (I'm not sure if it fits the guidelines on what instruments can/cannot be used, and how it's arranged)
thanks

oh yeah, and I just switched to using Cubase because the other program I used was 'gay' and it would literally take me four hours to do one hours worth of work, so I'm like n00b at this program; still finding out how to work it lol... and how are you supposed to do crescendos with samples :?

....one more thing... if no one is planning on taking Scene 10 (Mt. Denadoro Climb), I'd like to take that scene as well. I think it would be better if I worked on two mixes at the same time because it gets annoying listening to one song over and over and over and over again. :wink:

okay nite

sephfire

11-12-2004, 02:41 PM

Ok Claado we've sorted a few more tracks out for you:

"A Shot of Crisis" - ellywu2 & sephfire
"Morning Sunlight" - SirRus & sephfire

I think these plus my solo track should be enough to keep me busy.

Claado Shou

11-12-2004, 05:36 PM

Wow, Ben. That's hella awesome. Let me repeat, hella awesome. Yes, your instrument choice is nice, as well as the pause and the speed-up - very dramatic, though I would prefer if the volume stayed at a constant level the entire time, instead of fading out in the middle. The scene can definitely be suited to fit this music.

Just remember that the song needs to stay within time limit and should have the slowdown after Lavos is defeated, plus the faster pace as they escape the crumbling Black Omen and watch it fall into the ocean. Keep that in mind, and this is a definite keeper.

Alright, seph, I'll put that up on the front page. I've been working on some Halo stuff (not just the game) and was enthralled by it. G'luck, mate.

ellywu2

11-12-2004, 11:11 PM

Ok, the first look of my wip :)
I was working on it tonight, just having a mess around, trying to go for a hans zimmer/Rome total war kind of sound. It's meant to sound heroic towards the end :)
Its scene number 9, near the end of it. It doesnt include frog saving the gang, i have to work out that bit a bit better.
This is done using the OST listing (claado could you send me the script part for scene 9?) and its easily fiddled around to fit the scene.
Ok, some things which i know are bollocks...The percussion. I had a cool kind of off beat thing going on, but FL crashed, so for the moment its crashes and badly sequenced timpanis. Theres no 'fluffing' of it done yet, i.e i havent at little trills and bits of percussion. And erm, yeah its a bit heavy on the low end.
*I KNOW THERES A WRONG NOTE AT 1:08(im on dialup so it takes a while to upload a new version :P)*

Anyways, enjoy what i have so far guys, and help me out :)

http://www.soundclick.com/util/DownloadSong.cfm?ID=1778113

*EDIT: Tada!*
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1778113&q=Hi

Claado Shou

11-12-2004, 11:22 PM

Holy crap, dude. That's wonderful work. Very nice string work near the end, if I may say so.

BTW, may I request that when you post a WIP from SoundClick, you use the hi-fi stream address instead of the .mp3 address? If you're not a SoundClick member, you can't access the song, and since nothing's final, no downloading is necessary...just listening. I appreciate it immensely.

JasAce5

11-12-2004, 11:56 PM

ok claado... so you're post was really long and I read it fairly fast.... but are you actually planning on MAKING the movie? Cuz I didnt' see that part in there, but what good is a script and a soundtrack if you're not going to make the movie?

Also, did you say you TOOK OUT Ayla and Robo??? I hope I read that wrong... how do you just Take Out two Main characters??

1. No, I do not plan on making the movie. I have expressed a hope that should these two aspects of the movie come together, somebody will be willing to help create the third, namely the visual. But for now, the OST and the script are the only two finished products we're shooting for.

2. Yes, I took out Ayla and Robo. Along with them, I took out nearly an hour of unnecessary and confusing sidequests/backstory which would have drowned the movie with more than it needs. So know that my decision was well-thought-out, and the resulting product is not hurt, but instead is helped because of it.

take out alya and robo? youve got to have lost your mind! thats like cooking only 2/3 of a pie! put them back in now!

unessessary and confusing sidequests?!? bs, man, i denounce you as even being even a remote ct fan, this collection might be good for a real movie, but youve got to put those characters back in, they play an important part in the story.

because of robo, chrono, marle, and lucca would have never tried to save time without robos help, and they wouldnt have made it past 2300 AD.

i could bet money that this script/story, even tho it is unfinished, is 10x better than your script claado. even tho the story stopped at the recieving of the epoch, its most likely better than your script. CT novel (http://www.geocities.com/linkerdrich)

Claado Shou

11-13-2004, 12:05 AM

Oh boy...let me guess. You didn't even read the synopsis, did you?

I'll say this one more time: Robo and Ayla were never necessary to the plot of Chrono Trigger. Robo's only contribution was cosmetic; he allowed them to access the End of Time by being the fourth party member, but with the way the script is set up, he no longer has that responsibility. And with the Dreamstone taken out of the story, Ayla's role is nonexistent as well.

I was actually thinking of having Robo be a cameo character in the movie, or some sort of portable device that Lucca finds in the future and carries with her. You know, a super-advanced PDA or something. But Ayla stays out. Period.

Fritz the Cat

11-13-2004, 12:39 AM

Robo and Ayla were representatives of their respective time periods, though.

And, at least in Robo's case, he was the first 'living' person they met in the future. I mean, what else were there? A few dozen people waiting to die in the ruins of their cities?

Claado Shou

11-13-2004, 12:54 AM

Robo and Ayla were representatives of their respective time periods, though.

True...which is the only reason they were included in the game, so that there would be a guide of some sort in each time period to help the group. But since 65,000,000 B.C. is gone entirely, Ayla's role is wasted space. Also, I suppose you could say that 12,000 B.C., 600 A.D., and 1000 A.D. represent some sort of life, while 2300 A.D. represents death and apocalypse, which would make the need for a character representative unnecessary.

Good observation, though...for the game's purposes, Robo was a mainstay. For the movie, he isn't.

ellywu2

11-13-2004, 01:35 AM

Ok, i'm really sorry to spam, but i updated it. Added the end of Frogs fight possibly? Clydefrog brought up some good points in the WIP forum, so i'm going to work on them before i do more work fleshing the piece out.
same link as before by the way!

DarkeSword

11-13-2004, 01:47 AM

Everyone criticizing the script, just please shut the hell up. Nobody cares if you're indignant that your precious Chrono Trigger has been bastardized. Does the title of the thread say "Chrono Trigger Movie Script Review!!" ? No. The script is merely a framework for the project. So shut up.

Repeat. Shut up.

(shut up)

Anyway, I've got tracks 19 and 20 as of now. Not biting off more than I can chew. We'll see how things go.

PS.

Shut up.

Claado Shou

11-13-2004, 02:38 AM

Thanks, DarkeSword. Couldn't have put it better myself...though you can tell people to shut up and I can't because you're a judge. :roll: :P

Anyway, VERY nice work, Mr. (elly)Wu. It's coming along incredibly well, I can tell you that much (and that vocal sample is well-used). I see this piece being finished by week's end. :)

Also, can you give me a definitive name to call you? I don't know if you find Mr. Wu offensive or whatever, so, uh, any hints on titles?

sephfire

11-13-2004, 03:36 PM

Hey Claado, question...
On Dec 1st do you want a WIP of EVERY track we've claimed, or just a WIP of the tracks we've started working on? Either way is fine, I just want to know what I need to have ready.

BTW ellywu, Frog's theme sounds fantastic. And Ben's Final Battle really got me psyched. Great work so far, both of you.

ellywu2

11-13-2004, 03:43 PM

ha! Call me what you want mate, as long as its not twat or something like that :P

Claado Shou

11-13-2004, 06:48 PM

Would Mr. Twat suffice? :)

Anyway, yes, every song that's been claimed should have at least some sort of progress. I don't care if it's a 30 second snippit, as long as it portrays the direction and form the song will be taking. That's all that is necessary.

Claado Shou

11-14-2004, 02:12 PM

Alright, this thing could use some major bumping. 8)

Also, I think I'm ready to unveil the official project name, but I'll wait until I hear whether or not you guys want to see what it is yet.

Do you?

Blake

11-14-2004, 05:26 PM

I DO

Millman

11-14-2004, 05:53 PM

Me three!!!!!!!!!! Tell! Tell! Tell!!!

SirRus

11-14-2004, 06:57 PM

let's hear it

Claado Shou

11-14-2004, 08:14 PM

Alright...here it is...

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Cinematic Interpretation

EXPLANATION: The Tesseract is the place in the Chrono series where discarded timelines are sent. Something changes in time, the old dimension is tossed here and a new one is created. Since in the movie, Crono & Co. are constantly changing history, several revised timelines are made, meaning that every previous one goes to the Tesseract...meaning that the story itself is a Chronicle of the Tesseract. Every song, then, would be a way of telling that story, meaning that they, too, are Chronicles.

Also, the title is abbreviated as CoT, containing the C and T often associated with Chrono Trigger. Additionally, "Chronicles" uses the same root word as "Chrono", thus making the allusion even stronger.

The second part of the title can be discarded, but simply looking at the first part...does anybody like it? Comments?

ellywu2

11-14-2004, 11:35 PM

CoT sounds fine to me :)
Mr twat will do :P
oh, and i updated my piece again guys, help if you can!

Claado Shou

11-14-2004, 11:55 PM

Very nice. I was a bit surprised at the change during the slower part in the middle, but I took to it quickly...and the ending is now much cooler, with great percussion to back up the excellent string work.

Still, I'd like to hear a 4:00 version of this more than updates to what you already have. Updates are great and all...but I think the overall structure should be completed and established first. Then make changes.

BTW, thanks for the vote of confidence on the name. I struggled over that one a bit. 8)

PLBenjaminZ

11-14-2004, 11:59 PM

wow 'Mr twat' (jk :D), I'll admit that I didn't really like yours when you just started started but now it's sounding really nice. :)

some problems in my opinion; I think the build up in the beginning takes a little too long, and the processing of the Oboe sample you used (or Clarinet, whatever it is xD) needs to be worked on a little bit but, it's obviously still a WIP so, you'll probably fix that.
Again, just my opinion...

eDiTed eDiT: oh yeah, I just listened to what you had again and I think at around 1:52 there is a wrong note there... not sure if you wanted it to go like that but it sounds kind of awkward (sp?) to me. Meh awkward is an awkward word. :roll:

I think everything else sounds great! I especially like the strings towards the end of what you have so far. Keep it up!

as for my pieces, I can't really find any time to work on them right now... too much homework, and I currently have a temporary mind block to my creative flow... :? Oh well, I'll get around to it soon.

ellywu2

11-15-2004, 12:17 AM

Mkay, sorry for the updates. I shall finish the thing now :)

EDIT: And yeah, that is the Infamous wrong note from 1:08 etc. I'm working on it.

PLBenjaminZ

11-15-2004, 12:30 AM

EXPLANATION: The Tesseract is the place in the Chrono series where discarded timelines are sent. Something changes in time, the old dimension is tossed here and a new one is created. Since in the movie, Crono & Co. are constantly changing history, several revised timelines are made, meaning that every previous one goes to the Tesseract...meaning that the story itself is a Chronicle of the Tesseract. Every song, then, would be a way of telling that story, meaning that they, too, are Chronicles.
sounds like your talking about that part in Chrono Cross where you see Chrono, Marle and Lucca... where they went over all that BS (in my opinion) about the worlds lost because they changed time lol...

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Cinematic Interpretation

waaah this word is 'way too big' for a simple minded person like me... >_< I like the C and T effect though;
the title is abbreviated as CoT, containing the C and T often associated with Chrono Trigger. Additionally, "Chronicles" uses the same root word as "Chrono", thus making the allusion even strongerwhat about Time? Chronicles of Time? xD Chronicles of Fate? Changing Fate? I dunno, I just don't like that word Tesseract lol...

DarkeSword

11-15-2004, 12:43 AM

How about just

'Chrono Trigger - The Motion Picture Soundtrack'

Claado Shou

11-15-2004, 01:03 AM

Well...maybe Time would work instead...but I like the way the word Tesseract sounds.

Yeah, maybe it's a bit too complex. Kong in Koncert, Relics of the Chozo...both simple titles.

Alright, Chronicles of Time then. How about that?

PLBenjaminZ

11-15-2004, 01:14 AM

well I'm no English major, but isn't it kind of redundant? iono whatever I'll just shhut up now :D

eDiT:
How about just

'Chrono Trigger - The Motion Picture Soundtrack'
that could work lol...

Lacour

11-15-2004, 02:21 AM

Does it have to involve the title of the movie in it? :? Try something with some environment to it. "The end of Time" because we had alot of people working on it, had about a group vote, post the most popular titles...or else you could just call it CT:the soundtrack

Sleepy Emp

11-15-2004, 01:30 PM

Ok, I started with "A Strange Happening". It is going to be a two-minute song, and here's a preview. I still have my doubts about the section after 0:50.

To Lands Unknown - WIP (http://vgmix.com/download?2731)

Thank you.

sephfire

11-15-2004, 01:33 PM

I like "Chronicles of the Tesseract."

"Tesseract" a little more unique/original than "Time." I think you had a winner with your first title name. Kudos. :)

Claado Shou

11-15-2004, 01:45 PM

Very nice, Emperor. We could definitely work this into the movie (though the timing would have to be a bit different than I had originally planned, but that's alright).

Personally, I think the section after :50 is amazing, and would work very well with how I have this in my mind. Great work, I must say...though the harp could use a tad of reverb. That's my only problem.

As for the title sephfire...I personally like Tesseract better as well, and Chronicles of Time is redundant, as Ben said. Both "Relics of the Chozo" and "Kong in Koncert" have some game-specific flavor to them, one with a change in letters and the other with the mention of an alien race. So that's why Tesseract fits, I think.

I don't know...maybe I should just rethink the whole thing and find something more suitable, like "Chrono Symphony" or "Chrono Symphonic" or something...

sephfire

11-15-2004, 03:09 PM

Emperor: you're awesome.

Claado: I still vote "tesseract" :lol:

And if all goes well, I'll have a WIP for the Magus battle later today.

That is all.

Claado Shou

11-15-2004, 03:19 PM

Very cool. 6 songs on the front page, 3 completed...very cool.

By the way, everybody, I'm still looking for free webspace from which to host this. Any ideas?

DarkeSword

11-15-2004, 03:24 PM

Very cool. 6 songs on the front page, 3 completed...very cool.

By the way, everybody, I'm still looking for free webspace from which to host this. Any ideas?

I'll talk to you about that. IM me about it sometime tonight.

Claado Shou

11-15-2004, 03:56 PM

Indeed I shall.

sephfire

11-15-2004, 10:54 PM

Man I love it when you suddenly find yourself with free time. Here's the Magus Battle WIP I promised. Not completely polished, but I'm pretty proud of it so far.

Track 13 - "Battle with Magus" -- Confrontation (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/confrontation.mp3)

Here's the visual-time breakdown:
(:00 - :21) = staredown and pre-fight chat
(:21 - :57) = fight
(:57 - 1:10) = enter Lavos
(1:10 - 1:24) = everyone sucked into "uber-gate"

Hope you like. BTW, Claado, here's the latest version of Inciting Incident (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/inciting_incident_2.mp3) if you want it for the front page. It's a different url from the first one I posted here.

Claado Shou

11-15-2004, 11:13 PM

Wow. Incredible stuff, seph. This is awesome.

For the battle song, it's supposed to be 2:00...could you please add a bit more to the actual fight section, something to extend that? Also, there's 7 or 8 seconds of silence at the end of your song, so you might want to chop that off.

Additionally, would you like me to put this up under a different name? "Confrontation" sounds sort of...boring. Add something like "Temporal" to the beginning of it, perhaps?

I'll also update the Inciting Incident link. Nice name on that, BTW, if I didn't tell you so.

~.C.S.~

sephfire

11-15-2004, 11:58 PM

Yeah that name came from the last functioning neuron. I get pretty fried after working on this junk all day. I'll make up something better later.

I'l lengthen the battle section later.

Claado Shou

11-16-2004, 12:29 AM

Okay, the name is officialized (is that a word?), as you can see by the thread title. "Chronicles of the Tesseract" it be.

8) 8) 8)

~.C.S.~

Claado Shou

11-16-2004, 08:01 PM

Bump. :P

sephfire

11-16-2004, 10:26 PM

Still haven't heard from Unknown, krispy and the others, have we?

Claado Shou

11-16-2004, 10:45 PM

Uh...nope. I IMed krispy earlier this month and he said that he and GrayLightning were looking into the project more (the song they wanted was claimed), so they might not participate at all. And Unknown...no idea.

BTW, how do you guys feel about the new banner? It's preliminary, but I LOVE the font. I made the letters myself, ya know. :D

SilentMartyr

11-17-2004, 04:49 PM

Hey claado, I like the banner the letters could be a little smoother unless thats was the effect you were looking for. But its good. If you dont mind Id like to post occasionally my WIP on the banner. Id like to see what the pther guys think as it progresses and see if there are any ideas or comments that could help.

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 04:54 PM

Yeah, as I said, it's preliminary, so please post some other ideas and pictures. Yeah, I meant for the letters to be jagged and all, but only at the edges...may have to work on that...

Arcana

11-17-2004, 05:02 PM

Maybe it's your intention, but if you want anyone to read this thread besides the people involved in the project, you might want to leave "Chrono Trigger" in the title of the thread somewhere. It goes also for your web space and your banner.

I was wondering for a moment if Chronicles of Tesseract was a new online game MMORPG with beta applications due on Dec 1. :)

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 05:11 PM

Hmm...good point. Lemme change that right quick.

SilentMartyr

11-17-2004, 05:54 PM

When you taked to me about you wanting to do the text is that what you wanted (points at ur banner)? Im asking cause If thats the final product I would like to have it so I could work with it to make the banner match with the scheme of the text.

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 05:58 PM

SilentMartyr

11-17-2004, 06:06 PM

So do you mind if I steal the text? And are you dead set on the coloring?

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 06:29 PM

No and no. :wink:

Lacour

11-17-2004, 06:47 PM

SilentMartyr

11-17-2004, 06:55 PM

allright sweet Ill get on it asap. Like I said before I just got Metriod Prime 2 so my time will be taken up by that :D but I will get this in there, I promise. :mrgreen:

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 07:15 PM

sephfire

11-17-2004, 07:19 PM

are you serious about the title? Take my advice and stick with simple choices such as Chrono Trigger Soundtrack. Otherwise people will not know what "Tesseracts of the Chronicles" means. Unless all the recordings tie into the title...then it's no use.

Though I understand the reasoning, I somewhat disagree. I think this CD set we're making needs a title of its own. We could just call it the "Chrono Trigger OST" except, well ... it ISN'T the Chrono Trigger Original Soundtrack. It's a remix of the the OST. We could aslo simply call it the "Chrono Trigger Movie Soundtrack" except it isn't THAT either. There's no movie. It's just a remix project inspired by a fan screenplay. So in a way, those "simple" titles are actually more misleading than the name Claado has given the project.

However, one alternative would be to put Chrono Trigger in the name:
("Chrono Trigger: Chronicles of the Tesseract"). Something like that might reduce confusion.

No matter what the result, I think it's important that Claado be the one to decide this project's name. He has, after all, put far more into this than anyone else. It's his baby, so let him name it. ^^

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 07:24 PM

However, one alternative would be to put Chrono Trigger in the name:
("Chrono Trigger: Chronicles of the Tesseract"). Something like that might reduce confusion.

Yeah, that might work. Me think of somethin'.

No matter what the result, I think it's important that Claado be the one to decide this project's name. He has, after all, put far more into this than anyone else.

I...I have? :?

It's his baby, so let him name it. ^^

It...it is? :roll:

Claado Shou

11-17-2004, 07:27 PM

Okay, how about

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Chrono Trigger Remix Project

or something of the sort?

Lacour

11-18-2004, 01:49 AM

Okay, how about

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Chrono Trigger Remix Project

or something of the sort?

why dont' you take the most popular remixed song from the bunch and re-word it so that it matches somewhat of the title. abbreviating it also works too. aCTRp= a Chrono Trigger Remix project...much cleaner. i agree about your choices, but we want something that'll catch the eyes right away of the listener. OR! or this is my title, wouldn't go down with it, but "Green Legacies" just something to consider.

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 03:00 AM

The most popular remixed song, eh? How about "Corridors of Time"?

...

That was a joke, by the way. That would be the worst album title of all. Very unoriginal.

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 05:25 PM

Alright, we finally have somebody to do the ending theme: the amazingly talented Reuben Kee, or, for your OCers, Reu.

You can check out his incredible Cosmo Canyon remix in the WIP forum, if you want. Tight stuff indeed.

~.C.S.~

Arcana

11-18-2004, 05:58 PM

Okay, how about

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Chrono Trigger Remix Project

or something of the sort?

You might be better taking the text that's in front of your face (well, it was in front of mine :P) and call it,

Chronicles of the Tesseract - Chrono Trigger Cinematic Interpretation

The soundtrack would be, of course,

Chronicles of the Tesseract - Chrono Trigger Cinematic Interpretation Soundtrack.

By the way, what is a Tesseract?

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 06:17 PM

From two pages ago...

EXPLANATION: The Tesseract is the place in the Chrono series where discarded timelines are sent. Something changes in time, the old dimension is tossed here and a new one is created. Since in the movie, Crono & Co. are constantly changing history, several revised timelines are made, meaning that every previous one goes to the Tesseract...meaning that the story itself is a Chronicle of the Tesseract. Every song, then, would be a way of telling that story, meaning that they, too, are Chronicles.

And I'm still working out the title. So thanks for the suggestion.

SilentMartyr

11-18-2004, 06:22 PM

Ill try to make the banner be flexible based on the fact that the title will most likely be bigger.

Lacour

11-18-2004, 06:33 PM

Okay, how about

Chronicles of the Tesseract - A Chrono Trigger Remix Project

or something of the sort?

By the way, what is a Tesseract?

I agree with you on that one...i saw that C.S. put the meaning on it on here but we don't really wanna have a word in the title that most people won't know the meaning of. but since this is still going on i know that something will come up that all of us can agree on.

InfinitysEnd

11-18-2004, 07:04 PM

dunno if it's already been said, but i'm not scanning through 26 pages...

A Tesseract is an object that can only exist in 4-dimensional space. We draw it in 2-dimensional space by showing a cube with a cube inside of it (which just distorts our perception of a tesseract), but all the sides are connected to the outer cube. You can even make a tesseract in 3-dimensional space, but it's still not what it really looks like, what a tesseract REALLY looks like is impossible to make in 3-dimensional space, because the tesseract only exists in the FOURTH dimension...*cue Outer Limits music* The fouth dimension is aka "time" is related to Chrono Trigger, however, the word "chronicles" denotes a log of the passing of time. So, you're basically saying, "The Times of Time." That's pretty freakin' redundant if you ask me. And redundancy is BAD.

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 07:09 PM

Hah. Sorry, that just conflicts with virtually every belief I hold about time and dimensional theory. I won't go into specifics, but anyway...

Besides, the Tesseract we're talking about is not the Tesseract of modern physics. It's something totally different.

Arcana

11-18-2004, 07:36 PM

EXPLANATION: The Tesseract is the place in the Chrono series where discarded timelines are sent. Something changes in time, the old dimension is tossed here and a new one is created. Since in the movie, Crono & Co. are constantly changing history, several revised timelines are made, meaning that every previous one goes to the Tesseract...meaning that the story itself is a Chronicle of the Tesseract. Every song, then, would be a way of telling that story, meaning that they, too, are Chronicles.

While Chozo is widely known as the ancient race on some planet in some Metroid series (at least, I've played only one Metroid game and I knew what the Chozo were), I don't think the Tesseract in Chrono Trigger as being a "log" of time is common knowledge. It sounds like something taken out of a Chrono Trigger "Perfect Guide" that was never made widely available.

A tesseract is NOT a phenomenon of physics, and a fourth dimension is NOT necessarily time.

The common name for a tesseract is a hypercube, or a 4-dimensional cube, which is basically a node with four connections to other nodes, or a geometric shape that looks like two cubes joined together at the corners, or a cube inside a cube.

Hypercubes and n-dimensional cubes used extensively in distributed systems research because it takes only an average log(n) steps to go from one node to another in an n-dimensional cube (if I recall correctly).

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 07:42 PM

Yeah, I'm still debating the entire Tesseract idea. Don't know if that will stick or not. Thought it would, maybe it won't.

Lacour

11-18-2004, 07:42 PM

BAH!! Too confusing :( Just try "Memories of Chrono"...even though it's copyrighted, we're not selliing it.

Claado Shou

11-18-2004, 07:54 PM

Alright...instead of posting suggestions, let me just think this over. So please, stop making your own titles. It's far too confusing with everybody voicing their opinions at one time.

Let me sort it out, and for the moment, let's forget about the entire thing. I'll get back to it later.

Anyway, in regards to the music...

InfinitysEnd

11-18-2004, 11:13 PM

I was thinking about this a little while driving today and I know you said quit posting suggestions, but how about something along the lines of, "Melodies of the Past, Present, and Future"? Maybe as a subtitle? I dunno...it's your call.

Xenon Odyssey

11-19-2004, 12:56 AM

Tesseract = http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~briere/images/hypercube.jpg

I think "Chronicles of the Tesseract" is a fine name. It relates to Chrono Trigger, and I like the fact that it shortens to "CoT", which is the same as Chrono Trigger. That has my vote. And keep up the work guys! All the tracks so far have superb. Can't wait till you guys finish.

InfinitysEnd

11-19-2004, 01:56 AM

That's a cool pic, but it's only a 3-Dimensional depiction. You must remember that the lengths of every side of every cube-like object in a tesseract ARE THE SAME! Yes, it doesn't look that way, but that's because we aren't able to see what it looks like because we can only think in three dimensions. You have to imagine the rest.

sephfire

11-19-2004, 05:47 AM

Ok, interesting as this tesseract talk is guys, maybe you should start another thread and take it there. This thread is really starting to move off topic... ^^

SilentMartyr

11-19-2004, 04:48 PM

Yessirrie Seph you are correct. Umm Claado whenever you decide on a title and make it just send it to me. Ill still do the banner, I wont wait.

DarkeSword

11-20-2004, 01:27 AM

Just call it Chrono Trigger: The Motion Picture Soundtrack.

:P

ellywu2

11-20-2004, 02:06 AM

Maybe, just maybe, everyone should stfu and concentrate on the music? just a thought you know?

Claado Shou

11-20-2004, 02:11 AM

Without using those exact words...exactly. :roll: 8)

Claado Shou

11-21-2004, 05:10 PM

Bumpity bump bump bump.

Xenon Odyssey

11-21-2004, 06:38 PM

Just as a suggestion, Claado, but you should try to get Nixdorux in on this. If you've heard any of his Zelda songs over on VGMix, you can see has has superb talent at orchestra (his recent submission to OCR is something different for his tastes, though).

On an unrelated note to the project, does anybody know how to steal items in Chrono Trigger? I read about it in a FAQ, but it never said how to. Of course, if Claado doesn't want you guys to answer, then that's fine.

Zeality

11-21-2004, 06:55 PM

You need Ayla; give her enough tech points after recruiting her and she'll learn the 'Charm' tech. Just use it on whoever you want to steal from; if you want a higher chance of stealing, Ayla and Marle have a doubletech, but Marle too needs to have enough tech points.

Xenon Odyssey

11-21-2004, 08:10 PM

Ah, I see. Thanks.

I hope there's no stealing in the script, otherwise you'd need to put a character back in...;)

Claado Shou

11-22-2004, 03:34 AM

Talk about the game in here, I don't care. The game is where the movie came from anyway. :)

But please, musicians, post your progress. If nothing else, let us all know what's going down with your pieces, so we're not totally in the dark. It would be much appreciated.

CykoticZZ

11-22-2004, 03:53 PM

Just to keep everyone on their toes, i SSed some pics for ya'll.

Now about this movie, is it gonna be animated? 3d? or just flashing screens while the music plays in the background? cause i'm good at taking screens.... i'm REALLY good at it... wish i could remix.. but no.. just screens.. 8O 8O 8O

http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/600ad.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/bumpintomarle.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/fair.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/fair2.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/lavos.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/melchoir1.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/zombor.JPG
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~blk02001/pics/chronopics/wakeup.JPG

in the Zombor pic i cut out Marle cause she isn't there in your script. I was thinking of putting a bunch of Screens together in photoshop, make a whole map of each era. its easy with the Epoch.

Claado Shou

11-22-2004, 04:24 PM

*sigh*

Thanks for the screenshots and all, but there is no movie being made. Not yet, at least. And I don't think it would be CT-style graphics anyway...it wouldn't portray the actions correctly.

Moose Of Woe

11-22-2004, 05:36 PM

Wow, nice tracks!

I've been away from these parts for a month or two...and I just looked at the Chrono Resurrection trailer and saw it was shut down by the Square-Enix nazis.

It irks me to no end that the evil empire would wait until the people who put such effort into the project were THAT far into development to can the project. That shows absolutely no class whatsoever. Meanwhile, Square-Enix continues to push out craptacular games (FFX, FFX-2, FF Online where they STILL haven't made any money).

What is their PROBLEM? Maybe if they'd LISTEN to their long time consumers they'd earn some frickin' profitable business.

Oh well.........

Zeality

11-22-2004, 06:20 PM

Hey Moose, if you ever want to speak to Pun, let me know. You should remember him from END, though he didn't make VDS. Though VDS in its later stages was utter crap.

Hey, I noticed WIPs have come to VGMix from this project. Why not post them here as well?

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2760
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2734
http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2731

Moose Of Woe

11-23-2004, 03:36 AM

Hey Zeal/JPG how is it going? Yes I remember pun and all the END/VDS folks. And yes, VDS (and all JK1 clans) were crap in the later days. VDS was awesome in its time though, so was END which was made by Hex.

I think I was in both clans for a day hehe....yes I know I was a dirty little clan hopper lol... But vanion/hex and I all had fun with it.

Zeality

11-23-2004, 05:44 AM

Yeah, it was those bastards like Zodiac that ruined VDS. And END bit the dust as soon as they let guys like PhotonFX and K0rupt in. Lol, k0rupt...

Well, good to see you.

sephfire

11-23-2004, 06:03 AM

It irks me to no end that the evil empire would wait until the people who put such effort into the project were THAT far into development to can the project. That shows absolutely no class whatsoever. Meanwhile, Square-Enix continues to push out craptacular games (FFX, FFX-2, FF Online where they STILL haven't made any money).

What is their PROBLEM? Maybe if they'd LISTEN to their long time consumers they'd earn some frickin' profitable business.

Oh well.........

:arrow: Seek enlightenment here. (http://www.leiningertech.com/flash/Best%20Flash%20Video%20EVER.swf)

10 cool points to the first person who can remember the original topic of this thread.

ellywu2

11-23-2004, 11:21 AM

Winter Skin Care: Do's and Dont's for the modern woman.

Claado Shou

11-23-2004, 05:23 PM

Uh...yeah.

I'll be sending out a mass PM this Thursday to remind you all to show me your stuff. But please, don't wait until then. SHOW/TELL US YOUR PROGRESS WHENEVER YOU CAN.

So...how about those Lakers?

SilentMartyr

11-23-2004, 05:48 PM

:lmassoff: Nice link Seph

For the question im gonna go with my gut and say a Chrono Trigger Movie Themed remix project.

I like cool points :)

And btw Ill have a WIP of the banner up before Thursday, since I beat MP2 last night I have time to do things like eat sleep and make banners again. :)

sephfire

11-23-2004, 08:49 PM

The holiday should give me some extra time, so hopefully I'll have some more to post by the weekend.

SilentMartyr

11-24-2004, 01:15 AM

Okay I just got done the background part of the banner, please tell me anything that doesnt look good/right. This is for everyone so dont be shy, I cant take the critisim :)

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~sam62/CTMRP%20project.jpg

Claado Shou

11-24-2004, 01:53 AM

http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/claadoshou/3580975.jpg

Something more like this, really. The background needed to be darker and smaller. Plus, the balloon scene is not in the movie, so it's unnecessary. But otherwise, an incredibly interesting idea. I LOVE the campfire scene screenshot, and the music notes...awesome.

SuddenSelf-Awareness

11-24-2004, 03:18 AM

I was looking at this forum and wanted to share that a future project of mine is a Chrono Trigger short film. The Premise is different (because it is a short) it still has many references to things from the game. I made a desktop for it awhile back and thought you might like to see it.

http://www.spymac.com/gallery/show_photo.php?picid=51029

you can find the image at this link.[/img]

Claado Shou

11-24-2004, 03:34 AM

That's cool. Judging from the desktop graphic I'm guessing the film isn't CT-style animation; what is it? I didn't see any other information.

SuddenSelf-Awareness

11-24-2004, 03:45 AM

It will be live action. Most likely shot in High Definition and there will be a huge amount of post production work on the film as far as visual effects go. I am wanting the running time to come in somewhere around 15 minutes on the film. The opening sequence starts like the game with the pendulum swinging back and forward and then you see the whole clock and it is in a process of decay. Then the next two minutes is basically everything from pocket watches to grandfather clocks breaking apart and then just springing to life and start putting themselves back together. That is how far the film has come so far and the footage will be shot in a year or so.

PLBenjaminZ

11-24-2004, 07:06 AM

damn i haven't been on my computer for like 10 days because the power supply for my computer went out and i didn't bother to get it replaced :P oh well i was too busy to do anything anyway.
i skimmed through the six pages i missed since my last post and suprisingly found nothing relevant lol... if theres something important i missed leme know, thanks :P

so i finally had time to work on something today, but i didn't really get any good ideas, so i just played around with the piano and threw something together...

http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/plbenjaminz/denadoroclimb.mp3 <- Right Click Save As Please

i screwed up and theres no way it'll fit in 2min 30secs so uhhhh... i just started adding bullshit in it...
time to start over? lol... oh well the holidays are coming up so i'll have a lot of time to work on my scenes then :D

i also added stuff to the lavos one a week ago but i didn't post it so... yeah i updated it

http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/plbenjaminz/The_Final_Battle.mp3 <- Same thing as up there

just a note, i'm gonna add some whole other section before that last part comes in, so like the order is all messed up right now, that last part is supposed to be when chrono starts to head toward lavos for the final strike; i just started that part and after i finish that i still have to do the part before it and then the escaping crap >_>

whatever, okay time to sleep, one more day of school til thanksgiving break :?

Claado Shou

11-24-2004, 02:06 PM

Denadoro Climb - good base, dude; though I have a few ideas for both how you can make it better and how you can increase its length. First off, the very beginning should be a few high pizzicato notes and then about 20 seconds of happier music, then it could degress into the solemn climbing music, and then get more fevered as Marle/Lucca fall and Crono has to save them. Then it'd be cool if it got slightly more upbeat when they reached the platform/summit and start to go inside the tunnel.

Lavos Battle - for this one, let me just remind you to 1) keep going, cause you have a great WIP, and 2) at about the 3:30-4:00 area, Lavos erupts and then the rest of the music is the party escaping and watching the palace crumble. So keep that in mind and continue with your amazing work.

SilentMartyr

11-24-2004, 02:46 PM

Okay so no balloons, smaller, and darker. Gotcha :)

ellywu2

11-24-2004, 03:51 PM

Ok seeing as everyones doing it, a state of the WIP

http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=2760

It's nearing completion now, and the general structure is there, minus 20 seconds or so which i'll fit into the end.

SilentMartyr

11-24-2004, 04:25 PM

So one else has any thoughts/comments about the banner so far??

Claado Shou

11-24-2004, 04:34 PM

Very awesome opening, man. That takes the cake when it comes to emotional charge, so far. And the rest is very good as well. I can most certainly imagine this being the song playing during Frog's intervention. End it off with 20 or so more seconds of music, and you are at 'completed' status.

BTW, is that the name you'd like to keep for the piece? Or is there something else you'd prefer more, Mr. Wu?

Moose Of Woe

11-24-2004, 10:57 PM

Claado Shou

11-26-2004, 01:22 AM

Bump, once again.

BTW, this is a shameless plug, but if you wanted to see some of my amazing sprite work, I have some custom Halo 2 sprites now at GSArchives (located here (http://www.gsarchives.net/index2.php?category=all&system=custom&game=claado_shou&type=sprites&level0=non-animated)) and some Chrono Trigger-style ones that are in the judging queue (located here (http://www.gsarchives.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2437)).

Enjoy!

Rellik

11-26-2004, 05:00 AM

Question:

For the "Ocean Palace" portion, the source song is supposed to be Undersea Palace, not Zeal Palace, correct? I feel like getting started :) although it's going to be difficult, I'll try.

Claado Shou

11-26-2004, 01:31 PM

You can use any source tune that you like, but the one I had picked out for it was more of a Zeal Palace tune. However, since it will be a dark/action piece anyway, Undersea Palace would work very well.

Rellik

11-26-2004, 07:13 PM

Well, here's a WiP.

Man, I love working on projects with slow tempos :D makes length such an easy thing to attain. Anyway, I guess I'll be mixing Zeal Palace and Undersea Palace in this - check what I have so far:

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/Rellik_-_Zeal_Ice.mp3

From my estimations, it seems to start at

EXT. FROZEN WORLD - MOMENTS LATER
The ship comes out of time-warp quickly and in a flash of light, floating a hundred feet or so above the ice-covered surface. It stays in one place for a moment.
INT. EPOCH - CONTINUOUS
LUCCA
Alright, so where are we going?
CRONO
A place called the Ocean Palace. It’s an underwater stronghold of sorts.

and end at

MAGUS
I’m not leaving without you, Schala!
SCHALA
Oh, yes, you are!
Schala takes her pendant off and it displays a bright light that encompasses the three of them.
MARLE
We can’t just let you die here!
SCHALA
Don’t worry about me! Just go!
The light dissolves the three of them and transports them out. The light then dies away, and Schala’s pendant dims to nothingness.
SCHALA
Please...please keep Janus safe...

Would this be correct? It's #18

Claado Shou

11-26-2004, 08:41 PM

Yeah. That's about right.

By the way, really nice work evoking the icy atmosphere. I can totally feel this, dude. Awesome beginning.

Claado Shou

11-26-2004, 11:13 PM

Sorry about the double post, but I just recently got word from both krispy and GrayLightning, two of the unconfirmed mixers in this project, and they had to drop out, due to time and activity constraints. So our total is now two mixers lower, but considering that we've added two mixers since the project's beginning, it all evens out in the end.

Reminder: post your stuff on deadline. Plz.

BIG EDIT: Unknown has finally joined us! He took Scene 22, so watch out for some awesome orchestral coming our way quite soon.

~.C.S.~

Russell Cox

11-27-2004, 05:29 AM

No one has mentioned or claimed a spot for #21, so if there is still room I will start to work on that ASAP. Melodic content with a lot of emotion is usually where my best work is anyway.

SirRus

11-27-2004, 06:23 AM

RUSSELL COX OMG

PLBenjaminZ

11-27-2004, 07:25 AM

i'ma noob so um... who's that lol... :lol:

and anyone know where i can find nice (and possibly free :P ) 'orchestralish-like' vocal samples? i've been looking for good ones for a while now and i can't seem to find any :(

ellywu2

11-27-2004, 09:29 AM

Florestan has a choir sample soundfont, and so does Palmedia, which has a choir humm and a single female voice.
Whilst they sound wonky doing complex stuff, if you slap reverb on them, EQ the arse off them and generally add some string lines or something they can sound quite good.

Claado Shou

11-27-2004, 01:35 PM

Having heard your work before, Mr. Cox, and admired it very much, my answer is

HELL YES

I'll put you down, and send you your script portion immediately. Awesome development here, people.

Claado Shou

11-27-2004, 03:47 PM

Sorry for the double post, but using The Orichalcon's link, I've created a database of all the project files (music, documents, etc.) thus far.

The address is http://eof.servehttp.com/ctproject, and though it has no design (yet), it's good enough for now.

Russell Cox

11-28-2004, 12:26 AM

http://www.geocities.com/trptcox219/WIP.mp3

I've only had a few minutes to work on this today, but there is basically the first 'scene' of my part. Marle and co. are at the top of Death Peak and prepare to use the Chrono Trigger.

Claado Shou

11-28-2004, 12:30 AM

Your first song in this long of an absence, and you decide to bless us with your presence. :D I salute, thank, praise, and adore you.

BTW, what you have so far, cover it may be, is very nice. Very nice indeed.

SirRus

11-29-2004, 11:02 AM

5 in the AM?!?! Yeah, I got back late Sunday night to my college where I had conveniently left all my music gear over break, so I decided it was about time to invest a couple hours into getting one of my two solo WIPs a-ready for the Dec. 1 "Even Crappy WIPs Will Keep You in the Project" Deadline.

Here's the script that I tried to work into my song so far:

INT. EARTH-TO-ZEAL SKYWAY - LATER
The three come through the cloth-band door of the structure, and look at the dazzling site before them.
On a pedestal in front of them, a beam of light sits on the ground, with a hole in the ceiling that it goes up through. Flowers and decorations are everywhere within the skyway.
MARLE
Wow...didn’t think I’d see something so pretty in such a desolate place.
FROG
An eerie feeling doesth haunt my thoughts. Shall we step into the portal?
CRONO
Well, we’ve already done it twice, and both times we ended up in a place not exactly to our liking.
(rubs snow from hair)
But you know, maybe the third time’s a charm.
He steps up into the light with the others behind him, and they become three thin bands of energy that shoot into the sky and disappear.
INT. ZEAL-TO-EARTH SKYWAY - CONTINUOUS
The three materialize in a room exactly like the one they were just in. They look around.
MARLE
We didn’t go anywhere?
CRONO
(looking out door)
Well, it’s not snowing...
(listening)
And there are people here.
They walk out the doorway into the...
INT. ZEAL PALACE - CONTINUOUS
...and gaze about at the things going on.
Books are opening and shutting themselves, spewing fire and lightning and wind and water everywhere. People are casting small spells constantly, to light candles, to put them out, to fix a chair.
FROG
A city of magic.

So the first minute of song is supposed to depict a beautiful/eerie scene... and then the transition to where they look upon the city of magic... I started to pick up steam at the end of the WIP, but all it is for now is a beat and flute lead. So yeah... that's really not all that exciting, but I promise I'll throw in a whole slew of wonderous instruments later.. when I don't have to wake up for class in 3 hours.

Good Night Claado, et. al.

Zeal WIP (http://students.ou.edu/S/Ravi.U.Sharma-1/Zeal.mp3)

Claado Shou

11-29-2004, 12:30 PM

Good start, SirRus. And yes, I understand the need to study for finals and all that stuff. My condolences.

((BTW, you're not gonna get kicked out if you don't have a WIP ready. I just want to see some progress, that's all.))

Knowing your skills are a bit cramped at the moment, I won't even begin to critique the piece, since you will undoubtedly revise it when you have the chance. So, nice start...very evocative, very Zeal-quality, and very nice orchestration.

SilentMartyr

11-29-2004, 06:34 PM

I guess no one else cares so Ill just take CS's remarks and go with it. Hope everyone had a great vacation!

Reu

11-30-2004, 09:02 AM

Hi all. Here's my "WIP-so-I-won't-get-kicked-off-for-missing-the-dec-1-wip-deadline". XD

http://www.reubenkee.com/music/remixes/To%20far%20away%20times.mp3

Its quite minimalistic, I think.... basically the goal of the arrangement was to try to understand the movements in the melodies and chords for a future revision.

Not sure if this'll sound good with a couple of pianos and get more upbeat, or maybe stick to this style.

Cheers.

Claado Shou

11-30-2004, 01:05 PM

That's awesome, dude. Very, very nice work. Definitely coming damn close to being perfect.

Anybody else?

JasAce5

11-30-2004, 11:49 PM

Yay! previews are due tomorrow! i cant wait! :D

imo, i think the to far away times is not "lively" enough. its too quiet. :(

sounds good though.

DarkeSword

12-01-2004, 12:23 AM

T_T

I need an extension. I have so much Physics stuff due tomorrow. :cry:

Claado Shou

12-01-2004, 12:27 AM

As I said before,

You're not gonna get kicked out if you don't have a WIP ready. I just want to see some progress, that's all.

It's for my own personal reasons (which will soon be made clear) that I want something to work with, but if you have shit that needs done (you and SirRus are in the same boat, apparently), don't worry about it. School comes first, period.

Psycrow

12-01-2004, 05:21 AM

With the list of remixers there -- sephfire, darkesword, etc-- this oughta be good :)

ellywu2

12-01-2004, 11:24 AM

Hey everyone. Well, my frog wip is up. Me and sephire havent actually started on our collab, but well its been a busy few weeks for both of us. Although when we do start it'll be awesome.
Hope it all goes well everyone!

Gungriffon Geona³

12-01-2004, 01:37 PM

I have a question. what about the song "World Revolution"? is that going to be done as well? just wondering, since it is my favorite song and all. (not that it matters though.)

Claado Shou

12-01-2004, 01:42 PM

If somebody wants to use the source tune, that's up to them. Song usage is entirely up to the remixer.

BTW, that is an interesting song. It would be a nice addition, if somebody would be so bold as to include it...

Sleepy Emp

12-01-2004, 03:29 PM

*sigh*
I haven't been able to work on the second mix. I think I'll do better if I finish the first one before getting to another. Sorry.

sephfire

12-01-2004, 04:50 PM

Here's the early start for me and SirRus's collaboration piece.

Track02 - Morning Sunlight (http://www.finalfantasy7.info/morning_sunlight.mp3)

I tried putting something together for the one ellywu2 and I are doing, but the result wasn't worth listening to so I scrapped it. :? Fortunately, finals will be over in a couple weeks and that'll make a big difference in everyone's productivity from the look of things.

Claado Shou

12-01-2004, 08:02 PM

Very good opening. That's exactly what I had in mind...a peaceful awakening. Good shtuff.

Other previews?

vgmusiclover

12-01-2004, 10:49 PM

just read the script, and I thought that if you slightly remake the script (such as adding Ayla and Robo) and add in some more things from the game, it would make a miniseries, which I think would be better than a movie. No offence to anybody.

Blake

12-02-2004, 01:43 AM

Hey guys; I've been really busy with school, swimming, and homework. I couldn't really pull out a wip for this one. I know I didn't meet the deadline, and I doubt I'll really be able to produce anything good in the future, so if anybody wants to take my song I'll be glad.

I'll still do it though if nobody wants to.

Tyler Heath

12-02-2004, 04:39 AM

Hey, I'm not very far with the song yet. So I'll get a preview up as soon as I've got something workable.

Claado Shou

12-02-2004, 02:06 PM

Alrighty then.

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that finals, as well as several other undesirable events, have made the Dec. 1 deadline...well, somewhat inopportune. And since finals won't be over for several more weeks, I suppose now's as good a time as any to tell you guys something that's rather important.

From December 15th through somewhere near mid-to-late February, I will be totally unavailable. The reason for this is that I will be headed off to Navy boot camp in the Great Lakes. Actually, my absence will begin the afternoon of December 14th, since I will have to stay the night at a hotel for an early rise, checkup, and then departure.

I started this project October 15, hoping that in the two months that I would have to get things in place, we would have several of the songs done (which we do), a good portion more of them started (which we do), and basically every mixer having a great concept of their position (which I'm confident you all do). I started it hoping that when I left in two months, it would be moving forward with enough momentum to keep itself going...which I think it does.

I still have close to two weeks left to make sure everything is straightened out, so if you have any questions, please let them be asked now. PM me or IM me or post them in here, but I want to clear up anything previous to my leaving, so you all have your own clear vision of what to do next.

Sadly, by the time finals are over, I will be gone, and not have access to anything even remotely electronic. That means that as songs finally begin to get posted, I will be unable to comment on them, and unable to upload them to the server space.

However, I have asked ZeaLitY to do both of these things for me, and he has agreed to do so, so at least everything will be kept in order. ZeaLitY is familiar with the script and what's going on, so he is very able to do the job.

That said, I'm sorry I won't be able to hear all of your amazing work when it first comes out. I won't be able to see it improve, and see you all improve with it. On the bright side, when I get back, I'll have a good amount of listening to do and a good amount of praise to hand out, so at least there's a little bit of light at the end of my tunnel.

So, anything that needs said, say it. I'll be listening (er, reading...whatever).

~.C.S.~

Millman

12-02-2004, 05:50 PM

Wow. This is kind of disheartening. I know I'm not even a part of the project, but if I were in your shoes, I'd be highly disappointed. But worry not! The mixers on your project won't let you down. You may not get to comment on it right away and HELP it evolve, but I suggest having someone post the originals somewhere for you, and then if they're modified, have each modification available to you. That way when you listen, you hear it evolve. =)

SilentMartyr

12-02-2004, 05:53 PM

Alrighty then, sounds like Ill have the banner done before you leave. Ill try to get it done this weekend but its questionable. Ill def have it done before you go though, dont worry.

sephfire

12-02-2004, 06:24 PM

That kinda sucks. Well, hopefully you'll have some good listening material when you get back. :wink:

Rellik

12-02-2004, 10:22 PM

Sadly, by the time finals are over, I will be gone, and not have access to anything even remotely electronic.

But... we will have access to very electronic things. Imagine coming back to a fully finalized electronica CT soundtrack! Wouldn't that be cool?

Sorry, had to take a jab at that. I'll attempt to stay orchestral. Too bad about you having to leave - why are you going to book camp, by the way? Are you going to be in the Navy?

Claado Shou

12-02-2004, 11:34 PM

Yeah, I'm joining the Navy. I'll have two years after boot camp that I'm in school before I join the fleet, so I'll have a good long while to make sure this project gets thoroughly finished.

Here's to hoping it doesn't take two years to finish. 8)

Namekian

12-03-2004, 04:32 AM

Awsome job guys. I so wish that I had musical talent. Anyhow, I would highly suggest that you set up a meeting or something with whoever purchased the rights to the Chrono Trigger story, if anyone has bought it yet.

Claado Shou

12-04-2004, 03:17 PM

Bumpity bump.

8) 8)

Blake

12-04-2004, 03:57 PM

Well, I have to say that you've made a patriotic choice to join the navy, and I am glad for your integrity for even making the decision, as it will only increase through boot camp. Good luck then when you go man. Thanks a lot for setting this whole thing up, and not just letting it die but assigning a new leader to keep it goin.

And thanks a lot Zeality for agreeing to take over the controls later on as it will keep the project binded together.

Claado Shou

12-04-2004, 04:12 PM

Honestly, it wasn't so much a patriotic choice as it was a "They're giving me money to do the same thing I would do at a normal college and then paying me to travel the world" choice. Plus, womenz luv da hawt menz in uniform!

tgfoo

12-04-2004, 05:17 PM

You're leaving Claado? Man, this thread just won't be the same without you. Good luck in the Navy. And yes, uniforms are chick magnets, especially the white Navy officer uniforms (I live close to Annapolis, where the U.S. Naval Academy is, girls go nuts over those guys and their uniforms)

And great music that I'm hearing so far. I especially like Reu's piano piece, but they're all coming along great.

Reu

12-05-2004, 12:35 AM

So Claado's leaving to find some real adventure in life :)

All the best.

Zeality

12-05-2004, 01:25 AM

Dang, TF is cool. I've already begun work on Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes, a full-length new game. Porre is now a dark state, with soldiers everywhere. I just need to edit the Porre Mayor's house. Additionally, the book in Crono's room is now a journal of sorts (though you can't write in it). I've also given the Kilwala in Snail Stop two alternate songs to play, and added a small island off the coast of Porre where arcane military research and arming takes place.

Woot for Chrono Trigger modification and remixing.

Claado Shou

12-07-2004, 01:15 PM

Once again, second-page bump. I only have 8 days left to keep this alive...what's gonna happen when I'm gone?!

:P

sephfire

12-07-2004, 04:54 PM

The lack of acitivity in the thread is likely the fault of finals. My first is tomorrow and my last is the 17th. That and I have a high school dance to DJ this saturday and they're picky.
I'll be back on track after the 17th.

Zeality

12-07-2004, 09:47 PM

Once again, second-page bump. I only have 8 days left to keep this alive...what's gonna happen when I'm gone?!

:P

I will happen to it. I kept a Chrono thread going for 54 pages once (the birth of the Compendium happened at OCR).

Bren

12-08-2004, 06:52 PM

Has someone started a "Lucca's Arival" WIP? If not put me up for that because Im currently working on one :)

EDIT: just for the record, would you prefer something along the lines of "Lucca the Amazing" and "Lucca to the Rescue" as is in the OST (fast paced, staccato, strong, bold), or something slower, legato and soft?

Claado Shou

12-08-2004, 08:02 PM

Hmm...I'm gonna redirect you to the front page, first post, which makes it rather clear that only remixers who are invited or accepted through the now-over audition process are being used in this project. If you have an exceptionally good ready-made CT piece for me, then maybe I can pull a Russell Cox or an mv for you, and let you in.

Basically, I'll need to see your credentials.

And since you asked, the song starts off slowly and more emotional, considering that Crono is tending to Marle's wound, and then becomes the more action-driven song where Lucca blows the enemy away. So, both.

SilentMartyr

12-08-2004, 09:20 PM

Claado, I finished the main background. Im at work So I cant post it but Ill do it when I get home. hopefully you can get some feedback in again before you leave.

12-09-2004, 02:25 AM

good luck with the navy camp.

i've been pretty silent because lately life's been a wreck! musically too!

i had to quit several projects including darkesword's kirby project (sorry again!). i have a few ideas for my CT movie tracks though so i'll try to have the tunes done before the end of the year hopefully. (i also am in an album competition so i'll have to make tons of stuff:)

i really need to remix game stuff anyway, i haven't done so since april. busy with some GBA and other-media music.

SilentMartyr

12-09-2004, 03:52 PM

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~sam62/CTMRP%20project.jpg

Okay here is the background again, this time darker and smaller. Anyone with comments please dont be shy, with claado about to go someone should be putting some input in.

DarkeSword

12-09-2004, 05:26 PM

Bren

12-09-2004, 08:24 PM

DarkeSword

12-09-2004, 09:23 PM

it looks like the campfire scene right before Lucca's quest to alter her own past by saving her mother from that weird machine in her house.

On a different note: I just started the song a couple of days ago, so I will need more time before I can send you something to give an idea of what it will end up sounding like.

Claado's leaving soon. You should probably show him some of your work before then so he can make the judgement about the caliber of your stuff.

SilentMartyr

12-10-2004, 01:27 AM

Claado Shou

12-10-2004, 01:34 AM

Hrmm...I dunno...seems a bit off somehow...

First off, it needs a border. Secondly, the music lines need to come out a bit more so it doesn't seem like leftover design material, so they're recognizable. Thirdly, it's too dark now...and fourthly, both Robo and Ayla are in it, two characters that happen to not exist in the script.

Keep at it, dude. Very nice concept.

Claado Shou

12-10-2004, 03:32 AM

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/9109/banner1yc.png

Something like this, but with the music notes in the background, plus words (those'll be added later, though).

BTW, I did Magus' face in the flames and the shadows.

SilentMartyr

12-10-2004, 04:05 PM

http://img39.exs.cx/img39/5056/banner3yo.png

Something like this, but with the music notes in the background, plus words (those'll be added later, though).

BTW, I did Magus' face in the flames and the shadows.

Hehe, I forgot bout the whole no Robo or Ayla :) Heh.
I was confused cause the last time you posted a suggestive photo it was really dark. My bad, Yea after I saw it on here the music lines did seem to be faded too much (stupid LCD laptop). Ill see If I can get something done about that this weekend.

Lacour

12-10-2004, 06:28 PM

http://todotradus.com/erezatrans/elsrecordsdelpassat/veryveryold/pictures/chrono.gif

dis dis!! very simple and to the point. and it is in espanol!

SilentMartyr

12-10-2004, 07:50 PM

Those crazy spainiards and thier spanish.

Claado Shou

12-10-2004, 09:15 PM

spainiards

Nice.

Claado Shou

12-12-2004, 08:33 PM

...

...

...BUMP.

moIto pene

12-12-2004, 08:48 PM

since the new "royalty fee" has come up from square, i hope that they dont find this out and try to shut it down like they did with CTR
that would be so friggin retarted and so wrong

Zeality

12-12-2004, 09:47 PM

I heard ellywu updated his Frog WIP at VGMix.

Claado Shou

12-12-2004, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I heard the new version. Very good as well...though there is a minute of silence at the beginning, which is why I think a cleaner version hasn't been posted here yet. When Mr. Wu wants the song to be updated, he'll come here to do so (at least, I would hope).

ellywu2

12-13-2004, 01:33 AM

Speak of the devil!
Yeah i have a new version uploaded, but there is a minute of silence. I'm working on it tonight and tomorrow, hopefully i might get it done soon. Either that or my computer explodes.
At the moment its bordering on 5 minutes, so i need to lose a minute. I'll upload it and see what you guys think.

DarkeSword

12-13-2004, 01:50 AM

since the new "royalty fee" has come up from square, i hope that they dont find this out and try to shut it down like they did with CTR
that would be so friggin retarted and so wrong

The royalty fee doesn't apply to this. It's for performing arrangements of Square Enix music. :roll:

Claado Shou

12-13-2004, 03:22 PM

Alrighty then. This will be my last post in this thread for quite a while, so I'm leaving some guidelines for everybody.

Sadly, by the time finals are over and work can resume unhindered (is that a word?) I will be gone (two days, folks), and I won't be able to do anything. Fortunately, the very respected and well-rounded ZeaLitY has been left in charge until my eventual return, in two to three months.

Additionally, I've decided on the official name of the project, something that will hopefully appeal to more than just rabid CT and CC fans.

Chrono Symphonic - A Cinematic Interpretation

There yar. CTcronoboy will be the one doing the banner work, and all other stuff I leave to the community that has shown an interest in this and supported it. Thank you all.

So, for awhile...

Sincerely,
~.C.S.~