Chrono Trigger: Chrono Symphonic - History

[Claado Shou]

Yeah...well, if your tools aren't available yet, then please take a few extra days. But if you're doing the piano thing, and the piano font is already at your disposal, then I would REALLY LOVE to see the piece next Friday. Remember, I'm expecting a lot of stuff to NOT be turned in, which means a lot of makeup work previous to release, and that means a big crunch time for me, the website, and everybody. This plus school (for me) equals painful.

So yeah, we're all trudging ahead. Anything you can get in on time, please do...if not, keep me informed. I don't want to kick you off the project - you WERE the first person I asked to join - but there isn't any room for error here. Sorry.

~.C.S.~

P.S. "Claado of the Past" sounds badass. I'll use it somehow elsewhere. Thanks.

[Compyfox]

As info... IK Multimedia told me via a german retailer that Philharmonik will be shipped within next week. If you need a good piano, simply score it in MIDI and I can port it if you want. I have like 8-10 pianos with different sizes and sounds in my repatoire.

I'll post about the mastering thing in the next days. However, those who participated in Soundtempest's "Aura and Omen" (which is NOT forgotten) know how I want the files for further editing. ;)

Thanks for accepting me in the team.

[Rellik]

No, it's fine, I've got a nice enough piano for my standards - the reason I'm doing piano is because I'm not really willing to try to do a full-fledged orchestral arrangement until I get my hands on Philharmonik :P

Thanks for the info, Compy - mid-next-week is what I heard from Squids, too, although it could be as late as Monday (!!)

Claado, I know this is a challenge for you, probably moreso than anyone else - everyone has crunch times sometimes :P. Obviously if I go the piano route, next Friday will be fine (since it's much less labor intensive) although it is quite a challenge so far - pretty fun, though.

[SirRus]

haha yeah I was wondering what was going on with Aura and Omen, but great to have you working on this project Compy, it shall be most excellent!

[djpretzel]

One of the two things that has been consistent with all official site projects to date has been the usage of an ocremix.org sub-domain for the official project URL, the other being an official torrent tracked via bt.ocremix.org.

It appears a separate domain has been purchased for this project and is already in use.

This is something of an issue, if it's to truly be an ocremix site project, as while the qualifications are minimal, seeing as there's only two of them (with some associated ID3 tagging requirements), to break one is to break half.

I will work on formalizing these requirements and making a sticky in this forum, but in the meantime, I'd like to talk with the powers that be - publicly, on this thread, or elsewhere - about the domain issue. We haven't made an exception yet and I don't really intend to. Perhaps it's not an issue, but I thought I'd raise it in case it is, beforehand.

[The Orichalcon]

can't an ocremix.org domain be redirected to whatever domain they purchased?

[Jillian Aversa]

Yeah, what TO said. Plus, the website at www.chronosymphonic.com has annoying banners at the bottom; I doubt it's actually being payed for... Right? Or am I missing something? :mrgreen:

[Claado Shou]

Ooh, DJP! An honor it is.

About the domain...I fully intend on dismantling that as soon as the project has the OCR subdomain for its address. I mean, I only set it up because of the convenience of the addy (considering the drawn-out name of StarZander's hosting) but believe me when I say I have NO intention on using that as the website placeholder. In fact, whatever you will as to its existence, DJP, I will fully abide by. Totally your call.

I await further instruction. :)

~.C.S.~

[Rellik]

So this won't be my first piece made with Philharmonik after all...

I went ahead and took the plunge on doing another expansive orchestral arrangement, once more armed with a lack of any reasonable set of tools. This is actually going much more smoothly - coming along at a much nicer pace than I expected. Am I allowed to post WiP's in this thread?

[Claado Shou]

WIPs, yes. Finished pieces, no. Confine that to my message box, plz.

~.C.S.~

[Claado Shou]

Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to say that the track list is revamped, with new percentages and all. Check it out.

ALSO, only six days left! I'm checking Friday night (fo sho) so GET YOUR STUFF IN. It would indeed be awesome.

~.C.S.~

[Rellik]

http://www.tjhsst.edu/~alederer/Music/CT_Rellik_WiP.mp3 is what I have so far. I'm fairly happy with how it's shaping up - the main problem is that I can't get what I really want during the heavy section due to unwieldy samples, and the light section isn't quite as "lush" as I think it should be, but it's, you know, shaping up.

I've done a little mastering on it just so I get a better sense of what I'm doing during the process - I'll be sure to remove anything on the Master track that Compy wants me to.

[Claado Shou]

It sounds good. The percussion is a bit sparse, and there's a lot of empty space in the soundscape near the end, but it IS a WIP, so...continue onward.

*contemplates finished product*

~.C.S.~

[djpretzel]

can't an ocremix.org domain be redirected to whatever domain they purchased?

Absolutely, and it sounds like this won't be an issue, but the real point I suppose is that the ocremix sub-domain URL should be the publicized, official URL. Whether the underlying URL is something seemingly official or something off on university webspace doesn't really matter. It's not really a redirection, if you look at the existing site projects - with the exception of KiC, which actually has DNS routing straight to their IP (might be possible for Chrono, too, depending on hosting), everything else is a URL mask, which puts an invisible frameset around the target URL.

Anyways, didn't wanna ruffle anyone's feathers or cause panic, just clarify what's essentially become a policy on these site projects.

[Claado Shou]

Awesome. Yep, definitely like the OCR subdomain idea, DJP. Thanks for stopping by and all that.

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

You can ruffle our feathers any day, pr&tz. :wink:

[sephfire]

You can ruffle our feathers any day, pr&tz. :wink:

sassy :lol:

ellywu2 and I are making progress ... really ... um, promise? ...

8O

RUN!!!

*heads for the hills*

[Blake]

Rellik, I'm really diggin your wip so far. That brass is very oomphy and the percussion right on in the soft section. :D :D :D This is good stuffz.

[Claado Shou]

Yup...good stuffz.

This may or may not be appropriate, but anyway, click the SD3 project banner in my sig. Trying to draw attention to it, y'know, so it doesn't slip away. Considering my song for it is already complete (minus one important aspect) you should check it out.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Hi!

Sorry that I'm late with the infos from my side - but I guess you know the thing with "time issues".

Anyway... regarding the mastering of the whole CD.
I'd say that we have the WIPs first to listen to what can be changed mixtechnically and what not, then the stuff will be fixed (maybe even in private via AIM) and after that I want to have the raw files if possible.


That means for you:
Absolutely DON'T discart your original and/or project files as the project is not finished yet. After it's released you can do with them whatever you want to. But until "Chrono Symphonic" is out, I see this project still as "in progress".


How I want the files:
Well first I thought "render the files without any master reverb" to maybe unify the track with convolution reverb and a designed concert hall I have on my disposal. But I guess that's not possible as everyone has own opinions and likings of the sound. I know from Claado that he at least wants a unified sound, so if you mix, try not to make it too dry. Maybe listen to other productions and aim for the same sound. If you think that your reverb doesn't sound good, we can talk about that and I can look at it if there's some afterediting needed.

It's a thing to discuss if I take control of the master reverb or not. It's up to you.

What's more important to me is the following:
The files have to be mixed properly. That means, if I master the files and don't have a stripped down version of your arrangement for mixing (which would be a lot of work for me and you have to trust my mix - that'll also delay the releasedate) and your mix has issues that I can't fix (mostly volume stuff) then I can't do pretty much. So please think of a proper balanced mix where we can talk about after the WIPs are due to come in.


Now the important part
After we (Claado and I) decided what's okay I, like I already mentioned, want a raw file from you. RAW means: no master compression, limited to -2dB max, stereo wave file. If that isn't possible for you due to filesize or internet speed problems, highend flac or 320kbit mp3 stereo (not Joint Stereo! and not frequency band cropped) are possible too, though not recommended. The rest lies inn my hands.


I'll come back to this topic after the WIP check to tell you where to send the files to for mastering. Until the next major deadline, I wish you a very nice day.

[FM]

Haha, I just had this memory of the deadline being August 16th, rushed to the topic, and then realized I still have three more days. woo!

as for an update, yeah, the arrangement's completley done, and productions about halfway through, I'm just still trudging on.

hey, what's the word on posting WIPs? Do we have to keep them off the internet until the release, or can we post them at the VGM WIP area and the OCR one?

[Antipode]

This is going to be great when it is released. My interest is piqued.

[Claado Shou]

hey, what's the word on posting WIPs? Do we have to keep them off the internet until the release, or can we post them at the VGM WIP area and the OCR one?

WIPs are fine. But e-mail/send the finished product to me, and don't post it publicly online. OR if you do, don't say it's for the project. Keep it secret.

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

For the deadline, mind if I just post a small "Update on Chrono Symphonic" for Compendium news? It'll be a fun precursor to the big birthday bash on the 22nd. I've got a surprise from a well known remixer for that, too!

[Claado Shou]

No, go ahead. It's still going down in September, I hope. Here's to an on-time project, and some kickass WIPS REAL SOON.

HINT HINT

:D

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

Is there any way to plop this in Mitsuda's mailbox?

[Compyfox]

Flac is not just compression, there's still loss involved. I could ask everyone for packing the files as RAR though, in this case the raw tracks are shrinked (settings: Compression - Best, Recovery Record -- results usually in a shrink of 50-70% to it's original filesize) and still in it's original state.


Any feedback on that "master reverb with convolutiion and designed halls"? I'm just curious.

[TrueLugia121]

well technically speaking yeah you can have a lossy compression on music but that audio file's still gonna be played smoothly like it's been played on CD, or so that's what i think.


and about the project who's gonna create the video fer Chrono Symphony?

[Claado Shou]

*ignored audio debate*

Anyway, I take the remixer silence in this thread to mean you're hard at work on your songs. Because TONIGHT IS THE DEADLINE. Hand in a finished arrangement/song OR ELSE. :twisted:

Seriously, though, you will not be allowed to keep your tracks if they're not very very very very near to completion, as can be heard by myself. We can't waste any more time. Foot = down on my part. So get moving.

~.C.S.~

[Claado Shou]

Well...yeah. Whatever. I really don't like the tone going on with this debate, so I have to say that any further posts on the topic will be deleted. I don't want the thread to become a playground for your respective egos (whether defending or attacking, the latter on Grey Ninja's part) so just let it drop. Compyfox is the project master(er) and he's calling the shots on audio quality. So no offense Grey Ninja, but be quiet.

Anyway, as for tracks...they're filtering in, slowly but surely. At least, updates on them. This is serious, people. Please please please please do your best to make this happen. And if there is no music to be had, PM ME ANYWAY. We'll work it out...hopefully.

~.C.S.~

[FM]

well, I was counting on a thing I needed for production to be shipped by the 11th, and it still hasn't arrived (I've contacted the people, and they assure me it's on the way, just a misunderstanding or something), so yeah, here I am, deadline and all with nothing. But like I've said earlier, the song's completley finished, production's pretty close, just waiting on what I need. Sorry for the inconvience, I'll have it ASAP. actually, if you want the opening section today, which is just strings, let me know, and I can do that, but unless it's really neccesary, it'd be more convenient just to submit it a few days late.

[Eon_Blue]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/cscover.jpg

A few minor changes over the last version - namely, it's much, MUCH bigger on my end, so I can get out a 1000x1000 300 dpi version of it - which should be decent for printing up as a cover.

Otherwise, just cosmetic stuff. Added a little green to the planet, fixed some of the star field - gave the clouds a little more definition... extended lavos' comet tail a little bit.

I definitely prefer this title over the last one (the handwritten stuff along the bottom), and I like how the crescent shape is divided in half by the curvature of the planet itself. Works well, I think.

Comments appreciated.

[Claado Shou]

Posts related to the mastering topic are being deleted after I'm done writing this. Just so you know.

FM, get me what you can of the song right now (meaning the little bit you have) and then do the rest whenever you have the chance. It's imperative, yo. 8)

Eon_Blue, it's awesome, dude. Great stuff. I love it.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

One thing from my side. I'm getting PMs already with infos to the raw files. Which is a nice thing, but...

Please send the WIPs to Claado first, I get in touch with him to listen to the files, then we decide what could be "fixed" and get back to you (PM or AIM if we know it), you fix the stuff then I ask for the files for mastering.

Thanks.

[EvilHorde]

Oh man, a trailer for a project like this is such a great idea! Too bad we didn´t come up with it / rip it off in the DSOP-project. Would´ve been so cool.

Well, anyway, best of luck to you with the project. If its anything similar to the material in the trailer this is gonna be a bomb.

[Eon_Blue]

http://www.therighteous.net/eon/cscover.jpg

Made a few changes, but saved over the old version - didn't want to post the image twice - either click the link, or the linked cover above should also have the changes. Just minor stuff - sharpened up the planet, some fixed colors, etc.

[Compyfox]

Just a minor thing, but can we ask for a DVD cover (front and back)? It caused quite a stir as the DOOM project didn't have one. Kthnx.

[Claado Shou]

All the project/cover art (including CD labels) is already done. So it's not a big deal, really.

[Compyfox]

Well not for me, but for those who want DVD covers (see the Doom Desktop fun thread in GD). ;)
I'd also see this as "Wallpaper" for my PC - okay I should better stop now. XD

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

Eon_Blue that is so sweet. Could you put up a wallpaper version, by chance?

[Eon_Blue]

Eon_Blue that is so sweet. Could you put up a wallpaper version, by chance?

Probably. With or without title, and what size? I can only so so large, as the original is only 1000x1000. Resizing won't hurt it too much though.

[Compyfox]

as long as it's at least 1024x768, it's cool for me. Though a bigger version would rock for higher screen resolutions (like 17" LCDs)

[Antipode]

Also, it might be cool to remove the border line in the image so it would work as a wallpaper.

[Eon_Blue]

1024 x 768 looks fine - it's only 24 pixels wider than the original image.

Title or no title - or maybe title in the bottom right corner, smaller than the one on the album cover?

I could do a couple different versions, I suppose.

Also, keep in mind that this isn't the official artwork - not sure who's putting that one together.

[Compyfox]

I always saw "this" as official artwork. IMO the best cover out there. But that's just me. Don't mind me, I'm not there.

[Jillian Aversa]

I think the cover art that's been produced is great, particularly Eon Blue's. But so far I haven't found any of the inside CD art very professional looking, to be honest. Maybe Eon Blue could create something to match his stuff? :)

By the way, Claado, I'm gonna be rerecording a tiny segment in To Far Away Times within the next couple days, because we noticed some clipping. But you'll get it soon!

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

Without title & border. Size: 1024x768

[grey_the_angel]

I always find it kinda sad they never seen to include cross when saying chrono. personally, I think cross did better than trigger ever did.

[DarkeSword]

I always find it kinda sad they never seen to include cross when saying chrono. personally, I think cross did better than trigger ever did.

What does this have to do with Chrono Symphonic? :whatevaa:

[Claado Shou]

I always find it kinda sad they never seen to include cross when saying chrono. personally, I think cross did better than trigger ever did.

What does this have to do with Chrono Symphonic? :whatevaa:

Exactly what I thought. Please don't troll, Mr. Grey.

Anyway...haven't posted recently, it's okay. Here's the rundown...

20 of the 25 songs for the project are done. Two more are on their way (they have WIPS ready) and one is almost complete. The last two are in good hands, so they should be in shortly.

Honestly, I think we could have all the music done by the end of the month (maybe a week or two into it, who knows?) but I think chances of Chrono Symphonic being released on time are high.

NOW...I have a few things I need to put out...

Eon_Blue's picture is the planned front cover. If you'll look in the Project Art folder online (http://symphonic.herograw.com/CDArt/) you'll find the following pictures:

-Kanjika's picture of the clockwatch (planned back cover)
-Kanjika's picture of Crono and Frog in the rain (planned inside cover)
-FlameStealer's CD labels (planned CD labels)

I like that lineup...it'll likely make for an outstanding printed product. Problem is, I'm not good with Photoshop or Paint. In fact, I downright SUCK. So I want to inquire about somebody being able to put those images to the correct size and shape, ready for printing, looking good, etc.

This is important. If we want a nice-looking project, we need to have nice-looking labels. So please, I implore somebody with mad Photoshopping skeelz to do this. PM me or whatever, but I really need that done. You will be noted and such for preparation, so...yeah. Please volunteer.

Thank you.

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

I think I can do that. But... I dunno, none of the art matches... Might it be better for each artist to produce their own front, back, and inside art, and we can offer sets for people to choose from? That's what DSoP did, and it seemed to work out well. I just think it would look silly to compile all these things together when they are totally different styles.

[Ab56 v2 aka Ash]

I'm gonna just say that I've witnessed this project from the beginning and I liked even just the old WIPs. The final product is gonna totally rock my sox.

CT must be having the best birthday(s) EVER.

I would say which tracks I wanna hear most, but that'd be an insult because all of them are gonna be great.

[StarZander]

I can put together some album art, for all sides, using the logo I made for the website as the basis. Just in case anyone liked the simpleness and white in that, then it might make a nice album aswell.

That is, if anyone would want this?

[Compyfox]

I'm all for alternate art, as long as I can get DVD covers. ;)


Some quick info from my side:
Emperor, sephire and Rellik already wrote me with their files. I'll take a listen in the next 24-48 hours and get back to you. I just hope you sent Claado the files too. And don't rush things just yet. We're still in wip finishing and postproduction stage. ;)


Back to the thing with convolution reverb:
In short "convolution reverb" is having the "reverb" of a room as kind of fingerprint that I can modulate over the recording/sound.

My question still remains. I got two positive answers so far:
Are you interested in letting Chrono Symphonic sound as if it was recorded in (example, however a huge example) the Sydney Opera hall or an other popular performance hall (of course I can go with smaller rooms too - still have to do some tests).

If all or the majority agrees, then I'd ask you to prepare the raw files WITHOUT master reverb as this will be my job too. I'll do some tests over the weekend and will get back to next week to tell you what's possible and what's not. I just want you to think about it. If you say "no" - fine with me. Just thought that Chrono Symphonic is special and we can raise the quality "a tad higher" than it already is. ;)


With this said... I'm off again.

[Jillian Aversa]

That'd be cool, Star Zander. Your stuff is elegant. ^_^

[DarkeSword]

I'm all for alternate art, as long as I can get DVD covers. ;)


Some quick info from my side:
Emperor, sephire and Rellik already wrote me with their files. I'll take a listen in the next 24-48 hours and get back to you. I just hope you sent Claado the files too. And don't rush things just yet. We're still in wip finishing and postproduction stage. ;)


Back to the thing with convolution reverb:
In short "convolution reverb" is having the "reverb" of a room as kind of fingerprint that I can modulate over the recording/sound.

My question still remains. I got two positive answers so far:
Are you interested in letting Chrono Symphonic sound as if it was recorded in (example, however a huge example) the Sydney Opera hall or an other popular performance hall (of course I can go with smaller rooms too - still have to do some tests).

If all or the majority agrees, then I'd ask you to prepare the raw files WITHOUT master reverb as this will be my job too. I'll do some tests over the weekend and will get back to next week to tell you what's possible and what's not. I just want you to think about it. If you say "no" - fine with me. Just thought that Chrono Symphonic is special and we can raise the quality "a tad higher" than it already is. ;)


With this said... I'm off again.

Well I had mentioned this to you on IM before, but I don't think we should have the album sound as if it was performed in a concert hall. It's supposed to be a movie score, so it should have more of a hollywood studio sound to it.

[Compyfox]

Well... who said I use the reverb on "full bleed"? ;)
And example of "too much reverb" would be Jared Hudson's "The Frontier". Though I'm sure it wasn't the reverbs fault, but more like the premixed samples (Jared if you read this, that doesn't mean that your song is bad - it's just not what I'm looking for soundtechnically).

Nah... like I said... I'll do some tests in the next days (someone want to give me a clean demo for that?) and then present you some settings.


Of couse I don't want to use a big reverbing church, but a nice hall with woooden walls, stuffed chairs and a very neutral environment? Why not? The "Zelda Orchestra" version and "Final Fantasy" Tribute CD from 2002 was also recorded in a big concert hall, and still it sounds great and not too persistent. Merregnon for example is a bit "dry" in my opinion (due to the fact that the room was pretty small too - so the natural reverb is pretty small and almost not noticable too). But using "fingerprints" is nothing that couldn't be handled with some tweaking of the dry/wet dial.

I respect your opinion though, DarkeSword. Maybe you change your mind after the demos? Of course Claado also has the final word on that too. So I better push the demos out soon. ;)

[Claado Shou]

pixietricks: Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

ashb56v2: Thanks for the compliments. Yes, indeed, I think the project will turn out amazing as well. It's all up to the team effort now though, so...yeah.

StarZander: Hell yeah. 'Nuff said.

Compyfox: I really want it to sound like a Hollywood studio performance, not the stage-set orchestra type, y'know. What DarkeSword said. Talk to me on AIM or PM me, so we can go over it a bit more.

ALSO, 21 of the 25 songs are complete. My own song, Track 7, is finished, so only 4 more to go, mastering, planning, and then...THE RELEASE!!!!

:D

~.C.S.~

[Tyler Heath]

hey guys, I'm done with mine.




yeah, I'm back.

[Jillian Aversa]

Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

I see your point. People can still choose to go the "hodgepodge" route even if there are matching album arts offered, right? I just think that we'll get comments on professionalism if we don't at least offer some matching stuff, and there are probably more people out there who would prefer the coordinated look. No biggie. ^_^

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, I suppose I see what you're saying rather well. It all depends on who designs what, and whether or not it's any good. That'll really be the deciding factor in that regard.

Also, 22 of the 25 are complete. Only 3 left to go, and we'll be there. Hooyah!

...

...it's a Navy thing.

~.C.S.~

[DarkeSword]

You should keep the concept in mind when you're doing all of the art for this thing; how would you promote this as a movie soundtrack? It's got to have a unified look; it needs to be 'branded.'

[ellywu2]

Hi there. As i'm sure you're aware, i lost the majority of my files a few weeks ago. I've completely lost the original of Frog's intervention :( I still have Schala and the Queen minus pixies wonderful vocals and the other song of mine. Do you want me to remove all reverb and then send them to compy for mastering? sorry i get confuzzled very easily.

[Claado Shou]

Yes, send them to Compyfox. WAV files, no mastering. Etc. etc.

~.C.S.~

[Claado Shou]

Sorry for the double post, but I just had to say this:

ONE MONTH LEFT!!!

That is all.

~.C.S.~

[Eon_Blue]

...I've completely lost the original of Frog's intervention...


...

8O

:(

So what's the status on that one then? Are you working on re-doing it?

As for the artwork, I'm working on a back cover right now for the tracklist and whatnot. I'll also come up with an inside cover for screenshots of the game, some other stuff about the album. It's all still very wip-ish right now, but it's coming along.

Claado asked me to do this AGES ago, and I've only gotten this far with it, so it's pretty high on my priority list, especially considering how close we are to the end.

[Claado Shou]

I got a car. My first car. It's used ('98) but it's awesome. I like driving it.

Anyway, get that artwork in. The music is coming along ATM, and we'll be getting the mastering done, as well as finalizing the other stuff, then get some filespace for mirrors.

BTW, anybody want to put themselves down for mirroring the project? That would help a LOT. Thanks.

~.C.S.~

[KyleJCrb]

I got a car. My first car. It's used ('98) but it's awesome. I like driving it.

Anyway, get that artwork in. The music is coming along ATM, and we'll be getting the mastering done, as well as finalizing the other stuff, then get some filespace for mirrors.

BTW, anybody want to put themselves down for mirroring the project? That would help a LOT. Thanks.

~.C.S.~

*raises hand* Always willing to help.

[Claado Shou]

Awesome awesome awesome. Thanks a bunch Kyle.

Anybody else?

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Some quick update from my side:
Time is getting pretty tight. Just got the WIPs now. I'll listen to them "tomorrow" (around noon), ask for some changes (if needed) in a textfile or something like that and then I'll definately ask for the RAW wave files from you. I'll even set up an FTP for you that you can... uhm... abuse. ;)

Please... the next 2 weeks will be a lot of work. Please have an eye on the page and help finishing this project till the US birthday of "Chrono Trigger".

Planned schedule the next days (from my side):
WED - Convolution Reverb Demos, listening though the WIPs (that're available so far), writing a feedback and fix-list

THU - if not published wednesday, then the feedback & fix-list will be published now. I'll also give you a FTP account on my server for uploading the WAV files.

THU to SAT - You have time till saturday evening to fix all stuff

SUN 4th September to WED 7th September - I want all fixed, clean and prepared (-2dB) RAW wave files (who's on dial, can use FLAC too) in that time, please. If you're late, it's not my fault that Chrono Symphonic will be postponed (mastering takes time, I want to take time for it and I can only master the whole CD if I have all files). So please keep that in mind.


Till tomorrow.


ADDITIONAL STUFF:
RELLIK: Sorry bro, didn't get your wave files so far. I'll just ask for them after I listened to the WIPs. That wasn't a bit clear from the start.


CLAADO: I can't offer another webspace. But I will definately make the torrent seeds (in feedback with DJP of course) and seed them (if you don't handle that already). I'm still thinking about what file-formats to offer, too.


EDIT:
Change of plan due to my health atm (I hate being sick). Sorry. I try to get the stuff running the next days.

Again, I'm really sorry.

[Rellik]

Hey, Compy, ask Claado to send you the file, if he hasn't - it's uploaded at my webspace, anyway. Sorry, am on vacation, must be brief.

[StarZander]

About the mirroring... how many megabytes are we talking about here? 80? 100? More?

[herograw]

the bandwidth and webspace for both herograw.com and herograw.net will be doubled within the next week so yeah... put whatever.

[Claado Shou]

About the mirroring... how many megabytes are we talking about here? 80? 100? More?

More or less 100 MB. The files will be 128 or 160 kbps, and there's going to be something like 85-90 minutes of music, so...something around 100. Can you mirror for the project? :D

~.C.S.~

[FM]

Hey, I uploaded mine.

[StarZander]

About the mirroring... how many megabytes are we talking about here? 80? 100? More?

More or less 100 MB. The files will be 128 or 160 kbps, and there's going to be something like 85-90 minutes of music, so...something around 100. Can you mirror for the project? :D

~.C.S.~

Not sure yet. I might be purchasing real webspace soon, if I can afford it. If I do, I can mirror. But it's not decided yet.

[Dr. Robotnik]

Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

I see your point. People can still choose to go the "hodgepodge" route even if there are matching album arts offered, right? I just think that we'll get comments on professionalism if we don't at least offer some matching stuff, and there are probably more people out there who would prefer the coordinated look. No biggie. ^_^

i STRONGLY disagree with the "hodgepodge" route for the project's artwork. as professional as this production is sounding, it should have consistent graphic reprentation that reflects the theme of the project, as well as the level of quality. to accept a mish-mash of art with one piece looking photo-realistic, another done with pastels, and another with a completely different font-style, to me would denote the project consisting of country, classical, and techno. yes, it's easy to just take the submissions you get and combine them, but if there's any art direction to be given for this is that there should be ONE SINGLE THEME for all the art, just as there is one single theme for the music, and that is the Chrono Trigger movie.

i do very much like the work that eon blue has done, but i think the overall theme could be tightened up a bit between the few of them. this site produces some amazingly professional work, and the art chosen to represent it should not be taken lightly.

[sephfire]

Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

I see your point. People can still choose to go the "hodgepodge" route even if there are matching album arts offered, right? I just think that we'll get comments on professionalism if we don't at least offer some matching stuff, and there are probably more people out there who would prefer the coordinated look. No biggie. ^_^

i STRONGLY disagree with the "hodgepodge" route for the project's artwork. as professional as this production is sounding, it should have consistent graphic reprentation that reflects the theme of the project, as well as the level of quality. to accept a mish-mash of art with one piece looking photo-realistic, another done with pastels, and another with a completely different font-style, to me would denote the project consisting of country, classical, and techno. yes, it's easy to just take the submissions you get and combine them, but if there's any art direction to be given for this is that there should be ONE SINGLE THEME for all the art, just as there is one single theme for the music, and that is the Chrono Trigger movie.

i do very much like the work that eon blue has done, but i think the overall theme could be tightened up a bit between the few of them. this site produces some amazingly professional work, and the art chosen to represent it should not be taken lightly.

... especially now that we have a single audio technician handling production. That will make all of the tracks on the album feel a bit more consistent with each other. I personally think it would be good to reflect that consistency in the album art.

However, that's only one guy's opinion.

[Blake]

Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

I see your point. People can still choose to go the "hodgepodge" route even if there are matching album arts offered, right? I just think that we'll get comments on professionalism if we don't at least offer some matching stuff, and there are probably more people out there who would prefer the coordinated look. No biggie. ^_^

i STRONGLY disagree with the "hodgepodge" route for the project's artwork. as professional as this production is sounding, it should have consistent graphic reprentation that reflects the theme of the project, as well as the level of quality. to accept a mish-mash of art with one piece looking photo-realistic, another done with pastels, and another with a completely different font-style, to me would denote the project consisting of country, classical, and techno. yes, it's easy to just take the submissions you get and combine them, but if there's any art direction to be given for this is that there should be ONE SINGLE THEME for all the art, just as there is one single theme for the music, and that is the Chrono Trigger movie.

i do very much like the work that eon blue has done, but i think the overall theme could be tightened up a bit between the few of them. this site produces some amazingly professional work, and the art chosen to represent it should not be taken lightly.

... especially now that we have a single audio technician handling production. That will make all of the tracks on the album feel a bit more consistent with each other. I personally think it would be good to reflect that consistency in the album art.

However, that's only one guy's opinion.

I agree with the consistency thing.

[Claado Shou]

Well, it's not like the music from this project is all of one style anyway, so what makes the artwork need to be any different? I personally think the "hodgepodge" effect would be an interesting way to go about the entire thing...I mean, it represents the album itself, right? My two cents, however...any good album art that can convince me will still get a fair shot, because if there's one thing that can be said about me, it's that I'm open to suggestions.

I see your point. People can still choose to go the "hodgepodge" route even if there are matching album arts offered, right? I just think that we'll get comments on professionalism if we don't at least offer some matching stuff, and there are probably more people out there who would prefer the coordinated look. No biggie. ^_^

i STRONGLY disagree with the "hodgepodge" route for the project's artwork. as professional as this production is sounding, it should have consistent graphic reprentation that reflects the theme of the project, as well as the level of quality. to accept a mish-mash of art with one piece looking photo-realistic, another done with pastels, and another with a completely different font-style, to me would denote the project consisting of country, classical, and techno. yes, it's easy to just take the submissions you get and combine them, but if there's any art direction to be given for this is that there should be ONE SINGLE THEME for all the art, just as there is one single theme for the music, and that is the Chrono Trigger movie.

i do very much like the work that eon blue has done, but i think the overall theme could be tightened up a bit between the few of them. this site produces some amazingly professional work, and the art chosen to represent it should not be taken lightly.

... especially now that we have a single audio technician handling production. That will make all of the tracks on the album feel a bit more consistent with each other. I personally think it would be good to reflect that consistency in the album art.

However, that's only one guy's opinion.

I agree with the consistency thing.

Yeah, in retrospect, a lot of these points make sense. As long as a single consistent high-quality album design is found, it'll be included.

ALSO...and this is important...the two CDS will have different names. They are:

-Disc the First: Fire/Light (Tracks 1-14)
-Disc the Second: Shadow\Ice (Tracks 15-25 [including the four special audition tracks])

I think the names and distributions of music work well with each other...the first CD is music of the past, present, and future, with the music more based on light and hope, more on the main characters. The second CD is based almost exclusively in Zeal, and is more based on ice and despair, appealing more towards the evil characters, the trip into darkness. So I think it'll work out.

Thoughts?

~.C.S.~

[sephfire]

Yeah, in retrospect, a lot of these points make sense. As long as a single consistent high-quality album design is found, it'll be included.

ALSO...and this is important...the two CDS will have different names. They are:

-Disc the First: Fire/Light (Tracks 1-14)
-Disc the Second: Shadow\Ice (Tracks 15-25 [including the four special audition tracks])

I think the names and distributions of music work well with each other...the first CD is music of the past, present, and future, with the music more based on light and hope, more on the main characters. The second CD is based almost exclusively in Zeal, and is more based on ice and despair, appealing more towards the evil characters, the trip into darkness. So I think it'll work out.

Thoughts?

~.C.S.~

Hehe, the titles sound like they could be the next generation of Pokemon titles. :lol:

I like them though. I think they could fit pretty darn well.

[Dr. Robotnik]

thats an awesome idea. it'll really help set the mood for the two discs.

[Jillian Aversa]

I vote we get Eon Blue to do official, matching CD art. His cover is gorgeous, and I doubt it'd take him too long to produce some matching stuff. It doesn't have to be quite as fancy as the main pic.

I heard on the VGDJ thread that this project is scheduled to be released Tuesday? Is that true? If so, we have to get cracking! :D

[RoeTaKa]

I heard on the VGDJ thread that this project is scheduled to be released Tuesday? Is that true? If so, we have to get cracking! :D

What? That better not be true.

[Navi]

I'd offer a mirror, but my server is still taking hits from DSoP. :(

Gud luk tho. ! :D

[Claado Shou]

I forgot to mention that it was Tuesday the 27th...figuring everyone reading knew it was that date. My bad. I corrected myself though, so no worries.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Sorry that I'm late with my stuff. I'm kinda stuffed with work atm (before that I was knocked out ill). But I'll post the songinfos (and what to change - maybe) A.S.A.P.

*night is still young*

[Eon_Blue]

I vote we get Eon Blue to do official, matching CD art. His cover is gorgeous, and I doubt it'd take him too long to produce some matching stuff. It doesn't have to be quite as fancy as the main pic.



http://www.keeblerconvenience.com/images/tony-thumbs-up.jpg


Workin on it.

[Liontamer]

Did a Wikipedia page for the project based on a template from CyberSkull's edits to my Relics of the Chozo Wiki entry (which I also updated). Check it out at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Symphonic, and of course Andrew, Zeal or anyone else that can genuinely contribute to the page is encouraged to fix any potential inaccuracies and provide additional details for the project, most notably the script, which deserves a thorough, but brief & seperate section immediately after the text I wrote.

If you don't have a Wikipedia account, register one so I know who's making changes. Feel free to make edits, but try to keep the formatting so far intact, to stay consistant with the other projects covered so far. I'll be checking on it of course. OMG, iz dis 0ne Sim Fonik? (http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00988/)

[Claado Shou]

Holy crap, Liontamer. That's amazing. Really, that is AMAZING. I had no idea that people were so gung-ho about the project. I am VERY flattered.

I'll make edits as necessary, but that pretty much sums up what any reader needs to hear to get them interested. Thanks a LOT. This'll be freaking sweet.

~.C.S.~

[Red Omen]

I hope you'll feature us on VG Frequency when the time comes. If so, I'll more than likely be available for an interview, should you feel so inclined.

[StarZander]

I got a fanmail, from some guy in Germany, who at first thought that I had made the entire project, just because I made the website. I then explained it all to him, and then he told me to let the rest of you read his mail. I will post all the mails:

hello,

well... i don't know what to say... i saw the trailer and loved it the
very moment i enjoyed
your recreation of the music.
i love CHRONO TRIGGER with every particle of my existence and played it
maybe about
70 times (a guess but close to the real number!).
i enjoy the music since 1995 and can't stop to listen to it, so if there
is any way i can lend you
a hand... please tell me.

sincerely,

markus schlüter - germany


Heh, I would thank you with all my heart, but it's not my work. I only made the website for the project. The trailer was put together by the project leader, Claado Shou, and the music was made by many many talented people, from the forums of http://www.ocremix.org, so I can't take credit for anything really. I'm just happy to have made my small contribution to such a great project.

would you please send the info to Claado Shou and some of the other
people - of course,
only if that isn't too much work - because i don't have any idea how to
find out there names
and e-mail addresses.

gratefully,

markus schlüter

ps.: if there wasn't the website i wouldn't have found the page and info
so my honest thanks to you, too. ;)

[Claado Shou]

That is very cool, StarZander. I didn't realize somebody could watch the trailer and not have heard about the project elsewhere (has it spread that far?) but I still appreciate his enthusiasm.

That reminds me, I need to redo the trailer with the new website addresses and all for the official project page...I should get on that in a few days...

As for Red Omen's suggestion, it would be awesome if Liontamer would invite us to his radio show. I mean, I'm always free, especially Saturdays.

HINT HINT LARRY

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Unfortunately VGF isn't on anymore as Larry's not in Atlanta either (for over 3 months now or so). So... sorry about that.

Markus Schlüter... Germany... That name sounds familiar. But I don't know where to put it. Really. Mabye it's just my imagination.


Hm... new Trailer? But please different cuts and stuff. That really didn't fit to the music in my opinion. heh. And I'm still not mentioned on the Page, Claado. ;)



*still on listening through the songs, will post tonight - sorry for the delay... Hemophiliac... get your WIP to me, will ya? ;)1*

[Claado Shou]

Unfortunately VGF isn't on anymore as Larry's not in Atlanta either (for over 3 months now or so). So... sorry about that.

Hmm, that's too bad. Would've been nice to get some radio coverage from the Oji-man himself.

Hm... new Trailer? But please different cuts and stuff. That really didn't fit to the music in my opinion. heh. And I'm still not mentioned on the Page, Claado. ;)

Well, those were honestly the only good scenes from the CT cutscenes, so there's nothing I can do about that. As for the website page, StarZander should have updated it by now...several days ago, in fact...

*e-mails StarZander*

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

There are lots of other radio shows, I think. I've been meaning to get on one for the Compendium or something. Maybe I can hitch a ride with the Symphonic crew if an opportunity opens up.

[Claado Shou]

There are lots of other radio shows, I think. I've been meaning to get on one for the Compendium or something. Maybe I can hitch a ride with the Symphonic crew if an opportunity opens up.

VGDJ is probably the best place to announce it out loud to the community, and I think that'll be the only pre-release radio show we can do. It would be nice to do others afterwards, sort of a post-reveal advertising scheme ( :twisted: ) but it's all up in the air right now.

And I don't know what Rayza and Aurora would think of having both of us on there, ZeaLitY, though you've been the only person here the entire time from the beginning, and the Compendium is our partner-in-crime...might be an appropriate pairing.

We'll see what happens.

~.C.S.~

[DarkeSword]

Maybe I missed this, but are we going to be notified indiviually when our wave masters are needed?

[Compyfox]

:arrow: INFO:
I'm posting the first CD for postproduction now, and the second one later due to my lack of sleep (and I still have to listen to like 5-7 songs). Sorry about that. I'll also post after the second postproduction info where to put the "now" finished WIPs/RAWs or how to contact me for questions.

You have time till Thuesday 8th September, if that's not possible then till 10th September LATEST! No late deals please. We have a tight timelimit. Thanks for your efforts with the changes. Now on to the infos:



CHRONO SYMPHONIC
----------------

:arrow: Postproduction state - 06SEP2005
Stuff that is still WIP is marked as [WIP]
Stuff to change is marked as [POST]
Stuff finished and ready for mastering is marked as [MASTER]

I mention the stuff that could be changed as brief form. I know that behind all tracks are a meaning and I don't want to limit your artistic skills. But as engineer in the postproduction and mastering section I have to have an open ear too. Especially if he project has to sound as one. So please accept my wishes and please change them with care. Thanks.


:arrow: SIDENOTE:
If we really want to have a total unified "soundtrack" I would have asked you to change the pannings of the orchestra too (not only to remove the reverb in the RAW file for Convolution Reverb). But due to the fact that a lot of you are using different orchestras (free SF2s, Garritan, EWQL Orchestra, Miroslav Philharmonik, Hardware and software mixed, etc) it's almost impossible to do so. The next thing I'm asking you is on a totally volunteery base. You don't have to do it, but it'd help the overall project sound. Else the whole CD sounds like a "moving experimental orchestra", which can sound interesting too (for example, the Akira OST had changing positions from the choir to let it sound more rich and interesting - Japan and Germany recently did a "moving experimental orchestra" too with asian sounds moving around in the room and part of the orchestra shuffling seatings). But I guess Claado had some certain "soundideas" in mind. And the variating pannings totally shuffles that around.

Keep in mind, it's not a must for you to do it. It's on a volunteery base. But if you agree to do so, please have an ear (and eye) on the following:
- Piano in the center, lower piano note sound is panned to the left, the higher to the right
- Percussion (all types, toms and Taiko count to that too) spreaded in the center "behind" the strings and brass section
- Harp to the left side of the orchestra

The brass and woodwind section also changes in most of the tracks. Let's just pretend that this is a "big orchestra" and that there can be some changes in the sound too. Let us also pretend that the mixing engineer had certain settings for the songs planned (sometimes brass louder, sometimes more quiet - sometimes the woodwinds a bit more left panned, sometimes center, etc). We're not uber-professionals and not perfect either. But we at least give our best, do we? ;)


:arrow: SONGINFOS FOR POSTPRODUCTION TWEAKINGS:

CD01

01 - Sephfire - Inciting Incident [POST]
- Taikos/Toms more quiet and in the back (at least around 3dB less), they're just too dominant and that doesn't work here. The part around 1:00 to 1:15 is more the sound it should have (or at 2:30). If it's still too dominant, please add a "slight" reverb to drown it a bit
- Hats and Triangle a bit more quiet - remember this is an orchestra
- give the lower string section a bit more volume (a subtile +1dB should do it)


02 - Sephfire and SirRus - Morning Sunlight [POST]
- The Piano could be louder (maybe +3dB max?) and less reverb please
- the part till 1:20 is okay, but then the pizzicato strings drown in the mix. Spread them out a bit (pan) and make them a bit louder too
- Second Piano part a bit louder (+1,5dB to +2dB max I'd say) and less reverb.
- The piano at the end drowns again, too (around 3:30)
- Maybe the woodwinds (flute) at 4:00 also a bit louder.


03 - DarkeSword - Blue Skies over Guardia [POST]
*I know this song is on OCR already, still I ask you to change it, please - adds a bit more variation to the project too as this song is already known for a long time now*
- definately turn down the ride and let it drown more in the back (it sounds too synthetic IMO too)
- please use different claps (maybe I can find some orchestra claps for that purpose - I keep you informed)
- Piano maybe a tad louder (+1dB to +1,5dB max)
- No Fade out please. Can you do a sudden ending? Adds power, keeps up the "happyness" of this track and is a better start for the next track


04 - Sleepy Emp - To Lands Unknown [POST]
*this is more the sound I have in mind of an orchestra. Is this really a tracker only?!*
- can you please remove the fade in?
- Harp maybe a tad louder (+0,2dB to +0,5dB)
- you can go a bit more wild on the snare (make it louder, it doesn't hurt the song, hehe - maybe up to +2dB max?)


05 - Lunarheart - Darkness Duelling [POST]
- please add at least 2sec of silence before the track, cause the low taiko sounds so sudden like "in your face". Or try this: 2 taiko hits without the piano before you set in with the track, also with a bit "silence" before the first hit
- can you pan the strings out a bit? The track is a bit too strong mixed to the left side (violin 1 and violin 2 to left, viola in middle, cello and contrabass to right - like a modern orchestra seating)


06 - ZAS - Lucca's Arrival [POST]
- please give me at least 1-2sec of silence before the track
- the viola could be a tad more quiet, while the cello's and contrabass could use a volume boost (viola -0,5dB, cello/bass +0,5dB), else the lower section totally drowns in the mix
- the xylophone a bit less reverb please


07 - Claado Shou - Revelation of Fire [POST]
- the violins a bit louder, while the drums could be more quiet (especially in the middle section)


08 - Red Omen - Hymn of Valor [POST]
- The trills with the snare compared to the others could be more dynamic. Not as loud as the regular hits (and fluctuating in velocity)
- the faggot at the beginning and the brass could be a tad louder, the change to the louder section at 0:40 sounds totally strange this way.
- the snaresection starting at 0:40 could be a bit more quiet. It's a supporting beat - okay it should visualise a marching type effect (as with military snares), still it could be more quiet.
- the violins at 1:55 louder. At least +1dB to +2dB (they drown in the mix)
- The sudden push at 2:54 could use a bit more more timpani action
- the horns at that time too, not the trumpets!


09 - EllyWu2 - Frog's Intervention [POST]
- Maybe the piano a tad more quiet (-0,5dB to -1dB max) and less reverb (see the "master reverb" thing in the top of the post)
- Harp to the left please, at the moment the song is really a bit too "center paced" (small panning changes would do, widen it out a bit)
- a bit more emphasis on the horns around 1:50 might help raise the "glorious aspect" of Frog (well he's a knight!), same at around, 2:34 - which drowns a bit here
- add more silence at the end so that the natural reverb can run out properly


10 - PLBenjaminZ - Denadoro Climb [POST]
- I usually love widened and lofi sounding pianos, but can you narrow it a bit and make a tad louder? A tad louder would be more important, maybe even remove the mud from it (which means, better clean than a lofi piano - at least IMO - sounds better at the ending too)
- This songs sounds like a popsong atm. Can you turn down the "drum type" thing at the beginning? Just a tad. It's a bit persitant at the moment.
- maybe it's just me, but the stringsection in the middlepart (1:40 to 2:00) a bit louder? Not needed but maybe a different sound? What do you think?


11 - EllyWu2 - The Masamune [POST]
*I just love the tom/taiko work! The dynamic in the song is really good!*
- Piano maybe a tad... really only a tad (0,5dB to 1dB) louder
- Maybe the section from 0:48 t0 0:52 (the transition) a bit more supporting with the brass. Sounds a bit strange IMO


12 - MV - Darkest Omen [POST]
- maybe the snare a bit more quiet (a tad, max -1dB)
- the snare roll sounds cutted off at 0:30 is that normal?


13 - Sephfire - Confronting the Mystic [POST]
*a pity that this track is so short - Magus IS an important chara in the game*
- Same issue as track 1: the toms/taiko/BD is just too persistant. Could you push the drums (also the hats) a bit more in the back and pan them out a bit? Sounds a bit dead center (try to let the taiko-type thing sound as if it comes from the sides... left and right)
- the cabasa-thing (at the beginning) maybe a bit more subtile mixed? Maybe it's just me.
- One thing to let it sound more dramatic (IMO) is the flute in the middlesection (around 1:10) - a bit louder? Around +1dB. A try can never hurt.


14 - BliziHiZake - Door to the End of Time [POST]
- maybe the harp a tad louder (first section)
- The Xylophone/Glockenspiel thingy a bit more quiet, please (around -1dB perhaps?!)
- try to push the piano in the middle (or a bit of center to the right). It really competes with the harp
- maybe the timpanis more supporting than "attacking". The synthetic beat also a bit more quiet? (around -1dB max here)
- the solo violin to a bit to the right (just a bit away from the center)


EDIT: Updated 06SEP2005

[Claado Shou]

Frog's Intervention isn't a WIP...that's the whole song. If the version you have is 3:41, then that's all there is to it. Really.

Anyway, I'll PM mixers when I reawaken. Just got back from "The 40-Year Old Virgin" (funniest movie I think I've ever seen in a theatre) and now I really need to sleep. So see you all tomorrow.

:wink:

~.C.S.~

[Rellik]

Hey, I got back from my trip early! :D

Is everything going smoothly with my entry and such? I am now ready to do things that can be done.

Bliz, thanks for your comments on the WiP I posted - was in a hurry and didn't get a chance to respond (or at least I don't remember responding - I could check, I guess. :P)

[StarZander]

Markus Schlüter... Germany... That name sounds familiar. But I don't know where to put it. Really. Mabye it's just my imagination.

http://www.markusschlueter.de/? Probably not him though.

[Sleepy Emp]

Thanks for the input, Compyfox. Working on it.

PS. And yes, that's a tracker plus Sound Forge for EQ and reverb effects.

[Compyfox]

Frog's Intervention isn't a WIP...that's the whole song. If the version you have is 3:41, then that's all there is to it. Really.

You should check your WIPs on your FTP, Claado. I found on my backups that the longer version is among it. On your server is only a 0:20s version. Will add the infos later (update the first CD post) along with the second CD.


@StarZander:
Nope, I guess a politic won't write that way. XD
Maybe it's really only my imagination or I met him at a convention or so. Bah... not important atm.


@Rellik:
I'll post infos/fixes to your song later too. Miroslav sounds really agressive and loud, though a bit too much like "Harry Gregson Williams" would do his songs for "Megal Gear Solid". heh.


Later folks.

[Claado Shou]

Alright, yeah, I see what happened. Upload got screwed up at some point, but it's all better now. Full version is in the folder.

I'll send out PMs later today, and I'll redo my own song then as well.

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

Hah, a Chrono site project coming to fruition is like Batman Begins coming out after all the other superhero movies. Roll out the red carpet; the king is stepping out.

[Claado Shou]

Hah, a Chrono site project coming to fruition is like Batman Begins coming out after all the other superhero movies. Roll out the red carpet; the king is stepping out.

True statement.

8)

~.C.S.~

[Blake]

Compyfox did you want us to dry out our songs so there's no verb at all? Or did you want us to keep in the reverb?

[Rellik]

@Rellik:
I'll post infos/fixes to your song later too. Miroslav sounds really agressive and loud, though a bit too much like "Harry Gregson Williams" would do his songs for "Megal Gear Solid". heh.

Ok, good to hear you were able to get to it. (by the way, it's not Miroslav - it's about half SampleTank2 and half free SF2)

[Compyfox]

Onto the next batch of songs. A bit late, sorry for that but you still have time till Thursday 8th September (The sooner the better if your track might still have issues!!!).


CHRONO SYMPHONIC
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:arrow: Postproduction state - 06SEP2005
Stuff that is still WIP is marked as [WIP]
Stuff to change is marked as [POST]
Stuff finished and ready for mastering is marked as [MASTER]


:arrow: SONGINFOS FOR POSTPRODUCTION TWEAKINGS:

CD02

15 - SirRus - Manifest Destiny [POST]
- You have a serious panning problem. Mabye even more in terms of phase inversion (are you using hardware?!). The songs sounds mostly dead center. Only the violin is panned to the right. Also is the later beat.
- Spread out orchestra. You have enough of room.
- Try to fix those issues first and then I can give you better feedback. Atm it really sounds like a one-man performance cheapass keyboard tune. Sorry to say that.


16 - EllyWu2 and Pixietricks [POST]
*on with the lady solo*
- personally I'd use a different mix on the vocals. If possible I want to have them seperated from the song. Sounds to me as they're mudded and I can try to fix that. Also gives me better possibilties for the mastering.
- Taiko work is a bit loud. Though taikos are (warning! Clipping with the Taikos! I hope that's not the case if I get the RAW files). XD
- in the section around 5:15, the taikos could be a tad more quiet (-0,5dB to -1dB)


17 - Hemophiliac - Wings that cross Time [WIP]
*can't go indepth here unless I get the full song, sorry*


18 - Rellik - Beneath the Surface [MASTER]
- Oh... the trumpets compete a bit with the violins
- could you turn down the percussion section (around -1dB to -2dB)? They're a bit too strong. Thanks
- Can the piano a bit more clean (not as dark)? Or isn't that possible from Philharmonik?


19 - DarkeSword - The Black Palace [POST]
*hey! I thought so much reverb is not "soundtrack like"? ;) Very Dark feeling indeed, fits the "Dark Omen" - I wish this could be longer but it loops nice*
- Timpany maybe a bit louder for more "dramatic effect" (+1dB or so)?
- Those staccato strings in the center are nice, but doesn't the "ping pong" pan sound irritating to you?
- A matter of taste, but what would you think if the lower string section is a tad more louder? Not needed though. (maybe it's really the reverb here)
- Even here, if possible, Harp to the left
- Well if you could remove the master reverb for the "Convolution Reverb", that'd be great. I promise to keep the original mood.


20 - Darkesword - Chrono's Dream [POST]
*sounds very FF7ish... Underwater Music anyone?!*
- The tremolo strings could use a wider panning span, the pizzicato's drown a bit in the center paced mix. Try to spread them out a bit (and make the pizzicato's a bit louder, like 0,5dB)
- Same with the woodwind section (try to spread them out a bit
- The asian instruments could easily go a bit "off center" too
- The solo Violin maybe a bit left-off-center?
- Also here, less master reverb (for the RAWs it's an other thing)
*sidenote: I can try to spread that stuff out with plugins, but it won't sound as natural as if you'd do it*


21 - Russel Cox - The Chrono Trigger [POST]
*I hate to tell you what to change, as you have experience in "real orchestration"... but sorry*
- Maybe balancing out the dissonances (faggot and brass) around 1:00? The brass drowns here a bit
- Around 2:40 the brass either more prominent or less promiment. Sounds a bit strange here
*would have loved to hear "Good Friends" at the end of the CD though, but can't be helped, hehe*


22 - Unknown - Parting of Ways [POST]
- can you widen out the strings a bit? The first section is really a bit "center paced". Maybe it's some of the strings you use as this happens in the middle of the song too (around 2:30)
- the bells to the right and the glockenspiel to the left - how about that?
- the piano definately louder (around +1,5dB to +2dB or so) - it really drowns a lot, especially in the later section of the song (with the first guitar in this whole OST!)
- The drum section around 1:00min and 2:30 a bit more in the back if possible


23 - RoeTaKa - The Final Battle [WIP]
*can't go indepth here unless I get the full song, sorry*
- Hints: don't let the drums drown out too much in the background. And there'S a flattering sound all over the song as if you'd use a rotary speaker effect, is that normal? More as soon as the track is finished


23 - PLBenjaminZ - The Final Battle [WIP] *marked as such on purpose!*
- the bells definately more quiet (around 1dB at least)
- this song sounds as if it was squashed through a master compressor. It's... pumping?! o_O
- try to balance out the timpanis in the first part of the song with the second part, they're too loud first, then they drown in the mix
- same with the strings. They drown each other out
- Please redo your mix again. It pans wildly, the compression is too strong (it's randomly pumping and clipping!), the strings drown each other out, the drums are sometimes loud, sometimes not.
- No fade out at the end please


24 - Sleepy Emp - The New Beginning [POST]
- no fade in/fade out please, unless that's crescendo/decrescendo
- a bit more emphasis on the cello/contrabass section, maybe? The part at 0:20 till 0:50 sounds really a bit strange here. Try to balance out the the brass and the strings if possible (maybe adding a warm tuba here?), sometimes the strings are drown out, sometimes the brass
- The drums in the back (part around 1:00) could be louder (don't be scared + 1dB?!), so can some lower brass sections
- same with harp and bells (that'S a matter of taste, though)
*this song has not as much master reverb, imagine if I add some what'd be drown out and what not - just as guideline for mixing: Add a big room or plate reverb with about 30-60% wettness and see what's getting drown and what's not, maybe this helps you for the overall mix. Of course deactivate it again for the postproduction check and completely for the RAW*


25 - Reuben Kee and Pixietricks [POST]
*my most favourite track of this soundtrack so far - good work for both of you - brings me some tears in the eye - though I'd have loved a pure english version on that one... hm...*
- if you could change the the piano so that the lower section is left and the higher is right (as most pianos are mixed this way) this would give more balance to the overall mix. (you know, natural balance with the higher string section left and the lower right)
- This track clips, but I guess you know that already. That's mostly at the louder parts and while the drums (taiko) set in (maybe make them a tad louder here too?!)
- could you put the woodwinds in the middle? Wouldn't that sound a tad better and more "balanced out"?
- I'd like to have the orchestra part and Jill's vocals seperately if possible, also the piano: so it's Orchestra mixdown, piano, vocals). Then I can work better with reverb and mixing.



:arrow: SPECIAL TRACKS:

SE - PLBenjamin - Determined [POST]
- The snare sure sounds as if it's flanged. Remove that please, and make it a tad more quiet (it's the opening I know, but the orchestra drowns in the drums!)
- bells more quiet, same with the xylophone.
- strings and brass sections definately LOUDER! I hear nothing of the orchestra
- no fade out's please


SE - SirRus - In search of the Light [POST]
- There we have it again, panning probs. Widen the material out please. Most of the stuff is dead center. (like I said, it may be a phase inversion problem - the mix "hardware and software" doesn't fit right)
- Please fix the track and get it to me ASAP, then I give further help


SE - Unknown - Predetermination [POST]
*hm... the usual "Tyler Heath" sound from "Aura and Omen" ;)*
- Could you try not to fade the percussion sounds (and maybe make them a bit more quiet or pushed in the back?) - has a nice groove for experimental orchestra though it doesn't really fit 100% (a bit too persistend IMO, just some slight tweaks, IMO)
- The lower taiko/timpani sounds can stand out a bit more IMO, gives a nice OOMPH. Not too much, +1dB max
- oh you're using delay on the song to "widen it". It sounds a bit strange on the violin though. Mabye remove that?
- harp/xylophone tunes a slight tad louder? (+0,2dB to +0,5dB)


SE - Sleepy Emp - The Story Begins [POST]
- hm... the timpani could use a bit more tweaking (volume technically)
- in this case can you maybe turn down the reverb (for the Postproduction preview?)? I'm sure that's the case that the stuff is getting drown out.
- Bells either to the left or right (if possible)
- The part at 1:00 to 1:30 (Magus) could use some snare parts. ;)
- is that a piano at 1:45 to 2:10? Can you make that one louder?
- I'd also go more with the tuba section than with the trumpets (aka, a bit more balanced) at 2:30 or so
- please gimme 1-2sec extra at the end of the song for natural fade out of the reverb



:arrow: SIDENOTE:
That's it for now. We're not yet there with the RAW files, we're still in Postproduction phase (which means: still mp3s for now, you can also leave your reverb in it, but for the RAW wave files please remove the master reverb!). Please fix your issues and send the stuff back to me as fast as possible (if there're more tweaks needed!). After I give my okay on your song, I want the RAW files. I'm posting extra on that one again.

Thanks for your efforts on fixing the songissues.

[Compyfox]

:arrow: FAQ:
I'm getting asked over and over about this, so I wanna emphasize that again:
- For the [POST] stage you don't need to remove the master reverb or mix it down to -2dB!

- As soon as your track is fine and I changed the status to [MASTER], I want your song as clean WAV in -2dB without master compression and master reverb


Thanks!


:arrow: WAYS TO CONTACT ME:
There're a couple of ways to contact me over the internet. I made pictures on purpose against bots and other swarm I don't want to talk to. If you contact me, please include your name in your first message if you're not yet in my AIM contact list.

Try to contact me via AIM or OCR first! That's the best way to get in touch with me. Don't send me files (via AIM) without contacting and informing me first. If you want to send me files via mail/AIM, send the [POST] ones in mp3, [MASTER] in WAV but "packed" in RAR format. If you want to upload the files instead of sending it to me (via AIM or mail), cause your provider doesn't support big filesends or AIM doesn't work, contact me via OCR PM or AIM and I give you access info to a special folder on my FTP for uploading (you don't need to pack the files in this case).


Please stick to the rules. Everyone else who contacts me that I don't know and has nothing to do with "Chrono Symphonic" will be ignored/banned. Sorry.


CONTACT INFO
http://www.studio-compyfox.de/testcorner/contact/aim.png
http://www.studio-compyfox.de/testcorner/contact/email.png
http://www.studio-compyfox.de/testcorner/contact/ftp.png

*I also have a Skype account, but that's only for "interactive feedback" (VoIP) on songs, production issues and bussiness calls. No chat!*



:arrow: ADDITIONAL INFO:
Please keep in mind that I live in germany. That's in central europe and has the timezone GMT+1 (infos on timezones: timetable (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=137,55,25,213,211,136,187,37,19 5,101,56,53,166,102,248,240)). Chances are that you contact me and I'm not there cause I'm pretty busy with other stuff, private issues or I'm simply sleeping (evening in USA is late night till early morning for me!).

In this case, just leave me a message with your name, maybe even link to OCR profile so I can write you back. Or simply try to contact me later again. Thanks.

[sephfire]

Ok, here's what's been going on with me:

My computer crashed and burned Friday night out of nowhere (viruses are my best guess for causation) and since then it won't even run its OS. From the look of things, I'm gonna have to wipe the HD completely and reinstall/reload everything back on.

I'm taking it to a place this afternoon to try and retrieve the data from the HD (and scan it for viruses) before I wipe it all. With luck, nothing has been corrupted and I could be back up and running by tonight. Worse scenario: some junk is lost or I don't get the computer back for a few days.

HOPEFULLY, I won't be losing any of the recently-changed song files and can have those updated wavs to you very soon, Compy. I promise, I'm trying to get things working as fast as I can. Being without a computer for the last 4 days has been driving me insane. 8O

[Jillian Aversa]

Woah, woah, hold up! I thought we were using the piano/vocals only version of To Far Away Times for this project. Reu and I are getting some judges to help decide which one to submit to OCR main, but I was definitely under the impression that for the project, we aren't using the orchestral one.

And so far the judges have liked the piano/voice only one better anyway...

I'm seriously not cool with the orchestrated one being used for this project.

Claado? Reu? Compyfox? What's going onnnnn?

[Claado Shou]

Yes...I had made it a point to bring this up...

In its own right, yes, I think the piano/vocals only version is more powerful. The words are much more striking, the piano more haunting, and the mix much harder to pick apart or dislike. HOWEVER...after being preceded by 24 songs of full orchestral music, very much not in the softer vein of the finale, it just seems very...empty.

I know it's hard to hear, as the non-orchestral version would be nicer, but we do have to think of the unity of the album. Unless the final piece can be mixed to sound fuller, and less sonically bare, then we may not be able to go ahead with that version. Yet again, sorry...submit the vocals/piano only version if you desire, but unless there's substantial/suggestive reason to alter the plan, we should use the more complex arrangement.

Of course...please, please, PLEASE don't be frightened to convince me otherwise.

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

Hehe, okay, my attempts at convincing you:

1. Compyfox might be able to make it sound fuller by mixing the higher piano keys slightly in the right ear, and the lower ones in the left. And whatever else he's capable of doing.
2. It's the credits track, so I think the contrast is actually a good thing.
3. If 1 and 2 aren't enough to convince you, I might have to revoke my vocals... Sorry, but I just *much* prefer the piano/voice only version, and when I started on this project, that's the deal I was presented with. If Reuben's orchestral version had been the original piece in question, I might not have agreed to collab. (Don't hate me, Reu, I love j00r work!)

And believe me, I looooooove this project! That's why I care so much about which version ends up in it. So I hope you'll reconsider... :puppyeyes:

[Compyfox]

I'm just the engineer. I just talked with Jill about that. I'd have loved to release "both" versions (I am even allowed to engineer both), but it's a thing up to Reuben and Jill. If they say "no, orchestra is not good for Chrono Symphonic/OCR", then it's the piano version and I totally accept their opinions.

Please clear that in private and keep me informed. Thanks.

[Claado Shou]

...

Compyfox, see what you can do with both tracks. If the piano/vocals version sounds more fitting into the album than it does now, I will definitely put it into the release. But I have to remain flexible with both options...I can't make promises on one over the other until I hear remastered versions.

This will be very interesting...very interesting indeed...

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Just a quick reminder:

For me (in germany) it's already Thursday, 8th September 2005. Which means: Deadline for the fixed Postproduction files.

Please... get the files to me ASAP! (so I have still time to get back to you in case there're still issues to fix). The timebuffer shrinks and I can't turn the time back as in Chrono Trigger. If I don't have all finished files from [POST] status by Saturday (11th Sep), that project won't be finished in time (we also need at least 3-5 days for page, mirrors, torrent and stuff!)

I won't have to remind you that you volunteered for this project and you're bound to it till it's completition. And I can't complete it if I don't have proper files to engineer.


You also want an as good sounding package as I do, too. Please, spare me some sleepless nights (I surely won't master 29tracks overnight! Especially not orchestra tracks) and a possible heart attack.

[Dahlia]

21 - Russel Cox - The Chrono Trigger [POST]
*I hate to tell you what to change, as you have experience in "real orchestration"... but sorry*
- Maybe balancing out the dissonances (faggot and brass) around 1:00? The brass drowns here a bit
- Around 2:40 the brass either more prominent or less promiment. Sounds a bit strange here
*would have loved to hear "Good Friends" at the end of the CD though, but can't be helped, hehe*


Geez, call it a "Bassoon"! In English, that means something different. XD

[Compyfox]

Sorry, only had the german name at hand. And that's still better than "faggit". *cough*

[Dahlia]

It's funny how we call the "Glockenspiel" by the German name. If it were in English, it'd just be called the "Bell Play". >.>

(Off-topic...)

[Claado Shou]

*laughs quietly at the inappropriate joke*

Anyway...check out the site (http://www.chronosymphonic.com). Some long-desired changes have been made (updated info on all fronts, and some new intros!) and an impressive number of hits on the front page as well. Enjoy.

~.C.S.~

[Mega(C)Trigger X -SAL-]

so how come you can only listen to two songs?

[Compyfox]

Cause Chrono Symphonic is not released yet? Or so...
*don't mind me, I'm totally asleep... zzzZZZ*

[I.Medley]

Those two songs are the teaser songs of the soundtrack. The other songs will be available as soon as the project is released.

[Dahlia]

so how come you can only listen to two songs?

You used to be able to hear them all, but Claado wants them all to himself. :p

[Compyfox]

Actually, no. I have them all too. XD

[Blake]

I'll get on it after sk00l.

[Jillian Aversa]

Site's looking good!

Yo, can you update the teaser for To Far Away Times? That's an older version that has some clipping, and...is orchestrated... :P

(Newer version can be acquired here, but clear your cache in case your browser's storing an older version...)
http://www.fayhaven.com/To%20Far%20Away%20Times.mp3

There'll soon be an even newer one when Compyfox is done, but we at least don't want people downloading the clipping track because they might not think to download again when the project is released.

[sephfire]

If fortune smiles upon me, I'll have my computer back and be up and running by this evening. I'll get to work on your edits as soon as that happens, Compy.

[Compyfox]

kay. All others also think of the deadline?

So far Rellik and Pixietricks/Reuben Kee are the only ones who have an okay already sending me the RAW files.

[Sleepy Emp]

Compyfox, I'll send you the reworked files this weekend.

[FM]

^Same.

[RoeTaKa]

I should be able to get my song complete tomorrow or sunday. Don't know if I missed this out Compy but with the WAV you said no reverb, does this mean you want all the effects/EQ taken off aswell or just the reverb? That's probably a given but I'm not sure, thanks.

[Eon_Blue]

...the album is two discs? Is the tracklist on the first page the final order? And if so, where's the break between discs?

Workin' on the art right now, kind of need to know that.

[Compyfox]

RoeTaKa:
I answered that question further up in a FAQ.

Eon:
Disksplit is 01-14 and 15-25 +bonus tracks
However that with the bonus tracks on the main disk is not sure YET. I'll keep you informed on that.


Those who sent me files, I'll take a listen and get back to you. Those who still have to send me files... GET THEM TO ME!!!!


EDIT:
One important thing!
If you send files to me, put the tracknumber in front of your track. AKA "name them properly". I can't have the complete project in my head you know.

[RoeTaKa]

RoeTaKa:
I answered that question further up in a FAQ.

Oh sorry, I've only been in coordination with Claado untill now. Thanks.

[Claado Shou]

Good news and bad news on the music side of things. Hemophiliac's project file got corrupted, so all of his work was lost. However, I went ahead and did the song myself (rush job, I know :() so Track 17, "The Third Guru", is done.

I NEED people willing to mirror. I NEED album art. And Compyfox definitely NEEDS your raw files. I understand a lot of people are unavailable for whatever reasons, and there's nothing we can do about that...but every raw file helps, so send them in if you have them.

Also, Compy was right...the official split is 01-14 (Fire/Light) and 15-29 (Shadow\Ice). However, there are a few more nuances to it than that...you'll see in 16 days.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

I said it a thousand times now and I say it again cause a lot of you definately can't read!

FIRST THE MP3 FOR ME TO CHECK - THEN AFTER I CHECKED THE FILE AND APROVED THAT IT'S OKAY I WANT THE WAV!

Not sooner!
Saves a lot of trouble for you, and some for me.

Also keep in mind:
I have no SoundClick account and please don't use a webhost where I can't download from.

If you wanna send me the file, I wrote down how to do this on page 75. Please pay a bit more attention!

[Zarggg]

One thing I noticed on the site:

Confronting the Mystic by sephfire
"Seeking revenge for his friend and the chance to rid his world of evil, Frog confronts the Magus of the Mystics, and much ensues."
I think there's a word missing in there. :p

[Claado Shou]

Hmm...I didn't intend for any other words to be there, but this begs the question: is the word "much" a noun?

Dictionary.com writes: "n.
A large quantity or amount: 'Much has been written.'
Something great or remarkable: 'The campus wasn't much to look at.'"

So no, there isn't a word missing. But whatever.

~.C.S.~

[Sleepy Emp]

I'm finally done with my songs. Whew, reworking three songs in a day was quite an experience. I can only imagine the horror that awaits Compyfox when he's going to master the whole soundtrack.

[Compyfox]

I did Joe Cammisa's "Hits & Misses" CD ( www.joecam.net ) in 4 days. 21 tracks, 2 of them in-depth audioengineering (the last 2 tracks).

Now count that up for 29 tracks. I still have 15days left, and only 1/4th of the project "master ready" here on my HDD.

[Rexy]

Just out of question, does anyone have a way I can contact Russel Cox? I tried emailing him but apparantly his email on the forums doesn't exist :(

[Claado Shou]

Russell Cox, by all the means that I have at my disposal, is not available for contact. But that may have changed, so try PMing him. I honestly have no idea.

HOWEVER, there IS something that I can be VERY sure of, and that is the official release date for this project. Considering how close we are to completion, and the significance of the date, I dub

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2005

the official date of release for this project. Further information will be announced later on, but this is the day it's happening, and I hope you all are there to see it.

~.C.S.~

[Jillian Aversa]

Yo, I think I can be a mirror. (Prays her bandwidth isn't exceeded...)

WOOO, getting psyched! And it looks like the Chrono Symphonic coverage on VGDJ is gonna coincide with one of the episodes I'm filling in for Aurora. I'll try to make it good... ^_^

[RoeTaKa]

Woot! I love joining in right near the end, it's like so much to look forward to in such a tiny span of time! I'm working my ass off at the moment, and it's hella sweet. WILL be done by the end of the night.

[Claado Shou]

Good news, RoeTaKa. Good news as well, Jill. This is gonna be so awesome.

*puts Jill down as mirrorer*

*plays Donkey Konga 2*

~.C.S.~

[RoeTaKa]

I've finished my track (arr I want to die it took all day and I'm achey all over!) but it's ok, were all happy pandas now ^o^!

http://berlinbear.com/steiff.gifs/foo.jpg

[Claado Shou]

Happy pandas, aye. Indeed, we are VERY happy pandas. Ecstatic even.

Well, with RoeTaKa's piece finally in, we are officially done with the music arrangement portion of the project. It's all good and we are very much happy with the results...even without mastering, the album sounds whole. At 1:38:48 (98 minutes and 48 seconds for you non-clock-liking types) it is MASSIVE.

However, with TWO WEEKS REMAINING, we still have a lot to do. So be on the watch, and make sure to show your enthusiasm to the whole Chrono Symphonic team. These next 14 days will be a blast!

~.C.S.~

[Zeality]

SELFISHLY REPRESENTING MY OWN INTERESTS, I

hah

would like to just go over the materials to be released in the main torrent or alongside the music. Are we going to have a readme or anything? I've been rolling around the idea of just getting a paragraph from every remixer and participant in other duties about summarizing the project as a whole, just as a capstone to the Extravaganza.

And we are submitting to Slashdot?

[Claado Shou]

Materials to be available on the website:

-the torrent
-the individual files
-links to the interviews, thread, affiliates, etc.
-the album art
-the script and script outline

Info for each song will include Track #, Track name, remixer, synopsis of scene covered, lyrics for applicable songs, and that's all.

The album art will include the track listing (01-29) and a short introduction on the inside front cover. I didn't plan on any readme files (I don't know what we would put in it, honestly) so if you think they're necessary, please elaborate.

As for paragraphs from each remixer, several are unavailable for contact, so that will be impossible/not complete. I would personally just consider the interviews as the remixer input, and leave it at that.

And in regards to Slashdot...I'll let you do the Intarnet pimpage. :D

~.C.S.~

[Mega(C)Trigger X -SAL-]

Those two songs are the teaser songs of the soundtrack. The other songs will be available as soon as the project is released.

it's supposed to be on the 27th or this month, right?

[Claado Shou]

Yep yep. 9/27/05.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

If nothing goes wrong. And there's the point where I step in.

:arrow: :!: :!: FOLKS! GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER AND GET IT TO ME!
You heard that? To "me" (AIM, eMail, PM, whatever!). Namely that's DarkeSword, SirRus(!!! - if someone has contact to him, whip him in here!), Sephire (Track 2 - Morning sunlight, the collab), Red Omen, Tyler Heath (Unknown).
(LT Edit: Hey, that means people see it :-P)

Contacted via another ways are ellywu, Russel Cox, mv and Reuben Kee (they responded and promised to get back to me!).


For this amount of material I need AT LEAST 1 week of work (and still I work like 10-15h a day on it!). If C.S. shall be released on 27th I have to start on thuesday next week LATEST. So get your lazy "backs" up. I want some sparetime too. ;)

Those who sent me the files in the last week, sorry that I didn't respond sooner. But the first [MASTER] files are comming together now.


Zeality:
If you plan on doing an interview with me, please do it "after" I'm finished with the files.


Claado:
I'm still working on that thing I told you about (which might need extra "treatment"). It'll be a last minute thing - though I try to get it done till wednesday next week LATEST. And if I can't reach the deadline (mastering technially cause everything's delayed atm due to several reasons), I beg you... expand the release date even if CT has birthday at 27th sep. *better a good sounding full fleshed and delayed project than a rushed job - works with games too*


*zzzZZZ*

[Claado Shou]

a bunch of childish crap about audio filetype

an answer that should have been listened to and left at that

Grey Ninja, if all you can do is come in here and complain about your own stupid preferences in audio quality, then you might as well just stay away, because I'll keep deleting your posts. It's unwanted bantering and all you're doing is destroying any sort of unity the people that want to hear this project have. Start posting in this thread about relevant, non-quality-related stuff, or stop posting altogether.

Compyfox, no need to reply to his bickering arguments. We all know what's going on, and one troll shouldn't ruin it for everyone. If I see his immature posts, they get deleted. Don't even bother responding.

Also, about delaying the project...that is something I must declare publicly I WILL NOT DO. Everything for the past several months has been centered around getting this released on 9/27/05, and other events, besides the release, have been planned in accordance with that. What HASN'T been a part of the plan the whole time is the mastering, which means it comes secondary to the release. I can GUARANTEE that you won't have all the RAW files on time, and I can tell you right now that waiting for them will delay this project an unnecessarily, if not indecisively, long time. Which is why I have to give my ultimatum: the final songs will be uploaded Sunday the 25th. If I don't have the mastered files, they won't go up. So for the sake of the project, the mastering must meet deadline - if it doesn't, it's scrapped.

Sorry for the bluntness, but there is no compromise on this issue. The release will be the 27th, and that is official.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

Why will you have the files? I'm the engineer, I need the files.

New [POST]/[MASTER] Deadline for the mixers
Monday, 19th September, 12:00pm (the night to Thuesday, GMT+1)


Get the files to me! The sooner, the better. I'm not in the mood anymore writing you up and down what to change. Contact infos on Page 75.

I'm also still waiting for RedOmen and SirRus! It can't be happening that Ravi can't be contacted. Now off you go, and be quick. I can't wait forever.


EDIT
That doesn't mean that I want the "changed [POST]" files by that date, but the [MASTER] files with the okay that I gave earlier. So pull yourself together a bit.

[Dahlia]

Actually, I haven't heard from him in a while either. I wonder where he went...

[Dahlia]

Grey Ninja, if all you can do is come in here and complain about your own stupid preferences in audio quality, then you might as well just stay away, because I'll keep deleting your posts. It's unwanted bantering and all you're doing is destroying any sort of unity the people that want to hear this project have. Start posting in this thread about relevant, non-quality-related stuff, or stop posting altogether.

Yeah, fuck you too asshole. All I asked was what file formats you were going to be included.

I'll quit "trolling" when you answer the question and stop being a dick.

So just out of curiousity anyways, what part of my post was the trolling? Was it the part where I asked that lossless files be included? Was it the part where I asked that I didn't have to tag said lossless files myself? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't make a CD if lossless files were not included? Tell me.

I honestly didn't expect my previous posts to be deleted, otherwise I would have saved a copy. As I expect this one to be deleted, I am going to save a copy for myself, and when it's deleted next time, I am damned well going to try to get your moderator priviliges revoked, as this is just harrassment. And I will KEEP posting this post until my questions are answered.

Viva la revolution!

I'm pretty sure Compy, being a sound nut and all, will want to push for the highest reasonable quality.

I'm just presuming, though...

[Claado Shou]

Grey Ninja, yes, I did delete your post. And yes, I do believe your previous remarks were unwanted. But just to say what's happening, here we are.

We're not using FLAC. Period. Other projects may have used it in the past, and though I've never used it, I'm sure it has the best quality available.

HOWEVER, when a lot of these songs were made, they were given to me in MP3 format, and they lost a lot of their initial quality anyway. Also, those same people that rendered them that way (ellywu2, SirRus, PLBenjaminZ, a few others) are not available, or at least haven't been available in the past, to give us lossless files. So there's really no point in making a bunch of high-quality FLAC files with MP3 sound.

The official torrent will be MP3 files. This will also make it a lot easier for dial-up users to get the music, since the size of the file is much more reasonable. The songs on the website will ALSO be MP3 files, though Compyfox is preparing a non-FLAC special for the release, or shortly thereafter. All the mastering stuff is his doing, so if you have a problem with him in particular, please keep it in PMs to Compy and out of this thread. That's what I ask.

Sorry that you feel like I cut you off, but I honestly do think that after having your questions brought up and responded to many, many pages ago, your second appearance with the same comments and general disrespect (denouncing the project altogether, regardless of the actual music, based solely on filetype) was the beginning of trolling. Not to mention, when you started attacking Compyfox the first time around, your welcome kind of gave itself up.

And don't call me an asshole, because you're just making your own "case" for harassment one big backfire waiting to happen. Bring something other than complaints to the table, please.

~.C.S.~

[Claado Shou]

Just as it's your opinion that I'm an asshole or that you were speaking civilly, it's my opinion that you're being trollish and that I'm justified in deleting your posts. But being that I'm not only the creator of this project, but I also have authority over the activity of this thread, I guess my opinion has a little bit of backing to it. I suppose my being in the military leaves me little room for compassion on issues of people talking back without provocation, but that's just my prerogative.

I'm not deleting your last post for a reason, because it isn't contemptable, like your others. So as long as we can keep this thing in the right realm, we'll be all set.

~.C.S.~

[KyleJCrb]

The way I see it is, this is Claado's project, and he does what he wants. If you don't like it, don't download it, listen to it, or even acknowledge its existance. Simple as that.

In the meantime, the rest of us will be listening to some awesome Chrono Trigger remixes.

[Blake]

Just postin to show that I'm alive. Claado I'm sure you already know this, but the way you're running the project is just fine. I can't wait till this thing is released. It's gonna be badass. 8) We need to start formulating pimpage methods.

[Jillian Aversa]

Ruv and peaaasu! :D

[sephfire]

I've tried emailing Ravi, but haven't heard back from him yet. And I don't have a couple of the instruments he added, so I can't render out a WAV myself. :(

I'll keep trying to get his attention. Does Compy at least have the mp3 to work with if all else fails?

[Compyfox]

I have the MP3. If I know what hardware he used, maybe I can reproduce the sounds he had. If it's the Roland XV5050 (XV5080) or the EMU Virtuoso, then it's the Siedlaczek Orchestra. And I have that one on my disposal (also the EMU Virtuoso).

If not and it's another orchestra, maybe we can still reproduce the sounds. We'll have to see.

YOu got a PM btw.


EDIT: TEMPORAL STATUS

Status [MASTER], waiting for WAVs from the following mixers (unless otherwise mentioned):
Track 01 - Sephire
Track 05 - LunarHeartHeaven (very minimal changes - I trust him in this case!)
Track 13 - Sephire
Track 18 - Rellik (WAV already provided)
Track 25 - Reuben Kee, Pixietricks (still waiting for the clean Piano track)


All other tracks are still in [POST] status. Which is definately not much!

[sephfire]

My WAVs are uploaded and PMed.

[Dahlia]

But it won't be the last you hear of this!

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=drama

(No offense to anyone, just being silly.)

[SirRus]

sorry guys, i just got seph and claados messages and claado asked me to have my stuff together by monday, and i'll have it done.

[Compyfox]

The sooner I have the files for checking, the better. Why doesn't anybody understand that?! *grrr!*


Including the project leader and the mixers... *sigh*

[Claado Shou]

Nice to see everyone has stopped being so uptight, including myself. After the non-CS bull**** I just went through in the last two days, it's refreshing to come back to a sensible, calm environment.

Aside from all of my car problems on Friday night, and THEN the car crash last night (everyone's fine, except for my friend's totaled Hyundai, thank God) I am now better. And no, Grey Ninja, I wasn't apologizing. You're still not openly welcomed in this thread.

But anyway, yes, we do need to get cranking. I'm putting my own two songs through some quality revisions, so worry not about Tracks 07 and 17. Everyone else, WORK FASTER.

:P

(P.S. FFVII:AC pwns)

~.C.S.~

[Blake]

Glad to know you're alright. Oh, and


(P.S. FFVII:AC pwns)


Yes it does 8)

[Compyfox]

FOLKS WHERE ARE YOUR FILES?!

It's Monday 19th September, 3:49am GMT+1 here and I still miss a lot of stuff, not to mention that I don't even know if you're working on the material, got my PMs or what's up in general.

I can't give you another "deadline". I have to start working!

[Rexy]

I've looked into my VGMix mailbox today and I got mail from Reuben Kee. He said he uploaded the backing music to the FTP yesterday.

[sephfire]

Who's files do you still need. Maybe we can all start PM/email spamming them into compliance.

[Compyfox]

Well there's no significant "raising" of the status at the moment, even though the deadline is today - but Monday is not over in the USA yet. A lot of mixers still didn't read their PMs or eMails from me. Neither did they contact me what's going on.


Status so far...

TEMPORAL STATUS

Status [MASTER]:
Track 01 - Sephire (WAV provided)
Track 03 - DarkeSword (WAV provided)
Track 05 - LunarHeartHeaven (waiting for WAV)
Track 13 - Sephire (WAV provided)
Track 14 - Blizihizake (WAV provided)
Track 18 - Rellik (WAV provided)
Track 19 - DarkeSword (WAV provided)
Track 25 - Reuben Kee, Pixietricks (WAVs provided - waiting for an answer to a Q though)


All other tracks are still in [POST] status. Which is still not much!


WAS CONTACTED RECENTLY BY:
SirRus ([POST] in progress, the SE track can't be rescued though)
Emperor ([POST] in progress, will get back to me this night)
Claado Shou ([POST] in progress)
PLBenjaminZ (Well I contacted him, files can't be rescued unfortunately)
mv (via Rexy, mv is in France due to bussiness issues, tries to get back to me in time - not guaranteed)


STILL WAITING FOR LIVESIGNS:
LunarHeartHeaven (Got the okay for [MASTER], didn't get an answer or a file yet)
The ZAS (Still waitng on a new [POST] file)
Red Omen (Still waiting on a new [POST] file, said to me it can take a while)
ellywu2 (still waiting on new [POST] files, just emailed him and wait for an answer, though he answered Rexy)
Russel Cox (still waiting on a new [POST] file, seems to be vanished from planet earth)
Unknown (still waiting for new [POST] files, zircon and I contacted him - no response yet)
RoeTaKa (still waiting for new [POST] files, contacted him via AIM and PM - no response yet)


Folks, that's just dissapointing. Especially if I look at mixers who made more than one song (like 2-3) for the project, letting them catch dust then and think "the engineer will fix that". But I can't without your help.


I was talking with Claado about a possible moval of the release date as he's also thinking about a "non rushed but highend" release. And the more you (the mixers) slow things down, the less time I have for proper mixing, the more rushed (and bad) sounds in the end. We're definitly not planning a delay of Chrono Symphonic, as there're interviews already in the making etc, but I guess you'll leave us no choice. That's a "last minute" thing to decide though. Sorry about that.

Usually I'd get paid for that kind of job - but I said "okay I offer my skills" and I won't let you down, stay till the end. But we all have to work together. Hell I even offer my sparetime (and a lot of health) for Chrono Symphonic. Can't do everything alone, you know. ;)


I'll keep you updated.

[Sleepy Emp]

I've just uploaded my files.

Keep up good work! We're almost there!

[herograw]

okay look,

I just recently get rid of my old webhost because the would not increase my bandwidth. originally my intent was to keep my domain (herograw.com) so that starzander or whoever wouldn't have to change the links. HOWEVER, my old host is taking forever to hand over the domain and this project is waaayyy too close to completion to sit around and hope they hand it over in time.

so I have set up a subdomain at symphonic.herograw.org and a new ftp.

Starzander: the new subdomain is identical to the old one, so just change all instances of "...herograw.com..." to "...herograw.org..." and everything should be peachy.

claado shou: if you want the ftp contact me via AIM.

-rob

EDIT: I don't know why "ftp" is showing up as a link. ignore it.

[Bongo Bill]

How much bandwidth can we expect to use up if we're to be mirrors for this? (didn't read the thread)

[KyleJCrb]

How much bandwidth can we expect to use up if we're to be mirrors for this? (didn't read the thread)

The month the Doom project came out, I aaaaalmost exceeded my total bandwidth (I have a 60 gig alottment, and it ran up to 56 gigs), so you can expect to use quite a bit. Of course, keep in mind that I'm mirroring not only the Doom project, but the Kirby project as well, and hosting personal files and other things I need to host. I'm likely going to bump up my alottment soon, since my space also has to be used for my own project.

[herograw]

How much bandwidth can we expect to use up if we're to be mirrors for this? (didn't read the thread)

when the doom project came out it ran up 171GB on my server, which brought down my webspace for the rest of the month. If we get enough mirrors, though, bandwidth shouldn't be a problem. People worried about exceeding their bandwidth should probably ask to be put near the back end of the mirror list, seeing as first mirror tends to field the most downloads and then second mirror and so on...

[Jillian Aversa]

Could I be towards the back of the mirrors? I'm concerned about my bandwidth. ^_~

[Compyfox]

As long as there're enough seeders, bandwidth shouldn't be that big of an issue. Though there're stil those who leech from the page onl yinstead of provided torrents.

[Bongo Bill]

I have 100GB a month, and I'm not using this site for anything else, at all, so I guess you can count me in.

This is probably going to generate more attention than the Doom project, 'cause of how popular Chrono Trigger is.

[KyleJCrb]

I have 100GB a month, and I'm not using this site for anything else, at all, so I guess you can count me in.

This is probably going to generate more attention than the Doom project, 'cause of how popular Chrono Trigger is.

My thoughts exactly.

[StarZander]

Could I be towards the back of the mirrors? I'm concerned about my bandwidth. ^_~

I am going to, by request of CS, write some code for the site, so that there is only one download link for every song, but this link randomly selects one of the existing mirrors. This way one mirror won't be flooded with downloads, hopefully.

[Blake]

Could I be towards the back of the mirrors? I'm concerned about my bandwidth. ^_~

I am going to, by request of CS, write some code for the site, so that there is only one download link for every song, but this link randomly selects one of the existing mirrors. This way one mirror won't be flooded with downloads, hopefully.


damn that would be some skillz.

[TrueLugia121]

not to hurry anything up here but RoeTaka why is it taking you so long to get started on Track 23 of Chrono Symphony?

[Compyfox]

I already have RoeTaKa's Master file. I'll give an update on the status with the other files/mixers later.

[TrueLugia121]

shouldn't he get started already? the albums nearing the deadline right?

[RoeTaKa]

shouldn't he get started already? the albums nearing the deadline right?

Didn't you read what Compy said, I've given in my master file, that means I'm completely finished. Geez, how ambitious? Haha.

[TrueLugia121]

i'm not being ambitious about anything i'm just lookig to know if you've got it done that's all

[Compyfox]

I told you I already HAVE his master files. If there's something to bitch about, then it's those who're late with their files, even though I set a very final deadline. And that's SirRus, ellywu, Unknown (though he has a hurricane comming towards his place), ZAS, mv (he has a comission going on at the moment) and Russel Cox.


TEMPORAL STATUS
Postproduction: 45% (+17,2% lost/unsure files)
Mastering: 0% (due to the missing files to complete a CD)

Design: 85% (Eon Blue)
Additional stuff: 10%


Status [MASTER] Files:
CD01 (08/14)
Track 01 - Sephire (WAV provided)
Track 03 - DarkeSword (WAV provided)
Track 04 - Sleepy Emp (WAV provided)
Track 05 - LunarHeartHeaven (WAV provided)
Track 07 - Claado Shou (WAV provided)
Track 08 - Red Omen (WAV provided)
Track 13 - Sephire (WAV provided)
Track 14 - Blizihizake (WAV provided)

CD02 (06/10)
Track 17 - Claado Shou (WAV provided)
Track 18 - Rellik (WAV provided)
Track 19 - DarkeSword (WAV provided)
Track 23 - RoeTaKa (WAV provided)
Track 24 - Sleepy Emp (WAV provided)
Track 25 - Reuben Kee, Pixietricks (WAVs provided - waiting for an answer to a Q though)

SE Tracks (01/04)
SE01 - Sleepy Emp (WAV provided)


All other tracks are still in [POST] status (better, but still not "good").


Lost... (no master files available anymore due to corrupt files):
Track 10 - PLBenjaminZ (Denadoro Climb)
SE02 - SirRus (In Search of the Light)
SE02 - PLBenjaminZ (Determined)

Still not sure (to get the master files):
Track 12 - mv
Track 21 - Russel Cox



WAS CONTACTED RECENTLY BY:
SirRus (he just contacted me as I'm updating this list)
mv (still has issues to rescue his files, also he has a comission going on)
The ZAS (waiting on a new [POST] file, said to me via PM that he's working on it)
Unknown (tries to do what he can, due to the hurricane heading his way he didn't promise anything)


STILL WAITING FOR LIVESIGNS:
ellywu2 (still waiting on new [POST] files, emailed him twice, PMed him at VGmix - no answer!)
Russel Cox (still seems to be vanished from planet earth)


Still I'm really pissed off due to the fact that there were several deadlines the mixers had to meet for WIPs, finished files, postproduction files and still they didn't do anything. I'm especially pissed off by those who have more than 1 track in the project, don't do anything and slow everything down. And then I get lame excuses in the end or wait the whole night (till 7am GMT+1, sometimes till it's midnight on the US wastcoast) and still get no response.


Regarding the Deadline:
Claado will have some words on that issue.


Now if you'll excuse me, I try to get in touch with the remaining "missing sheeps" and go back to judging tracks.

[TrueLugia121]

i'm just only looking to know one thing and you goof off about it?

[Compyfox]

You asked a question, I answered it, you still asked "why he's not ready" and I answered again what's up (also for all others who're interested).

There's nothing more to discuss, no need to post any further and ask "why" "how" or "but!".

[TrueLugia121]

blokes these days

[Rexy]

Lugia, shut up. Compyfox is doing an important part to the project, and impatient people like you aren't making things any better. If you want to start shouting out loud, please wait until around the end of the month.

In other words, still no lifesigns from Ellywu :( Wonder what in heck's happened to him...

[Bongo Bill]

Could I be towards the back of the mirrors? I'm concerned about my bandwidth. ^_~

I am going to, by request of CS, write some code for the site, so that there is only one download link for every song, but this link randomly selects one of the existing mirrors. This way one mirror won't be flooded with downloads, hopefully.

I'm not sure if that's a good idea, since my account will be suspended for the rest of the month if I exceed my bandwidth. If you could make a script that determines if the server is still up and/or offering the files, that would be ideal.

[Final_metroid]

its the 21st today...better hurry

[RoeTaKa]

If you want to start shouting out loud, please wait until around the end of the month.

I'm confused whether that meant the release of Chrono Symphonic or something to do with periods.

[Compyfox]

And even if we don't release at the given date, so what? Does the world end because of that? I'd prefer a full fledged and very good sounding project in the end by myself, and not a rushed job.

Hell Sonic celebrated his 10th anniversary a whole year long!

[Rexy]

If you want to start shouting out loud, please wait until around the end of the month.

I'm confused whether that meant the release of Chrono Symphonic or something to do with periods.
Nah, that's that time of the month :)

[Claado Shou]

Yeah, Compyfox pretty much said it all. We're probably going to delay the release at least a few days, maybe longer.

I know I was saying quite heartily that we wouldn't delay last week, but Saturday night I had an experience that can only be described, aside from as a "car accident", as divine intervention. So I'm very much willing to delay the project past the planned date in order to make sure that what everybody gets is the absolute best product.

Compyfox is still working as fast and as hard as he can, and you'll all be kept very informed on the situation, despite how haphazard everything seems. Believe me, the final product WILL BE WORTH IT. So just hold your horses.

And it was my bad that the front page had RoeTaKa's song listed as 0% completed, so I understand the confusion. But the music is entirely done.

~.C.S.~

[KyleJCrb]

And even if we don't release at the given date, so what? Does the world end because of that? I'd prefer a full fledged and very good sounding project in the end by myself, and not a rushed job.

I agree. The final release date really doesn't mean that much to me; an awesome project does. ;)

[FM]

Sorry I've been so slow Compy, I didn't expect to have to do another revision, and so I'm caught behind again. I'll try to have it done tomorrow.

[Wiesty]

Only in Canada...

Anyway, I'd like to change one small thing about the audition guidelines...the pendulum sound in the beginning is not necessary. Rellik has made a point of the fact that it's really hard to find a good pendulum effect, and it's also kind of counterproductive to force something like that on every piece, when many of these will be standalone and not used in the movie soundtrack anywhere. So...that is not necessary. Do it if you like, but not because I'm forcing you to. :)

i just read that now. Im canadian! and im a huge fan.
geeezh

[TrueLugia121]

why are you still goofing off over something that simple?
it's only a question geez

[KyleJCrb]

why are you still goofing off over something that simple?
it's only a question geez

Ummm...What?

[Rexy]

Trust me on this. Compyfox is an audio engineer, so of course his job is to make sure the songs are given strong production qualities all around.

I study music technology, and with the equipment floating around in the main recording studios people obviously spend a long time mastering everything so that it sounds perfect to the ear.

So no, final productions are NOT SIMPLE. They for me determine the one careful thing between a lackluster production all around, or one of the most powerful productions you'd hear on the site.

Now please, leave him to his thing, and leave the thread alone. Your time to shout will be on the project's release date, so please wait patiently.

Or else... haha.

[RoeTaKa]

Lol, so defensive there Rexy. TrueLugia, I haven't actually done a thing, it's all lies!! Heh nah I'm done. I reckon the project'll be done in a week or a tad longer, then we can all imagine a big story to an orchestral album and touch ourselves in ways we wouldn't dare to before. How exciting is that?! Maybe...maybe I've thought about this a lil' too much.

[Compyfox]

Haha, you're so right, Roe.

BTW: Your new animated sig made my day. XD *just great*

[sephfire]

Does anyone know where ellywu2 lives? If he's anywhere near one of these hurricanes or some other "hotspot," he could be having the same troubles as Unknown. I hope he's ok ...

And I'm sure we'll get a hold of Russell Cox sooner or later. From what I've heard, he's an extremely busy guy.

[StarZander]

Could I be towards the back of the mirrors? I'm concerned about my bandwidth. ^_~

I am going to, by request of CS, write some code for the site, so that there is only one download link for every song, but this link randomly selects one of the existing mirrors. This way one mirror won't be flooded with downloads, hopefully.

I'm not sure if that's a good idea, since my account will be suspended for the rest of the month if I exceed my bandwidth. If you could make a script that determines if the server is still up and/or offering the files, that would be ideal.

Well, I don't think the script will recognize that, but if it's down then the download simply won't work, and they can just click the link again, to get to another server.

[Compyfox]

Why not doing it like the doom project. The server with the highest rates on the first links, the ones with the lower at the last position. And there's also still the torrent.


Sephire:
Rexy and I are on that problem. If we trust his VGMix account, he's a resident in the UK. Still he didn't answer our mail, nor did he answer our PMs. If someone knows ellywu in person or knows where to contact him "best", feel free to tell us

And with Cox... I guess that's a useless try as we don't have other contact informations than those on OCR or VGMix.

[Zeality]

Wait, I just call that toll free number to record something for VGDJ?

[Jillian Aversa]

Wait, I just call that toll free number to record something for VGDJ?

Yeah, you could do that. But keep in mind that there is a 1 min 30 sec time limit for the 1-800 number.

Also, have you talked to Claado since yesterday? Rayza decided to postpone the interview until closer to the project release. So I think the plan is that Claado's gonna provide a short clip for this show, just to give people the heads up, and we'll play that. But all the real content (including the Chrono Compendium stuff) will come later.

Still, if he isn't mentioning the Compendium in his clip and you wish to do so, be our guest! Just make sure it's brief for this episode.

[Zeality]

Oh, alright. Well, it depends on what you have planned. I've been rolling around a 30 second spot or something (no, not as fast as the Micro Machines guy), but I guess I'll hang back and see what's on schedule. Mainly, I'm just going to bring to attention the Chrono Symphonic Extravaganza, and maybe tell people to look forward later this year to news on the Chrono Trigger Coliseum or something. In terms of big events for Chrono fans, Symphonic will be it. Cross is 5 years old, Trigger is 10, and the Compendium's covered mostly everything else. The Chrono community is about to enter a serious drought.

[Jillian Aversa]

Oh, alright. Well, it depends on what you have planned. I've been rolling around a 30 second spot or something (no, not as fast as the Micro Machines guy), but I guess I'll hang back and see what's on schedule. Mainly, I'm just going to bring to attention the Chrono Symphonic Extravaganza, and maybe tell people to look forward later this year to news on the Chrono Trigger Coliseum or something. In terms of big events for Chrono fans, Symphonic will be it. Cross is 5 years old, Trigger is 10, and the Compendium's covered mostly everything else. The Chrono community is about to enter a serious drought.

Alrighty, well, we just finished recording episode 019. So I guess it'd make sense to wait until the episode with Claado's interview and everything. ^_~

[RoeTaKa]

Can I get a heeeeell yeah?

[StarZander]

Looks like my site design is going to get inhuman amounts of publicity from all this. This is awesome news for myself. I will probably keep making free websites for OCR projects, if they are wanted.

But despite my publicity glee, I'm even more excited about the project itself. This is going to be something to remember, people. ¨

I know I will.

[Liontamer]

Looks like my site design is going to get inhuman amounts of publicity from all this. This is awesome news for myself. I will probably keep making free websites for OCR projects, if they are wanted.
You may wanna advertise your site in your sig, or at least your profile, Anders.

[StarZander]

Looks like my site design is going to get inhuman amounts of publicity from all this. This is awesome news for myself. I will probably keep making free websites for OCR projects, if they are wanted.
You may wanna advertise your site in your sig, or at least your profile, Anders.

Yes, I know, I really should. I have a sig for it... might change soon. And... you called me Anders? That's odd. Didn't know that people knew my first name.

[KyleJCrb]

That's odd. Didn't know that people knew my first name.

If there's one thing Larry knows, it's everyones first name. He may not know how to properly pronounce everyones first name, but he sure as heck knows them. :P

[Zeality]

HELL YEAH!

By the way,

Who usually submits site projects to Slashdot?

I'm asking because I've been authorized to collaborate with Josh of SquareAMP (who's had successful submissions) to submit it, but I don't want someone who normally does it for all site projects to submit it to and wind up with two submissions. Lot of redundant words in that last sentence.

This will be the last big Chrono event for a long time, now that the birthdays are passed and no official word is coming. The community will enter a big druoght after this, so let's make it good.

[Compyfox]

Well I said it before, Sonic had a 10th anniversary and it lasted one damn year long. Why shouldn't we do it too? ;)

[JimSelve]

You should take the time you need to make this project sound really good.

Everyone knows these games, that have to be completed by the date of a movie premiere. Well, usually these games suck. And I don't want this project to suck. :wink:

[RoeTaKa]

Exactamondo, its for the people. It's like celebrating your birthday a few days before or after it actually happens cause its more conveniant to get drunk or whatever, right? So, lets all gut drunk when its right. Good simily? Too bloody right.

[StarZander]

I thought I'd update you people on the current statistics on the amount of people who've visited the Chrono Symphonic website.

Up until September, we had about 30 unique visitors every day (30 different people, not just regular hits), but on september 3rd, it spiked at 99 unique visitors, and since then the average has been about 70 unique visitors every day.

When the full project is released, this will probably increase like crazy, but I just thought you should know how everyones interest in this projects is.


Btw, we're had over 8000 hits now.

[Claado Shou]

Yup yup yup, lotsa hits. Good stuff.

BTW,

http://chrono.ocremix.org

is now active, so earmark the sub-domain for the project's release. DO IT.

~.C.S.~

[Compyfox]

A small update for the time being.

While I'm still (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=66539) looking (http://www.vgmix.com/topic_view.php?topic_id=10469) for ellywu (help!!!) - and Russel Cox, though it's not that important here - I'll give you a small update on the status.


Along with sephire, I'm taking over the in-depth mixing/postproduction of SirRus' tracks "Morning Sunlight" (in sephire's hands), "Manifest Destiny" and "Search of the Light" now. Might take me a bit till I'm used to Reason in Rewire mode again, but I guess I have the stuff done in the next days. Also I'll do the in-depth mixing of Reuben Kee's and Pixietricks' track "To far away Times".


Then again I still need a handful of files. Namely from ZAS (FM) who still didn't respond to my PMs, mv is trying to do what he can, then it's good to see Unknown (Tyler Heath) back in bussiness (hurricane strike wasn't as bad as expected in his area), ellywu of course *grrrr!* and also sephire though that's okay cause he just got the files on sunday.

The project is not dead yet and you still have kind of a "duty" to do. So please keep that in mind.

Anyway... I'm back to mixing. I'll keep you updated on the status from time to time. But as Claado already said in the short VGDJ EP#019 (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=58435&start=1050) hookup, expect a mid October release.

Better late than never. ;)

[Rexy]

FM is better known as Standing Man at VGMix. He might even be there :)

[Liontamer]

I thought I'd update you people on the current statistics on the amount of people who've visited the Chrono Symphonic website.

Up until September, we had about 30 unique visitors every day (30 different people, not just regular hits), but on september 3rd, it spiked at 99 unique visitors
Wikipedia entry, baby.

[StarZander]

I thought I'd update you people on the current statistics on the amount of people who've visited the Chrono Symphonic website.

Up until September, we had about 30 unique visitors every day (30 different people, not just regular hits), but on september 3rd, it spiked at 99 unique visitors
Wikipedia entry, baby.

Holy monkeypoo! I didn't know I was on there. That's cool. I'm being whispered in the wind. To some extent.

[Red Omen]

Aww. I've been plugging this all day, and I come here to find the links aren't up. :( It's a shame we have to release late.

Good luck, Compyfox.

[Compyfox]

Don't blame me, I'm still (http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=66539) trying (http://www.vgmix.com/topic_view.php?topic_id=10469) to track down ellywu, but not even the "community" is helpful in that case. *GRRRRR!*


Good news on the other hand:
mv just sent me his fie, just have to check it if it's okay, but I guess it is cause he had luck that he could even restart the file. Same with ZAS, after a long delay I finally have his files. Sephire also contacted me this night with a new [POST] file from one of SirRus' tracks. So I'll get to that ASAP - private errants are also important.

I'm also still in the middle of mixing SirRus' and Reuben's track. Reconstructing the stuff isn't easy and takes time - especially because I'm not used to Reason anymore and he used samples that're not in Reason. I'll keep you updated.


So left is only:
- Unknown (I know that he was on VGMix yesterday - I understand the problems with the aftereffects of "Katrina", but I can't wait forever!)

- ellywu (same issue - that... <insert random coursing and swearing here>)


Later

[Jillian Aversa]

Don't blame me, I'm still trying to track down ellywu, but not even the "community" is helpful in that case. *GRRRRR!*
Don't blame the "community," either. (And yes, it *is* a community...) Nobody knows where ellywu is. End of story.

[Compyfox]

...

Very strange that ellywu doesn't have any friends or a fanbase... but that is just... my imagination.

[k u n g f u c h i c k e n]

He has been MIA for months man. I had to remove him from the Sonic 3 project cause of it. He made no contact to anyone. I hope he is alright.

[Compyfox]

Months is not true... one month ago it was the last time he postet at OCR, 14th September was the last time he was at VGMix. He could have at least answered our friggin' mails!


And the problem is... I can't kick him from the project either. So all comes together... used up 3 tracks in the project (3 essential ones at that too), vanishes and even ignores eMails.

End of story? Hell no!

[Boz]

Was it not supposed to open today? Or is it still problems with mirrors?

[Vilecat]

Boz, read the last 5 posts of this thread, and you'll have your answer.

[Boz]

Um forget the questions...
*slam myself on the head*

I checked what other people wrote now and I understand the issues, i think.

Too bad it still isn't open though..

[Hanpusu-kun]

HOw big is all the files together?
I may be able to mirror them, or at least some of them.

[Claado Shou]

In MP3 form, 116 MB for all 29 tracks. Of course, that's at different bitrates and all...I don't know what it would be at a constant higher bitrate, honestly. My guess is anywhere from 120-150 MB.

~.C.S.~

[Aurora Firestorm]

Will you post the lyrics to songs that have vocals, along with the files? I found the completed version of "To Faraway Times" on VGMix and was curious of the lyrics, and then thought that there may be more songs in the project that have lyrics.

[Rexy]

I think that's the only one with lyrics in it. If you want to know the vox, it's best you asked Claado on that one since he wrote them out.

[Compyfox]

Eon and I are working on that including the lyrics in a booklet or something. If not, I'll add a TXT in the packs.

BTW:
"Schala and the Queen" and "To Far away Times" have lyrics. Actually two tracks. ;)

[Rexy]

eh? I kept on assuming Schala and the Queen had just chants (a la "Aria of the Damned"). But I take your word for it :)

[Compyfox]

well I have the clean vocals from Pixietricks, I'm just missing the stuff from... uhm... ellywu! *ARG!!!!* XD

[sephfire]

This is only curiosity, but what happens if ellywu2 never resurfaces?

It's possible that somebody could attempt to reproduce his work (general arrangement, etc.). That way, his tracks would become a sort of collaboration between him and the reproducer, and we'd still be able to credit the tracks to him in some way. He DID contribute a lot of time and effort to this project, and if his tracks need to be handed over to someone else, it would be a shame to see all of his work go to waste ...

Hopefully he'll pop in very soon and eliminate any need to consider alternative solutions to the problem.